I TRIED using Radeon 7900XT GPU As a Creator... It LASTED a week!
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- Used the AMD Radeon 7900XT GPU as a creator, but switched back to NVIDIA, here's why!
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0:00 I gave up!
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All I got from this is "we encountered random black screens but never actually figured out the issue"
That's weird I've never experienced that, probably he's overclocking the gpu lol
I’m thinking bad temps.
I had exactly the same issues with a radeon GPU, switched back to Nvidia - not a single issue, now I'm back with AMD, problems are back... it's just a shitty little system
@@aquss33what gpu u use
I'm in the camp where I've had no issues with my AMD card, but I do hope AMD takes note of the driver issues some people have.
its when u alter display setting in ur card
@@trolldrumskerala firefox seems flawless so idk why is chrome preferred :/
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its when u have high hopes from AMD
They definitely should start working with creators more, so if thinks are fixable in this gen or else next gen.. in short, it's unacceptable for AMD to ignore this market segment, specially since in gaming they've practically reached where Nvidia's at.
Premier works best with Nvidia, DaVinci if you're using an Radeon, but definitely agree that dev and component manufacturers should work together to resolve issues
Don't hold your breath. Their game drivers are just as bad, the newest ones are crashing all over the place in gaming. AMD has literally never had consistently stable drivers nor has it had consistently performant drivers nor has it had consistently compatible drivers.
@@CyberneticArgumentCreator Nvidia hasn't had consistently stable drivers either, nor have they been consistently secure .
AMD is not even in the same ballpark as Nvidia, and never has been.
@@jakehutchenscap bro
You should see people's replies when I talk about similar experiences with radeon gpus over the years. People act like I've insulted their mother.
🤣🤣
fanboys smh
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Yep. Those are the cows amd milk to get away.
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Yeah as a 3d artsist, buying AMD is kinda sub par but as a gamer its great; i wish more reviewers did 3d/ video editor benchmarks with their cards
Should i get 4070 ti? Here 7900xt have same price as 4070ti but the vram..
I mainly use pc for working (render etc) but i want the best price to performace for gaming
@@novalovanGet a4000 or a6000.. If only for work!!
@@novalovanget 4080 lol. But yeah if you do renders there's no other choice but Nvidia.
Thank you SO much for creative oriented hardware test videos and sharing your experiences... These are very important for someone like me who always on budget.
It's really good to see UA-camrs actually using this hardware and trying to make it work. I imagine many have always stuck with Intel and Nvidia and don't know what it's like on the other side beyond benchmarks
But the dude gave up in 1 week.
@@f.miller801 1 weeks is a fair test, it gives it a real try, but constantly fighting when trying to get work done for more than 1 week is a real pain and will be too much for most.
Not sure, but it looks pretty obvious what's on the other side.. 🤔
I'm impressed it took him that long. The difference is HUMONGOUS. It's frustrating. I wish AMD would get their shite together.
He used the wrong graphics card AMD 2 types of card one for gaming and a work station card , He should of used a AMD Radeon Pro W7900 , I cant believe anyone whose processional would cheap out on equipment and get something that's not built for the job then complain and blame AMD for something that is his own fault giving AMD a bad name , it is clearly his fault for not having his business pony up and get proper GPU
And this is why Nvidia feels like they can charge whatever they want. Once you factor in time lost and frustration from random issues it becomes more than whatever the difference in pricing was.
Yep...
so accurate
Sadly true cause look at next gen RTX 50 prices.
It's the dumbest decision, they're trying to beat NVIDIA at their own game instead of eating a huge part of their marketshare. "YEAH LET'S FOCUS ON FSR INSTEAD OF TRYING TO BEAT CUDA!!"
erm have you not heard of the random black screens Nvidia cards get?
I have only one question: Do you guys used the Pro Drivers or the regular ones? 🤔
I too had a lot of problems while doing productivity using the regular Drivers. The moment I switched to the Pro once I had zero issues.
I know this video is a few months old, but were you using an AMD processor with smart access memory enabled? AMD made their chips to work good together. Still doesnt excuse the gpu causing ur pc to be laggy and crash, but I wonder if it would have made a difference.
I do UA-cam gaming videos, upgraded from a GTX1080 to the XFX 7900XT. Until the new driver that came out yesterday I didn't have any crashing issues, rolled back to the previous and now all is well again so I'm good on that front.
When it comes to editing in Premiere pro it seems like motion graphics (mogrts) don't get any hardware acceleration or something. They playback way slower than my 1080 in the timeline and seem to take longer to render for export too. Inconvenient but I could probably live with it.
But ultimately why I'm looking at switching to a 4080 now is the quality of game recordings using the hardware encoder. I have tried tweaking a bunch of settings but there often seem to be these weird artifacts in the recording around moving objects that I never noticed with my 1080 (which IIRC has a worse encoder than the 20X0 series onwards)
That slow mograt is because back then it was cuda accelerated no open cl optimization . And it sucks
have you tried installing pro drivers instead of adrenalin for stability issues? idk if there is one for 7000 series tho, just saying in case you didn't know you can do that for gaming cards like 6000 series or even older cards..
Dosent work. 5700xt. Pro drivers.
Editing is nightmare on heavy footage and workloads he mentioned.
pro drivers doesn't improve performance really, just for stability in games and software like random closes and restart he got, it may do a better job than game ready drivers.
in your case see if disabling ULPS (Ultra Low Power State) with msi afterburner do any help. it can cause slow downs and even black screen for some users.
Two things about PC going black. PSU, memory. A system freeze would typically leave an image on the monitor.
Having said that I'm skeptical about RDNA 3 right now. RDNA 2 is wonderful but it's not as good statistically in video editing. RDNA 3 does a bit to supposedly improve video editing or video capturing, etc.... But you still have the issue that different software is optimized for Nvidia GPUs. I think right now they could be causing some power spikes and because the 7900 XT is a power hungry GPU it is more likely to drop the system from time to time when it happens.
The other thing is you THINK the memory is stable, until you do something different and your system drops. Using a faster GPU could be causing a little instability in the system, especially when you are pointing to a 3950X as the CPU you're using. That's a very fast GPU paired with the FIRST really good Ryzen CPU AMD made, Zen 2 but it gets blasted by something 2 generations newer and even Zen 3 16c/32t uplifts are excellent.
Yeah just checked and you're using 3600 memory with a 16c/32t CPU and yes I realize you only swap out the GPU, but swapping out a GPU can mean making other components work more, or less. I don't have good luck with 3600 memory with any Zen CPUs, although the APUs work with faster memory. But, I know plenty of people run 3600 with no problem, If you're using 4 sticks of 3600 with Zen 2 you're really pushing the boundaries of what any Ryzen AM4 CPU will do. I didn't go back to watch your system build, don't want to, but that's an issue if you're doing that and I'd slow it down to 3200 CL14 with 4 sticks.
In other words, this might SEEM like a GPU problem. Whether it is or not would require more testing on your part by one, putting in a more powerful GPU and two switching out memory with 3200 CL14, because that GPU could be making your system work harder than you've pushed it before.
This
In games and very basic editing I have had zero issues with my 6800XT for the year I have had it. Alot of games and alot of hours no issues. That said, I can say I have lurked the professional production task conversations and nVidia definately still holds title as the card of choice for professional creators. In the past AMD adjusted pricing to be a better value for the 99% of us that do not need that feature set but now? This release? Not sure what their game is. If the 7900XT does not come down in price I will get a 4070ti when I see one on sale. AMD maybe is not all that concearned with this part of the GPU market but if they want to gain more marketshare they need to. I know they are kings when it comes to CPU marketshare and Consoles in the millions but GPU's are important too. I hope they decide to get more aggressive there but who knows if they will.
amd is so far behind with the 4090 its not even funny. in games and professional market
@@mexreax4493 professionally? Yes! In games, well if MW2 is your main game then you’re absolutely wrong! My 6800xt smacks that 4090’s ass!!! Ok ok I know it’s ONE game but love to shut up a nVidia fanboy! 😆
@@andyjoelharper3448 6800xt is nowhere near smacking a 4090 in warzone 2 or mw2
@@terraincognitagaming yes, I said that! What of it ? I know because I have a 4090 too. It is the only game that AMD surpasses in! 6800xt OC in 1080p! What you gonna my to do about it, punk!?
Thought so! Prove me wrong, @mupp33n!
It sounds like a power issue, how much does your power supply deliver?
I've had problems like that editing when I had an AMD GPU, the software crashed, sometimes I lost the footage, and other annoying stuff, then I got the GTX 1060 in 2018 and never had any problems after that. AMD is amazing for gaming but if you are a content creator or use a GPU for professional workloads then Nvidia is a bit ahead when it comes to performance but also far ahead when it comes to compatibility and stability.
2018 called: it wants its helpful anecdotes back.
I expect but can´t say the reason, but I used Hitfilm to edit video, and it crashed with AMD on a regular basis... tested different drivers, tips & tricks... but it continued. To be noted, all AMD users did NOT experience the same issues.
Without getting to root cause, there is no understanding to the problem, or how to resolve. Do other creators have the same problem? Data? Any investigation?
Love your vids. You are talking a lot about creator programs. I have built two PCs for Architects, that use Archicad, which apperantly uses mainly single core performance. My point is I would have loved to get more info about other programs like Archicad or even Photoshop or other commonly used programs. What do you have to focus on?
By the sound of it he concentrates almost purely on video editing using Premiere Pro.
Idk but did you use ProDrivers or consumer ones? I had the same problem. Immidiet shutdown and drivercrash but with prodrivers, not even a once.
I had the same problem before with my 5700XT. Would have black screen, sometimes crash and computer restarts. I opened AMD adrenaline software tried tweaking some settings but still the same. Until I saw that my programs added in the home screen treated as games (Like you can see them as the recent games you played in adrenalin software). I removed them from the list and after that I have no crashes anymore. Everything works fine now. I don't know what that happened but it worked for me.
You do realize this can be caused by your software not supporting AMD properly.
He's a content creator where time is money. Spending time figuring out what is causing it problems is costly. Money is better spent buying more costly hardware where software is supported, and spend the time actually 'content creating'.
Just because you understand software and comparability, doesn't mean it's everybody's cup of tea
If system is shutting down that is usually indicative of a power supply issue.
It could also be overheating, or defective ram
I think he uses the same PSU with the 3090 ti before
Yeah this amd gpu use much power when full load u r right
Yup immediately thought the same. Amd will use more power and that is a clear indication of psu/no break (if existent) problem
Did You try using amd pro drivers ? Seems to solve all stability problems You mentioned.
Does it have the same issues with Davinci Resolve?
Hmm, interesting - I wonder if applications like Premiere are calling specific GPU-targeted commands that are causing an issue with theirs? I've also seen recently that the most recent drivers (as of this writing) seem to be much improved over what came out at launch, so it would be interesting to see if problems like this have been resolved as well.
It’s possible. I was expecting similar issues to the ones in the video but didn’t have any when I tested the 7800 XT against the 4070. So they may have been fixed - or there could be project specific issues that Tech Notice catches that aren’t showing up in my use case. But so far my 7800 XT has replaced the 4070 for video editing because of how well it has performed - while the 4070 is still a much better card for Blender or standard upscaling with Topaz Labs Video AI (though the 7800 XT is often better at upscaling 4K footage 4X - not sure if that is VRAM related).
@@perlichtman1562 From what is being said in the video it sounds more like its the "bug" / "windows feature" that is not working properly. I've been dealing with this too in Windows where Windows update will install a really old AMD driver over your up-to-date driver which will destroy the performance & will also (in my case) give me blue screens and just unstable applications.
Adrenalin software will show that the driver is up-to-date but actually you're running an old out-of-date driver.
Any issues with their CPUs? considering trying Amd for the first time. I haven't heard of any issues apart from some weird usb disconnect bug a reviewer mentioned.
Did you update the AMD CPU Chipset Drivers?
I would like to see this looked at again. Its been 7 months and that's a lot of software updates.
So some of these issues might be fixed, So the GPU might be worth considering again.
I had the black screen issue with GTX 970 mostly with HDMI port. But not with display port. Linus also mentioned how he had impossible to diagnose crashes, but finally it came out to be as simple as cable port bad connection.
Yep. I've had this problem with two AMD cards. Using a different port fixed most of my crashing issues.. Also, AMDs "Recommended" drivers are usually a lot more stable than the "Optional" ones, when it comes to black screens and the like
Linus pinus
@@Ben-Rogue Apparently, stick to "Recommended" and whatever each software vendor calls "stable" or "long term release" unless you are fully prepared to be a beta tester.
Not sure if it was mentioned in the video but was the issue persisting with the Pro or Adrenalin drivers?
I have a genuine question about rendering in Premier Pro and you seem like the most knowledgeable person on UA-cam. I need to be able to export my just finished project and start working on my next project at the same time. I'm working on 2-5 projects a day. If I have multiple Nvidia cards in my PC, can I use one for the Adobe Media Encoder to handle the output and a second GPU for rendering in Premier Pro so I can keep working in my project and timeline? I have a 9900k and a 3070 Ti, and right now, when I start a new render in the Adobe Media Encoder, it runs in the background, but as soon as I start doing anything else with my PC, the render slows to a crawl until I stop doing anything else and just let the card do it's thing. I have no issue buying a second GPU to run my timeline if you think that will work to allow me to keep going on working and rendering at the same time.
better off having 2nd pc to do the background encoding IMO, idk about premier but davinci have remote render server thingy to handle the "export"
@@fltfathin Turns out your are absolutely correct. I ended up solving this problem by using a Premiere team project, installing a 3060 to into a lightly used server, and then remote desktop into the server to render the project! Problem COMPLETELY solved.
@@fltfathin It was a great idea! You were the only person to respond, but you're going to save me hundreds of hours of rendering this year as I use a second PC to do the heavy lifting and I can continue editing now on my main PC.
Sad to hear that the newer cards (or drivers) behave the same as it happened to me but with RX 6700 XT in Windows 10 - the stop of video signal (blank screen) at random times even when using Excel. I use for editing HitFilm Express and any driver after 22.5.1 WHQL make the timeline freeze, rendering the program unusable.
I recently found in the Reliability History that the video signal loss happened after Windows Update updated the video driver in the background. The workaround is to enable the 'Do not include drivers with Windows Updates' local policy. I must say I had no such issues when using the GTX 1660 OC card.
I've had Windows force their version of the driver for my 6700XT once before, it snuck in through update when I was actually doing a clean driver install manually for another issue. It made things dramatically worse... Some versions of their drivers are really bad. It's unfortunately a matter of finding a stable driver, and only updating every 6 months or so, to test fot the latest stable drivers
I changed out from an older rx 570 to a 6700 xt, and the performance bump was tremendous. I haven't had any issues with it. Perhaps it was a driver problem? Did you safe mode DDU the nvidia stuff before you loaded the adrenaline? That very well could cause a lot of the problems you're seeing.
He also may have an under-performing power supply unit in there, the 7900XTcan bang >400 watts in bursts, that'll cause weird stability-looking issues...
I also thought about this as soon as I saw the video pop up. A bad or clashing set of drivers make such a massive difference in performance!
I just got a 7800 XT, and I'm having issues with Lightroom freezing on my while making adjustments to RAW photos. It freezes so hard, I have to go into the task manager to shut it off then reopen, when it'll freeze again in a minute or so. Very strange. Not sure if it's the GPU or not though.
Did you use amd pro driver instead of adrenaline driver?
Additionally nvidia just increased GeForce encoding to max 5 sessions
Thank you for another great video based on pure facts. We need more creators like you!
I appreciate that!
It would be interesting to see if the latest pro drivers that they have for the 7900 XT resolves all of the complaints.
I’d be curious about that, too. I’m keeping a 4070 around for my 3D modeling but my 7800 XT experience was so good that it has replaced my 4070 for video editing.
@@perlichtman1562does it have any issues with davinci or is it smooth when scrubbing through timeline?
@@perlichtman1562which tools are u using? I am video editing myself and currently choosing between 4070, 7800xt or 7900xt
@@perlichtman1562 hi would u recommend the 4070 or the 7800xt for someone whos new to 3d rendering?
I know old vid, just a tip, for all gpu card users, including nvidia have had similar issues. mainly on default fan speeds, insane settings.
the problem with amd is a range of problems and they do not seem to listen, i have been on this for years now on amd forums warning people about theses crazy default settings.
1. the cooling paste is of such poor quality that you be wise to replace it with your own better quality, the paste that comes with the card, is already dried up and does not cool as good, so after 1 maybe 2 years depending on use or how long it was on display or in the stock, your card starts to artifact the screen, and at times create sort of screen blinking, quick off on.
When used longer your card will crash and start with artefacting the crap out of it until it goes PROOF.
2. fan settings sucks, always check your gpu fan setting also nvidia users, better yet make your own, and to be sure use a external program and not radeon drivers, they always revert back to default nuts settings, when it crashes, try setting it at manual, and see what your default fan settings are, mine rx580 was set at max 90 degrees and fan speed at 80%, no wonder it was crashing.
Make sure your fans run at max speed when they reach around 63 degrees, zero fan speed at certain low temp(DONT), disable that at once, make sure your fans spin at all times.
3. power control and options or settings as default, change it asap, undervolt your gpu and frequency on the gpu core, and store and run it as default in an external program(msi afterburner).
Go -50 on the voltage, and minus 200 on your gpu core, check your temps while you adjust the settings during a heavy gpu test program.
Go up 1 point on the voltage and 4 on the frequency until you reach a sweet spot at around 60 to 63 degrees, and then go 2 voltages below that, make sure your card does not reach higher then 63 degrees, you can go higher on that, but make sure you test it good, any artefacting, screen blinking, system reset/restart or program freezing go lower on the temps by loewring voltage and frequency.
4. last but not least the radeon software, man what can i say it does not even remember or apply your own settings when it reverts back to gpu default settings, during a crash or a freeze, and that is a huge problem on top of the 3 previous mentioned hardware misconfigure problems on hardware level, that makes your card go poof withing 2 years and 2 months on heavy use.
I had issues after 8 months with my new rx6750xt that started blinking and later 1,5 years when it started to shutdown my pc for no reason or even freezed the game i was playing without any description on why yeh DXGI crash and driver reset to default.
i changed my cooling paste, adjusted my fans to run at max speed at 63 degrees, undervolted to 1158(default=1200), and went to 2664 (default = 2694)on the gpu frequency, did not have a single issue after those changes. max temps at 63 degrees, but hardly reaches 58.
The reason i keep using msi afterburner for my fan and volage control is, that amd radeon is a piece of crap software that keeps reverting to the crazy settings and burn your gpu out of exsistance within 2 years and 2 months, i lost a rx580 due to this.
Amd default fan and voltage setting do not take in account the poor quality of the cooling paste and the dry up time of that same paste, they are to close and temps are to high and fan speeds to low at insane temps, and fine tuned the crap out of it to a literal dead spot, and a gpu card breaking spot with all 4 mentioned problems.
This 7900xt will work fine if you change the cooling paste, lower your voltages, and temps, adjust your fan speeds,and start using msi afterburner as default voltage and fan control, do not rely on radeon software.PERIOD
I tried out a Radeon 7900XTX card with Davinci Resolve - and the application doesn't even start, it crashes whenever a project was opened or media was added to a new project - and I found no hint online how to fix that (except downgrading the driver which didn't work in my case) - but there was an advertisement on UA-cam which shows how good this GPU is working with resolve... Honestly I don't know what I did wrong.
5:30 the part you mentioned about the video editing and the pc crashing and black screening was experienced by Paul (Not an Apple Fan) on the Techonomics Podcast. He’s mentioned this happened numerous times and switching to a RTX2080Ti was a much smoother process for video editing and preferred the Nvidia experience by faaaar!
I used to get this problem too with my Vega 64, but then it stopped and I have no idea why as nothing I'd tried to fix it worked.
@@TheAnon03 most of the time it's some third party SW.
It's a CPU bug it's a simple fix!!
The unfortunately reality is that for creators, Nvidia is the only choice when it comes to GPUs. I always want AMD to do well but every time it looks like they might be better, they manage to step on a rake. At this point I have more faith that intel will eventually offer an alternative to Nvidia than AMD will.
Same feeling, right now Intel doesn't have the hardware needed to compete, but they are working very well onto drivers, next serie will probably be a much more heavier strike onto the market
yea? I thought creator people like MacOS and Apple uses AMD GPUs?
@@seiyachan No. Creators need access to Cuda which is something only Nvidia can offer.
Not the only choice at all. It’s a herd mentality. I do agree that nVidia is the technology leader in a lot of ways, but their business practices are worse than Apple’s.
@@seiyachan Apple uses integrated GPUs now. They work quite well but don’t have the raw horsepower to compete with higher end discrete GPUs such as 4080s and 7900s
I agree with you about AMD’s iGPUs. Even if there were full software support, the iGPUs haven’t even had as broad format support as the UHD770. But on the discrete GPU side, I have been really surprised by how well they are working for video editing on my system.
Good to see ppl from the creative field also giving their feedback as well. Helps ppl like us also 😊 Bro what's the power supply you using coz i will be getting the GIGABYTE RX 7900 XTX AORUS ELITE and was curious.
i'm not a creator but had simular issues with my tuf 6800. pc would not go in standby, and would randomly crash with gpu error light on my board. sometimes programs i had open would just disappear. i turned everything to stock xmp off, sam off, and same issue, but longer intervals. i recently went with an asrock 7900xtx, and those issues has disappeared. not sure if it was a driver issue or not. i haven't swapped the 6800 for my 2080super in my backup rig yet to test it out. the 6800 has been sitting in a boh for the past few months. i have not been getting any crashes, or random open programs closing, and my pc goes into standby again. also i have the xmp, sam, and rage mode all turned on. i have not jumped into under volting anything yet as everything is working great.
So you said you had your system restarting a couple of times during the year and then it happened more when you installed the 7900xtx? because it seems like your system has a flaw, and you're blaming it on the GPU because it happened more times when using it, so that means that it triggered your problem and eventually, this will happen to you anytime in the future no matter what GPU you're using... you should have tested it on a different computer
Just out of curiosity, did you submit a "Bug Report" via their driver?
That seems to be the only way AMD listens to issues, and fixes them.
can it be that it is Adobe's fault as well? I meen, really, why is always the drivers?
@@crisantiberiu4633 AMD still needs to be proactive and not reactive though.
This is why Nvidia was able to dominate the scene. They were proactive enough, whilst injecting their addictive proprietary CUDA on any prominent software development.
AMD needs to be more proactive and/or play dirty like Nvidia if you want to see more competition...
@@rick_takahashiI just do not see AMD caring about consumer GPU’S beyond gaming, otherwise they would actually try harder.
@@AwankO that would be hard to do if most of Nvidia proprietary CUDA has been embedded on most software.
It would make sense for them to target gamers first, get some marketshare and actually hold it. Ryzen didn't swallow Intel in 1 generation.. it took multiple consecutive generations.
@@rick_takahashi I mean I think they don't care about it, the software side of things is a harder nut to crack than the hardware. They need to promote their GPUs more toward content creators on UA-cam, Twitch, and Discord if AMD truly wants to get into the content creation market.
Would AMD Radeon PRO card for workstations give the same experience or be improved for creators?
Don't know have to test it :)
Can you do the test again, maybe some updates has fixed the issues?
I think all of your problems were Windows 11 problems or AMD drivers for Windows 11. I had the same problems and almost returned my cards but when downgrading to windows 10 all of those issues disappeared with the same drivers. Edit: wanted to share that these issues also happened with RX 6000 series and windows 11 -- but absent on Win 10.
Ok , but this thing cost almost 1000 dollar
I have similar instability issues after upgrading to W11. My desktop icons and wallpaper will occasionally flashes like it is being reload again.
W110 user.. have same issues with amd. Pubg 50 of time it goes black screen and i have to restart.. and rarely in other ggames. I had 0 issues in 4 years with nvidia rtx 2070
Adobe even said on there website windows 11 was not a secure system for there software
I moved from a Radeon VII to this 7900 xt. I’m a Resolve user and I’ve found it to be generally excellent. Occasional crashes, but the 3 x 3090 Linux rig I also use crashes more often so I can’t complain. My Mac Studio is more stable, but obviously doesn’t offer 50 TFLOPS of raw GPU compute, and that matters when you start piling on the depth maps, Neat Video and AI keys.
I got the trouble same as this channel said when I change the graphic card from RX 560 to RTX 3080 but don't uninstall 100% the current GPU driver. And with AMD, it happens even when I haven't change the card but only the driver, if I don't remove the previous driver in the right way to make it 100% clear, AMD have a tool call "AMD Cleanup Utility" to do this job (I don't know if nVidia has the same one?!). When I'm not sure if it's clear or not, I have to reinstall the Windows to make sure. So when you change the graphic card in the same Windows system, make sure it (the previous driver) clear 100% if you'd like to run it smoothly.
PS: I'm using Windows 11 Workstation now. I've never get this kind of trouble when I'm using Windows 10 Pro.
i'm on rx 5700xt, and could use an upgrade soonish. but i'm reluctant to go into a radeon again, because the way it works with radeon is you buy the iron, and then you wait another year or two for amd to fix all the driver issues :/
I'm in the same boat as you.
Though I'm going back to team green since AMD doesn't care about creators & they always have driver issues with every new architecture.
Upgraded from 5700XT to 7800XT. The thermals, performance EVERYTHING is superior to the 5700XT. I didn't realize how terrible that card was until I upgraded. No more 110c hotspots neither.
I think it might be related to the power issue, have u try power it up with separate PSU?
Since then I heard there where new updates on the drivers, you tried again to use it?
He won't try again he's just wanted to attack amd. Windows restarting because GPU? Premier oro crashing?I've never experienced that with stock amd settings. I don't believe him at all. Unless he's overclocking
@@pusico6555 it does happen on AMD as well as NVIDIA cards when a particular task takes tooo long on compute unit, driver times out as these cards were primarily meant for gaming and games don't cause that much compute delay ! it is know as TDR time outs . So either switch from graphics mode to compute or increase the tdr using reg edits. And sometimes AMD cards just go black and have to restart Driver with win +shift+ crt +b .
Surprisingly my 5700G's Radeon iGPU have no issues so far. Davinci resolve works very smooth and stable. Maybe its an old Vega Architecture that's why. Btw Linus Sebastian (LTT) said that they never go with the latest gen of components for editing systems, they always go one generation back
Davinci is just much better coded than Premier. It's stable on everything :)
That’s true I have 6800xt but didn’t crash randomly.
When most popular company completed with ea
That’s happening 😂😂😂😂😂
davinci works much better with amd cards, problem is many people don't wanna switch if they already know premiere really well
I went from 2080 Super to PowerColor Red Devil 6900XT and in Adobe and Windows I had same situations as you mentioned. I did clean DDU install few times, even I did install fresh WIndows and still the same problem so as much I loved everything about Red Devil 6900 XT I finally decided to sell it and go back to nvidia and all problems all gone.
Different cards but I had the same experience. Switched to AMD and for gaming it was generally fine. For everything else however… 👀
@@edgyjorgensen3286 Yes for gaming without RT absolutley beast ( but I played few older games where frames dropped like crazy when switched back to nvidia - again back to normal ) also Red Devil was very quiet and cold and great design! it was really hard for me to sell it after not much long peroid of using it but like we say... gaming ok but everything else not...
To be honest I create and 3d model martial arts weapons for a company here in the UK and went with 7900XT for the odd bit of gaming I'm loving it
Are you doing 3d modeling with it?
@@Ghostlynotme445 yes
@@Denzsy how is it?
how is it after 7+ months?
I would be curious what Event Viewer showed as possible culprit during those sudden shut downs/screen blanking. Also when you changed video cards did you DDU the Nvidia drivers before switching the GPUs? DDU might prevent many errors if switching GPUs.
Yes, DDU-d all Nvidia soft+drivers :)
@@theTechNotice you didn’t, I had been using my 7900xt with topaz ai / handbrake 24/7 for more than 42 days… 0 issues.
@@unavailable291 Maybe they did. Not every card behaves the same. There could be one odd combination of software even, that just causes problems... For me it's using VLC to watch video while browsing the web. If I have UA-cam open one side of the screen and VLC paused on the other, I'll get a black or green screen, it's just a matter of time... Even with different web browsers. VLC will always cause a driver crash with UA-cam
@@Ben-Rogue this is on Windows I suppose? .... that sounds like a weird driver/software hiccup ...
I've no such problems on Linux .... on my Win machine I run NVidia....
@@MarinMarusic_N3TPUNK Yep, on Windows
Weird, I don't have any of those issues with a 7900XT, but I also don't use all those fancy tools, I just use shotcut and lossless cut with 3rd party codec packs.
I have had similar experiences with my 5700xt either crashing in apps and games, and some times yes it just disappears. Been putting up with that for over 3 years, now I'm doing a complete rebuild. 4090 water force edition, 7950x, asus Prime x670e Pro wifi, 64gb @6400, Samsung 990 pro, 1200 watt. Thanks for your videos leading me in the right direction looking for the right parts. Also saved some money buying a windows 10 key with your discount 👌
I had a Nitro + 5700XT, one day it just quit putting out a display. 2070S been going for years and hasn't hiccupped.
holy overkill, but congrats bro. The crem de la crem
Don’t get 6400mhz ram, get 6000mhz because over 6000mhz halves the infinity fabric clock making performance drop quite a bit and stutters occur quite a lot
You may want to rethink that Samsung 990 Pro SSD. They're having a lot of premature wear / degradation issues with those.
You know I currently been using 6800xt with R9 5900x for UW 1440p Ultra for almost 2 years. No hiccups. Ran like a champ! Still playing MW2 with no problems and high fps. When I hear stories like this, I cringe. Either you're an nVidia fanboy and love to talk junk about AMD & their fandom. Or you got a crappy 5700xt with bad QA. Or you're lying! I had a palit 3060 around the same time I got the 6800xt. Worked great. For 3 months then KAPUT! It was light gaming! What a POS! Sorry you had to deal with a POS too. So, recently bought a new 3080, and it runs like a champ too. But AMD is still faster! Nvidia is way better at RT. Enough said. Good luck
Have you tried kdenlive instead of adobe premiere?
I have rx 6650 xt it works well in kdenlive and it's very excellent but in adobe premiere it doesn't work well with amd rx 6650 xt.
I hope you try kdenlive in a week and Thanks
I still have my 1660 super is it acually worth spending out on a 4070 as i have about 40 1 hour 4k renders to do
Seems from your stunned reactions, you are new to AMD black screens, migrated to 3080 from 5700xt in 2020 and never looked back, now having 4090 and enjoying every bit of it
I fell for 5700xt reviewers shilling too. RMA'd it and bought 2070 super in a month of blackscreens and crashes - had zero problems since.
The black screen is a premium feature, not a bug.
😂😂 it's the new OP4HWOL feature.. offscreen, pause for healthier way of life
@@deuswulf6193it can turn any screen into an oled for a few milliseconds great feature.
Disable fast boot, all 5700XT issues vanish.
I've got the same issues with 5700XT, it lasted for few month. Initial game tests by youtubers back then was something like it was on par with 2060S, and I got a bit dissapointing game results for few month. Later they updated drivers, and all the issues were gone, and performance boosted. Several updates later it was reaching 2070S performance in some games! I was shoked) Anyway, they have to make drivers at launch at least without issues you and me got, I understand that they need to collect many data from different systems to make it perfect, but laggy drivers at launch has to stop
Yeah the Fine Wine is a old problem that still exists
I always heard people complain about AMD and I always purchased AMD cards that were at least 3 years old so the drivers were mostly fine at the point with an issue here and there, but for the first time ever I purchased a brand new 7900xt and then moved to windows 11 and it has been nothing but problems with the drivers... I even considered Nvidia again for the first time in 15 years.
Then you sillies get no product. You don't realize what the Internet has done to computing yet have you?
@@KAILOONE it sounds like they start from scratch for every generation then.
@@einarabelc5 I actually solved it like a week ago or so, it seems when you update to win11 the bios goes from discrete to firmware gpu, I changed that from bios even AMD admitted there was a problem of that option moving from bios when updating but that fixed it for me, very few issues ATM for me at least, I feel there is some ministutter once and then but I think that is because I only have one 32gb memory stick in single channel.
Great insight into GPU performance for creators!
When do you think Hip RT gets fully implemented by gpu renderers such as redshift?(or out of beta in blender?)
I recently upgraded my old vega 56 with a 4070TI and I can confirm the random crashes on premiere pro on AMD graphics (especially when alt+tabbing to other apps)
Im currently running a frontier edition card and its stable as a rock and i do renderings and everything else.
Could be your PSU not up to scratch. Vega had very high transient power load which caused weaker systems to fail. 4070 is a terrible choice it barely has more vram headroom than your 4-5 year old gpu lmao./
@@N4CR5 This is EXACTLY true. I would have random crashes ONLY when running at max power. I replaced the PSU with a larger one and it never happened again.
@@N4CR5 I need a new PC. I wanted to go with an AMD GPU with at least 16GB vram but now this video made me thinking... I can't go above 2000 bucks for the whole build (Euros). 1500-1700 would be better, so I could buy me a nice monitor with the rig.
What do you think should I do >_> ? Take the L and go with the 4070ti or wait til prices drop and 4080 gets in range :/ ?
I use the Sapphire 7900XTX and i am very happy. I know how and what tools to use. I do Blender and work on small games. Waiting for new Threadrippers ; ) Sad to hear that the gpu was not doing well for you. You can always send problems to AMD it is integrated in the driver. Would be nice when you can report Premiere crash.
A Threadripper is probably overkill for your workload. Currently, Blender prefers single thread performance for most operations, apart from sculpting and rendering (which isn't relevant if you use your GPU for rendering). As for game engines, having many cores improves compilation speed, but unless you are a programmer this isn't a bottleneck to your workflow.
All to say, a consumer chip with high single thread performance and a moderate core-count should be sufficient.
Do you have any crashes with games?
What is your overall experience with the RX 7900 XTX as a content creator now? Do you have any experience using it with Adobe softwares?
Yo bro, can you tell me more about your experience with the Sapphire 7900XTX, how it perfoms in creator tools like rendering, photo/video editing and also obviosly gaming (if you can) because I'm wondering to buy the Sapphire 7900XTX or the ASUS ROG STRIX RTX 4070 TI OC.
@@locinolacolino1302hey i wanted to ask, I wanna build a pc for game dev and gaming at 1440p and wanted to know if I should go with AMD cz of it's VRAM/price or Nvidia cz of people talk about stability and performance in work
SECONDLY should I go for AMD or Intel
On AMD Pro GPUs as well, I find impossible to use Premier. I can not even start it sometimes. It's just Premier though. Other video editors run just fine.
I'm no expert, but couldn't this be a problem due to poor power supply? Or some other incompatibility? Did you try this video card in other setups? Is this information current as of February 2024? Other users also had this problem?
I had the 7900xtx and for me my pc would freeze when running OBS. I never had the other issues just when I'm running OBS after about 2hrs or so it would freeze the PC. Most it did it was 3x in a row. I loved the card which is such a shame. I ended up going back to a 6900xt which never had that issue for me.
so it s a thing related to 7000 series or driver... because a know many many people use 6800xt o 6900xt for editing with no problem
@saafff5465 I think it was a driver issue for the 7000 series. I've had a every model of the 6000 series and none of them gave me this issue. Heck I went back to the 6900xt a reference model at that and it works perfectly.
It would be good to do a follow to see if the updated drivers fixed these issues.
Are you that naive to believe that AMD drivers will be fixed...
@@ozmobozo seems like they already did...looking fwd to an updated review.
@@tubasweb well my 6600 is still a mess soo
The random system crashes might be related to your CPU actually...
Sounds very similar to what I started experiencing, using 5900x and 2070 Super.
Premiere pro would simply crash to desktop - without error message or nothing in event viewer.
And windows would freeze - go to black, then my computer restart.
Thought it was my GPU, switched out the GPU to an 3070 TI - as again, the computer would go black but sound would still like "freeze" and then the computer restarted.
Again, nothing in event viewer..
GPU switch didn't do anything. Memtest came back negative every time...
So I bit the bullet and bought a second 5900x. And no issues at all since.
So for me, I must have been unlucky with my old 5900x...
I also had stability issues in blender with 6900XT and 7900XT instantly switched back to nvidia, I have an issue open that's now 1 year old on their gitlab... still no fix.
Blender is definitely the application where I had the worst experience with AMD cards so far - and the reason I keep a 4070 around. Oddly not the case in all applications trying to do similar things, though. For instance, particle systems in Blender are faster with Nvidia but running 3D particle systems in Particle Illusion standalone has been faster for me with both the Arc A770 16GB and 7800 XT than the 4070, even with really low VRAM usage, often shaving a minute or more off what were 7 minute renders with the 4070. I think it might be because of lower driver overhead because it was hard to get results that weren’t at least somewhat CPU limited in that application even on a 13900K.
From my experience , when going to AMD from Nvidia , you need to do a complete new windows .. have switch from the 2 brand 3 time in total , and always had issue (crash , bluescreen, instability etc) even after using DDU , and newest driver... and everytime i do a new windows every issue went away.
Talking with friend they had similars experiences when switching to AMD, so maybe it could explain what happen with , would like to see a nother test from you with a fresh windows tho , cool video anyway.
Hmmm... interesting... what's the thinking/reason behind that?
@theTechNotice it has been this way from the beginning of time. Any time you switch from amd to Nvidia or even voodoo (back in the day), it required a reinstall of windows to be stable.
It's the primary reason we always had the boot drive separate from the rest of our data.
@@theTechNotice from my experience with my wife pc ... When I first installed AMD GPU there was no problems and one day went and removed all Nvidia programs and got ton of issues.. The solution was to remove AMD adrenalin and re-install it and problem solved. so if moving from Nvidia to AMD try to uninstall all Nvidia drivers and programs before install AMD adrenalin for the first time ...
The only Issue I was getting recently is green screen when using adobe photoshop ... I believe it has something to do with cable bandwidth, I notice when the screen resolution set to 1440P 240hz the colors move to 8bit instead of 10 bit and I believe photoshop is trying to force 10 bit color and that cause the green screen .. lowered the refresh rate to 120hz with 10-bit colors solved the issue (still using 240hz in gaming without any issues)
@@estoylisto Either your monitor o cable needs upgrade.
All the described symptoms normally comes from spikes of power usage that the power supply can't handle quickly enough, either prompting an immediate reboot or crashing graphics driver (causing lags and stuttering, that can be resolved by S3 sleep mode or restart). There are so many reasons this can happen together with other hardware, but nvidia's cards doesn't have as huge spikes so you don't need as good of a power supply for those.
That would be true except in this case it had a 3090 ti before (which is the worst card in recent history for power comsumption and spikes) and had no issue like that
@@sparkzzy889 I believe you. What I told were what explains every problem you talked about. There's absolutely no other thing, except maybe cap failure on the motherboard that can explain all that.
I don't think that what card you had before matters, even if it was known for using a lot of power. I had this problem with Sapphire 7900 XT, stock, on an 850W Platinum 80 power supply and I recognized (I kind of was expecting it from previous experience upgrading from Nvidia to AMD) and all of those problems stopped when I changed to a 1000W Gold 80 power supply.
I've done testing on this with sensitive equipment, and AMD tend to have rare high spikes that reaches close to 1000W and the further away from that the power supply can manage the less chance it has to compensate quickly enough. This is milliseconds we're talking about, and a normal multimeter doesn't pick it up, or rather it shows like 600-800 something averaging over about 1 second.
Anyways, if you ever get the chance to try again, try with as "strong" of a power supply as you can find to be sure it's not as simple as that.
If your computer reboots suddenly, without bluescreen, and there's no exit event written, or there's a kernel power error event, you can be sure it is a power failure. (Event Viewer -> System)
@@_Karlsson Good advice. Temps too.
Bro Arctic Freezer 34 eSports DUO is enough for i5 13600k ?? Not doing any OC
Did you try another card or a Founders edition? What about the 7900XTX?
This day and age you need the 24GB XTX OC at least if going AMD GPU bro I don't know why you even thought the XT would be ok. I knew from day one that the XT was trash for everything. Especially when the XTX was literally £100 more or £300 more for the ASUS/MSI etc... and if you can afford the XT then you can afford the XTX.
The short answer is "Creators needs CUDA cores" As a fan of AMD and working with 3D graphic, animations and photogrammetry I was trying to use RADEONs but finally I had to give up. I can't run many programs on radeons because of lack of CUDA cores. It is not necessary fault od AMD. They have their own solutions but developers of the software often don't even try to make something compatible with AMD GPUs.
That instability could be from drivers that were not removed/installed properly. Use the AMD Cleanup Utility to removed the old drivers and then re-install the latest drivers. I guess the drivers are still a work in progress. Make sure you report those bugs.
doubt it. dude runs a tech channel and would know to ddu old drivers. this sounds like typical amd driver shenanigans.
"Assuming" is a road full of surprises.
Until he says he did it I wouldn't take that out of the list.
This video for me is an example that one can build a channel on benchmarking software and never deal with the product "in real life".
Who cares if a GPU is 10% faster if it spends 25% rebooting?
This is a creator focused channel, he's a creator. Putting a fresh install on the box and using it is the way to go.
Changing the gpu on a previous setup is a tortuous path.
you didn't mention what pwu you had ? could that have been your problem with reboots ?
Linked in the description 850w bequiet 80+ titanium. Well within the spec of the GPU... :)
Can u pls make a similar video with the Arc A770 on the content creator side, the good, the bad, the ugly etc. I would be really thankful.
I think the problem lies more with Adobe software. In davinci the 7900xtx is fantastic.
thank you for this. you gave me hope lol I just bought a pc with this GPU, is I could work on Davinci hopefully it goes well for me too
@@P3ACE305bro how does it work in Davinci? Thinking of getting one and I use davinci
@@P3ACE305how it going, are things crashing or what’s happening. i’m thinking on buying
the 7900 xtx. thanks
How it go, are things crashy or wut happen with the 7900xtx if u buyed the card? Thax
There we have it why we love yer channel finally someone who cares about content creators I agree 100% There's not enough content Creator Support out there sadly as yer saying its mostly gaming related
I like the dark red look to this. I haven't seen the full video, but the 7900 is out soon and I'm looking for a new chap GPU, arc vs the 7600
I have seen a lot of similar "sudden blackout" issues among gaming discussions. Most if not all of them boiled down to the PSU, either being the rig drawing too much power, or a heavy spike that triggered PSU protection.
Personally speaking, I am running Radeon 7900xtx + Ryzen 5900X but I have never experienced that. It was probably because I am using a Corsair HX1000i PSU, that is more than capable on handling even the spikes.
I have a 13600k with an undervolt 1.125 V and my 7900 xtx is undervolted as well 1120 mV. 32 gb of ddr. 1.35V. My PSU is an ax860 platinum. Do you think I should upgrade. Even if my GPU draws the max power of 400+ my CPU at max draws 200-250. Plus the ram and 3 HDDs and 3 SSDs and 6 fans and an AIO pump. I shouldn’t be at the 860W threshold… do you think if you’re close it’s best to upgrade regardless?
@@Oregon.ore_gone CPU and GPU may be less stable when undervolted. I suggest you try it under a default setting, i.e. default voltage & default clock, before changing any hardware.
I upgraded to an Asus tuff 6800xt and noticed uninstaling GPU TWEAK III - fixed most, if not all my stabillity issues in affinty design and other software.
using davinci, I had the stuttering issue at first but I adjusting some frame rate setting in it and it runs smooth as butter now
Is your intermittent error experience with Radeon shared by other users of the same or similar programs?
Does AMD use fewer checksums than Intel and if so can this produce execution errors?
Would combining an AMD CPU with an Nvidia graphics card, or an Intel CPU with an AMD graphics card be a good alternative?
I had the same 'shutdown' black screen happen to me a few times when I got a RTX3090. I thought it might be my 850PSU so had a used 1,300 coming in and realized my UPS was 810W and maybe it was shutting down due to a spike. So I found a used 2,000 watt UPS. both came in the same day, installed together and working fine. I'd had my GPU set at low power for the few days before those components came in and now it regularly pulls 349 watts to itself.
I also thought it sounded like a power issue, possibly on the driver end, possibly with hardware.
@@roundandedgeless.1218 There is the idea that this is even due to power-stripe - and in US - (110V) they recommend to connect directly to the wall socket.
Long term users should not be surprised by the persistent support from Nvidia, regarding software compatibility and reliability in the professional sphere. Nvidia was one of the first vendors to provide complete OpenGL ICD support way back with RiVA 128 and TNT, not just some miniGL layer for the Quake-based games.
Yeah great, fanboy! No open source? Gee whiz no thanks:p Nvidia only cares about their profit margins so I’m surprised about this “persistent support from NVidia.”
@@andyjoelharper3448 Of course they are doing it to make money, no one doubts that they are greedy af (just like most companies) and aren't doing this from the good of their hearts. Either way, they provide great support and are on top of fixing all issues within weeks. I couldn't care less why they give this support, the fact is that I gave them my money for a gpu so I expect it to work without issues on their end. Can't say that for AMD *yet*.
I hate nvidia for many reasons but I have to admit the drivers work properly.
@@andyjoelharper3448 Nvidia did release an open source driver I think in 1999 for the Riva 128 and the TNT. Problem was they included SGI's software renderer as part of the driver and were hit hard by SGI for it and could no longer distribute the driver. Not sure if that may have been part of the reason why nvidia was hesitant to release open source again or not, but I did use that driver when it released back then on a Riva 128.
Have you tried replacing the card under warranty? Defective goods happen
I had the crashing issues described with a 5700 xt. The issue turned out to be brief power spikes. Upgrading my psu resolved the issue.
Been running a 7800 XT on a 1200W PSU. I wonder if that was why I didn’t have similar issues?
@@perlichtman1562 I had an 850 which I thought was more than enough but the power spikes despite being very brief were 600 watts on the card alone which would trip the PSU overvolt protection
I wouldn’t want to lose the Nvenc encoder, much less any of these other problems. I really wish Nvidia had a competitor… unfortunately, they really don’t. I’m loving AV1, but my 2060 doesn’t support it. I’m considering populating the second PCI-E 16x with a cheap Intel Arc GPU for the hardware AV1 support.
Looking at benchmarks the amf h264 encoder was only 5% worse than nvenc in visual quality at the same bitrate. So i dont see how 5% is such a huge deal breaker
@@SystemParanoia and it’ll keep my 10900k in my system for years to come. Between the ARC and the 2060 (12gb version) my i9 won’t have a whole lot to do! Right now the CPU is handling the AV1 10bit encoding… let’s just say, it ain’t fast!😃
@@rickbrookes9491 If you really want fast, Intel's 13th gen is worth looking at for an upgrade.
How is the 2060? Performing wise im planning to use it as a temporary GPU until i can afford a high end one..
only 850W? broh, you need 1000+W for a high end GPU...your instable might cause by psu, and it's not like it haven't happened before.
I did the same build from your video and I did it on windows 10 and I did not have one problem at all doing very similar video editing that I do in the lab and personal business and it was super smooth
Have you tried the test a year later with the gpu updates ??
That black screen issue happened a lot to me at work, it was driving me crazy, my editing workflow usually involves premiere pro and affter effects for some motion graphics in the secucuence and happened exactly that, black screen and the PC (ryzen 4400G Pro + RX570) restarts, so I swapped the gpu for and gtx 1650 super, installed studio drivers and everything is more stable now.
A gtx 1650 is good enough for your video editing needs? What kind of work do you do?
@@ChrisAlbertH47 well, not exactly my needs, I'm trying to convince my boss for an upgrade but that hasn't come yet... I was seeing instability issues so I wondered if an nvidia card and cuda acceleration could improve stability and speed in general so I had that 1650 lying around (is kinda equal to the rx570 the PC already had, bot have 4 GB vram) so I made the change and the problem of black screen+restar went away, also render time diminished in general and timeline speed improved, both premiere and after effects
@@kevynacb1980 Good to know. I have an old GTX 1080 and I was wondering if it would be enough to do some basic to intermediate video editing at 1080 to 4K. Nothing heavy or complicated.
@@ChrisAlbertH47 according to Adobe, at least 6 GB of vram are required to work with 4k in premiere so you're in good place with that 1080 (8 GB) and if you have the system ram (32 GB) you're good to go
@@kevynacb1980 Yes, I do have 32 GB of RAM. Thanks for the info.
Please do the same with Arc A770. Also make a video on how these GPUs and CPUs deal with AV1.
Or you can do it
I need to know that one as well!
@@user-jh1mq2ih2u The problem is that I live in another country, and there is no place where I can order the Intel ARC GPU. So, I need someone who can run the test and show us the results before we order the product.
@@Gamundi08 plenty of videos on UA-cam plenty of articles on line
@@Gamundi08 and trial
And error order it just like other UA-camrs who don’t get the free stuff .. but it and do your review and return it you have to just like other starting UA-camrs/reviewers do .. excuses are weak
I've had my 7900xt since about a week after launch, never had any of these issues and I'm in premiere pro editing 4-6k footage everyday. Maybe your unit was just messed up?
Thank u so much for sharing your experiences.