Well There's Your Problem | Episode 137: Willow Island Cooling Tower Collapse

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  • Опубліковано 14 лип 2024
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    CHAPTERS (compiled by Mickulty)
    00:00:00 Rocz's Novel Archival Plan
    00:01:33 Intro
    00:06:11 The GD News: Lawless Bus Hellhole
    00:14:57 The GD News: Nothing Good Comes From Planes
    00:23:50 Background: What Is Coal Power?
    00:27:30 Background: What and Why Is Cooling Towers
    00:37:40 Pleasants Power Station 1
    00:38:45 Background: Concrete
    00:42:40 Pleasants Power Station 2: Van Halen Forming
    00:47:46 Time Pressure + Rocz Says A Date
    00:53:07 Immediate Aftermath
    00:56:12 Long-Term Aftermath
    01:06:41 Safety Third: TA vs Unsanctioned Nitrogen Triiodide
  • Наука та технологія

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  • @rileynibhroin6395
    @rileynibhroin6395 11 місяців тому +649

    UNESCO Troops would rock, just imagine a UNESCO AC-130 about to obliterate a Sparkling Winery for calling it Champagne

    • @deatheragefarms
      @deatheragefarms 11 місяців тому +62

      Italian paratroopers straight war criming the Cheeseman's house for posting a vid.

    • @SnausageKing
      @SnausageKing 11 місяців тому +54

      Basically a make work program for French and Italian war criminals

    • @merobo5066
      @merobo5066 11 місяців тому +3

      I for one like my perfectly functional bridge

    • @freeaudiojungle4407
      @freeaudiojungle4407 11 місяців тому +17

      if you want to know more about this concept just google "obama kunduz hospital"

    • @thompkins6796
      @thompkins6796 11 місяців тому +24

      Finishing La Sagrada Familia. By force.

  • @paulb.7998
    @paulb.7998 11 місяців тому +230

    Re: The Popcorn story. The main reason why I didn't tell it is that it's not really a Safety Third story, just a "don't find out how the sausage is made" story. When I worked as a movie concessions guy, the way we cooked popcorn was to dump a large cup of uncooked kernels into the popper, along with about a third of a cup of oil each time (not sure about the amount, they just had a big and small cup you filled both and dumped them in). The popper was not cleaned between pops, because that could take awhile (taking the damn thing apart and washing the bits in the dinky sink they had provided concessions, then getting it back together) so there was no time with shows starting about every 15 minutes. You popped at bunch at open, and we would need to pop more popcorn every half hour or so from noon matinee till last show at 10. Pretty quickly the repeated dumps of oil had made a burned sludge all along the inside, and by 8 the popcorn would strongly taste of it. I was told by the old hands that when that started to happen to stir the new and old popcorn around so that the new stuff (hot but tasted of burned oil) and the old stale stuff was thoroughly mixed, then put as much fake butter on it to cover the flavor. At close whoever drew the short straw had to take a scour pad and food grade degreaser and scrub the pan in very hot water as we didn't have a basin large enough to soak it so it was pure elbow grease.

    • @bobsmith2637
      @bobsmith2637 11 місяців тому +17

      Thanks! I'm not a fan of popcorn but hot dogs are one of my favourite foods, I just make sure to fully cook them and pretend to not know where they come from lol. I hope Devon sees this and pins it.

    • @TalkingSoup
      @TalkingSoup 11 місяців тому +22

      oh damn i was certain that the popcorn story was gonna be about the presence of rats or cockroaches. this one's pretty damn bad too tho

    • @MazHem
      @MazHem 11 місяців тому +13

      honestly I'm less disgusted by the burnt popcorn sludge and more disgusted by the butter

    • @Neuttah
      @Neuttah 11 місяців тому +26

      So, you're saying the oily gunk carbpuff snack machine even got cleaned daily?
      Honestly, I expected worse.

    • @paulb.7998
      @paulb.7998 11 місяців тому +23

      @@Neuttah I mean, we only had so much stale popcorn to mix it with before it just tasted 100 percent of biodiesel. We had to make what we mixed it with 12 hours beforehand or people would complain.

  • @whoever6458
    @whoever6458 11 місяців тому +90

    When poor people die, society doesn't care. When really poor people die, it's usually because society pushed them to their death. When I was homeless, some damn yuppie called the cops on me on two different occasions sitting in the shade trying to survive the summer heat. The cops came and forced me to move. On one such occasion, I moved and ended up losing consciousness due to heat stroke at another location. Presumably I don't have to tell you why no one called anyone when I was lying in the grass unconscious. Luckily, it was just starting to cool off when that happened and I woke up feeling extremely ill at like 1 am.

    • @whoever6458
      @whoever6458 11 місяців тому +37

      All this calling the cops on me because I was homeless is because people don't want to see homeless people and we're not allowed to use the community areas even in the middle of the day. I imagine if I had been in a suit or fancy clothes, no one would have called the cops no matter where I sat or how long I sat there but, no, they could tell I was poor and so they called the cops.

    • @Tomartyr
      @Tomartyr 7 місяців тому +5

      @@whoever6458 Yup the mental dissonance is crazy. People say shit like "homelessness is a choice" (it's not) and that's somehow meant to justify banning them from public spaces.

    • @alylu-to-esutej
      @alylu-to-esutej 6 місяців тому +7

      My dad complains about homeless people asking for money on the side of the road and I always explain to him how hostile America is to homeless people and how difficult it is to get a job once you become homeless

    • @piccalillipit9211
      @piccalillipit9211 4 місяці тому +3

      @@alylu-to-esutejIve been homeless but thank God it was in Europe [Bulgaria] so people helped me which meant it didnt last very long.
      Being poor in the US seems to be seen as a moral failing.

  • @willmills-cz4er
    @willmills-cz4er 11 місяців тому +217

    Cement is like glue. Hence, concrete is the particle board of rock.

    • @seventeenpoint5
      @seventeenpoint5 11 місяців тому +31

      Cement is to concrete what eggs are to cake
      Which I learned when I had insufficient eggs and baked a lovely bunch of crumbs 😂
      My dad is an engineer and schooled me early and often about cement vs concrete to the point where I started correcting everyone around me. One day I started to correct my dad only to catch myself. If he said cement, he probably did mean cement 😝

    • @lightwaves1859
      @lightwaves1859 11 місяців тому

      thus reinforced concrete is a fiber composite material.
      ABOLISH REBAR!

    • @KurtisHord
      @KurtisHord 11 місяців тому

      Almost. Portland cement is indeed, trash. It was invented by horrible capitalist. It took over craft practices by 1900. The rest of human history: we created “cement” by burning lime at 900 degrees for 4 hours, converting it to calcium oxide. It was then slaked with water and mixed HOT with poz agents and stuff to Create the “concrete”. It was never lost. Practiced in the lands of Talmud before Christ., and in France and Germany during the “dark” ages. It was never Roman.

  • @ungiebungie
    @ungiebungie 11 місяців тому +268

    "I thought that bit would land a little better"
    Spoke straight to my soul

    • @johnobrian566
      @johnobrian566 11 місяців тому +5

      All of Justin's bits good in this one.

    • @mrshlee
      @mrshlee 11 місяців тому +14

      "I thought that bit would land a little better" - Liam's Law.

    • @_allegra
      @_allegra 4 місяці тому +1

      "I though that bit would land a little better"
      - Boeing engineer

  • @jasmijnwellner6226
    @jasmijnwellner6226 11 місяців тому +182

    "Keep the corpse on the plane, we're making it to Amsterdam"
    Classic Liam.

    • @carinafreeman6432
      @carinafreeman6432 11 місяців тому +12

      Yay Liam!

    • @thomasgiles2876
      @thomasgiles2876 11 місяців тому +11

      "Don't like your options? Ive got an egg sandwich of uncertain providence with your name on it"

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 11 місяців тому +2

      Well, you can't open the cargo doors and throw out corpses in flight.
      ...As darkly funny as the consequences of that could possibly be.

    • @eleSDSU
      @eleSDSU 11 місяців тому +3

      ​@@grmpEqweer well not with that attitude.

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 11 місяців тому +1

      @@eleSDSU
      True, we can always try.

  • @mrwaterplant
    @mrwaterplant 11 місяців тому +189

    idk if devon will see this, but if one of y'all could pass it to them that'd be much appreciated: DO NOT be sorry for being on holiday and the episode being late, absolutely take your vacation my liege

    • @imsmolandangery4274
      @imsmolandangery4274 11 місяців тому +21

      Late means nothing on this podcast and Devons holiday beens the world

  • @Shulwelld
    @Shulwelld 11 місяців тому +202

    “They did that shit to Jesus” was one of the best jokes of the episode

    • @Min-ke6zc
      @Min-ke6zc 11 місяців тому +17

      Yeah that killed me instantly (unlike Jesus, whose death had a frankly excessive runtime)

  • @devinfaux6987
    @devinfaux6987 11 місяців тому +208

    Ah, a classic "that's not supposed to be there" opening. Been a while since we got one of those.

  • @XoxSkateLoverxoX
    @XoxSkateLoverxoX 11 місяців тому +142

    Re: scotch on the plane: my dad once asked for a whiskey neat, and the kid running bar had no idea what they meant, and FILLED a tumbler to the brim with Jack

    • @nekolalia3389
      @nekolalia3389 11 місяців тому +93

      wrong island iced tea

    • @RedwingBB
      @RedwingBB 11 місяців тому +70

      "It would be neat if you just gave me all the whiskey, thanks"

    • @LifesNeverHumDrum
      @LifesNeverHumDrum 11 місяців тому +55

      That’s pretty neat

    • @adams3627
      @adams3627 11 місяців тому +34

      Good lad

    • @kabobawsome
      @kabobawsome 11 місяців тому +48

      To be fair, if there wasn't any ice, technically that is still a whiskey neat. Just a lot of it.

  • @sunyavadin
    @sunyavadin 11 місяців тому +91

    Alice's death memorialised using a stack of copies of The Guardian in the shape of J.K. Rowling

    • @capsjukebox
      @capsjukebox 11 місяців тому

      Is Ben Shapiro the virgin we put in the middle of it while Morris dancing around it?

    • @zyavoosvawleilte1308
      @zyavoosvawleilte1308 11 місяців тому +2

      One of those eternal flame memorials that runs on Guardian articles

  • @JoeyCarb
    @JoeyCarb 11 місяців тому +257

    Pseudo-archaeologists in the year 4023 will be convinced we were too dumb to build these and it could only have been aliens.

    • @stanislavkostarnov2157
      @stanislavkostarnov2157 11 місяців тому +12

      4023... you are an optimist!!!!

    • @Pheonixco
      @Pheonixco 11 місяців тому +10

      Psuedo-achaeologist AI, you mean.

    • @MK.5198
      @MK.5198 11 місяців тому +6

      in a way, this just IS true. We ARE too dumb to just agree we should build them.

    • @SubRosaFlorens
      @SubRosaFlorens 11 місяців тому +2

      Aliens in the year 4023 will be convinced we were too dumb to build these, and instead think it could only have been other aliens.

    • @jakx2ob
      @jakx2ob 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Pheonixcosounds like something from Rimworld that is trying to kill you

  • @tabula_rosa
    @tabula_rosa 11 місяців тому +61

    i worked at a power plant, those cooling towers sound like a tornado when they're running. it's unsettling too, because the structure it's coming from is so big & so far away you'd think any sound it makes would be very identifiable but it genuinely isn't, the sound sort of diffuses off of everything around it so you very quickly go from being far enough away you can't hear it to suddenly it sounding like whatever is making the noise is surrounding you or you're inside of it, even tho ur like hundreds of meters away from it

  • @bobsmith2637
    @bobsmith2637 11 місяців тому +188

    As a Canadian I stand in solidarity with our Swedish moose freak brethren

    • @danielled8665
      @danielled8665 11 місяців тому +9

      Though in awe anyone would dare. XD
      More extreme sport than saturation diving.

    • @TwoWholeWorms
      @TwoWholeWorms 11 місяців тому +4

      Meese Freaks :p

    • @toppersundquist
      @toppersundquist 11 місяців тому +1

      The Moosen Twosome.

    • @GoredonTheDestroyer
      @GoredonTheDestroyer 11 місяців тому +1

      Hear hear!

    • @eleSDSU
      @eleSDSU 11 місяців тому

      Surely the meese freaks don't need to be dragged down by the beaver junkies

  • @segarallychampionship702
    @segarallychampionship702 11 місяців тому +113

    22:48 Speaking of people getting decapitated on a bus, in Czechoslovakia, a truck trailer's side panel opened while on the road and cut through a bus going in the opposite direction and decapitated 9 kids, that was maybe 40 years ago.
    /EDIT: It happened in Podolínec, (today) Slovakia.
    The accident itself killed 9 children, all on the side that was struck by the truck, the bus driver was the only person on that side who survived the impact.
    Oh, also (CW suicide):
    the trailer mentioned was defective, the brakes on it did not work, the driver of the truck knew it was broken, he was forced by the company's (it was like a construction equipment company) dispatcher because other drivers in the company refused to drive a truck with a defective trailer. That driver was blamed for the whole incident and commited suicide in jail.

    • @xmlthegreat
      @xmlthegreat 11 місяців тому +11

      Jesus H. Christ that's horrific...

    • @opalpersonal
      @opalpersonal 11 місяців тому +9

      holy fucking shit

    • @hayuseen6683
      @hayuseen6683 11 місяців тому +25

      When the boss’s shit hits the fan
      It’s the employees that get covered in it
      Never the guy in the nice suit

    • @kimmatzen6504
      @kimmatzen6504 11 місяців тому +12

      About 10 or 15 years ago in Copenhagen there was a bus driver driving a double decker tourist bus, that missed a sign showing the hight of the underpass he was driving into. Took off the top of the bus at about shoulder hight of the top compartment.

    • @TSTypeR
      @TSTypeR 11 місяців тому +2

      JESUS!!!

  • @ZGVideosChannel
    @ZGVideosChannel 11 місяців тому +28

    Late episode means another month until the "I'm November Caldwell-Kelly" and that was going to be a highlight of this ep for me.

  • @TheThirdRider
    @TheThirdRider 11 місяців тому +46

    Devon, the secret fourth host, deserves vacation and unapologetic enjoyment thereof. 👍

  • @SericanGrind
    @SericanGrind 11 місяців тому +22

    Used to deliver parts to this plant, always chilling to see the two mismatched colors of the cooling tower and know the story behind it.

    • @bethl7602
      @bethl7602 11 місяців тому

      Even driving by on 7 is creepy, IMO.

  • @VinceWhitacre
    @VinceWhitacre 11 місяців тому +25

    Don't worry, Alice, Mia can't hear your insults from all the way up there.

  • @kingofthend
    @kingofthend 11 місяців тому +44

    The giant bucket wheel excavators are cool. I think they should keep digging the hole just without burning the coal.

    • @danielled8665
      @danielled8665 11 місяців тому +3

      Dig it up and make a big monument. 😅

    • @paulschmidts5429
      @paulschmidts5429 11 місяців тому +3

      One step ahead, the Sophienhöhe is the largest artificial hill in the world and was built next to the largest by volume Lignite mine in Germany (Tagebau Hambach), it’s about 200 meters taller then the sorounding flat terrain.

    • @andrewcassidy1790
      @andrewcassidy1790 10 місяців тому +1

      That’s where we put all the extra sea water to mitigate sea level rise

  • @capsjukebox
    @capsjukebox 11 місяців тому +42

    The idea of a post apocalypse society relearning how to be humane through object lessons on North Korean microfiche is somehow appealing sci-fi to me

  • @Mickulty
    @Mickulty 11 місяців тому +22

    Timestamps:
    0:00:00 Rocz's Novel Archival Plan
    0:01:33 Intro
    0:06:11 The GD News: Lawless Bus Hellhole
    0:14:57 The GD News: Nothing Good Comes From Planes
    0:23:50 Background: What Is Coal Power?
    0:27:30 Background: What and Why Is Cooling Towers
    0:37:40 Pleasants Power Station 1
    0:38:45 Background: Concrete
    0:42:40 Pleasants Power Station 2: Van Halen Forming
    0:47:46 Time Pressure + Rocz Says A Date
    0:53:07 Immediate Aftermath
    0:56:12 Long-Term Aftermath
    1:06:41 Safety Third: TA vs Unsanctioned Nitrogen Triiodide
    Thanks for the podcast y'all. My wife and I are no closer to finding a flat within an hour of her new job, because it's season 5% and also letting agents are apparently the only profession that actually runs as an anarchist commune while being the last one that should do. Add that to british trains and british weather, and I had to spend about 4 hours today dropping her off at a hotel by car through a fog-like cloud of spray. It was good to get back to this.

    • @MK.5198
      @MK.5198 11 місяців тому +2

      good luck out there and ty for the timestamps

    • @LordBloodpool
      @LordBloodpool 11 місяців тому

      Letting Agents are actually an Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune, I'll have you know.

  • @Monoprismatic
    @Monoprismatic 11 місяців тому +49

    Liam saying "Do not eat me!" and then describing how delicious his meat is.
    DAMN YOU, LIAM!

    • @notnullnotvoid
      @notnullnotvoid 11 місяців тому +5

      "I guide others to a treasure they cannot possess" - Liam

    • @peterpanda5069
      @peterpanda5069 11 місяців тому +2

      Finally the truth behind Rocz’s @ is revealed

    • @AnnDVine
      @AnnDVine 11 місяців тому

      really letting the vore fans down :(

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 11 місяців тому +1

      We love him, but we know he's not as tasty as a billionaire.

  • @Tzilandi
    @Tzilandi 11 місяців тому +60

    Literally rewatching the Ponte Morandi episode because of a bridge collapse in Greece when this dropped.

    • @Fox-419
      @Fox-419 11 місяців тому +10

      this episode dropped like a collapsing bridge xD

    • @goodluck5642
      @goodluck5642 11 місяців тому +10

      Bridge dropped when this dropped

  • @AlRoderick
    @AlRoderick 11 місяців тому +17

    That milkshake treats our boy like a yard.

  • @dougbuchanan784
    @dougbuchanan784 11 місяців тому +22

    My theory on air travel incidents is this: It is surprisingly easy to talk to a doctor and get a temporary prescription for Xanax if you have any sort of anxiety around flying. Mix that with 1 or 2 drinks and you have a recipe for a terrible time.

    • @hayuseen6683
      @hayuseen6683 11 місяців тому +5

      Alcohol in general seems to be problematic whenever you cram people together and then ship them places. Maybe they should require people to either not drink or drink enough they can’t coherently talk or move for the next 9 hours of the flight

    • @AbsolXGuardian
      @AbsolXGuardian 11 місяців тому +3

      Another reason to legalize edibles on planes.

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 11 місяців тому +2

      ​@@AbsolXGuardian
      Stoned people > Drunk people. I'm a guard.

    • @AbsolXGuardian
      @AbsolXGuardian 11 місяців тому

      @@grmpEqweer Do you mean stoned people are more dangerous than drunk people, or that stoned people are easier to deal with?

    • @sholem_bond
      @sholem_bond 2 місяці тому

      @AbsolXGuardian hopefully the latter, because AFAIK when you take too much cannabis, you often can't move. When you drink too much, you get rowdy/horny/aggressive/lacking in boundaries.

  • @DanCohoon
    @DanCohoon 11 місяців тому +24

    Alice on smoking meth on the train: "It is really rude."

    • @eleSDSU
      @eleSDSU 11 місяців тому +1

      Idk if the meth factors in, just don't smoke in the train, that's why the good lord gave us snus.

    • @ellew999
      @ellew999 8 місяців тому

      tbf it was the glasgow subway i have seen worse things there

  • @ShadowMageAlpha
    @ShadowMageAlpha 11 місяців тому +10

    For the viewing pleasure of others... I asked ChatGPT to write an intro for WTYP cause I needed to laugh after hearing after such tragedy:
    [Intro Music]
    Narrator: Welcome to "Well, There's Your Problem," the podcast where we delve into the fascinating world of engineering failures and disasters. I'm your host, [Your Name], and alongside me are the brilliant minds of Alice Caldwell-Kelly and Liam Anderson.
    Alice: Hey there, engineering enthusiasts!
    Liam: Greetings, disaster detectives!
    Narrator: Together, we'll be your guides on a journey through the past, exploring some of the most perplexing and catastrophic blunders in history.
    Alice: From towering bridge collapses to massive infrastructure mishaps, we'll be dissecting the engineering missteps that led to these unforgettable events.
    Liam: But fear not! It won't be all doom and gloom. We'll find humor in the absurdity and shed light on valuable lessons that can prevent future calamities.
    Narrator: Each episode, we'll dive headfirst into the intricate details behind these engineering marvels gone awry. We'll speak the language of bolts and beams, uncovering the hidden flaws and overlooked designs that brought them crashing down.
    Alice: And we're not just about engineering jargon! We'll explore the human aspect, too, examining the societal, political, and ethical factors that played a role in these disasters.
    Liam: So whether you're an engineering enthusiast, a history buff, or just someone curious about the world around you, this podcast is for you!
    Narrator: Join us as we unravel the stories behind the headlines, revealing how seemingly small oversights and big decisions can have earth-shattering consequences.
    Alice: So come on, folks! Grab your hard hats and get ready to explore the thrilling world of engineering failures with "Well, There's Your Problem!"
    [Outro Music]
    Thanks, GPT. I hate it. You've done a great job in making me appreciate the low bar the WTYP team gives us. (Kidding, hopefully obviously. As much as you guys joke about the quality of the podcast, it's perfectly adequate.)

    • @philipmalcolm4550
      @philipmalcolm4550 11 місяців тому

      How does it keep up with the news like that?

  • @segarallychampionship702
    @segarallychampionship702 11 місяців тому +38

    Waiting for the five part Cold War Superpower Vanity Projects episode

    • @VeggieRice
      @VeggieRice 11 місяців тому +12

      only if alice brings back the soviet anthem drop

    • @SubRosaFlorens
      @SubRosaFlorens 11 місяців тому +5

      @@VeggieRice Does Lenin's ghost get paid a royalty every time the Soviet anthem is played?

  • @chaseman113
    @chaseman113 11 місяців тому +10

    16:52 the awful passenger and Liam’s rage reminds me of the concept for the Fawlty Tower movie.
    Where the Fawlty Towers cast is on a plane and Basil Fawlty stops a hijacking attempt with his rage & saves the plane. Total hero moment and briefly Basil is the hero.
    The twist is the pilots want to turn around and go back.
    Basil just want to continue his vacation.
    So Basil pulls the hijacker’s gun on the pilots and forces them to continue to their destination.
    Upon landing, Basil is immediately arrested, spends his vacation in foreign jail while the rest of the cast enjoy their vacation.

  • @piparalegal2019
    @piparalegal2019 11 місяців тому +14

    I absolutely love the picture of Milkshake. What an adorable cat. That broke me a little during Safety Third - just like it broke Justin. Cats are magical creatures who will break our human brains in ways beyond our comprehension. Our cats thoroughly approve of Milkshake's antics, especially our tabby who will try to "help" me work by laying on my shoulder while I'm trying to work.

  • @sparky_universe
    @sparky_universe 11 місяців тому +7

    Having binged a rather terrifying number of episodes in the last week, I've been enjoying the fairly new addition of comments from Devon. I would, however, kindly request that text be left on the screen several seconds longer so that those of us who read slowly or who watch/listen at 2x speeds (or both) can appreciate their commentary without needing to pause the video. Thanks for all the many hours of hilariously disastrous entertainment!

  • @Reid52
    @Reid52 11 місяців тому +270

    trans rights are human rights

    • @hutt716
      @hutt716 5 днів тому

      Good thing you have the same rights as everyone else.

  • @alexritchie4586
    @alexritchie4586 11 місяців тому +6

    Alice, if you're ever on a train passing through East Midlands Parkway, you'll have a very good chance of pulling up and stopping less than 50m from the working cooling towers of Ratcliffe-on-Soar power station. It's never ending rain inside them. Waves of it lashing down constantly. A pretty interesting sight.

  • @SeanKDLA
    @SeanKDLA 11 місяців тому +25

    Liam as a Wurzel is the jumpscare we all need today.

  • @joshuagreen3185
    @joshuagreen3185 11 місяців тому +9

    oh yeah, international business class is legit. you are not allowed to get mad about your travel experience if you're up there. (source: have flown international business class once, from Delhi to Munich to Frankfurt to New York on Lufthansa, primarily to check off the bucket list item of flying on the top deck of a 747)

    • @joshuagreen3185
      @joshuagreen3185 11 місяців тому +5

      incidentally, because the flight was near-ish to Christmas and German, I went with the roast goose, and it was delicious.

  • @talicowart9577
    @talicowart9577 11 місяців тому +22

    Good for you Devon, you shouldn't have to feel sorry about being on holiday

  • @jasonallman696
    @jasonallman696 11 місяців тому +8

    Alice. Hang in there. I don't know what is going on in your life, but I hope things get better.

  • @choo-choo4922
    @choo-choo4922 11 місяців тому +6

    Being in engineering school sucks, but slowly understanding more and more of the little stem references Roz makes like the Carnot cycle bit makes me feel a little better.

  • @petterericson6230
    @petterericson6230 11 місяців тому +10

    There actually seems to have been a very similar incident in China with an even higher bodycount, down to the cooling tower being intended for a coal power plant. Happened in Fengsheng and left 74 people dead, in 2016.

  • @QuarrelsomeLocalOaf
    @QuarrelsomeLocalOaf 11 місяців тому +21

    A podcast about Juche, with slides 🇰🇵

  • @mattwales2734
    @mattwales2734 11 місяців тому +18

    I've done concrete testing for a storage silo in Colorado. I'm surprised they didn't use a pump truck and concrete hoses to get the concrete up there. Seems to me the crane and bucket method would be inefficient. I was told to stay the heck off the 'slip mold' because they're still dangerous. I watched them extend the scaffolding stairs one time, and a guy was trying to dislodge a bolt that was holding the scaffolding to the side of the silo. He hit something, and something snapped, and I watched him and four other guys start careening back and forth at the top of the scaffolding. Years later I was talking about what I saw that night to a guy at a different job site, and he laughed because he was the guy using the sledgehammer.

    • @kimmatzen6504
      @kimmatzen6504 11 місяців тому +4

      Hmm. Google says it wasn't until 57 that pumping was faster than buckets. So most likely the technology was propably sorta new when the cooling towers was build, or there was problems pumping it up far enough.

    • @mattwales2734
      @mattwales2734 11 місяців тому +1

      @@kimmatzen6504 You're probably right. 'The 70's are starting to be a long time ago.

    • @bethl7602
      @bethl7602 11 місяців тому +5

      Technology is slow to get to the Mid-Ohio Valley. So 1957 pumping technology not being used in the ‘70s is legit.

  • @indyrevoly3060
    @indyrevoly3060 11 місяців тому +8

    "I know the plural of 'moose' is 'moose' but I always say 'meese' because it's funny"
    A man truly after my own heart

  • @GaldirEonai
    @GaldirEonai 11 місяців тому +22

    I've got a guess about the popcorn one.
    Apparently a heavy cockroach infestation smells very similar to a movie theater popcorn machine. Knowing this suddenly gives that scent some VERY different implications...

    • @eleSDSU
      @eleSDSU 11 місяців тому +8

      Nope, they shared the story in the comments, it was about how the cinema workers weren't given time to clean the machine between batches of popcorn. Only biodiesel flavoured popcorn after 20.00hrs

  • @fauxpinkytoo
    @fauxpinkytoo 11 місяців тому +28

    I always feel a profound sense of joy (and relief) when another WTYP posts. It's been a rough few months employment-wise, self-esteem-wise, and despair is really setting in now. Also, I made the mistake of looking at the calendar today and realizing I know exactly where I was on this date (July 23) 50 years ago, how I felt, etc. To all of you young people, I can only say...make the most of the time available to you, it goes so damn fast. And...Yay, Liam.

    • @eleSDSU
      @eleSDSU 11 місяців тому +11

      Same, this parasocial space always gives me joy and hope. Life is both terrifyingly short to enjoy and terribly long to waste away.
      Take care Fauxpinkytoo 🫂

  • @angryowlet153
    @angryowlet153 11 місяців тому +9

    I heard Red Star is a fork of Fedora and uses SELinux, which would be laughably ironic because that was developed with the NSA.
    There's a guy on here somewhere who got his hands on Red Star, put it in a VM, and did some de-spooking on it. That was really cool to watch (even if it was fake).
    I'd love to go digging into those binaries and see what shenanigans are hiding in there!

  • @michaelsanger8327
    @michaelsanger8327 11 місяців тому +56

    remembering these workers by a putting up a concrete memorial - that's like remembering John F. Kennedy by wearing a National Rifle Association pin.
    ( OTOH: we're remembering Jesus by wearing a cross, so ... there is that. )

    • @midgetwthahacksaw
      @midgetwthahacksaw 11 місяців тому +19

      Considering the fact it was done by a teenager because the COMPANY who forced the workers to die for the tower wouldn't even admit to any wrongdoing let alone a memorial, I think the kid did alright.
      He made it himself and yes, bought the benches from a garden center with his own money. He made it around the early 00's, about 20 years after the incident.
      He didn't have any connection to it other than being from the town and being angry that there still wasn't even a memorial.

  • @DWOBoyleMusic
    @DWOBoyleMusic 11 місяців тому +8

    Shoutouts to Milkshake creating a Safety Third during a Safety Third

  • @atn_holdings
    @atn_holdings 11 місяців тому +13

    so funny that you were about to not tell Alice about UPS and let her think that a university was brewing and shipping cider to Liam

  • @Madhouse_Media
    @Madhouse_Media 11 місяців тому +4

    Liam's "Slump Dog Millionaire" joke didn't get the reaction it deserved.

  • @joearnold6881
    @joearnold6881 11 місяців тому +4

    Holy shit. I’ve never heard of this one.
    Imagine being the guy just to the side of where it started…
    You just watch this collapse travel *all* the way around and back to to you and you can’t do anything.
    I don’t want that long of a warning of unavoidable death.
    It’s like that skydiver who was jumping to film student jumpers who got distracted and grabbed his camera bag rather than the parachute and jumped out of the plane.
    You can see from his helmet cam, him filming the other jumpers and then realizing he doesn’t have a rip cord… the whole drop repeatedly grabbing for the cord he knows isn’t there like you check your pockets repeatedly for car keys you’ve lost… as he just swears and screams for the many seconds to the ground.
    (The clip I watched cuts off well before the end, thankfully. I don’t think I could handle seeing more of it)

  • @blackmagemasher4031
    @blackmagemasher4031 11 місяців тому +32

    Thank you crew for another banger episode. Thank you Devon for editing this beast :-)

  • @KurtisHord
    @KurtisHord 11 місяців тому +8

    Romans did not invent. Craftspeople invented. Vitruvius provided recipe for “trass mortar” which is Roman concrete, with hot mixed quicklime reaction. It was NEVER LOST.

  • @pato5226
    @pato5226 11 місяців тому +12

    23:51 can confirm, I, as an Australian, am triggered by seeing Scomo. Can’t believe you’d do this to us. I feel you owe us an Australian disaster episode at some point in order to mend diplomatic ties haha.
    Fr love what you do! Been addicted to the pod for the past couple months, almost listened to all of them now

    • @peterpanda5069
      @peterpanda5069 11 місяців тому +1

      How many times can they do a bridge collapses ans construction site collapse before getting to the WGB? It just seems mean at this point.

    • @ellenh5468
      @ellenh5468 11 місяців тому +2

      The timing of it too. I had just gotten used to him not being a major part of the news and now this?

    • @_allegra
      @_allegra 7 місяців тому

      I instinctively hissed when he popped up

  • @cdf123x
    @cdf123x 11 місяців тому +12

    Not sure what the "official" popcorn story will be, but I can add one from my experience. Where I worked the popcorn was popped in a single popper, but we had 3 concession lanes for customers, so each lane had roughly 2 sections of cabinets hollowed out and lined with insulation and stainless steel with heat lamps overhead. At the end of the night, we would clean out one of the bins, emptying it into the other two. Then you would rotate which bin you clean out each night. Sounds good in theory, it's just dry popcorn, no salt or butter yet, we added that per customer. The problem came with the rodents. This is in MN, so a good portion of the year is cold if not freezing. As a rodent, your ideal home would be someplace worm with easy access to food. We tried putting out traps, but there's laws against using poisons in a food environment, and even quick kill traps are frowned upon. So we're limited to live traps, but you can't put them behind the line, as that's too close to the food, and the owner didn't want them in the lobby because customers would see them, and maybe "put 2 and 2 together" and figure out that maybe their snacks could have some unwanted garnishes courtesy of Mother Nature. So the stock room behind the counters got the bulk of the traps. I will admit that I ate enough popcorn working there to make me sick of it for life, but I always took mine directly from the popper, it's fresh, hot, and no chance of extra "seasonings".

  • @lukewest7216
    @lukewest7216 11 місяців тому +15

    Calling concrete cement is like calling bread flour

    • @capsjukebox
      @capsjukebox 11 місяців тому +6

      It’s fundamentally misunderstanding the stages of construction: cement, concrete, rubble

    • @Africa893
      @Africa893 11 місяців тому +2

      CEMENT
      DAS CONK CRETE BAYBEE

  • @Portablesounds
    @Portablesounds 11 місяців тому +8

    Liam being a BSD guy makes a lot of sense. Shame it doesn't hibernate and barely has drivers for anything :P. (I'm saying this as a software engineer who works on a FreeBSD based OS everyday lol).

  • @laurencebois5119
    @laurencebois5119 11 місяців тому +5

    I was once on a British airways flight where we had two options for food that was just dumb. It was chicken & rice or squash curry, i was not surprised they ran out of the chicken option before they reached economy. They probably had to deep clean the entire aircraft after that.
    Coincidentally they had run out of customer survey forms too.

  • @jacobrzeszewski6527
    @jacobrzeszewski6527 11 місяців тому +10

    Dang it! Your podcast is TOO COZY. I've fallen asleep twice trying to listen to it!
    Edit: four times now. And the fourth time Roz's cat invaded my dream. Very not satisfied.

  • @EvilGrin
    @EvilGrin 11 місяців тому +58

    Come gather 'round children, it's high time ye learn - About a hero named Homer and a devil named Burns
    We'll march till we drop, the girls and the fellas - We'll fight to the death or else fold like umbrellas
    So we'll march day and night by the big cooling towers - They have the plant, but we have the power

  • @thomasgiles2876
    @thomasgiles2876 11 місяців тому +6

    "I'm Juche-Stan Roczniak"

  • @BiggestCorvid
    @BiggestCorvid 11 місяців тому +4

    DAMMIT, SUNDAY MORNINGS ARE FOR AUSTRALIAN DEFENCE ECONOMICS, NOT ENGINEERING DISASTERS

    • @BigHenFor
      @BigHenFor 11 місяців тому +1

      Lol. Do you get antsy if Perun posts late? It's like where's Perun?

    • @BiggestCorvid
      @BiggestCorvid 11 місяців тому

      @BigHenFor I'm not allowed to get antsy if wtyp uploads late. Liam said don't. I'll take my ants where I can.

  • @el1751
    @el1751 11 місяців тому +14

    welcome back dev! hope chicago was good, glad to be able to listen to this episode

  • @jacebeleren9290
    @jacebeleren9290 11 місяців тому +2

    Couple of things I know about cooling towers having worked on a power plant for roughly 2 years off and on: while one is active, wind isn't necessarily your first pickup, but the "rain" is nigh upon deafening even from the outside. Second, as benign a construct as a cooling tower may be, the large pools found beneath are definitely unsafe for humans. Swimmable at a depth of merely 5 feet, although doing so is incredibly ill-advised as said pools are for some reason full of legionella, the bacteria responsible for legionairre's disease. Third, if legionairre's disease isn't your vibe, you can just die quicker by taking a boat out to the middle while the tower is in use. Assuming the water is cool enough at the base of the tower to not scald you to death, the rain is dense enough that you will just drown before you can go all the way across.
    NOTE: These factoids refer specifically to the cooling towers of Plant Bowen of north Georgia and Georgia Power/Southern Company and is not necessarily true of all cooling towers.

  • @corvuscallosum5079
    @corvuscallosum5079 11 місяців тому +15

    I liked Liam's UNESCO army bit. How do I enlist?

    • @loadeddice4696
      @loadeddice4696 11 місяців тому +4

      I would absolutely join the UNESCO army. Standing guard outside like a medieval library in Prague with an MP5

    • @ClimateDude
      @ClimateDude 11 місяців тому

      Dude ISIS wouldn't have been able to chip a stone out of Palmyra before being utterly annihilated by fanatical UNESCO troops 🫡

  • @Novers
    @Novers 11 місяців тому +17

    I hope you enjoyed your holiday Devon

  • @__-jt4tv
    @__-jt4tv 11 місяців тому +2

    "Support your local Medical Examiner - Die Strangely"
    This simultaneously sounds like a Welcome to Night Vale quote and urgently needs to be on a T-Shirt.

  • @theryanbard
    @theryanbard 11 місяців тому +10

    My favourite juche podcast returns!

  • @stephanief5794
    @stephanief5794 11 місяців тому +3

    oh my god. the philly bus terminal was hell on earth. literally the worst place i’ve ever been. but they didn’t have to get rid of it fuck me

  • @simongiavaras7787
    @simongiavaras7787 11 місяців тому +2

    Related to "World Construction Games," I don't know about construction but in Transportation we definitely have rail rodeos, where we play with the trains in friendly competition

    • @bethl7602
      @bethl7602 11 місяців тому +2

      Our department of transportation also has Roadeos that involve using their various road building and fixing equipment to do stunts.

  • @ProjectThunderclaw
    @ProjectThunderclaw 11 місяців тому +4

    Podcast Juche, sure, but I think the real ideological victory in this episode happens at 3:47, where we can see Devon wholeheartedly embracing Liam Thought

  • @johnathanh2660
    @johnathanh2660 10 місяців тому +2

    For you Terry Pratchett fans... his first job was as a Press officer with the CEGB (UK's power grid/power stations) shortly before 3 mile island.
    He was inundated with questions every time there was an incident on the campus of a power station.
    As he put it - they're light industrial units.
    Anyway, as PTerry puts it - the different power stations are just different ways of boiling the kettle.

  • @AproposAndy
    @AproposAndy 11 місяців тому +10

    Rich guy throwing wasteful temper tantrum on airline flight because he didn't tell them what dindin he wanted before hand really feels emblematic of the way more and more people in this country earn wealth without actually being active participants in its creation.

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 11 місяців тому +2

      "Earn."
      You spelled 'parasite' wrong.

    • @Trendyflute
      @Trendyflute 11 місяців тому

      @@grmpEqweer Glad I'm not the only one using this word.

  • @whoever6458
    @whoever6458 11 місяців тому +2

    If there was one of those cooling towers near me and if I had enough money for the paint, I'd totally sneak in and paint something cheery on them. lol

  • @Mt.Dwezzy
    @Mt.Dwezzy 11 місяців тому +11

    The news about the UA flight and as someone who flew in first and had a woman be fighting FAs and diverting us to the land of unseasoned chicken and being able to say the n word I mean kansas city mo, I'm 100% for economy passengers rocking someone's shit for being a dickhhead in business class

    • @Papayotin
      @Papayotin 11 місяців тому

      I have to defend my city, where the airport is the chicken is unseasoned. Come into the city and that shit is slathered in sauce and smoked tender. We are a barbecue city and it's about the sauce.
      I do take a bit more offense with your second assumption. It's pretty coastal elitist to think that the being able to say the N word is a middle America thing, but the rest of the country has reached enlightenment somehow. If you had just said Missouri, I also wouldn't take as much offense because the rural counties. Shitting on the city though is just cheap stereotyping. I'm a white man that grew up in a predominantly white, middle class suburb and spent my entire life all around the metro area. The only white people I have heard say the N word were a couple of Far Right weirdos that went to my HS and that seems to be just about everywhere in the country atm.
      Not to bring down the vibe, but you know I don't like seeing the two connected. It irks me to paint blue cities in red states as backwards and racist. Like Boston exists. They aren't always charming in Mass when it comes to the N word.
      That flight does sound like it was hell though

    • @Mt.Dwezzy
      @Mt.Dwezzy 11 місяців тому +1

      @@Papayotin sorry but you can't use coastal elite for every pot shot taken at *insert city and state here* now my comedic crack comes from the deep south ol miss to be exact and the very obvious racial difference between you and me, we joke about that shit all the time because we know how bad charleston ms is. As for the unseasoned joke that's just black twitter comedy which is no mercy off rip. Yes the outside does season they food I've been to lamberts and many other places in mo trust on that.

    • @Papayotin
      @Papayotin 11 місяців тому

      @lionking4iscomingIV I'm using coastal elite as a stand-in for the general idea of the middle of the country being somehow less than or backwards. Making the distinction that we have more racist white people than the rest of the country does speak toward that kind of prejudice. That's all I mean by the term, you don't necessarily have to be from the coasts to feel that way. People here feel like that.
      I appreciate that you took time to respond and level with me. I just didn't know where you were coming from. It's all love man, I just was feeling a frustration and wanted to let it be known.

    • @Mt.Dwezzy
      @Mt.Dwezzy 11 місяців тому

      @@Papayotin nah I get you putting in for yo home town when someone in they instigating bag but hey if we Midwestern folk don't jab at each other we wouldn't have the crazy collective of Madison WI being the unhinged college town and packers fans that can barely stand themselves

  • @ayemessdee
    @ayemessdee 11 місяців тому +2

    There's a competition in Australia (and I think internationally, but it may have a different name elsewhere) called Worldskills, where apprentices compete at various trade skills like bricklaying. So maybe cement pouring competitions do exist!

  • @TiagoJoaoSilva
    @TiagoJoaoSilva 11 місяців тому +3

    Learning the secrets of the Universe and splitting the atom, just to boil a big kettle that turns a wheel

  • @jamespuffer2889
    @jamespuffer2889 11 місяців тому +4

    Devon is out of control and I am 100% here in support of that.

  • @zoeygeorge2403
    @zoeygeorge2403 11 місяців тому +5

    it wouldn't have gone down like that if i was there. haven't listened yet but i can tell already

  • @michatarka2642
    @michatarka2642 11 місяців тому +6

    Gustavus adolphus fought in germany.
    Guy who wanted to attack st petersburg was Charles XII (he never did)
    Swedes used primarily muskets and pikes at that time not halberds
    Last war against russia was a few years after 1800, they took Finland from sweden. That was a good two-three tsars after Peter the great. mr. killjoy signing out

  • @VegasLounge
    @VegasLounge 10 місяців тому +1

    30:25 Last year I visited Morro Bay, California, which has a huge (now closed) power plant just off the shoreline. My kayak guide, a native of the city, said that when the plant shut down all the surfers were disappointed because the warm outflow meant that Morro Bay was one of the few Northern-Central California beaches you could surf without a wetsuit.

  • @Klatchan
    @Klatchan 11 місяців тому +4

    How do you know if someone's a BSD guy? Don't worry; they'll tell you.

    • @ssgtmole8610
      @ssgtmole8610 11 місяців тому +1

      There are some Information Technology old timers who are still waiting for the GNU operating system (Gnu's not UNIX). Way longer than people waited for Duke Nukem Forever. 🙀

  • @tarasaurus98
    @tarasaurus98 11 місяців тому +7

    1:02:35 I have a hard time believing that Justin has not seen every single episode of Modern Marvels: Engineering Disasters from the history channel before. This disaster was featured! Along with a bunch of other similar poor construction disasters. I even have the DVD box set of the show, I can send it to y'all if you need some more research material.

  • @civishamburgum1234
    @civishamburgum1234 11 місяців тому +6

    I wonder how they made the clouds, before there where cooling towers.

  • @trottergraeme
    @trottergraeme 11 місяців тому +1

    @alice to answer your question about 'what is it like standing next to a cooling tower'. You do feel a slight draft as the cool air is sucked in, and it sounds like a waterfall. But in general people aren't encouraged to get with 6 feet or so. Cooling towers are notorious for growing the Legionaires bacteria, and the little droplets of water that escape from the bottom can infect someone very easily.
    On a side note, I've got a picture of one completely frozen solid. Looked very cool, but the weight of the ice destroyed all the internals as they are not load bearing.

  • @lowmagnet
    @lowmagnet 11 місяців тому +2

    Not just the fuel, the fuel cleanup. Not just the cleanup, the ecological damage cost.

  • @lightwaves1859
    @lightwaves1859 11 місяців тому +2

    the memorial thing reminds me of that old bill hicks bit about jesus where he's like "you think if jesus comes back he ever wants to see a fucking cross again?"

  • @botbtquarrel4072
    @botbtquarrel4072 11 місяців тому +3

    My favourite part about the ScoMo coal stunt is, well, look at his hands and his suit. There's not a trace of dust anywhere on them. He had someone get him a lump of coal and then varnish that shit so he could do pissweak prop comedy

  • @peterhoff6776
    @peterhoff6776 9 місяців тому +1

    I'm picturing Milkshake looming over Rocz the way Robert E Howard said the spirit of Conan loomed over him while he was writing

  • @NavigatorBR
    @NavigatorBR 8 місяців тому +1

    For those wondering, the only reason there's a memorial was a 12 year old grandson of a worker killed in the disaster, Anthony Lauer, did a report on the disaster and that evolved into creating a memorial.

  • @charleslecki3609
    @charleslecki3609 11 місяців тому +4

    Remember folks:
    Clear and yella you got juice there fella.
    Tangy and brown you're in cider town.

  • @PerryPlanet
    @PerryPlanet 11 місяців тому +2

    Ironically, Flixbus selling off Greyhound's real estate resulted in them finally consolidating Greyhound operations in LA with the other intercity bus carriers at the bus plaza at our Union Station, instead of the shitty old bus station on the other end of downtown, which was a pleasant surprise--although they did it without any kind of news release or press announcement, it was just "hey, Greyhound is here now k thx"

  • @RedSaint83
    @RedSaint83 11 місяців тому +2

    And it's the Finnish people that has a lot of underground stuff. They have bunkers with sports facilities and everything, bunkers that can hold at least 1 million people across the country - 'cause they know their neighbour and the old quote: “It is from their foes, not their friends, that cities learn the lesson of building high walls”.

  • @Skylancer727
    @Skylancer727 11 місяців тому +2

    The face on that cat is so funny. It's just looking at the camera like "human you know I need to do this"

  • @bilbobaggin3
    @bilbobaggin3 11 місяців тому +1

    The Greyhound Decapitation Incident happened on a bus just outside of Winnipeg, which is probably the correct response to having to go to Winnipeg, to be fair.

  • @worawatli8952
    @worawatli8952 11 місяців тому +1

    56:25 Imagine dying in a car accident and your tomb shaped as the car you died in, like, a Multipla headstone.

  • @NXPhoenix3
    @NXPhoenix3 11 місяців тому +1

    Slump Test 2018 deserves its R-18 because of all the energetic ramrodding the player does.

  • @adambarker-wyatt6579
    @adambarker-wyatt6579 11 місяців тому +2

    Great to see Wurzel representation in this episode

  • @jedimindtricks01
    @jedimindtricks01 11 місяців тому +1

    The best part of Roz being so upset about cement vs concrete is that I bet he's never even personally poured a single yard of concrete, let alone mixed his own from cement, sand, and aggregate 😂

  • @mikeocksmall1695
    @mikeocksmall1695 9 місяців тому +1

    Not sure anyone has commented about Scot Morrison's coal stunt, but he brought it into parliament and started waving around saying "it's just coal! It can't hurt you! It's fine!" However the fact that the coal had to be coated with wax so that it did not stain everything it went near was not brought up...