They just don't care, and it isn't as profitable as their money printers Counter-Strike and DOTA. Really, the issue is that the TF2 community is absolutely glazing Valve instead of getting on their ass for leaving their game in such a state. And what's worse is that the bots aren't just a TF2 problem, they're becoming a problem in Counter-Strike as well. It's like they know you're not gonna just play something else so they just don't give a shit.
Valve hasn't had a significant update to VAC since 2013. This update auto-banned LMAOBox users. Catbot users replaced LMAOBox in 2017 and Valve has done nothing to #FixTF2
@@victorjohnson5646agreed, and given the data shown in zesty’s controversial video from weeks ago all valve would have to do is restart the servers and put a captcha before queuing or just right at the title screen. Botters are fucked especially if they gotta now include an ai that can detect a series of images linked by subject. Valve could even customize the selection of images themselves to be tf2 or cs2 themed like a revolving door every 2-3 months. Keeps the AI on its toes and unable to maintain consistent access the botters would likely quit paying for all the work now needed.
@@alexello1189 It's actually not the pictures themselves that detect bots, its the mouse movement. The captcha keeps track of where your mouse moves on the screen. Bots move in precise, unwavering speeds and usually go in a perfect straight line to the picture. A real human would waver a bit, maybe move the mouse idly, and with varying speeds. It is VERY hard to make a bot act truly human, because it can only do so much with programming. Say it's told to do a little loop before choosing a picture. Well, when it does that same loop 15 times, the captcha is gonna catch on and realize its a bot.
If Valve can't get their shit together and fix CS2 that is also overrun by cheaters, I have little hope for TF2. But we might as well keep trying, maybe something happens. As the saying goes, 99% of gamblers quit just before they win the jackpot!
@@UghhhVinyl>spam tf2 with negative reviews Valve: our sixteen year old game is dying and there’s no reason leaving servers up, brick it. Fans: why did valve do that?!
It sucks because some days I'm just like, "Yippee! I can't wait to play Casual TF2!" And then as I'm hopping on I just realize, "Oh yeah, I can't." And then I just play Tekken with a big frown on my face.
*Valve is like that one Girlfriend/Boyfriend that dumped you out of nowhere.* Sure they were great and nice years ago, but then they stopped texting you back and then they stopped to hang out with you, so you give them some space and days of silence start to become weeks to become months... and you message them "What's wrong can we talk?" or "Hey are you okay? We don't talk like we used to." And they come back a day later saying "I will msg about it, give me an hour or 2" and then they don't... If Valve just doesn't like us anymore, at least tell us in our faces and not... Ghost us all of a sudden. Just say something man... (This comment may or may not been inspired by past experiences... :"/"
@succyfish5451 fuckin MISS ME with that "they can't do anything" shit. They are a SEVEN BILLION DOLLAR COMPANY that makes close to TWO MILLION A DAY *JUST* from tf2. Even half of that could change hundreds of lives, yet they make 2M A DAY. You're telling me the REVERED company known for REVILUTIONIZING gaming with games like portal, tf2, Dota, etc is DEFEATED by 12 BASEMENT DWELLING CHILDREN? They can CERTAINLY hire SOME devs. Whether it's a treadmill fix or a permanent one, valve can do something. I have when people say they cant. One laptop shouldn't be the sole weakness to valve, revered gaming legends, still making money from games, as well as steam, valued at 7 BILLION dollars. They are NOT unable to fix the best game the have made, and absolute gaming icon, tf2, they just don't want to.
As one of those ghosts, I'd like to step in and give you a bit of crap right now: In my experience, we vanish because _we feel like burdens and don't want to keep dragging down the people we care about._ Especially those of us who are at risk of, uh, how to avoid the YT bots... 'self-unaliving' ourselves. Realizing the likelihood of it happening and just getting it over with instead of dragging it out with our depression and neuroses is our way of avoiding greater heartache. You know, unless you'd rather suddenly wake up to the news of the person you cared about deciding to check out one day instead of just disappearing. (This comment is _one hundred percent_ inspired by *_current_* experiences. >:|)
I started in December despite everything, and it was not fun at all. Bots everywhere, the only way I could play without dying instantly was through the offline practice mode. It’s fine and all, but it’s still so lonely :( And the disrespect to Rick May on the day of his passing is absolutely unforgivable
i wanna share my experience, not just with bots but with the TF2 community aswell around late 2022 and early 2023 alot of people had said the cheater bot numbers have decreased and they havent been popping up anymore, many people said they have been finding only a hand full of bots every 1 out of 4 games. the community rejoiced and thought the crisis was slowly going down and people were living the dream however for me and my friends who were living in asia weren't seeing any change. if anything, we only saw more bots DoesHooter bots, Hotter bots, Astralink bots, Asia bots, sniper gaming bots, racial slur bots, random number or letter bots, and finally Valve bots were absolutely spiking in and around our region. I didn't have the greatest wifi and so trying to play on community servers can be hit or miss alot of the times, Asia and Aus servers are either full or completely empty while Eu and Na servers were simply too laggy for me. i had no escape from casual i tried to get to the bottom of this to try and find other people whove been experiencing a large influx of bots and figuring out how some people say they havent seen a single bot. i went from forums, discord servers, steam groups and even asking my own friends if they were experiencing this kinda thing. it didn't take long to find a group of people that did agree of seeing large number of bots in and around Asia and Australia, however it also didnt take long for me to be shamed by people apart of this so called "friendly" and "positive" community when i tried asking people how they weren't seeing any bots the general response ive gotten was "you're just playing at wrong times", "well i haven't seen any", "statistically the bot activity have went down", "you're just lying", "you're over exaggerating the numbers", "bro saw his first cheater bot and thought he saw 10 of them", "there arent any in America", "just play in community servers", so on and on and on. it gets frustrating when people dont believe you when you're screaming at the top of your lungs with proof. i couldn't play scream fotress and smissmess with my friends at all due to the bot problem, i couldn't play during January and February, it never got better and simply worst as it continues through 2023. again i tried to play scream fortress with my friends for old time sakes, we had fun with the new maps and gamesmodes only to be livid with a new type of bot, crash bots. the game was once more unplayable at all i have given up on tf2, ive sold my hats and deleted the game. recently i tried getting back in only to find no difference, but now its even worse because the bots have somehow gained access once more to Voice chat and text chat. if this protest works then i hope it'll go well for everyone, but i don't have high hopes at all really, if CS2 is also facing a massive cheater problem and valve has yet to fix it than how do you expect tf2 to be treated any better but anyways, lets see what happens
We know why Valve doesn't want to fix TF2, they said didn't want to deal with the never ending updates necessary needed to implement a proper working anti-cheat. This is a poor excuse considering this is something that every online multiplayer game has to deal with yet they seem to be the only ones unable to deal with this problem.
I’m pretty sure a billion dollar company has the resources to provide their games an effective anti cheat. At least the money to hire people that will. Hell people in the community have tried or are trying to fix it, and the bot hosters impersonate, harass, and dox those who they see as a threat. They do this illegal stuff on Valve’s own game because they currently can get away with it. That’s why taking a stand is important. #FixTF2 #SaveTF2
I thought I'd something recently that might get attention of somebody at Valve. Just a line of reasoning. Why should anyone get invested into Deadlock if this is the kind of support we would have to look forward to? If they manage to catch lightning in a bottle again and Deadlock turns out to be just as fun and engaging as tf2 (a long shot, I know, but if it happened once it can happen again) then it would, in theory reach the same status as tf2 has now. Whether Valve likes it or not, tf2 serves as they're track record for their support if online games. Why would we go for this newest venture if this is what we have to look forward to?
man, today is actually my birthday, and i would love if valve finally fixed tf2, is a game that actually marked me, because at least in my experience, it has one of the best game communities out there, and i truly love this game, so please guys, take this serious, sign in the petition, it takes less than 30 seconds if your internet is good, and also, even if this does not work, i would love to see more whacky guy videos doing wacky things, because, you know, funni. (sorry for some english errors, im brazillian and not the best at it)
With the bots trying to stop #FixTF2 with more bots. All they are doing is reinforcing the point of the movement. Also, is anyone suffering from connection problems? I need to fix it or else I will either freeze for seconds or disconnect due to lost connection.
TF2 Bot Crisis! Did you know that the bots in TF2 were added in Call of Duty, they were added to Call of Duty because Activision wanted their new Call of Duty game to go live and make it better by putting bots onto their servers and lets just say it didn’t quite work out that much so they removed it.
I mean personally I enjoy games where there are experienced and newer players. Yes occasionally it does lead to boring quick game but may times its an enjoyable close battle with funny moments.
while you can probably get more information out of a brick wall than valve it's sure as hell that the issue is not gonna go away if we just sit by idlely, this has been going on for an unacceptable amount of time and we need to keep pressuring them until there are changes that actually get rid of the bots tf2 deserves better than this
I am not sure if this is stupid but what if to play online you had to complete a tutorial, there is a record or an achievement for doing so which verifies its completion. So it would mean you would have to somehow program the bots to complete a tutorial and that also means programming them to rocket jump, double jump as well as deal with the randomly picked maps for that tutorial. Also as the game could verify you by how long you took to complete the tutorials so if you somehow bypassed it and just coded in that it was done there would be no completion time.
Thats a good point about the 2022 #SaveTF2 Last time all we did was call up to the castle, and the king came out onto the balcony and said, "Yes my loyal peasants! I love my Kingdom too!" Then the king just goes back inside, sits on the throne, returns to eating their rotten barbequed lamb shanks, and begins developing it into a new hero shooter because that's the trend to follow amongst kingdoms. Now that we're directly asking Valve to #FixTF2 We're not just going to call up to the balcony. We're demanding an audience in the Throne room, hundreds of thousands of us will all be presenting the hundreds of thousands of bounty posters about the rapscallion MunDee's that are pillaging our fields, we're not going to pay our taxes until we get that audience, we're each going to leave firmly negative negative reviews on the kingdom's steam page, and we're going to make sure the world knows by just how far that our once Revolutionary Kingdom has been neglected into ruin. Please Valve. Please. You were once the greatest innovators on the playing field. It's plainly obvious that Meet you Match was a grasp at following Overwatch's success, but you still made it against the better judgement of your own business model. The spotlight is on you to raise the bar beyond the reach of the malicious Artificial Invaders. So prove it to the video gaming industry just how innovative Valve software is, was and can be. Oh, haha, sorry Brick, just trying to boost engagement... 😥
i was considering installing again recently, because i remembered how fun it was to play games with new people consistently, than i remembered the actual state of the game. i wish valve will hear the public outcry and at least give an explanation of why they're letting the game be murdered like this. its the least they could do..
Valve: we hear you guys. But we cant do anything because it would take 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of time to fix it and we just dont have the time
Also valve: we have enough time and money to take down 2 fanprojects in less that a week, fix a similiar bot crisis on csgo2, and make a whole new hero based mutiplayer game.
The fact that fixing the bot crisis would literally be as simple as adding a damn "are you human" captcha test before entering a match, and Valve has done NOTHING to fix the bot crisis, is completely unforgivable
People say #saveTF2 failed, and while it didn't really amount to any meaningful change to TF2, one thing I don't see mentioned is that we proved that Valve can be pressured into doing things. They aren't immune to our noise. Sure, it'll take a lot more effort and noise to make them do something proper, but they proved they can't ignore everything.
What is life if a man can't even play Caber Knight without getting his head blown off? ...let me rephrase. What is life if a man can't even play Caber Knight without getting his head blown off *by bots*?
We’re at a Point where we protest hard enough we force them to fix it, or they just shut down the game. Cause you know there are some people out there, angry enough that they will take physical action if they continue the silent treatment. I don’t condone it, but some people are at their breaking point.
I have an idea. What about making the bots blind in like a normal low skill player by making any players who have high kill streaks don't able to play for few hours and if someone manages to get in it will get a permanent ban
Me too. but I don't think it's going to work. But on the other hand is better than doing nothing I suppose. #savetf2 and #fixtf2 #UpdateVAC #valve #vac.
TF2 would instantly be improved 100-fold if they just shut down matchmaking once and for all and returned to Community Servers being the default option.
Didn't Quickplay have requirements for servers to be used in Quickplay, basically to prevent servers from straying too far from vanilla TF2? So wouldn't that problem be an imaginary one?
I really hope valve really does DO something this time. Really haven’t played much for the last FOUR YEARS bc of the bots. PS: Sorry but I noticed you sound a lot like jschlat. I mean I’m a jerma fan and I talk like him sometimes so I get it lol
I still cant quite understand why Valve just sits on it's mountain of gold like a dragon. Valve is THE MOST Rich videogame company in the world, I think Gaben has more money than Trump. And yet they are just too greedy to pay 3 dollars and half a cup of coffe to a group of devs that would make you a new anti-cheat in a week or so. But NOOOOOOOOOOOO, we are just a poor indie company! Underdogs of the industry! Poor us! Its a sad truth that Valve fell off. They will never make Half Life 3,they will never fix TF2, they will never make new good game like they used too (Deadlock is going to die in half a year btw) Oh how I wish I could be proven wrong...
Its not theu can't fix tf2 they by all means can because they have the manpower and resources to honest to god not only fix the game but also sue the crap out of the bot hosters. Its that they don't care unless we publicly shame them for it
I've said this a on a few #FixTF2 videos, but I think the core issue is that Valve hans't figured out a way to programmatically differentiate between destructive player bots and the bot farms that farm and trade TF2 items making Valve a lot of money. If they ban the aimbots, the also ban the idle and trade bots. I'm not sure they'll fix it unless there's a financial incentive to do so.
@@eggproductions9683 Bot farms are 80% of tf2s player base, and likely most of it's market place too. If they don't make valve money, nothing from tf2 will.
@@eggproductions9683 Yeah true, nvm. It does make both the game and the trading scene look more popular than it really is though by a wide margin, which probably benefits valve.
![[TF2] Community Server Roulette](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/APKGseqoWdM/mqdefault.jpg)
![[TF2] Community Server Roulette](/img/tr.png)
![[TF2] Heavy's Secretly "Busted" Weapon](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Q6Nh2YUZJeU/mqdefault.jpg)
Don't EVER say valve is incapable of fixing these things. With their revenue from TF2 ALONE, they could hire an entire dev team.
Yea, they’re still getting money to this day
why are they so freaking stubborn man
upwards of 15 million dollars a year, you'd think they could hire a couple people for 50000 who sit and do treadmill work
They just don't care, and it isn't as profitable as their money printers Counter-Strike and DOTA. Really, the issue is that the TF2 community is absolutely glazing Valve instead of getting on their ass for leaving their game in such a state. And what's worse is that the bots aren't just a TF2 problem, they're becoming a problem in Counter-Strike as well. It's like they know you're not gonna just play something else so they just don't give a shit.
Im sure they can fix the ga-
*looks at the sphagetti code*
Pshaw, im delusional! They'll fix it! Im sure!
It's sad that TF2 is likely older than a lot of the people hosting bots on it.
damn
yeah…
Valve hasn't had a significant update to VAC since 2013. This update auto-banned LMAOBox users. Catbot users replaced LMAOBox in 2017 and Valve has done nothing to #FixTF2
Honestly the movement should switch to #FixVAC at this point
#FixTf2
valve boutta add a captcha to tf2
"select all boxes with player gibs"
honestly, that wouldn't be that bad
@@victorjohnson5646agreed, and given the data shown in zesty’s controversial video from weeks ago all valve would have to do is restart the servers and put a captcha before queuing or just right at the title screen. Botters are fucked especially if they gotta now include an ai that can detect a series of images linked by subject. Valve could even customize the selection of images themselves to be tf2 or cs2 themed like a revolving door every 2-3 months. Keeps the AI on its toes and unable to maintain consistent access the botters would likely quit paying for all the work now needed.
@@alexello1189 It's actually not the pictures themselves that detect bots, its the mouse movement. The captcha keeps track of where your mouse moves on the screen. Bots move in precise, unwavering speeds and usually go in a perfect straight line to the picture. A real human would waver a bit, maybe move the mouse idly, and with varying speeds. It is VERY hard to make a bot act truly human, because it can only do so much with programming. Say it's told to do a little loop before choosing a picture. Well, when it does that same loop 15 times, the captcha is gonna catch on and realize its a bot.
@@alexello1189 YES this exactly, it would only be a slight inconvenience for players and would make botting almost impossible
If Valve can't get their shit together and fix CS2 that is also overrun by cheaters, I have little hope for TF2. But we might as well keep trying, maybe something happens. As the saying goes, 99% of gamblers quit just before they win the jackpot!
If fighting is sure to result in victory, then we must fight!
@@skinwalker69420sun tzu said that
Hii guys remember to leave a negative review on all valve games until they fix it 😊
@@UghhhVinyl>spam tf2 with negative reviews
Valve: our sixteen year old game is dying and there’s no reason leaving servers up, brick it.
Fans: why did valve do that?!
@@reno239 They wouldn't, considering that Day of Defeat is still going of all things.
It sucks because some days I'm just like, "Yippee! I can't wait to play Casual TF2!" And then as I'm hopping on I just realize, "Oh yeah, I can't." And then I just play Tekken with a big frown on my face.
try a KOTH harvest or 2fort match, both are rarely filled with bots
@@partisan3353 Yeah, but I miss pushing the cart or capturing multiple points. Those big maps.
@@HighfireGuys2fair, But Try Frontier, I don’t see TOOO many bots, same with the fact frontier players are ACTUALLY COMPETENT and kick bots
The bots have started saying stuff like “FixTF2 sucks!”
lol they scared
@@D3RSM3MOnot really. Valve will do jack shit.
@@D3RSM3MO No, its more so probably rage bait, Valve obviously doesn't care about the cheaters in CS2 too so yeah we're probably screwed.
which is ironic because either way that's free publicity
Hey, it’s free marketing. They’re shooting themselves in the foot
*Valve is like that one Girlfriend/Boyfriend that dumped you out of nowhere.*
Sure they were great and nice years ago, but then they stopped texting you back and then they stopped to hang out with you, so you give them some space and days of silence start to become weeks to become months... and you message them "What's wrong can we talk?" or "Hey are you okay? We don't talk like we used to."
And they come back a day later saying "I will msg about it, give me an hour or 2" and then they don't...
If Valve just doesn't like us anymore, at least tell us in our faces and not... Ghost us all of a sudden. Just say something man... (This comment may or may not been inspired by past experiences... :"/"
Dota 2 stole tf2's partner
that sounds sad, hope you recover from you ex ❤
@succyfish5451 fuckin MISS ME with that "they can't do anything" shit. They are a SEVEN BILLION DOLLAR COMPANY that makes close to TWO MILLION A DAY *JUST* from tf2. Even half of that could change hundreds of lives, yet they make 2M A DAY. You're telling me the REVERED company known for REVILUTIONIZING gaming with games like portal, tf2, Dota, etc is DEFEATED by 12 BASEMENT DWELLING CHILDREN? They can CERTAINLY hire SOME devs. Whether it's a treadmill fix or a permanent one, valve can do something. I have when people say they cant. One laptop shouldn't be the sole weakness to valve, revered gaming legends, still making money from games, as well as steam, valued at 7 BILLION dollars. They are NOT unable to fix the best game the have made, and absolute gaming icon, tf2, they just don't want to.
Was gonna say this lol@@Serafact.
As one of those ghosts, I'd like to step in and give you a bit of crap right now: In my experience, we vanish because _we feel like burdens and don't want to keep dragging down the people we care about._ Especially those of us who are at risk of, uh, how to avoid the YT bots... 'self-unaliving' ourselves. Realizing the likelihood of it happening and just getting it over with instead of dragging it out with our depression and neuroses is our way of avoiding greater heartache. You know, unless you'd rather suddenly wake up to the news of the person you cared about deciding to check out one day instead of just disappearing.
(This comment is _one hundred percent_ inspired by *_current_* experiences. >:|)
LET'S DOOOOO IT!!! -Demoman #FIXTF2 #SAVETF2
"GET DAM BALAOWS"
@@Neoniq41 I DIDNT NEED YA HELP YA KNOW
@@The_Pope_real BAAA
IF YOU WERE HUNTING TROUBLE LAD, YOU FOUND IT
yeah the bots suck man hopefully this'll be over soon, god bless.
I started in December despite everything, and it was not fun at all. Bots everywhere, the only way I could play without dying instantly was through the offline practice mode. It’s fine and all, but it’s still so lonely :(
And the disrespect to Rick May on the day of his passing is absolutely unforgivable
The symbol of fixtf2 should be the red tape recorder since it says...
*"Let's make some noise"*
i wanna share my experience, not just with bots but with the TF2 community aswell
around late 2022 and early 2023 alot of people had said the cheater bot numbers have decreased and they havent been popping up anymore, many people said they have been finding only a hand full of bots every 1 out of 4 games. the community rejoiced and thought the crisis was slowly going down and people were living the dream
however for me and my friends who were living in asia weren't seeing any change. if anything, we only saw more bots
DoesHooter bots, Hotter bots, Astralink bots, Asia bots, sniper gaming bots, racial slur bots, random number or letter bots, and finally Valve bots were absolutely spiking in and around our region. I didn't have the greatest wifi and so trying to play on community servers can be hit or miss alot of the times, Asia and Aus servers are either full or completely empty while Eu and Na servers were simply too laggy for me. i had no escape from casual
i tried to get to the bottom of this to try and find other people whove been experiencing a large influx of bots and figuring out how some people say they havent seen a single bot. i went from forums, discord servers, steam groups and even asking my own friends if they were experiencing this kinda thing. it didn't take long to find a group of people that did agree of seeing large number of bots in and around Asia and Australia, however it also didnt take long for me to be shamed by people apart of this so called "friendly" and "positive" community
when i tried asking people how they weren't seeing any bots the general response ive gotten was "you're just playing at wrong times", "well i haven't seen any", "statistically the bot activity have went down", "you're just lying", "you're over exaggerating the numbers", "bro saw his first cheater bot and thought he saw 10 of them", "there arent any in America", "just play in community servers", so on and on and on. it gets frustrating when people dont believe you when you're screaming at the top of your lungs with proof. i couldn't play scream fotress and smissmess with my friends at all due to the bot problem, i couldn't play during January and February, it never got better and simply worst as it continues through 2023. again i tried to play scream fortress with my friends for old time sakes, we had fun with the new maps and gamesmodes only to be livid with a new type of bot, crash bots. the game was once more unplayable at all
i have given up on tf2, ive sold my hats and deleted the game. recently i tried getting back in only to find no difference, but now its even worse because the bots have somehow gained access once more to Voice chat and text chat. if this protest works then i hope it'll go well for everyone, but i don't have high hopes at all really, if CS2 is also facing a massive cheater problem and valve has yet to fix it than how do you expect tf2 to be treated any better
but anyways, lets see what happens
Haven’t touched casual in a longtime since they added 64bit compatibility
same
Why
@@ziphy_6471 you’re joking right? you have to queue up like 20 times just to get a game that isn’t infested with bots
@@coal1235 I'm asian
@@coal1235 It ain't that serious.
"Yes Brick!!!!" we all say in unison
We know why Valve doesn't want to fix TF2, they said didn't want to deal with the never ending updates necessary needed to implement a proper working anti-cheat. This is a poor excuse considering this is something that every online multiplayer game has to deal with yet they seem to be the only ones unable to deal with this problem.
Worth the shot. Hopefully it doesn't end like the last time.
Already has.
I’m pretty sure a billion dollar company has the resources to provide their games an effective anti cheat. At least the money to hire people that will. Hell people in the community have tried or are trying to fix it, and the bot hosters impersonate, harass, and dox those who they see as a threat. They do this illegal stuff on Valve’s own game because they currently can get away with it. That’s why taking a stand is important.
#FixTF2 #SaveTF2
I deleted my twitter some months ago, but I might have to create a new one because I care about this
dont go back there
I thought I'd something recently that might get attention of somebody at Valve. Just a line of reasoning.
Why should anyone get invested into Deadlock if this is the kind of support we would have to look forward to? If they manage to catch lightning in a bottle again and Deadlock turns out to be just as fun and engaging as tf2 (a long shot, I know, but if it happened once it can happen again) then it would, in theory reach the same status as tf2 has now. Whether Valve likes it or not, tf2 serves as they're track record for their support if online games. Why would we go for this newest venture if this is what we have to look forward to?
We ain't got a thing to lose! #FixTF2
with a much more focused effort with #FIXTF2 compared to the initial #SAVETF2 , i think we may get even farther. we've got nothing to lose.
Here hold this
#FIXTF2
Scratchin mah nutz rn
man, today is actually my birthday, and i would love if valve finally fixed tf2, is a game that actually marked me, because at least in my experience, it has one of the best game communities out there, and i truly love this game, so please guys, take this serious, sign in the petition, it takes less than 30 seconds if your internet is good, and also, even if this does not work, i would love to see more whacky guy videos doing wacky things, because, you know, funni.
(sorry for some english errors, im brazillian and not the best at it)
With the bots trying to stop #FixTF2 with more bots. All they are doing is reinforcing the point of the movement.
Also, is anyone suffering from connection problems? I need to fix it or else I will either freeze for seconds or disconnect due to lost connection.
TF2 Bot Crisis! Did you know that the bots in TF2 were added in Call of Duty, they were added to Call of Duty because Activision wanted their new Call of Duty game to go live and make it better by putting bots onto their servers and lets just say it didn’t quite work out that much so they removed it.
imagine a multi billion dollar company losing against these losers who host bots in their basements.
The worse part is that in reality they can sue the fuck out of the bot hosters for damages
@@ZTLGsmashultimate436its not that hard to find bot hoster’s steam account and their ip
@@ZTLGsmashultimate436 no they can't. You're assuming the bot hosters are in America with them. Which most of them are not.
They're not really losing , the tens of thousands of bots are making them money
Sound its a Mind Creation
Even if the bot crisis is going to be over, Casual gamemode is still flawed and needs some kind of major overhaul towards matchmaking.
#FixTF2
I mean personally I enjoy games where there are experienced and newer players. Yes occasionally it does lead to boring quick game but may times its an enjoyable close battle with funny moments.
while you can probably get more information out of a brick wall than valve it's sure as hell that the issue is not gonna go away if we just sit by idlely, this has been going on for an unacceptable amount of time and we need to keep pressuring them until there are changes that actually get rid of the bots
tf2 deserves better than this
We wont give up so easily gentelmen. We are merceneries we have the resources and the will to make the hours and love we put into this game count.
I think tf2 might be done like
Valve doesn't care and probably won't even though i grew up and love this game
Maybe, but lets try it
@damsen978 not really half of it if it is the most accesible option. Plus the comunity browser is nor user friendly
@damsen978casual is tf2 though without it it's not the same
I've said it before, but it feels like they're low key deliberately ignoring tf2 in order to hype up their overwatch rip-off deadlock.
I am not sure if this is stupid but what if to play online you had to complete a tutorial, there is a record or an achievement for doing so which verifies its completion.
So it would mean you would have to somehow program the bots to complete a tutorial and that also means programming them to rocket jump, double jump as well as deal with the randomly picked maps for that tutorial.
Also as the game could verify you by how long you took to complete the tutorials so if you somehow bypassed it and just coded in that it was done there would be no completion time.
#savetf2
Wake the fuck up samurai we got a TF2 to fix #FixTF2
#FixTF2 #SaveTF2
we aint giving up yet
#FixTf2
thank you brick for liking my comment ,my day just got better 🙏
If we fail once, we try again, if we fail again we try again, if we fail again we continue until Valve fixes this game #FixTF2
We have to pretend the videos are dota or counterstrike otherwise they won’t see it as much
Thats a good point about the 2022 #SaveTF2
Last time all we did was call up to the castle, and the king came out onto the balcony and said, "Yes my loyal peasants! I love my Kingdom too!" Then the king just goes back inside, sits on the throne, returns to eating their rotten barbequed lamb shanks, and begins developing it into a new hero shooter because that's the trend to follow amongst kingdoms.
Now that we're directly asking Valve to #FixTF2
We're not just going to call up to the balcony. We're demanding an audience in the Throne room, hundreds of thousands of us will all be presenting the hundreds of thousands of bounty posters about the rapscallion MunDee's that are pillaging our fields, we're not going to pay our taxes until we get that audience, we're each going to leave firmly negative negative reviews on the kingdom's steam page, and we're going to make sure the world knows by just how far that our once Revolutionary Kingdom has been neglected into ruin.
Please Valve. Please. You were once the greatest innovators on the playing field. It's plainly obvious that Meet you Match was a grasp at following Overwatch's success, but you still made it against the better judgement of your own business model. The spotlight is on you to raise the bar beyond the reach of the malicious Artificial Invaders. So prove it to the video gaming industry just how innovative Valve software is, was and can be.
Oh, haha, sorry Brick, just trying to boost engagement... 😥
Extreme solution is adding a classlimit of 2 snipers, 2 Heavies per team this would allow fast kicks and less cheaters
My 3rd favorite brick is talking about this situation? Nice.
whos the first and second?
@@partisan3353 My and Balls
@@Bbranthony i walked right into that one
The brickiest brick always gets me bricked
1:44 if that Player “Deadasf” was a bot then wow. I think i saw him in my match and never thought of a bot
"Scout TF2 talking about the situation of his game for 5:50 minutes"
i was considering installing again recently, because i remembered how fun it was to play games with new people consistently, than i remembered the actual state of the game. i wish valve will hear the public outcry and at least give an explanation of why they're letting the game be murdered like this. its the least they could do..
Valve: we hear you guys. But we cant do anything because it would take 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of time to fix it and we just dont have the time
Also valve: we have enough time and money to take down 2 fanprojects in less that a week, fix a similiar bot crisis on csgo2, and make a whole new hero based mutiplayer game.
The fact that fixing the bot crisis would literally be as simple as adding a damn "are you human" captcha test before entering a match, and Valve has done NOTHING to fix the bot crisis, is completely unforgivable
I didn't really believe in savetf2, but I believe in #fixtf2.
Individually we beg, together we bargain
Thanks for making this video! #FixTF2 #SaveTF2
Just boosting this video
Lets make some noise #fixtf2
all we need is them plugging cs2 vac into tf2 somehow and it should fix most problems (I fucking hope)
Tomorrow gonna be crazy
we got this in the bag
great video
So... Did we all *lose?* Cuz if we did then...
*I TOLD YOU SO!* But you people were just too *stubborn* to accept it!
Let's get it fixed, gentlemen.
#FixTF2 why not give it another shot
Got me bricked up
Anyone think its crazy that the pyro update was almost half the games life ago
We should write some tweet templates for Valves response here.
I hope this FixTF2 works.
#FixTF2
Are those spinning heavy bots faster than regular heavy movement?
"It's time to do some coat tail riding, oh well"
FixTF2 is tomorrow
For some reason, this video sound like Scout himself talking about #FixTF2
People say #saveTF2 failed, and while it didn't really amount to any meaningful change to TF2, one thing I don't see mentioned is that we proved that Valve can be pressured into doing things. They aren't immune to our noise. Sure, it'll take a lot more effort and noise to make them do something proper, but they proved they can't ignore everything.
It proved that the community can actually get together and do something about it
What is life if a man can't even play Caber Knight without getting his head blown off?
...let me rephrase. What is life if a man can't even play Caber Knight without getting his head blown off *by bots*?
Remember tomorrow is the day that we’re going to do everything we can to get valve’s attention
jine 3rd has started 25 minutes ago
IT HAS BEGUN
valve should let poeple register for internship at valve exclusively to work on tf2
4:43 woag
NOISE
We’re at a Point where we protest hard enough we force them to fix it, or they just shut down the game. Cause you know there are some people out there, angry enough that they will take physical action if they continue the silent treatment. I don’t condone it, but some people are at their breaking point.
breaking point ??? to a video game ?? they need to get a life LOL
@@peopleperson You can laugh and jeer all you want. People have killed for less.
#Fixtf2 #Savetf2 Lets make history today boys
Valve, pls fix -Unknown guy
#SaveTF2 #FixTF2
someone contact the fbi regarding bots using cheese pizza decals, valve can ignore us but not ignore being summoned to court
100,000 signatures 🎉
Let’s give this a whirl
Come on Valve !
You're a millionaire company against some Losers on his fathers basement !
(not kidding all bot hosters cheaters are like that)
imagine not hiring a team to do work for you if you don't want to touch tf2's code with a 10 ft stick
I have an idea. What about making the bots blind in like a normal low skill player by making any players who have high kill streaks don't able to play for few hours and if someone manages to get in it will get a permanent ban
Tf2 has hit Mostly negative reviews with a whooping 34%, we can do this #FixTf2
I hope this works
Me too. but I don't think it's going to work. But on the other hand is better than doing nothing I suppose. #savetf2 and #fixtf2 #UpdateVAC #valve #vac.
we have so much to gain from this and nothing to loose so let's to our beased and se if this sprouts fruit.the bot problem fixing fruit
WE WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN TF2!!!!! #FixTF2
I'm commenting for the algorithm 🔥🗣️ #FixTF2
Valve not going to fix the game we need to make a mod that get rid of all the bots
TF2 would instantly be improved 100-fold if they just shut down matchmaking once and for all and returned to Community Servers being the default option.
No, the abscence of map rotation, stupid plugins that make the game worse and strict rule on some of the servers (they hate fun) are a bullshit
Didn't Quickplay have requirements for servers to be used in Quickplay, basically to prevent servers from straying too far from vanilla TF2? So wouldn't that problem be an imaginary one?
Bait used to be believable
@@theangrypotato2.031 Very true.
I really hope valve really does DO something this time. Really haven’t played much for the last FOUR YEARS bc of the bots.
PS: Sorry but I noticed you sound a lot like jschlat. I mean I’m a jerma fan and I talk like him sometimes so I get it lol
I still cant quite understand why Valve just sits on it's mountain of gold like a dragon. Valve is THE MOST Rich videogame company in the world, I think Gaben has more money than Trump. And yet they are just too greedy to pay 3 dollars and half a cup of coffe to a group of devs that would make you a new anti-cheat in a week or so. But NOOOOOOOOOOOO, we are just a poor indie company! Underdogs of the industry! Poor us!
Its a sad truth that Valve fell off. They will never make Half Life 3,they will never fix TF2, they will never make new good game like they used too (Deadlock is going to die in half a year btw)
Oh how I wish I could be proven wrong...
2 more years and TF2 fans are legal 😜
Its not theu can't fix tf2 they by all means can because they have the manpower and resources to honest to god not only fix the game but also sue the crap out of the bot hosters.
Its that they don't care unless we publicly shame them for it
ALL BOTS CHEATERS BANNED
I've said this a on a few #FixTF2 videos, but I think the core issue is that Valve hans't figured out a way to programmatically differentiate between destructive player bots and the bot farms that farm and trade TF2 items making Valve a lot of money. If they ban the aimbots, the also ban the idle and trade bots. I'm not sure they'll fix it unless there's a financial incentive to do so.
Bot farms dont make valve money
@@eggproductions9683 Idle bots obtain and craft items that are then traded under the Steam marketplace. Every transaction generates a fee from Valve.
@@eggproductions9683 Bot farms are 80% of tf2s player base, and likely most of it's market place too. If they don't make valve money, nothing from tf2 will.
@@fireking6308 except bot farmers circumvent marketplace tax by selling on 3rd party websites.
@@eggproductions9683 Yeah true, nvm. It does make both the game and the trading scene look more popular than it really is though by a wide margin, which probably benefits valve.
LET'S GOOOOOOO !!!
Valve needs to fix their game
Time to break down valve’s income and get it in the red
i just saw you in doublecross
if valve somewhat dpesnt care they should just hire a dev team who does while they work on other shti