The thing about "these actors are millionaires" is that most members of SAG AREN"T millionaires. A lot of them are making less thant thirty thousand a year.
A lot of the demands of the strikers are better pay and working condition for smalltime actors, including such things as studios having to actually say whether a role has been filled or not(because studios would often keep auditions open despite filling the role just so they can get a bunch of info on more actors while wasting their time)
There are a bunch of actors who were mainliners in TV and movies in the '90s and 2000s that are now or for years were doing basic labour like landscaping and hospital coding. Sometimes once the show ends, the cast is typecast or considered toxic because the studios think the actors are too tightly intertwined with the identity of the show, meaning the actors never get work again (or at least don't get any for about a decade). The guy who played Harvey in Sabrina The Teenage Witch, Nate Richert, and the Brino brothers who played Sam and David and 7th Heaven are two good examples of that. The Brino brothers even got screwed out of royalties for legacy media sales of the show along with everyone else due to the CW consolidation and thus "renegotiation" of their contract with CBS. Unless you're someone like Jennifer Aniston or Jim Parsons and carry the entire network on your show's back you're not making a lot of money long term. In fact sometimes the contracts are written so that you're paid in a way that puts you in a higher tax bracket and thus pay more taxes, but get less take home pay (like your contract being in nine month increments because that's how long a season takes to air, meaning if your show lasts beyond the first season you get paid twice in the first year and then shafted in the second). That's actually a big reason that SAG joined the current strike and aligned themselves with the '07 strike.
The worst part of the Anchor Brewing Co. case is that the workers offered to buy the brewery but Sapporo Breweries did not give them the time to do so. Could have been the latest entry in the tradition of "why don't we just buy the damn place?", where organized workers buy a "failing" business and operate it as a cooperative.
Without the parasites sucking out the wealth and mucking up the business with their incompetence and pettiness it's a lot easier to be profitable and functional.
Alice: "I'm tried of people getting my name wrong and making it more masculine." Me: *awaiting the debut of podcaster Elizabeth Cuntsgood.* F for all the Troops who are now going to have to attend mandatory training about why a Dishonorable Discharge is preferable to North Goddamn Korea.
My body is a machine that turns physical labor into a monthly patreon subscription so i can have suspension bridges be explained to me for the Nth time. *and I'm so excited!*
The Bar Rescue guy came to Piratz Tavern in downtown Silver Spring Maryland and changed this pirate themed bar into almost a literally corporate box. His thinking was the office workers that worked in the ofice buildings surrounding the bar would come hang out after work. Not understanding most people who in downtown Silver Spring dont live there so they go home and the bar failed. In fact the renovations hurt the bar more than it helped.
@@benevolentworldexploder5395 exactly. The man had some good points, the food and service quality should have been improved. Not completely sterilize the place.
Sounds exactly like Gordon Ramsay’s show, where he essentially does the same thing at every restaurant and then the vast majority of them fail within a year of the changes.
I work near Albert Bridge, for a long time I thought the sign was meant out of respect to Prince Albert instead of structural integrity lmao. Also the pub down the road has a sign "All troops must break step before marching into this alehouse"
Devon: Roz's joke @ 16:08 was a reference to Otto Warmbier, the American who died in North Korean custody after trying to steal a DPRK flag and other "memorabilia" Truly, the most "white boy" move you can make in North Korea
also, if you didn't get the "beer summit" part, that was a thing Obama and Biden did in 2009 with (famous, black) Professor Henry Louis Gates and the white cop who arrested him for trying to break into his own house. It was a whole thing...
It was. According to the city law the first time offense is $250, no matter how many trees are included. I guess the take away is if you are planning on tree murder then you might as well make the most of it. It sucks, because I get why the first offense is so low. Like the logic is probably if someone doesn't realize that it is illegal then it's a fine that doesn't punish your lack of knowledge, but they clearly took advantage of this and the law should have leeway in redefining this incident since the motive was clearly antagonistic.
Yeah turns out the law was designed with the assumption that it would be just a rogue individual being overenthusiastic about trimming trees, rather than a massive company doing it to fuck over striking workers.
@@benevolentworldexploder5395 ugh that's so upsetting. if the trees die and the city has to replace them, I doubt they'll go through the expense of getting trees of comparative size/age and just put in a few spindly saplings and call it a day.
Actually it was just for the trimming. We're essentially at the stage where the victim is in hospital and we're waiting to see if it's an assault or murder charge. If the trees end up dying (which we won't know until the fall), it's replacement + one other tree.
32:43 “bumblebees shouldn’t be able to fly” in a mocking voice. You are more right to mock than you know, as it is now worked out how they fly. Microscopic hairs increasing the lift effect of the surface area of their wings. You should do a bee episode. I know an up-and-coming guy you should get in.
Also their wings flap differently to birds, the old ‘bumblebees shouldn’t be able to fly’ was based on an assumption that they flapped their wings the same way birds do.
@@deeznoots6241 my other favourite recent bee debunk is a bit more abstract but amazing. Older literature assumes bees to have some sophisticated means we don’t understand to avoid flying into each other at the entrance to the hive. The increase in accessibility of high speed photography had modern researchers think maybe they could learn more about this. Turns out bees fly into each other all the time. They’ve even identified a particular buzz unique to just after a mid air collision. It’s unscientific to anthropomorphise - but also lots of fun - so I imagine the air filled with the buzzing of “whoops, sorry” “Scuse me” “mind how you go now”
You should consider doing an episode on the Dreyfus Affair. It contains: The French, The Germans, massive systematic incompetence, false imprisonment, a scullery maid, anti-semitism, military goofiness, and a relatively happy ending. It also has perhaps too much documentation. It’s perfect!
@@Altoclarinets Yes, an open letter written by Emile Zola declaring that he accuses the French government of antisemitism. E: Somewhat related to the Dreyfus affair, "[President of France at the time Felix] Faure died suddenly at the age of 58 from apoplexy in the Élysée Palace on 16 February 1899, while engaged in sexual activities in his office on top of the presidential desk with the then 30-year-old Marguerite Steinheil." Ah, the French.
Fun Dilbert fact: Even Scott Adams hated the dilburrito despite it being his idea, so technically if anyone at all liked the energy Korean food it would be a more successful product
@10:40 Alice- "If you're captured or imprisoned in North Korea and you're white, you have a pretty good time of it..." Oof. Yeah, there's a slight snag in that, Alice... Alice -"...so maybe he's just having a good time there..." Yeah, no... He's not...
As unlikely as it is given the circumstances, I have a tiny glimmer of hope that they *are* going to use him as a propaganda actor, but in the context of “look how horrible Western racism is/was.” Which, y’know, would be a fair take, all things considered.
56:00 Almost any large group of 18-24 year olds could go “haha, this bridge is wiggling when we walk in step, can we wiggle it more?” The problem is simply that we taught this group how
Devon at this point has me Pavlov-style conditioned to look at my phone screen every time I hear a pop in the audio because of this podcast. Now for everything, if I hear a pop of static I feel the urge to check for biting commentary, only then remembering that this is a different podcast that’s audio only.
Timestamps: 0:00:00 November Tummy Update 0:02:53 Intro 0:07:25 The GD News: Man Defects In Search Of Rocz's Computer Archives 0:16:21 The GD News: Rocz Beer Rant + Everything is Woke's Fault 0:25:19 The GD News: Couldn't Write a Dirtier Trick 0:32:20 Background: What was a suspension bridge again? 0:37:49 Background: Mechanical Resonance 0:48:18 Background: What is soldiers? 0:52:12 The Broughton Bridge 0:55:27 Bridge Fall Down 0:58:38 Aftermath 1:04:05 Other Problematic Bridges 1:17:02 Safety Third: Freak Accident Involving Nuke Rocket Devon is editing high and I'm timestamping drunk. Go birds. Might update this later.
In fairness, they're very slow-growing, require very niche circumstances to reach cactus puberty, are a keystone species, and can die from some dumbass using them for target practice (water loss). I'm very fond of the big green spiky bois.
@@jamesphillips2285 Seems to be centered in Phoenix. They had temps over 110 for a month and the monsoons are only just now arriving. Tucson hasn't been as bad but most established cacti take a long time to show signs of death.
As one of the people for whom Justin has explained suspension bridges a dozen times and gets excited every time, and is a Patron, you’re welcome! It’s half of why I come back each episode.
@@gray0014ah, but then you need to also explain whether it's the spelling with an A or an E. (I, especially would need such a reminder, since I change which one I use practically every time I write the word grey/gray)
@@maxwellrobertson4831 personally, i dont care how strangers/acquaintances spell my name. but the lore on it is that i spell my name with an "a" and the color with an "e". but tbh as long as someone gets the gist that my name is "gra(e)y" im totally fine with whatever
I believe the clearance thing with the Millennium Bridge was for the view of St Pauls from the other bank. There are laws in London that say you need to have a clear line of sight to the dome of St Pauls from a few vantage points around the city which is why there are some rather funky shaped buildings there.
"You know there are a lot of people out there who are listening to you explain a suspension bridge to them for possibly the dozenth time in their lives and are excited by it" Finally feeling seen by my close parasocial friend Alice
Ya'll have been a great comfort lately. I got sick from stress this spring and had to stop working for a while. I'm better now, but having a hard time finding appropriate employment. In my darkest hours, you three [Edit: And Devon, love you, too, bud.] keep me going, and I deeply appreciate it.
I've walked over the Albert Bridge many times while going to Battersea Park, and that sign do be making me nervous every time I see it. Like hey, cool, vibrations will absolutely fuck this bridge-- Let's proceed to walk across it in high winds while surrounded by cars and other people who are also walking, making little tippy taps on the bridge with our little feets. This is fine, but also, I have anxiety so no it's not.
Having jumped up and down on a suspension bridge many times before, I can't say I blame the soldiers for enjoying the bouncing bridge. All of my suspension bridge jumping occurred before any of the marching I've done in my life too.
Interestingly the Millennium bridge is similar to the Tacoma Narrows bridge in that the issue wasn't simply resonance. The wobble of the bridge caused pedestrians to shift their movements to keep balance which in turn excited the bridge even more, similar to the way aeroelastic flutter works.
As a trans woman whose name also begins with "Nov--," you should know that cis people will still be baffled by "November." My life: "It's 'Nova,' N O V A." "Nora?" "No." "Norma?" "No." "Norbert?" "Oh, fuck OFF."
Its sad when out trans woman caves to pressure. I want every trans person to achieve Chim and assert everyone else is a fake person and you're the only one who is real.
Emmalyn here. Thankfully most people just hear Emmaly, Though I have had one hear Emmaline. At least it's better than my assigned name, where the worst was 2 letters right of 5. I have no idea how they took Britt and got Chris... Bret, guilty myself. Brent, sure. Brick, I guess. Chris, WTF.
I think the max fine for the tree murder is around $250 for a first offender, regardless of the number of trees involved. I hope I'm wrong. Love your work!
"Sir! Did you pack this basement? Has it been under your supervision the entire time? Could someone have installed a nuclear reactor in this basement without your knowledge?"
Always so delighted when a new wtyp drops. Thank you all for turning disasters into learning and (often) laughter. Yay Liam, hi Roz and hello whoever that woman is now.
Enjoy that WTYP knew straight away that Tekoi was for submarine launched nuclear missiles. While CGP grey after weeks of research and being on base didn't.
"Hook... I don't know the first name." My brain: "Captain." November, moments later: "Captain." Ah. November and I are sharing a brain. That explain so much. *bangs frontal lobe with a cross-Atlantic-length broomstick* "STOP HAVING ANXIETY UP THERE! I NEED TO SLEEP!"
I've had Taedonggang beer a few times at DPRK restaurants, and it's pretty good. Apparently it's popular in north east China as it's so much better than domestic beer.
Huge fan of November. First class of Soviet nuclear submarines. For the first decade of them in service it was assumed they were probably similar but slightly inferior to the first US nuclear submarine in performance, I.E. could probably hit around ~25 knots in an emergency. Then in the late 60s one of them trashed the USS Enterprise in a drag race all the way up to 31 knots. Which made the navy shit itself so hard it made the Mk48 and the Los Angeles class
The Mk 48 was a response to the Alfa-class. The Los Angeles was, however a response to the Novembers, and was originally intended to be a fleet support submarine, with another design called CONFORM intended to perform other SSN tasks. Rickover killed CONFORM because the Los Angeles (and it's reactor, an adapted D2G for submarine use) was his pet project, in spite of CONFORM being a potentially superior design (deeper diving, more advanced sonars and almost as fast).
@@forcea1454 Mk48 ADCAP was developed in response to Alfa. Base model entered service to combat 'current' Soviet submarine threats when 'current' meant Victor I and November, it was only a year after the first Alfa and you can't design the Mk48 from scratch in a year. While Rickover was a huge asshole and CONFORM was killed for stupid reasons, I'm unconvinced in retrospect CONFORM would have been better, mainly because of the record of the Alfa. Generally speaking, SSNs are better when they're larger, although obviously you can't just keep making them bigger forever and keep getting benefits. A small, highly advanced, deep diving, fast, and heavily automated submarine was exactly what the Alfa was supposed to be, and to its credit it was very successful, with a genuinely remarkably advanced set of features for its time (fully automated target identification, tracking, and engagement, and fully automated torpedo room, among other things). But it was too expensive, too fragile, and generally just had more tradeoffs than it was worth. The Soviets went on to make Sierra and Akula, which used much of the tech from the Alfa but refocused development on making a large, robust, and quiet platform, and they were spectacularly successful. And what the Sierra and Akula were to the Alfa, it's always to me felt like the LA and Virginia were to the CONFORM. While Rickover was in the wrong in his actions and in general, in hindsight I think we blundered into a better submarine somehow at his behest
@@thegenericguy8309 CONFORM was going to be between the size of a Sturgeon and Narwhal, not as small as an Alfa. Virginia isn't really comparable to the Sierra or Akula, it's essentially a post-Cold War design intended to maintain the submarine manufacturing base (not a bad idea, considering the problems Britain went through with Astute), making use of certain COTS components for the combat system and sonars. Los Angeles came along at the right time to be produced in large numbers, there were a other more capable alternatives like CONFORM in the late 1960s, or the APHNAS SSGN design and 1975 Advanced SSN design. I do generally share your opinion about larger SSNs being better, it's just that Los Angeles was probably overly technically conservative, and made a number of sacrifices compared to earlier SSN designs (most notably SUBROC, minelaying capability and most importantly if all for the Cold War, ELINT), and the deletion of the X-stern early on in the design process increased the likelihood of snap-roll.
Not a Bar Rescue story, but one of me and my family’s favorite restaurants (El Greco or something in Austin TX) got on Kitchen Nightmares (when for the most part the establishment was amazing. The little elderly Greek grandmother would come out and kiss my baby feet) and a few months after the episode was filmed, the restaurant closed because it had turned to shit because of the changes man. In closing, kill your local Gordon Ramsay lookalike to send a message
I presume putting caffeine power in the water you cook rice with would turn the rice into caffeine rice then you just make the Korean dish like normal with your caffeine rice
Oh the juche dasher didnt even make it to the plane, tsa (or some security acency) held them up because the detainee didnt have a ticket, and he bounced while his mp escort was arguing with the tsa agents.
I moved across the country to the east coast, and one of the things I was looking forward to was going to the Wawa because of this podcast, but i'm actually still 50 miles away from the closest one, which is a lot for a convenience store.
Regarding the North Korean Defection: It’s not as surprising to me. Four out of the five suicides I was aware will in uniform involved people facing dishonorable discharge. The military culture spends a lot of time tying your self worth to your ability to do your job. So when people end up facing a dishonorable discharge they often feel like their life is over. If this had happened State side and Travis had access to a firearm. I guarantee you he would have ended up as a suicide statistic. Instead he had access to North Korea. //gets down off soap box
While I can't speak for the bar, I can speak for Ruby Tuesdays being one of the two passably decent "fast casual" demographic of restaurants. The other one, for the record, is Delmonico's. Their entree fair is... okayish, but the real standout is their dessert cheesecake, which is A) legitimately delicious, and B) served in sizes that are like a solid foot tall. Also the only fast casual place I know of that allows chef prerogative rotating weekly dishes.
I once was on a swing set with some other kids and we all swang at exactly the same time until the posts of the swing set started coming out of the ground and the adults made us stop. lol
33:32 I studied civil engineering and I listened intently. I gained a slightly deeper appreciation for the term "abuttment" and was mildly disappointed that he didn't explain the abuttments were there to counteract the bending moment imparted by the cables to the towers.
This one is so close to home, I've cycled many times over the replacement Platt Truss bridge while going up/ down the River Irwell, also Rocz pronuciation of Broughton too funny !
@@yousufkazmi7842 dang, silly english place names. even more confusing is there's another broughton in cambridgeshire apparently, and i bet it's pronounced differently somehow
1:02:40 So how does a suspension bridge write a memoir? Also I would pay for a t-shirt that says "Its not a crime to get the lads together and go resonate a bridge"
Someone could invent green tea and whiskey...what's next? Put curry curry fried chicken with potatoes and vegetables in a "hot bag" call it Irish? Edit: I want this to be a thing in every city in the world. Have a hot bag and a Jameson green tea you will see
You are literally describing an Irish Chinese takeaway special called a "Spicebag" - chips, chicken, fried onions and peppers with a spice mix. Fuckin deadly so it is
«100 MAND KAN IEG BÆRE, MEN SVIGTER UNDER TAKTFAST MARSCH.» Aamodt[ɔmɔt] bridge crossing the Akerselva in Oslo. The bridge was moved to it's current location in 1957.
Just as I was getting ready to go to bed, POW, right in the kisser! Seriously, does anyone else have self control issues not watching WTYP the moment you see a new episode?
What if the fall was instead cloaked in ivy, covered in moss, and noticed by none save the birds and fishes of the river who scatter as the crumbing remant of a dead species gives up long after its builders have turned to dust?
Angers mentioned! It's pronounced an-jey but angers is funnier. That's where my dad grew up so I too experienced the frequent Dad fun fact, although from researching it now, France did prohibit soldiers from marching over bridges and the lieutenant-colonel leading the troops claims he commanded them to be at ease before crossing the bridge, so the failure may have had a different cause. I'm just looking at the wikipedia article here, but what it says is that it happened during a storm and as the bridge was swaying due to strong winds, the soldiers' efforts to keep balance by moving left and right along the swinging deck contributed to the stress and the rusty anchoring cables failed, dumping most of the troops into the river. I can't find the exact measurements of the old bridge, but the new one sits at about the same level and it's a 160 feet drop, it was during a terrible storm and reportedly many of the victims fell onto their bayonets or that of their comrades, all of which contributed to the huge difference in death toll.
As a proud graduate of North Carolina Agricultural and Technical State University, an 1891 land grant university and America's largest HBCU, I soooo wish KSM had gotten his engineering degree somewhere else. 😕
On the bright side, if you’re ever in an icebreaker situation that you don’t want to be in, you can use that as your fun fact about yourself and just obliterate the vibes in the room
27:00 Friendly reminder that studios give so little pay that it's not hard to find residual checks of -0.01 cents being sent to writers Also the fine was $100 because the companies run the government not the other way around
Slight correction: the quirked up white boy was not a white boy. The defected soldier, Travis King, is African-American.
I was about to comment this
Quircked up black boy busts it down, juche style.
This specific guy is a white boy in spirit
white enough
He Korean American now.
only the Broughton bridge can turn an army regiment into Marines in under 30 seconds
Lol
Excellent. *holds up a scorecard that says 8.5/10*
Be All That You Can Be. Including an afternoon as the soup-like precipitate of the Armed Forces branches. Army.
@@danielmcintyre9200 wet army is just marines
If Alice changes her name to November I'm going to commission her a sub-sona of a Soviet November class attack submarine.
Please do, i think we all need this
Have a Japanese novel writer started on her Isekai story too.
@@Soken50Title (pending approval): "That time I changed my name and became a Soviet attack sub in another world"
Like an aeromorph sort of thing or an entire regular-ass submarine?
Have you done so yet?
1:11:26 "It's not a crime to get the lads together and go resonate a bridge" Thank you, Devon
Really sucks listening to them talk about how Universal is screwed with regard to Tree Law knowing now that the fine was only $250.
Alice is correct at 23:03. One time I opened a beer and there was so much gender in it that it wasn’t even alcohol anymore, it was pure gender fluid.
Did that make you genderfluid
What was it assigned at brew?
@@jacobrzeszewski6527 None ya biz. 😂
“Last fella fucked this all up, gonna have to flush all this gender fluid and top it off”
oooo... it's bottled Nyannīchuan and/or Nannīchuan (google Ranma 1/2)
The thing about "these actors are millionaires" is that most members of SAG AREN"T millionaires. A lot of them are making less thant thirty thousand a year.
A lot of the demands of the strikers are better pay and working condition for smalltime actors, including such things as studios having to actually say whether a role has been filled or not(because studios would often keep auditions open despite filling the role just so they can get a bunch of info on more actors while wasting their time)
There are a bunch of actors who were mainliners in TV and movies in the '90s and 2000s that are now or for years were doing basic labour like landscaping and hospital coding. Sometimes once the show ends, the cast is typecast or considered toxic because the studios think the actors are too tightly intertwined with the identity of the show, meaning the actors never get work again (or at least don't get any for about a decade). The guy who played Harvey in Sabrina The Teenage Witch, Nate Richert, and the Brino brothers who played Sam and David and 7th Heaven are two good examples of that. The Brino brothers even got screwed out of royalties for legacy media sales of the show along with everyone else due to the CW consolidation and thus "renegotiation" of their contract with CBS.
Unless you're someone like Jennifer Aniston or Jim Parsons and carry the entire network on your show's back you're not making a lot of money long term. In fact sometimes the contracts are written so that you're paid in a way that puts you in a higher tax bracket and thus pay more taxes, but get less take home pay (like your contract being in nine month increments because that's how long a season takes to air, meaning if your show lasts beyond the first season you get paid twice in the first year and then shafted in the second). That's actually a big reason that SAG joined the current strike and aligned themselves with the '07 strike.
The majority are holding down more than one job, same with the writers.
@@midsyntax
Meanwhile, studio execs take home tens of millions per year in their stable desk job.
If they want to get rich, maybe they should make an engineering podcast...with slides
The worst part of the Anchor Brewing Co. case is that the workers offered to buy the brewery but Sapporo Breweries did not give them the time to do so. Could have been the latest entry in the tradition of "why don't we just buy the damn place?", where organized workers buy a "failing" business and operate it as a cooperative.
"Oh no the business made only 3% more than last year, thus disappointing our shareholders!" **Implodes** - capitalism
It's really a shame, the workers know how to brew the beer and could have done a fine job operating the company.
Without the parasites sucking out the wealth and mucking up the business with their incompetence and pettiness it's a lot easier to be profitable and functional.
I really wish Lintel's employees had done that and set up "Our Pillow". In the other half of his premises.
@@danielkorladis7869 Fuck Sapporo but they should just pool their money and make a brewery now. Nothing stops them.
Alice: "I'm tried of people getting my name wrong and making it more masculine."
Me: *awaiting the debut of podcaster Elizabeth Cuntsgood.*
F for all the Troops who are now going to have to attend mandatory training about why a Dishonorable Discharge is preferable to North Goddamn Korea.
My body is a machine that turns physical labor into a monthly patreon subscription so i can have suspension bridges be explained to me for the Nth time.
*and I'm so excited!*
Agreed, and same!
You just can't resist the RIGIDITY
Oh thank god, I needed a good old bridge fall down episode today.
In these trying times, we could all stand to take a break and appreciate a good old bridge fall
Bridge fall down Mr Bond
@@deeznoots6241”Tell me, does the toppling of English bridges really make up for having no hands?”
Do you think they should have simply made it more rigid, though?
I just woke up and thought it was an old one .Letts start at halphalf pi times string cheese over quantity sin
The Bar Rescue guy came to Piratz Tavern in downtown Silver Spring Maryland and changed this pirate themed bar into almost a literally corporate box. His thinking was the office workers that worked in the ofice buildings surrounding the bar would come hang out after work. Not understanding most people who in downtown Silver Spring dont live there so they go home and the bar failed. In fact the renovations hurt the bar more than it helped.
What a terrible plan on so many levels. Even if they lived there, why would they want to go from one box to another? Give me pirate bar any day.
@@benevolentworldexploder5395 exactly. The man had some good points, the food and service quality should have been improved. Not completely sterilize the place.
@@MAOofDC I mean, yeah, the drinks and food were pretty shit, but the weirdo pirate cosplayers were kinda fun.
Sounds exactly like Gordon Ramsay’s show, where he essentially does the same thing at every restaurant and then the vast majority of them fail within a year of the changes.
@@deeznoots6241 yeah they’re all functionally the same show
Happy birthday, Devon! Your hard work is deeply appreciated and your footnotes are a delight.
and honestly, where's the fun in not editing whilst high?
Devon rules. They're great
"It's not a crime to get the lads together and go resonate a bridge" got me good
Hap Birt, Devn!
I work near Albert Bridge, for a long time I thought the sign was meant out of respect to Prince Albert instead of structural integrity lmao.
Also the pub down the road has a sign "All troops must break step before marching into this alehouse"
All individuals must remove piercings before crossing this bridge
@@Altoclarinets I feel cursed knowing what this is a reference to, have your like and get out!
@@Soken50 Glad to be of ass(istance)
Devon: Roz's joke @ 16:08 was a reference to Otto Warmbier, the American who died in North Korean custody after trying to steal a DPRK flag and other "memorabilia"
Truly, the most "white boy" move you can make in North Korea
Thanks! I never would have figured that out on my own
also, if you didn't get the "beer summit" part, that was a thing Obama and Biden did in 2009 with (famous, black) Professor Henry Louis Gates and the white cop who arrested him for trying to break into his own house. It was a whole thing...
Thank you for the explanation; it will be assimilated into the captions in response to Devon's textual confusion. :D
@@PFMediaServicesyou rule
Hearing Alice pleading "make it more rigid" is mana for my brain
I believe the massive fine the studio got for murdering a bunch of trees was $250.
It was. According to the city law the first time offense is $250, no matter how many trees are included. I guess the take away is if you are planning on tree murder then you might as well make the most of it. It sucks, because I get why the first offense is so low. Like the logic is probably if someone doesn't realize that it is illegal then it's a fine that doesn't punish your lack of knowledge, but they clearly took advantage of this and the law should have leeway in redefining this incident since the motive was clearly antagonistic.
Yeah turns out the law was designed with the assumption that it would be just a rogue individual being overenthusiastic about trimming trees, rather than a massive company doing it to fuck over striking workers.
Someone should play baseball with the windows then
@@benevolentworldexploder5395 ugh that's so upsetting. if the trees die and the city has to replace them, I doubt they'll go through the expense of getting trees of comparative size/age and just put in a few spindly saplings and call it a day.
Actually it was just for the trimming. We're essentially at the stage where the victim is in hospital and we're waiting to see if it's an assault or murder charge. If the trees end up dying (which we won't know until the fall), it's replacement + one other tree.
32:43 “bumblebees shouldn’t be able to fly” in a mocking voice. You are more right to mock than you know, as it is now worked out how they fly. Microscopic hairs increasing the lift effect of the surface area of their wings.
You should do a bee episode. I know an up-and-coming guy you should get in.
Also their wings flap differently to birds, the old ‘bumblebees shouldn’t be able to fly’ was based on an assumption that they flapped their wings the same way birds do.
@@deeznoots6241 my other favourite recent bee debunk is a bit more abstract but amazing. Older literature assumes bees to have some sophisticated means we don’t understand to avoid flying into each other at the entrance to the hive. The increase in accessibility of high speed photography had modern researchers think maybe they could learn more about this. Turns out bees fly into each other all the time. They’ve even identified a particular buzz unique to just after a mid air collision. It’s unscientific to anthropomorphise - but also lots of fun - so I imagine the air filled with the buzzing of “whoops, sorry” “Scuse me” “mind how you go now”
You should consider doing an episode on the Dreyfus Affair.
It contains: The French, The Germans, massive systematic incompetence, false imprisonment, a scullery maid, anti-semitism, military goofiness, and a relatively happy ending.
It also has perhaps too much documentation. It’s perfect!
Ooh, yes! And maybe they could get Dr. Janega back, or have her recommend a fun historian who specializes in more modern history.
Ain't that also where j'accuse comes from
@@Altoclarinets Yes, an open letter written by Emile Zola declaring that he accuses the French government of antisemitism.
E: Somewhat related to the Dreyfus affair, "[President of France at the time Felix] Faure died suddenly at the age of 58 from apoplexy in the Élysée Palace on 16 February 1899, while engaged in sexual activities in his office on top of the presidential desk with the then 30-year-old Marguerite Steinheil." Ah, the French.
@@Altoclarinets I suspect someone had reason to use it before, at some point.
Not much engineering though.
I will never get tired of Justin explaining suspension bridges
"if you're captured in north korea and you're white you have a pretty good time of it."
well... I have some bad news about travis for you then...
I love how November was ACAT (Assigned Claire At Tumblr) and went "yes but no".
Hi Devon!
Fun Dilbert fact: Even Scott Adams hated the dilburrito despite it being his idea, so technically if anyone at all liked the energy Korean food it would be a more successful product
Did you also listen to the Behind the Bastards podcast about that guy?
Lol yes I did
The one failure in his life he DIDN’T blame on black people
Love those guys. Hated Scott Adams the more I got to know him. XD The Ben Shapiro book episodes are painfully hilarious too!
@@adamanthony3585 I'm still holding my breath for when Robert Evans comes on WTYP as a guest.
@10:40 Alice- "If you're captured or imprisoned in North Korea and you're white, you have a pretty good time of it..."
Oof. Yeah, there's a slight snag in that, Alice...
Alice -"...so maybe he's just having a good time there..."
Yeah, no... He's not...
He might be getting the more decent experience as he’s still an American service member and potential propaganda tool
He might instead be "having a good time" they way Liam typically means it.
He would probably add variety to the roster of Americans in N. Korean cinema
As unlikely as it is given the circumstances, I have a tiny glimmer of hope that they *are* going to use him as a propaganda actor, but in the context of “look how horrible Western racism is/was.” Which, y’know, would be a fair take, all things considered.
56:00 Almost any large group of 18-24 year olds could go “haha, this bridge is wiggling when we walk in step, can we wiggle it more?” The problem is simply that we taught this group how
You're marching across the bridge, having a great time with your mates, then all of the sudden you all fall into a physics textbook.
Devon at this point has me Pavlov-style conditioned to look at my phone screen every time I hear a pop in the audio because of this podcast. Now for everything, if I hear a pop of static I feel the urge to check for biting commentary, only then remembering that this is a different podcast that’s audio only.
"Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration..."
He then ran into North Korea.
Timestamps:
0:00:00 November Tummy Update
0:02:53 Intro
0:07:25 The GD News: Man Defects In Search Of Rocz's Computer Archives
0:16:21 The GD News: Rocz Beer Rant + Everything is Woke's Fault
0:25:19 The GD News: Couldn't Write a Dirtier Trick
0:32:20 Background: What was a suspension bridge again?
0:37:49 Background: Mechanical Resonance
0:48:18 Background: What is soldiers?
0:52:12 The Broughton Bridge
0:55:27 Bridge Fall Down
0:58:38 Aftermath
1:04:05 Other Problematic Bridges
1:17:02 Safety Third: Freak Accident Involving Nuke Rocket
Devon is editing high and I'm timestamping drunk. Go birds. Might update this later.
thank you!!
If anyone wants a fun Tree Law rabbit hole to go down this evening, look into the legal protections of Saguaro Cactuses, it's truly inspiring
Heard those have been collapsing in the heat.
In fairness, they're very slow-growing, require very niche circumstances to reach cactus puberty, are a keystone species, and can die from some dumbass using them for target practice (water loss). I'm very fond of the big green spiky bois.
@@jamesphillips2285 Seems to be centered in Phoenix. They had temps over 110 for a month and the monsoons are only just now arriving. Tucson hasn't been as bad but most established cacti take a long time to show signs of death.
As one of the people for whom Justin has explained suspension bridges a dozen times and gets excited every time, and is a Patron, you’re welcome! It’s half of why I come back each episode.
58:10 Alice's greatest work ever. "If you're not part of the precipitate, you're part of the solution". 🎉🔥
that's an old joke :P
I can't wait for Alice to change her name and replace spelling it with "yes, like the month" for the rest of all time
i go by gray and i just automatically say “gray, like the color” every time im asked my name
@@gray0014ah, but then you need to also explain whether it's the spelling with an A or an E. (I, especially would need such a reminder, since I change which one I use practically every time I write the word grey/gray)
@@maxwellrobertson4831 personally, i dont care how strangers/acquaintances spell my name. but the lore on it is that i spell my name with an "a" and the color with an "e". but tbh as long as someone gets the gist that my name is "gra(e)y" im totally fine with whatever
@@maxwellrobertson4831 honestly its a fun roulette to see how strangers will spell my name, with an e or an a
"I'm not worried about being demonetized, I'm worried about my mother yelling at me." - Me too, Brother.
28:18 The line I've heard is, "Brad Pitt (or whatever celebrity you like) is rich, but the person handing him his check is wealthy."
I heard it in a Chris Rock routine. I think he formulated it as "Shaq is rich but the white guy who signs his checks is wealthy."
I have covid, and a good fall down go boom bridge story is just what I needed. Hopefully it distracts me from slowly drowning in my own snot.
Brownscare is my favorite incontinence-themed podcast.
If they’re gonna blame unions then just make it a co-op and see if it also fails then. I don’t think it would.
According to another comment the workers wanted to but weren't given time.
Thank fuck my depression cure arrived just in time. Y’all have no idea how much this means today.
Love you guys
i hope you get the succ
WTYP is the ketamine of the masses.
I believe the clearance thing with the Millennium Bridge was for the view of St Pauls from the other bank. There are laws in London that say you need to have a clear line of sight to the dome of St Pauls from a few vantage points around the city which is why there are some rather funky shaped buildings there.
"You know there are a lot of people out there who are listening to you explain a suspension bridge to them for possibly the dozenth time in their lives and are excited by it"
Finally feeling seen by my close parasocial friend Alice
Ya'll have been a great comfort lately. I got sick from stress this spring and had to stop working for a while. I'm better now, but having a hard time finding appropriate employment. In my darkest hours, you three [Edit: And Devon, love you, too, bud.] keep me going, and I deeply appreciate it.
As a fellow former marching band player, there are several songs that override the “normal walking” portion of my brain
As a korean guy with an energy drink addiction, i would also love caffeinated bibimbap
With GOchujang
As a Bay Area listener, I truly appreciate you all devoting all that time to Anchor Brewing. Loss of an icon.
It wasn’t so much lost as it was arsoned
I've walked over the Albert Bridge many times while going to Battersea Park, and that sign do be making me nervous every time I see it. Like hey, cool, vibrations will absolutely fuck this bridge-- Let's proceed to walk across it in high winds while surrounded by cars and other people who are also walking, making little tippy taps on the bridge with our little feets. This is fine, but also, I have anxiety so no it's not.
Hearing the hosts explain bridges is like hearing Technology Connections explain the refrigeration cycle. Great every time, love to see it
Have we ever considered that a bridge’s natural state is to be a road?
Not this one, because this one's natural state seems to be "riverbed"
@@adams3627 what is a riverbed if not a road surface for water
@@adams3627 It can attempt to be both.
So nice to get another bridge collapse episode
@@adams3627 "At rest"
I heard the "Tree Law" fine came out to $250 USD, so... apparently not.
You would get a larger fine blocking off the street with parked cars.
Having jumped up and down on a suspension bridge many times before, I can't say I blame the soldiers for enjoying the bouncing bridge. All of my suspension bridge jumping occurred before any of the marching I've done in my life too.
Interestingly the Millennium bridge is similar to the Tacoma Narrows bridge in that the issue wasn't simply resonance. The wobble of the bridge caused pedestrians to shift their movements to keep balance which in turn excited the bridge even more, similar to the way aeroelastic flutter works.
As a trans woman whose name also begins with "Nov--," you should know that cis people will still be baffled by "November."
My life: "It's 'Nova,' N O V A."
"Nora?"
"No."
"Norma?"
"No."
"Norbert?"
"Oh, fuck OFF."
Like the sniper from Starcraft II?
Its sad when out trans woman caves to pressure. I want every trans person to achieve Chim and assert everyone else is a fake person and you're the only one who is real.
Emmalyn here. Thankfully most people just hear Emmaly, Though I have had one hear Emmaline. At least it's better than my assigned name, where the worst was 2 letters right of 5. I have no idea how they took Britt and got Chris... Bret, guilty myself. Brent, sure. Brick, I guess. Chris, WTF.
Did I meet you in a bar down in old Soho?
Maybe you'll get powers from Gamma Radiation and become Supernova
I think the max fine for the tree murder is around $250 for a first offender, regardless of the number of trees involved. I hope I'm wrong. Love your work!
Unfortunately you are correct
Tree murder requires replacement like for like (which is expensive). Unfortunately Tree harm that doesn't murder is only a minuscule fine
This was an excellent Alice/November episode. Just the best puns possible
hbd Devon, i assume they were talking about the Otto Cold (as opposed to Warm) Beer Summit. fun pun, a bit muddled.
as a D1 marching band kid i’m so excited that liam was a band kid and also that makes so much sense lol
But I now desperately want to know what instrument he was. Ten bucks says trumpet.
@@lyndonwesthaven6623I get low brass energy from Liam, maybe baritone horn.
"Sir! Did you pack this basement? Has it been under your supervision the entire time? Could someone have installed a nuclear reactor in this basement without your knowledge?"
I am here for my thirteenth lesson on what a suspension bridge. Thanks Alice
Almost as good as the Tacoma Narrows episode.
Always so delighted when a new wtyp drops. Thank you all for turning disasters into learning and (often) laughter. Yay Liam, hi Roz and hello whoever that woman is now.
Enjoy that WTYP knew straight away that Tekoi was for submarine launched nuclear missiles. While CGP grey after weeks of research and being on base didn't.
Hi. I'm one of those people who still gets excited by Rocz explaining how bridges work for the dozenth time. I really appreciate you doing that!
these are a livesaver for people with no friends on a sunday night so they don't cry themselves to sleep
also for the people who have insomnia for no apparent reason, yay liam
"Hook... I don't know the first name." My brain: "Captain." November, moments later: "Captain."
Ah. November and I are sharing a brain. That explain so much. *bangs frontal lobe with a cross-Atlantic-length broomstick* "STOP HAVING ANXIETY UP THERE! I NEED TO SLEEP!"
So glad to hear the return of Fat Man on Freakishly Heavy Bicycle.
Enjoying Alice's realization that she, too, can be a Dollhouse character.
I've had Taedonggang beer a few times at DPRK restaurants, and it's pretty good. Apparently it's popular in north east China as it's so much better than domestic beer.
Taedonggang beer is brewed in what used to be the Ushers brewery in Wiltshire, England
We are once more at a place where a bridge suffered a catastrophic loss of rigid
Huge fan of November. First class of Soviet nuclear submarines. For the first decade of them in service it was assumed they were probably similar but slightly inferior to the first US nuclear submarine in performance, I.E. could probably hit around ~25 knots in an emergency. Then in the late 60s one of them trashed the USS Enterprise in a drag race all the way up to 31 knots. Which made the navy shit itself so hard it made the Mk48 and the Los Angeles class
The Mk 48 was a response to the Alfa-class.
The Los Angeles was, however a response to the Novembers, and was originally intended to be a fleet support submarine, with another design called CONFORM intended to perform other SSN tasks. Rickover killed CONFORM because the Los Angeles (and it's reactor, an adapted D2G for submarine use) was his pet project, in spite of CONFORM being a potentially superior design (deeper diving, more advanced sonars and almost as fast).
@@forcea1454 Mk48 ADCAP was developed in response to Alfa. Base model entered service to combat 'current' Soviet submarine threats when 'current' meant Victor I and November, it was only a year after the first Alfa and you can't design the Mk48 from scratch in a year.
While Rickover was a huge asshole and CONFORM was killed for stupid reasons, I'm unconvinced in retrospect CONFORM would have been better, mainly because of the record of the Alfa. Generally speaking, SSNs are better when they're larger, although obviously you can't just keep making them bigger forever and keep getting benefits. A small, highly advanced, deep diving, fast, and heavily automated submarine was exactly what the Alfa was supposed to be, and to its credit it was very successful, with a genuinely remarkably advanced set of features for its time (fully automated target identification, tracking, and engagement, and fully automated torpedo room, among other things). But it was too expensive, too fragile, and generally just had more tradeoffs than it was worth. The Soviets went on to make Sierra and Akula, which used much of the tech from the Alfa but refocused development on making a large, robust, and quiet platform, and they were spectacularly successful. And what the Sierra and Akula were to the Alfa, it's always to me felt like the LA and Virginia were to the CONFORM.
While Rickover was in the wrong in his actions and in general, in hindsight I think we blundered into a better submarine somehow at his behest
@@thegenericguy8309 CONFORM was going to be between the size of a Sturgeon and Narwhal, not as small as an Alfa.
Virginia isn't really comparable to the Sierra or Akula, it's essentially a post-Cold War design intended to maintain the submarine manufacturing base (not a bad idea, considering the problems Britain went through with Astute), making use of certain COTS components for the combat system and sonars.
Los Angeles came along at the right time to be produced in large numbers, there were a other more capable alternatives like CONFORM in the late 1960s, or the APHNAS SSGN design and 1975 Advanced SSN design.
I do generally share your opinion about larger SSNs being better, it's just that Los Angeles was probably overly technically conservative, and made a number of sacrifices compared to earlier SSN designs (most notably SUBROC, minelaying capability and most importantly if all for the Cold War, ELINT), and the deletion of the X-stern early on in the design process increased the likelihood of snap-roll.
Denny’s is the best family restaurant chain. Japanese Denny’s is also great!
Also, happy birthday, Devon!
Not a Bar Rescue story, but one of me and my family’s favorite restaurants (El Greco or something in Austin TX) got on Kitchen Nightmares (when for the most part the establishment was amazing. The little elderly Greek grandmother would come out and kiss my baby feet) and a few months after the episode was filmed, the restaurant closed because it had turned to shit because of the changes man.
In closing, kill your local Gordon Ramsay lookalike to send a message
57:31 I know it was just a mis-speak but I absolutely love the phrase 'alarmed by a loud-sounding something'
I presume putting caffeine power in the water you cook rice with would turn the rice into caffeine rice then you just make the Korean dish like normal with your caffeine rice
Oh the juche dasher didnt even make it to the plane, tsa (or some security acency) held them up because the detainee didnt have a ticket, and he bounced while his mp escort was arguing with the tsa agents.
I moved across the country to the east coast, and one of the things I was looking forward to was going to the Wawa because of this podcast, but i'm actually still 50 miles away from the closest one, which is a lot for a convenience store.
Regarding the North Korean Defection: It’s not as surprising to me. Four out of the five suicides I was aware will in uniform involved people facing dishonorable discharge. The military culture spends a lot of time tying your self worth to your ability to do your job. So when people end up facing a dishonorable discharge they often feel like their life is over. If this had happened State side and Travis had access to a firearm. I guarantee you he would have ended up as a suicide statistic. Instead he had access to North Korea.
//gets down off soap box
Also doesn’t a dishonorable discharge prevent you from alot of opportunities such as VA coverage and prevents you from purchasing a firearm?
I'm only 4 mins in, and I'm already trying desperately to not laugh so loud I wake up my housemate at 4 am when she has to get up in 3 hours.
Thank you everyone for another hopefully insightful and fun episode. Thank you Devon for editing this monster for release :-)
Devin back at them with the best punchlines of the episode.
While I can't speak for the bar, I can speak for Ruby Tuesdays being one of the two passably decent "fast casual" demographic of restaurants.
The other one, for the record, is Delmonico's. Their entree fair is... okayish, but the real standout is their dessert cheesecake, which is A) legitimately delicious, and B) served in sizes that are like a solid foot tall. Also the only fast casual place I know of that allows chef prerogative rotating weekly dishes.
So Alice is becoming November Terra, the other Ghost from StarCraft?
I once was on a swing set with some other kids and we all swang at exactly the same time until the posts of the swing set started coming out of the ground and the adults made us stop. lol
My eyes went so wide as soon as I heard mechanical resonance, my special interest!
33:32 I studied civil engineering and I listened intently. I gained a slightly deeper appreciation for the term "abuttment" and was mildly disappointed that he didn't explain the abuttments were there to counteract the bending moment imparted by the cables to the towers.
This one is so close to home, I've cycled many times over the replacement Platt Truss bridge while going up/ down the River Irwell, also Rocz pronuciation of Broughton too funny !
as a brit, i'm gonna guess "broffton"? if i'm wrong, they should change it
@@Not--All--Thatt it's pronounced something like brought-on, northen english always confuses those from the south, so Alice would not notice !
@@yousufkazmi7842 dang, silly english place names. even more confusing is there's another broughton in cambridgeshire apparently, and i bet it's pronounced differently somehow
1:02:40 So how does a suspension bridge write a memoir? Also I would pay for a t-shirt that says "Its not a crime to get the lads together and go resonate a bridge"
the dramatic pause of "...roz?" before the commercial break... good one Devon
Happy birthday [belated], Dev!
Mary Shelley was often misgendered. Misgendering was the monster, Frankenstein was just the name of the book they did it with.
“you mean Dr. Misgendering’s Monster”
@@littlebirdsword [waggles eyebrows]
Someone could invent green tea and whiskey...what's next? Put curry curry fried chicken with potatoes and vegetables in a "hot bag" call it Irish?
Edit: I want this to be a thing in every city in the world. Have a hot bag and a Jameson green tea
you will see
Isn’t fried curry chicken and vegetables in a bag just British Chinese food
You are literally describing an Irish Chinese takeaway special called a "Spicebag" - chips, chicken, fried onions and peppers with a spice mix. Fuckin deadly so it is
when I got sick in grad school, instead of seeking medical attention, I'd just have a hot green tea with whiskey. I didn't die, so that's nice.
«100 MAND KAN IEG BÆRE, MEN SVIGTER UNDER TAKTFAST MARSCH.» Aamodt[ɔmɔt] bridge crossing the Akerselva in Oslo. The bridge was moved to it's current location in 1957.
Just as I was getting ready to go to bed, POW, right in the kisser!
Seriously, does anyone else have self control issues not watching WTYP the moment you see a new episode?
Same
same, I should be asleep but I cannot help myself
i actually usually like to wait a week or two just so the news isnt as fresh. im a sucker for bridge episodes tho
What if the fall was instead cloaked in ivy, covered in moss, and noticed by none save the birds and fishes of the river who scatter as the crumbing remant of a dead species gives up long after its builders have turned to dust?
Angers mentioned! It's pronounced an-jey but angers is funnier. That's where my dad grew up so I too experienced the frequent Dad fun fact, although from researching it now, France did prohibit soldiers from marching over bridges and the lieutenant-colonel leading the troops claims he commanded them to be at ease before crossing the bridge, so the failure may have had a different cause. I'm just looking at the wikipedia article here, but what it says is that it happened during a storm and as the bridge was swaying due to strong winds, the soldiers' efforts to keep balance by moving left and right along the swinging deck contributed to the stress and the rusty anchoring cables failed, dumping most of the troops into the river. I can't find the exact measurements of the old bridge, but the new one sits at about the same level and it's a 160 feet drop, it was during a terrible storm and reportedly many of the victims fell onto their bayonets or that of their comrades, all of which contributed to the huge difference in death toll.
The philosophical magazine is still around! It's a physics journal
Posting until we have an episode where Alice is informed smoking makes the lungs more rigid.
As a proud graduate of North Carolina Agricultural and Technical State University, an 1891 land grant university and America's largest HBCU, I soooo wish KSM had gotten his engineering degree somewhere else. 😕
On the bright side, if you’re ever in an icebreaker situation that you don’t want to be in, you can use that as your fun fact about yourself and just obliterate the vibes in the room
Alice seems the type who would add the little metal tabs that drill teams use make the clickity clack sound to her boots.
27:00 Friendly reminder that studios give so little pay that it's not hard to find residual checks of -0.01 cents being sent to writers
Also the fine was $100 because the companies run the government not the other way around
Happy birthday, Devon! Glad you're editing high.