The Fate Of Alicent Hightower | House Of The Dragon History & Lore |Dance Of The Dragons (Aegon iii)
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- The Fate Of Alicent Hightower after the dance of the dragons is a sad and lonely one. All her children were dead, and only her granddaughter the little queen Jaehaera still lived. But even then the girl was as broken as the boy king Aegon iii. A deadly winter fever was moving from port to port and now it had come to Kings Landing' where it would claim the lives of the high lords and small folk with no regard for station. The winter fever had it's sight set on the Dowager Queen Alicent Hightower.
00:00:00 The Murdered King's Guard
00:00:52 The Winter Fever Comes To King's Landing
00:02:38 Munkin's Investigation
00:03:04 Tyland Locks Down Kings's Landing
00:03:48 Deaths Of The Fever
00:04:35 The Final Fate Of Alicent Hightower
The Dance Of The Dragons will be the focus of the plot of the new HBO spin-off House Of The Dragon coming in 2022. So if you want to learn the story before we see HBO's take on it then this will be a very long-running series. Game Of Thrones / House of the dragon are HBO shows based on George R R Martin's A Song Of Ice And Fire series. The information in this video comes from the books a world of ice and fire as well as fire and blood.
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Queen Rhaenyra Targaryen was trapped on Dragonstone by her brother King Aegon ii with no way to escape her fate. What was to come was the final showdown between the two main players of the dance of the dragons and bring the war into its final phase. The House of the dragon was crumbling and the events that was about to follow would only cause more damage to both sides of the war.
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Alicent coming to hate the color green in her final days is just so.... ironic...
Obviously deep down she known that, she's just a goat used by her father, just to take the throne.
*iconic
I wonder if Alicent had nothing but regret once she lost all her children and grandchildren. Did she really feel like it was worth it? I know people defend her saying it was to protect her children but crowning Aegon as King didn't save him nor Aemond, Helena, Jahaerys, Jahaera, Maelor and Daeron. It got them all killed. If she truly wanted to save her children she shouldn't have taught them to hate Rhaenyra and her son's, teaching them to see their nephews as competition causing division within House Targaryen.
Preach
She was not wrong tho. Everything she did was justified as it was to protect her sons. Anyone in her place would've done the same. If not, they would've been stupid to let the lives of their children rest on a strangers shoulders.
@@rohanshende4338 her and her dad are dumb
@@lawrencereid2767 Viserys was dumber. Brought Otto back as Hand. Named a Woman heir to the throne. Then went on to sire a son. Talk about opting to be stupid. 😅
@@rohanshende4338 i dont think it was wrong to name her.......but bringing back otto was very bad lol
You're damn right Alicent never spoke about seeing Viserys again. She probably dreaded facing him in the afterlife and having to explain to him how her actions lead to the deaths of his brother, children and most of his grandchildren. Not to mention that she left him to rot in his chamber for days while she schemed against Rhaenyra. Show Alicent is far more sympathetic, but book Alicent is just a B word on wheels.
Remember that the book is written from the biased perspectives of misogynistic historians and witnesses. She was likely not represented accurately by the accounts in the book
Hes the one who started the succession crisis in the first place, yall really just like to place the blame on women and not her pedo husband
She probably didn't speak of him because he was a weakling that enabled his entitled incompetent whore daughter to make the realm bleed.
@@wallycola5653 written by the maesters who sided with the greens but alright
Daemon and Rhaenyra's actions lead to war and deaths - same or more as Alicent's. She was forced to marry Viserys who hasn't shown much love toward her children - who might have turned different if they were treated with modicum of respect. Book Alicent is sage politician and shown in better light than book Rhaenyra - even suggesting peaceful solution to the War few times - which both Viserys and Rhaenyra refused ( marriage to Aegon, Great Council to decide succession, partition of the Realm)
Viserys: You put our son on the throne?
Alicent: Yes
Viserys: What did it cost?
Alicent: Everything
Yeah pretty much....exactly
Infinity War truly was a disappointment.
The Winter Fever was a tragedy for most of Westeros. For Alicent, it seems to have been a merciful end.
Alicent tried to save her children by crowning Aegon as King, but at the end the war she caused was the event that caused the death of her entire family: her father, her children and most of her grandchildren. And it was for naught, as Rhaenyra would have never killed her half-siblings, and would have given them places of honor in court.
Like we say, "the path to h*ll is through good intentions".
I kinda think that's why Aegon III didn't kill her. Living with the consequences of her ambition was a fate worse than anything he could have thought.
@@youngveteran6368 he wouldn't kill Aegon. He was weak too. Nobody really cared about him. Just used him. Aemon you got me there though
@@youngveteran6368 king's word law. He gave it to a girl. Honestly if they were gonna turn on him should've done it while he was alive. The rest of what you said sour grapes.
@@dynamicsolider102 They would never turned on him while he was alive because they ar cowards and snakes.
@@youngveteran6368 hes not the first born son, he’s one of several. Y’all forget rhaenyras mother had plenty of babies they just didn’t live long. Just because he’s the one that made it to teen years doesn’t mean the other kids are wiped clean. He’s alicents first born not the kingd
@@youngveteran6368 that concept is stupid tho, u do realize that right? So basically what u saying is if aegon dies aemond becomes first born??? No so it’s no different from any other death. Y’all be reaching alicent people be reaching. Viserys didn’t even consider aegon first born but YALL do 🥴🤣
For Alicent, the hate of the color green is herself. She wore that color to fight for children’s rights but in the end, it cost them their lives. I actually feel her no parent should have to outlive their child 😢
She fought for the Hightowers. Her children who are Targaryans were mainly pawns in hers and her fathers plots . Maybe she was tricked by her father as a child but she grow up and followed that path anyway.
@@merykhan97 It's easy for us to blame her, but you're missing the point. Her kids were the true-born children, and viserys decided to overturn the law and precedent out guilt and love for his first wife. Not to mention Rhaerya was arrogant enough to have three bastard kids and didn;t think it would hurt(which to Alicent was insulting). Alicent was far from perfect but unlike other characters, she had a legit grip
@@MalikF15 we’re talking about book Alicent not show Alicent
@@Fayew98 so was I. I’m not saying Alicent was perfect and we all agree despite his short reign Aegon II was a terrible king. Unlike a lot schemers she has legit reasons to be upset. Also her grandkids dying violently was awful
@@MalikF15 she honestly deserved that for her pettiness and stupidity. She only wanted Aegon on the throne to get at Rhaenyra out of jealousy towards her, there’s no way in her right mind she thought that her POS psycho son was a better choice to rule the realm than Rhaenyra who would’ve actually made a good queen before driven mad by the war started by Alicent and her scheming father.
I was wondering how her end would come. At first I thought she’d die screaming but in a way this was far worse. She outlived her entire family and everyone she knew. Even the Velaryons died before her. Then she suffered for days from an illness before joining Rhaenyra into that good night.
Agreed. Alicent outliving her children and grandchildren was the worst way but her choices led to that.
Rhaenyra die by dragon fire while she die by winter fever. The princess and the queen in the song of ice and fire universe
@@sydnitheromantictaylor112after what happens to Helena...i hope she felt all there suffering
@@KillerGothChicki Don’t think so. Rhaenrya curse at Aegon II before she was burn by Sunfyre. She went out much like Laena did. By dragon fire which is the way Targaryen prefer to died.
Why Aegon II died poison which is fitting as he was driven to his grave by the poison his mother planted in his head from the moment he was conscious enough to hear her. He stole the throne from his sister because he bought into Criston’s poison, into Alicent’s into Otto’s. He died poison by his own greens.
He died like no true dragon.
Actually non of them did which is fitting alicent made them believed they never were.
Aegon poison
Helaena stabbed by spikes
Aemond with dark sister push so deep inside his skull came out the back of his throat.
Daeron burn alive inside a tent
Otto beheaded by Rhanerya’s orders.
Jahaerys beheaded
Jahaera by blood lost
Maelor torn apart by a panic crowd.
The blacks
Rhaenrya by dragon fire
Rhaenys by dragon fire
Daemon “died” swallow by the god’s eye.
Jace arrow down, sink into the sea (very Velaryon)
Luke sink into the sea.
Joffrey felt from Syrax’s back died . (Death by falling)
Aegon III, Viserys II, Baela, Rhaena, Alyn and Corlys survived the dance.
I always hear people mainly Team Black complain that she got the easy ending and got away for all of her actions and scheming compared to Rhaenyra.
But imo losing your father, sibling, people around you to war, outliving all of your children who died brutal deaths while going insane is a terrible fate.
Yeesh. The Dance is nothing but layers of misery, loss, and trauma. George must be very pleased with himself 😁
Did anyone miss how kind Aegon III was to the dying Tyland Lannister, holding his hand while he was dying? Tyland planned to have Aegon III killed while he was serving Aegon II, but Aegon III still showed him this kindness...
Aegon the younger such a nice guy who tried his best and who didn't deserve any of that
I think he was able to see the victimhood in others because of his massive traumas. He could look beyond the past and see the suffering man that was Tyland instead of seeing all the politics and intrigue. As horrible as it is, the things he endured made him extremely compassionate.
@@Levacque in what way was Tyland lannister a victim?
@@gennaronarducci1333He was imprisoned and tortured during Rhaenyra's reign resulting in him becoming hideously scarred in his face and blinded. When he was later freed, he would forever wear a hood to cover his face.
Once Aegon III was deemed rightful king, Tyland was chosen as Hand and regent until Aegon came of age. Tyland was competent in the job amidst the adversities he faced. Yes he sided with the Greens but you cannot doubt he served Aegon III loyally and well. Still, he was ostracized by fellow lords and hated unfairly by the citizens/smallfolk of KL. It was to the point that they gossiped Tyland was a monster, sorcerer or nefarious tactician despite Tyland making his best attempts to repair the realm and reassure safety especially when the Winter fever came along.
@@browniebearI wouldn't say he was hated unfairly. He was undirectly the reason Rhaenyra struggled to rule since he emptied the treasury and devided it by 4 . He schemed to usurp the rightful queen , that lead to a devastating war .
He served well as Hand but he has no sympathy from me . (Let's not forget he continued to favor the Greens and opposed the Blacks within the council)
The Dance had no winners 🤝
The Hightowers paid the price they were willing to pay to kill off the dragons
The price they paid was high but they were successful
Except the maestaers
Well the blacks did win because it’s their lineage that will continue. Overall Targaryen lost.
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@@mpalfadel2008
Well, that was never the intent in the beginning to be fair
She regretted fighting her best friend Rhaenyra.
I think tearing the color green is a sign of her regret in starting the war by wearing the color green (THat was the start of the dance)
I don’t know whose fate is worse. Even though rhaenyra got the most brutal death and was eaten piece by piece by a dragon and lost all of her eldest sons besides aegon and viserys, Alicent lost EVERYONE (deservedly so due to her insatiable ambition and her father’s). Amazing how a few greedy people can destroy a powerful dynasty. Honestly it’s the perfect fate for Alicent, to have to live with the horrors of her choices.
How could you possibly justify the death of an entire family? How did she deserve this?
Dude, Rhaenyra was ambitious too, everyone was fighting for survival and their claim to the Throne. How can you say she deserved to see her whole family die?.
The Targaryens, particularly Viserys, is the one to blame for House Targaryen being split
@@thalmoragent9344 1 because it’s a fictional story and 2. Because alicent plotted to steal the crown. Rhaenyra was the heir and this was the cost if alicent and otto’s greed. Rhaenyra wasnt innocent, but she was pledged to as heir and it’s just poetic justice that alicent in alone in the end.
Agreed. It is poetic justice for Alicent to have lived just to lose all her children and grandchildren due to her actions. People claim she did what she did to protect her children and I'm sure in her mind she was doing it to protect them but instead she just got all of them killed.
@@shytguy
Fictional or not, you'd have the same thoughts
Secondly, Rhaenyra was not the rightful/lawful heir, but if you still don't understand you never will
And it wasn't her greed, (Otto sure, but even he was doing what just about any Highborn man in Westeros would push for in his position) she had her kids to worry about, and knew her son by the King was the rightful Heir.
Even in the end, a *First Non-Bastard Male Heir* is who sits the Throne, which is the Ideology that the Greens and their allies fought for the entire time
Justice to have her kids she fought so hard to protect all die in the end? That's sick man, for real...
@@thalmoragent9344 King Viserys named Rhaenyra his heir. King's word trumps any and all laws. If *you* still don't understand you never will.
And Alicent (and her father) WERE greedy. They wanted power. Alicent even wed her daughter and son together to gain more power, and this was after she criticized Targaryen customs.
Alicent knew her dead ex husband was going to kick her in the back side. For killing nearly all of his line.
Since they change Alicent in the show (she probably didn't read to the dying King Jaehaerys in the show storyline), I have a feeling when they eventually show her death, her last words will be about Rhaenyra.
If her last words are about Rhaenyra what do you think she'll say?
If they do get that far, but it would make sense to close off Alicent's story.
@@sydnitheromantictaylor112 " Ma bad sis lmao..we cool.?"
Nah. That would be a cope. Why not her kids or grandkids?
@@sydnitheromantictaylor112 with the show context in.mind she'll probably be haunted by the death of rhenerya and visarys her last words would probably be " I'm sorry I'm sorry sorry" reffuring to both of them .
Yeah, I can't really feel bad for her. You reap what you sow.
At least she weakened that sh*t house lol
@@adriannazara6853 yeah, the hightowers are pretty shitty with their religion zealots obsession.
@@adriannazara6853 was it worth it tho lol
What always surprised me is how House Hightower never faced any long term backlash for their part in this civil war.
Because the maesters write the books and everyone was dead and the ones left alive were tired of war and longed for the peaceful times of viserys.
Because war is hell, and everyone was ready to put to the hatred and bloodshed behind them
@@whisky_icarus8731 The maesters are from Oldtown which is where the Hightower house is from. So of course they're painted more favorably.
Hightowers should have been wiped out!
@@rayan29111997 And how ? After the Dance, House Hightower is virtually the only one that could still raise a worthy army and the richest house on the continent BY FAR since Driftmark and Lannisport were looted. After Aegon's death, they have the power to reignite the fires of the Dance, and the power to win it. They lack a pretender to support and maybe the will to fight. It is simple : the war ended because Oldtown accepted peace.
Like I was once read in Reddit, I think they'll change Alicent's last words in the show if they ever get there.
Her last words will mention her children, but alter the last part: "...And Rhaenyra, we will read together, like we used to when we were children."
I'd like to add another possibility as well. Mirroring her husband's death and if you think she loved Rhaenyra, her last words might also be "Please forgive me, my love".
WHY should she ask mercy of Rhaenyra? She did not wrong her or something. Aegon is the kings first born son so HE DOES have a claim to the throne.And Rhaenyra woulda 100% killed Alicent's children if it came to that. I did not see her apologize for Aemond's eye. That scene made it clear that she would choose HER CHILDREN over Alicents. I did not see her show remorse for Vaemond's death. I did not see her deny when Daemon tossed an innocent guard in fire or bust Rhea's head with a rock. These are all morally grey characters. No one deserves apology from anyone.
@@rohanshende4338 In Fire and Blood, Rhaenyra mentioned that she would have never actually harmed her half-siblings, in the contrary, she would have given them positions of honor in her court.
Now, from the perspective of myself as the writer, the woman is sick and dying, and deluding. She isn't asking for mercy, but for forgiveness.
@@tanoshiofm3852 Killing other successors to secure the throne has happened multiple times in European and Non European monarchies. Alicent was paranoid but I'd be more suprised if she wasn't.
@@rohanshende4338 “i did not see her show remorse for Vaemonds death” dawg if someone called me a whore and my children bastards(even if they are) infront of my kids and a bunch of people, i would be mad to. Also Rhaenyra was the named heir for years. She literally refuses to kill her siblings, even after they usurp her throne and hid the fact that her father died. I swear some of you want to stay oblivious to the show, so you can make your arguments valid. RHAENYRA NEVER WANTED TO KILL HER SIBLINGS. just because she is not a good person doesnt mean she would kill her siblings💀
I 100% can see them at the very least swapping out Jaehaerys for Rhaenrya. Thematically it just makes more sense within the context of the show
I wonder if she felt it was worth it. Lost all her children most of her grandchildren, uncle and brothers. All for what?
We know for what, for her kids to have a better chance to live and have their proper claim.
Exactly. Like she didn't end up saving her children by hiding Viserys's death from Rhaenyra and Daemon just to put Aegon on the throne, she actually put them in more danger.
She knew it was not worth it. That's why she had come to hate the color green, the color of her banner cry for war. And in the end her line ended with the death of her 1st born son and then her remaining granddaughter! Burning alive is more merciful. Over & done.
@@thalmoragent9344 she risked the life of her children by crowning Aegon. Because she rlly thought that the blacks (SPECIALLY DAEMON) and their supporters were gonna be fine with Rhaenyra being ursurped.
@@mercuriology45 daemon is the reason they usurped the throne 😂 if you think daemon would let possible future claimants run around putting his king consort title at risk you clearly haven’t been watching the same show or maybe it’s Matt’s portrayal of him that’s charismatic but I promise you daemon would’ve killed them some how some way
While ultimately House Targaryen lost the Dance Of The Dragons, I feel like the Green faction really had it slightly worse. At least Rhaenyra had her line continue. The Greens had their line decimated and their crowning of Aegon at the end was for nothing since none of their male heirs lived.
What i've seen a lot of people argue in the comments on my 'who won the dance' video is while the blacks bloodline continued, the greens ideology won out when it came to succession. I'm not sure i 100% buy that argument though, it seems a bit of a reach when your adding up all the losses.
@@WorldOfWesteroshow did the greens win it when it was a black that wore the crown when it ended? If that makes sense
@@mikeb1705The greens are considered to have won because their whole argument was that a male outranks a female. When King Baelor died, he was succeeded by Viserys II. However if the blacks had won, Princess Daena would’ve become Baelors successor instead. Westerosi tradition continued to favour sons, as the Greens had always wanted.
@@WorldOfWesterosAgree, but the greens never wanted to put forward an ideology about gender etc. They only wanted to grasp power in any way possible so they invented all this crap/ rehashed old laws
I think with the series of marriages between Alicent and Rhynera's children , would have avoided the war , maybe even marry beala or rahena with aemond or the youngest alicent son . Since everyone is saying how daemon would kill alicent's children . It was actually the green's stupidity and power hungry nature that got them killed , and you cannot change my mind .
It might’ve delayed the war but like judgement day it was inevitable. Too many 2nd and 3rd sons that won’t inherit anything but are dragon riders. Imagine if there were more dragons later on?
I'm with you. The Greens are the main reason for the Dance especially Otto. Then comes Alicent just deciding to hate Rhaenyra for years, teach her son's to hate their half sister and their nephews causing division within House Targaryen. Then I blame Viserys for his lack of action and for being an inattentive father to his other children.
Black supporters are so naive ! After the original show and reading "Fire and Blood", it's incredible ! Looks like you still haven't learned anything about how this universe works. Viserys made war inevitable the day he stripped Aegon of his heir status. The Greens had no choice but to fight.
lmao what??? why did Rhaenyra have supporters then??? Why did northermen march all the way to avenge Rhaenyra??? The greens supporters are the one who are naive. You are watching a story about absolute monarch in which the king's word is law and yet you go against said king but still think it's your right.@@alessiodandolo1460
I think this was the best karma for alicent. She was 18 when she marry Viserys and 19 when she decide to declare war on her 10 years old step daughter. A child. A motherless child. And taught her children to hate and to fear their sister. When Rhanerya not once wanted to kill any of them. She only had that exchange with Aegon after everything that happened in the war.
The former Greens got off pretty well considering all the destruction they caused and then they betrayed Alicent as a loose end.
How was Alicent betrayed and by who? Can you explain?
@@dippy8053 sure Alicent was used as a bit of a scapegoat by the Former Green allies that took power within the Small Council. (i.e. Tyland Lannister Unwin Peake etc.) Former Green Supporters who threw Alicent away from power.
@@Argos-xb8ek was this the regency of aegon iii or the hour of the wolf when Aegon II was murdered?
Girl should’ve just sat back and let Rhaenyra have what Viserys had given her.
Don’t make messes you can’t clean up, Alicent.
To be fair, Rhae was only named heir out of necessity. And if she had come to power, she would've put her bastard sons on the throne. That and they weren't even Targaryens in name, they were Velaryons. If that had happened, Alicent's line would've totally waged war over this (look at the war of 5 kings over Joff's bastard heritage). So with Rhae as the heir, war was inevitable.
Not with Daemon around.
@Kaboomboo You can't compare Cersei's bastard children to Rhaenyra's bastard children. Rhaenyra was named heir and she is a Targaryen. That means that no matter who is the father of her children, her children are her blood and Viserys'. Cersei on the other hand, was married into the royal family. So it is imperative that her children must come from Robert.
Besides, I think Leanor (Rhaenyra's husband), was impotent. It's clear that Rhaenyra is fertile. She had two sexual partners (Harwin Strong and Deamon Targaryen) and was able to have 6 kids. I'm not even going to blame Leanor being gay because gay men do get women pregnant (especially those on the DL). So what exactly was Rhaenyra supposed to do?
If I were in her position, I would have suggested to Leanor for him to bring one of his male relatives (one that is hopefully trustworthy and attractive) for me to sleep with so that our child will have Valeryon blood. At least the children in that sense, will look like a Valeryon.
She Suffered the Same Fate As Helena basically
They both lost their kids but Halaena killed herself because of it. Alicent just died of sickness
except Helena didn't deserve it
Maesters are the real winners in Dance of the dragons. But they also suffered. The Dance brings the return of Old gods to South.
At last she joined with her sons , daughter, grand children, husband, father, relatives and her best friend. She welcomes her with a smile.
It would be poetic justice for Aegon II to end up despising his mother after he lost his siblings and some of his children his dragon and the strength of the Targaryen dynasty
When families go to war, not to mention when the family has dragons is the fire and blood that was House Targaryen…. It was bound to end with no winners, when Arrya talks to Tywin Lannister about the dragons you can see how much history is embedded in her mind of how heroic and majestic the Targaryens were… I really hope they let Westerling…live…
it would be poetic if in the show Alicent contracted Leprosy like king Viserys later on making her literally rot alive and alone in a tower while all contemplating the choices she had made.
I think once Rhaenyra is gone it’ll really start to hit her.
Alicent's fate reminds me of the anti-war themes GRRM puts in his work. Mainly that war benefits no one and only leads to more suffering.
Despite all the effort she put into advancing the Hightowers and putting her son on the throne, Alicent died a broken woman.
This may seem unlikely, but I wonder if Alicent Hightower's last scene(s) in the final episode(s) of HBO's _House of the Dragon_ will feature "Jenny of Oldstones" playing in the background?
Considering Jenny of Oldstones was a song written about 140 years later, it's unlikely
Would be interesting
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Glad you like them. Always good to hear
I think the death of her sons was inevitable. Viserys should have never had children with her if he had no intention of naming anymore heirs.
I never liked Alicent but I felt sorry for her. She lost all her children and grandchildren
All because of that selfish power hungry woman Rhaenyra
@@rohanshende4338 Alicent and her father were the same
@@katarzynaowczarek3297 And Rhaenyra was a throne hungry war monger
@@rohanshende4338 but if not Alicent and Otto, Rhaenyra could to get along with her siblings, maybe except Aemond. Initially Aegon didn't want to be a king but his mother and father crowned him
@@rohanshende4338 the throne was hers by right , how is she a warmonger when the war was started by the greens ? Your rhenerya hate boner is out of control.
I'd say Alicent deserved far worse than being comfortable in her apartments. Aegon III was definitely being lenient and compassionate
It seems the Winter Fever outbreak in King's Landing as depicted in _House of the Dragon_ will have viewers thinking about the real-life COVID outbreak and quarantine in Wuhan, China.
She should have taken Rhaenyra's proposal to wed her son to her daughter!!!
I wasn't aware of how she died. Sadly manipulated by her own father, the one decision she makes results in the utter disaster for her children and grandchildren, plus the Hightower line.
She's not evil, she just bring honor to her family and protect her children.
I hate the book version of Alicent, but I give some respect and sympathy to show's version. It's a tragedy that she was used as a pawn and could never be with Rhaenyra and explore their passion for each other. In a much fairer world, Viserys would get his precious male heir, and Alicent and Rhaenyra would run away together on the back of Syrax.
I do like show Alicent a lot more than book, changing her relationship with Rhaenerya really did a lot for her character
I would say feed her to the dogs but those poor dogs
Like Aegon fed Whorenyra to his dragon? 😂😂😂
@@rohanshende4338 Infront of her inbred son best thing he's done as king
Nobody wins when the family feuds 🏠 🐉 🔥
I think the show will do something different with Jaehaera’s death and they will have her die a bit sooner while Alicent is still alive or they might make Alicent live slightly longer for her to hear the news that her last living descendant is dead. I think that will serve as one symbolic poetic justice of what scheming can cause devastation to your family. I think that the final death in her family will truly break Alicent and make her realize that her and her fathers plan did not come to fruition and it cost the lives of her loved ones. Because after the war, she was locked up and spending the rest of her days in Maegor’s Holdfast because her allies had turned on her and her son Aegon. She was in captivity because Tyland Lannister, a Green, wanted protection for the new regime of Aegon III, a Black. She died completely powerless than she ever was and she would have to bear the thought that even though her son wouldn’t have been the king of westeros, at least he and the rest of her children and grandchildren maybe would have been alive had they let Rhaenyra just ascend the throne without conflict. The show should defintley let Alicent still be alive during Jaehaera’s death becuase that would be a lot more poetic and hard hitting to watch that final domino of your family die in front of your eyes. And think about it the war completely decimated the entire Green faction within 4 years 129AC-133AC. So the Greens, in my opinion, definitely did not win because their goal itself was not to make sure that everyone goes by male precedent, that was just their main weapon of legitimization of their claimant Aegon to take the throne. The real ambitions of Otto and Alicent were for the Hightowers to become more powerful through the Targaryen-Hightower line to rule the Iron throne forever. The Dance of Dragons was all about the battle of the bloodline. And they completely lost that goal because thanks to their plotting their line was decimated within a pathetic 4 year timespan and Rhaenyra’s bloodline triumphed but at a great cost because the dragons went extinct but the blacks at least prevailed over the Greens and their personal pursuit of the dominating bloodline.
Such a great explanation.
Big pleasure to read you.
thank you for listening!
Jaehaera’s death is pretty controversial.
Having the dance end with Jaehaera marrying Aegon III is a much better ending than having Jaeheara die randomly and having some deus ex machina velaryon girl we have never seen or heard of before show up and marry Aegon III instead.
If Jaehera is the mother of Aegon III kids instead ends up being pretty fitting and ironic given what happens with Daena Targaryen and the Blackfyres.
What fate to be left with watch everyone die around you that you love and care for…
Thats life
It's satisfying to know Alicent Hightowers family got wiped out of the face of the world!
Rhaenyra and Daemon's family lived on to sit on the iron throne!
The Hightowers remain a powerful existing family that everyone loves. The Targaryens are gone, exiled, and nearly extinct, and nobody misses them. They ruined Westeros worse than the ironborn could ever do.
How is it satisfying knowing that a family of a noble house gets wiped out. And Jaehaera is also Daemon and Rhaenyra's family
@@Thrawn23.except she dies not long after alicent
@@arunsingla3452 I thought she died before Alicent did
I believe a lot of dumb bs could of been avoided if " tradition" was thrown out the window and Rhaenys sat at the throne, She was far more competent to be queen. Viserys wasn't a horrible ruler, however it was clear he wasn't made to be king. I love Rhaenyra but I'm still 50/50 if she would of made a good queen. Aegon 100% horrible.
Just my opinion tho
Jaehaerys gave the realm a choice and they chose Viserys but Viserys didnt give the realm a choice that is the kings prerogative.
@@yusufraage8554 yessssss agreed !!!!
Rhaenyra is the worst ! At least, Aegon fights his own battles.
Nope keep the tradition because it’s what’s widely accepted it’s not some woman empowerment ish Viserys was too emotional he too was to blame for the downfall of his family , his Grandfather king Jaherese had a strong granddaughter who was next in-line for the throne what did he do put it to a vote n let them chose
@@alessiodandolo1460 and look how it turned out for him. Burnt face shattered legs broken hip, constant pain, and his dragon wounded to the point it died of its wounds. First battle and he nearly dies. And then the next battle he was involved with was a year later against tiny dragons who had children for riders.
What an inspiration he was 🤦♂️
She brought it on herself. So much destruction and death... All from paranoia.
But is it paranoia if it is true. Rhaenyra would not have been able to enjoy a peaceful reign as long as a trueborn male alternative was in the picture. Adding to the fact, her own heirs was rumored bastards. Even if she didn't want to, she would have had no choice but to have Aegon, Aemond, and Daeron killed. Similar to Elizabeth I and Mary of Scotland. Rhaenyra probably also had Daemon preaching this in her ear as well.
@@thegreatpage5912 Honestly, if it meant keeping the peace, I think Rhaenyra most likely would have let them live, even if it was in exile. In the show it took the death of her Son to finally push her to war, even though she would have had every reason to before that. Its that restraint that makes me give her the benefit of the doubt.
No she wouldn't. Daemon killed for less. That's what team Black doesn't understand: with Rhaenyra on the throne her brothers are as good as dead.
Everyone who has studied a little history knows that it is not paranoia.
@@Ronkyort0dox Daemon isn't the queen, is he? His wants are immaterial compared to hers. He can hate it, he can complain about it, but he's no traitor to his own blood. Rhaenyra would have sent them off into exile AND THEN maybe Daemon kills them across the sea. Regardless at the end of the day, it was her own paranoia implanted and grown in her by both herself and her Father that caused all this.
Did she ever regret what she did to Rhaenyra in her final moments ??
In the book we don't really know, but given there different relationship in the book vs the show i don't think she did on a personal level. However in the show i do think they will swap out the bit about reading to Jaehaerys to reading with Rhaenyra
Book alicent was kinda similar to Cercei so no
I've been meaning to ask, what map of Westeros is that? It's very detailed, but I can't find it anywhere. Do you know where I can find it? Thanks, keep up the videos, they're really good.
I made it my self, I plan on making it public very soon when I’ve corrected some errors and fishnet essos
@@WorldOfWesteros You made THAT yourself?? damn
Can’t wait to see how the show will reflect this. May use the fact that her and Rhaenyra was so close to being friends again.
I tend to think Rhaenyra might be a bigger part of it given how different there relationship is in the show
She´s a lot closer to Cersei on the books so the characterisation on the show to make her more complex than a jealous queen was on point
Why did she come to hate the color green? And why didn't she speak of viserys in the hours leading up to her death? She loved her children, though. As any mother would
Let's be honest she never loved viserys
They change Jaehaerys to rhaenyra because she read to her as a child
Looks like the Winter fever is Rhaenyra's last revenge on the people who wronged her. Only targaryens are not afflicted by the sickness
Look. Stop dreaming and coping. The dead cannot send diseases. They're dead. The Targaryens were not afflicted, because their genes are affected by Valyria's sorcery. The winter fever was another of the countless diseases in this universe. Stop putting your Black simping obsession into everything, child.
Her confession is so sad. Why would any mother put her children through what she unwisely did. Because it is her duty?! Bahaha. Westerosi's are truly barbaric.
I blame otto for turning Alicent against her best friend
"The winter came for House Targaryen"
How to download the map?
She never loved Viserys
Kml I dnt blame her
@@elwinjohnson4004 why not?
@@nathanblu9495 because she was forced to marry him old ass fat ass sick ass man I understand but at the same time she should fault her father for it all
@@elwinjohnson4004 yeah I don’t think Viserys is to blame for Ottos wrong doings and even so that sick fat man was still a good husband her and loved her. It’s just a shame she never had any type of adoration for him
@@nathanblu9495 I mean I somewhat like viserys but I’m one of the few people that understands why alicent is not so good
Ironic that she died in a very similar way to Jaeherys.
She was only 45. Damn that’s sad
If I was King Viserys I would simply have Rhaenyra not marry and just be like Queen Elizabeth I so Alicents children can rule afterwards. Westeros is heavily patriarchal just like 16th century England so since Rhaenyra is a woman best to not marry so she can maintain her independence.
At least Alicent died when her last living bloodline, her granddaughter, was still alive and was married to the king 🤴.
But even then she would die, and her bloodline would end because it would continue from Viserys II
Book alicent told her to slit aegon iii's throat when they slept and that upset jaehaera she cried
No Jahaera was dead. That was like the last nail on Alicent’s coffin. Good for her she deserved her death because she push her inexperience, over indulge, and her paranoid feed children to a war. They all died horribly and she had to see or heard about it. Rhanerya was 9 when she became her step mother and instead of caring and building a relationship with her step daughter she begin to gather lord against her to crush her once Viserys died. Alicent was a grown women of 19 when she gave birth to Aegon II.
They did everything they told and warn Viserys Daemon was going to do to Rhanerya and to the realm.
Daemon hired B&C because the greens hide Viserys body for 10 days so they could crown Aegon II, because those news made Rhaenrya miscarriage their daughter, and because their own blood took Luke away from them. Daemon raised jace, Luke and joff since
They were babes. He was the only father those boys knew. And he never, did or tried to have Aegon III or Viserys II shadow or allow anyone to cast a shadow over jace’s inherits.
He crown Rhaenrya queen, he made lords bend to jace and rhae. He and jace gather the dragonseeds, he had t Riverland supporting Rhaenrya and even after Aemond burn them day after day to make them switch to the green they didn’t and stood loyal to Rhaenrya.
Alicent had her karma. She died hating and missing everyone she lost because of everything she did and didn’t do.
I feel sorry for Alicent in the show, she will regret the war and outliving all of her children, grandchildren and her best friend. But, she did have valid fears about Daemon.
About that, i'm very corious about how will they make Alicent's reaction on Rhaenyra's death
The hightowers greed is so sickening even after ever read.
I think her fate is the most tragic with Rhaenyra and Helaena's
Thanks to Reddit and videos like this one, I'm finding out how different Alicient is in the books versus in the show. And I'm not sure how i feel about that... It's understandable to make adjustments and changes to adapt a book stoey into a TV format. But until what extent? Alicient and Rhaenrya's relationship in the show is almost romantic. Certain flashbacks moments and the way they interact with each other is like a fine line between hate and repressed feelings. And for what I've been reading, I'm not the only one with those conclusions.
On the beginning, I was shipping them lol
Then we have the book's version, which is more of a mean stepmother - stepdaughter dynamic.
Wondering how the producers will navigate all this...
It is arguably one of the biggest changes the show made, but one that i 100% understand why they did it. Fire and Blood does give a lot of leeway when adapting so whenever something is hugely different in the show i just remind myself the show is the show the book is the book and they exist in two separate world in my head. But i do think the difference in the context of Rhaenyra and Alicents relationship in the show will change how they approach there characters towards the end of the show
She should had never evolve her children in the game of thrones the whole war is a death trap.
“A Hightower, alone in the world, is a terrible thing.”
"a hightower always pays his depts"
Question who truly won? The blacks continued their line sure but they lost ALL of their dragons, the queen was burned and eaten, the younger bastard son fell to his death or someone survived and lost his memories, daemon might be dead or said fuck the crown and left.
The greens all died in the worst ways possible and lost all their dragons including aegon the conqueror’s dragon which is fucking disrespectful. It seems well to me the greens technically won in succession but the blacks line continued. Who do you think won?
In reality, no one, given how terrible both sides suffered.
BUT; there are many who believe the greens won simply because they think the green’s goal was to keep the ruler on the throne male. It wasn’t. That was just their “evidence” of justifying their end. What many fail to remember was the green’s main goal was to have a Hightower ruler on the throne,(mainly Otto’s main goal from the get go since he’s the one who started it, a goal pushed so heavily due to greed from a second son wanting a supreme legacy, as many second sons try to attempt)
But they failed, otto’s and Alicent’s line was completely obliterated.
Whereas the blacks heirs went on to sit the throne. So, when looking at the objective of continuing lines because through the story it’s emphasized how heirs are the legacy, and as the Hightower line did not continue on the throne, the blacks win in that regard.
After watching the recent episode of House of the Dragon, I think it’s funny this is all because of a dying king muttering a character from his fable and dummy Alicent assumed he meant for that dingdong, Aegon, to be crowned. I can’t stand her in the show and it’s sad to know Rhaenerya’s fate unless HBO does something stupid and ruins the story last minute a la GoT.
The greens are in the wrong
For what? For not supporting a woman to sit on the throne over the male heir, which is perfectly lawful? Also a dishonest woman with three bastards who were supposed to usurp both Targaryens and Velaryons, despite not having the latters' blood? The point of the Dance is that BOTH SIDES were in the wrong.
Love her ending. Power hungry alicent started the war and got the worse destiny.
Bring milk of the poppy…
I wonder if House of the Dragon will end on a marginally more optimistic note for Alicent - maybe with her reconciling to some extent with Aegon III as a proxy for Rhaenarya or alternately Jaehaera not being murdered and remaining Aegon's queen, again serving as a proxy reconciliation for the two branches of the Targareyns.
I don’t hate this idea, but it really will depend how deep into the regency they intend to go
Jaehaera living would kinda screw up the whole succession thing. Since it’s kind of an emphasis that NONE of Alicent’s descendants live or inherit the throne. Which I think is something George wanted to emphasise to show the futility of the war.
Aegon and Alicent is certainly interesting. I guess its determined how they characterise Aegon. In the book Aegon was so traumatised from the Dance and literally watching his mother being killed right in front of him. He never once visited Alicent or had any interaction with her. Alicent even asked Jaehaera to kill Aegon which frightened the poor girl. But the show runners might have a different take so we’ll just have to see.
Why does Alicent deserve a happier ending than everyone else? Fuck that
She doesn’t deserve a happier ending; she deserves the worst ending! She could have prevented all the bloodshed!
I love alicent hightower aka olivia cooke is so beautiful girl 👧 ever her sansa stark aka sophie turner and margeray tyrell aka Natalie dormer are so beautiful game of thrones girls ever love 😍 them kiss 😘 go go stark go go tyrell and go go hightower best houses of westros kiss 😘
The pandemic of westeros.
High towers are to blame
There is a theory I have only heard this year that Alicent was secretly the daughter of the Old King's daughters (Saera if I'm remembering correctly) who the Hightowers hid from the King until she gave them a child. Then they sent her off with gold to Essos. We know her father was Otto, but I honestly don't know of we know who her mother actually was. This theory would afd layers to the Dance of yhe Dragons because it would be make it (besides the obvious family infighting) a continuation of the fight between Princesses through their daughter and the other's granddaughter
Better than getting your feet spooged on.
I still can't believe they did that
💚🦶🏻😍😛
good she was a fool 👍bless the 🐉s 💫💫
Honestly, I know I'm gonna get hate for this but... I truly feel sorry for Alicent Hightower. There, I said it, I'm "guilty".
Both sides were fighting for their own claimants and survival. Both sides had good and bad, innocent and otherwise.
But Alicent in particular? She truly lost all her close loved ones. All the Targaryen Greens, tragically gone. And she outlived all of them.
Well I'm sympathetic toward alicent from the show but also blame her & I think she deserves it
the thing is yes the blacks might not be perfect for the throne but that fact won't make them equal to the greens in such terms like.. deserving the throne cuz the greens brought war & if not for them I believe rhaenyra would make a good queen actually & other lords wouldn't stand against her no matter how much they don't like her on the throne, so that argument about them sides being equally Grey or terrible is not completely wrong but it's unfair cuz the greens started the war that pushed the blacks to have no choice but commit crimes to win
@@laza0202 I don't think rhaenyra would have been a good queen, there is a reason why the population of kings landing rose to revolt agaisn her. And as long as aegon and aemond lives their lives would always be pawns to other men even if otto wasnt there.
No one will hate you for feeling sorry for Alicent
@@rohanshende4338
85% of the fanbase are Team Black. You'd be surprised how much they'll zealously defend Rhaenyra's actions and curse out Team Green fans.
Wassup with the brown hair???? Shouldnt she have a silver/golden hair color????
i actually made a video about that very issue. It wasn't something i picked up on until i re read the books for the first time since reading fire and blood. ua-cam.com/video/moff1ECuQ3Q/v-deo.html
I really hope they change this in the show. Death by the plague? LAME!
No. I'm sick of fanservice for you crybabies. It's not supposed to be a heroes vs villains stories. Martin treated these characters as if they were historical figures, not overdramatic heroes and villains with cartoonish deaths. I want the characters to have normal mundane deaths too.
This is TV. It has every right to be overdramatic and cartoonish. If I wanted the mundane, I would read a book. @@gooby214
@@givenchyhomme8694 And of course we know you're far too illiterate and lazy for that. That's why you can only consume a discount, secondary version of the original product. No. Screw changes. D&D gave us enough of horrible changes. Respect the author's work and his story.
In show-verse, it is Alicent who made the mistake of showing mercy for which she will have to pay with everything. "Reluctance to murder is not a weakness" sums up the very dilemma at the heart of asoiaf. Instead of sending Rhaenyra generous peace terms, if they followed Otto's plan and immediately sent assassins to poison or slit Rhaenyra's throat, maybe we would've been spared a civil war because even less houses would've rallied around Daemon. The tragedy of mercy is for Show Alicent, not Rhaenyra. Because when the shoe will be on the other foot they will not allow Alicent the same courtesy.
Especially not after Alicent’s son who she raised to hate Rhaenyra’s children killed one of Rhaneyra’s sons. You reap what you sow, Alicent gets what she deserves.
Nope. Killing Luke was the endgame of Alicents 20 year campaign against Rhaenyra for not “doing her duty” to Alicents standard. Everything that happened after was because of Alicent, whether or not Luke’s death was an accident or not, the greens set the rules of the dance as being anything goes, anyone is fair game and the greens weren’t savy enough to realize what they were doing was leading to once they killed an envoy who happens to be Rhaenyras son
@@mackmitchell94 the sons were old enough to see what their father truly feels about them at driftmark.
Aq
Her fate was sad..I was rooting for her.
A lot of ppl keep blaming Alicent, when the architect of house Targaryen’s downfall was Viserys you love your daughter but you let your love cloud your judgement do the right thing name your first born son or at very least follow in the steps of ur grandfather who also went through something similar whit Raynes call the great council and let them vote him they are ready for a queen or do they want to continue tradition, Viserys had only had to refer back to the histories to solve is issue but again as they say Love is the Death of duty
Oh boo hoo she has a lot of responsibility for the war as well.
What happens to her is so sad. I'm gonna call it "burying the tradwife" 🙃. Justice for tradwives 🙃
But at the end f Alicent
@Faisal Kamal lol naww.
I think HoTD ends as the Song should end, except that everyone dies to the white walkers
So Alicent could have done nothing, let Rhaenyra be crowned and looked over her shoulders the rest of her life wondering when she and her children would be killed; probably by Daemon. Or she could have done what she did. You'll never convince me that she and her children would have been Ok and some wonderful family and Westerosi peace would have ensued if she had just "followed Viserys' wishes." Nope. They were marked for death no matter what she did. Rock meet Hard place, Scylla meet Charybdis. My empathies are with Alicent.
Alicent had antagonized Rheanyra for atleast 20 years and she never lifted a finger at her or her kids. Otto underestimated Rheanyra by advising to Viserys she would be named heir over Deamon because he tought it would be easier to name Alicent's first born son heir over Rheanyra.
@@yusufraage8554 i said the same thing. Everyone assumes rhaenyra would have harmed her brother when really she just didn’t care for them. Their relationship was strained because of Alicent and the king, they turned them boys against rhaenyra fresh out the womb. Rhaenyra loved the idea of family, she wasn’t thirsty for the throne till her father entrusted her with it. She didn’t reach for it when her mother had her brother, it was pushed on her. They backed rhaenyra into a corner and she came out swinging. She didn’t turn evil till they made her do so
The fear of her kids getting killed was a faulse justification why can't you people see that Otto simply manipulated her , yes if she didn't do anything her kids would be fine daemon never suggested , hinted or implied he would hurt the kids so long as they were no threat to rheneryas he's not some impulse mass murderer he won't kill for no reason so long as aegon didn't press his claim he'd live .
@@thatoneblackdude3333
Anyone who believes Daemon can control himself or be trusted is a fool.
@@bethfinne3260 um he can control himself if he couldn't he would have killed Otto years ago the only times were daemon violence irrationally is when it's emotional charged under normal circumstances he won't do anything if daemon saw the green kids as a threat to rhenerya or had any desire to kill them they would have already been dead Otto manipulated Alicent his statement was made in bad faith to force her to put aegon on the throne she is just her father's puppet she always was and it's her willigness to allow herself to be a puppet that destroys her family.
Never forgive her
Alicent made her bed
I heard that Alicent did some risque' magazine shoots for Playfoot, Footy Freaks and Feet-Feet-Feet. Any truth to these allegations?