Destiny 2 Lore - The Identity of the Exo Stranger... It's time to explain... (Also Worldline Zero)
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- Опубліковано 11 жов 2024
- Destiny's greatest mysteries include the identity of the Exo Stranger. Today I finally have time to explain her identity and her story as we know it. Her name is Elsie Bray...
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How crazy would it be if because of time travel WE’RE the ones she was talking to when we first met her? “Hold position, Kill the engines and DON’T let them find you”
If I heard that in a mission over comms while we were fighting the new Pyramid alien race I’d freak out.
Maximizing 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 hmmm that is a great possibility
Maximizing Can't be us, D2 guardians can't speak.
Byron Reed jr But our ghosts can.
Byron Reed jr Ha ha bet... they can now in Forsaken.
BRING CAYDE BACK WITH TIME TRAVEL
Ahhh, when our Guardians still remembered how to make audible sounds with their throat.
Brother Graythorn Lol I sometimes think my guardian is me because I can be so quiet that people forget about me. 😂 Although I do take advantage of my silence, makes it easier to disappear.
Brother Graythorn at least we chuckled in this expansion.... I think😂
Fair enough, Nightstalker Hunter master race.
It's funny how Destiny had budget for a voice actor but Destiny 2 (Having profit from d1) "just couldn't afford it"
Maybe voice acting is something we can get in an Eververse Engram.
“we’ve gathered some of the greatest guardians…Cayde-6…”
FeelsBadMan RIP
Lol my first thought hearing that “ouch. RIP the homie”
🥺😭
“But one file could not be deleted, and I believe this file to be ‘NEW DOVE +CARE FOAMING BODY WASH!’” Damn it dove, I was really into this lore!!! Lmao
50 Cent For real! 😂 I was like “ah yes, the New Dove Care- hey wait a sec.”
It's always the fucking dove commercial!
50 Cent SAME THING HAPPENED TO ME LMAOOO
That would be the best/worst advertisement evert.
Dove Care Foaming Body Wash is actually the villain of the next villain.
Just a heads up, there's a code on that physical Valkyrie spear. Community's working on analyzing it at the moment, so keep an eye on it
Where is this being done?
Looks like Fence-Rail code to me.
Where’s a good place keeping track of this codebreaking so when it’s finally broken I know where to look?
@Sam Brauer
But what's the key?
Chris Stuart on www.reddit.com/r/raidsecrets
Biggest reveal in D2 honestly. Just loving the tidbits of lore here and there.
Gaston Morales Biggest reveal of Destiny period. We have yet to see anything much at all revealed within the game, either thefirst or second, and that's kinda the problem.
Byf here is actually the reason I stopped playing the game. There's a wealth of lore with which Bungie could form amazing narratives with, IN GAME, yet they haven't. And likely won't. I get what I want from Destiny from Byf, while playing the game just makes me resent the devs more and more.
Proof that chodes like you have existed since time started.
The only reason I still play Destiny is because of its really interesting lore and a really supportive community. Sure the story night be bland at times and sometimes you might find a toxic guardian or two... But the friendships we have forged and the fun we've all had together as a rag-tag fireteam are precious beyond compare.
TaurusJinx 96 Couldn’t have said it better
As my friend just randomly texting in a group chat “it’s inspiring”
TaurusJinx 96 indeed my fellow Guardian. Once a Guardian, always a Guardian.
I still keep up with the lore. I just can't bring myself to get back into the game after the mediocre updates and replay value. The lore as it stands and declining community are not enough to hold a candle to what Halo was before that got fucked up by greed too, haha. Bungie and Activision need to apologize to the artists above all. Destiny is a golden turd that continues to be polished, though the developers seem too scared to mold it into the proud statue it should be.
I see none of these in Destiny, really interesting lore videos on the internet but beyond that? Not so much.
The Space Triangles are coming.
DragonaxFilms dun dun duuun
brandon munson beat me to it 😂
You mean the Tetrahedron ships, right? They are not triangles
If the that cutscene you mean is in chronological order (which it has been so far), those ships only arrive after 1 or 2 other DLC. And thus probably in D3
nersoparanaense
You must be fun at parties
Byf, I could just hear it in your voice. This franchise is finally starting to excite with its lore again. I only wish they had tied this into the story/gameplay in some deeper manner, like perhaps a story mission that has us attempting to decode the message. Regardless, this made me very happy. I've been waiting on your video about this since I first heard last night.
They could have made it a series of missions after the main story (which I personally think they should have added Lord Saladin in to make it a dynamic between Ana, Zavala and him so that they each could have their own opinions) but then again going through all this work does make the answer just a tad more satisfying.
parker maisterra yea, they definitely could've made it story missions, but I don't think that would've went well. I like the way that they did it-- I simply wished they had a quest where Ana was like "hey, maybe you could investigate these weird nodes all over?", instead of us just having to discover them ourself.
parker maisterra considering how confusing the cutscenes of warmind were lore-wise, I think story missions would have done a much worse job of telling the story.
I've never noticed it before, but the Exo Stanger has Saint-14's crest on her cloak. Linking back to one of your previous videos, Saint-14 knew about us, the savior of the City and a prodigy child of the Light, and that we give him his shotgun the Perfect Paradox. So, in our future we'll either go back in time or, more likely, imo, he'll be brought to us, and to do so, we'll need to time travel. The only person we know who can do that is the Stranger, and we might meet her in her past, before she met us for the first time, in order to do so.
epicponedge 117 maybe that’s the next hero we bring back. We’ve got Osiris and Ana, but we need a Titan
Maybe, but I don't think it'll work that way, as we need a Titan from this Time Zone and not from the past. Even so, if we were to meet Saint-14, it would be in the next small expansion and not The Taken Queen
YES YES YES and if you remember one of the grimoire cards from D1, the queen states that there are some guardians she admires, and the card is called saints____. It refer's to saint-14, but as far as i can tell the queen would not have known him. There's something massive here. I'm thinking that the exo stranger gave us challenges that not only got us on the right path, but helped her past self get to the point she is currently in, which gives us the orders that help her past self yadayadayada. PERFECT PARADOX
Given Saint-14 is also an Exo, do you think there are deeper connections between the two of them? Perhaps, they were lovers before the Exo transformation?
My bet is that if being an Exo doesn't just be outright needed for time travel, it might make it easier.
All this does is remind me that our Guardian use to talk but now just stares dumbly, like a bag of rocks. Still, great video Byf! Glad to hear you get excited about D2 lore.
H240909 lorewise we do talk it’s just that our ghost does it for us. Gameplay wise I don’t like it
Planet Kuruto either way, watching those cutscenes where our Guardian stares blankly at someone as they talk is painful.
H240909 yeah
The after effects of having so many NPC's interacting with our Guardian and Bungies choice to give our character one of four or six different voices depending on what gender and species we chose. Much easier, quicker and cheaper to have the ghost do all the talking than having multiple VA's in the studio to record the same lines.
Which is a shame, I've never been a fan of it, I know I've sworn at the screen multiple times when y character just stands there like a muppet.
hmoham don’t think anyone would complain if they just had one female actor and one male one
Fun fact: the voice actor for the exo stranger is Maggie in The Walking Dead, and Ana’s voice actor is Sabine Wren in Star Wars Rebels.
I only know this since I watch both shows
Yo that’s hype! I love rebels, and Sabine was one of my favorites idk how I didn’t recognize her voice
Yo that’s hype! I love rebels, and Sabine was one of my favorites idk how I didn’t recognize her voice
Yo that’s hype! I love rebels, and Sabine was one of my favorites idk how I didn’t recognize her voice
Yo that’s hype! I love rebels, and Sabine was one of my favorites idk how I didn’t recognize her voice
TripleC Gaming Channel I can tell, you wrote the same comment 6 times. Lol, UA-cam is messing up again
Is it finally explained why she didn’t have time to explain why she didn’t have time to explain?
TK Mason it would take too much time to explain why there was no time to explain about the lack of time to explain...
Nathan-DTS and we did?
Actually yeah, they kinda did. She had to follow her timeline simulations to a tee, which apparently includes dumb one liners.
Well if she and her followers were trying to hide the weapon/tech from others who wanted it for nefarious use, she likely couldn't run on the grid for very long without getting detected by the Vex or her pursuers.
Pretty much, yes, in this video. Every time she traveled to the past she more or less only had a few minutes before she had to return again.
I hope that in a cutscene later down the line we have a scene where we are having a conversation with the Stranger about having to go back in time and talk to us back in Destiny 1 and we are the person that we didn’t know she was talking to. THAT would be beautiful
Rogue Virgo that’ll be kinda cool
Rogue Virgo that would be a legit epic twist.
I’d have the biggest nerdgasm
If you think about it, that makes perfect sense. We already participated in one "Perfect Paradox".....
I don't get why people on UA-cam are always like "I don't wanna put you asleep with a long video" like dude, I'm here for extra stuff. Lay it on thicc and give us all the details. I'll watch a 90 min video on Destiny Time travel. LET'S GOOOOOOO.
Catchable Orphan 👆🏻🔥
Yes
It's so cool they had the life size valkryie for whoever figured out the puzzle
“It’s time to explain.” -10/10 IGN
Who’s here after the Beyond Light trailer for a refresh lmao
Adam Aseret 🙋🏻♂️🙋🏻♂️🙋🏻♂️
Fr tho
I've been facinated by the exo stranger from the moment I met her in D1 and I've speculated with my friend over who she was or could be so to finally see this question being solved but with such an amazing puzzle. And even though we have been waiting all this time it still feels satisfying to finally know the answer to this.
I do hope to see here more often maybe we even might see one day where Ana and Elsie become reunited again even though they have both become two different personalilities. I guess we can't do anything but wait to see where this story goes
Byf really should be either the speaker or ghost
byfbot !!!
Fault hahaha
Kenny Jenkins I would choose ghost just think one of the things he can say is "Oh no Ana lets hear what the Guardian says" ..."he has been here the entire time."
Patrick Empson hahaha hilarious. That would be true .......
Speaker
I want Byf to be a ghost. We now know that ghost have different voices (a thing that bothered me in D1 a lot). Maybe the speakers ghost, that could have been left behind when he was taken?
Valeon the speaker didn't have a ghost
Eric Morgan he had a ghost, a dead one now probably.
I love the way they're handled this little piece of lore (subminds aside) it's solid and entertaining. One thing that I specially like about this piece of lore is the fact that the Ishtar Collective and Clovis Bray were not really in good terms when it came to sharing info. That feels real, it makes te whole concept credible.
*Why is this not explained in the game?! it's so good!*
DarkHero - Monster Hunter Content umm every piece of data is in game? You just have to put them together
Greed is probably the only answer to that. Destiny is under a finite contract with Activision and there is little reason for Bungie to pour their entire heart and soul into it. Keep in mind it is part of their policy to have "No crunch time"
DarkHero - Monster Hunter Content Lol did you see what they did with Osiris, Brother Vance, Nokris, Ana Bray, and Xol? If it was it the game today, Bungie would’ve completely ruined it.
Because there is no time to explain xD
DarkHero - Monster Hunter Content where do you think byf gets all this info from -_-
I wonder if we will get non guardian allies. Calus, some fallen (perhaps via the prince), heck maybe even vex since we had that friendly harpy show us around?
Or some of the hive? We know Nokris was exiled, and also that some creatures of the hive struggle against the will of Oryx. Alak Hul the dark blade is one such creature
I have wanted an alliance with the fallen for so... ****ING... LONG
They are just another civilization that the Traveler helped, they just weren't the lucky ones who got guardians. And if all this could start with the first ghost who chooses a dead fallen... I think that could be something.
About the prince...
The psions of the Cabal empire are an enslaved race, would love to see them rebel as allies, or overthrow the Cabal. Byf mentions that psions are incredibly powerful people.
Stranger: "I'm wasn't talking to YOU, Little Light."
Ghost: "I'm a GHOST, actually."
I miss Peter Dinklage SO much. Nolan North is great voice actor but this franchise started with Tyrion Lannister as our adorably tiny, hovering conscience and guide.
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I found this channel while looking for Destiny content, and since been drawn into the deep destiny lore. This is by far one of my most favorite channels and it has made me a lore junkie. Thank you for putting this content out.
Woah when our goddamn character talked a little and didn't just stand there like a useless husk. .--.
What about shaxx as one of the great guardians?!? He sexually identifies as a mega phone!!
J. Rucker (shaxxs voice)THIS IS AMAZING
THEY CANT KILL YOU IF THEIR DEAD HAHAHAHA
shaxx after a massive killstreak "YEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS" 😂 gets me every time. I also love the snarky little remarks you get for your specific class when you do really well, like "who says warlocks are only good with books"
He also keeps his helmet on, if you know what I mean.
I tell everyone you're my favourite Guardian. Who cares? You fight like an animal!
Remember when they were going to do away with the darkness and the exo stranger?
Or at least rumors of it.
It's called throwing people off the scent.
Mike B. That may have been.
Could also just be poor writing and project management on their part. A lot of it seems like ass-pulls. I hope that's not the case.
Kyle Myers no they never said that just just said in vanilla d2 “darkness” wouldn’t be mentioned because why should it for gaul and the red legion?
Jamal Spoon And with that, and misconceptions of sorts, rumors start.
Just finished the Goodbye Mara video & came to rewatch the Exo stuff. I love all this stuff man. I recently bought the grimoire book & currently am reading it. Thanks for all the hard work Bud, we all appreciate it.
No no, pls do a 90 minutes video discussion on time travel, I would be very interested in listening to it and giving my ideas/ opinion on it.
To this point the ending cinematic with the awakening of the traveler visited in the right order all locations of the story and dlc, so the next dlc should be on the rife and then empty, maybe meaning a year without dlc or a new game being a nebula that is from where everything is created including planets and stars, meaning a new beginning and then the mysterious ships, probably the war we have been preparing for, we gathered allies, guardians, factions but we also have another ally, the story of the leviathan, the new gear says that we have become klaus shadows, and that maybe his league of allies being fallen ecc, as explained in the previous raid gear lore will be used from us to help defeating the darkness.
Fallen with the help of the river and the league of calus, the Kabul, now that we have defeated in the new raid the fleet and second commander of the red legion, calus will reclaim the throne and we will have the help of the cabal and the leviathan itself, the guardians as you told, and Rasputin. All of this will have to help us, in the coming war against those ships, the vex and the hive, all servants of the darkness, it will be ying vs yang, good vs evil, a war that will bring devastation like never before but that in my opinion will not end definitely, the battle will cease and a period of peace will rise but be sure that it’s a war that never ends because there can be no light without darkness and there can be no darkness without light.
Man, I just found you, and I gotta say, instant favourite. I didn't even know there was a whole lore community for Destiny. Subbed.
Also your voice, man, that's not human.
As for the future of what will happen in the destiny universe and its war.
I believe that we will be facing the darkness.
The moment we defeat Ghaul and the light is released. A beam of light spreads throughout the solar system and beyond. In the clip you see the light that passes Mars as showed in the last cutscene. Which means the planet of the past expansion. Afterwards comes the reef. Which could be a direct reference to the next dlc. We have also seen a reference to the ship of the queens brother inside warmind, which could indicate that we would allie with the awoken next. Allied with all out forces then face the darkness in an ultimate battle between light, and darkness.
Cynx basically a reskin D1 Plot lmfao
If u stand next to Ana bray, she'll occasionally reference that a bunch of strange signals are being detected by Rasputin... from the reef
The Guardian Wolf It could just be a continuation of the "Uldren becomes the Kell of Kells" lore plot.
I believe that when the big war comes it will be the Vanguard, the City, the Reef, Rasputin and the Elisksni of the House of Dusk all fighting together to hold back the coming Darkness. It is even possible the Cabal could ally with us out of sheer necessity in the face of what is coming.
Everyone in this comment section Just called the entire forsaken plot
12:40
I’ve been saying this about Exos being able to use the Device since the beginning. Glad it was finally mentioned
21:09
Byf: Cayde 6
Me: *sobbing quietly*
Byf is a time traveler confirmed
Your lore videos make me love the Destiny universe that much more. Keep up the work Byf, it's very much appreciated
This is like 99% accurate 2 years later. Genius.
Finally some answers on the stranger. Would of been nice to get more of this in game but byf to the rescue once again. Thanks for all you do mate. And thanks everyone involved.
Anyone remember when our guardians weren’t mute?
google / you tube They spoke a few times. I remember one time was when the Exo Stranger first called your ghost little light when we where leaving after getting the coordinates to the next mission our guardian would jokingly call the ghost “little light” to which the ghost replied “don’t call me that”. These did get patched out when the dlc came but if you buy a disc destiny 1 and don’t do the day one updates and get to this point then you will hear your guardian talk.
@@basedjumper6167 Actually they didn't patch that out in D1, because I bought the Taken King edition for my PS4 and it still had the voicelines there. Also just to note the Guardian did speak in Forsaken and here recently in Shadowkeep. In Forsaken they spoke the only line I think that really needed to be said which pretty much boiled down to 'I am going to cap Uldren's ass'.
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"Uldren Sov is mine."
@@generalh1042 Deal was a pretty good line too
The amount of joy this brings me is truly incredible.
Top notch work Byf!
I just wanted to say that you’re vids have really been a true joy and pleasure to watch
Anyone else coming back to this after the newest trailers?
i give u that Byf. this was the best wy of telling the Elsi-Ana Bray story I have heard yet. all the other lore cannels didn’t really tell a story but bullelisted he facts. good work
my favorite part about this DLC is that it is the first account of a guardian looking into their past. I wonder what/who we were before our ghost found us.
zach efkeman Cayde has looked into his past as did another, cant remember her name, though I will say Anna has probably gone the most in depth into her past
Honestly byf, a 90, minute video would keep me awake for every second of it. Just to see what comes next.
Same
Seems like a good story if our whole quest in destiny is to find out where we came from and how to become one without the travelers light. Break the chains of the light and find freedom in our own quest for self discovery.
BYF as i was watching this video i was ranking up ana bray in the patrol space and she said "Don't be a stranger", prolly an easter egg or something but i htought it was pretty cool. And great video!
Is there any canon evidence that the Exo Stranger worked with Osiris? I believe she was meant to be his assistant in old Destiny concept, but I wonder if any of it still stands. The fact that Osiris is obsessed with the Infinite Forest and seeing all the possible alternate futures certainly ties into what she may have discovered in the Golden Age.
I can't help but think that the mystery people she speaks to in the first Destiny are going to be us, the players during the events of Destiny 3. They'll say once and for all what time travel in Destiny is all about.
plus the fact that Osiris called his ghost "Little Light" at the end of the DLC. I was like Stranger reference :)
@22:28 I speak for myself when I say I personally would not fall asleep. Bring on the 90 mins! i love hearing about the lore and how deep the rabbit hole goes. I sincerely appreciate your channel, Byf. You and the rest of the other lore masters on YT.
Dunno if you'll read this but just to give my small opinion: I wonder if that scannable in the hidden room at the Tower that Ghost says was deleted or redacted by a Bray was in fact Elsie's conversation with Willa from the Worldline Zero lore tab - what d'you you think? Also, in the Ghost Fragment Exo Stranger 2 "RECORD 167 - BRIDGE - 5.2" I believe that was when we first see her atop the hill when we first discover the Hive on the moon however I'm not entirely sure about the text before RECORD 167 - BRIDGE - 5.2 and I'm assuming the final text is when we finally have that conversation with her @0:18.. Finally, who do you think Elsie is referring to when she says "we" in "RECORD 142-BRIDGE-08.1" ??
YAAAAAAAARASPUTIN
I also thought it of note that we now have Elsie's time phasing spawn effect with our ghosts as another little nod to it. Great vid Byf!
i have a feeling Ana is not adopted but created by BrayTech and is a one off Exo more advance than any before of after.
Gallam ana isnt an exo at all shes human
zieg feld are you sure? I mean she is adopted. She has Cybernetic "implants" I think it's a possibility.
Gallam shes a human
Once again Byf i am left in awe. thank you for this chill inducing lore video as you do so well. destiny is starting to feel like destiny again and there is no doubt that you are integral part in keeping the lore community alive and always on the edge of its seat. thank you for all you do for the destiny community!
Byf can u make a video on the lore that's been taken out or changed so when me and my friends have a debate about lore we know our things
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What a wonderful and epic way to reveal the Stranger. Bungie and VV did an awesome job with this, I can’t wait to see where it goes next. Great video as always Byf :)
21:11 "Cayde-6" too soon. RIP
You rock Byf! You and the lore community are why I play this game.
I can’t wait for all this lore to culminate in a really easy story mission.
Knights of the Nine id be disappointed, but then again, the endgame sort of, is Bungie’s fall or redemption. They should not waste all that years of lore.
Thanks man you are the answer to destiny's great mysteries I appreciate you taking the time to dive into its Rich lore...as many of us do not have the time to thank you so much for putting these videos up for us it really captivates our imagination and really intensifies the enjoyment of this game....
I doubt you'll see this my name is byf but have you ever considered transferring your destiny lore into podcasts? I love your content but I don't have time (or the data) to watch your videos on the go. But I do listen to a ton of podcast. Just an idea :)
BlakrystalHaze 👆🏻🔥
I think that the person the Exo Stranger was talking to (in the Ishtar) is us in the future, possibly in the next DLC. When she says kill ships power and asks how many, I think she is referring to our ship and the triangle ships. We send her back in time to correct our course so that we are in the ship at that very moment.
Considering that they said there was no more story for the Stranger in regards to us, I find this unlikely.
I could have been first... but I was more interested in watching the video and hearing Byf speak
Kaito Nijihara lmao for real
Byf, I haven't watched any of your videos in quite a bloody long time, (D1 Y1, house of wolves to be exact) But due to the recent developement regarding the September update I wanted to get back up to date with my lore knowledge, specifically regarding Cayde. But I just couldn't stop, because every video you mentioned sth that I've heard of, but sorta forgotten about, in this case the name Mia Sundaresh... so I found this video, and it just blew my mind, I am hnestly fascinated rn, thank you so much.
Elon Musk is the real world Clovis Bray.
Louise Peake yup
So the ship is really the Elon Trespass
Um... but Elon is afraid of A.I.
No other lore master explained this mystery better than you Byf. Thanks man!
First!! And I knew they'd bring her up again!! Also I miss our guardians voice!!
Narukami Saika play fallout 4
Rip voice :'(
That Valkyrie replica being buried near VV studio was wild. I ignored all the Stranger reveal videos because I wanted to discover it for myself. Completed everything in Warmind. Still had no idea. So I gave in, watched this video and am blown away by the effort of Bungie and VV to put that clue in the game.
Heh. Perfect timing
im for real gonna cry when u make your last destiny lore vid cause your outro will have me crying tears of sadness and joy
Can anyone tell me who the sword if front of Ana bray belongs to ?
Every time I feel I'm done with Destiny something like this happens...and I'm drawn in all over again. I remember how fantastic the Destiny universe can actually be. Great work.
Secretly hoping for Destiny 3: Infinity War
Loving all these warmind videos Byf!
Is there a timeline where Elsi is the savoir of the human race, and our guardian is actually the Exo Stranger? Think about it...
With infinite timelines possible, yes, that could happen.
If it's Elsie Bray, then our guardian had to be a Bray. So I'm not sure that would happen.
90 minute Byf Video? Sign me up xD! Best way to learn something about this universe while calming my mind and make me sleepy.
Wouldn't mind a 90 minute video. xP
Byf, I don't know if you're familiar with the story Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead by Tom Stoppard, but I think you would find it very interesting, as it has themes centered on "destiny" and the roles we play throughout our life. It's like a side story of Shakespeare's Hamlet, but it is very existential and has a lot of parallels to the overall theme of Destiny (the video game). If you do check it out, pay attention to the Player character and his similarity to the exo stranger. It's really fascinating, just like all of your lore videos. You're a fantastic loremaster and storyteller; keep it up!
Can we just get all locations back from D1, especially now since they all seem to be tying back into all the lore again.
Zac Brinton i agree
That might upset some, seeing that we lost all our D1 stuff. I do miss the locations though :/
ive been leveling all my classes listening to these vids, lovin them man
Why did they have to name these two sisters after fkin characters from Frozen
Dogsruleu12 they were characters long before frozen lmfao
Also its not it Elsie not elsa
Uh, no. Not named after Frozen. Ana's full name is Anastasia... and she has a connection to Rasputin... Do you know nothing of world history? Maybe you only know Disney history.
Harperion 24 honestly some people can’t take a joke. I’ve been dedicated to this lore for the past 4.5 years, and put over 1000 hours into d1 as well as hundreds into d2. I know what I’m talking about
Dogsruleu12 let it go lol
2 years after you make this we finally see the Stranger again
Byf, there are a few topics of time travel that could be useful:
1) if Elsi predict the future with the vex device and (as you say) Rasputin, she is our Elsi, not from another timeline because the point of inflex in the time start in her present (presumably in our past) so we are a product of the timeline that Elsi start to make at the moment she became an Exo.
2) if the changes that Elsi did are spread trough time, we have a situation like Osiris in the infinite forest, because there may be more than 1 Elsi because of the fragmentation that she create with every change she make from a timeline before (even after) she first time travel. If she travel from point A to point C and then she travels to point B and in every single point she changes something, it’s very likely that we have 3 versions of Elsi. The one that part from the timeline A, other one in the timeline C (that, in theory doesn’t exist) and other one from timeline B.
3) it’s possible that at in one single point of the timeline there it’s more than one version of Elsi. If the Elsi of a point A in time goes to a point X in the timeline and other Elsi, that is in point J in time, goes to the same point X, there is going to be 2 versions of the same Elsi in one moment of the time.
Hi Byf! Have you thought of doing a lore episode on the crew of the ares one? I've seen that the 3 new armor sets from Tess each correspond to a member of the ares one crew. I think it would be really interesting personally. Just because that opening cinematic in D1 was just amazing when the Ares one initially found the traveler but we never really heard much about them until now (aside from 4 ghost fragments from Hardy's point of reference). By the way, love the channel and your videos.
Another fun fact: the Bray sisters both have weapons related to them, and used by them, with Legendary and Exotic forms that can be obtained by the Guardian.
I feel like Eon Trespass was meant to time travel, while the Shadow Trespass was from the future to travel the Darkness... Where our war will take us.
More story, Bungo. You're great when on point, you just need to be on point... far more often.
Nice vid Byf
Getting back into Destiny 2 and watching your videos to catch up with the lore.
This is what I love about Destiny. A 4 and a half year old question has been answer finally. Not because they didn’t want to but because the time wasn’t right. Love it
I think a really interesting part of your discussions of gathering future allies is the fact that the first two areas that the wave of light passes by are Mercury and Mars, which are of course the locations of the first 2 expansions in D2. Continuing this, it makes sense that the next place we will visit is the reef, where we might be able to see the continuation of the story of Uldren and the fallen, as well as the return of Mara Sov.
Since the day it came out, Polaris Lance has been my favorite weapon ever in the Destiny Universe. Not just for its amazing perks and how fun it is to use, but also for the story behind it.
Hi Byf! A (brief) take on the timeline subject. It's my two cents on this topic and I hope I'll be able to stay clear in my explanation. In my view, there is only one timeline in Destiny because it is the only way to justify the need of the Infinite Forest or the FWC Machine: to calculate and classify every events and their probable consequences in order to carefully select them and taylor the timeline toward the future you want (Be it the Vex or the Exo Stranger). It also goes well with one of the theories on time travel (proposed in Universal War One) saying that Present is the summation of all the time travels that took place and will take place. If they were multiple timeline why do we encounter only 3 types of Vex (past present and future) and not an infinite? Granted, they may not be able to cross from one timeline to antoher but if so I doubt the any other life form can, meaning the Exo Stranger IS the E.B. of our timeline. Also the theory on "We are inside the equivalent of the FWC Machine since the begining and the Exo Stranger is here to run simulations on simulations over and over" would be can of sad as it destroy any sense of stakes on the whole game.
In short, the Exo Stranger is from our timeline as there is only one, but mimics the Vex modus operandi for the purpose of preservation (and not simply for being eternal, out of time itself)
Thank you for reading!
This makes me so happy considering I was so interested in the stranger and only used the eon trespass as my ship in d1
You knwo when ana opens the door for rasputin and zavala appears. I was hoping when she met rasputin the other time i was hoping for cayde to show up and zavala was trying to cover it and the vanguard was all behind it. Thatll been a cool plot twist uh?
I literally cried at the end of the video. This is so awesome!
This, I heard yesterday and it was casually dropped, I lost it. However, I have more questions, a lot more questions,
Thank you! Keep up the amazing work
So crazy story I actually know a guy from Vicarious Visions personally! I’m from upstate NY and my girlfriend dog sits for one of their artist John Dobbie. I had no idea he worked there the first few times we sat for him and he had no idea I was a massive destiny fan. After telling him he went into his room and got me a Black Armory Destiny Dev Team shirt that’s now my favorite piece of merchandise. I also signed up another guy that worked there for a gym membership at my job in Albany so you never know who you’ll meet!
oh my, i got goose bumps watching this, as a d1 player from release this actually makes me so happy and wanna play this game more and more, we all know bungie is bungie, but i think good things could be coming
Saint 14! The perfect paradox! It could all be connected to this coming “war” and how he receives the weapon, how we meet him, and how time travel might work. I feel some very big pieces are starting to fall into place here.
This is amazing how they are weaving together all of the biggest questions we've had since d1.
what *I''d* love to discuss is what Elsie/Exo has to do with *our* guardian. In practice, her invitation to Venus lead us on a path to discover the whereabouts of the Black Garden which, in turn, lead us to The Reef - a trip that put us in debt of the Queen, it also lead us heal the traveller - discover the VoG and stop Atheon. The Queen later called upon us to repay our debts in HoW, leading to a City + Reef alliance, of sorts - an alliance that would prove pivotal by the time Oryx made his entrance into our solar system. It also connected us to Brother Vance which (arguably) led us to meet Osiris and stop Panoptes?
Her actions, very much, set us on a snowballing quest that grew in importance up until... what? What's her end goal - why is she pulling these strings? Did she "pull a Dr. Strange" viewing multiple timelines, finding the one where we "win"? Or, did she find none, but by forcing paracausality and, by bending the timelines with her presence - is she creating a NEW timeline... A better timeline in which we DO win?
Nice job man, you are my favorite destiny UA-camr. This video is awesome.