Miracles vs Lands | Grand Finals - Quest for the Best Legacy Deck Ever

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  • @CardmarketMagic
    @CardmarketMagic  Місяць тому +43

    Decklists and Tournament breakdown: bit.ly/4e33TxM
    Today's Decklists: bit.ly/4d8KgDp

    • @matteorossi1172
      @matteorossi1172 Місяць тому

      You should make a turnament where each of you plays their personal favourite deck ever

    • @itzmango3070
      @itzmango3070 Місяць тому

      51:41 he did not have priority when casting his creature with flash witch means Carl could have played his spell first

    • @TehKorwinMikke
      @TehKorwinMikke Місяць тому

      > We have Wandering Ones
      Is that a tease that we will see Original Kamigawa Block Pauper Tiny Leaders?

    • @mvphiggie931
      @mvphiggie931 16 днів тому +2

      17:55 I think y’all missed a MASSIVE interaction Punishing Fire does not hit planes walkers(only players and creatures) so Jace shouldn’t have been damaged

  • @davidchapman7350
    @davidchapman7350 Місяць тому +1116

    11:57 Interviews: Toffel: "I don't think Carl knows I need white to win" - Carl: "Toffel needs white to win" 🤣

  • @araen11
    @araen11 Місяць тому +1369

    I'm really amazed at how Carl played him. I usually considered him to be the weakest of the players on the cardmarket team. Well, I must change my mind. He played lands through this tournament EXCELLENTLY, with many unintuitive plays. Kudos to you

    • @ublabaah3908
      @ublabaah3908 Місяць тому +166

      And some of those plays were on board things that Thoralf even missed. Lands is a weird decl and Legacy is a hard format. Kudos to all players mastering their decks and finding outplays where needed.

    • @MrPlow-jc4cr
      @MrPlow-jc4cr Місяць тому +161

      He also played 12Post masterfully in their Modern series. He's got his archtype down

    • @evans7665
      @evans7665 Місяць тому +75

      you can tell he plays lands because all the cards are altered

    • @jesussuperstar3406
      @jesussuperstar3406 Місяць тому +12

      Carl misses killing top w blast zone on entreat

    • @Ondas563
      @Ondas563 Місяць тому +33

      Blast zone enters with a counter, you can't kill tokens with it

  • @michel0dy
    @michel0dy Місяць тому +175

    "I came with a dream but I'm leaving with a miracle"
    Thoralf did NOT need to drop such a line but I'm so glad he did. Absolute fire.

  • @kal2489
    @kal2489 Місяць тому +607

    Love the difference between Thoralf's "cards we pulled out of the folders" Miracles list, and Carl's "clearly just brought it from home", black bordered duals, altered moxes, heavily foiled personal lands deck.

    • @iclimbeverything2990
      @iclimbeverything2990 Місяць тому +45

      It's a deck borrowed from one of the big wigs at karma Crow or something like that. Deepest lore, if you watch back like a year ago they have lands videos with this same exact deck I recognize the mox diamonds

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Місяць тому +164

      We no longer work with Karma Crow since Thoralf sold his shares in the company

    • @druid_zephyrus
      @druid_zephyrus Місяць тому +41

      ​@CardmarketMagic
      Wow that's really open about things. Very transparent.

    • @gus3000spam
      @gus3000spam Місяць тому +10

      Yeah, really appreciate the transparency, it's refreshing !

    • @Schnaqer
      @Schnaqer Місяць тому +5

      So is it Carls blinged out deck?

  • @hoangnguyennang5838
    @hoangnguyennang5838 Місяць тому +510

    one of the greatest series I've ever watched on UA-cam
    the build up, the plays, the humor, the drama, the parallel (Carl vs Thoralf for both the first and last match of the tourney), some insane peak I've witnessed here
    Can't wait for the next one

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Місяць тому +58

      Thank you! We put a lot of time, effort and love into this one :) I'm really happy you enjoyed it

    • @malcom91
      @malcom91 Місяць тому +5

      ​@@CardmarketMagic Aaaaaaand the editing. Absolute top tier editing in all of your videos. Thanks for all the entertainment you give to the community

    • @TheQuicksilver115
      @TheQuicksilver115 Місяць тому

      Agree 1000%!

  • @rytyrocks518
    @rytyrocks518 Місяць тому +281

    This might be the best comeback on the entire Cardmarket channel

    • @victorsaliba6081
      @victorsaliba6081 Місяць тому +19

      I agree with you. The Scam vs. 12 Post match also has a great comeback, but this one was absolutely insane

    • @TCG9777
      @TCG9777 Місяць тому +2

      Hands down this one. Thoralf had every goddamn right to be so smug

  • @therobbyfitz
    @therobbyfitz Місяць тому +236

    This sums up Magic so well. Some games are just bogus and nobody had fun.
    But some games…some games, man.

    • @markuskoivisto
      @markuskoivisto Місяць тому +13

      That’s why we don’t play best of 1 :)

    • @xolotltolox7626
      @xolotltolox7626 Місяць тому +3

      ​@@markuskoivisto *cough*Arena *cough*

  • @beanofknowledge2125
    @beanofknowledge2125 Місяць тому +767

    I see Carl really got into the Spirit of his Deck

    • @Ezullof
      @Ezullof Місяць тому +14

      He is the lands now

    • @ColossaldreadmawOP
      @ColossaldreadmawOP Місяць тому +22

      @@Ezullof toffel also got the spirit of his deck... he just keeps getting miracles

    • @thelegend-sb6jt
      @thelegend-sb6jt Місяць тому +2

      Always is 😂

    • @beanofknowledge2125
      @beanofknowledge2125 Місяць тому +5

      @@ColossaldreadmawOP That Swords to Plowshares in Game 3

    • @ColossaldreadmawOP
      @ColossaldreadmawOP Місяць тому +5

      @@beanofknowledge2125 + Carl not drawing the loam which would’ve meant another marit large

  • @jacktorborg9862
    @jacktorborg9862 Місяць тому +292

    This is the best 5 matches of magic I have seen in my 10+ years of playing the game, DAMN! What an incredible series. If I could like this video 1000 times I would. You guys have to keep it up with these "best ever" series! Also editing as always on point.

    • @batlhama6096
      @batlhama6096 Місяць тому +1

      But best deck in what format?
      Edit: forget it, pioneer dont got its chance yet

    • @victorhbrasil
      @victorhbrasil Місяць тому

      Togores storming when a real storm is happening is amazing also... but hell yeah, what a show this was

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Місяць тому +23

      I'm really really happy you enjoyed the series :D I put a lot of love into editing this one and I'm thrilled with how it played out. Is there a format you'd particularly like to see for the next one?

    • @10freekie2
      @10freekie2 Місяць тому +1

      Best kitchen table magic deck!

    • @ZoeEvelynHart
      @ZoeEvelynHart Місяць тому +1

      ​@@CardmarketMagicThe amount of effort you put in shows. I haven't played mtg in over a decade and have no interest in ever getting back into it, but I watch every one of your videos. Keep up the great work. 😊

  • @capsaicinJT
    @capsaicinJT Місяць тому +93

    in the early days of magic, the very first decklist that circulated online, known simply as "the deck", was blue white control, that closed out games with serra angel, a 4/4 flying angel.
    thoralf just closed out the legacy series playing blue white control and swinging in with a bunch of 4/4 angels.
    as an ancient magic boomer, i am pleased.

    • @SilverAlex92
      @SilverAlex92 Місяць тому +9

      The prophesy is fullfilled. We can now rest happily knowing that The Deck is still the best deck ever. Even if the list are vastly different, in spirt its still the same deck, with the same gameplan and the same finishers ;')

    • @587583922
      @587583922 Місяць тому

      Yeah...
      To be fair, one of the angels was a 7/7, but your point is well taken.

  • @TCG9777
    @TCG9777 Місяць тому +208

    The weight of that final turn made me hold my breath longer than I should have. I could literally feel the heartbeat, lolol. This was such an amazing series and I cannot wait for the "finale"?
    Much, much love from South Korea!

    • @SRMi
      @SRMi Місяць тому +1

      If only the Rishadan Port hadn't mysteriously vanished off the board to tap down white.

  • @Gnilson5
    @Gnilson5 Місяць тому +144

    The entire COMEBACK from a topped swords to plowshares in the last second 🎉 This is why i love magic. One of your best videoes yet. Keep up the great work!

  • @violaknapp7904
    @violaknapp7904 Місяць тому +127

    This was such an amazing rollercoaster ride! So many times I thought for sure one deck would clearly win only for the game to completely turn around again! It was really cool to see Thoralf and Carl put everything they had into their plays, and it really shows how much love and care and enthusiasm they put into this serie. Bravo, gentlemen, bravo!

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Місяць тому +6

      I'm really happy you enjoyed it :D is there a specific format you'd like to see for the next one?

    • @idanbhk3875
      @idanbhk3875 Місяць тому

      @@CardmarketMagic Since I don't suppose you can bring Vintage... If you're looking for more formats for the Best Deck Ever, there are retired formats like extended, block constructed, kaleidoscope and stuff. Also Pre-Modern.
      Maybe also Canadian Highlander, brawl, cEDH, etcetera?
      They'll probably all lose to legacy and modern decks, though.
      Also, are you ever planning on making a Planechase or Archenemy video?

    • @jewishbanana
      @jewishbanana Місяць тому

      Suuuurely we get Penny Dreadful, showcase tons of cards no one has ever seen

    • @violaknapp7904
      @violaknapp7904 Місяць тому

      @@CardmarketMagic You've already done pretty much all the formats I'm familiar with and I don't think cEDH would be feasable, so I guess some more niche or discontinued formats?
      Apart from that I'd love to see a video or two on Cube (or draft in general) since you mentioned that you play it around the offfice a lot, and I sadly don't know anyone who has one. I love the idea of Cube but have no clue on how to get started building one so I'd love to see some examples!

  • @MathisGries-ml5qv
    @MathisGries-ml5qv Місяць тому +452

    Seeing this thumbnail, Toffel will definitely need a Miracle to beat CarLands, the magnificent fusion of pilot and deck.
    UW Control and Lands are my two favorite archetypes so I could not have gotten a more exciting matchup for the finals. Can't wait to see who gets to wear the crown!

    • @friedaiceborn1663
      @friedaiceborn1663 Місяць тому

      And He brought the deck to do it.

    • @SymmetricalDocking
      @SymmetricalDocking Місяць тому +2

      He got it, Carl didn't play the Choke on curve in Game 3 because it would have made the video too short.

    • @Starkipraggy
      @Starkipraggy Місяць тому

      @@SymmetricalDocking it also would have been countered

    • @SymmetricalDocking
      @SymmetricalDocking Місяць тому

      @@Starkipraggy He only had 2 mana and did not have a counterspell.

    • @Starkipraggy
      @Starkipraggy Місяць тому

      @@SymmetricalDocking 28:00 spellsnare??

  • @Unit-Wreck
    @Unit-Wreck Місяць тому +109

    Carl always manages to get me on his side, no matter what deck or format he is playing. As an Amulet Titan player, seeing him pilot the lands deck so expertly is awesome

    • @sandorc
      @sandorc Місяць тому +8

      i wanted him to win so bad!

  • @erikvanderlaan1245
    @erikvanderlaan1245 Місяць тому +77

    me remembering cardmarket replying to me they probably wont play legacy on the channel.
    so crazy exciting that you guys did this series and played so well.
    cheers!!

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Місяць тому +29

      It took a lot of time to assemble the cards and master the decks but we got there and I'm so happy we did because this series was so fun to play :D

    • @xolotltolox7626
      @xolotltolox7626 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@CardmarketMagic at least you can write them off as business expenses

  • @WolfPage-f8w
    @WolfPage-f8w Місяць тому +223

    Guys can you tell me which player is playing lands? Nothing about either players outfit tells me.

    • @Ezullof
      @Ezullof Місяць тому +48

      I only see one player and a landlord

    • @Mr.StarrordG
      @Mr.StarrordG Місяць тому +1

      🤣

  • @kurowasanabe
    @kurowasanabe Місяць тому +170

    Honestly kind of sad Andrea won't get the triple crown. I am now rooting for that stack of lands who suspiciously looks like a person.

  • @firedestroyer53
    @firedestroyer53 Місяць тому +36

    Beautiful play by thoralf at the end there, was on the edge of my seat the whole time

  • @ScottySmith1957
    @ScottySmith1957 Місяць тому +8

    This channel is just such a blessing. It really can't be understated how enjoyable and well put together these videos are. Without these videos I would have literally no clue how almost any format functions and it makes each deck/format seem so fun and inviting. The videos are so well edited, it's not hard to parse how the games play. I just love this channel so much. Ty for all of the videos, I think I've watched every single one over the last couple years!

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Місяць тому +2

      Thank you! That's really kind of you to say :D we put a lot of love and effort into these so I greatly appreciate that you enjoy them

  • @bigt1574
    @bigt1574 Місяць тому +104

    This was the most insane match I’ve ever seen! Great work guys!

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Місяць тому

      I'm really happy you enjoyed it :D is there a specific format you'd like to see for the next one?

    • @FreshPrinceOfBelA17
      @FreshPrinceOfBelA17 Місяць тому

      @@CardmarketMagic Could you guys redo the series of Best Deck Ever with Best Brews per format. Have like 100 or so submissions per format and then have players test out the decks and then do a top 8 of best Brews in xyz format

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Місяць тому

      @@FreshPrinceOfBelA17 that would be an unfathomable amount of work 😅 we would have to shut down the channel for months just to process all the submissions and test the 100 decks per format. But it sounds fun if it was possible!

    • @FreshPrinceOfBelA17
      @FreshPrinceOfBelA17 Місяць тому

      @@CardmarketMagic maybe cut it down to 50 lol I know how magic players are always in the kitchen when it comes to deck ideas and diversity per format. I know that with many different takes on decks and archetypes, maybe have a bit of a extra work in having those decks have some tangible records of sucess from like RCQs, RCs etc

    • @elijahlyons8164
      @elijahlyons8164 Місяць тому

      ​@@CardmarketMagicI feel like pauper is an awesome choice after legacy. That would give you some time to prepare for vintage😉

  • @Narakiomal
    @Narakiomal Місяць тому +112

    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH MY HEART
    AHHHHHHHHHHHH WHAT A GAME
    WHAT A MATCH
    WHAT A SERIES!!!!!
    I LOVE IT SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I cannot congratulate everyone involved well enough, I dare say this was the best "best ever" series yet with ONE HELL of a nail bitter Finals holy shit. Congratulations Carl and Thoralf for playing it out of your minds in these games HOLY MIRACLE LANDS!!!

  • @tallesmanhaes1317
    @tallesmanhaes1317 Місяць тому +287

    After this tournament, i hope we see soon tournament of vintage, would be crazy

    • @natben6099
      @natben6099 Місяць тому +9

      not gonna happen unless they use proxies

    • @Ornithopter470
      @Ornithopter470 Місяць тому +13

      Vintage is also mainly just whoever wins the dieroll.

    • @boataccident1492
      @boataccident1492 Місяць тому +9

      there's also not nearly as much variance in terms of decks, its mostly just manaless dredge or artifact combo decks

    • @crawdaddy2004
      @crawdaddy2004 Місяць тому +33

      @@Ornithopter470This is a huge misunderstanding of the format. Vintage decks are even more likely to run Force of Will than Legacy decks.

    • @jacobstormann4452
      @jacobstormann4452 Місяць тому +34

      There’s a lot more variety in Vintage than you’d expect. The current meta consists of U/B/x Lurrus (a creature/spell based control deck), Dredge (graveyard based combo), Jewel Shops, (Artifact combo), Mono-White Initiative (Creature based aggro), Underworld Breach (in countless combo and control configurations), Oath and Tell (a big creature combo deck), Doomsday (spell based combo), Sultai (creature based midrange), Squeevine (a manaless control deck, yes really), Traditional Shops (artifact based prison/aggro), all kinds of Lurrus Deathrite Shaman decks (3-4c creature based midrange), various Tinker decks (artifact/spell based combo/control), as well as a few brews.
      Also Vintage is a lot more interactive than you’d imagine. Force of Will/Negation/Vigor, Wasteland/Strip Mine, Spell Pierce, Flusterstorm, Null Rod/Collector Ouphe, Pyroblast, Lavinia, Swords to Plowshares, Leyline of the Void, Tabernacle, and more, all go a long way towards keeping all-in combo in check. Ironically, the presence of powerful combo and Stax options actually encourages Vintage decks to interact with the opponent, as ignoring your opponent is just asking to die/get locked out of the game. Vintage is a cool format, and one of these tournaments for Vintage would be pretty sweet.

  • @viviblue7277
    @viviblue7277 Місяць тому +24

    What a nail biter of a finale! Legacy gameplay where the players know their decks inside and out is always so exciting!

  • @halfdanfiskerangen9025
    @halfdanfiskerangen9025 Місяць тому +6

    Really proud of you guys! This match displayed a very high level of skill, especially during the plays around 45:00 with juggling with tight sequencing. It is really a delight to watch these old school videos where every single decision matters a ton

    • @jcanizales
      @jcanizales Місяць тому +1

      That particular sequence of plays you mention is the best I've ever seen in a game of Magic. It required from both players intimate knowledge of the decks, fast and great thinking, and a good dose of luck, and it was going to decide the winner of the game.

    • @Jestemkioskiem
      @Jestemkioskiem Місяць тому +2

      I wonder if that actually was the right call? (Thoralf spinning the top)
      If swords is the top card of his deck, it doesn't matter what he does.
      If one of his other 2 outs is the top card, he shouldn't spend the mana. So he should only top if swords is the 2nd or 3rd card of his deck.
      BUT! If he doesn't spend the mana and the top card is Brainstorm (which it actually was), he still has the mana to cast it and look 3 cards deep (not 4, because one of them is always the top). So he gets to essentially top with no risk by casting it, because at that point swords is his only out. If he tops into a Brainstorm then it doesn't do anything because it will just show the same 3 cards.
      So the question is - is it more likely for his 3 mana out to be the top card, or is it more likely that swords is 2nd or 3rd? How much does Brainstorm affect the math? It's extremely close and in hindsight it didn't matter at all which he picked here, but I'd love for someone to do the math on this. These kind of sequencing math problems are one of my favorite aspects of the game, but I'm on my phone with no decklist and won't lose sleep trying to count what he had left in the deck lol

    • @halfdanfiskerangen9025
      @halfdanfiskerangen9025 Місяць тому

      @@Jestemkioskiem Yea, what you mention is just the thing that made me love this video. You can certainly discuss what the right play was there, the thing I really like though is the fact that they vocalised their thought process so even if you disagree with their decision it makes it easy to follow what was going through their heads. And all in all I feel they played pretty tight

  • @helfiswelf
    @helfiswelf Місяць тому +3

    I really appreciate how we get an inside scoop on their sideboard plans and in between plays. This was a brilliant expose of mental magic.

  • @khornii8129
    @khornii8129 Місяць тому +55

    Proud of having chosen Miracles in the poll, the deck is so sick

    • @floyd4481
      @floyd4481 Місяць тому

      Me too it's one of if not my favorite deck in all of magic although I like all UW control variants I was kinda scared near the finale but was glad tht Miracle overcame the odds it truly was a miracle

  • @chadswenson8519
    @chadswenson8519 Місяць тому +12

    I think it's fair to say that this channel probably has some of the best magic players mixed with amazing humor. Carl is a cardmarket employee and plays on the level of a pro!

    • @jcanizales
      @jcanizales Місяць тому

      Right?? Galaxy brain plays left and right!

  • @janmelantu7490
    @janmelantu7490 Місяць тому +57

    Thoralf basically guessed Carl’s opening hand accurately, and then said “that’s probably not his hand”…oh honey

  • @bricelory9534
    @bricelory9534 Місяць тому +6

    What a ride, full of ups and downs! And once again, we get to see great performances from both decks leading to such a knife-edge final game. Great plays from both sides, and that's what ultimately really matters!
    Thank you for this great series! Well done everyone involved!

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Місяць тому +1

      I'm truly thrilled that you enjoyed it :) I'm really proud of this series. I hope you enjoy what comes up as well!

  • @davec8385
    @davec8385 Місяць тому +11

    What a truly incredible series! I can't believe how it all played out :) thank you once again for sharing these games as they bring me much joy. I hope you have a great rest of your day

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Місяць тому +2

      I'm really happy you enjoyed them :D have a wonderful day!

  • @caelinjackson-king1208
    @caelinjackson-king1208 Місяць тому +3

    What an amazing series! I really enjoyed the back and forth between the decks, and was amazed to see the conclusion. I must say I'm surprised Carl did not decide to rishadan port on that final turn after using it at every opportunity before!

  • @LeifTheRogue
    @LeifTheRogue Місяць тому +16

    WOW that was a match and a half. Gonna space this message out to hopefully avoid spoiling for people
    I was rooting for miracles all game, and was scared with the beginning…but that was a GREAT show from both of you guys. Happy to see the deck I rooted for win…even if it took a miracle to happen

  • @dekina1198
    @dekina1198 Місяць тому +14

    the music was so fitting all the time, good job with the editing carl!
    and holy cow, this was so damn close!

  • @Slummock
    @Slummock Місяць тому +8

    What a game! That sneak of info for best deck ever, I can only hope the upsets continue, rooting for pauper, let's get more attention on best format ever!

  • @QuietlyHere666
    @QuietlyHere666 Місяць тому +16

    I feel so bad for [losing player] i really wanted to see [losing deck] in the cross format finals

  • @aeronhoare7706
    @aeronhoare7706 Місяць тому +89

    4:39 hindsight is 20/20, but so is Marit Lage

  • @DrCrazyPhenom
    @DrCrazyPhenom Місяць тому +16

    Congrats Toffel. What a comeback. The mad search for swords all the way to angels + elspeth to party like 2012.
    I mean a jace mill kill, into a flash beatdown and finally a proper miracle win. Well done.
    And Carl, seeing you play the decks you like is a joy.
    Also there is something cathartic about seeing merit lage get one mana swordsd over and over again

  • @subtleknife1
    @subtleknife1 Місяць тому +32

    Why is it so cute when Thoralf says “Marit Large”

  • @BestestBuddys
    @BestestBuddys Місяць тому +1

    One of the most exciting matches I've seen on the channel! Great plays by both of you, I can't believe all the twists and turns

  • @oskioskioski
    @oskioskioski Місяць тому +18

    Holy crap what a match! Lands was so dominant for the first three games that I thought half the video would be spoiler-block filler, but then Thoralf pulled off some miracles and made an insane comeback to the game and match.

  • @tonyshiakallis7878
    @tonyshiakallis7878 Місяць тому +1

    I had this video on in the background while I was playing some games. The game was paused for about an hour. Not a minute wasted, Thank you! ⛪vs🏝 top tier stuff lads

  • @exaltx9406
    @exaltx9406 Місяць тому +43

    Finally! The finals is here! I'm rooting for Miracles!

  • @ALGameLink
    @ALGameLink Місяць тому

    Honestly, this is the best, most entertaining match of MTG I have ever seen. Production quality is over 9000. Wow guys, bravo!

  • @int3r4ct
    @int3r4ct Місяць тому +9

    I've been rooting for Miracles the entire time since Top is one of my favorite cards because of just how insane it is in terms of card advantage, and that it came out when I started playing Magic.
    Can't wait for the Vintage Best Deck Ever Tournament :P

    • @naphackDT
      @naphackDT Місяць тому

      Isn't that just vintage?

  • @SilverAlex92
    @SilverAlex92 Місяць тому

    Omg what a series of games! That ending! Truly both decks lived up to their names and showed why both deserve the title of the best legacy decks ever. Amazing content. That ending was beautifully nail bitting down to the last turm. Couldnt have been more perfect.

  • @lp.6559
    @lp.6559 Місяць тому +4

    was on the edge of my seat for the whole thing. Great ending!

  • @timr8159
    @timr8159 Місяць тому

    This is my favourite Cardmarket video ever. It has it all - excellent piloting, intricate plays, fun commentary and atmosphere, top-notch editing and tense matches.
    Carl, I was so rooting for you and lands - you pilot this deck so extremely well! Would love to see you playing it on the channel again .
    Kudos & congrats to Toffel for taking it home!

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you for all your kind words :) I really hope you'll enjoy the next series as well

  • @Nermis02
    @Nermis02 Місяць тому +7

    Great video,
    also Carl if you are reading this, you still had chance even after the entreat if only you had tapped one of the plains to not die on that turn. T. stage to copy blast zone but without the counter to clear the angels.
    I wish lands made it to the top 8 of the best decks of the best decks ever.

    • @nathans1954
      @nathans1954 Місяць тому +7

      Since thespian's stage has to tap, it copies the blast zone but then is still tapped. The elspeth was what won the game; otherwise Carl gets another turn and can clear the angels. Super close though!!

    • @iampepheb
      @iampepheb Місяць тому +5

      If Carl ports one of the plains on upkeep he wins the game since Thoralf can't cast Elspeth.

    • @fergusfisher1315
      @fergusfisher1315 Місяць тому +1

      @@iampephebin this case thoralf would have just blocked the zombies with the angles, no need to cast elspeth

  • @NerzugalRP
    @NerzugalRP Місяць тому +1

    What an amazing series and especially final match! I think it really highlighted just how true the "every decision matters" claim from the intro really is! Looking forward to the next!

  • @louiscabrera8550
    @louiscabrera8550 Місяць тому +32

    The hype is real for this one!
    Let's go Miracle!!

  • @yaenne888
    @yaenne888 Місяць тому

    I‘m so so happy that Miracles won! Because of this deck I was looking forward to this series. It was my first Legacy decks with a lot of good memories. Through the whole tournament I thought like 10 times that this is it, the end is near. But Miracles defied the odds every time! Don‘t even let me get started on the finals…
    If there ever was a fitting name for a deck, it‘s this one.
    Congratulations!

  • @ChewyElephant
    @ChewyElephant Місяць тому +41

    "Hindsight is 20/20" So is a Marit Lage token!

  • @byrontheusurper6505
    @byrontheusurper6505 Місяць тому +2

    37:22 i love the exhausted "no, go away"

  • @jonathanforsum5357
    @jonathanforsum5357 Місяць тому +16

    PERFECTION! This is definetely the best youtube video i’ve ever watched, and it’s better than any movie!
    The supsense, confidence, bluffing, humor, extremely over the top costume, excellent music and suspense, Toffel being up against the wall, interactive interesting and high-level gameplay, great editing, swings and MIRACLES! And it’s blatantly clear how much fun you’re having!
    You’ve truly outdone yourself.

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you :D I'm thrilled that you enjoyed it! I'm really happy how the games played out, even if I lost 😅

  • @99wattr89
    @99wattr89 Місяць тому +1

    Wow! What an amazing variety of thrilling games!
    You both played so well, I would absolutely have believed that this was a match between *two* champions.

  • @mikeyparker961
    @mikeyparker961 Місяць тому +3

    1hr Cardmarket episode! Let’s go!

  • @911Jakez
    @911Jakez Місяць тому +1

    Caaaarl your lands outfit is iconic!!! Ive never played legacy but this series has been one of the coolest tournament styles of magic I've ever seen!

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you! I'm really happy you enjoyed the series :D and my cool lands costume 😎

  • @zandercrawley1628
    @zandercrawley1628 Місяць тому +10

    Wow, that Bog play to “counter” his snap caster magic really impressed me with how much he knows his deck. It’s like his Batman utility belt with a bunch of gadgets and gizmos for niche issues.

  • @TJ_PH
    @TJ_PH 4 дні тому +1

    Hey Carl, I know you’re a very busy guy.
    But I noticed maybe one editor added this feature in 47:53 where they make a pointer to tell us which cards you’re putting to the bottom of your deck, and I really appreciate it, because it helps me learn without having to rewind, which cards you chose to mulligan to the bottom.
    So kudos for that small feature. I hope I can see more of it in your videos, sorry for adding more work for the editors.

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  4 дні тому +1

      I added that pointer from a suggestion from the viewers and I put it in all videos with hands displayed. I'm happy you enjoy it :) it only takes me a few seconds it's not that bad

    • @TJ_PH
      @TJ_PH 4 дні тому

      @@CardmarketMagic really helpful, i rewind a lot when watching videos where there’s a mulligan. It’s very educational to be able to see how you weigh which cards to send to the bottom.
      Thanks!

  • @daedalusdreamjournal5925
    @daedalusdreamjournal5925 Місяць тому +18

    Will this be in best of 5 like the previous tournaments?

  • @andredornelles8014
    @andredornelles8014 Місяць тому

    This is the best video series about Magic in UA-cam, well done

  • @gamptrak
    @gamptrak Місяць тому +16

    Noooooo! I wanted Carl and lands to go all the way. This was an amazing game, and a phenomenal tournament all around! I think it was the BEST Best Deck Ever Series yet! Thank you Carl and Cardmarket team for making the best magic videos out there!

    • @MrAvatarzan
      @MrAvatarzan Місяць тому +3

      Game 3 especially was absurd that Thoralf worked his way out from a Choke lock...

    • @BludMun
      @BludMun Місяць тому

      ​@@MrAvatarzanthere's a reason why Andrea didn't care all too much

    • @ReederMG
      @ReederMG Місяць тому

      +1
      I wanted Carl to win this one too.
      If he had just gotten that Punishing Fire he would've had a clean 3-0.

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Місяць тому +5

      I'm happy you were rooting for me :D I was really proud of my plays this time, but Thoralf played really well and the top of his library was kinder than mine in some key moment 😅 I'll get that crown next time 👑

    • @ReederMG
      @ReederMG Місяць тому +1

      @@CardmarketMagic And I'll be rooting for you when you do Carl! You're my favorite to watch

  • @GreenMonkeySam
    @GreenMonkeySam Місяць тому +2

    Big thanks to Carl for all of his hard work. What a great series. This is what Magic is about! Much love from Canada!

  • @trevorstammler
    @trevorstammler Місяць тому +4

    “This one’s gonna be long… cuz we’re both playing really slow decks.”
    Me, seeing the 1 hr 8 min video length- “This is where the fun begins”

  • @BrunoFonsecaPT
    @BrunoFonsecaPT Місяць тому

    Absolutely epic final! Probably the best duel in card market history… well done!

  • @CharlotteMimic
    @CharlotteMimic Місяць тому +8

    25:30 Wait, does Miracles seriously not have even one Rest in Peace or a Back to Basics in the sideboard? Oh no.

    • @CharlotteMimic
      @CharlotteMimic Місяць тому +6

      Ok I promise I will never doubt Miracles ever again

    • @SkyBlade79
      @SkyBlade79 Місяць тому +1

      Was Rest in Peace released yet? It was dropped in October 2012 with Return to Ravnica, and the infographic on the video says that the deck is also 2012, so it depends when in 2012/if people started using RIP yet

  • @cesarkirilo2775
    @cesarkirilo2775 Місяць тому

    Thoralf remembered the cards from the top and even had the coldblood to wait for the final hit... thats a great example of the huge difference between a pro and casual players. You guys made an amazing mtg showdown!

  • @laeclorentzen6111
    @laeclorentzen6111 Місяць тому +3

    46:28 that was epic

  • @mannfrednl637
    @mannfrednl637 Місяць тому

    This final was truly amazing. You already blew my mind with the final for the Modern format and the infinite Emrakul loop but this final is really on another level.
    As you always said, every decision matters.
    Nice costume Carl by the way

  • @ievyer
    @ievyer Місяць тому +7

    Ladies and gentlemen, today we have witnessed a miracle!

  • @nikos731
    @nikos731 Місяць тому

    Congrats for closing the best video series you ever did. Amazing plays, amazing skills, amazing commentary. I was on the edge of my seat the whole game. What a final!!! From 0-2 to 3-2!!! My beloved Miracles is the winner!! 🎉🎉🎉

  • @Matyanson
    @Matyanson Місяць тому +3

    I love the thumbnails hahah

  • @antonchichona6700
    @antonchichona6700 Місяць тому +1

    That was so intense. I was rooting sooo hard for Carl, you played AMAZING buddy. Best gameplay channel on youtube, don't stop filming!!

  • @9288Savior
    @9288Savior Місяць тому +8

    3:11 Why does the *Blast Zone* enter tapped? It doesn't say on the card that it has to enter tapped, am I missing something? *{::>_

    • @nonlamesniper
      @nonlamesniper Місяць тому +2

      You sir, are right

    • @Franciscomeirajr
      @Franciscomeirajr Місяць тому +1

      Oops, it was just a missplay

    • @999lijpo999
      @999lijpo999 Місяць тому +1

      Didn't matter, blast zone enters with a charge counter, so it can't blow up any tokens.

    • @9288Savior
      @9288Savior Місяць тому

      @@999lijpo999 True but is he technically allowed to bring it in tapped if it's not supposed to? For example what if there was a card that said "Destroy target untapped land" (Which there is not) but i'm just saying rules are rules. I can understand if it was casual but this is a Grand Finals to see which Legacy deck is the best ever.

    • @999lijpo999
      @999lijpo999 Місяць тому

      @@9288Savior Don't care

  • @SkylarPastor
    @SkylarPastor Місяць тому +2

    It's really crazy how many different outs Lands has, it felt like Carl kept having to pivot his game plan several times throughout the matches but I was surprised by how well he piloted it!

  • @HighLanderPonyYT
    @HighLanderPonyYT Місяць тому +5

    I didn't know you could use lands as equip spells.

  • @deadpiksel
    @deadpiksel Місяць тому

    What a way to end the tournament! Excellent demonstration of what both decks do in a really grindy set and couldn't ask for a more intense end to it all! Wicked plays and heck yeahh! So excited to see the next series!

  • @squaldon3585
    @squaldon3585 Місяць тому +4

    Can the punishing fire target the jace ?

    • @thatepicwizardguy
      @thatepicwizardguy Місяць тому +1

      uhhh weirdly yes.
      "DEALING DAMAGE TO PLANESWALKERS
      If a source you control would deal noncombat damage to an opponent, you may have that source deal that damage to a planeswalker that opponent controls instead. This is a redirection effect: you choose whether to redirect the damage as the redirection effect is applied, and it's subject to the normal rules for ordering replacement effects. The player affected by the damage chooses the order in which to apply such effects, but the controller of the source of the damage chooses whether the damage is redirected. Note that this redirection can't be applied to combat damage.
      # For example, although you can't target a planeswalker with Shock, you can target your opponent with Shock, and then as Shock resolves, choose to have Shock deal its 2 damage to one of your opponent's planeswalkers. If you do, two loyalty counters are removed from that planeswalker.
      # You can't choose to split the damage between a player and a planeswalker. In the Shock example above, you couldn't have Shock deal 1 damage to the player and 1 damage to the planeswalker."

    • @ReederMG
      @ReederMG Місяць тому +2

      The Oracle text got an errata

  • @PM-ut6sy
    @PM-ut6sy Місяць тому

    This is imo one of your best videos, which is already a high bar. Such a rollercoaster ride, exciting to the last second. Thoralf‘s mind games are also just great to watch 👍

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Місяць тому

      Thank you :) I'm really happy that you enjoyed it

  • @michaeltate6367
    @michaeltate6367 Місяць тому +4

    I know I'm watching this with the benefit of seeing all the information available to both players, but it's really sad to see Carl not use hus rishadan port in the final turn or two of the last game. A port activation in Thoralf's upkeep to tap a plains would prevent the Elspeth

  • @mrpinguimninja
    @mrpinguimninja Місяць тому

    What a masterclass, this video was amazing. Toffel and Carl played their decks masterfully, Legacy is magic's biggest skill expression

  • @Lumpalooza
    @Lumpalooza Місяць тому +5

    Hahaha best costume so far

  • @doylerudolph7965
    @doylerudolph7965 Місяць тому

    NO! I can't believe it ended like that! What an incredible finish - I am absolutely stunned by some of the plays made in this series, but especially this match. Carl's timing on Wastelands was impeccable, and his patience was insane.
    Even though the deck I was rooting for (which is the deck I wish I could play, curse the banlist and the price) didn't win, this was still one of the best series I've ever watched.

  • @gamion4567
    @gamion4567 Місяць тому +5

    How did punishing fire target a planeswalker?

    • @gustavoluciano6417
      @gustavoluciano6417 Місяць тому +1

      Most cards with "target creature or player" were errata'd to say "any target" punishing fire included

    • @MISAKA-cd2hq
      @MISAKA-cd2hq Місяць тому +5

      Up until Dominaria, noncombat damage dealt to players could be redirected to a planeswalker they controlled. Punishing Fire was printed while that redirection rule was in place, so it was always able to hit planeswalkers. Its Oracle text was updated to "Punishing Fire deals 2 damage to any target." to reflect its original usage with the new rules.

    • @AleMaciel01
      @AleMaciel01 Місяць тому

      The oracle text got an errata, can target anything now

    • @KonoNana
      @KonoNana Місяць тому

      @@MISAKA-cd2hq Please correct me if I'm wrong, but in terms of lore aren't players considered planeswalker and that's why "player" and "planeswalker" were mostly considered the same for targeting when planeswalker cards were introduced (though outside of damage I can't think of any effects that target players that would've made sense on planeswalkers)?
      I guess it's essentially the same for attacks as well, isn't it? You used to target players and then you could target either players or (other) planeswalkers.

  • @monikaswife2434
    @monikaswife2434 Місяць тому

    Carl's land costume is the greatest thing ever and this video was such a rollercoaster, what an amazing series!!

  • @sandorc
    @sandorc Місяць тому +4

    hahahah the thumbnail took more editing than the video.. for sure...

    • @paradieskiosk
      @paradieskiosk Місяць тому +1

      i bet carl's suit is for real ;)

    • @sandorc
      @sandorc Місяць тому

      @@paradieskiosk its the expectation that i have

  • @marxmeesterlijk
    @marxmeesterlijk Місяць тому +1

    this is one of the most amazing matches of magic i've ever seen. I'm sad my favourite deck didn't win, but it put up an amazing show and both players played out of their minds. 11/10.

  • @Maladroit-c6s
    @Maladroit-c6s Місяць тому

    Holy, what a ride. This has to be the best gameplay video you guys have made to date. Can't wait for the next best deck ever series!

  • @Kaiasky
    @Kaiasky Місяць тому +4

    CLAP IF YOU BELIEVE IN MARIT LAGE

  • @liquiduso
    @liquiduso Місяць тому

    I love me an underdog so I was rooting for Thoralf until I remembered that I was supposed to be rooting for Carl! He just seemed so happy that he got to play his favorite deck, and piloted it with such grace!
    Another fantastic series from you guys - great job!
    For a future series, since there isn't that many 1v1 formats left, maybe a 'best Pro Tour deck ever' would make sense?

  • @bennettpalmer1741
    @bennettpalmer1741 Місяць тому +3

    It's super sad to see Carl, who I normally think as one of the weaker players on the channel, cleanly outplay Thoralf from start to finish and still lose. This was possibly his best performance in any video I've seen and it just wasn't enough.

    • @ReederMG
      @ReederMG Місяць тому

      I was devastated when Carl tried digging for the Punishing Fire and just couldn't get it. And then Thoralf got the Swords that he needed. It seemed like Carl had this one in the bag and he just didn't get the one card he needed.

    • @benbarclay4239
      @benbarclay4239 Місяць тому

      I mean the punishing fire wouldn't have won him the game there, only kept him in it a little longer.

    • @ReederMG
      @ReederMG Місяць тому

      @@benbarclay4239 How so? As far as I could tell, Jace's ultimate was Thoralf's only remaining win condition. Punishing Fire would've made it so Thoralf could never get to ultimate, and Carl would eventually either get through with Marit Lage or with Field of the Dead zombies.

    • @lysander3262
      @lysander3262 Місяць тому

      He should've just played Choke the first turn he could, otherwise good stuff

  • @viperion_nz
    @viperion_nz 17 днів тому

    Everything about this match was epic and the banter was absolute top shelf. Well done to everyone!

  • @CostabiIe
    @CostabiIe Місяць тому +3

    Not to be a downer, but game three is mathematically over, if Carl had just accepted that he's going to get Jace ulted and took a different line instead of digging for Punishing Fire.
    There's a second Rishadan Port in the Graveyard (41:51), we could just return that, Wasteland and one random land, tap both of Throalfs Plains with our two Ports on his turn and Wasteland the Karakas. Now Thoralf has no mana and no cards in hand. Even if he topdecks Plow for the Marit Lage we'll make on endstep, he can't cast it. And yes we get Jace ulted with that line, but we still have that one random land in hand, that'll become our library, so we don't lose during our drawstep.
    Alternatively there's only 2 more Swords to Plowshares in Throalfs deck (assuming he plays 4), which is the only card that can interact with Marit Lage (one of which Thoralf draws), since the Karakas is gone also and he can never play a blue spell. If we can fill our hand with 7 lands instead, we'll be able to make 2 more Marit Lages on Thoralfs endstep in addition to the one we have on board, by dredging Loam during our next two draw steps and still have a card to draw on our last turn after that. Since there's only 2 Plows, but we can make 3 Marit Lages, there is nothing that can save Thoralf.

    • @camfunme
      @camfunme Місяць тому +4

      Marit Lage is legendary.

    • @Willd2p2
      @Willd2p2 Місяць тому

      That line still doesn't beat Thoralf drawing a fetch/Tundra with Swords being on top of the library (the first one, the second is nonsense since Marit Lage is legendary). It's a fine line but it's not a 100% win and probably not much better than trying to find a Punishing Fire like Karl did.

    • @CostabiIe
      @CostabiIe Місяць тому

      @@Willd2p2 The first line isn't 100%, but still much better, the chances of drawing the single Fetch into the two of Swords is much lower than whiffing on Punishing Fire. The second one also is actually 100%. You don't make the Marit Lages at the same time in the second line. You make the one that's on board after you get Jace ulted on Thoralfs endstep. Now on your turn you have seven cards is library, you dredge Loam instead of drawing. Thoralf drew swords on his turn and your Marit Lage gets swords so you get back Depths and Stage and make another one on Throalfs next endstep. On your next turn you have four cards in library and dredge loam again. If Throalf drew his second Swords in a row you can use Loam to get Depths and Stage back, make Marit Lage on Thoralfs endstep and there is no card Thoralf can draw, because he has already used every sword in the deck. Snapcaster/Clique is not enough either, because we can keep him off 3 mana through Port. We don't deck, because we still have one card left.

    • @Willd2p2
      @Willd2p2 Місяць тому

      @@CostabiIe I think you underestimate the chance that Thoralf has the correct two cards (they can actually be in either order and he gets at least one top spin to find them) but I do think that first line is probably still better than Karl's.
      The second line still doesn't quite work as explained because you don't have the mana to do all of: finish the turn with 7 lands in hand; wasteland Karakas; and create Marit Lage on the end step of the turn that Jace ultimates. I think you do get a guaranteed 2 Marit Lage's with this line but Thoralf gets 3 draws and many looks to find swords and at least one of those turns a miracled entreat buys a turn too (relic is also an out vs this line). Again it might be better than Karl's line but is not 100%.

  • @Foede
    @Foede Місяць тому

    oh my lord, this is why I love good ol' 1vs1 magic the gathering
    This series was amazing, and the finale was even better, both Carl and Toffel played so good, and made the entire thing super enjoyable, easy one of the best videos of this channel

  • @burritoomg
    @burritoomg Місяць тому

    Amazingly well played series. I feel like we got to see so many different routes to the win for both players. Well done, gentlemen.

  • @dracomasters9039
    @dracomasters9039 Місяць тому +1

    Yes!! My favorite Legacy deck won! Awesome stuff 👍🏻

  • @amaldabe
    @amaldabe Місяць тому

    That play at the 46 minute mark. Utterly incredible. Bravo to both players.

  • @cronchable
    @cronchable Місяць тому

    this was an AMAZING video. Incredible match for the grand finale! Thank you so much for making these! And making them well!!! GREAT work everybody! Cardmarket keeps making some of the best gameplay content out there! Your channel really is one where I am excited whenever I see a new release, no matter what it's about. It's always a banger!

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Місяць тому +1

      I'm really happy to hear that :D thank you for your kind words!