That’s a really good point about competing with Chinese brands. Steinhart seems to only make homage watches and 90% of Ali express watches are homage watches. So they are direct competition and they are definitely getting better all the time. Your photography is really nice. Keep it up my friend.
Thanks as always my friend! You hit the nail on the head. It would be a different story if they had good original designs. But as things stand, they seem to be the slowest-improving brand in the homage watch scene.
Its aluminium-bezeled cousin is even more affordable, btw. :) Before I even watch the video, I will say this re the movement: It's absolutely, 100% worth the extra cost over the NH34. I used to own the Steinhart Vintage Pepsi (Pussy Galore homage) with the SW330 and I currently own the San Martin SN0109 with the NH34. It's not even close between the two, but I'll list some key differences: 1. SW330 was, hands down, the smoothest movement to interact with that I ever owned. You hardly noticed you were winding it, it was that smooth. Not "vague" or "twitchy" when you set the time... just smooth AF. Granted: That model watch had a slightly oversized crown, but the one on the SM isn't tiny, either. The Seiko in my SM feels almost ratchet-y when I hand-wind it. Nothing too bad, but it's far from the buttery smoothness of the SW330. 2. Hand-setting/alignment: My Steinhart was aligned perfectly when I bought it new and it stayed that way over two years or so until I sold it. The San Martin came from the factory with a misaligned GMT-hand, and it's not consistently misaligned. My watch-maker agreed with my assumption that this is down to lack of precision within the movement itself, and not due to sloppy setting of the hands. He said that re-setting the hands probably wouldn't fix the issue. 3. Accuracy. The Steinhart came to me running at +4s/d and settled in at +1 to +2s/d. Very little deviation between different positions. It was one of those watches you rarely have to re-set while you're wearing them. The NH34 started out accurate enough, at -2 to -3s/d on wrist, but it's now down to -5s/d and varies quite a lot between different positions. On wrist it's still reliable enough, but leave it on the winder for a few days and you will have to re-set the time. 4. General quality (I guess?): The San Martin is the only watch I own where it's a bit of a gamble to restart the movement after I set the time. 80% of the time, pushing in the crown will make the minute hand jump significantly, making another re-set necessary. None of my Swiss divers do this/have done this, including the SW330 in my Pussy Galore. I don't own any other Seiko-powered watches, but I've seen this "jumpy" behavior on numerous YT-reviews of all sorts of NH35/34 watches. So I'm pretty sure it's down to the movement, not the watch or its construction.
I am in the market for this exact watch but was concerned with the dial and case shape on my 6.5" wrist. You addressed these issues nicely. Great video as always. Keep up the good work!
Thank you! We (almost) have the same wrist size. It wears brilliantly on my wrist, I'm sure it'll wear even better on yours. The flat case shape does look a bit odd when you're looking at it from the side, but it's super comfortable.
I just bought the Steinhart Ocean Three GMT . Dark blue dial, dark blue / grey ceramic bezel. Tudor white snowflake hands. Red GMT hand & red printed lettering. Beautiful watch, screams class. Looks like a hybrid between a Tudor and a Rolex Bruce Wayne ! £740
Very good review with excellent info. I am considering this watch with the oyster bracelet but unsure whether to get a 39mm or the 42mm. I have a 7 inch wrist so could probably wear either. Some say the 39mm wears small but the 42 is to large. I tend to wear smaller sizes as dress watches as to fit under long sleeve dress shirts. However this watch will be a dress casual wear so am leaning towards the 42. Just don’t want it to be flopping around. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Glad it was helpful! You're right, your wrist size would work well with either. Personally, I'd go with the 39mm. It doesn't wear too small because of the longer straight lugs. From an aesthetic standpoint, I prefer the proportions of the 39mm too. The bezel grip on the 42mm looks too wide/flat, the 39mm is a bit more subtle. Good luck deciding!
Hi Harvind. Really nuanced take on the state of play at Steinhart. No doubt a stunning watch but they should be looking in their rear-view mirrors...the competitors must be filling them now. Fantastic camera work and attention to detail :)
Hey hey .. great video as usual! I'm on my 3rd, there's just something about Steinhart don't ask me what because I just can't give you a straight answer. I had San Martins that have probably been better in terms of quality but the novelty factor wears off very quickly. I still love my Steinharts and I would choose them over a lot of original designs. Keep the dream alive!
Thanks man! I feel you. My Steinharts just feel more ‘buttery’ and ‘warm’ compared to the best AliExpress brands I’ve owned. Those are entirely abstract/subjective definitions, but there’s really no other way to explain it. I guess you just have to own a Steinhart to understand it!
Never owned one of their Gmts, bit have had 3 others....fantastic watches!! Im not a huge fan of their case shape, but they still wear great, are tough, look fantastic and keep great time.
I'm glad you edited your "cheapest" comment to "affordable". I wasn't going to click to watch. There is nothing "cheap" with Steinhart watches. Steinhart makes outstanding watches for the money. Best value watches, homage or not.
Good spot! I only noticed after I posted that ‘cheapest’ might give off the wrong connotation. I was referring to the price, but some may assume it’s a reflection of quality.
@@WristWatching The use of Swiss ETA or Sellita Elabore-grade for less than $500 is remarkable, add to that are sapphire crystal with AR, a solid SS bracelet with solid end links, a milled clasp, and an overall nice fit and finish. It's a wonderful "affordable" Swiss-made watch, period. "Cheap" does connotate an inferior quality.
@@TheFlyrodder68 It’s definitely a killer package, and that’s even before taking the price into account. They’re one of my favourite brands, all of which strangely start with an S! (Sinn, Seiko, Steinhart)
@@WristWatching Seiko depending on the level can be spotty. Misalignments at the budget-friendly level are rampant. Sinn is exceptional as well with original designs, fit and finish, and great specs. It used to be a great buy and is still is but not as great as it used to be. The movement used considering should be upgraded as well. That is why I find Steinhart to be a better buy if one is looking for a decent Swiss-made watch. The application of the Swiss Elabore grade is a great start.
I have this version as well with a ceramic bezel. And peoples reaction is that a rolex. besides that it feels good on the wrist my only gripe is that i want the bigger cyclops
Great review brother! All the negatives you've listed have kept me away from buying a Steinhart. They never seem to correct their mistakes or listen to the consumers either.
Thanks a lot man! If they make those small improvements, they would be absolutely unbeatable for the price. If you can find one for cheap, I’d still recommend trying one out. They ‘feel’ much better than any AliExpress watch I’ve had, it’s hard to put my finger on why exactly.
Nice watch but the Sugess GMT looks so much nicer and the lume is just next level! I have to admit, the Sugess needs some more attention to detail (A lot of sharp edges) but overall, amazing watch for the money!
@@woozertoo could be! The teachers were jumping on the mic most of the time. They were more excited about the kids graduating than the kids themselves 🤣
@@WristWatching yes, I discovered this while listening to a video interview with the CEO of Selitta. Basically you have five functions with a movement of this type, the hour, minute, second and GMT hand, plus the date wheel. The full-out position sets the time, and the GMT hand is slaved to this. That leaves two choices for what the intermediate position on the stem does, since you can only wind it forward and backward. So, you have to choose to jump either the date wheel or the hour hand, given that you want winding in the other direction to move the GMT hand - so it is just a question of which gear train you connect to that intermediate position on the stem. Personally I think winding the time around multiple times to reset the date if an awful nuisance, so that is why I prefer the quick-set date configuration.
That’s interesting, maybe there are differences between the 39mm and 42mm bracelets? The jubilee bracelet on mine feels super comfortable. Buttery smooth and no sharp edges anywhere.
If by ‘true’ you mean a traveller GMT, then no it isn’t. It’s a caller GMT movement. For the price though, it’s not a big issue for me. Swiss traveller GMT movements usually cost well above $1000.
@@WristWatching No. Tissot's Chemin des Tourelles GMT is about $650 and it's a true GMT with 80 Hours of power reserve. Mine runs 0-1 second face up on a timegrapher.
Depends on what you want. If you get the quick set hour hand, you lose the quick-set date. I prefer the latter, thanks. The same movement can be configured either way, but not both, so it is a tradeoff.
@@seayak True. Except there is a clear value difference between the traveler's GMT vs office GMT. Usually the office GMTs are so cheap and has the same value and abundance as Chinese knock offs.
That’s a really good point about competing with Chinese brands. Steinhart seems to only make homage watches and 90% of Ali express watches are homage watches. So they are direct competition and they are definitely getting better all the time. Your photography is really nice. Keep it up my friend.
Thanks as always my friend! You hit the nail on the head. It would be a different story if they had good original designs. But as things stand, they seem to be the slowest-improving brand in the homage watch scene.
I have 2 Steinharts including the watch in this video. I have had several people tell me they like my Rolex. They are that good.
Its aluminium-bezeled cousin is even more affordable, btw. :)
Before I even watch the video, I will say this re the movement: It's absolutely, 100% worth the extra cost over the NH34. I used to own the Steinhart Vintage Pepsi (Pussy Galore homage) with the SW330 and I currently own the San Martin SN0109 with the NH34. It's not even close between the two, but I'll list some key differences:
1. SW330 was, hands down, the smoothest movement to interact with that I ever owned. You hardly noticed you were winding it, it was that smooth. Not "vague" or "twitchy" when you set the time... just smooth AF. Granted: That model watch had a slightly oversized crown, but the one on the SM isn't tiny, either. The Seiko in my SM feels almost ratchet-y when I hand-wind it. Nothing too bad, but it's far from the buttery smoothness of the SW330.
2. Hand-setting/alignment: My Steinhart was aligned perfectly when I bought it new and it stayed that way over two years or so until I sold it. The San Martin came from the factory with a misaligned GMT-hand, and it's not consistently misaligned. My watch-maker agreed with my assumption that this is down to lack of precision within the movement itself, and not due to sloppy setting of the hands. He said that re-setting the hands probably wouldn't fix the issue.
3. Accuracy. The Steinhart came to me running at +4s/d and settled in at +1 to +2s/d. Very little deviation between different positions. It was one of those watches you rarely have to re-set while you're wearing them. The NH34 started out accurate enough, at -2 to -3s/d on wrist, but it's now down to -5s/d and varies quite a lot between different positions. On wrist it's still reliable enough, but leave it on the winder for a few days and you will have to re-set the time.
4. General quality (I guess?): The San Martin is the only watch I own where it's a bit of a gamble to restart the movement after I set the time. 80% of the time, pushing in the crown will make the minute hand jump significantly, making another re-set necessary. None of my Swiss divers do this/have done this, including the SW330 in my Pussy Galore. I don't own any other Seiko-powered watches, but I've seen this "jumpy" behavior on numerous YT-reviews of all sorts of NH35/34 watches. So I'm pretty sure it's down to the movement, not the watch or its construction.
only area they need to improve is the Lume. On their Ocean One double red diver, the lume is very strong.
I am in the market for this exact watch but was concerned with the dial and case shape on my 6.5" wrist. You addressed these issues nicely. Great video as always. Keep up the good work!
Thank you! We (almost) have the same wrist size. It wears brilliantly on my wrist, I'm sure it'll wear even better on yours. The flat case shape does look a bit odd when you're looking at it from the side, but it's super comfortable.
I just bought the Steinhart Ocean Three GMT . Dark blue dial, dark blue / grey ceramic bezel. Tudor white snowflake hands. Red GMT hand & red printed lettering. Beautiful watch, screams class. Looks like a hybrid between a Tudor and a Rolex Bruce Wayne ! £740
Very good review with excellent info. I am considering this watch with the oyster bracelet but unsure whether to get a 39mm or the 42mm. I have a 7 inch wrist so could probably wear either. Some say the 39mm wears small but the 42 is to large. I tend to wear smaller sizes as dress watches as to fit under long sleeve dress shirts. However this watch will be a dress casual wear so am leaning towards the 42. Just don’t want it to be flopping around. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Glad it was helpful! You're right, your wrist size would work well with either. Personally, I'd go with the 39mm. It doesn't wear too small because of the longer straight lugs. From an aesthetic standpoint, I prefer the proportions of the 39mm too. The bezel grip on the 42mm looks too wide/flat, the 39mm is a bit more subtle. Good luck deciding!
Thank you. Very helpful.
Hi Harvind. Really nuanced take on the state of play at Steinhart. No doubt a stunning watch but they should be looking in their rear-view mirrors...the competitors must be filling them now. Fantastic camera work and attention to detail :)
Thank you, John! I love Steinhart, but I'm curious to see where they go from here. The competition is a good thing for us enthusiasts though!
I own both the Ocean One 39mm Ceramic and the GMT "Pepsi" 39mm ceramic. The GMT is my daily wear, but absolutely love both watches.
I wish the Steinhart case curved more to hug the wrist, but I've really enjoyed mine. Terrific value. Excellent review!
Hey hey .. great video as usual! I'm on my 3rd, there's just something about Steinhart don't ask me what because I just can't give you a straight answer. I had San Martins that have probably been better in terms of quality but the novelty factor wears off very quickly. I still love my Steinharts and I would choose them over a lot of original designs. Keep the dream alive!
Thanks man! I feel you. My Steinharts just feel more ‘buttery’ and ‘warm’ compared to the best AliExpress brands I’ve owned. Those are entirely abstract/subjective definitions, but there’s really no other way to explain it. I guess you just have to own a Steinhart to understand it!
@@WristWatching 100 percent agree with everything
Never owned one of their Gmts, bit have had 3 others....fantastic watches!! Im not a huge fan of their case shape, but they still wear great, are tough, look fantastic and keep great time.
They really are special watches! I’ve yet to meet anyone who has only owned *one* Steinhart. You either have none, or you have/had multiple. 🤣
I'm glad you edited your "cheapest" comment to "affordable". I wasn't going to click to watch. There is nothing "cheap" with Steinhart watches. Steinhart makes outstanding watches for the money. Best value watches, homage or not.
Good spot! I only noticed after I posted that ‘cheapest’ might give off the wrong connotation. I was referring to the price, but some may assume it’s a reflection of quality.
@@WristWatching The use of Swiss ETA or Sellita Elabore-grade for less than $500 is remarkable, add to that are sapphire crystal with AR, a solid SS bracelet with solid end links, a milled clasp, and an overall nice fit and finish. It's a wonderful "affordable" Swiss-made watch, period. "Cheap" does connotate an inferior quality.
@@TheFlyrodder68 It’s definitely a killer package, and that’s even before taking the price into account. They’re one of my favourite brands, all of which strangely start with an S! (Sinn, Seiko, Steinhart)
@@WristWatching Seiko depending on the level can be spotty. Misalignments at the budget-friendly level are rampant. Sinn is exceptional as well with original designs, fit and finish, and great specs. It used to be a great buy and is still is but not as great as it used to be. The movement used considering should be upgraded as well. That is why I find Steinhart to be a better buy if one is looking for a decent Swiss-made watch. The application of the Swiss Elabore grade is a great start.
I have the normal 39mm ocean one ceramic and it is a fantastic watch
If only they would've polished the center links, for that jubilee bling... Then this would've been perfect
can someone explain, what actually drives this watch (obviously i am newb) battery? hand movement? winding?
Hand movement :) Lasts for around 50 hours if you stop wearing it
Thanks for this very honest review 👍
Thank you for watching!
what you recommend steeldive or pagani gmt?
Between both NH34 GMT models, I prefer the Pagani. The Steeldive does have better lume though.
I have this version as well with a ceramic bezel. And peoples reaction is that a rolex. besides that it feels good on the wrist
my only gripe is that i want the bigger cyclops
A cyclops upgrade is long overdue! Hope Steinhart does that soon.
Great review brother! All the negatives you've listed have kept me away from buying a Steinhart. They never seem to correct their mistakes or listen to the consumers either.
Thanks a lot man! If they make those small improvements, they would be absolutely unbeatable for the price.
If you can find one for cheap, I’d still recommend trying one out. They ‘feel’ much better than any AliExpress watch I’ve had, it’s hard to put my finger on why exactly.
Great Review ! Great Watch ! 😊 ! Good Video !
Thanks a lot!
Nice watch but the Sugess GMT looks so much nicer and the lume is just next level!
I have to admit, the Sugess needs some more attention to detail (A lot of sharp edges) but overall, amazing watch for the money!
The lume on Sugess beats Steinhart by miles. Which Sugess GMT do you have, is it the BB Pro or their GMT Master homage?
@@WristWatching I bought the Sugess GMT, the one you reviewed a couple of weeks ago.
@@itsmoey Didn’t recognise your new display photo haha
@@WristWatching haha yeh I had to chaneg it up a little.
The school beside my house started partying with loud music in the midst of my recording. 🙃
Must’ve been graduation night 👩🏻🎓
@@woozertoo could be! The teachers were jumping on the mic most of the time. They were more excited about the kids graduating than the kids themselves 🤣
Is it a true gmt? Or office gmt?
The SW330 is an office/caller GMT movement.
@@WristWatching no, it can be configured either way.
@@seayak interesting, I wasn’t aware of that.
@@WristWatching yes, I discovered this while listening to a video interview with the CEO of Selitta. Basically you have five functions with a movement of this type, the hour, minute, second and GMT hand, plus the date wheel. The full-out position sets the time, and the GMT hand is slaved to this. That leaves two choices for what the intermediate position on the stem does, since you can only wind it forward and backward. So, you have to choose to jump either the date wheel or the hour hand, given that you want winding in the other direction to move the GMT hand - so it is just a question of which gear train you connect to that intermediate position on the stem. Personally I think winding the time around multiple times to reset the date if an awful nuisance, so that is why I prefer the quick-set date configuration.
Looked up "plagiarism" and there was a pic of a Steinex next to it. Rolhart.
I wouldn’t compare Steinhart with any CrappyExpress watch
Eh, I'd actually like a diver/GMT hybrid bezel.
I’d like a hybrid too, but this is in between both. GMT markers with diver clicks. You can’t properly use either function.
Great watches !!!
They really are!
I have one but a 42 nice watch but the bracelet is very sharp a jubilee I wil change it but there are better watches at this price e point
That’s interesting, maybe there are differences between the 39mm and 42mm bracelets? The jubilee bracelet on mine feels super comfortable. Buttery smooth and no sharp edges anywhere.
So it's not a true GMT. Not good.
If by ‘true’ you mean a traveller GMT, then no it isn’t. It’s a caller GMT movement. For the price though, it’s not a big issue for me. Swiss traveller GMT movements usually cost well above $1000.
@@WristWatching No. Tissot's Chemin des Tourelles GMT is about $650 and it's a true GMT with 80 Hours of power reserve. Mine runs 0-1 second face up on a timegrapher.
@@Dronetothetop Wow, didn't know about that one. Thanks for sharing!
Depends on what you want. If you get the quick set hour hand, you lose the quick-set date. I prefer the latter, thanks. The same movement can be configured either way, but not both, so it is a tradeoff.
@@seayak True. Except there is a clear value difference between the traveler's GMT vs office GMT. Usually the office GMTs are so cheap and has the same value and abundance as Chinese knock offs.
Matheu Tissot is Swiss made and cheaper than Steinhart
AFAIK they don’t have an automatic GMT in their lineup, only quartz.