BEST BILSTEIN 5100 REAR SHOCK & SPRING UPGRADE EVER!!
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- In this video I upgrade and replace the rear stock Nivomat shocks and springs in my 2003 Chevrolet Suburban with Bilstein 5100 shocks and Bilstein springs. This process should be relatively similar to all Suburban, Tahoe, Yukon, Silverado and Sierra vehicles.
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My neighbor completely built a 2002 Yukon XL 2500 SLT from the bottom up. Upgraded every nut and bolt, you could think of, dropped a brand new 6.6 LB7 Duramax with an Allison 1000 into it. Kryptonite steering components, the whole shabang. Spent well over $100k into it.......has it for sale in his front yard for $40k. The thing is a MONSTER but its never touched a bump since its build. I'm about to sell my Sierra and buy it just cuz I know its pretty much indestructable😂😂😂
I also replaced my nivomat shocks on my 03 burban with the 5100’s but I installed MOOG heavy duty or the Z71 springs instead of the bilstein. Smooth ride, no complaints.
Did you need to compress the new Moog spring?
Nice. I'd like to go with the Moog, too.
Normally you do not torque bottom bolt unless it is on ride hight
Dude I'm stoked you bought the 2003. I saw your tune up of the 90s suburban years ago when I had a 93. Now I have a 2003 like you. Keep these videos coming! Alot of these are still on the road man. They dont make them like they used to.
For everyone’s information. The Z71 and standard suspension trucks do not have these special shocks and do not require spring replacement. Only the ZW7 option code (can be read on an options sticker inside your door jamb) require the spring swap. Also, ZW7 smooth ride trucks are not the same as Z55 Auto Ride trucks. The Z55 option is a full on electronic shock and air spring system.
Do you know if we change to bilstein shocks .. will it damage anything on the vehicle?? Or will it ride the same ? Thanks for any info... cuz mines also has the smooth ride performance .. and I need to change the rear shocks but don’t want to spend too much money ..
@@gustavokimbys3302 did you ever change your shocks and springs? I’m wanting to do the same
I got springs and shocks on my avy what u talkong about dude ??
What are you talking ive seen avys with shocks and springs
Will these shocks go on my z71 hoe?
I went with kyb all around in my 2002 suburban, rides like a dream
I pulled the trigger and got a set of 4600's for my old 2003 Ford F150......LOVE them!!!!
I love Bilstein shocks.
I watched your reviews of them and was pretty much sold, haha. I was driving over speed bumps in my neighborhood and giggling like a 5 year old....they work that great. @@1RoadGarage
Had Bilstein shocks on my 2000 Tundra and my 1999 Jeep Wrangler when I owned them. They both rode great. I will need shocks on my 2003 Silverado 1500 next year and will be putting the 5100 shocks on it. The 1999 Wrangler had the 5100 shocks on it. Can not beat the ride quality of the Bilstein shocks. Great video keep it up.
I watched this video at least 10 times before I put these shocks and springs on. This is what I learned. Use a 3 ton floor jack. Use 6 ton jack stands. Use blue lock tight on all the bolts except for the nylon nuts on top of the front shocks. If you can get the rear high enough you won't have to remove the wheels, but you have to release the rear shocks while you have a jack supporting the differential and you have to lower that as far as it will go and you can remove the old springs and put the new ones in with out having to use spring compressors. I had to remove the rear wheels so you must have had your truck pretty high. Maybe 5 or 6 notches on the jack stan. I went back through all the bolts an check the tork once I had the truck back on the ground but didn't really notice any chang. I spent about an hr. On the front and two to three on the back. The dealership wanted 4 to 5 shop hrs. To do the job at $120./ hr. It was worth the $ 200-300. I spent at harbor freight for the jack and Jack stands because I'm sure I'll be doing more repairs now that I subscribed to your channel. Thx again!
Thank you so much!!
Good work. I'm a Toyota 4Runner guy, but all of this translates crystal clearly. Thank you.
Ima be doing this all the way around on my 04 avalanche with almost 300k miles on original shocks lol
Sounds like a winner to me!
Me too!! Haha just looking around UA-cam to find some good shocks for my 05 Tahoe with 320k miles
They weren't leaking? I barely have 150k on my 12 Silverado them rear shocks are already starting to sip oil
Great video! I'm a new owner of a 1 owner 2004 LT and purchased the same springs, but opted for the 4600 series shocks. Can't wait to install and feel the difference, my fronts are shot for sure, rear Nivomats can't be much better.
Great video! I have a 2004 Suburban and changed front and rear to the 4600 Bilsteins rather than the 5100's. Read quite a few reviews that the 5100's will lift factory height which I didn't want. Also read the 5100's create a bit more of a stiff hard ride than the 4600's. Also went with the Bilstein springs to avoid the sag in the rear. Over all I am very happy with them.
Hey boss could I get a link to the 4600s and springs?
I have 5100's on my 2000 Ford Super Duty and will be putting them on my wife's 2004 Suburban. Thanks for the info.
Did you do them yourself? If so did this video help
How is the Suburban now? Any complaints?
Thank you love the content, this is my next project for my truck, I have an 04 z71, and it’s all over the road, thank you again for video!!!
This is what I'm upgrading to for sure best shocks for your money 💰. Thank you
Just added them to my Amazon wish list for my 02 Suburban
Sir you can get them cheaper other than Amazon do your research you can save some money
Desert_storm76h03
Where?
I went with the 24-185783's for the 3" lift on my Suburban, along with the Moog 81069 HD springs.
The commercial was not confusing at all. It was pretty straight forward about what it tells u.
Great video. I have a 99 yukon and i installed the 5100 shocks on the rear so far and wow what a great ride it made. I will b putting the 5100 on the front soon. Keep the vids coming. Thanks
@Brandon S Nope
JNB so did you get er done and if so how do you feel about it.... I’m getting all four done with new MOG springs shortly
Great video. Thanks for the info. I have an 05 Avalanche with the air assist rear. I'll be doing this job soon. Bilstiens all the way!
Just put some 4600’s on my 2015 Tahoe yesterday...Amazing. Feels better than new
FYI Guys. He has the "Premium Smooth Ride Suspension" That's why the springs must be changed. The stock
springs would be too soft.
Is that ZW7
Can't wait to replace the rancho shocks and struts on my 14 Silverado
Nice job as always very informative! Keep up the good work!
Good luck with them
I made it 5800 miles on a set, started pouring the oil.
Couldn't get them to warranty it.
Three years later the bushings had rotted completely out of the shocks.
I had good service from their circle track shocks, but I wouldn't run their street shocks on a wheelbarrow.
Check out the taco and Nissan forums a lot of people have had bad experiences with their 5100(5150 series.
Better off with Gabriel or Rancho junk from advance. At least they will stand behind it.
I just did this exact conversion this morning and it turned out great... I even used the earthquake 1/2 stubby impact as well, I also replaced the fronts as well... Great how to video!! I wouldn't mind one of your 1road decals to slap on my tahoe!!
Thank you for make this videos. Great job.
One of the best Mods I made to my 03 ZR2 was to ditch the Bilstein rear shocks. They were way to stiff on compression. The ZR2 is an "offroad" pkg but even then you don't need rock hard rear shocks unless you are jumping levies. Put in Monroe LT GasMatic shocks and now my teeth are not swapping places when I drive down the road. Much better.
Just a FYI you should replace that spare Firestone Tire
that tire is up for recall the LE one as well
Lol.
Going to replace four of mine on 17 High Country 6.2L with 4600s. It's not lifted and Bilstein recommended them and to boot the dealer will replace them under warranty with any shock of my choice.
This would've been nice to know a while back. My 03 has the self leveling rear shocks too. Busted them both on a trip back home from a family vacation. So, not knowing any better, I went back with the same, and spent $750 on Rock Auto. If I'm not mistaken, 5100s are less than half of that🤦♂️ The more you know, DiNG..STAR😂😂😂
I just did mine front and back with the Bilstein 5100's , springs too for a little over $400... Ride is great.
@@uglyhandgarage2927 Yeah, I'm thinking about doing a lift on mine now, so I will definitely take a second look at these.
Bit late here… but how was the difference between the old and new shock? The premium ride zw7 nivomats have the advantage of being self leveling shocks under load and better ride handling as well as comfort. But it is pricy. I not knowing anything, replaced my nivos on 03 Tahoe with OE ac delco for suspensions with no premium ride… and they do ride much better but now the rear has dropped a bit it’s sagging. Under load it would squat. I’m thinking of going back to nivomats instead of the bilstein route simply for the spring adjustment advantage over regular shocks
@@VCR1117 Honestly it was a damn good ride afterwards. With the amount of weight in my cargo area due to a custom system, it had a little squat but it almost still looked factory. Unfortunately I totalled it about 3 months ago so I have to start all the way over. Now have a 2010 Yukon Denali XL, and after I get the stupid DOD situation taken care of, then the suspension is next.
I had to fix the sag effect in the rear with 0.75 coil spacers, I have 6 inch lift coils so I couldn't have used the bilstien coil
Thank You. Good report. 5100
Should of also installed new insulators since the current ones are old and dry rotted.
I find it odd that there is nothing limiting the axle drop besides the shocks and brake lines.
My new rear springs took a month to settle in. But they're firm cop shocks for an 2003 Impala 🚗
Wow. Same size?
@@1RoadGarage last month+ I put the cop shocks on a Buick 2008 lacrosse. And TTX terrain though xtreme (rear sway bar links ) »🚗 my other car is a Suburban 1995 GMC K2500 with ACDelco shocks front and back.
You were not AMAZED, you were SHOCKED! HA!
If you tow, I think you need an HD shock. Such as KONI Red adjustable shocks made for SUVs?
Do you have a 3 year update on your suspension setup?
Did u noticed a increase in ride height with larger springs
Just swapped my shocks after 150k miles, I too had the premium zw7 suspension on a 03 Tahoe and it was shot. Ride horrible on bumpy roads. Felt like a boat basically. I not knowing those shocks were special ordered rear OE AC Delco shocks for cars with out the premium ride. Well they do ride much better, but the rear dropped a bit. Didn’t know I had to change the springs… oddly, instead of changing the springs I’m thinking of going back to the Nivomats, simply because they are self leveling shocks under load, and also seem to offer great ride. They are expensive, but they do offer a lot of benefits traditional shocks can’t.
Would the 4700s fit on a z71 tahoe or does this only work with the premium suspension?
OH NO ! ....you installed the shocks up side down !
The shocks on my dodge go the same way as how he installed his
agaragar21 is right. Suburban, Tahoe and Silverado Bilstein shocks are to be mounted with the boot down. Bilstein tells you clearly on their instructions to pay attention to the direction the “Bilstein” label should go. Which is up.
Little tip I found with my 5100 on my tundra. I doubled up the zip ties on my shock boots and they were loose after about 2k miles. Grab some stainless hose clamps from Home Depot or your local hardware store. Def eliminates the possibility of it coming off again.
I think you might have your shocks upside down. I think the rubber boot should be at the bottom.I'm installing the 5125 model on my f150 and that's what the installation manual says. Let me know. Thanks
Boots go up bud😂. Have the same shocks on my Z71 Sierra.
I haven't come across a problem that I had. Had a shop put mine on, and on the front strut, the adjustable clip was set right, and when taken off the lift, it collapsed. Waiting on a new strut, the other three, no problems. Shop had never had it happen before.
Hey Jimmy, how are the shocks holding up after 2 months now?
This one needed front shocks for sure.
What’s crazy though is if you go back and watch threw his back glass you can see that the first test with stock shocks only jumps the car twice vs the bellstein that jumped the car 3 times before the shock reset its self
No they didn't
Are the shocks upside down? Just watched other videos and the boot was at the bottom.
Thanks for your video.
Nice--I've got a Z71 so my springs are good but thinking about these Bilsteins for my 2004.
Presto, self-leveling eliminated so when loaded it will now squat
I think the rear shock was installed upside down. According to Bilstein, the logo always goes right side up.
Good information
Thanks
Good Video. Thanks for posting.
You should also add the bilstein 5100 series steering stabilizer.
Thank you
I have a 2003 GMC Yukon SLT and I'm going with Bilstein shocks and springs,but the steering stabilizer won't work on a 2003 according to eBay.
@@Kendell062 don't use ebay for parts reference. Use bilstein's online look up.
@@yellows10dude You're right, should have made sure by checking Bilstein's website.
Like very much your videos
Very original
Very good presentation!
Cool channel! I have a question. I have a 2002 Suburban 1500 4x4 5.3, my rear shocks are air, what do you think about changing them to non-air shocks 5100 Bilstein shocks?
Ya my suburban doesn't have the fancy suspension but the springs are worn out it sits pretty low and I say they are pretty cheap I just haven't done them yet
I'm just now watching your video and where did you find those springs in blue? I can only find them in black.
Those oe rear shocks automatically leveled out under a load. It was one step below the air adjusting shocks.
I think they sent u the wring springs the rt ones would have been 2 to 3 inches higher
Have you looked into replacing the body mount bushings? I came to your channel to find a video on replacing them.
No, I haven't. Is that a normal wear item? I haven't heard of that.
1ROAD I’ve been doing a lot of research of improving ride quality in my Silverado and it seems to be an obvious replacement to improve ride quality. There are a few videos on UA-cam but none as detailed and informative as your install videos.
@@aaronborden4490 interesting I'll look into it Thanks
Do you have any experience or comment with the Arnott shocks. I’m torn between Bilstiens vs Arnotts for our 2002 Escalade. Just came back from a camping trip and well family got motions sickness since id never had any suspension issues until this trip, when I loaded the cargo rack and rear basket with camping gear and the first 5 min on the road trip car was swaying horribly. So need the best shocks for comfort but also extra heavy duty for carrying the extra weight. Your feed back is extremely appreciated. Love your detailed videos
Did you ever figure out about your suspension parts. I have Arnott in my 07 yukon. I didnt like the ride much. But I have nothing to compare it too. I bought my truck used and the original was blown
With my ram 1500 bilstein 5100 front shocks are ajustable with a snap ring and my original fron spring . i have a 1inch block in the back and the front is at 1.6 inch , my next step ill buy the back 1.5 inch lift spring and new ready lift upper control arm to raise the fron to 2 inch .
Those are struts, these are shocks. Similar, but different in that the Spring and shock are one unit making it a "strut".
so 5100 will lift the car or just same height as 4600?
I’ve got the same on our 05 avalanche 4x4, and we love them but I’m looking into a stronger, stiffer spring for when weighing down the truck or towing our covered trailer. Towing about 2500-4000 lbs any ideas I’d greatly appreciate
Any Luck??? Looking for the same thing.
Let me guess Next how to replace front shocks on ur 03 envoy!
Lol.
day late dollar short buddy. this is the sexond video
If you can show the diference how many inches go up than the oem original springs
What size are the rims on your truck? They're really nice looking stock rims
HG Sam772 18’s
ate you able to tell me the length of those springs because the ones that I looked up to fit my 05tahoe Lt says 199021 instead 199020
Will this work the same on 2003 escalade? i believe suburbans
and tahoe has the same assembly
Should have measured the vehicle height before and after, Great video though
I recently changed the shocks on my suburban. I bought standard shock because it had standard shocks on it. Now I looked in the glove box and it has the zw7 rpo code but it had normal shocks on it and doesn't appear to be sagging in the back. Do you think someone already changed the springs? 🤔
Yeah i hate when the rubber hat falls off cause then you gotta worry if you'll be paying for it the next 18 years.
Where did u order your suspension. I have a 03 Tahoe that i want to replace tue front and rear suspension. Great videk tho 👊
He’s very picky
I am
I’m kinda the same way
According to their website my 2003 Chevy suburban takes the 4600 rear shocks but I notice You put different rear shocks on yours do you know what the differences between the 2?
you are correct sir 5100 is for lifted 4600 is stock to two inch lift
Just a follow up Jimmy, I’m just over a year and a half with this exact setup on my 02 suburban and I’ve noticed that I’m starting to get a little bit of sway on the Highway. Any thoughts? I’m starting to think the 5100’s are starting to fail cause of the weight..
So do u think they will work on a 04 Chevy Tahoe
Why did you put the shock in boot up ? If you get a hole in the boot, crap sits on the seal ?
going to be replacing the front and rears on 2014 suburban. any suggestions? I prefer not to have ride height change. if it was 2-3 inches higher i would not care but just don't want sag.
Did you feel any bumps or did you feel vibration through your steering wheel once u hit bumps?
I have a question guys i liked this vid i have original air ride in my 03 yukon denali xl i wanna change to conventional shocks and springs front/rear im thinking on bilsteins 5100 and 4600 whats the difference 5100s can work better or is for lifted vehicles also bilteins or other brand springs are etter?
Will this new combo work on 08 avalanche?
Any issues in terms of the warning messages to "service autoride" on the dashboard since installing these?
Gotta 05 z71 gonna put the 2inch torsion keys in 5100 bil shocks&springs but my question is have you had any real weight in the truck/ family loaded vacation weight that's where you'll really know how well they preform? (Reason I'm asking is, that's what I use my truck for) please let me know you were please with the weighted down 4100's
I'd say it will sag. This is why I left my nivomats in my yukon. I put 4600 in the front and left the rear stock. I've loaded mine with over 1k pounds in the rear and could not get it to come down.
Ps:I must get SHOCKS for my 2015 Dodge Journey FWD SE, L4 soon,, Actually always used Monroe Best for 40 years : on my GMC CONYON 2007 RWD 4 Cylinder, SE; and still nice ten years later,,,,,,,with Studded winter tires also.... suggestions Journey???
Just put the 5100's on my Tahoe yesterday and in my opinion.... They are over rated. No drastic change,truck sits a little higher and you FOR SURE will hear the springs in the back when going over bumps slow!!! NOT IMPRESSED AT ALL!!!
Woulda been nice if you took some before and after measurements to see if it lifted the rear any
It did lift the rear some. Waiting a bit to see if it settles down. Will make a video about that...
@@1RoadGarage so is it higher than 36 5/8" now in the rear? My 06 Yukon has 125K miles and the rear self leveling shocks are still good. I've loaded the rear with fire wood and that thing barely went down.
Not to be a Debbie downer but why didn't you keep the bolt in from the same side 🤔just something i noticed
Did I hear some some noises when you went over the speed bump? When the coils reload it sounds like they squeak??
rickfx xzc stevenson🤔 Definitely heard that at 7:03 😂😂
Mr 1Road you think the 5100 bil shocks work with the 99 chevy suburban
The amazon link is saying these domt fit my 03 z71
Will these springs work with a 2004 Yukon xl
what do you have for front shocks? is your suburban a FWD or 4WD?
I did the same upgrade to by 03 avalanche 2wd. The nimovats were blown and total death traps. Worthless.
How is the ride after changing to bilstein shocks..??
Hello folks i got a question i have a 2005 chevy suburban with the air ride shocks and compressor. But i want to eliminate the air ride can i get these 5100 shocks and springs to convert please get back at me
Hello from belgium,
I have a 2007 ltz suburban z55 suspension and want to change rear suspension. I understand that : if choose 4600 bilstein not need to change rear spring and if choose 5100 I need to change rear spring ?
Exact ? ? ?
Hey I bought an old truck with lift kits but I think my shoes are the wrong ones how do I know witch ones are the right ones
My 03 tahoe has the auto ride suspension, and the rear shocks are shot and very expensive to replace, will this set up work on mine? Is that the same factory suspension your suburban had?
I think u dont have to ins.. new spring for rear.
By the way....why there is no spring in front..What makes the front axle flexible without spring ... amazing thing.🤔
My car is tahoe 2006 4x4
A torsion bar, made of spring steel, is used in place of coil springs.