Went to AIT with all these people. The first thing I said was "Hey, that's Mines!" Shout out to all of B Co. 169, especially SSG Daniels and SSG Williams, my instructors. Class 14-18
For anyone who sees this in 2024 I am a 12Y and I will say this MOS is pretty great I would say it’s better than 35G you get more on the civilian side and the job is better in the army. 35G use imagery to identify certain things and do not make maps. They are strictly intelligence. 12Y make maps using given data and use the data to make multiple types of products that a commander may need.
I know the difference well because I have worked along side 35G and have even gotten to do their job a couple of times and I will say I prefer doing 12Y work 100/100 times lol
Can you tell me about Geospatial and Technical Engeneer in USA Army? I have been in the Brazilian army for 11 years in this specialty. work with everything related to cartography and surveying. And when we are as surveyors, we have hard work hours and are away from our families. But you know... That's Life. I'm currently thinking about getting my green card, moving to the US and maybe joining the USA Army. So it would be very interesting to hear your feedback on routine, career, salary and quality of life.
@@stevenmajicmike I’m a different MOS, but went to the same schoolhouse/lived in the same barracks as 12Y. I don’t know how the day to day life is in garrison for them, but they get put in primarily division level offices or military intelligence brigades from what my old friends have told me. Job comes with TS clearance, and you will give briefs to people much higher ranking than yourself. Overall the people I went to school with who had this MOS are happy with their choice
Hogwash. It is an engineering school! Quit trying to take Geos out of USACE! That's where we belong. Belvoir is a toxic bath for brainwashing. You will confuse the Geos.
12Y Geospatial Engineer delivers information about the terrain; the soil, vegetation, ground slope, surface drainage, man-made features, and what their effects are. 35G Imagery Analyst delivers information about what is going on in the image. Specifically having to do with human activity. So a 12Y and 35G can look at the same image and a 12Y would report “you can drive though this area” whereas a 35G would report “that vehicle moved into that spot today”
@@TukaMarz thank you for this explanation! But sadly my dream came to an end when I was in a car accident and I got a herniated disc b/c of it. Now my dream of going to the US Military has come to an end. (I’m pissed)
The primary difference is that the 12Y analyzes Geospatial data in reference to the terrain and its effects on friendly and enemy forces. 12Ys focus is largely on geographical effects as well as the construction of Maps. The 35Gs focus is largely on Enemy disposition, fighting positions, and obstacles to the friendly force.
I was a 12Y and now am a GIS analyst at the county. 35G will not get you trained with ESRI products and large datasets. I worked side by side with 35G at my unit and if I had to do it again I would stick with 12Y. If your into data and research 12Y is the go. If your into intel, recon and surveillance, I would go 35G. Look at getting the 12Y cert like a GIS certificate, it’s much more transferable to civilian. I would take advantage of the model builder portions of the course because it’s probably the closest you will get to python training there. I went in 2010 when NGA gave out college level diplomas for it; I don’t think that’s the case anymore but I promise you it’s worth a lot out here in the civilian world. KEEP ALL DOCUMENTATION OF CLASSES AND CERTIFICATES RELATED TO YOUR JOB. Buzzword for you all right now would be Army Corp. of Engineers. Good luck!
Those are two different skills and it would be very difficult to get a person from zero to proficient with both of those skill sets in a short period of time. That's why they are to mos's and not one.
It is for I like looking at maps and terrain, analyzing what routes we could take without getting ambushed or vehicle and equipment destroyed and whatnot.
@@testpython3575like 80% of the people took this job because it was the most fobit job out there and hated it lol. Only true geogeeks understand how valuable this MOS is!
Went to AIT with all these people. The first thing I said was "Hey, that's Mines!" Shout out to all of B Co. 169, especially SSG Daniels and SSG Williams, my instructors. Class 14-18
How is this MOS ?
@Nick Shannon how's the mos ? Pros and cons ? And how was ait?
John 3:16-For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life❤️✝️
For anyone who sees this in 2024 I am a 12Y and I will say this MOS is pretty great I would say it’s better than 35G you get more on the civilian side and the job is better in the army. 35G use imagery to identify certain things and do not make maps. They are strictly intelligence. 12Y make maps using given data and use the data to make multiple types of products that a commander may need.
I know the difference well because I have worked along side 35G and have even gotten to do their job a couple of times and I will say I prefer doing 12Y work 100/100 times lol
Can you tell me about Geospatial and Technical Engeneer in USA Army?
I have been in the Brazilian army for 11 years in this specialty. work with everything related to cartography and surveying. And when we are as surveyors, we have hard work hours and are away from our families. But you know... That's Life.
I'm currently thinking about getting my green card, moving to the US and maybe joining the USA Army.
So it would be very interesting to hear your feedback on routine, career, salary and quality of life.
I can't wait. Leaving for basic soon then onto AIT for this.
How you liking this so far ?
Bro?
@SwissKage how's the mos ? Pros and cons ? How was the ait ?
Are you still enlisted?
Lol I went to AIT with all of these people shout out Bravo 169
What is this job like ?
@Jordan Ludwig how's the mos? What are the pros and cons? How's the ait?
@@stevenmajicmike I’m a different MOS, but went to the same schoolhouse/lived in the same barracks as 12Y. I don’t know how the day to day life is in garrison for them, but they get put in primarily division level offices or military intelligence brigades from what my old friends have told me. Job comes with TS clearance, and you will give briefs to people much higher ranking than yourself. Overall the people I went to school with who had this MOS are happy with their choice
The AIT experience is most likely much different from when I went, considering that was almost 5 years ago now
John 3:16-For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life❤️✝️
This school needs to be sent back to Fort Bevoir at the National Geospatial College. It has no business at Fort Leonard Wood.
Hogwash. It is an engineering school! Quit trying to take Geos out of USACE! That's where we belong. Belvoir is a toxic bath for brainwashing. You will confuse the Geos.
True, when it was there you got a college degree upon graduation. But at Leonard Wood you just get some college credits.
@@swazaaa you leave and get thrown into a world that has nothing to do with what you were taught.
@@Flipflopskipskop what do you mean?
GIS: Get It Surveyed
John 3:16-For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life❤️✝️
What’s the difference between 12Y and 35G?
12Y Geospatial Engineer delivers information about the terrain; the soil, vegetation, ground slope, surface drainage, man-made features, and what their effects are.
35G Imagery Analyst delivers information about what is going on in the image. Specifically having to do with human activity.
So a 12Y and 35G can look at the same image and a 12Y would report “you can drive though this area” whereas a 35G would report “that vehicle moved into that spot today”
@@TukaMarz thank you for this explanation! But sadly my dream came to an end when I was in a car accident and I got a herniated disc b/c of it. Now my dream of going to the US Military has come to an end. (I’m pissed)
@@Carthodon thank you!
@@TukaMarz
Thank you so much. Your reply’s helped me out a year later
What's the difference between 35G and 12Y. What job fits better for the civilian side? I have a BS in Environmental Science
The primary difference is that the 12Y analyzes Geospatial data in reference to the terrain and its effects on friendly and enemy forces. 12Ys focus is largely on geographical effects as well as the construction of Maps. The 35Gs focus is largely on Enemy disposition, fighting positions, and obstacles to the friendly force.
I was a 12Y and now am a GIS analyst at the county. 35G will not get you trained with ESRI products and large datasets. I worked side by side with 35G at my unit and if I had to do it again I would stick with 12Y. If your into data and research 12Y is the go. If your into intel, recon and surveillance, I would go 35G. Look at getting the 12Y cert like a GIS certificate, it’s much more transferable to civilian. I would take advantage of the model builder portions of the course because it’s probably the closest you will get to python training there. I went in 2010 when NGA gave out college level diplomas for it; I don’t think that’s the case anymore but I promise you it’s worth a lot out here in the civilian world. KEEP ALL DOCUMENTATION OF CLASSES AND CERTIFICATES RELATED TO YOUR JOB. Buzzword for you all right now would be Army Corp. of Engineers. Good luck!
Anyone that's done this AIT, how was it? I'm thinking about going 12Y
Do you receive permanent party privileges after 9 weeks?
@@alexgambrell6799 no lmao
Do it for the job and experience, not for AIT. (AIT sucked)
Flashback to AIT lol. Too bad it doesn't show any real world footage
How you like this MOS
@Zachary Rec how's the mos ? Pros and cons? And how's the ait?
@@stevenmajicmikeait is probably still death by powerpoint. super boring, real world stuff is exciting.
Does this MOS actually come with a TS
yes
If you don't get accepted a TS the army will switch your mos to one that doesn't require a clearence.
❤ John 3:16-For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life❤️✝️
JUST COMBINE WITH 35G ALREADY DAMIT CURSE YOUR MONEY GAME YOU HAVE GOING ON!!!
?
Never gonna happen
That would make it a year long AIT, too much cost of Army.
Those are two different skills and it would be very difficult to get a person from zero to proficient with both of those skill sets in a short period of time. That's why they are to mos's and not one.
Sounds boring
It is.
pretty fun stuff ngl
It is for I like looking at maps and terrain, analyzing what routes we could take without getting ambushed or vehicle and equipment destroyed and whatnot.
@@testpython3575like 80% of the people took this job because it was the most fobit job out there and hated it lol. Only true geogeeks understand how valuable this MOS is!