Well There's Your Problem | Episode 55: Kursk Disaster

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  • Опубліковано 14 лип 2024
  • today we talk about russia
    The LLBD Episode recommended by Liam at 0:17:25 is Episode 34.
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    Captions (Provided by user Mickulty)
    0:00:00 Setup
    0:02:06 A Podcast With Slibes
    0:02:38 WTYP Will Never Have Chapters, Alice Can't Do Transcription
    0:03:57 Intro
    0:06:02 The GD News: Climate Change Still Bad
    0:09:00 The GD News: Rocket Fall Down
    0:12:05 Context: Early Submarines
    0:18:48 Context: Nuclear Submarines
    0:22:07 Context: Submarines in The Cold war
    0:25:35 Context: Torpedoes
    0:27:40 Context: Thiccest Soviet Submarine
    0:35:00 Context: Effect of Capitalism on The Red Fleet
    0:39:03 Context: Post-Soviet Russian Leadership and Exercise Summer X
    0:43:26 Context: HMS Sidon and HTP
    0:48:36 Torpedo Stuff, Open Hatch
    0:52:58 11:29am and 34 seconds
    0:57:00 Effect on Nuclear Reactor
    0:57:53 Bad News: Some People OK
    1:02:25 Meanwhile, On The Surface
    1:08:50 Context: Potassium Superoxide
    1:11:46 Emergency Oxygen Cannisters
    1:15:26 International Aid
    1:21:17 Rare Putins
    1:28:38 Recovery and Human Cost
    1:33:58 Safety Third: Magic Headache Pizza Oven
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 980

  • @dubspool
    @dubspool 3 роки тому +726

    Clearly the issue with the Kursk was that the front fell off.

    • @geoffgreen2105
      @geoffgreen2105 3 роки тому +75

      Is that typical?

    • @musclecat1005
      @musclecat1005 3 роки тому +66

      No, not really

    • @alexroselle
      @alexroselle 2 роки тому +52

      ex-Soviet submarines are disposed of by towing them outside the environment

    • @robspecht9550
      @robspecht9550 2 роки тому +24

      @@alexroselle what’s out there?

    • @nicholasbradshaw
      @nicholasbradshaw 2 роки тому +46

      @@robspecht9550 Sea, and birds, and fish... and 20,000 tonnes of crude oil... and a fire... and the part of the ship that the front fell off... but there's nothing ELSE out there!

  • @wworsey954
    @wworsey954 3 роки тому +808

    >torpedo is called fat
    >torpedo is a dummy
    >tfw u have a dummy thick torpedo

    • @rubywest5166
      @rubywest5166 3 роки тому +62

      Hnnng Colonel, I’m dummy thicc and the clapping of my ass cheeks sunk a Russian submarine

    • @cobaltwerewolf
      @cobaltwerewolf 3 роки тому +19

      now this is the kind of comment I like to see

    • @forkstaf1918
      @forkstaf1918 2 роки тому +5

      420 likes nice

    • @Whammytap
      @Whammytap 10 місяців тому

      666 likes now! :D

  • @TheScorpionStrike
    @TheScorpionStrike 3 роки тому +727

    The soviet submarine with the swimming pool on it was the Typhoon class, a stupidly big but awesome ballistic missile carrier vessel that's basically five small submarines strapped together in a single outer hull. You could genuinely do a WtYP episode on soviet sub designs in the style and to the length of the gulf state vanity projects episode. Highlight for me are the Alpha class, which were tiny, highly automated, and stupidly fast. They were fitted with molten lead-cooled reactors, which would freeze solid if you let them get too cold, so the Alphas needed port facilities that could keep their reactors hot. The Soviets built like seven of them and none of the requisite port facilities, so the subs had to keep their reactors running at all times in order to not brick themselves.

    • @mokinokaro
      @mokinokaro 3 роки тому +33

      The Akula has a pool too. Guess it was just a trend in 80s Russian subs.

    • @MrFlibblelv2
      @MrFlibblelv2 3 роки тому +70

      The Akula and the Typhoon are different names for the same sub.

    • @mcamp9445
      @mcamp9445 3 роки тому +44

      They were also to loud to let their own sonar detect anything. Fast and blind

    • @JZG13
      @JZG13 3 роки тому +49

      Confusingly, the Soviets called what NATO calls the Typhoon class SSBN Project 941 Akula, while there’s a separate class of SSN that NATO calls the Akula (seemingly deciding that they got bored with the phonetic alphabet naming system) which the Russians call Project 971 Shchuka-B

    • @mor4y
      @mor4y 3 роки тому +31

      The channel "Sub Brief" does really good breakdowns of all the common worldwide subs, and it's run by a ex-US sonar operator. A gem of a channel ;)

  • @dukenukem8381
    @dukenukem8381 3 роки тому +497

    my father(who is is from soviet union) always told me that Khusrchev's shoe thing is about being too fat . The thing is that it is difficult adjusting your shoe while fat, so Khrushchev started his tirade while adjusting his shoe and was caught in the moment of pure socialist Khrushchev-splaining to the UN.

    • @itsmannertime
      @itsmannertime 3 роки тому +71

      He's spot on, Khrushchev mentions that little tidbit in his autobiography. Next time you're talking to some running dog of the yankee imperialists, give it a try. You'll be glad you did.

    • @plushifoxed
      @plushifoxed 3 роки тому +15

      do you think khrushchev had drip

    • @paulmasoner8073
      @paulmasoner8073 3 роки тому +6

      I love that the DUKE NUKEM account is here. I played that series so much as a kid, until I got tired of waiting for that one - havent played any since then.

    • @AliceYobby
      @AliceYobby 3 роки тому +8

      @@paulmasoner8073 it's not the official duke

    • @Crowborn
      @Crowborn 2 роки тому +27

      @@AliceYobby I'm pretty sure it is, his name is Duke Nukem after all

  • @awesomelyshorticles
    @awesomelyshorticles 3 роки тому +595

    For as much as alice regularly interruptsin all other circumstances, shes incredibly good at keeping pace as a presenter. Let her do more of this!

    • @cracklingvoice
      @cracklingvoice 3 роки тому +38

      Agreed. It's a nice change to let different members of the show run an episode.

    • @Yootzkore
      @Yootzkore 3 роки тому +70

      *taps head* can't interrupt the presenter if you're the one presenting!

    • @something.1
      @something.1 2 роки тому +10

      Yaa, She's a queen of the show 😄

    • @kurtpena5462
      @kurtpena5462 2 роки тому +9

      If Alice hosts, then she cannot interrupt Roz.

    • @slowburgundyy574
      @slowburgundyy574 Рік тому +40

      Interrupting men is simply reparations

  • @mkepioneet
    @mkepioneet 3 роки тому +431

    Former engineer (former thanks to America's response to the pandemic) in the commerical food service equipment industry and I support the hell out of the requirement for CO detectors

    • @matriarch4882
      @matriarch4882 3 роки тому +46

      Former food service employee (former thanks to Murica's response to the pandemic) and I also support the hell out of the requirement for CO detectors. If my old boss who was barely making ends meet can afford CO detectors in his restaurant, surely a national chain can.

    • @maybemablemaples2144
      @maybemablemaples2144 2 роки тому +17

      @@matriarch4882 former food service worker. We almost died due to a CO2 leak from one of our burners that a detector probably would've caught so I too support this.

    • @justinokraski3796
      @justinokraski3796 Рік тому +3

      Former process engineer (former thanks to the rampant antivaxxer stance of blue collar workers) in the paper industry

  • @viniciusdesouzamaia
    @viniciusdesouzamaia 3 роки тому +278

    "It had a swimming pool .... eventually" has to be the most cursed bit in 55 episodes of this show. And it cracked me up.

    • @a_lethe_ion
      @a_lethe_ion 3 роки тому +7

      now superceded by the German homogenization machine

    • @Deimonik1
      @Deimonik1 5 місяців тому +1

      Did you crack up as much as the Kursk?

  • @JoranGroothengel
    @JoranGroothengel 3 роки тому +236

    Speaking of exploding whales, ever heard of the Oregon whale carcass demolition? They tried to blow up a rotting whale with dynamite and ended up coating the entire beach and parking lot in massive chunks of rotting whale flesh.

    • @biggle_man
      @biggle_man 3 роки тому +24

      50 year anniversary was a few months ago, they remastered the footage ua-cam.com/video/V6CLumsir34/v-deo.html :D

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 3 роки тому +18

      I think we've all seen the exploding whale. It's so emblematic of humanity.

    • @christophervanerp1133
      @christophervanerp1133 3 роки тому +2

      @@biggle_man yea im not watching that.

    • @atn_holdings
      @atn_holdings 3 роки тому +23

      the first few seconds feature roz's browser with several Something Awful tabs open in Chrome and you ask if he's heard of the exploded whale?

    • @xalrath
      @xalrath 3 роки тому +36

      @@biggle_man the best part is that the guy who originally took the footage was DELUGED with requests for it, and he had a strict policy of telling anyone who said they wanted it for scientific/strategic/whateverthefuck noble justification to fuck off
      you only got his whalesplosion footage if you were honest about the fact you just wanted it because you thought it looked cool

  • @dkbmaestrorules
    @dkbmaestrorules 3 роки тому +166

    Milo's various voices absolutely made this episode.

    • @miche1df
      @miche1df 10 місяців тому +2

      I've listened to this a half-dozen times and I've ended up cackling at his Trump impression every single time

    • @dstarr8222
      @dstarr8222 6 місяців тому

      @@miche1df 100%! Both in content and in tone

  • @chad3232132
    @chad3232132 2 роки тому +45

    In 1994 Yeltsin was in Philly, wandering around the streets at night drunk in his underwear, trying to wave down taxis. He screamed at Secret Service agents when they found him. The day after, he very nearly snuck out yet again, being detained by the Secret Service, who mistook him for a homeless intruder. This sort of thing happened *all the time* with Yeltsin. The guy was a legend at sneaking past both his own security details and the Secret Service.

  • @ElizabethHolmesFan
    @ElizabethHolmesFan 3 роки тому +225

    Depressing stuff, it's a tragedy here ever since it happened. It's like a wound. Just pointless and every time it's brought up the country hurts. Thank you for talking about it, funnily enough despite being a raunchy comedy podcast you still manage to sometimes outline the gravity of what happened like in your Bhopal episodes. So hope to listen to your coverage of Kursk soon. Thank you for making this.

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 3 роки тому +13

      My condolences to Russia.

  • @Randomstuffs261
    @Randomstuffs261 3 роки тому +335

    Kursk wasn't really a disaster, submarines are supposed to be underwater - that's the whole point of a submarine. The fact that it imploded and was lost with all hands is secondary and therefore irrelevant. Thus the Kursk was a success, not a disaster.
    #DestroyedWithFactsAndLogic

    • @deeznoots6241
      @deeznoots6241 3 роки тому +77

      It was built to blow things up and it blew things up, great success

    • @KJamesMellick
      @KJamesMellick 3 роки тому +15

      It didn't implode. The front exploded, and the back 2/3 just sank, in the classical sense.

    • @Randomstuffs261
      @Randomstuffs261 3 роки тому +41

      @@KJamesMellick So you're saying it was 2/3 successful

    • @musclecat1005
      @musclecat1005 3 роки тому +4

      Just like SN8 and SN9

    • @pmcgee003
      @pmcgee003 3 роки тому +1

      @@Randomstuffs261 lmfao 🤣

  • @IDontUseThisForAnything5338
    @IDontUseThisForAnything5338 3 роки тому +240

    So, anyways! Submarines kinda tweak a particular neuron in my weird obsessive dork brain, so here's a couple additional details for y'all:
    -The tiny drill on the Turtle was actually to create a hole in which to stick a bomb, so it wasn't *quite* as dumb as it seems. However, when the guy who made it actually attempted to go sink a British ship with it, it turned out that the ship's hull was clad with copper plates, which honestly was not uncommon at that point and he really should have expected it.
    -If you count the fact that the Hunley sunk immediately after torpedoing the Housatonic (and yes Alice I caught your Lovecraft joke there :P), it actually killed *three* of its crews. Also, fun fact, Hunley himself was part of the second crew that got killed. Both the first two crews died because the thing sank in a lake while they were testing it out. Also, the torpedo spar that it rammed into the Housatonic was fired by a pull cord on a reel. The idea was the sub would back up far enough to be safe and the cord would go taut, detonating the torpedo. They think, though, that the reel got jammed before they were at the full range and detonated the torpedo accidentally, and the blast was enough to start dumping water into the Hunley, which set up a feedback loop of water goes in ->sub sinks lower -> more water goes in -> GOTO 10.
    There you go! Enjoy! I'm sorry!

    • @PobortzaPl
      @PobortzaPl 3 роки тому +20

      That's a very BASIC joke you made.

    • @pmcgee003
      @pmcgee003 3 роки тому +6

      They should have linted out GOTO.

    • @evamiller4886
      @evamiller4886 3 роки тому +4

      Because ship worms were such a common problem a lot of ships were built with either copper plating or a secondary hull under the water line. The idea of using a hand crank drill in the apple to punch through either two layers of hull planking or sheet metal is pretty ridiculous

  • @fyrefox45
    @fyrefox45 3 роки тому +197

    Not even two hours, slacking this week

    • @uilsoum875
      @uilsoum875 3 роки тому +34

      wtyp: "yeah sorry this episode ended up really long"
      us: "moar pls"

    • @alfalafelstine1536
      @alfalafelstine1536 3 роки тому +12

      6 hour podcast when?

  • @Discotekh_Dynasty
    @Discotekh_Dynasty 3 роки тому +154

    Oh cool, I didn’t know Milo was a submarine engineer. Suppose it does make sense though, he’s small enough to clean out the torpedo tubes

    • @stupititykills
      @stupititykills 3 роки тому +25

      I hate to be that guy and ruin your joke, but torpedo tubes are between 533mm-650mm (21 in-25in) in diameter, and are so even non-fun sized people are perfectly capable of getting up inside them.

    • @WaterMan416
      @WaterMan416 3 роки тому +16

      Can confirm, 5'9" 195 pound guy me climbed into a torpedo tube and kissed the muzzle door while getting blasted with a fire hose for my shellback ceremony.

    • @anarchomando7707
      @anarchomando7707 3 роки тому +1

      @@WaterMan416 shellback?

    • @WaterMan416
      @WaterMan416 3 роки тому +9

      @@anarchomando7707 it's what you become when you cross the equator on a ship. Most sailors do a goofy ceremony that is part weird and part disgusting, where the shellbacks initiate the uninitiated. In the past, it was sometimes violent and a form of hazing, but these days it's usually just a morale boosting activity. One key thing is you get "baptized" with sea water, hence the fire hose. There's also golden dragon, for crossing the 180th meridian, golden shellback for crossing the 180th and equator at the same time, emerald shellback for equator and prime meridian, and a bunch of other things. American sailors, mainly submariners, also do order of the blue nose for crossing the arctic circle.

    • @anarchomando7707
      @anarchomando7707 3 роки тому +2

      @@WaterMan416 that how you spell it(I knew of the basic concept but I did not know how to actually spell it

  • @kevinjohnson3203
    @kevinjohnson3203 3 роки тому +226

    if alice is de-syncing over that time frame, she might want to check her record sample rate. could be that she is at 44.1 and the rest are at 48 (or a multiple thereof) or vice versa.

    • @queenkjuul
      @queenkjuul 3 роки тому +76

      I came all the way back to this video to thank you, because I read your comment two weeks ago and then just now realized that this was why my audio would end up out of sync after a couple hours when streaming or recording from my HDMI capture card. OBS and my output were running at 48, but that specific input was recording at 44.1. so thank you!

    • @kevinjohnson3203
      @kevinjohnson3203 3 роки тому +21

      @@queenkjuul always nice when the comments section goes right!

    • @OlafoWaffle
      @OlafoWaffle 3 роки тому +11

      I believe she's playing the long game to get them to give up and have Nate produce their podcast. This is not for altruistic reasons, but annoy Nate with Philly accents and mispronunciation of words that makes Joe from LLBD's sound like Will Lyman.

  • @a.gravemistake3061
    @a.gravemistake3061 3 роки тому +123

    Alice taking pains not to mis-gender the submarine

  • @tinycrimester
    @tinycrimester 3 роки тому +151

    "You fool! Now we shall both surely perish!", cried Trump. "Why would you do that?"
    "Lol", said Putin. "Lmao."

  • @birkobird
    @birkobird 3 роки тому +148

    Episode suggestion: The Granville Train Disaster, the deadliest rail incident in Australian history. Featuring a locomotive that caused 2/3 of all the accidents its entire class had in their lifetime, a driver with an unpronounceable name (unless you are Polish), a train headbutting a bridge, and liquefied human.
    As far as I know, the coroners report can be borrowed from the NSW State Library, and there's a few documentaries on the disaster as well.

    • @johannageisel5390
      @johannageisel5390 3 роки тому +9

      Trains headbutting bridges are always bad. Just look at the Eschede derailment, which seems to have some things in commong with the Granville one. Namely the carriages getting flattened by a collapsing bridge.

    • @deeznoots6241
      @deeznoots6241 2 роки тому +10

      The bridge should have got out of the way

    • @opbrah
      @opbrah 2 роки тому +8

      To be fair most Australian bridges are also improvised can openers for trucks and things of that nature. The Montague street bridge in Melbourne is a great example of that.

    • @kyleshape8645
      @kyleshape8645 Рік тому +4

      After the incident, they did away with the support piers for the replacement bridge by making it _more rigid_ .

  • @reyaty93
    @reyaty93 3 роки тому +183

    Best guest ever on this podcast. Haven't laughed so hard at an episode in a while.

    • @cGoryeo
      @cGoryeo 3 роки тому +12

      I'd still put Mia Mulder at no.1 but Milo just nails the attitude and the accent

    • @DaL33T5
      @DaL33T5 3 роки тому +22

      Milo's range of impressions is glorious and his Trump bit (42:40) had me in stitches!

    • @Madhouse_Media
      @Madhouse_Media Рік тому +2

      He's pretty good in this but he's even better in the Nedelin disaster episode.

  • @JsD200186
    @JsD200186 3 роки тому +50

    Fuuuuck me, the idea of being trapped in the cold dark, for three days, while the air goes bad by slow degrees is a whole 'nother kind of awful

    • @TheMrVengeance
      @TheMrVengeance 3 роки тому +5

      Yup, there's a horror movie set in exactly that setting, and it's the only horror film that still haunts me to this day.

    • @ScotSteam47
      @ScotSteam47 3 роки тому +3

      Don't forget the absolute pandamonium of halfway through that a fire starts ON the water you're in...

  • @ra_benton
    @ra_benton 3 роки тому +87

    Drawing that face on the sub was a wonderful, hilarious touch.

    • @Bakamoichigei
      @Bakamoichigei 3 роки тому +5

      I alt+tab'd away for a minute, and when I came back that had magically appeared... I promptly burst the hell out laughing. 😂

  • @Zizzily
    @Zizzily 3 роки тому +158

    Well, I had a heart attack on Monday and I just wanted to say that the pod is probably the best thing that has happened to me in the hospital. If you ever have a testimonials section, you should add that.

    • @taylorleibel4327
      @taylorleibel4327 3 роки тому +15

      Oof, hope you're okay man, feel better!!!

    • @viniciusdesouzamaia
      @viniciusdesouzamaia 3 роки тому +16

      They can say that it's now a prescription heart medication.
      Get well!

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 3 роки тому +9

      Here's hope for a good recovery.☺️

    • @pokeguy742
      @pokeguy742 3 роки тому +21

      Looking for a reason to listen to 2 idiots and an engineer ramble for 90+ minutes about Capitalism? Introducing WTYP! WTYP is easy! Fun for the whole family! Hand stitched from 100% natural dye-free hemp! Biodegradable! And, even, cancer-free! Just look at these testimonials!
      "... I had a heart attack..."
      -a furry

  • @Stjaernljus
    @Stjaernljus 3 роки тому +67

    Reporting saftey issue. Manager angry. Manager yells at safety representative. Manager yells at everybody to continue. Classic.

  • @gbso692
    @gbso692 3 роки тому +53

    "We can kind of see the limiting factor here, and that is that it requires eight dudes cranking hog in order to move the thing."

  • @eskiwhat68
    @eskiwhat68 3 роки тому +122

    Ah yes, the classic "Lefty-locky, righty-relaxy" strategy.

    • @mackenziejames7427
      @mackenziejames7427 3 роки тому +7

      AvE says, "righty tighty, lefty loosey, except when it isn't"

    • @jb03hf
      @jb03hf Рік тому

      It is common in pumbing - it ensures that your main is not connected to your sewer... unless you like gas buildup.
      Also it is on some parts in which the action of the part would natrually put pressure in the direction of the loosening - if you inverse the threads - you can have this action tighten the join.
      The soviets actually used a principle of this with water pressure in their Amphiba diver watches - as the water pressure increases, the case presses in on a large gasket - and the dome of the crystal presses onto the watch face and into rhe case. This means that at surface pressures the watch is the least water proof, and until the crush depth, it actually becomes tighter and tighter.

    • @quantumblur_3145
      @quantumblur_3145 9 місяців тому

      ​@@jb03hfthat just sounds like waterproofing with extra steps

  • @jacobedward2401
    @jacobedward2401 3 роки тому +116

    "It's much easier to understand Russia once you realize their foreign policy is based on trolling"
    Paraphrasing, but that does make a lot of sense.

  • @KerbalRocketry
    @KerbalRocketry 3 роки тому +106

    Milo continues to build on the theory that every TrashFuture host is actually a foreign intelligence agent

  • @adscranton96
    @adscranton96 Рік тому +62

    Watching this in preparation for the next Goddamn News about the gamer billionaire titanic sub

    • @vianiealvarez
      @vianiealvarez Рік тому +2

      cAME UP IN MY RECCOMENDEDS CAUSE O THAT SHI

  • @zechsblack5891
    @zechsblack5891 3 роки тому +36

    I worked for a small gay wedding cake bakery and cafe for a number of years. It was small and barely profitable, but the owner was also extremely cheap and a little on the hoarder side of things.
    To save money in the summer or winter we were not allowed to run the hood system. He would keep the doors closed so the cold or warm air from the dining room didn't get wasted on the kitchen.
    On one side of the building in the strip was a pottery company that would set their kilns to fire over night when they left at 5pm. There was a leak that resulted in us being able to smell the thick kiln exhaust in our kitchen and basement store room. CO may be odorless but CO rich air seems to have a few traits that are common to it. It smelled like a furnace dump pipe. This happened at least every Friday.
    The one other cook and I kept getting headaches and feeling shitty. We figured we just needed to not get so stoned before work or it was because the kitchen was 117f thru the summer months.
    After a day or two I figured out we were getting CO poisoning but put up with it for months.
    Eventually my gf secretly reported my boss to osha because she was tired of me complaining about getting sick. She even sent them pictures I'd taken inside showing the temps, closed door, and good switches off that I'd sent her when bitching about it on night.
    He didnt reply to their fist letter so they fined him 1000 dollars.
    They showed up a month later outside business hours, bought his excuse about that being why the hoods were off, and made him replace a 15 dollar fan belt that was squeaking. That was it.
    There was also like holes rotten thru the floor of this place in constantly damp areas.
    Now, in a business with 4 total employees, the anonymous quality of the osha report wasn't really helpful.
    I took the blame and quit so my coworker didn't get blamed.
    They never investigated the pottery company.

  • @deeznoots6241
    @deeznoots6241 3 роки тому +73

    Kinda sad that after the ‘and there has been no problems in the russian navy since’ there wasn’t a slide of their mobile dockyard burning down

    • @deeznoots6241
      @deeznoots6241 2 роки тому +18

      …or their flagship getting sunk by a single Ukrainian missile lmao

    • @gratuitouslurking8610
      @gratuitouslurking8610 2 роки тому

      Sadly a bit too early for it to just be written down 'Russian warship, go fuck yourself.'

    • @q3st1on19
      @q3st1on19 Рік тому +7

      @@deeznoots6241 simply the latest addition to russian submarine forces

    • @xmlthegreat
      @xmlthegreat 2 місяці тому

      ​@@q3st1on19 Lol okay this one takes the cake

  • @raycearcher5794
    @raycearcher5794 3 роки тому +55

    The torpedo is hollow like in The Spy Who Loved Me, but instead of James Bond there's an old Japanese Fisherman inside who pops out to harpoon the whale

    • @joshuahadams
      @joshuahadams Рік тому +1

      Imagining evil Sulu doing that in the Mirror version of Star Trek IV now.

  • @jacksonhoppis
    @jacksonhoppis 3 роки тому +137

    Yes exactly enough time to listen this before and during my class

    • @deyahatesyou
      @deyahatesyou 3 роки тому +1

      ayy wwu i dropped the fuck outta there lmao

    • @popular_dollars
      @popular_dollars 3 роки тому +1

      Wait a minute. Jackson Hoppis, with a Bellingham flag? im pretty sure our parents IRL are friends. small world.

  • @CommieGIR
    @CommieGIR 3 роки тому +68

    Don't forget when you accidentally start your diesel engine underwater and it BURSTS EVERYONES EAR DRUMS.

    • @MrJohndoakes
      @MrJohndoakes 3 роки тому +7

      ....Or how about German Kriegsmarine U-boat schnokel accidents where the pipe got plugged and the MAN diesels blew the line to keep sucking in air, so the crew was subjected to an astronaut training-style loss of air pressure incident for a few seconds until the motorman killed the engines. Are we talking about the same thing? www.uboat.net

  • @TickTockTimeTraveler
    @TickTockTimeTraveler 3 роки тому +28

    Russians were seriously afraid of the EU getting into their weakaf sub and exclaiming "damn b/tch you live like this"
    Fantastic episode!! New favorite.

  • @KurikuShoTto
    @KurikuShoTto 3 роки тому +54

    "It's operable in a Sylvia Platt's sense' is a really underappreciated but fucking crazy dark joke haha

    • @geoffreygriffiths1385
      @geoffreygriffiths1385 3 роки тому +2

      Did some googling, made myself sad. Thanks.

    • @KurikuShoTto
      @KurikuShoTto 3 роки тому +5

      @@geoffreygriffiths1385 if you ever feel like being sad, her book "The Bell Jar" is amazing

  • @benoitbvg2888
    @benoitbvg2888 3 роки тому +47

    No matter how unrelated each subject is to France, roz will always find a way to snark "hon hon hon" in each one.
    Really looking forward to the "hon hon hon" in upcoming Tacoma narrows bridge episode.

  • @martinn.6082
    @martinn.6082 3 роки тому +12

    The Kursk was one of the first disasters I experienced on the news as a child. It was so stressful watching the news like "they tried and failed to rescue them again, today! But the guys in there are still knocking on the door from the inside! Don't worry, they're trained to save oxygen!" And little child me was horrified at all this. How do you just lie in there trying not to breathe too much? And then, at some day, the knocking stopped and apparently, all chambers were filled with water. That really screwed with my head a few days. Still haunts me.

  • @uilsoum875
    @uilsoum875 3 роки тому +56

    dudes in a submarine: i'm about to make the whale explosion in florence look like a fucking firecracker

    • @Amy-dq2lg
      @Amy-dq2lg 3 роки тому +2

      The whalesplosion

  • @prjndigo
    @prjndigo 3 роки тому +36

    Safety Third: Remember, as long as the dead bodies aren't in the way or crucial to production they are NOT a 'lost time accident'.

    • @tabula_rosa
      @tabula_rosa 3 роки тому +12

      shout out to that time a coworker of mine was told to go ask a customer to have their dog on a leash in the store and got shot in the face for it, and before anyone administered any aide or instructed anyone to go get medical aide a manager grab the badge off of the dying man, handed it to me & told me to go clock him out.

    • @dynamicworlds1
      @dynamicworlds1 3 роки тому +11

      @@tabula_rosa **rubs eyes**
      What
      The
      Fuck?

  • @thecatwithatophat4069
    @thecatwithatophat4069 3 роки тому +61

    Alice: "... diving bells."
    Me: Yes Alice, we already had an episode about why diving bells are bad.

    • @musclecat1005
      @musclecat1005 3 роки тому +17

      That was a good episode to decompress to.

  • @AceHawk37
    @AceHawk37 3 роки тому +22

    Alice, as a Kansas City native, your condolences are greatly appreciated in these dark and trying times.

  • @strega1380
    @strega1380 3 роки тому +47

    Putin nurturing an image of himself as a late-to-every-party it girl makes sense somehow.

  • @darthbob88
    @darthbob88 3 роки тому +87

    Last time I was this early, the Tacoma Narrows Bridge was still up.

    • @amytysoe2292
      @amytysoe2292 3 роки тому +7

      the bridge or the episode?

    • @oiman5733
      @oiman5733 3 роки тому +20

      @@amytysoe2292 yes

  • @NinjaAgnostic
    @NinjaAgnostic 3 роки тому +31

    The soviets/russians were pretty good at vacuum tubes later on. They're still sought after in the tube rolling markets.

    • @tomhsia4354
      @tomhsia4354 3 роки тому +17

      Also, they were good at camera lenses. The cheap (but *VERY* well-built) Helios-44-2 has a cult following, the Helios-40-2 is sought after for its crazy swirly bokeh, the Jupiter 37A and Jupiter 11A are ludicrously sharp 135mm lenses, the Jupiter-21 (both the A and M variants) is a tack-sharp 200mm tank that is more than sharp enough for modern high-res cameras, the Tair-3s Photosniper is probably the best 300mm vintage lens there is (weight be damned), the Tair-11A has heavenly bokeh, the Industar-69 is a tiny wide-angle lens that's fun to use, etc. QC was not great (I got only one dud, which isn't that bad), but good copies are objectively very good.

    • @heartache5742
      @heartache5742 2 роки тому +1

      @@tomhsia4354 i got a really heavy "tair" lens from my dad and i can confirm, they made some good lenses

  • @freeparking301
    @freeparking301 3 роки тому +26

    If Pepsi would’ve gave away these warships in the 90s by saving enough Pepsi points I’d be dead from diabetes.

  • @connorhoyle2926
    @connorhoyle2926 3 роки тому +27

    My grandfather had a mysterious unplanned meeting overseas when this happened. He was an "engineer" for the government.

  • @CommieGIR
    @CommieGIR 3 роки тому +20

    Typhoon class missile subs have a small pool, gymnasium, etc.
    The joys of having two separate hulls, gives you lots of space.

    • @MrJohndoakes
      @MrJohndoakes 3 роки тому +6

      They would run those bastards at FIVE KNOTS with ONE SCREW just to be THAT MUCH MORE QUIET....under THE ICEPACK! The Soviets, for all their failings elsewhere, were MASTERS of undersea engineering.

    • @WaterMan416
      @WaterMan416 3 роки тому +2

      I mean, our ballistic missile subs also do 5 knots with one screw to be really quiet, plus some other cool stuff I'm not sure is classified so I won't talk about it.

    • @mokinokaro
      @mokinokaro 3 роки тому +1

      Akula's supposedly do too. Just seems to have been something the navy wanted when possible.

    • @MrJohndoakes
      @MrJohndoakes 3 роки тому

      @@WaterMan416 Like slipping Navy SEALs out of the torpedo tubes to do all sorts of commando badassery underwater?

    • @WaterMan416
      @WaterMan416 3 роки тому +1

      @@MrJohndoakes ballistic missile subs don't deploy seals to my knowledge. I think some of the refit ssgns repurposed a missile tube to do that. And the ssns did that beforehand and still do.

  • @pamdemonia
    @pamdemonia 3 роки тому +18

    I simply adore the way British people say "glacier". Just putting it out there.

  • @kenjisakaie6028
    @kenjisakaie6028 3 роки тому +32

    Reminds me of the heady days of Sputnik and Yuri Gagarin when the world trembled at the sound of our rocketsshh. And they will tremble again, at the sound of Milo's silly accents.

    • @caphalor08
      @caphalor08 2 роки тому +5

      The 'I do renovation' had me in tears.

  • @EirikGaratun
    @EirikGaratun 3 роки тому +31

    Milo’s Norwegian accent was fucking perfect.

  • @CaelanAegana
    @CaelanAegana 3 роки тому +9

    I have memories as young person frustatedly yelling at my parents because turn right or left are perspective-dependent; clockwise is rightward over the distal part of the handle and leftward on the proximal side, and also reverse with the orientation of the threaded piece. Neither of them had ever thought about it.

  • @g--stef4756
    @g--stef4756 3 роки тому +14

    Fun fact regarding alligators, steamboats, and shallow water: there used to exist a class of amphibious vehicle referred to as an "alligator boat", a type of steam tugboat used for logging. They operated in North America and Canada and were equipped with a flat bottom and winch, which they'd use to pull themselves across beds of logs to move between lakes, where they'd work by moving the logs about.
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alligator_boat

  • @HaecVir
    @HaecVir 3 роки тому +31

    Glad I stuck around to hear about the Safety Third, because it reminded me it's been 9 days since I requested a new carbon monoxide alarm from my landlord, after the last one started doing the 'replace me' beeps. ps good podcast

    • @dogvoter6473
      @dogvoter6473 3 роки тому +1

      the good news is now you dont have to pay rent.

    • @HaecVir
      @HaecVir 3 роки тому +1

      @@dogvoter6473 Why's that?

  • @SofaKingShit
    @SofaKingShit 3 роки тому +16

    One of my absolute favorite channels to chuckle along with whilst learning through the examples of other people's tragic calamity. Shit l think l really might need help.

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 3 роки тому +1

      If you need help, better get it. 👍

    • @SofaKingShit
      @SofaKingShit 3 роки тому

      Can you fight? If you don't live near the Rif Valley and don't want to fight I guess I better help myfuckingself. Thank fuck no one reads these comments. Son my security guard finished work early today and I run around threatening folks myself. Sucks. Exploitation on all sides except I'm a communist employer so hopefully it ain't much.

  • @PrfColdheart
    @PrfColdheart 3 роки тому +10

    0:45 the gun-to-the-head reading of "people told us to count him out" really sells it.

  • @mysteryshrimp
    @mysteryshrimp 3 роки тому +12

    I discovered your podcast about three weeks ago. I caught up this morning.
    I drive for a living. This stuff happens.
    My wife is an engineer, and occasionally I'll point to the screen and say "this one's about the _____". She usually groans or rolls her eyes.
    The Osprey episode got the biggest response.

  • @mishkamcivor409
    @mishkamcivor409 3 роки тому +45

    "No, NATO submarines know where they are going"
    Yeah until they crash into other NATO submarines in the middle of a vast ocean

    • @MrJimheeren
      @MrJimheeren 3 роки тому +12

      Like that time a English nuclear submarine had a small collision with a French nuclear submarine (or the other way around)

    • @JZG13
      @JZG13 3 роки тому +7

      Or crash into a rock like the USS San Francisco

    • @cracklingvoice
      @cracklingvoice 3 роки тому +3

      Or hit an underwater mountain

    • @musclecat1005
      @musclecat1005 3 роки тому +13

      They know where they are going. They just don't know where all the other NATO subs are going.

  • @troyzweber9876
    @troyzweber9876 3 роки тому +31

    Exploded whales: the horse viscera of the sea.

    • @deeznoots6241
      @deeznoots6241 2 роки тому +4

      Only dynamite can reduce a whale to a soup-like homogenate in under 20 minutes

    • @joshuahadams
      @joshuahadams Рік тому

      @@deeznoots6241 unfortunately for the guy so set it off, no it can’t. The roof of his car was caved in by a hunk of whale.

  • @melpomeneb-smith3955
    @melpomeneb-smith3955 3 роки тому +18

    it's weird hearing Milo mixed different, absolutely did not realise who séa was initially

  • @frederf3227
    @frederf3227 3 роки тому +30

    Now "help I'm trapped in a podcasting factory" is literally in the transcription of the episode. This is very boy cries wolf territory.
    The difference between is with Hammond is crashed vehicle causes brain damage. In Musk's case it's the reverse.
    The submarine drill was to attach the demolition charge. Drill, light fuze, charge on a rope attached to drill bit, pedal away, boom.
    "A nice excursion" turns out to have been "an ex-Kurskan".

  • @jasonlaug
    @jasonlaug 3 роки тому +22

    Listening to this instead of studying for my drexel engineering midterm, I feel like it's a good use of my time

  • @AlRoderick
    @AlRoderick 3 роки тому +15

    Putin actually believes himself to be early for everything, but no one has the guts to tell him clocks go the other way.

    • @KentonBenfield
      @KentonBenfield 3 роки тому +4

      Could this be related to the confusion as to which way the delicate sub hatch is to be turned?

  • @packr72
    @packr72 3 роки тому +16

    “Hello I’m Submarine Kursk and my pronouns are they/them”

  • @briancunningham483
    @briancunningham483 3 роки тому +14

    You missed or skipped over how the sub was recovered. A Dutch contractor actually sawed off the bow using a long abrasive cable that looped under the sub and back to the ship on the surface that powered the cable loop.

    • @LB1973
      @LB1973 2 роки тому +1

      Not quite it was diver operated

  • @jamestwomey9713
    @jamestwomey9713 3 роки тому +33

    "nato submarines know where they're going"
    except for that one they crashed into a mountain

  • @unistrut
    @unistrut 3 роки тому +7

    In IGNITION! John D Clark says something along the lines of "it would be quicker to list the things that high test peroxide doesn't explosively decompose with..." The Soviets had a couple of rocket motors explode because someone used the wrong solder on part of the gas generating system (that used H202).

  • @danielpotts7462
    @danielpotts7462 3 роки тому +20

    More Milo, more Russian. Every episode. And the Nedelin Disaster.

    • @loaf8506
      @loaf8506 3 роки тому +5

      boy do i have good news for you

  • @Poctyk
    @Poctyk 3 роки тому +20

    33:51
    >What happened to Kursk?
    "It sank"

    • @atn_holdings
      @atn_holdings 3 роки тому +2

      "the floatation of the kursk has evolved not necessarily to the boat's advantage"

    • @misham6547
      @misham6547 Рік тому

      Well it is a submarine

  • @FieryRedmond
    @FieryRedmond 3 роки тому +29

    The real disaster was getting this video uploaded amirite

  • @tomrijnberg7358
    @tomrijnberg7358 3 роки тому +15

    The pepsi story is an urban legend though. They never actually received the ships.

    • @jb03hf
      @jb03hf Рік тому +3

      They did own the ships for the moments it took to sign the contracts to send them to the scrap yards who paid them for the metal in a proper currency.

  • @VegasLounge
    @VegasLounge 3 роки тому +6

    The Kursk is one of those stories that objectively I find fascinating but just can't watch anything about. I'm old enough to have Waco, Oklahoma City, TWA 800, Columbine, 9/11 all in my formative-years memory bank but I remember following the Kursk story as it happened and hoping, as everyone did, that the sailors could be saved. The idea of being trapped, knowing you are going to die, leaving messages for loved ones...that is the stuff of nightmares.

  • @biedisunizlietne
    @biedisunizlietne 3 роки тому +28

    Joking about torpedoeing Soviet-affiliated whales is all fun and games until you remember that the Russian Navy actually has a number of trained whales

  • @mrboomward
    @mrboomward 3 роки тому +18

    Roc was on point with the John Madden this episode.

  • @mothman807
    @mothman807 3 роки тому +23

    Fuck yeah, been waiting for milo to be a guest

    • @atn_holdings
      @atn_holdings 3 роки тому +5

      milo: says something in russian
      me, who doesn't speak russian whatsoever: hell yeah

  • @mijmirg88
    @mijmirg88 4 місяці тому +2

    That crankshaft joke was criminally underappreciated

  • @whyshipssink6126
    @whyshipssink6126 3 роки тому +4

    If we're talking about HTP, you've got to mention the fact that a few people tried to use it to propel submarines, not just torpedoes. In theory, HTP subs could run at high speeds underwater for fairly long periods with traditional diesel fuels. The only problem was that they might explode if seawater got in. The Germans started it in WWII, with a guy named Hellmuth Walter, who produced a few experimental subs of the Type XVII class. In 1945, the RN captured one, and named it HMS Meteorite. She was soon deemed to be only 75% safe, and replaced with two new boats, Explorer and Excalibur. These recieved the nicknames 'Exploder' and 'Exciter' respectively, and, while they were very fast, were soon abandoned due to the risks. Everyone else went for much safer methods like nuclear reactors.

  • @JoeMitchell2
    @JoeMitchell2 2 роки тому +4

    Y’all might joke about a Soviet sub named for landlocked Smolensk, but every time I visit the VA I walk past a picture of the USS Asheville, a nuclear-powered fast attack submarine currently in service with the US Navy.
    Asheville is located in the mountains of North Carolina. The closest thing to the sea here is the French Broad River which is like 20 feet deep at maximum and is hundreds of miles from the ocean and hundreds of feet in elevation above it. It might not be *more* landlocked than Smolensk, but it’s definitely pretty damned close.

  • @ThePorpoisepower
    @ThePorpoisepower 2 роки тому +2

    I think the 'proper' way to 'hit' a ship with a torpedo isn't to hit it directly but for it to explode just under it's keel, as the resulting air bubble displaces the water supporting the keel from underneath. The Keel then snaps and the targeted boat sinks much faster than if merely had a huge chunk blown out of i.

  • @IslandHermit
    @IslandHermit 3 роки тому +6

    Well, it only took 55 episodes, but I've finally warmed up to Alice. Even tempted to try out Trash Future. And it has nothing at all to do with horse viscera.

    • @atn_holdings
      @atn_holdings 3 роки тому

      trash future is quite good. riley knows how to crack the whip. truly the will menaker of the commonwealth

    • @alicecaldwell-kelly9530
      @alicecaldwell-kelly9530 3 роки тому +4

      thanks

  • @thekiteleyexperience
    @thekiteleyexperience 3 роки тому +4

    I know the drop for safety third is “shake hands with danger”, but I’ve always heard “safety is the danger” and been mildly confused and amused

    • @chancekahle2214
      @chancekahle2214 3 роки тому +1

      I hear it that way half the time. I don't know why either.

    • @TheGreatPurpleFerret
      @TheGreatPurpleFerret 3 роки тому +1

      I have exclusively heard "safety is the danger" and you've blown my mind

  • @jclementine3371
    @jclementine3371 3 роки тому +7

    When you mentioned oxygen generator canisters, Valujet flight 592 immediately came to mind

  • @Maj_Kasul
    @Maj_Kasul 3 роки тому +3

    Listened to this on podcast. Came to UA-cam for the slides. ❤️👍🔥

  • @GigasGMX
    @GigasGMX 3 роки тому +17

    I feel like this would have been a good week to bring back “Welcome to Well There’s Your Problem, a podcast about engineering disasters which is itself a disaster “

  • @reidwallace4258
    @reidwallace4258 3 роки тому +16

    I'll donate to the Lada fund if you promise to podcast from it.

  • @kainhall
    @kainhall 3 роки тому +8

    20:26 the squared off nose is actually faster underwater.....
    .
    like, the only reason they had a normal "ships bow" was because they were surface ships that COULD go under water (for short periods)
    when you have a nuke.... ya just stay under water 24/7
    .
    this is why modern SSN's are actually faster when under the water.....
    ya might get 20 knots on the surface
    but can do like 35 knots at 300 meters deep

  • @schnoodle3
    @schnoodle3 3 роки тому +5

    Actually Khrushchev brought an extra shoe with him intending to use it as a prop. There is a photo showing him with both shoes on while waving the extra prop shoe.

  • @StarlightSocialist
    @StarlightSocialist Рік тому +4

    "Conn, Sonar. Contact Sierra-One classified as . . .Biologic . . .bearing zero-seven-three."
    "Torpedo room, Conn. Snap shot bearing zero-seven-three. Shoot tube three."
    "Shoot tube three, aye sir."
    (Torpedoing a whale, according to the game Cold Waters)

  • @RobJaskula
    @RobJaskula 3 роки тому +6

    I have a Soviet OKEAH watch (mechanical, hand wound) from the early 80s and it keeps great time! Had it serviced when I got it and it's been reliable for years since

    • @jb03hf
      @jb03hf Рік тому

      I have Vostoks and Rocketas... they are wonderful. And Putin wears swiss ones anyhow - he is just an ass.

  • @dukenukem8381
    @dukenukem8381 3 роки тому +11

    "One boom only Vasily"

  • @zombieraddish
    @zombieraddish 3 роки тому +6

    The Blue Meanie theory is actually pretty solid. Putin did have that Time interview back in the aughts where he said The Beatles were his favorite band. That being said, I actually think Ringo just went up the Kursk and sank it with the hole in his pocket

  • @1lovesoni
    @1lovesoni Рік тому +2

    There are actually multiple reports of submariners fishing. Especially during WW2. Modern subs aren't really designed with portholes that you'd want to open often at sea, but fishing from older US subs and U-boats was absolutely a thing.

  • @toddschriver9924
    @toddschriver9924 2 роки тому +5

    If only those women had torn Putin apart... It would have saved everyone a lot trouble later

  • @GreatgoatonFire
    @GreatgoatonFire 3 роки тому +5

    I remember being to a talk given by the Russian Ambassador to Sweden held by the Foreigner Policy Club of Uppsala University. Some nut bag started screaming about the Kursk sinking during the QnA.

  • @christophervanerp1133
    @christophervanerp1133 3 роки тому +4

    The drill you guys pointed out on the first sub was actually used to attach a time bomb (called the torpedo then) to the enemy hull.

  • @biffyqueen
    @biffyqueen 11 місяців тому +1

    "Solving the lighting issue" reminded me of a table top I was in where we were fighting this creature in the dark and my character caught fire and I was like "I'm lighting up the room! Kill it before I fall over!"

  • @mrboomward
    @mrboomward 3 роки тому +15

    Under 2 hours! Smh what a let down.

  • @dukenukem8381
    @dukenukem8381 3 роки тому +8

    It was the dammed cook who did not want to see Montana.

  • @OldKing2
    @OldKing2 3 роки тому +1

    Speaking of stuck to the ceiling
    .. SL1 accident "One technician was blown to the ceiling of the containment dome and impaled on a control rod. His body remained there until it was taken down six days later."