The Grim Fate Of Jaehaera | House Of The Dragon History & Lore |Dance Of The Dragons (Aegon iii)
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- The Grim Fate Of Jaehaera Targaryen, the little queen, the last living child of King Aegon ii, as just a big of a scandal as it was a mystery the both the small folk and those living in the wall of the red keep would talk about to this very day. Who and why would anyone want to murder the little queen, the list of suspects was long and there reasons endless, that is if it was even murder at all, she very may well have taken her own life.
00:00:00 Rhaena's Miscarriage
00:00:22 Famine In The North
00:01:05 Trouble In The Dornish Marches
00:01:26 The Lannisters fail to beat the ironborn
00:02:05 The Death Of Jaehaera Targaryen
00:03:16 A suspect death
00:03:59 The Troubled Life Of The Little Queen
00:04:16 Why did she take her own life?
00:04:55 Was it Murder?
00:06:44 The Prime Suspect, Unwin Peake
The Dance Of The Dragons will be the focus of the plot of the new HBO spin-off House Of The Dragon coming in 2022. So if you want to learn the story before we see HBO's take on it then this will be a very long-running series. Game Of Thrones / House of the dragon are HBO shows based on George R R Martin's A Song Of Ice And Fire series. The information in this video comes from the books a world of ice and fire as well as fire and blood.
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Queen Rhaenyra Targaryen was trapped on Dragonstone by her brother King Aegon ii with no way to escape her fate. What was to come was the final showdown between the two main players of the dance of the dragons and bring the war into its final phase. The House of the dragon was crumbling and the events that was about to follow would only cause more damage to both sides of the war.
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No way did a ten year old who was scared of everything suddenly find the courage to jump from her window. Murdered for sure.
I personally doubt she did it herself. She is frightened and isolated, yes, but that's because she has developed major anxiety and trauma after all she's seen and heard. As said in the text, "she seemed content to stay in her chambers with her maids and playing with her dolls". This makes me think that while clearly she isn't well, she isn't prone to throw herself from a window, either. This is contrasted against Aegon III. If anyone *were* to throw themselves from a window, I think Aegon III would be more likely to do that, as he is traumatized and has depression (there is literally nothing he enjoys doing, as opposed to Jaehaera's contentment to play).
GRRM really said “this was a grey war where both sides suck” but then made the green side lose everything lol
As he should that cursed sick venomous line should be erased
@rin ray Exactly.
The line of traitors extinct at last.
@@drrohanjacob xD ok soyjak
@@rinray9685 xddd
Soyjako momento lmao
@@michakoniecpolski5677 "xD" "soyjak" are you 12?
It's sad. Helaena and her kids were innocent and they were tragic victims to the dance :(
I'd riot too 😭
If Jaehaera had killed herself she had plenty of reason to. Her brother was beheaded before her eyes, she was kept under lock and key by her aunt, her mother killed herself out of grief, her father was poisoned, she was forcibly married to a cousin she barely knew, and she was forced to be queen at the age of 8.
If it had been someone else like Unwin Peake then it is very possible. Removing her from the picture before she could come of age to give birth would be beneficial for anyone ambitious enough to put their own daughters in the king's bed. Also, there were many blacks and people in general who were denied revenge against her father.
Honestly, I could see either side.
That what makes it so cool ether way makes sense and works well
Both Jaehaera and Aegon (III) were scarred by the war and the deaths of their kin.
I hate with all my heart House Peake, they were so ambitious, always rebelling against the crown, siding with the Blackfyres (I’m loyal to House Targaryen and not to the Red pretenders) they even tried to claim the Kingdom of the Reach during the reign of an old Gardener King who had only daughters (and last but not least they had a huge part in exiling House Manderly from the Reach). As a fan and supporter of Team Green i hate Unwin Peake, he killed the last legal member of the Green branch (it is sure that there are still descendants of Aegon II as he had many bastards and the progeny of Aemond and Alys Rivers so somehow the line survived), killing the poor girl and dying in that way…. Truly hate that man and in the end his daughter didn’t marry Aegon III, fortunately. One of the worst and most hateful character in my opinion
I actually wish Jahaera and Aegon III were able to have children 😢 I know the would have probably been the most depressing couple but she didn't deserve what happened to her.
The greens are at last extinct and so ends the line of traitors.
@@drrohanjacob Traitors? Who did they commit treason against? Themselves?
@@tuplat5107 Traitors to house targaryens and the realm
@@drrohanjacob House are only families, not legal entities and thus one cannot commit treason against a house.
And they commited no treason against the realm as they were only protecting the legal state order of the kingdom
@@tuplat5107 The king decides the law.
He chose his daughter as for tradition it means nothing to a dragon.
Honestly, it's a shame Jaehaera died too, the last of the Greens. This "Dance" just gets more depressing as time goes on, to the point where 2 or 3 Targaryen children are just straight up murdered/assassinated.
Like, that's nuts. Really wished she had lived and that her and Aegon III were able to actually marry and continue their Line for the sake of both Factions. After Jaehaera died, poor Alicent really did lose all her family members/Targaryen descendants.
Excellent the greens deserve nothing but extinction
“Poor alicent”?! If she had not gone along with the plan to steal the iron throne from Rhaenyra, none of it would have happened. No sympathy for her.
I mean Aegon and Aemond had bastards....
@@anitat9727 But not in the royal line.
Its ironic that the greens if they live on they do so illegitimate and in obscurity.
It's even better than total extinction.
Book Alicent is just horrible person no symphaty for her
Hope you had a great Christmas! Poor Jaehaera 😢again another fatal reminder that the real victims of the dance of dragons were the innocents.
Nobody wins when the family fights
I think Unwin Peake was somehow involved in her death.
The poor girl died the same way her mother did
I read a brilliant theory that Helaena foresaw the death of her daughter in a prophetic dream, and tried to avert fate by killing herself in the same manner, hoping that would be enough to fulfill the prophecy and spare Jaehaera.
I get the UA-cam notification and stop what I'm doing to immediately watch. As always your videos are impeccable. Definitely the best in channel on D.o.D ; A.S.o.I.F ; G.R.R.M's work.
Poor little girl. Definitely think she was murdered.
Velaryons likely murdered her using faceless men as the quote says in chapter before :
"The mission to Braavos proved eventful in other ways as well. Lord Follard became enamored of a Braavosi courtesan and elected to remain close to her rather than return to Westeros, Ser Herman Rollingford was killed in a duel by a bravo who took offense at the color of his doublet, and Ser Denys Harte supposedly engaged the services of the mysterious Faceless Men to kill a rival back in King’s Landing, Mushroom asserts."
Her lord husband, Ser Corwyn Corbray, brought the girl forward. A gasp went through the hall. “Lady Daenaera of House Velaryon,” boomed out the herald, somewhat hoarsely, “daughter of the late and lamented Daeron of that house and his lady wife, Hazel of House Harte, also departed, a ward of Lady Baela of House Targaryen and Alyn the Oakenfist of House Velaryon, Lord Admiral, Master of Driftmark, and Lord of the Tides.”
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It's Cassandra Baratheon. Her later actions in the future confirmed so. Unwin Peake hadn't that much courage. But he used that opportunity to make his daughter a Queen and utterly failed and loss his title as hand.
Maybe if there is any information do a video of Meagor son of Aerion the Targyaren who drank wildfire. After the great council where Maegor was passed over for kingship he seems to disappear. No mention of death, exile, grows up, marriage or anything, its like he was suddenly forgotten about.
Definitely somthing I can look into
Jaehaera's death imo is one of the worst decisions GRRM's made. The coming together of Green and Black is such a perfect end to the dance. Not to mention that if Jaehaera is the mother of Aegon III's kids then the Green line actually continues in the Blackfyres, making the Blackfyre rebellions a continuation of the Dance, which is just so cool. I really hope don't kill Jaehaera in HotD.
The reason he murdered her is because he wanted a murder mystery in the books and that was suggested by his friend. It was on one of his blogs. I agree it was one of the worst decisions ever.
That death is very sus.
The poor green ladies
Her death marked the final defeat of the Green Faction I mean if only she lived and had a child with Aegon III that would've concluded the conflict of the Blacks and the Greens into a draw since the child who would be sitting in the Iron Throne later would be that who has the blood of Rhaenyra and Aegon II.
It was pretty intentional on grrm's part to extinguish the greens line. It tells us what all their betrayal and hunger for power led to. Kinda poetic in a tragic way.
@@rodrigomenezesprado9738
I don't think that's the case.
If anything, Viserys betrayed the Realm by spitting in the face of the Council that made him the King in the first place. It wasn't a betrayal on the Green's part. And not to mention, it's not like Daemon and Rhaenyra's Line is free from all faults either, considering they lead to people like Aegon the Unworthy and Aerys the Mad King. Hell, it even branches out to the Blackfyre Rebellion, and House Blackfyre is often stated to be the greatest threat that House Targaryen ever faced, despite the Black's and Green's being the ones that incited a Civil War that lead the Dragons to their Extinction.
But hey, even if you're right, then that means this logic can go for Rhaenyra's side as well;
The possibility that Rhaenyra's first 3, Strong sons dying could've intentional too, in order to ensure the main Line of both House Targaryen and Velaryon wasn't supplanted by "the Pups of House Strong", as Vaemond put it.
I suppose it all depends on how one views the situation
Even then, Rhaena marries a Hightower man from what I remember, and she had like, 6 daughters till she died, so how does that factor into your theory here?
@@thalmoragent9344 The blacks won.
Do not forget it was otto who pushed Viserys to name his daughter over his male heir daemon.
It was his scheming that got his line extinct.
He diserved it.
@@thalmoragent9344 I can't help but feel like you're bringing some other baggage to this discussion.
Rhaena's children were never heard of or laid out in any way, therefore they were never considered for the Iron throne, as far as we know. Even if they were, you can't really say they belonged to the green's side since they were born after the Dance.
Rhaenyra and Daemon barely raised their own children-how can they be at fault for the bad deeds of their descendents? By that logic, they could also be held responsible for the good kings that came before them, but that makes no sense at all. We're explicitly discussing the matters of the Dance and it's fallout, pay attention.
The fact is: the Dance of the Dragons was orchestrated by the green side, mainly Otto. And the conflict ended with the extinction of his own heirs and bloodline. GRRM could've kept Jaehaera alive, but instead killed her and introduced Daenaera to be the Queen. I think that is very telling, symbolizing how the greens ultimately failed.
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No, Otto wasn't the only one against Daemon, and nearly all the others on the Small Council agreed. Daemon wouldn't have been a good king and he was a dangerous man.
Rhaenyra was chosen as a temporary option, no more.
And why do you guys make it seem like Otto was doing anything other than what just about any other lord in the Realm would've?
He served the king as well as himself, like 90% of any High Lords would. Corlys is so hungry for the Throne he was willing to expire his own main Velaryon line just for the sake of some connection with the Throne, and yet hardly a single fan ever calls Corlys out for it
Corlys offered his daughter to the King just as Otto did, he fought for a marriage between his house and house Targaryen just as Otto did, if not MORE... so why is Otto getting singled out here??
Hope you can do a video on the life of Aegon & Daenaera. I find their story so interesting
I love grrm for leaving this open ended but it seems very obvious that this one falls to onwin peake, that he hoped to find his daughter on the throne instead seems to be motive
Agreed. It is highly likely that he was involved.
@@tanoshiofm3852 its actually funny to me how badly that blows up in his face though
why are spikes in the red keep where a person can easily just jump on lol
Defence as Maegors hold fast is like a castle within a castle but now I think about it the spike have more team kills than in defence
That’s brutal
I hope they don't show this in the series. So much death, I hope they don't show every single death in detail. Bad enough they showed the childbirth scenes so much, I don't want to see the kids die.
i suspect the show won't get as far as Unwin Peake and Jaehaera's fate, i'm guessing they might end at the wedding of Aegon and Jaehaera
There is a huge chance that Jaehara might survive in the tv continuity of events. The show may not even make it this far into the story, so they could decide to keep the ending simple by compositing her role with Daenara Velaryons.
i wish they rather not. the green line completely dying out with jaehara's death is the final blow to whatever sanity left in alicent in the end.
GRRM killed Jaehaera off for a reason, it would be kind of stupid for them to rewrite an entire bloodline. The extinction of the Greens is significant because it removes the Hightower’s major political influence on the throne.
But I guess they could get away with it? After all it’s Viserys II who continues the bloodline not Aegon III or any of his kids.
@@Allthingsasian For simplicity reasons, similar to why the Great Council was Viserys vs Rhaenys instead of Viserys vs Laenor. The show probably won't make it this far into the story and will need a quick convenient way to wrap it up.
Situations like this you have to think as a tv producer instead of as a book writer, characters are combined all the time and you don't have enough time to introduce this elaborate plot this late into the show as it is closing. Most of the show audience never read the books, so the change wouldn't really matter.
It would be nice if the show did that. I mean killing her off in the end of the show would be overkill. (It’s already overkill in the books)
@@thegreatpage5912 If u look at the leaks with blood and cheese being an accident, they may kill her off before the end of the dance.
Cassandra and peake schemes killed jaehaera
damn never any peace or happiness in westeros ,.Brutality ,grim dark sigh I will forever write fan ficrtions that reverse that .Fantasy bah , its horror. The people are the monsters.
I don't understand why George RR martin had Jaehaera killed in the first place, (its very overkill) then replace her with some unknown Valyron women we never heard of. I think it would've been somewhat nice of the greens and the blacks finally reunite in peace after the gruesome war.
As he should that cursed sick venomous line should be erased it's also karama for aegon the userper wanting to kill rhaenrya's line
@@rinray9685 Dude get some help, you are literally condemning a little girl to death because of who she’s related to. It’s like condemning the entire British royal family for being related to Vlad the Impaler.
If Rhaernya was the rightful heir then why is she still called usurper by GOT timeline. Her descendants had plenty of time to legitimise her as the rightful queen, but didn’t, curious isn’t it 🧐.
@@notyetawomen5257 as it's stated both of them were called userpers it's just a matter of perspective
@@notyetawomen5257 I don't give a fuck in the end that traitor' corrupted polluted line ended as it should.
@@rinray9685 Yet Aegon the younger was stated as Aegon II heir not Rhaernya’s. ☺️
I think Jahaera killed herself, when she was born she never laughed or cried like a normal baby did. She was probably manic depressive. But for the show they may do something different.
They may not even go this far after the dance to be honest
Maybe just after the hour of the wolf
@@yowcephelengikal4165 true
Nah, I believe Unwin Peak had her killed just so he could have the king marry his daughter to keep his family in power when Aegon took the rule of the realm.
I feel sad on death of jahaera , but as team black its better that alicents blood line ended here
So passes the last of the high Targaryen line.. Seem like such a down time every time we think the realm tries to heal from the dance a new death or other bad event happens..
True, the Dance lasted a lot longer than just the actual battles
A nasty situation indeed
Finally the last of the traitors are finished.
@@drrohanjacob Dude what the hell is wrong with you, you’re celebrating a child’s death you sick fuck.
@@notyetawomen5257 She was green scum.
The last of the line of traitors.
Also they are fictional characters.
@@drrohanjacob Still doesn’t give you the right to condemn a child like that, fictional or not, it’s gross 🤮.
I hope the show won't give us an answer on either Helaena or Jaehaera's deaths and leave it to the audience to speculate. I think some things are just good to leave to speculation and it makes the characters more interesting when you don't fully know their motives. I would have preferred Daemon's first wife die off-screen or just see her fall but not show how so that you'd just have to be on your toes around Daemon.
I dunno, Daemon's shown to be one to kill anyone he sees as inconvenience or doesn't like. His first wife, Vaemond, that random guy at Driftmark who was just taking a stroll in the castle, etc...
As for Helaena, I'm fairly sure we know the situation with her, but hey, could be wrong
I agree somtimes not knowing is the best part of a mystery
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I think the show will do something different with Jaehaera’s death and they will have her die a big sooner while Alicent is still alive or they might make Alicent live slightly longer for her to hear the news that her last living descendant is dead. I think that will serve as one symbolic poetic justice of what scheming can cause devastation to your family. I think that the final death in her family will truly break Alicent and make her realize that her and her fathers plan did not come to fruition and it cost the lives of her loved ones. Because after the war, she was locked up and spending the rest of her days in Maegor’s Holdfast because her allies had turned on her and her son Aegon. She was in captivity because Tyland Lannister, a Green, wanted protection for the new regime of Aegon III, a Black. She died completely powerless than she ever was and she would have to bear the thought that even though her son wouldn’t have been the king of westeros, at least he and the rest of her children and grandchildren maybe would have been alive had they let Rhaenyra just ascend the throne without conflict. The show should defintley let Alicent still be alive during Jaehaera’s death becuase that would be a lot more poetic and hard hitting to watch that final domino of your family die in front of your eyes. And think about it the war completely decimated the entire Green faction within 4 years 129AC-133AC. So the Greens, in my opinion, definitely did not win because their goal itself was not to make sure that everyone goes by male precedent, that was just their main weapon of legitimization of their claimant Aegon to take the throne. The real ambitions of Otto and Alicent were for the Hightowers to become more powerful through the Targaryen-Hightower line to rule the Iron throne forever. The Dance of Dragons was all about the battle of the bloodline. And they completely lost that goal because thanks to their plotting their line was decimated within a pathetic 4 year timespan and Rhaenyra’s bloodline triumphed but at a great cost because the dragons went extinct but the blacks at least prevailed over the Greens and their personal pursuit of the dominating bloodline.
And that's how the green's bloodline ended.
The amount of people in reddit whining about how Martin shouldn't have killed her, and that it would have been "poetic" for Daemon Blackfyre to have been the last legacy of the Greens living as a bastard branch is honestly mind boggling.
Like, it's ASOIAF. What did you expect? Martin set the tone for the series (for me at least) the moment one of the main characters (Ned) was killed in the first book.
Sure, it's a "poetic" sentiment if Jaehaera had lived, and George has done some "poetic" shit in the series overtime. But most of the time, bad things happen to just about anyone. Why? Because...because bad things happen to literally anyone in real life, regardless of station? People forget that in spite of the fantasy elements Martin has put into his works, it's still set in reality.
Like, you got Arthur Dayne, right? Dude's this perfect knight; honorable, just, strong, handsome, the best swordsman to ever live, and all around a good person according to everyone that knew him. This would be a perfect character for a protagonist to meet in the future and learn from, right? So what does Martin do? He kills him before the story even starts.
This is a world where the greatest of men, wielding the greatest of weapons, often meet their end in the most unsatisfactory ways. It's just something you learn to accept while reading about this world.
And if you don't want to accept it? That's fine. There's always fanfiction, I guess. So go nuts.
Aegon III and Jaehaera marring is realistic.
The war of the roses literally ended with Hanery Tudor the last member of house Lancaster married to Elizabeth of York the last child of Edward IV.
Having the Green bloodline live on only be have Daena usurped for being a women just like Rhaenyra was and for them to live on through the Blackfyres a house of bastards is a much better ending than having a traumatised autistic 6 year old girl violently murdered and then having some random deus ex machina Velaryon girl we have never heard of or seen before show up and fix everything.
Usurper king Aegon the 2
You mean Rhaernya
The usurper, the tyrant, the mad, the unworthy will always be the one who loses the war.
@@pedrofernandes2466 Nah, maegor with tits wasnt that bad