Great comparison, mate! I was especially invested as I have an R7 with the Yoshi full pipe as you had in the end there so it was nice to see that it outperformed the SC Project ever so slightly 👏🏽😃. I do like the tone of the Yoshi a bit better so no buyers' remorse from me. I was a bit surprised that it ran so rich stock esp after the SC were fitted. I hadn't dyno'd mine yet and I was actually worried that it might be running a bit lean! I also have the DNA filter installed (improves the induction tone but I can't really hear it anymore after the Yoshi had gone in haha) as well so I'm curious whether that would actually help bring the AFR back up closer to ideal? Have you done any tests with both the air filter and Yoshi and see what that combo is like?
Would be interesting to see the results with the Akrapovic S-Y7R12-APT full system as it utilizes longer pipe, Akrapovic claims 5.9hp gain. I have the Akrapovic pipe and I just added the Yoshimura airbox together I am told I could see 12+hp at the wheel with a proper flash.
Those are pretty big claims on a small engine bike such as this. However, we did not get the opportunity to compare these numbers to a completely stock R7 so I'm not sure on that data. I'd love to test and see what overall gains are made vs a completely stock bike 👍👍
@@provenpowercycles Yeah I thought 12hp seemed like a lofty claim as well, I'll have to see what she feels like after I send in my ECU for the flash, after I put the airbox on she did feel peppier in the mid but I am also in Denver metro so it could just be she is getting more air and not running as rich anymore..
very helpful and thorough information. using the stock exhaust would have been interesting. is it better to flash the ECU before installing a full exhaust? thanks
When you get into the ecu you can choose what you want to do or don't do. On stock bikes, there are still things that can be utilized from just a flash that helps the bike ride better/more efficient. I always tell everyone, what you put into the bike, you will get back out on the back end. Meaning: if you put a full exhaust, air filter, chain and Sprocket, velocity stacks, cams, etc vs a stock bike; the tune will come out better and smoother because all the factory restrictions will be gone and off the bike and overall the bike SHOULD make more power as well (provided all of the mods run in sync with each other). 👍
I liked and I'm a subscriber. If you have a comparison of a Brock's Predator exhaust to an M4 full exhaust that would be helpful for me. I'm still running stock and I want to do some mods.
This tells me with the r7 or mt07 you can probably be fine running a pipe with no tune and shouldn’t have to worry about it leaning out the engine to much
More or less yes. It still can cause damage by running too rich. You can have too much fuel in the system that could bleed past piston rings and into the block/cylinder walls. This will break down your oil much quicker than a normal interval causing just as much havoc on your motor as running lean. Food for thought 🤙
Good video, thanks! I've just fitted the Yoshimura AT2, Sounds like its worth getting the bike tuned. Does it take long to have the ecu reprogramed and would the bike benefit from a airbox mod? Thanks
Sad to see they got rid off the inline 4, i kind of like the sound of the twin but i really prefer inline 4 sound and damn its kinda sad to see that its making just 70hp with a tune..
Well the new 4rr is pretty stout too ! We are currently in the process of modifying that one as well but we're expecting similar numbers on a much smaller power plant
I forgot to say the bike is a 21 GSXR1000R that I would like to see the comparison between the Brock's Predator and the M4 full exhaust systems. Any info you have would be appreciated.
I don't have a graph here that specifically tests between m4 and brocks predator. I have a client that had a predator system on his but he had a bunch of other supporting mods as well so it would not be a fair comparison.
Where are you located? I would like to know what it would cost to have my ninja 400 put on your Dyno and tune my Ecu I have installed a slip on Leo, Vince LV10 which I do like. It really looks like you know what you’re doing with the tunes. Thank you very much,
Great vid. I'm not understanding why a tuned R7 with exhaust is maxing ~47 lb-ft torque and ~71 hp, when the stock specs of the 2022 Yamaha YZF-R7 are 50 lb-ft torque and 74hp. Are all bike stats from the dealer this inflated, or am I misunderstanding something?
Yes, manufacturers typically quote hp measured at the crank. Dyno tunes by nature, are measured at the rear wheels which in turn typically results in a 8 to 12% (or more) loss through the drivetrain. So in this case, 71hp and 47lb-ft at the wheels are actually quite impressive and indicates that some gains were made over stock!
When afr is optimal compared to an overly rich mixture, it will save on fuel mileage. Some bikes have an overly lean mixture. So we would need to enrichen the afr to make it optimal which, in turn would lower fuel mileage. Everybike is different, so it all depends 👍
Good day PPC. Have you tried getting baselines from just open headers? If yes, did you see an overall lean condition on the AFR (above stoich) or was the AFR just above your target 13s? If you do a baseline on just the headers, will putting on a slip-on muffler make the AFR less lean?
Sorry on the delayed response. I have not dynod it with just the headers! My guess would be that it would lean it out slightly more so than what we were reading. When you add back pressure, you typically get a more rich condition vs a bike that flows more air through it with a larger or more free flowing exhaust. 👍
@@provenpowercycles Thanks. Do you think that if say, we dyno the bike with open headers then we see a leaned out AFR, will you be able to tune it to get back to the optimal target AFR?
@ManCannotRide yeah absolutely. No matter the condition (rich or lean) you should be able to correct thru tuning, as long as you do not have a mechanical problem with the bike! 🙌
Looks like one manufacturer spent more time developing their system ! .....not just making it look pretty. This engine is crying out for racier cams to make more power, the torque curve looks like a single/off road bike. Mild cams mean it doesn't need much in the way of restrictions though 🙂
I believe the newer bikes are coming with more of a midrange setup because of the emissions now. The newer busas are the same way. Smaller cam profile vs the older models and they have similar looking power curves. But that also leaves room for us power hungry people to look for and develop ways to pulling up that top end powerband 😏
@@provenpowercycles now that it’s been out for a while, if you did EVERYTHING you wanted to it, how close can we expect to get it compared to the R6? I know we can only ask so much out of a parallel twin but I’m holding out hope vs waiting for the R9 to release and upgrading
Are both systems running without a baffle? The only time my mt07 ran pig rich on the dyno with the sc project silencer is when the shot glass style db killer was installed in the inlet of the can. And even then the thing was so loud that it hurt your ears.
Both exhaust systems ran without the baffle in. I agree in thinking that the baffle installed would create a rich mixture, and without it, it would be much leaner. Buuuuttt that is not the case on them it seems.
~1500$, I bought a full Yoshi setup for 1100$ and sent my ECU off to get flashed for 300$, give or take a little depending on shop/tuner. Mine only took about 4-5 days with expedited return shipment
@Marco Moto no I'm sorry. That's pretty far from me lol I know some people in TX that are good and Oregon. Oregon there is EDR performance and in TX there is Boomstune HQ.
Not sure. I've only tuned a built 690, so it's not a fair comparison. But definitely disappointing numbers on a 700 for sure. Especially since it's a parallel twin.
@@EVERYTHINGSEVERYTHING built like crazy. Trick pistons trick rods tons of hesd porting, aggressive, cams, lots of compression, aggressive fuel tuning and ignition advance. Yoshi trick airbox and velocity stack Yoshi Titanium full exhaust. It’s a full on MotoAmerica spec pro racing, twins class bike
Typically, when you remove the catalytic converter, the bike will run lean (too much air), which can cause excessive heat inside the motor, causing damage over time. On THIS particular R7, it ran rich (too much fuel), which can cause issues as well. If the bike runs excessively rich then fuel can actually make its way past your pistons/piston rings and break down your oil prematurely, which can cause spun rod bearings and other issues as well.
All Yamaha has to do is take it out to 750cc and tune it at least as good as the old Ducati 748. It’s decades newer and therefore should be decades better. Oh. And slip it into an R6 chassis! Then they wouldn’t have had to design all new frame and running gear! Kept costs down, built a better bike. 🤷♂️
I know right? We were pretty disappointed with the new setup but with all the new euro emissions codes, it made it harder now for manufacturers to produce a powerful bike and still get by 😔
Sure, just drop a 2-cyl engine probably half the size of the r6 4-cyl in to the same frame😂 i wonder why Yamaha haven’t offered you a contract yet since it is that easy.
Nothing beats the sound of the old school Parallel Twins like Triumph BSA and Norton even the Modern Benelli Derived Chinese made Lanceon Twin .. The 270 degree twin like the Yamaha sounds ok but not as cool as the old Triumphs ect
Is the move to wait for the R9? I ride a 650 right now. I want to look of the R6/7 as it’s the prettiest bike on the road but the guts of the R7 are just terrible. So hard to find a 2017-2019 R6 and don’t want to move lateral to the R7 from a 650. Plz help lol
An exhaust seems like such a waste of money, besides it sounding louder does it do anything else probably no big difference in power neither torque or hp
Not at all. Cp2 engine. Same as a mt07. The body is so fuckin clean tho I wish they went with a 100cc bigger inline 4 that actually made power cuz the bike is beautiful. Definitely one of the only bikes I’d buy brand new but it would be gettin an r1 swap or a baby turbo.
Please dont ever say the R7 is the new R6, far from. The R6 is a legend, the R7 is a turd. 😂 yes I can say this. Kept my R6, sold my R7 3 months after buying it. Saw it for what it was.
Why did you buy it in the first place? It's only R6 butt hurts that keep comparing the R7 to the R6 when even Yamaha noted that the R7 was never meant to replace to the R6. Interesting to note how the R6 gradually became a sales failure where as the R7 has been a sales success for Yamaha.
@101BadBreath I think you missed the whole point of my comment. The guy doing the dyno stated it was the new R6 and was directed at him. I bought it to use it as a daily rider. It's a turd.
@101BadBreath I'm not sure what that means. But ok. Your comments indicate that you own one, and it's your first bike. Sorry you can't move on from it. It's all good.
@@moton8tion866 I will spell it out for you poor thing: means you are clueless, so keep up. "and it's your first bike" ... You are trying so hard, bless.
Was literally about to go buy one of these R7's. Looks so amazing! Then I heard it. Turned me right off from them totally and forever. Wtf is with the twin cylinder stuff? Sounds like absolute crap. No sport bike should sound like that. Then you add in aftermarket exhaust? /vomit. What a shame
Top tier comparison and test right here !! Thank you for your time and efforts man ! These are the videos we enthusiast all want to see !
I appreciate the feedback! I am trying to get more comparison videos out there! Esp because I will show real data with real numbers!
Brilliant and extremely insightful. Great testing. Appreciation from the UK.
I appreciate the compliment! 🙌
its always interesting to hear people speak what a dyno graph is showing
Great comparison, mate! I was especially invested as I have an R7 with the Yoshi full pipe as you had in the end there so it was nice to see that it outperformed the SC Project ever so slightly 👏🏽😃. I do like the tone of the Yoshi a bit better so no buyers' remorse from me.
I was a bit surprised that it ran so rich stock esp after the SC were fitted. I hadn't dyno'd mine yet and I was actually worried that it might be running a bit lean!
I also have the DNA filter installed (improves the induction tone but I can't really hear it anymore after the Yoshi had gone in haha) as well so I'm curious whether that would actually help bring the AFR back up closer to ideal? Have you done any tests with both the air filter and Yoshi and see what that combo is like?
people keep comparing with r6 and r1. .we dont care. .im still gonna get this bike one day. .btw love ur video
Man, this was a great video! Thank you for all your work on this. Could you upload a video on how exactly you set your tunes up?
We plan on opening classes up eventually teaching the fundamentals of tuning in simple terms easy for most to understand 💪
Love the content brother, nobody doing what you guys are doing right now ..💪🏽
Much love bro! 💪 I appreciate that more than you know 🙌
Would be interesting to see the results with the Akrapovic S-Y7R12-APT full system as it utilizes longer pipe, Akrapovic claims 5.9hp gain. I have the Akrapovic pipe and I just added the Yoshimura airbox together I am told I could see 12+hp at the wheel with a proper flash.
Those are pretty big claims on a small engine bike such as this. However, we did not get the opportunity to compare these numbers to a completely stock R7 so I'm not sure on that data.
I'd love to test and see what overall gains are made vs a completely stock bike 👍👍
@@provenpowercycles Yeah I thought 12hp seemed like a lofty claim as well, I'll have to see what she feels like after I send in my ECU for the flash, after I put the airbox on she did feel peppier in the mid but I am also in Denver metro so it could just be she is getting more air and not running as rich anymore..
@@ThisOldGuy3 yeah possibly! Every little bit helps! 👍👍
How do you like the sound of the Akra? Been super indecisive on what to go with.
Thank you for making this detailed video it is so good
No worries man 💪 that's what we're here for 🙌
Hey mate.
Great job on the true comparison.
That sc project pipe sounds so good on it, the cp2 sounds like a mini r1 lol
It definitely is a badass sounding bike! 🤙 especially compared to other parallel twins
@@provenpowercyclesFor sure. 270 degree crank help so much. It even reminded me a little of the the V2 899 Panigale I once had.
I would imagine this twin would run a good bit cooler than an inline 4 as well.
Awesome video I currently have the 2024 r7 just waiting on the yoshi to come in and you’ll be seeing me at your shop for sure
Best comparison video..thank you.
Thank you very much for this video
whats loudest and best exhaust for R7? got a 23 a few months ago and can't stand the stock sound.
That SC was a screamer for sure lol
very helpful and thorough information. using the stock exhaust would have been interesting. is it better to flash the ECU before installing a full exhaust? thanks
When you get into the ecu you can choose what you want to do or don't do. On stock bikes, there are still things that can be utilized from just a flash that helps the bike ride better/more efficient.
I always tell everyone, what you put into the bike, you will get back out on the back end. Meaning: if you put a full exhaust, air filter, chain and Sprocket, velocity stacks, cams, etc vs a stock bike; the tune will come out better and smoother because all the factory restrictions will be gone and off the bike and overall the bike SHOULD make more power as well (provided all of the mods run in sync with each other). 👍
Were you running 87 Octane gas or 93 Octane? Here in Michigan most all gasoline is 10% ethanol which will make it run almost 4% leaner.
plenty enough power for me. i dont need to go faster than 130 mph
I envy you
Yoshi exhaust and MM tune lets it hit atleast 141, but can’t confirm when it’ll blow up past then 😂
Same
Never enough😅
Great Job. Thanks a lot for the share.
Thank you so much for this
Did they have a stock intake/filter/snorkel?
Tech Wizards..most impressive.👍
Thank you sir! We appreciate the compliment! 💪
I liked and I'm a subscriber. If you have a comparison of a Brock's Predator exhaust to an M4 full exhaust that would be helpful for me. I'm still running stock and I want to do some mods.
This tells me with the r7 or mt07 you can probably be fine running a pipe with no tune and shouldn’t have to worry about it leaning out the engine to much
More or less yes. It still can cause damage by running too rich. You can have too much fuel in the system that could bleed past piston rings and into the block/cylinder walls. This will break down your oil much quicker than a normal interval causing just as much havoc on your motor as running lean. Food for thought 🤙
Any air box adjustments?
Good video, thanks! I've just fitted the Yoshimura AT2, Sounds like its worth getting the bike tuned. Does it take long to have the ecu reprogramed and would the bike benefit from a airbox mod? Thanks
Sad to see they got rid off the inline 4, i kind of like the sound of the twin but i really prefer inline 4 sound and damn its kinda sad to see that its making just 70hp with a tune..
Well the new 4rr is pretty stout too ! We are currently in the process of modifying that one as well but we're expecting similar numbers on a much smaller power plant
We are all hoping for a R9 in the future with that triple!
Do you HAVE to flash the ecu with the yoshi since it reuses the stock O2 sensor? or only if you do the exhaust AND different air filter?
Are manufacturers running rich mix to counteract the effects of the new E10 fuel?
Awesome!
Beautiful
I forgot to say the bike is a 21 GSXR1000R that I would like to see the comparison between the Brock's Predator and the M4 full exhaust systems. Any info you have would be appreciated.
I don't have a graph here that specifically tests between m4 and brocks predator. I have a client that had a predator system on his but he had a bunch of other supporting mods as well so it would not be a fair comparison.
Where are you located? I would like to know what it would cost to have my ninja 400 put on your Dyno and tune my Ecu I have installed a slip on Leo, Vince LV10 which I do like. It really looks like you know what you’re doing with the tunes. Thank you very much,
Great vid. I'm not understanding why a tuned R7 with exhaust is maxing ~47 lb-ft torque and ~71 hp, when the stock specs of the 2022 Yamaha YZF-R7 are 50 lb-ft torque and 74hp. Are all bike stats from the dealer this inflated, or am I misunderstanding something?
For what i know the manufacturer data are often referred to the power at the shaft not at the wheel
Yes, manufacturers typically quote hp measured at the crank. Dyno tunes by nature, are measured at the rear wheels which in turn typically results in a 8 to 12% (or more) loss through the drivetrain.
So in this case, 71hp and 47lb-ft at the wheels are actually quite impressive and indicates that some gains were made over stock!
When you correct air to fuel ratio does it improve the mpg and does it affect reliability of engine?
When afr is optimal compared to an overly rich mixture, it will save on fuel mileage. Some bikes have an overly lean mixture. So we would need to enrichen the afr to make it optimal which, in turn would lower fuel mileage. Everybike is different, so it all depends 👍
This video is funny because everyone is saying the bike runs extremely lean at stock. Or was this mapped before you made this video?
Are there any data showing Leo Vince Evo One base map vs updated map? It's road legal and I assume a lot of people in Europe would like to know :)
I unfortunately do not have that data to provide. If someone comes along with that setup, I will datalog it and upload it 🙂
Good day PPC. Have you tried getting baselines from just open headers? If yes, did you see an overall lean condition on the AFR (above stoich) or was the AFR just above your target 13s?
If you do a baseline on just the headers, will putting on a slip-on muffler make the AFR less lean?
Sorry on the delayed response. I have not dynod it with just the headers! My guess would be that it would lean it out slightly more so than what we were reading. When you add back pressure, you typically get a more rich condition vs a bike that flows more air through it with a larger or more free flowing exhaust. 👍
@@provenpowercycles Thanks. Do you think that if say, we dyno the bike with open headers then we see a leaned out AFR, will you be able to tune it to get back to the optimal target AFR?
@ManCannotRide yeah absolutely. No matter the condition (rich or lean) you should be able to correct thru tuning, as long as you do not have a mechanical problem with the bike! 🙌
I'm curious about the toce exhaust as well
Whenever I get any newer ones I will for sure test them out and hopefully be able to video it all for you guys
How much do you charge for a mail in Ecu flash ??i have a 17 Gsxs 750 with a Yoshi alpha slip on and k&n air filter?!
I charge $300 for the mail in ecu flash for suzuki 🤙
Good job sir
Damn good video
What program are you using to tune?
I utilized woolich racing for this bike 🙌
Who would win in a race Zx4rr vs r7 please answer my question
Zx4rr
Flashed zx4r stock r7
Looks like one manufacturer spent more time developing their system ! .....not just making it look pretty. This engine is crying out for racier cams to make more power, the torque curve looks like a single/off road bike. Mild cams mean it doesn't need much in the way of restrictions though 🙂
I believe the newer bikes are coming with more of a midrange setup because of the emissions now. The newer busas are the same way. Smaller cam profile vs the older models and they have similar looking power curves.
But that also leaves room for us power hungry people to look for and develop ways to pulling up that top end powerband 😏
@@provenpowercycles now that it’s been out for a while, if you did EVERYTHING you wanted to it, how close can we expect to get it compared to the R6? I know we can only ask so much out of a parallel twin but I’m holding out hope vs waiting for the R9 to release and upgrading
Are both systems running without a baffle? The only time my mt07 ran pig rich on the dyno with the sc project silencer is when the shot glass style db killer was installed in the inlet of the can. And even then the thing was so loud that it hurt your ears.
Both exhaust systems ran without the baffle in. I agree in thinking that the baffle installed would create a rich mixture, and without it, it would be much leaner. Buuuuttt that is not the case on them it seems.
@@provenpowercycles thanks.
How much would a R7 stock cost to get ecu flashed and dyno plus a exhaust generally?
~1500$, I bought a full Yoshi setup for 1100$ and sent my ECU off to get flashed for 300$, give or take a little depending on shop/tuner. Mine only took about 4-5 days with expedited return shipment
I have a termignoni full exhaust on my R7. Have you done a tune with that exhaust? I haven’t seen anyone else run the termignoni in the states
I have not. There have only been a couple of R7s that we tuned so far and none of them have ran the termi exhaust for it yet.
@@provenpowercycles thnx for the reply. You know any tuners in CA that you trust?
@Marco Moto no I'm sorry. That's pretty far from me lol I know some people in TX that are good and Oregon. Oregon there is EDR performance and in TX there is Boomstune HQ.
How much hp coud make if you put ceramic bearing on all rotating running gears?
Not sure. Only one way to find out! 🤙
can i send my ecu to u.. just put a sc on my 2022 r7
Hmmm, makes less rwhp and torque than my 17 KTM 690 Duke single cylinder?
Not sure. I've only tuned a built 690, so it's not a fair comparison. But definitely disappointing numbers on a 700 for sure. Especially since it's a parallel twin.
How much power can u get out of this bike like the absolute max
More to the point of how much money you got, you could do a turbo on a fully billet engine if your pockets are deep enough
Mine has 96hp. Not stock, of course.
How so?
@@EVERYTHINGSEVERYTHING built like crazy. Trick pistons trick rods tons of hesd porting, aggressive, cams, lots of compression, aggressive fuel tuning and ignition advance. Yoshi trick airbox and velocity stack Yoshi Titanium full exhaust.
It’s a full on MotoAmerica spec pro racing, twins class bike
Is it okay to still ride without a tune?? I have the Two Brothers Racing on my R7.
Typically, when you remove the catalytic converter, the bike will run lean (too much air), which can cause excessive heat inside the motor, causing damage over time.
On THIS particular R7, it ran rich (too much fuel), which can cause issues as well. If the bike runs excessively rich then fuel can actually make its way past your pistons/piston rings and break down your oil prematurely, which can cause spun rod bearings and other issues as well.
@@provenpowercycles Jeez so I gotta get it at least flashed soon then. Thanks for the response and great info!
@Terry - RR no worries man 👌 and thank you for the compliment 🙌
hey rider did u ever get a tune . and did u notice difference if so.
I did get it flashed, I just installed the ECU today but the weather doesn't permit riding today, =(@@tommybenson3541
Would be very good to see how well it does with the d n a filter stage two
I'm sure as time goes on we will gather more data on these bikes 🙌
Yes, most interested! I just commented that on top of the Yoshi, I also have the DNA filter installed. Any new vids, @provenpowercycles ?
Hey my brother has a Yamaha XSR900 and wants you to tune it. Are you interested in doing a flash and tune on it?
Hell yeah bro! I got one scheduled up right now actually. Was that him?
@@provenpowercycles lol maybe I have to ask him
@Chris Haswell I just found it. Guy named Ted lol but yeah I can do it though bro 💪
It's NOT the new R6, its the R7 not even remotely the same, not replace it either.
All Yamaha has to do is take it out to 750cc and tune it at least as good as the old Ducati 748. It’s decades newer and therefore should be decades better. Oh. And slip it into an R6 chassis! Then they wouldn’t have had to design all new frame and running gear! Kept costs down, built a better bike. 🤷♂️
I know right? We were pretty disappointed with the new setup but with all the new euro emissions codes, it made it harder now for manufacturers to produce a powerful bike and still get by 😔
Sure, just drop a 2-cyl engine probably half the size of the r6 4-cyl in to the same frame😂 i wonder why Yamaha haven’t offered you a contract yet since it is that easy.
Nothing beats the sound of the old school Parallel Twins like Triumph BSA and Norton even the Modern Benelli Derived Chinese made Lanceon Twin ..
The 270 degree twin like the Yamaha sounds ok but not as cool as the old Triumphs ect
they look super sharp but they need the damn mt-09 engine in this chassis to make me make the jump over from suzuki
We couldn't agree more! At least yoshimura is making some strides on this bike! We will be testing some of their mods on one here soon!
R6 is irreplaceable and this is coming from R7 rider lol
I agree. Such a let down compared to the r6!
Is the move to wait for the R9? I ride a 650 right now. I want to look of the R6/7 as it’s the prettiest bike on the road but the guts of the R7 are just terrible. So hard to find a 2017-2019 R6 and don’t want to move lateral to the R7 from a 650. Plz help lol
I'd easily replace a R6 with ZX6 😅
An exhaust seems like such a waste of money, besides it sounding louder does it do anything else probably no big difference in power neither torque or hp
Go hand rake some asphalt you fool
SoOo It's NOT an R6.....SMH🤡
Not at all. Cp2 engine. Same as a mt07. The body is so fuckin clean tho I wish they went with a 100cc bigger inline 4 that actually made power cuz the bike is beautiful. Definitely one of the only bikes I’d buy brand new but it would be gettin an r1 swap or a baby turbo.
What a joke of a bike. No way it should be in the same family as the R1 and R6. That thing is a toy.
Some people want the sport look and feel without the power 🤷🏽♂️
To be honest I like it's twin sound 🤔
@@popdatclutch3010right? I bought one coming from a rebel 500 because I wanted to try a different feeling bike, having fun with it so far too!
Seethe
All bikes are "toys"
Please dont ever say the R7 is the new R6, far from. The R6 is a legend, the R7 is a turd. 😂 yes I can say this. Kept my R6, sold my R7 3 months after buying it. Saw it for what it was.
Why did you buy it in the first place? It's only R6 butt hurts that keep comparing the R7 to the R6 when even Yamaha noted that the R7 was never meant to replace to the R6. Interesting to note how the R6 gradually became a sales failure where as the R7 has been a sales success for Yamaha.
@101BadBreath
I think you missed the whole point of my comment. The guy doing the dyno stated it was the new R6 and was directed at him. I bought it to use it as a daily rider. It's a turd.
you bought it as a commuter... 😂 Explains a lot
@101BadBreath
I'm not sure what that means. But ok.
Your comments indicate that you own one, and it's your first bike. Sorry you can't move on from it. It's all good.
@@moton8tion866 I will spell it out for you poor thing: means you are clueless, so keep up. "and it's your first bike" ... You are trying so hard, bless.
Was literally about to go buy one of these R7's. Looks so amazing! Then I heard it. Turned me right off from them totally and forever. Wtf is with the twin cylinder stuff? Sounds like absolute crap. No sport bike should sound like that. Then you add in aftermarket exhaust? /vomit. What a shame
Get a zx4rr
@@huntersmark917 I did look at those. I pulled the trigger on a zx6r instead
Will feel weaker when riding it you made it to lean!