2020 R1M... The Most Powerful Yamaha R1 we have ever dyno tested AFTER these mods....
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- An ECU flash on this Yamaha R1M proves that factory ECU motorcycles are JUNK. Can you believe the restrictions on this elite motorcycle?
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its crazy how restricted bikes are now a days. Back in the day it was almost unheard of to get 10whp out of a bike unless you open the motor up. Now a simple flash to get rid of restrictions is 30-75whp. Thats crazy!
Actually you’d get a pretty good bump with just an exhaust and jetting because the factory exhaust didn’t flow great and the jetting matched the exhaust flow. I remember seeing 10+ with just an exhaust and jetting on a 2002 Kawasaki zx9r
Bikes today are more powerful than they were back in the day
It's always been that way.
A number of bikes from 20+years ago could jump over 20hp with a tuned exhaust, carb jetting and airbox mods.
On a bike with 85+hp the increases could be huge.
@@RadDadisRad 10hp from a full exhaust and tuning isn't the same as a click of a button to to gain 30+ with no other mods.
It's actually pretty disgusting how much these bikes are hobbled.
I think the crossplane R1's sound amazing, like a V4R, some of the best sounding bikes out there.
Naw the V4R sounds more like a V Twin than a V4. The Aprilia sounds more like the R1
Aprilia sounds better than the R1 BUT they both are beautiful noise makers. V4S and V4R sounds like v-twins for sure.
@@RadDadisRad lol we agree to disagree my good friend. I think the R1 sounds better than the Aprilia.
@@RadDadisRad Meh. Aprilia doesn't sound good at all.
The R1 sounds way better. Also the V4R sounds like a bike with lose nut bolts 🔩.
V4r sounds awful.
R1 is sweet.
This is my bike and I will have my UA-cam video uploaded when I get home so yall can get a little more explanation of the situation and who the other company was.
Keep us posted
Was it brentuned? With that flasher
The flame @12:29 🔥🔥🔥
That Yoshimura exhaust system sounds great on the cross plane crank Yamaha R1M ❤
That R1M sounds and looks amazing!! Thanks again for the flash tune on my GSXR this past week, bike is running amazing and has never been so smooth in and out of the corners!!
Nice ride bro
outspokentiger has the best tuned and running R1M I have seen to date. That bike is impressive
Tuned I agree but Reaper1k running one unflashed and he gapping them
@@jacinthebox5211 wut
It is if you like to just ride in a straight line.
@@drasticthompson1995 aint that what these guys doing in this video? I didn't see any circuit action. Just straight pulls. Yes. In a straight line.
@@robertstovall7560 yes and no. Bike came in for mid range remedy, not to get those extra 2 more top end horses...
Lamborghinis and the new corvette have a flat plane crank shaft, which is why they have a high pitch sound… like most inline 4 bikes have. The R1 is different bcz it has a cross plane crank shaft like a muscle car. Yamaha deemed it superior to the flat plane crank for its firing order allowing better grip coming out of corners.
I asked this tuner if he'd work on a Aprilia RSV4 factory and he said no.
Not sure why.
@@rowdybroomstick6394 lot harder to tune more time involved. He can probably knock out 2-4jap bikes in the time it take to one Ape.
Bro we all know that. You don’t have to be Wikipedia on us
@@ociel1988 Chris didn’t know that. 🤣
@@rowdybroomstick6394 cuz he only works on Japanese bikes. Tubing euro bikes requires different equipment and it’s a pain in the ass
if i'm not wrong Chris, pretty much all low rev V8s are crossplane crankshaft. high rev ones like Ferrari are 180 flats.
Yeah you are correct
Don't tell that to Nascar or Pro Stock guys.
@@RSChris666 what do you mean?
NASCAR runs 9000rpm and has 5.5 liters of displacement
@@moustachio334 NASCAR are NASCAR. we are talking about road legal stuff. in the cas of a Corvette it doesn't rev this high. when a 458 does. but the firing order makes it sound even higher anyway. noise has a lot to do with perception.
like an inline 4 flat screamer sounds like it revs higher for he same rpms than the R1M in crossplane. hence why red lines are relatively close. generally about 1000rpms in favor of the flat screamer. not much more. the advantage of a crossplane is that it's more linear with a much wider powerband. even though it produces slightly less top end hp.
i personally love the R1 sound but i hate the crossplane V8 sound. like i prefer a raging V4 Honda or Ducati MotoGP than a Panigale V4.
Lambos have a FLAT PLANE crank, just like McLaren and the new C8 Z06 and regular inline 4 cylinder streetbikes. R1s have a CROSS PLANE crank design
You need more caps.
As far as I know, they're numbered, but not limited production.
They are low production.
i agree the sound is great on ther1m but those vehicles you mention have a flat plane crankshafts not cross plane. the older corvettes use a cross plane crank like the r1m uses. keep up the good content.
This.
the sound of the cross plane engine is class 👌 👏 😊
I was there in person, that's this is loud, I think I want one lol
My bad typos. That thing was loud lol
yea the r1s are class still happy with my gixer tho 😊
Sounds terrible imo opinion
For the first 50% of the revs, yeah. The later half sounds rather blahhh. It's like taking a rumbly barking American V8 and revving it way beyond what normally is done, it just doesn't sound right.
That thing is a menace. Them QS and Autoblips are 👌🏻
The C8 already has a cross plane it's going to have a flat plane crank similar to Ferrari's.
Right you are, C8 Stingray = cross-plane, LT6 Z06 is a bespoke flat plane crank, revs faster and higher like the supercars and other liter bikes (excl. R1) screamers are usually flat plane. Cross plane are throaty.
Exactly. I was surprised that Moore said what he said about Xplanes. For someone so versed in this field…he didn’t sound like he knew what he was talking about…
@@Mitch-Baldwin I think I'll cut Chris some slack, recording the vidya with all that sweet loud sound. The brain knows it, but the mouth sometimes slips.
It sounds awesome but I think Graves exhaust is the best one for the R1's
I have graves on my 16 r1. This yoshimura was built for team westby superbike in motoamerica
You ever heard it with the Austin Racing exhaust
@@jacinthebox5211 Austin Racing is a great looking and sounding exhaust. An interesting exhaust is the TaylorMade. Looks absolutely beautiful with how tight it sits.
They all sounds about the sAme. I have two brothers and it sounds just like all the others
@@RadDadisRad I have seen one of those but never heard it on the new R1 I will have to look it up
41 whp gain up top is very impressive and the r1 is my dream bike ( not saying its the best in everything) and in my opinion the best.
Definitely one of the nicest bikes money can buy. Unbelievable restriction. Top of the line R1 flatlining 140some horsepower? Not sure if I'm supposed to laugh or cry. Anyways, 190 is super respectable pumping capability, and that sound! Really, really lovely machine!
You lucky bastard :))
usually 186 tops from a bone stock engine remap, but, depending on how lucky was the OEM Timing done - meaning - the gears insert on the cams you might get lucky and get the 190.
One in a million R1s :))
Moore Mafia is great service anyway, KUDOS guys. Keep Up.
Damn Yamaha is nasty with it. Those things sound purdy mean
Great video! You should include customers ride after the tune reaction.
It wasn't a bad tune before honestly. I just wanted to get a little extra out of it after installing the full exhaust is why I had it dynoed at the same time as having it re tuned.
That UA-camr you talk to in Florida Fast lane D has a R1M
Only thing I could find related to number produced was approx 600 units in EU. Since it was a online order only they probably gear production to orders entries. MTO production only. Safe to assume 1200 overall. US and EU.
Loved the video. I have a 2016 R1M with a Graves exhaust and Flashtune ECU flash 6 years on bike runs great. 182 whp.
Right on
Listen that beautiful cross plane crankshaft sound will always be my favorite 😩🙌🏽🔥🔥
The R1 is the only inline 4 cylinder sport bike that has the flat plane crank, all the others have cross plane crank.
@@clifffortner2461 other way around
13:37 Those slick shifts sound too good!! 😍💥
The crankshaft is connect to the pistons which would give you the firing order. Maybe I'm wrong but the ecu doesn't change the firing order.
I love the sound of the R1m
Love that idling sound after the Moore flash, is orgasmic 🤯😵😵💫
Why does everything have to be about sex?
@@exothermal.sprocket who's talking about sex? Who bring it up?
@@aj2858 I probably don't have to define the word "orgasm" to you, do I?
@@exothermal.sprocket adjective - "orgasmic shudders" - INFORMAL
very enjoyable or exciting.
"the album is an orgasmic whirl of techno soundscapes" who mention sex?
AFAIK They are limited to 500 per YEAR. So the numbering resets for each production year.
My old 1992 GSXR-600W made 74 RWHP stock. After a full exhaust, Factory jet kit (pilot/main jets and needles), ignition advance, and cam timing it made 90 RWHP. Now the bikes are neutered electronically.
100% sure initial flash was with brentuning 😅.
Hi Chris I have 2020 yamaha r1 here in uk I have just had my bike flashed using woolrich software made 197 bhp before flash and 204 bhp after with spot on fuel air I know you can only compare results if using one dyno as they never read the same but most stock bikes in uk make 194 to 196 bhp notice us bikes airbox intake different to my bike I'm running pipewerx decat pipe mwr he filter and 98 octane fuel cheers stu
So the Corvette C8 Z06 actually has a flat plane crank, as well as Ferraris etc. it’s funny cause flat plane cranks are exotic in cars but the cross plane crank is exotic in inline 4’s and hence sport bikes
Z06 has a flat plane crank like ferrari.....and sounds beautiful!!
A stock ecu is limited by the injector harness wiring, a racing ecu, with necessary harness gets even more out of these New gen bikes
We appreciate what you do, manufacturer’s hands might be tied, but not yours 👍
I’ve got a 2021 R1M, from what I’m told the manufacturer told the dealership that only 1400-ish total were made in 2021 but it’s uncertain because less were made in 2021 due to parts shortages. They said for any year model of R1M it’s under 2000 total units made and nobody I know has seen a badge that has over the #2000. I was also told only the top end dealerships in each state that make the most sales get to order these bikes in for their inventory. I went to the largest Yamaha dealership in Texas that had the highest sale rate in the state and they only were allowed to order 1 R1M for the entire year period. They also have a couple hundred R1M’s every year that go to other countries to the dealerships with the highest sale rates. So it’s not many, it was an absolute pain to get mine, but talking power wise I was told they have slightly different tuning from factory which is why they come out more powerful. It’s been proven by many tuners that they are different in power/torque than the base R1.
have a few mods i want to do to my R1 but after im done i definitely want you to do it , love the explinations attention to detail and your website is super user friendly , keep up the good work
Chris Moore is the man! Impressive work with both the tune and fixing the sort of "botched" tune done previously (fiddling with the wiring). Wish I was in SC with my Z H2 letting Chris flash/tune my precious. 🤪
We have place in Wisconsin that will tune the ZH2 and get 245hp at the wheel. They do road race bikes also.
Any news on the bussa ecu?
10:47 - False. Lamborghini doesn't have a crossplane nor flatplane crankshaft, as they are 72 degrees, not 90 or 180. The new C8 has a flatplane crankshaft, which is why it sounds like a European sports car, not an American muscle car.
Mitsubishi went with a cross plane crankshaft. Late 80s. In their turbo four cy engine. Used till 06. Oem crank has done over 1000 hp. From a 2.0.
@12:29 🔥
👌👌😵😵
First bike I have heard which sounds like V8 engine i have heard the H2 an all other bikes but this R1 is brutal.
_wow sounds so good with that yoshi exhaust huh._
@12:28 those 2 little rips on the down are soooo! Sweat!
I just want to say. You are the best bro. It is your skill making bike go faster gain more horsepower. Love to watching how you make it up
The zo6 c8 corvette will have a flat plane crank. I think you have then confused. The cross plane crank is used in most modern day engines. The flat plane crank is used by the high end cars and soon the z06 c8.
You are correct. My bad. They all still sound unique though. 😄
@@TeamMooreMafia that they do but that flat plane crank sound is definitely something special.
Damn, sounds powerful and smooth as Butter!!! Killing the game Moore Mafa💯
My 2020 R1M is #839. 1500 made it into the States brother' Great Work!
R1s are the best sounding motorcycles out there.
The Rsv4 comes second.
c8 z06 has flat plane crank right?
I'm pretty sure I meant to say the new zo6s are going to have a flat plane crank my dude . all in line for motorcycles except Yamaha use flat plane cranks but Yamaha decided to go with the cross plane crank because it's better for power delivery to the rear wheel to the ground. All American v8s are crossplane which gives them that very amazing lope at low RPM. and yes Ferraris and Lamborghinis and other exotics McLaren's have been using flat plane cranks for a good long time.. I am definitely totally pumped to see how the new Z06 stands up against the Ferraris in McLarens of the world.. it will be even more amazing when someone twin turbos one of those things 🤯🤯🤯
Does getting a tune like this still allow you to use the different modes like for power and engine braking and all that?
yes
When a customer comes in with a drivability issue does the person tunning go street drive it for a bit to feel what they are talking about ? Or can you feel it on the dyno ? Or just use their explanation?
He does it on the dyno @ 11:10. Usually doesn't show it because all people care about is peak numbers. Any good tuner will spend some time tweaking all aspects of how the vehicle or bike runs,
I'm a multi-bike owner. One of my good dyno guys found stuff that I didn't even notice. He spent a lot of time with the on/off. I will also request that they take the bike out for a ride when they're satisfied since I ride over 200 miles just to get there.
-- I love seeing the peak numbers, but not at the expense of crappy fuel mileage in the cruising range.
You mixed up cross plane vs flat plane cranks. The Lamborghini and c8 z06 sound unique bc they have a flat plane.
They sound so awesome, wish they made as much power as the other liter stuff though
Being the owner of this bike and a 2016 r1 road race coarse bike I can tell you that hp you're seeing doesn't matter. Many many factors other than hp.
@@FlaGatorL HP is king when it comes to drag racing. Thats why the R1 stuff isn't very common in the roll racing community.
@@FlaGatorL Wonder what the brocks 0 weight oil and some velocity stacks would do with mr12
@@thewraith6360 I'm 6'2 240. My weight makes more difference than hp for me haha. I would need 500hp to beat a guy with 190hp.
@@FlaGatorL lmao yeah! definately not ideal, love the bike and the yosh sounds awesome!
Yoshimura is the way to go, I have the same exhaust on my bike but a slip on,it doesn’t make so much power maybe 2-3 hp,but the sound is mint,never thought that it would make that power on a Yamaha!!,on the Suzuki 1k it wasn’t like the best power,Brock’s outperforms it but still a good system after all with a beautiful soundtrack
I had a 2005 R1 that I bought new, and was totally stock. I put it on a dyno, and it made 152hp. Funny thing was that another guy there that day had an identical bike except that his had a full aftermarket exhaust, K&N filter, and a ecu upgrade of some sort. His bike made 153hp. Lol
BTW, I MUCH prefer the sound of the older R1's with their traditional firing order.
These sound so much better than the flat-plane turd buckets
That last ten hp for the magic 200 is hiding in those cam degrees. First thing I do with my track bikes is degree the cams and reduce the overlap.
The new c8 z06 has a flat plane v8, cross plane v8 sound like American muscle car like a mustang or Camaro
Yosh exhaust on r1s are the best sound possible..
Dude you have a great intro! One of the best i have seen. When u hear it u think Moore mafia! Nice
Thanks!!
hey man, great videos. can u do video on actual tuning? its cool see the HP gain
lol smh my 2020 R1M is 0482 and the one in this video is 0483 thats crazy I'm in Chicago mine is still all stock haven't had time to ride .....cool videos brother👍always enjoy the content
Sounds awesome.Great work
Between 750-1000 are made each yr since 2015 along with the regular r1 so roughly 1000 units a yr
The "Yamaha Dip" Every Yamaha Bike comes with one in the power curve.
Sounds fantastic, that and the Aprilia V4 make the best noise
A 2006 fireblade had an amazing sound!!! But the yamaha is amazing!
go check "the morecambe missile" on YT. McGuinness on the fireblade 2015 was almost sounding like a 2 stroke high in the rpms. sounds fantastic. i hope Honda is raising the bar with heir new blade. i didn't see much of it for now.
@@jiboo6850 I have high hopes for the new blade! I love my zuke- but it needs an update! I dont think is coming anytime soon..... I had seen patents from honda on "active aero" features which I was sad to find the new blade without..... Honda does still use the 06 blade motor in their cb1000 because it was that good!
@@jiboo6850 mcguiness wins on everything! His 2017 iom win is a favorite of mine.... Not many R1s have prevailed in open road racing?
@@freelancerider100 what? he crashed in 2017. he broke his leg. you must be thinking about another year.
@@jiboo6850 sorry Michael Dunlop my bad...
I think you may have misspoke about crossplane engines and the unique sounds. The newest Corvette is going flat-plane, Ferrari has used flat-plane, McLaren uses flat-plane, other examples are out there. Standard inline-4 engines are flat-plane and the R1 is one of the few exceptions, with a cross-plane crank it has some of the characteristics of an American V8 engine (not a Shelby GT350 or the coming Corvette). Also the R1 has a similar firing interval to a V4 without the need to arrange the cylinders in that manner. R1 sounds similar to the RSV4 for example. But even so, some V4 engines can sound pretty bland and unlike convention (VFR1200 for example). Whether the cylinders are inline or splayed out, crankshaft crank pins can be arranged in unique ways and the sound pattern entering our ears reflects this. GSX-R1000 vs R1. Vmax vs Panigale V4. VFR1200 vs. VFR800. Nuda 900R vs any air cooled Harley. 800 Duke R vs KTM 1090.
Sounds crisp, and proper.
Great video, sound of the bike is amazing 👏 👌 Great job
I've got the 2022 number 1461, would love to come down from VA and put her on your dyno. I was told from Yamaha 500 a year from 2015. got the slip on already on and need a flash. Would like to see if any changes from 20 to 22?
Some changes but nothing major. They have a press release saying they changed some internals.
Mine is 1243. Europe model. I’ve heard from a Yamaha rep that they haven’t been able to make 500 a year. In 2022 there were only a few released in the uk. Very limited bike considering the years they have been releasing them.
They make maximum 1000 units per year of the R1M model.
Its sad to see with every year the restrictions go op. My dad had a new 2003 R1 back then, and then got the new 2004 R1.
That bike had 180hp on 180 kilo. Sadly he and my mom crashed and died riding it when I was 19. I miss the sound of all those 1000cc bikes every weekend at my house. The crash was at 80kmph, just a small oil patch and hey went into the railing. Their friends saw it happen. My dad started when he was 16 just like me. When he went on track days he always had marks on hit suit from the sick lean angle, and always smiled when he told me most people have those marks on the kneepads from sticking out their legs. He had those marks on his ankle and shoulder. He told me the tires really show how fast you go trough turns, the edge of the tire is not lighter, but same colour, because that part is actually being used. Man they would have loved these new R1 and R6 models. Be safe out there guys! You never know when its your last ride...
my 2018 r1 193 to the wheel, tunned by the top tunner
It sound phenomenally Wicked
Fireballs during the day are usually a very good sign...
Love that sound. Buddy has Brock exhaust on a 2019 R1 not m. And it sounds awsome. I'm not sure where ecu was done but he didn't mail it to Moore, it is a pretty good job done though. That yoshi is great sound cross plain motor has awsome sound Mt 10's have that awsome sound too.
Correction, It’s a flat plane crank not cross plane crank.
I can confirm on the unrestricted R1 2021 at 12k rpms the front tire will come up under power in 4th. Thats 130+mph. I do have the bike 1 tooth down in the front sprocket.
Gear any bike right and it's gonna wheelie...
@@corylepire342 that’s not a major gear change though.
Actually it is. Its the equivalent to +3 in the back so its a good change
I love how this beast screams "Let me out of these straps and run wild and free!" just by throttling a little.
And goes phuleeeeeaseeee when letting go of it haha.
The R1m had an order book that opened early and then closed mid year. Yamaha built the ordered number for that year. Only they will know how many got built each year. The engine is the same as the standard bike.
Dude, the R1 has a cross plane crank yes
The C8 ZO6 has a flat plane crank that's why it revs like mad and sounds like a Ferrari 458 V8 engine
Lamborghini uses a custom crank because a flat plane or a cross plane only applies to 4 and 8 cylinder engines as any more or less cylinders would mean the amount of cylinders divided by 360 would yield a smaller or bigger number than 90° or 180°.
Therefore only V8 and 4 cylinders engines (inline 4 or V4) can have a flat or a cross plane crank.
That thing sounds amazing way better than the ducati
in 2015 and 2016 each run of R1M had 500 not sure about the 2017-2022 models
Man you really doing your thing
Even through my phone speaker the sound of that cross plain crank design is giving me wood !
Guys you gotta change out the sprockets on these r1 I got about as much of a difference with 2 teeth up in the rear as I did with the ecu flash. Totally different bike 🤘🤘🤘
Yoshimura always has the best sounding exhaust.
Yoshimura shounds very nice
Sounds awesome!
the gains after the flash are night and day! I have the 2020r1m number 888
LOL. Looks back at the camera at12.30 to see flaming exhaust. Noice!
2016 R1m Here Was Tuned By Superbike unlimited just had a ECU flash but wanna know if your tune will add more power over there's
Moor mafia is a better tuner than brentuning at least for the streets
There are 1500 R1Ms made each year. The new c8 Z06 is NOT a crossplane crank engine, which really sucks. I currently have a 2020 R1M, and I used to have a 2016 Z06. Need to tune my bike but you're so far.. How would your fueling differ with a pipe that LOOKS more open such as the Austin racing?
The Shelby gt350 mustang has a flat plane
crank shaft
Biggest fan Powamoto brought all these thumbs ups for ya algorithms 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍💪
Ok, it might be the alcohol talking, but that might just be the best sounding exhaust I've ever heard...