They can’t fire Alice. She and the activate windows prompt have unionized. With their two out of four votes they can now block whatever motions they want.
Picturing the shots of him checking his watch satisfied with how ahead of schedule they were, and once when he touches the medal and a blank spot beside it.
Hey it's the safety third guy I'll explain a little more here. I was trying to keep it within the page so I had to be a little vague. But the rods with the 90 degree barbs on the end are the springs. You bend those back until they are in line with the hole at the top of the cone. After this all happened we did some jobsite science and when we released the spring like he did into his eye it could shoot through three pieces of cardboard. The hooks are a very shallow C shape and you insert the 90 degree bends into the opening in the side of the C. When you push up on the whole trim the rods spread back out sucking the trim into the ceiling. This is a common thing for me to do so I guess I take for granted that this concept is a simple thing for me and not for people not in the trade. I could do a million safety thirds for this single job lol.
Obligatory response to the russian pencil story: both americans and russians used to use graphite pencils, but graphite powder floating in zero gravity would get into all the electronics and short-circuit shit. NASA started working on a space pen, didn't really pan out, then the Fisher company developed one that worked, and now both americans and russians use them in their space programs.
Do they still use them? I would think PDAs would be cheaper and more reliable then space pens. I know IBM supplied NASA with ThinkPad laptop for space travel back in the 1990s.
From what I gather, a standard ballpoint point, like one of the really cheap ones, would work in space just as well. As they are not in fact gravity fed. So in real life, as opposed to the apocryphal story, no one actually wins. But try telling that to the people who delight in telling the story like it has some sort of meaningful point.
@@TheScottWolcott But there is no real "up" or "down" in space, those labels are just applied for convenience usually in reference to the nearest body you are orbiting - or the "roof" and "bottom" of the spacecraft, but either of those could be pointing "down" towards the planet or "up" away from it at any given moment.
I just want to comment on this podcast's high production values. I've watched a lot of podcasts in my time, and they don't even have slides. This is the only one that is good.
Mexican here, who was raised in Mexico City, with a few comments about the God Damn News. First of all, it's a little sad that as soon as I saw this news, I was like "damn! my city will get mentioned in in WTYP!". Route 12 had issues since it opened, even much earlier than the 2017 earthquake. A few months after this line opened, they had to close an entire section because of problems with the rails, among others. I only got to ride this line once, back in 2014, and I was terrified the whole time because the train felt wobbly. The 2017 earthquake just made things worse. The older routes, the ones built in the 70s, were much better built and actually survived the 1985 earthquake without damage (unlike large parts of the city). For a long time, I would have felt safer from an earthquake in one of these stations than in my apartment building. The new lines? Not so much. The 1975 accident mentioned was also a subway accident, not a passenger train: a subway train rear-ended another one that was stopped at a station, and about 39 people died. For years, people would avoid the first and last cars in the subway for fear of this accident. If you wanted better chances to get a seat, you'd go to the front or the back. I always did. Also I remember at least 2 passenger train trips as a kid, departing from Mexico City, but this was probably before 1985, so the 1990s estimate for the disappearance of passenger trains in Mexico tracks. I lived in Mexico City till I was 40, and traveled by subway to school and work for years and years. This piece of news really broke my heart. Thanks for covering this accident, and reminding me of my poor, monstrous city that I love and miss so much.
Fun fact, apparently marshal Nedellin was an artillery advisor for the Spanish Republic during the Spanish Civil War, technically making him an antifa before it was even cool to be one
So the fucker has always been on the wrong side, huh? The "Republic" consisted of a bunch of really nasty Communists who tried to enslave the Spaniards and who killed everybody on their own side who wasn't fanatic enough.
@@GeraintDafis no, but I actually know how bad Communists are. You can look up the numbers in the Spanish Civil War and you can read what the two main sides did. It is clear (despite the strong left-wing bias in most sources) that the Communists were monsters and that it was a good thing that Franco won. Please go and do the same.
@@peterfireflylund The Republic was a democratically elected government and the Soviet-aligned communicts only took power after the elected government fled Madrid early in the war. THE MILITARY COUP ATTEMPT DIRECTLY AIDED THE COMMUNISTS IN TAKING POWER. Fight me on this subject because I could bully your ignorant ass all day about it.
Rocz in Philadelphia: Hm I sure hope I don’t get killed by rocket debris Me in New Zealand 8k miles away: Hm I sure hope don’t get killed by rocket debris
41:26 Nedelin: "I'm going to oversee this entire thing myself" Truly slavic leadership! 10 years ago certain Polish general said something similar and waltzed in to the cockpit of president's airliner during the landing in Smolensk.
56:29 fun fact: This is also basically how some sea mines are triggered. The little pokey out bits on the mine have a glass ampule inside that contain the acid half of a lead acid battery, and when a ship hits the mine and the glass breaks it flows down onto a lead cathode/anode generating a small current that trips the trigger and detonates the mine.
Makes sense: can't be much more dangerous than the trams in Amsterdam; those drivers have seen _way_ too many tourists to ever slow down to avoid a maiming.
me: clicks on new WTYPP video "i've never heard of this disaster" "that looks like a rocket pad" ROZ: "what is a ICBM?" me: "this is going to be terrible or really funny"
I had to work with hydrazine briefly in graduate school. However, we were a biology lab and didn't really have space for reactive organics. So I expressed my concerns about safe handling and storage to my advisor and got a lecture about "not being afraid of chemicals."
I only needed a very small amount, but the smallest bottle available was 100 mL, so there's a university biochemistry lab out there with a bottle of rocket fuel sitting unused in a spare flammables cabinet.
@@TheFirebird123456 My project was to controllably couple antibodies onto a macromolecular scaffold, so I was playing around with carbohydrate redox chemistry to try and link them through their glycocylation sites.
Thanks to my ADHD, this is the fifth time I've listened to this episode and I finally *actually heard* the whole thing. This is a comment entirely on me and not this podcast which, unlike my mental health, is consistently excellent. Thank you seriously I really love your show ✨
wait i think i misunderstood. u meant you watched it in five parts. im watching the whole thing a second time bc my memory is bad due to the adhd so its almost a new video to me
Having installed those trims before, I 100% understood the mechanics. Imagine a pair of chopsticks, that to "close", you have to fight the stiffest d*mn spring you've ever had to fight. They can be a PAIN to hold shut normally, and if you let go they will IMMEDIATELY spring back. (The springs are to force the rods into the hooks and provide tension). What it sounds like is, due to the undersized holes, when the dude was installing the trim, a rod clipped the edge of hole, causing him to let go of one of the rods. Thanks to the spring, it immediately flung outward, and into his eye. (For reference, I've fought those trims before because even with a normal hole you're have to hold the rods shut whilst standing on a ladder with no point of contact beyond your feet, being careful not to yank the socket out of the trim whilst you try to align 4 hooks on the spring loaded rods high up in the can.)
i love how in so many of these there's some guy on site who is supposedly very intelligent and very in charge, who is yelling at everyone to do something incredibly stupid that then ends in death and disaster. and either no one is around to try and challenge him or he just shouts over the one guy who does.
Timestamps! Maybe? If UA-cam stops deleting them: 00:00:04 - well there's your problem 0:07:33 - the goddamn news (starting with Mexico's second worse train disaster -off: just read atlas shrugged and this is fitting) 0:12:00 - news: Santa Claus's revenge in Wyoming 0:16:23 - buytwominous 0:16:39 - are you compensating for something with this rocket sir? 0:17:30 - what is an ICBM? 0:20:58 - R16 0:21:30 - Justin says amongus
Meanwhile in the smoking bunker: Vodya: "Suka blyat what is that outside?!" Misha: "Is probably avrora borealskaya. Problem of somebody else." Burning person tangled in barbed wire choking on poison fumes: "Help!"
"The Actors borealskaya? At this time of day, comrade? At this time of year? Located entirely within People's Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan, Comrade?" "Da." "Can I see it?" "Nyet."
Ho boy RFNA before we really figured out how to stop it from eating through storage tanks, what could go wrong? 🧐 Btw, the book "Ignition! An informal history of rocket propellants" is basically WTYP but as a book written by someone in the industry, it's awesome. Btw2, in the industry they call it UDMH because its such a pain to say and write.
I’ll say again, the book is 100% worth the price on Amazon/the kindle store, It’s easily readable by the layman (the author explains things without being condescending)- it’s a shame they didn’t write more books, afaik- Btw, the foreword is by Isaac Asimov!
I ain't worried about Wyoming suing me. It's a many fortnight's journey in the fastest Conestoga wagon to my jurisdiction, and I doubt they'll find adequate horse parking anyway. They'll have to hitch their horses up far outside of town and mosey all the way in on foot. And if my favorite childhood videogame was any guide on such a journey, they'll just drown trying to ford too deep of a river or die from dysentery on the way.
living next to Wyoming I can confirm the validity of their primary mode of transportation for official government business is, in fact, coal fired bison.
@@Mercgribern I'm now imagining a giant, steam-powered cast-iron bison rolling down a freeway at 8 miles per hour, blocking all the traffic lanes, on its way to serve process on the California Attorney General
also, regarding the player piano thing, that was avionics back then and for quite a long time, I try and collect bits where I can find it. you didn’t have cost effective integrated circuits or computers so you did your math with gears and cam followers
While f'n awsum, those are analog computers. The sequencers are more like the old program selector on a washing machine (the one that rotates and clicks each time something has to happen)
@@TiagoJoaoSilva oh shoot thanks for correcting me! I haven’t been lucky enough to come across something like that yet, I’ll keep my eyes open at swap meets once I’m able to go outside again and safely be around lots of people
Liam be careful with that Sprinter: my GF saw a bunch off the road,tipped over because the wind in the Rockies was so bad.High gravity center. Good luck kid.
Are you sure this general guy wasn't working with the US to wipe out the USSR nuclear weapons team? Also, the USSR apparently was very good at implementing security measures but very bad at following security protocols. This shows you why you need both standards and practices, we love you OSHA.
It takes a special talent at creating catastrophes to have your catastrophe named not after the place it happened or the type of it but after yourself.
Soviets took their missiles out of Cuba and USA took their missiles out of Turkey. "That's Détente, Comrade; *You* don't have it, *I* don't have it." (I have to check if their pointed this quote on KJB)
this is really old but they also precipitated it by doing an insane amount of terrorism to cuba and looking like they were preparing to invade. there is no way to interpret the soviets sending nukes and troops other than as defensive action also listen to blowback season 2
Mutually Assured Friendship is something I have kept with me since this episode came out Lolol. Love your podcast, your perspectives, your guests. I’m so glad I found it and I hope more people do. I recommend it to everyone I think would be remotely interested.
58:50 the discussion of this type of proto-computer sounds very familiar to anybody who's watched the Technology Connections video on antique pinball machines. this same kind of electromechanical system is how they managed scoring without microprocessors
OKB wasn't necessary a sharashka. It's just a "Experimental construction bureau" that was dedicated to developing a certain branch of tech. Sharashkas could be labs, institutes, KBs - the only defining thing was that they were established under either KGB or MGB (general police and penitentiary system)
Something I recently learned is that, instead of the cheap $1 safety glasses that every job site hands out for free, you should get a decent $10-$20 with anti-fog lenses so that you aren't constantly tempted to pull them down to see better. I haven't tried them in cold weather yet, but they stay clear if you heavily exhale directly onto them at room temperature, so...
I traveled by rail a few times in Mexico in the early 00's. Trips took twice as long as they did by bus and there seemed to be literally no limit to the number of people they'd stuff into a car, to the point where there would be people sleeping in the toilets on overnight service. Still, it was hella cheap. They also had a Pullman service on some lines. I went on the Monterrey/Mexico City line round trip. I'm also like 90% sure touring services to the Cañon del Cobre were kept even after most of the long-haul passenger services were canceled.
You should cover the time when a guy dropped a socket on a Titan 2 missile causing it to explode. It's a lot more complicated than that and also involves really nasty compounds UDMH:hydrazine 1:1 and NTO.(also will tie nicely into the theme of safety third)
Fun fact about Red Fuming Nitric Acid: the US also attempted to use it as an oxidizer in Project Nike. It was dreadful to work with and pitted all metal surfaces it had even modest contact with. Then, a brilliant aerospace engineer created a corrosion inhibitor for it, and obtained a patent! His name was Irving Kanarek, and he became famous for being Charles Manson's defense attorney, you cannot make this up. Improved our missile fuel and helped Charlie slip the gas chamber. Either a hero or a monster, and I can't tell you which way I feel.
@@williamchamberlain2263 microwaving a mouse is a good way to have small pieces of mouse pasted all over the inside of your microwave. They turn into mouse popcorn but a lot less cohesive I dunno what op does but I put mine straight in warm water to thaw
@@williamchamberlain2263 I put them in a ziplock bag and submerge the bag in warm water. Microwaving a feeder mouse would risk cooking it, and snakes cannot digest cooked meat.
Marshal Nedelin's excessive courage makes me think of that Terry Pratchett line about how cowards make better strategists, and you don't want a general whose plan is "I want fifty thousand of you chappies to rush at the enemy".
There's actually an interesting note about the "NASA spending however many millions to create a pen while the USSR just used a pencil" anecdote - The _reason_ NASA spent however many millions to develop a pen that works in space while the USSR just used a pencil is because NASA needed to create a writing implement that could work in space _and not produce debris._ The Soviet Space Pencil(TM), while incredibly cost effective because you could just use any ol' No.2 actually had the potential to cause, among other things, a fire aboard a spacecraft, which would have been the subject of an episode of the podcast, if that ever happened as described.
0:01 - Why haven't I heard of this one? 1:44 - Oh - is this that rocket with the NO3 from the USSR that dissolved like 60 people when it blew up? 4:20 - Let's all hate Alice. Now. 6:20 - Yup, this is that "Devil's Juice" one 10:38 - "Never hold an inquiry unless you know the outcome." 14:21 - But one of those guys is Dick Cheney. 16:49 - What happens if they extend the missile through the cat lines? 20:01 - Or you want to have two friends and be able to give them both presents at the same time. 26:25 - Nerd alert: These were not the rockets actually in Cuba. The US freaked out because the USSR deployed medium range missiles to Cuba. There was no reason to really worry if ICBM's were in Cuba or the USSR. But when the USSR moved rockets to Cuba, it dramatically increased their ability to hit the US with a present. (Because the USSR actually only had like 20 R-16's and they had a bunch of R-12's and R-14's laying around.)
Watching those tiny people, completely on fire, scattering as they flee at random, then falling and laying still while they continue to burn... That’s grim.
This was a good episode. I enjoy hearing milo on the show. Love a podcast where i just grin for an hour and a half except when i'm cringing about eye injuries.
Nomenclature will vary slightly from place to place. But generally CCU stands for cardiac/coronary care unit; an intensive care unit primarily for cardiac problems. Where I'm at the unit for level of care between the ICU and the general floor is called the progressive care unit (PCU) or step down unit (SDU).
As someone with a passing interest in the game Stormworks, I am now convinced that fire and rescue operations can now be conducted remotely via ICBM. Your local fire department is now a nuclear-powered submarine loaded with ICBMs that can be launched at emergencies anywhere within your hemisphere, possibly even around the entire globe. In fact, why have local fire departments at all when the entire world can share a fleet of fire-fighting long-range submarines? This would also globally save money in the long term, as you only need enough qualified first responders to deploy the rescue/firefighting/paramedic missiles, drastically saving on overall personnel costs. The submersible component is essential due to the need for rapid re-deployments, which may involve traversing adverse weather cells that can be completely bypassed by sub-surface travel. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk, if you are representing the UN and are in need of an ideas man I will happily quit my job to come think of other good ideas for you.
As a Shamokin Resident I've often wondered if the heating value/volume of the Anthracite culm stockpiled in the Glen Burn (the former record holder for largest artificial mountain) is comparable or even superior to that of the Powder Creek Basin Bituminous Coal.
I've been falling asleep to WTYP and I just dreamed that I was listening to an episode where the fire suppression systems on the world's biggest cigar stopped working and a guy smoked it and died
@daniiel mlinarics That's lame. The switching should constantly go on for about three days. On day three, the stop signal is given and every country keeps the name it currently has for the next ten years.
Fun fact! Red fuming nitric acid (RFNA) was also used for a while in a number of rocket and missile systems by all the teams in this era. Eventually it was replaced by even more toxic, even more high energy compounds. The Americans had the same issue with tank corrosion, including during manufacture and storage because it kept melting through the railroad tankers they used to transport it around. However, American chemists managed to eventually make it less corrosive (although equally toxic, corrosive and explosive) by adding our old friend, hydrofluoric acid! Turns out the hydrofluoric acid attacks the steel tanks even faster than the nitric, forming a layer of basically impermeable metal fluoride. This is basically a self-healing protective layer so the double-acid is basically safe - unless you scratch the surface too badly and then it all goes very bad very quickly. By my estimation, this makes inhibited red fuming nitric acid (IFRNA) the only thing on Earth that's made *safer* by mixing it with hydrofluoric acid! (Side note: pyro valves, 80 hour working weeks, ultra-toxic propellants and all this stuff is just a regular day at the office for those of us with the pleasure of working with rocketry. Not just a soviet thing)
Sees picture of can light trims: 'Someone lost an eye didn't they?' There's a special hell where the people that design shit like are required to install them, with the instructions that they came with, for all eternity.
I would guess that the 2/3 usage of the eye was referring to the area of his old visual range that can still be seen. I had a somewhat similar injury to my lense and now part of my FOV is gone where the scar is on my lens
I'm glad you guys don't take the negative comments seriously, love the way you guys "operate" and it would be a shame if anything changed. Keep up the tangents and trolling though it is always hilarious!
Sorry, I misheard the request. Instead of a Mercedes Sprinter, I have a Class 153 Sprinter to deliver. Unfortunately, it weights 41.2 tonnes, so I can't deliver it on the R-16, but it can be delivered by rail.
Ooh ooh I havent started yet, but let me guess: they should have not constructed it entirely out of oil, they should not have done the illegal thing to make an extra buck, and they should have made the thing more rigid
Lmao I love how wrong I was by assuming it was an western disaster. Instead it was a classic " The gang did what Most Important Comrade told them to do instead of stopping the thing when it started visibly breaking in front of them" moment
They can’t fire Alice. She and the activate windows prompt have unionized. With their two out of four votes they can now block whatever motions they want.
Just like Russia & PRC on the UN Security Council!
*MASSIVE USSR DROP*
I think they fired Activate Windows though lol. But I'm pretty sure Alice is safe. Shed never make the unspeakable mistake Activate windows did
They could however put Alice on the end of an ICMB and deliver her to a location near you in just under 4 minutes.
I heard the activate windows button was on the Epstein Flight Logs
Pretty sure activate windows quit. It didn't sound like they were paying the logo, and no one should have to work for free.
The fun thing about this podcast is that everyone who doesn’t like it is bad and wrong
Yes
It's our litmus test
this statement is fact
As a fellow Ryan, couldn't agree more.
@@synthmage00 yes
oh to be a tank of rocket fuel uncontrollably spewing corrosive orange gas onto the launch pad
hey look it's the voice-actor dude, you have good taste in podcasts voice-actor dude.
I read this in luke voice too
Hey, it's the guy!
Usually when that happens to me my girlfriend gets mad and I have to wash the sheets
Sounds like the last time I had enchiladas.
A guy fucking up to the degree that nothing is left of him but a charred medal and watch is strong "the ending to an insane short movie" energy
"Soviet Dr. Strangelove"
Fuckin Wile E. Coyote ass death. Surprised his eyebrows weren't left too to waggle at the camera
Seems like the ending to a Twilight zone episode warning us all about the dangers of nukes or something
@@augustzeidman4443 or a sign saying "call a doctor"
Picturing the shots of him checking his watch satisfied with how ahead of schedule they were, and once when he touches the medal and a blank spot beside it.
Hey it's the safety third guy I'll explain a little more here. I was trying to keep it within the page so I had to be a little vague. But the rods with the 90 degree barbs on the end are the springs. You bend those back until they are in line with the hole at the top of the cone. After this all happened we did some jobsite science and when we released the spring like he did into his eye it could shoot through three pieces of cardboard. The hooks are a very shallow C shape and you insert the 90 degree bends into the opening in the side of the C. When you push up on the whole trim the rods spread back out sucking the trim into the ceiling.
This is a common thing for me to do so I guess I take for granted that this concept is a simple thing for me and not for people not in the trade. I could do a million safety thirds for this single job lol.
"I could do a million safety thirds for this single job lol."
Thank you for your service.
Thanks for your contribution; hope your coworker's doing alright
fascinating. I hope you get to feature in a listener's special or something of the sort
I did understand it. No idea why the podcasters couldn't.
@@miabobeea2644 well he's not my coworker anymore lol
Yellowstone here. The geysers are actually coal fired since 1958 when the earthquake was staged to hide the switch.
So the caldera explosion was a coal dust explosion?
@@zyavoosvawleilte1308
The bison are also coal fired.
@@tarvisbickler3787 Is it like those old movies of "imagine a world without X" where x= coal?
As portrayed in Paul Walker's debut role, 'Meet the Deedles'.
Are you planning to switch away from coal anytime soon, or would that provoke legal action from Wyoming?
Obligatory response to the russian pencil story: both americans and russians used to use graphite pencils, but graphite powder floating in zero gravity would get into all the electronics and short-circuit shit. NASA started working on a space pen, didn't really pan out, then the Fisher company developed one that worked, and now both americans and russians use them in their space programs.
Do they still use them? I would think PDAs would be cheaper and more reliable then space pens. I know IBM supplied NASA with ThinkPad laptop for space travel back in the 1990s.
From what I gather, a standard ballpoint point, like one of the really cheap ones, would work in space just as well. As they are not in fact gravity fed. So in real life, as opposed to the apocryphal story, no one actually wins. But try telling that to the people who delight in telling the story like it has some sort of meaningful point.
@@plutodelendaest8241 Have you ever tried to use a ballpoint pen upside down? It stops working pretty fast.
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Sharpies are the writing implement of choice on spaceships. They don't care which way is up, and write on anything.
@@TheScottWolcott But there is no real "up" or "down" in space, those labels are just applied for convenience usually in reference to the nearest body you are orbiting - or the "roof" and "bottom" of the spacecraft, but either of those could be pointing "down" towards the planet or "up" away from it at any given moment.
Laughed way too hard at the "mutually assured friendship" bit.
Missed a trick on Mutually Assured Delivery
"Second present capability" is what got me.
Friends til the end ;)
Mutually assured friendship.
Mutually Assured Donation
"We haven't knocked out their regifting capability, sir!"
"My god."
I just want to comment on this podcast's high production values. I've watched a lot of podcasts in my time, and they don't even have slides. This is the only one that is good.
Fire Alice? Fire Liam? F--- no! _CLONE_ Alice and Liam so that we can have even more hilarious interruptions and the episodes can last for 6 hours 💖
Send Alice and Liam into The Caves™
Send them to podcast gulag, where the episodes are 14 hours long every day with no breaks.
Mexican here, who was raised in Mexico City, with a few comments about the God Damn News. First of all, it's a little sad that as soon as I saw this news, I was like "damn! my city will get mentioned in in WTYP!".
Route 12 had issues since it opened, even much earlier than the 2017 earthquake. A few months after this line opened, they had to close an entire section because of problems with the rails, among others. I only got to ride this line once, back in 2014, and I was terrified the whole time because the train felt wobbly. The 2017 earthquake just made things worse.
The older routes, the ones built in the 70s, were much better built and actually survived the 1985 earthquake without damage (unlike large parts of the city). For a long time, I would have felt safer from an earthquake in one of these stations than in my apartment building. The new lines? Not so much.
The 1975 accident mentioned was also a subway accident, not a passenger train: a subway train rear-ended another one that was stopped at a station, and about 39 people died. For years, people would avoid the first and last cars in the subway for fear of this accident. If you wanted better chances to get a seat, you'd go to the front or the back. I always did.
Also I remember at least 2 passenger train trips as a kid, departing from Mexico City, but this was probably before 1985, so the 1990s estimate for the disappearance of passenger trains in Mexico tracks.
I lived in Mexico City till I was 40, and traveled by subway to school and work for years and years. This piece of news really broke my heart.
Thanks for covering this accident, and reminding me of my poor, monstrous city that I love and miss so much.
Fun fact, apparently marshal Nedellin was an artillery advisor for the Spanish Republic during the Spanish Civil War, technically making him an antifa before it was even cool to be one
Hey now it has always been cool to be an antifa
So the fucker has always been on the wrong side, huh?
The "Republic" consisted of a bunch of really nasty Communists who tried to enslave the Spaniards and who killed everybody on their own side who wasn't fanatic enough.
@@peterfireflylund the gall of calling someone else nasty when you got that haircut 🤣
@@GeraintDafis no, but I actually know how bad Communists are. You can look up the numbers in the Spanish Civil War and you can read what the two main sides did. It is clear (despite the strong left-wing bias in most sources) that the Communists were monsters and that it was a good thing that Franco won. Please go and do the same.
@@peterfireflylund The Republic was a democratically elected government and the Soviet-aligned communicts only took power after the elected government fled Madrid early in the war. THE MILITARY COUP ATTEMPT DIRECTLY AIDED THE COMMUNISTS IN TAKING POWER. Fight me on this subject because I could bully your ignorant ass all day about it.
Rocz in Philadelphia: Hm I sure hope I don’t get killed by rocket debris
Me in New Zealand 8k miles away: Hm I sure hope don’t get killed by rocket debris
@@EmeraldLavigne kilomiles really carried WTYP energy
41:26 Nedelin: "I'm going to oversee this entire thing myself"
Truly slavic leadership! 10 years ago certain Polish general said something similar and waltzed in to the cockpit of president's airliner during the landing in Smolensk.
That is episode 64
"Śmiało, zmieścisz się" [roughly: go boldly, you'll fit it]
56:29 fun fact: This is also basically how some sea mines are triggered. The little pokey out bits on the mine have a glass ampule inside that contain the acid half of a lead acid battery, and when a ship hits the mine and the glass breaks it flows down onto a lead cathode/anode generating a small current that trips the trigger and detonates the mine.
I always wondered thanks for that
those types of mines always remind me of finding nemo
which is why these types of mines remain dangerous for many years after they are laid
Mexico City used to just run narrow gauge steam commuter trains through the middle of the street until 1973 and they need to just do that again
Makes sense: can't be much more dangerous than the trams in Amsterdam; those drivers have seen _way_ too many tourists to ever slow down to avoid a maiming.
Tacoma Narrows Bridge Episode coming up next, yay!
@@williamclark5859 what are you talking about? They are doing it next week. They said so.
When California HSR opens right?
Next one is ep. 69, it's now or never
It's about time they cover that Albanian national treasure.
Hell yeah episode 69
me: clicks on new WTYPP video "i've never heard of this disaster"
"that looks like a rocket pad"
ROZ: "what is a ICBM?"
me: "this is going to be terrible or really funny"
To borrow from a different Alice podcast, "rocket fall down, Mr Osted".
@@ewanhogg3068 indeed
Why not both
Turns it it's both.
Or? OR?
I had to work with hydrazine briefly in graduate school. However, we were a biology lab and didn't really have space for reactive organics. So I expressed my concerns about safe handling and storage to my advisor and got a lecture about "not being afraid of chemicals."
I only needed a very small amount, but the smallest bottle available was 100 mL, so there's a university biochemistry lab out there with a bottle of rocket fuel sitting unused in a spare flammables cabinet.
@@crutoniggy234 What could possibly go wrong?
What do u need hydrazine for in a biology lab. The things hopelessly toxic as well as hypergolic.
@@TheFirebird123456 My project was to controllably couple antibodies onto a macromolecular scaffold, so I was playing around with carbohydrate redox chemistry to try and link them through their glycocylation sites.
@@crutoniggy234 that sounds like a ridiculously huge molecule. What's the advantage of that vs normal antibodies?
I wonder if there’s an alternate universe in which WTYP does the Tacoma Narrows Bridge disaster every week.
We're in the keyhole timeline where they never cover it.
@@nanothrill7171 but they said they’re going to cover it next week. This time they’re for real, I can feel it
@@ryans4877 and i know i shouldn't say it but i feel it in the aiiiir an episode about the tacoma narrows bridgeee
Yes, and in that timeline, the next episode is always the Boston molasses disaster.
@@TuckerWhite94 no the next episode is always about Groverhaus.
Thanks to my ADHD, this is the fifth time I've listened to this episode and I finally *actually heard* the whole thing.
This is a comment entirely on me and not this podcast which, unlike my mental health, is consistently excellent. Thank you seriously I really love your show ✨
Mood, also same
It's also the same 5 time I've listened to this episode, but that's on account of how it's one of my favourites.
im on my second listen for the same reason. adhd isnt all bad :)
wait i think i misunderstood. u meant you watched it in five parts. im watching the whole thing a second time bc my memory is bad due to the adhd so its almost a new video to me
Having installed those trims before, I 100% understood the mechanics.
Imagine a pair of chopsticks, that to "close", you have to fight the stiffest d*mn spring you've ever had to fight. They can be a PAIN to hold shut normally, and if you let go they will IMMEDIATELY spring back. (The springs are to force the rods into the hooks and provide tension).
What it sounds like is, due to the undersized holes, when the dude was installing the trim, a rod clipped the edge of hole, causing him to let go of one of the rods. Thanks to the spring, it immediately flung outward, and into his eye.
(For reference, I've fought those trims before because even with a normal hole you're have to hold the rods shut whilst standing on a ladder with no point of contact beyond your feet, being careful not to yank the socket out of the trim whilst you try to align 4 hooks on the spring loaded rods high up in the can.)
This episode has gone on a shockingly long time without Alice doing the Soviet national anthem drop...
i love how in so many of these there's some guy on site who is supposedly very intelligent and very in charge, who is yelling at everyone to do something incredibly stupid that then ends in death and disaster. and either no one is around to try and challenge him or he just shouts over the one guy who does.
its prettymuch the soviet union in a nutshell >.
Timestamps! Maybe? If UA-cam stops deleting them:
00:00:04 - well there's your problem
0:07:33 - the goddamn news (starting with Mexico's second worse train disaster -off: just read atlas shrugged and this is fitting)
0:12:00 - news: Santa Claus's revenge in Wyoming
0:16:23 - buytwominous
0:16:39 - are you compensating for something with this rocket sir?
0:17:30 - what is an ICBM?
0:20:58 - R16
0:21:30 - Justin says amongus
Hello I am Mikhail, local Soviet rocket builder #703, we are here to negotiate more and longer smoke breaks in deeper larger bunkers
I'm really in my feelings about Alice and her role in this podcast, but just in the sense that I think she's cool and smart and funny
Yay Liam, but also Yay Alice.
an important dialectic
The Hegelian synthesis of Alice and Liam, Aliam.
@@Jacob-Day ...Lice?
Yay, more Milo.
And Yay Liam and Alice, too.
And yay Rocz!
Meanwhile in the smoking bunker:
Vodya: "Suka blyat what is that outside?!"
Misha: "Is probably avrora borealskaya. Problem of somebody else."
Burning person tangled in barbed wire choking on poison fumes: "Help!"
"The Actors borealskaya? At this time of day, comrade? At this time of year? Located entirely within People's Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan, Comrade?"
"Da."
"Can I see it?"
"Nyet."
"The present is also very heavy..." - I am dying here.
"and then he decided to direct the operation from a lawn chair, right next to the rocket" was the perfect time for that Soviet national anthem drop.
Ho boy RFNA before we really figured out how to stop it from eating through storage tanks, what could go wrong? 🧐
Btw, the book "Ignition! An informal history of rocket propellants" is basically WTYP but as a book written by someone in the industry, it's awesome.
Btw2, in the industry they call it UDMH because its such a pain to say and write.
Ignition! is the bomb. Oh yes.
i still need to finish this one,
im at the incident where his team almost blew up an aircraft carrier...
I’ll say again, the book is 100% worth the price on Amazon/the kindle store,
It’s easily readable by the layman (the author explains things without being condescending)- it’s a shame they didn’t write more books, afaik-
Btw, the foreword is by Isaac Asimov!
My great-great-grandfather was named Mitrofan, so I always thought of it as one of the now uncommon, but not overly obscure name.
Didn't want to let 'pyrotechnically-actuated podcast' slip by completely unappreciated, it's a pretty good description of the show.
I ain't worried about Wyoming suing me. It's a many fortnight's journey in the fastest Conestoga wagon to my jurisdiction, and I doubt they'll find adequate horse parking anyway. They'll have to hitch their horses up far outside of town and mosey all the way in on foot.
And if my favorite childhood videogame was any guide on such a journey, they'll just drown trying to ford too deep of a river or die from dysentery on the way.
living next to Wyoming I can confirm the validity of their primary mode of transportation for official government business is, in fact, coal fired bison.
@@Mercgribern I'm now imagining a giant, steam-powered cast-iron bison rolling down a freeway at 8 miles per hour, blocking all the traffic lanes, on its way to serve process on the California Attorney General
"it's in Ukraine at the time of this recording." as of March 6, 2022 it still is; hopefully it will stay that way.
yep still here despite the haters' best efforts
@@theonewhosmellsverynice The Haters (Armed Forces of the Russian Federation)
@@jbkjbk1999 they be malding
January 26th... _still_ a Ukraine.
This bid aged well
May 5th '23
Ukraine remains, and looks to be here to stay
also, regarding the player piano thing, that was avionics back then and for quite a long time, I try and collect bits where I can find it. you didn’t have cost effective integrated circuits or computers so you did your math with gears and cam followers
The videos on 1940s/50s fire control mechanical computers for US Navy have some crazy mechanisms.
While f'n awsum, those are analog computers. The sequencers are more like the old program selector on a washing machine (the one that rotates and clicks each time something has to happen)
@@TiagoJoaoSilva oh shoot thanks for correcting me! I haven’t been lucky enough to come across something like that yet, I’ll keep my eyes open at swap meets once I’m able to go outside again and safely be around lots of people
Liam be careful with that Sprinter: my GF saw a bunch off the road,tipped over because the wind in the Rockies was so bad.High gravity center. Good luck kid.
Loving the regular schedule. Yall are killing it as always
Liam always seems to sound a bit further away than everyone else. I like to imagine he's just sitting behind Roz shouting at / past him.
What, no pinned Comment yet? Must be that this is unobjectionable.
Usually takes like an hour
9 hours later and still no pinned comment.
Must be a good episode.
the tankies were all in Russia for the Victory Day parade
Update: 23 hours.
Are you sure this general guy wasn't working with the US to wipe out the USSR nuclear weapons team?
Also, the USSR apparently was very good at implementing security measures but very bad at following security protocols. This shows you why you need both standards and practices, we love you OSHA.
Good to know that real rocket engineers also fuck up the staging sometimes. Makes me feel better about always getting it wrong first try in KSP.
It takes a special talent at creating catastrophes to have your catastrophe named not after the place it happened or the type of it but after yourself.
1:06:44 I might be wrong, but technically, didn't the USA precipitate the Cuban Missile Crisis by placing their short range ICBMs in Turkey first?
Sounds like a solid root cause analysis to me.
I’ll allow it!
Yes. Debate the wisdom of Soviet nuclear policy all you like, but their position was fundamentally a defensive and reactive one.
Soviets took their missiles out of Cuba and USA took their missiles out of Turkey.
"That's Détente, Comrade; *You* don't have it, *I* don't have it." (I have to check if their pointed this quote on KJB)
this is really old but they also precipitated it by doing an insane amount of terrorism to cuba and looking like they were preparing to invade. there is no way to interpret the soviets sending nukes and troops other than as defensive action
also listen to blowback season 2
Mutually Assured Friendship is something I have kept with me since this episode came out Lolol. Love your podcast, your perspectives, your guests. I’m so glad I found it and I hope more people do. I recommend it to everyone I think would be remotely interested.
Hey everyone, hope you're all taking care of yourselves and staying well.
Thanks dude!
58:50 the discussion of this type of proto-computer sounds very familiar to anybody who's watched the Technology Connections video on antique pinball machines. this same kind of electromechanical system is how they managed scoring without microprocessors
"Maybe you want second present capability" might be my favorite WTYP joke ever.
WE MUST NOT ALLOW A FRIEND GIFT GAP!!!
OKB wasn't necessary a sharashka. It's just a "Experimental construction bureau" that was dedicated to developing a certain branch of tech.
Sharashkas could be labs, institutes, KBs - the only defining thing was that they were established under either KGB or MGB (general police and penitentiary system)
Something I recently learned is that, instead of the cheap $1 safety glasses that every job site hands out for free, you should get a decent $10-$20 with anti-fog lenses so that you aren't constantly tempted to pull them down to see better. I haven't tried them in cold weather yet, but they stay clear if you heavily exhale directly onto them at room temperature, so...
They don't work in the cold... I've used the more expensive ones and they're junk
@@William-Morey-Baker Drat. Still good for summer, I suppose. Especially until masks go away.
On October 23 2077, China and America traded presents, no one survived to see the gender reveal.
Fallout?
Baby Showers, baby showers never change...
I traveled by rail a few times in Mexico in the early 00's. Trips took twice as long as they did by bus and there seemed to be literally no limit to the number of people they'd stuff into a car, to the point where there would be people sleeping in the toilets on overnight service. Still, it was hella cheap.
They also had a Pullman service on some lines. I went on the Monterrey/Mexico City line round trip. I'm also like 90% sure touring services to the Cañon del Cobre were kept even after most of the long-haul passenger services were canceled.
Amogus, on my favorite podcast. What is life
I died
Always a pleasure when I rock up to the office and find there's a new episode to keep the ennui of endlessly drawing and reviewing schematics at bay.
You should cover the time when a guy dropped a socket on a Titan 2 missile causing it to explode. It's a lot more complicated than that and also involves really nasty compounds UDMH:hydrazine 1:1 and NTO.(also will tie nicely into the theme of safety third)
The Damascus incident! I remember seeing a PBS thing on that once, I think it also had the bonus of maybe nuking the nearby DNC
Yay Liam
Also yay Alice
Furthermore yay Roz
Edit: in conclusion yay Milo
Best moments for me are:
40:55 - 41:44 Mr corrosive
42:59 - 43:27 Soviet Overtime
43:59 - 45:40 Genius Engineering
46:13 - 47:01 Smart Ideas
47:43 + 48:20 100% safe
49:21 - 50:06 Function correctly
50:16 - 51:14 + 54:22 - 54:50 Chad of the Soviet Union
55:36 - 56:40 + 57:01 - 57:27 + 59:22 Liftof-... Oh
01:02:43 Broken Piano
Fun fact about Red Fuming Nitric Acid: the US also attempted to use it as an oxidizer in Project Nike. It was dreadful to work with and pitted all metal surfaces it had even modest contact with. Then, a brilliant aerospace engineer created a corrosion inhibitor for it, and obtained a patent! His name was Irving Kanarek, and he became famous for being Charles Manson's defense attorney, you cannot make this up. Improved our missile fuel and helped Charlie slip the gas chamber. Either a hero or a monster, and I can't tell you which way I feel.
this one sent me, the USSR has the best engineering disasters (with slides)
Top ten podcast to wait for my snake's dinner (mouse) to thaw to
Do you microwave them, or put them in a bag and submerse that in water?
@@williamchamberlain2263 microwaving a mouse is a good way to have small pieces of mouse pasted all over the inside of your microwave. They turn into mouse popcorn but a lot less cohesive
I dunno what op does but I put mine straight in warm water to thaw
@@williamchamberlain2263 I put them in a ziplock bag and submerge the bag in warm water. Microwaving a feeder mouse would risk cooking it, and snakes cannot digest cooked meat.
"Turns out dog does not like space" *pained laugh*
Marshal Nedelin's excessive courage makes me think of that Terry Pratchett line about how cowards make better strategists, and you don't want a general whose plan is "I want fifty thousand of you chappies to rush at the enemy".
There's actually an interesting note about the "NASA spending however many millions to create a pen while the USSR just used a pencil" anecdote - The _reason_ NASA spent however many millions to develop a pen that works in space while the USSR just used a pencil is because NASA needed to create a writing implement that could work in space _and not produce debris._ The Soviet Space Pencil(TM), while incredibly cost effective because you could just use any ol' No.2 actually had the potential to cause, among other things, a fire aboard a spacecraft, which would have been the subject of an episode of the podcast, if that ever happened as described.
0:01 - Why haven't I heard of this one?
1:44 - Oh - is this that rocket with the NO3 from the USSR that dissolved like 60 people when it blew up?
4:20 - Let's all hate Alice. Now.
6:20 - Yup, this is that "Devil's Juice" one
10:38 - "Never hold an inquiry unless you know the outcome."
14:21 - But one of those guys is Dick Cheney.
16:49 - What happens if they extend the missile through the cat lines?
20:01 - Or you want to have two friends and be able to give them both presents at the same time.
26:25 - Nerd alert: These were not the rockets actually in Cuba. The US freaked out because the USSR deployed medium range missiles to Cuba. There was no reason to really worry if ICBM's were in Cuba or the USSR. But when the USSR moved rockets to Cuba, it dramatically increased their ability to hit the US with a present. (Because the USSR actually only had like 20 R-16's and they had a bunch of R-12's and R-14's laying around.)
fucking cackled at 3am from "I made him into an amogus"
Watching those tiny people, completely on fire, scattering as they flee at random, then falling and laying still while they continue to burn...
That’s grim.
In hindsight, the Ukraine jokes are still a little funny
well, they are funnier now since they were wrong about russia annexing ukraine in any way
With 2 more years of a hindsight even joke about delivering non-nuclear gifts with ICBM become more funny. The episode ages like wine.
25 minutes in and I'm having to check when this was put up. Congrats on the evergreen episode y'all.
You can use one missile to deliver presents to several friends at once so long as they live close enough together.
This was a good episode. I enjoy hearing milo on the show. Love a podcast where i just grin for an hour and a half except when i'm cringing about eye injuries.
Nomenclature will vary slightly from place to place. But generally CCU stands for cardiac/coronary care unit; an intensive care unit primarily for cardiac problems. Where I'm at the unit for level of care between the ICU and the general floor is called the progressive care unit (PCU) or step down unit (SDU).
rocket fall down mr. Bond
The worst fate known to man:becoming an amogus
I assume that someone's already said this, but read _Ignition_ - it's an amazing book about an insane period of rocket development.
Found it;.
Ignition! An Informal History of Liquid Rocket Propellants
by John Drury Clark, 1972
And it really earns that exclamation mark.
Turning oil back into fish? Does that mean the Deepwater Horizon was BP trying to go green?
As someone with a passing interest in the game Stormworks, I am now convinced that fire and rescue operations can now be conducted remotely via ICBM. Your local fire department is now a nuclear-powered submarine loaded with ICBMs that can be launched at emergencies anywhere within your hemisphere, possibly even around the entire globe. In fact, why have local fire departments at all when the entire world can share a fleet of fire-fighting long-range submarines? This would also globally save money in the long term, as you only need enough qualified first responders to deploy the rescue/firefighting/paramedic missiles, drastically saving on overall personnel costs. The submersible component is essential due to the need for rapid re-deployments, which may involve traversing adverse weather cells that can be completely bypassed by sub-surface travel.
Thank you for coming to my TED Talk, if you are representing the UN and are in need of an ideas man I will happily quit my job to come think of other good ideas for you.
As a Shamokin Resident I've often wondered if the heating value/volume of the Anthracite culm stockpiled in the Glen Burn (the former record holder for largest artificial mountain) is comparable or even superior to that of the Powder Creek Basin Bituminous Coal.
I can't believe you missed "EyeCBM" when you were joking about the springs being eyeball seeking missiles
I've been falling asleep to WTYP and I just dreamed that I was listening to an episode where the fire suppression systems on the world's biggest cigar stopped working and a guy smoked it and died
your subconscious brain is the funniest, you win
5:08 every 10 years or so someone in the balkans just yells out CHANGE PLACES! and all the countries swap randomly. I want that now.
"Wait, I booked a beach vacation in Croatia; where is the coast?"
"In Slovakia."
"And where am I now?"
"In North Macedonia."
@daniiel mlinarics That's lame.
The switching should constantly go on for about three days.
On day three, the stop signal is given and every country keeps the name it currently has for the next ten years.
Fun fact! Red fuming nitric acid (RFNA) was also used for a while in a number of rocket and missile systems by all the teams in this era. Eventually it was replaced by even more toxic, even more high energy compounds. The Americans had the same issue with tank corrosion, including during manufacture and storage because it kept melting through the railroad tankers they used to transport it around. However, American chemists managed to eventually make it less corrosive (although equally toxic, corrosive and explosive) by adding our old friend, hydrofluoric acid! Turns out the hydrofluoric acid attacks the steel tanks even faster than the nitric, forming a layer of basically impermeable metal fluoride. This is basically a self-healing protective layer so the double-acid is basically safe - unless you scratch the surface too badly and then it all goes very bad very quickly.
By my estimation, this makes inhibited red fuming nitric acid (IFRNA) the only thing on Earth that's made *safer* by mixing it with hydrofluoric acid!
(Side note: pyro valves, 80 hour working weeks, ultra-toxic propellants and all this stuff is just a regular day at the office for those of us with the pleasure of working with rocketry. Not just a soviet thing)
Sees picture of can light trims: 'Someone lost an eye didn't they?'
There's a special hell where the people that design shit like are required to install them, with the instructions that they came with, for all eternity.
47:23 NSFW but the funniest thing I’ve heard all month. thank you, Milo
Callback at 50:07 now that’s efficiency!
I would guess that the 2/3 usage of the eye was referring to the area of his old visual range that can still be seen. I had a somewhat similar injury to my lense and now part of my FOV is gone where the scar is on my lens
The 'presents' metaphor for nuking is easily my favourite WTYP bit
Soviet rocket fall down Mr. Bond.
the wyoming thing is literally that mr show episode where a film studio sues to make everyone in the us watch their movie
It's amazing how much of that show was flat-out predictive.
I had a Soviet watch and it once fell on the floor and broke the floor tiles.
Bad quality watch then. Usually they punch a hole through the Earth's crust and crystallize a chunk of magma around them.
Pilot movements are bad but the cases are like depleted uranium.
I'm watching all of these sort of out of order and can I just say the Ukraine jokes aged... interestingly lol.
Well, Ukraine was being invaded already since 2014...
The best thing about always being late to the podcast uploads is that the comments are spicy already by the time I get here.
in Ukraine - for now - at the time of recording, hits a little differently now
are you okay bud?
I'm glad you guys don't take the negative comments seriously, love the way you guys "operate" and it would be a shame if anything changed. Keep up the tangents and trolling though it is always hilarious!
[all-consuming ball of fire overwhelming four people comes onscreen]
"So they had made a couple *crucial* deviations from protocol, right?"
Sorry, I misheard the request. Instead of a Mercedes Sprinter, I have a Class 153 Sprinter to deliver. Unfortunately, it weights 41.2 tonnes, so I can't deliver it on the R-16, but it can be delivered by rail.
Ooh ooh I havent started yet, but let me guess: they should have not constructed it entirely out of oil, they should not have done the illegal thing to make an extra buck, and they should have made the thing more rigid
Lmao I love how wrong I was by assuming it was an western disaster. Instead it was a classic
" The gang did what Most Important Comrade told them to do instead of stopping the thing when it started visibly breaking in front of them" moment
48:15 Yeah, definitely getting KSP flashbacks here. Nothing like messing up your separator sequence...
Check yo staging! If that doesn’t work you need moor boosters