BOMB THREAT onboard United Flight | Message Written in the Lavatory!
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"Are you gonna need any emergency assistance on the ground?"
"I hope not"
Never a truer word was spoken.
I also took note of the excellent display of urgency in his response to "You said you wanted to return to O'Hare?":
"Yup, IMMEDIATELY if we could, please."
No we'll just taxi up to the gate around 1000s more people on the very unlikely guess there is a bomb onboard....
I don't believe the ATC was thinking, I believe he was on autopilot. When they talk about complacency this is exactly it.
So why divert then if they don’t need assistance.
@@EdOeuna because they received a bomb threat
@@BeachNanny - it wasn’t credible. Clearly, if the captain didn’t evacuate the aircraft on landing then he’s happy to have himself and his pax sitting in a bomb. But there wasn’t a bomb, just an over-reaction.
ATC: Fuel in minutes?
PIC: (zero hesitation) 134 minutes
ATC: (damn. that was fast) In Pounds?
PIC: (even faster) 13,400 pounds.
ATC: (he's good. dare I ask for it in hogsheads?...)
PIC: Before you ask. 32.
He's done this before...
@@eh42 Naturally, I had to check your work and, son of a gun, you got it right. Well done!
I *think* Juan Brown said that a good rough estimate is to take your fuel, drop the two end zeros and that will get you the minutes.
@@LT_AndyTyler Probably exactly what the pilot did. In lbs of course.
"Well, I hope not." Most underrated statement of the week
I love the honesty of the pilot when asked if he's going to need emergency assistance on the ground
"I hope not"
I imagine they'd need to get everyone off the plane, while detaining them all.
Search everyone and their luggage. Maybe some device could be ingested?
So that's all different than a normal disembarking from a plane
Plus, those innocent people will probably need to get on another plane and retrieve their luggage
A former WGN radio show producer on this flight called into the station and was interviewed on the air by her old boss. She said the plane wound up in a remote part of O'Hare where everyone deplaned, then directed to sit on an adjacent grassy area for a few hours. In that time, passengers began looking at each other, wondering which one wrote the message, as if this were a game of Clue.
Was his name Dick Thornburg?
Colonel Mustard, in the lavatory, with a grease pen
Hercule Poirot to the rescue.
@@oldfredbearyou sir win the internet today
The pilot seems incredibly chipper about the entire thing! This clearly isn't his first rodeo.
Sounded more tense but determined, to me.
I was listening to them when they were on the ground and it he was a nice guy patently waiting for 2 hours before getting off the plane… just asked for updates every so often.
@@FishFind3000 2 hours? In a plane under bomb threat? eF that shit. Get the cops ready to corral all people on board and EVERYBODY out and isolated and interviewed to see who wrote that funny message.
Plot twist: he was the one who wrote the threat.
He sounded pretty nervous to me after a while which is understandable.
I am guessing that everyone on the plane gets to talk to the FBI, and gets a thorough search.......
CAVITY SEARCHES FOR EVERYONE!!!
Somebody forgot their phone at O'Hare.
lol!
That's what I thought, or maybe regreted leaving the wifey behind
People doing these kinds of "jokes" are freaking brainless. They make hundreds of people be late to their destination , somebody onboard could have a heart attack when they're briefed about the reason of the return and obviously they will probably get banned for life to fly with that company and maybe even face some prosecution.
If they can trace down the culprit, the FAA/TSA/Homeland Security needs to ban from all flights and maybe even all trains and buses. Do not tag this to the company.
Also they're adding a small but non-zero risk to everyone involved. Landing heavier than planned, pilots must be under a bit of extra stress, complicating ATC's workload, etc.: all those things slightly decrease safety margins.
I'll bet the person will claim a mental health crisis made him or her do it. It's the get out of jail free card of the 2020s
Impossible to track who did it. They should install security cams onboard all planes
@@bardo0007 how can it be so hard? Obviously if the plane just took off few passengers could have gone to the toilet. Let's say 3 passengers gone , and the 4th one alarmed the crew , so all 4 of them are suspects. Stewardess or any of the first rows passengers would remember their faces. Crew or police would check them who has a marker on them , than take them writing samples and the one who has the best matching writing style is the one who did it.
The one thing I love about United - they still offer the cockpit ATC channel to passengers, through both the old skool armrest tuners in older planes AND through the newer video screens. This exchange would have been simultaneously exciting and absolutely terrifying, riveting stuff! I kinda wish I was onboard to hear it in realtime.
Actually, that makes me wonder: in the event of an emergency on a United flight, would I actually hear the entire exchange, or is there some mechanism to mute the ATC channel at the pilots' discretion and/or when squawking 7700?
That reminds me of JetBlue 292 where until some point the passengers were watching their own emergency on the news broadcast
There has to be a mute option because that feature would be a blessing to potential hijakers who need live updates on the pilot to tower communications...
@@nicojbp That seems like a comically unlikely edge case
You WANT to be on a plane with a bomb threat. How boring is your life
@@tdj5245 Most features on planes were written with blood out of scenarios nobody thought would happen. But sure it is comical I guess
My man just needed to keep the lavatory open during the flight so he could drop his bomb and it got completely misconstrued...
There you go. No matter how you report the fuel they'll want the other way. Even if they ask for one way they'll flip it and want the other.
"best speed forward" thank you i almost put it in reverse XD
While we’re on the subject, check out BA158 BDA-LHR last night on the 5th
That pilot had his weaties for breakfast. He was locked in. 😂
"Maintain your best speed forward"
"Forward, you say?"
Beats being told to go best speed backwards.
@@jyggalag169 Tokyo drift, A320 edition
😆
"I was hoping to side slip my way in"
“The passengers get very concerned if you try to fly the plane backwards” - Kennedy Steve (if he were still working)
Thanks for adding a date stamp for the incidents!
Fuel in minute pounds per square yard please
ATC: “Say people on board “
PIC: “136 souls and one soulless “
one ginger
😂😂😂
Very professionally handled by all involved.
Minutes *and* pounds today!
Minutes so they know how long they have to keep the aircraft in the air if they have to, and pounds for the emergency crews on the ground so they can anticipate that amount of potential fuel spillage.
@@sakumisanincredibly important to ask a just departed airplane how much fuel in minutes they have remaining.
100 pound per minute
100 pounds per minute! How convenient!
Are you going to cover the bomb threats that happened at Bermuda, Victor?
How long did the stairs take?
This is why I want to fly cargo. Pax cause more delays than anything.
you get paid for block time, delays means you get paid still
Someone has got to come up with a standard of fuel in time vs fuel in pounds. For my sanity, if nothing else.
The reason airlines buy new planes is to get more minutes from less pounds.
Both are important for different reasons. ATC wants to know time so they know how long they have to get the plane on the ground and ARFF wants to know pounds so they properly plan their response if there's a fire or crash.
Different aircraft have different pounds to minutes and weather and other factors can also factor in so there's no way to standardize it.
@@tallman11282 oh I understand that, but then it should be industry standard to provide both in order to be able to train a process for the pilot, so that it happens by automatic instead of risking to increase workload.
@@PiskeyFaeri ATC is trained to ask these questions, not sure if pilots are trained to give them. The only thing is I would have combined 3 of those transmissions into one, fuel in minutes & weight and souls onboard.
@@KristineeeCA agreed, train pilots to give full answer and atc to actually listen to it. Drives me bonkers when atc asks about fuel like three separate times, lol.
Plot twist, pax was just trying to be polite and warn the next person to use the lav about the bomb they left from the bad PF Changs bowl in terminal c.
Was ATC giving a quiz?
Fuel in minutes?
Ok, now, in pounds?
Both are important for different reasons. ATC wants to know time so they know how long they have to get the plane on the ground and ARFF wants to know pounds so they properly plan their response if there's a fire or crash.
Can we get that in ounces please
Now give it to us in bushels per meter while flying upside down
And fuel status in Pints per Parsec while doing a barrel roll.
@@tallman11282 You're fun at parties, aren't you?
Are procedures different for low probability/low credibility bomb threats or is it always taken equally seriously?
That’s a long day for everyone
A buh? No not a buh, a bomb… reminds me of airplane the movie.
I would imagine they could have a handwriting expert (though I'm not big on experts) recognise patterns if they actually ask everyone for a sample despite the perp disguising their sample, which they won't do very probably.
Also how about a camera each outside the doors logging who went in. The previous visitor before the report would surely have mentioned it too, language barrier or no.
Handwriting analysis is pseudoscience that is inadmissible in court. Real life isn't like TV crime dramas.
Wait is the date wrong? I can't find anything from April, but I found articles and news segments of what sounds to be the incident from February.
Date is correct
@@VASAviation Yeah, found another source of it too now. Weird to see that same airline, same diverted airport, with both threats done with a note left in bathroom.. Just few months apart. Same perpetrator or a copycat?
Also weird that this one got pretty much no news coverage from what I could see, all videos were of the February incident.
@@eerolz8758 Interesting - "same airline, same diverted airport," - I noticed this also. Back in the day, seeing this, I would have submitted a "Heads up!" report, to expect another bomb incident (real, or again fake) with a "secondary" (actually, the primary) terror event coordinated based upon the response patterns found in these trial runs.
@@VASAviation Yes, I saw references to both events. (See also my note below replying to @eerolz8758 , about why IMO this is being repeated.)
I guess, they actually wanted to write, "There's a bum on this plane".
This seems to keep happening. Is there no reliable way to prove who could have left the message?
I mean. It's 2024. There's camears literally everywhere
@@JoshuaCasey NOT inside most commercial airliners - and they dont record, for now (flight deck cameras that show the forward galley for eg.)
Interview the people sitting near the lavatory, and the FAs, for their recollection of who used it. Especially since few people would have had the opportunity, and one of those was the person that reported it. I wouldn't be surprised if they got a pretty quick confession too. The refrain from law enforcement is always the same: confess now, or this will end up a whole lot worse for you. There's a reddit article where passengers described their experience on this flight: everyone being detained after landing, and one person being identified by eye witnesses and arrested.
can’t be hard to find out who did it… if they have cameras facing the bathroom and probably less than 15 people using the bathroom
took his time to mention the bomb
Could I have the fuel remaining in minutes?
Could I have the fuel remaining in pounds?
Could I have the fuel remaining in gallons?
Could I have the fuel remaining in liters?
Could I have the fuel remaining in kilos?
FBI cavity search team... ACTIVATED LOL!
Airbus 320
Well, that's no good
Don’t these people know there are cameras on board airplanes these days.
No, there typically aren’t any cameras around the cabin. The only cameras there are are near the cockpit entrance
@@fliqzedgar There are cameras along the aisle on some airlines
United 265: There's message on the aft lavatory mirror bomb onboard.
ATC: Please state fuel in kilograms, minutes, and qualoos. State number of persons on board by age, sex, race, and favorite lacrosse team. And do you want to return to O'Hare, or die in midair?
Are you sure this should be on UA-cam? Could give ideas...
As cool as cucumber
SMH FAA 2024
United Flight #265 to #Nashville then to #EWR #Newark...NYC
Who was arrested? 1 person? A cell- multiple people? I'm an Ex Flight Attendant ✈️
This flight was headed to Washington DCA
@VASAviation One m
ore thing...a possible terrorist test....dry run? Been 23 years..wide open borders..New ids new names..unvetted.
@VASAviationI'm bringing a lot of people to you....eyes on...God Bless Gia Houston Texas ❤😊
No ATC experience is showing:
ATC "...maintain your best speed forward."; As opposed to "your best speed rearward"? That might be applicable for a helicopter, but I don't think American flies those... The crew was not nearly as excited as ATC, in my opinion.
This is United not American. And anyways best speed forwards simply means as fast as you can comfortably go
As opposed to "descent speed", maybe?
Nope, as opposed to best vertical speed or descent rate being they are in a descent. Nothing to do with inexperience on the controllers part. I suspect the same cannot be said for this comment...
United is in the title of the video, and how many times was United 265 both stated and captioned throughout the vid.....
"Mayday Mayday Mayday"
Within the industry, we are trying to get pilots to say this when there is an emergency.
Only the US that has this problem. Everywhere else in the world Pan Pan and Mayday have been the norm for years.
@@jamesbartholomew1481 We are working on that.
Who’s “we” in this industry?
@@knight2386 ICAO - the governing body of standarization
@@knight2386 You. In your cubicle in Olgino, Yevgeny Sergeyevich~
They really need to get rid of the bathroom mirrors.
It was written by a Chicago resident. The message had numerous typos and the grammar was just horrible. It was also written in crayon.
they could just flush the bomb
into the lav hold tank - thats inside the pressure vessel? WOW
@@ghostrider-be9ek whoosh......
@@oldfredbear no, there was no /s /sarcasm tag =
@@ghostrider-be9ek Poe's law strikes again I guess.
@@oldfredbear no, clearly the non-charade effect is in play here
Pucker factor for the pilot was dialed up to an 11 there.
lolz 😆
The situation was handled well, but I absolutely can’t stand pilots who talk like this on frequency. “On the heading” “for UAL265”, etc. Just unprofessional
Don’t they have SOPs for this?
Like what? Ditch the plane in a body of water to extinguish the fuse of a bomb that isn’t likely to exist?
Yes, there will be a checklist. It will likely lead to evacuating the aircraft once landed because you don’t want the bomb to go off whilst you’re just sitting there like a lemon. I’d also expect some input from the company too, because they’ll deal with such threats all the time and know if this one is real of a hoax. I’m actually surprised that the pilots returned because a written note doesn’t mean much and the pilots didn’t exactly act in haste either.
I meant for ATC. Sorry I wasn’t clear. :)
Surely the airline has more resilient procedures than just allowing for a diversion without any analysis of the threat. The chances of a really threat are slim to none because of aviation security, so it being a credible threat is virtually zero.
At some point someone will make it happen, then what? Every threat must be taken seriously otherwise it could end badly.
@@TheWabbit - the response was very unprofessional, from the airlines point of view. Was the threat assessed at all? Was it determined to be credible? Someone writing “bomb” on a mirror isn’t credible at all, and seems to show an almost naive response / plan from the airline.
@EdOeuna I doubt anyone would want to make a guess if it was a credible threat or not. We both know it's highly unlikely but it only takes one time.
I certainly wouldn't want to make that guess no matter what position I held at the airline ( I'm not associated with any airline )whether it was pilot through the CEO.
If something were to happen you'd never work again if you weren't on the plane.
@@TheWabbit - the response to bomb on board needs to be far more well thought out. Clearly things would be different if a device was actually found, but a written note isn’t proof of anything, and to take action so quickly makes it appear that their response system isn’t well developed or thought out.
@EdOeuna I doubt a plane could be checked out and every little space searched for a bomb while in the air and in the less than two hour flight. But that's my opinion, you have yours I doubt we'll ever agree, good evening.
Airprot
Close! It’s spelled airport
In the entire history of the human race has there ever been a "bomb threat" "called in" where there has ever been an actual bomb. Never. Ever. Not once. Again, ever in the history of humanity. That's why the 1st officer is such a cool customer.
The IRA called in bomb threats frequently. Sometimes the calls were made to direct the crowd towards a second bomb.
Is this a Scam channel ??
no?
No bud to receive radio transmissions is public domain but to interfere is a felony.
@@-strauss1560what is that supposed to mean
@daveboon5992 Of course if it was, do you think they would answer in the affirmative?
No, it's an ATC replay channel