Shock Comparison: Bilstein 4600 vs Bilstein 5100
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- Опубліковано 23 тра 2022
- You can't go wrong with Bilstein shocks. Quality and performance are a given with this brand. But, when you should chose a higher performance shock versus just a factory replacement? We discuss the differences between Bilstein's entry level 4600 shock and the 5100 which is the next level up.
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I put the 5100s all the way around on my 2021 Trail Boss last year and couldn’t be happier. We’ve been offroading, on a 3500 mile trip pulling a 6K camper trailer, hauled cattle, hay etc and worked hard.
thanks for the feedback
I just had the 4600's installed on my '14 tacoma with 160k miles. What a difference! It feels like stock plus 40% better to me.
love to hear it, did you have the factory yellow bilstein twin tubes?
@@ShockSurplus I'm not sure of the terminology, but they are the monotubes. They are yellow/blue. They replaced the old stock ones.
Some Tacomas came with a factory OEM Toyota x Bilstein shock that looks similar to a Bilstein n4600 but were not the same.
@@ShockSurplus Ohh! No sir, they were not those.
Good information, thank you. I need to replace the shocks in my 98 Tacoma TRD Limited. I do not take it off-road often and I was thinking about the 5100. After watching this video it appears that I would be overdoing it (?). Should the rear leafs be replaced too? The truck does sag, I would like to correct that. Thank you for your response.
Carlos.
Very informative, thank you. I just ordered the 4600s from you guys. Can't wait!
awesome, love to hear it
@@ShockSurplus Wow. So much difference especially in big pot holes and bumps. My Suburban 2006 z71 drives so smooth now. Plus, I went for a long trip today and for the first time ever, I got home with zero fatigue. Thanks for an outstanding product.
This is what I was looking for. Thank you
Glad we could help
Perfect explanation on the Bilsteins! Ran the 4600's on the rear of both of my 4Runners with just a 1inch lift and up one tire size and never had any issues.
The pleasure is all ours! We are glad that you are enjoying the Bilstein 4600.
This is a great video. Really help me decide what shocks to get thank you very much!
nice, which ones you thinking? Hopefully we can get you dialed in
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4600 most likely
Just ordered the 5100s for the front end of my 2004 Silverado, excited
love to hear it
I just installed the 5100s on my ‘19 Tacoma front and rear. You can definitely tell the difference. The ride is so much nicer. I’m pretty happy with these.
great to hear!
@@ShockSurplusHello , k was recommended 5100 on a small 1994 tacoma single cab because of the 2.5” lift but i thought they feel kind of stiff on the truck
Do you think they too much for such light tuck?
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! GREAT VIDEO AND EDUCATION. I LEARNED SO MUCH!!!
Glad it was helpful!
Great info , thank you
Glad it was helpful!
I Installed the 5100 on my 2016 4Runner and I love how it rides over the stock for under $500. Highly suggested for the cost and ease of installation.
thanks for the feedback
helpful thank you
I bought my 2016 Tundra CrewMax TRD Limited used with 100k miles. The OEM shocks were pretty spent by then. I opted for the 4600's over the 5100's simply because I had the 5100's on my 2006 SR5 and they were overkill on that truck. The 4600's lasted two years and 25k of driving and towing before the passenger side rear gave up on the 2016. It's always that corner with a Tundra BTW. I always felt they were just marginal for this truck anyway. Today I installed the rear 5100's I just got from Shock Surplus (FAST free shipping, $25 internet coupon!) They suit the 2016Tundra very well. Doing fronts soon.
Definitely looking to replace my the Rancho's that came with my truck with these. The Rancho's are 20 years old, and you can tell they've had better days. I put new tires on yesterday that were the proper OEM size- made a world of difference, but I need to replace the shocks to make sure those tires make it to 65K miles, haha.
There are a lot more companies that produce amazing shocks compared to 20 years ago.
@@ShockSurplus As far as Rancho's go, I get a bit confused with what RS5000 to get- my truck is an "off road" FX4 F150 (2003). I can't find anything as to whether or not if it was leveled/lifted at the factory, so I'm not sure if I need the 0-1" or if I need taller shocks? The shocks on there are so rusted that part#'s are pretty much gone. I'm leaning more towards the Bilsteins, but if I can do the rancho's again- I'd definitely do it. I like that you guys bundle them together to kind of take some of the guesswork out. Thanks!
You can measure each shock from mount to mount on a level surface. This gives you roughly 40-50% compression. You can then plug those measurements into the shock information we have. That number should be roughly centered on the fully extended and fully compressed measurements. You're ok to lose some extended and get more compress travel but you want to aim to be close to even as possible.
Update, I went with the Bilstein 4600 thanks to this video and other reviews . I am really impressed with them and after I replace more of my suspension components I should be in a good place with a controlled, safe ride. They are great on gravel, washboard roads just the same as our nasty pothole laden, rough city streets we have here in the midwest. Great for towing as well! Do you guys only sell truck shocks, or do you carry shocks for passenger cars as well? I'd definitely put a set of Bilstein shocks/struts in my Ford Focus....well worth the extra cost!
I put 4600s on my 99 4Runner with a set of Old Man Emu 2” springs out back and stock springs in front. The spring perch was much high than stock. Only needed a 1/4” spacer up front to level it.
Everything is different and also pays in a role with what kind of a build one has. Anything that adds weight, including hauling and towing can effect the height.
How’s the ride?
@@eugeniojimenez7268 very good. Handles better than stock
Hey guys. Liking this channel. I appreciate how you guys explain things, good job. Anyways, I have a LR Defender and based on this video I've decided what shocks I'm going to switch to so thanks. The stock shocks are still good though but the bushings/rubbers are shot so I'll just replace those in the interim. My question is, what's the difference between the regular black rubbers and the yellow polyurethane ones?
Bushings can be one of two, 1 just different colors or 2 different strengthen or hardness.
I’m trying to lift a 2006 Toyota Corolla 2” to clear some slightly larger tires, and gain ground clearance. I live in an area prone to mudslides and got a free beater to smash around some of these obstacles. I’m planning for other mods like a lsd and skid plates / winch / bumper….
i have a set of 4600's on my 2005 suburban and they made it handle better( especially body roll) and provide a great ride. On the flip side i installed a set of 4600's on my 2006 2500hd and they are harsh and choppy when not loaded with weight. Im sure the weight of the suburban keeps the stiffness at bay. But on the pickup i would probably go with a shock that is not as stiff as the 4600's.
To be fair the 2006 2500hd is just stiff riding truck no matter the shock in the back. My 2020 2500hd Duramax rides so much smoother with the factory Ranchos. The trade off is Porpoising while pulling a trailer over large smooth bumps a highway speeds and minimal body roll on turns. From researching tires can play a huge roll in ride comfort. All my tires are LT load range E i keep them around 50-60 psi (40psi on the 2006 2500hd) I recently bought Goodyear Duratrac RT tires for my 2020 they are Quiet, they dont wonder on bad roads wet, rain, snow traction is great! , So i will be looking into finding a shock that still rides smooth but cuts down on the porposing on my 2020. Any suggestions for that would be greatly appreciated. I hope this sheds some light on shock selection for someone. Your videos are great, real world testing is much more helpful. Keep it up!
I occasionally max out my payload by hauling gravel, bricks, etc. in my stock 2017 TRD sport. It's pretty close to level now but I'd like the bed to be slightly higher than the front so that it rides level when I haul, instead of squatting like it does now. If I add a new leaf pack in the future that raises the bed a bit, will the 4600s allow for that? Or should I install 4600s up front and 5100s in the back?
We would suggest running 5100 all around. That'll overall ride more equal as they're tuned to be in conjunction with that same series. However there is no right or wrong, and it's still ultimately up to you.
I’ve used the 4600’s on my suburban 2500, but just ordered a set of 5100 for my Silverado 2500hd for the look.
Both are great options.
I am thinking I want to sent back the 5100s and get some 4600s. 5100’s are super rough.
4600 are an OEM replacement while 5100 are a step above that for entry level performance and towing/hauling needs.
How's the ride quality on the 5100? Is your truck lifted?
Question: I bought a set of Fox 2.0 Performance shocks for my '21 Ram Power Wagon from you guys on Black Friday. I have yet to install due to crazy work schedule and home remodel. I found your comments on the 5100 interesting as I upgraded to 35" tires on my truck. I bought the new shocks because of the constant vibrations and jarring feeling while driving on the concrete roads in Houston. Are the Fox 2.0 shocks comparable to the 5100 shocks in regards to controlling the added unsprung weight? Just want to get a bit smoother ride quality. Thanks!
Fox 2.0 provides a softer feeling for daily and firms up when you're off-roading or rather when the suspension is cycling aggressively on the trails.
Bilstein is better for towing and is slightly firmer feeling over Fox 2.0
The stock ranchos on my King Ranch were smoother than the 4600s I ordered, wish I gotten the 5100
4600s and 5100s will feel almost identical. What you call smooth, some call mushy, but to each their own. When we ran Rancho, the ride was too soft and boaty for what we like
What type of rancho shocks were they?
I'm replacing my taco shocks to the 4600 , ..i daily commute only and want to keep stock height. What front coilvers do you recommend with the 4600 upgrade
Glad I found this video. I currently have a 2015 f150 and I want to replace rear shocks front is done. I have a 2 in level on front and rear is factory height. Only other thing I did is went with a 34in tire from a 33. I don’t tow much or anything so would 4600 work for me with a slightly larger tire and stock ride height in rear?
4600 are a direct OEM replacement while 5100 are a step above that. 5100 are more a towing/hauling shocks and we personally prefer this over the 4600
@@ShockSurplus I have a 2015 gmc Sierra 1500 1/2 ton want to install the 5100 I tow a boat and a trailer no lift but run 33” x11.5 tires I know the tires are a lot heavier than stock. Should I use the 5100’s?
Great video. Very informative. Question though.
I have a Tacoma TRD-OR with shocks that are slightly smaller than the 4600s. If I get a hard topper on my bed, should I upgrade to the regular 4600s or do anything with my suspension? I like having a plush, non bouncy ride since I stay on the construction filled streets.
We would probably skip out the 4600 and go to the 5100 or the 6112 setup.
looking to upgrade my 1997 chevy 3 door z 71 5.7 stock from factory wondering which shock to go with for front and rear ?
Thank you for the video. I'm thinking I could get away with the 4600's for my 2002 Chevy 2500HD Duramax. It's not lifted by I do have a leveling kit on it with factory size tires and wheels. Blistein website said 4600 on the front and 5100 on the rear. What are your thoughts?
A leveling kit still lifts the vehicle. Depends n how it was lifted and how much it was lifted by. Please contact our sales team directly for assistance.
New to this. Question. Am I to understand you can get a lift on your vehicle with the 5100 application with out leaf spring, spacers or by other traditional means etc? But not the 4600 because it lacks the grooved rings?
correct. not all vehicles can achieve lift with the 5100 series though, only independent front suspension applications with coilovers in the front
I have a stock Jku sahara. I’m thinking fox 2.0 or 4600. But Im also wondering what my other options are. Falcons, or something else? Also, I was hoping to get some insight on what rebuilding the fox shocks requires.
Thanks.
If it is stock and you are not wheeling it much or very hard, go with the 4600s. To rebuild a Fox or any other serviceable shock, the parts need to be removed, and fully disassembled so that the seals, oil, and gas be replaced.
I want to play with a mazda Cx-30, so I was thinking on buy the hgr liftkit and change the suspension in order to fit a better off road tires
HRG makes good stuff for sure but if you actually want to increase performance so it is actually decent off road rather than just taller to fit some tires I would recommend taking a look at the Flatout Suspension catalog
I’ve heard Bilstein is better than rancho. I’m looking to get new shocks for my 2002 Frontier. It’s fine on the highway but city streets with potholes is a rough ride 😂
I have 2012 chevy 1500 on 2" leveling kit and I'm ready to upgrade struts and shocks. I am also considering lifting it an additional inch in the frint and back. Would the 4600 or 5100 be better?
We suggest running the Bilstein 5100 over the Bilstein 4600.
Have a 2016 sierra 2wd, stock ride height. Replacing rear shocks. Do tow camper and run little wider tire. Would 4600 still be better than 5100? Thanks
Thank you for the informative video!
Question, 2022 Ram Laramie Sport, crew cab, 5' 7" box, 5.7 hemi, 4x4.
I would like to increase front ride height by 1", go from a 32" tire to 33", thus helping out lower 3.92 final drive.
Drawn to 3100 for best ride and comfort, I do off road, is this an achievable thing with 3100 or would or should I go to 5100?
Thank You,
John
There is not 3100 series. There are 4600, 5100, 5160, 6112, 8112 and 8100 for direct vehicle fitment. 4600 - OEM replacements. Bisltein 5100 - Towing and hauling. 5160 - Towing, hauling, and off-roading. 6112 - strut only, jack of all trades. 8112 and 8100 - full off roading
I have a 2010 Dodge 2500 4wd, no lift but I am running 315 / 70R16 tires. I pull a 32 ft 12,000 lbs 5th wheel camper and a 25ft gooseneck used to haul hay and my tractor around 5000 lbs. Which would be better for me, the 4600's or the 5100's?
The Bilstein 5100 would be better for your need as they are a towing and hauling shock. Bilstein 4600 are an OE replacement setup. Those would be more towards how the factory shock were on your vehicle.
I like the zinc plated compared to the yellow painted but I dont have any lift on my truck it is just the factory height but I prefer to use the zinc plated,as a matter of fact the colour of the shocks that I have on the truck now is yellow and I don't like it most especially because of the colour,I prefer something like black or something dark.Will it be possible to use the zinc plated and not give me any problem.
We linked you the Bilstein 5100 in a previous comment.
I use the 5100’s!
Great choice!
I’ve got an 88 4Runner with IFS up front and 33” tires all around. I’ve got OME leafs and 4600 in the rear and looking to level out the front without cranking the f out of the torsion bars. Can I use 5100s without a BJ spacer?
What leaf pack did you get in terms of the specifications it provides, height and weight capacity? Please contact our sales team directly for assistance via email or phone number. Both can be found on our website.
I tried to find a comment mentioning a 2nd gen Tacoma (2005) so my apologies of I’m doubling up. So 4.0 4x4 Off-Road that’s mostly stock. It has the supercharger but I doubt that impacts what shock to use. It has the stock bilsteins on there but I’m looking to upgrade since at 149k miles I think they’re still original. I’m leaning towards 5100 mainly because of the great things I’ve heard. I don’t haul anything, nor do I go off-roading much (but I want to change that!). Which would you recommend? Thank you for a great video!
It really depends on what your want to build this to. Bilstein 5100 is a good starting point but they are not as capable as other products if you're planning to build this into an off-road focused rig. Please contact our sales team directly and give us some more information so we can help steer you in the right direction.
@@ShockSurplus do all bilstein shocks 5100 come with an opening by the bushing on top and bottom?
Can I run a 2” level kit in the front of a 07 Tahoe with the bilstein 4600s? Or do they not have enough travel?
Question. Have 2007 2500 hd nbs 2wd with only a few turns of the keys, maybe 1" lift and 285's. Will 4600 work with the 1" lift or is 5100's needed. Are the 5100's allowable from stock height to 1 to 2" height? Thanks
Would the 4” 5100 work if I have a 3” block in the back of my f150? My stocks feel like they’re topping out on certain bumps when I am turning going slow
I was thinking of installing a 2” level kit on my ‘06 Tundra because of a front end hitch I have on it. Will the 5100s improve my front end dynamics?
gaining the height from the 5100 shocks in the front will firm up the front handling response with that extra weight. On stock it may be squishy with that extra weight, and with the bilstein it'll tighten up.
Hi so I just seen your video and notice at the end u stated if your looking more for a smoother ride it’s the 4600 shocks. So I have a 2016 gmc Sierra crew cab 2wd. I bought it used and I believe it’s not standard height as far as some type of lift it may have. Does that mean even though I may want a smoother ride…if it does have a lift you would recommend the 5100 shocks? Because I noticed the trucks u mentioned suitable for the 5100 were more of the heavy duty style/2500/diesel…. Please help me out here? Thank you in advance
We would go with 5100 if you're lifted. It varies on application
Thanks for this comparison.
Im looking at one of these for my new rig which is giving me a less than stellar ride. I have a stock height 2022 GMC Sierra 3500 HD Diesel - with the X31 package - which I will use 50/50 to carry my 3100lb camper. I presently experience a bit of porpoising after installing replacement overloads.
Thoughts? Thanks
Bilstein 4600 is an OEM replacement strictly for stock height and using the vehicle mainly as a daily driver. Bilstein 5100 are a towing and hauling shock and better tuned and valved for that.
@@ShockSurplus Hi there. I watched the video again and wow it is full of subtle and very good info !!
It has also helped me understand that I am probably headed in the right direction to fix my suspension woes.
What I took away from your comments on the 5100 was that lifted vehicles often have modified wheels/tires that add to the unsprung weight of the truck. The different valving and shock damping in the 5100s deals better with this additional unsprung weight. I am also guessing that demands from hauling and towing have the same need for a shock like the 5100s.
I remember hearing (from an engineer friend) a while ago that dealing with unsprung weight is often the "Holy Grail"of truck (and car) suspension engineers.
Keep up the great videos guys that are well explained !! Also good on you for pronouncing their German name properly !
The pleasure is all ours. We are really glad to hear you are enjoying our content!
Yeah there's a lot that goes into the suspension and get very technical. We try to keep it as informative but not too complex.
Very informative video. Is there any different varients in 5100 shocks ? as I have a 2 inch block at the rear. so was wondering if its just Blisten 5100 I need to look for that 2 inch lift or is there any particular 5100 series I need for that extra lift in the rear. I heard 5100 have some particular part number shock which I would need. Please advice. Its a GMC Sierra 1500, 2014
For some vehicles, 5100 are available in various lift heights. For your 2014 GMC Sierra 1500, there is only 1 version.
@@ShockSurplus Thnak you for answering my question.
Hi, I have 2017 Titan Pro4x with stock Bilstein shocks (not sure what series, although they are yellow. 4600?). My ride always been somehow rough even driving on uneven road. I was thinking of upgrading my shocks to get smoother ride on the road. I very rarely go offroading and don't want to lift it more than it is (1" factory "lift"). Any suggestions? Thanks a lot!
When it comes uneven roads, unpaved roads, towing/hauling, and off-roading, the suspension needs to be firmer so that it handles the overall weight well. When the suspension is soft or even too soft, you will get this loose feeling as if you're not 100% in control of your vehicle. You also get a Pro4X which Nissan considered is their entry level off-road set up that's close to being like the TRD Off-Road.
We can get your shocks that are softer but note, you'll less capable in everything else.
If I have about a 1.5 inch lift on my 2005 ford ranger which setup should I go with?
Our 1996 2500 Cummins Dodge p/u Auto, 2 wheel drive club cab long box independent front sus. with 150,000 Km. I bought it new with complete factory trailer package. Tr Hitch & HD springs. No raised kits, it’s all stock. Installed double air bags rear since new.
I'm having diving/rocking for and aft problems hauling my 8000lb 30ft trailer. Have had Monroes on it but don’t last as long as they should. People are recommending Bilsteins 4600 series 24-184847 ’s for front and 24-184854 for rears. Can you confirm that this is best, only one or a good match for my truck. Thank you.
Got a 1986 Chevy K20 stock height with leaf springs on all four. Which Bilstein shocks do you recommend?
Bilstein only offers the 4600 for your vehicle for a stock height. If you have a 3-4" lift then you can run the Bilstein 5100.
I’ve got a 2017 F350 crew cab long bed with 150k with the stock Rancho shocks that is leveled running stock tires. I don’t do any off roading. I want to replace the shocks but not sure what to replace them with. I do pull a ski boat, any suggestions? I’ve been told put the 4600’s on the front and RS9000XL on the rear. After watching your video I’m wondering if I should do the 5100’s on the front instead?
If you use this truck to tow or haul anything, then run the Bilstein 5100. It is a 2-2.5" front shocks and 0-1" rear shock.
I want to change the shocks on my 2004 Ford F 350 SuperDuty Lariat Dually Diesel Crew Cab and I want to use a very powerful brand.Which one do you recommend that I use.I will really appreciate this because I have been trying to do this for a long time but I have not been able to get somebody to advice me on it. I will like the one that is strong and poweful with all necessary applications considered .
Bilstein offer a 0-2.5" shock that would work with your vehicle. This is going to make it feel firmer and designed for towing and hauling.
www.shocksurplus.com/products/bilstein-5100-monotube-gas-shocks-set-1999-2004-ford-f-350-4wd
I have an 05 xterra that I hear some popping when I hit potholes. I noticed that the protective boot is cracked. New to off roading. I have 5100s on there now but was not the one that purchased them. My xterra is very heavy with around a 4.5 inch lift. Im referring to my driver from shock. Should I replace it and if so what 5100 should I buy. I see a bunch of 0-3 in rated 5100s but nothing that say 4-5 inch.
There's nothing for a 4-5" lift. from us. The 0-3" would not work as it's too short. Please link us the lift kit that you own or let us know the Brand.
My truck is 2018 F150 stock height but we pull a 30 rv. With the extra tongue weight do you recommend the 5100’s?
We have tested 5100 on multiple vehicles towing trailers, rv, and toy haulers. The 5100 seem to hold up quite well for towing.
For a 2019 Silverado Trail Boss would it be recommended for the 4600 or 5100 since it comes with a factory 2” block lift?
For the Trail Boss trim, there are specific parts. You are only able to use Bilstein 5100 (2 x 24-309509 and 2 x 24-309516) or Bilstein 6112 (1 x 47-309524). You can also upgrade the rear to the Bilstein 5160 (2 x 25-316964)
so if I want to put 5100s on a 04 ford ranger would a 3 inch lift kit be good ?
5100 on my leveled F150 0-1 inch lift
I have a 2013 tacoma 4x4 and do some aggressive forest service road on occasion getting to deer hunting apota. Will the 4600 be a good option or should i get something with more dampening like the 5100s? I dont really need a lift and prefer stock height.
I would lean towards the 5100s for that use case. The front struts can be adjusted to stock height and the rear shocks work at stock height as well so if you do not want a lift, they will still work well.
I have a 99 Jeep Cherokee XJ with a 3” Rough Country lift. The RC shocks that come with the lift kit are to be desired. I ordered the 5100s. I daily my jeep and seldom hit trails. The RC lift is very harsh over bumps in the road and streets. I’m hoping that the 5100s help with the jarring. Any thoughts? Thank you for the video. God bless you and yours In Jesus Name my friend!
The 5100s should be a big help. Usually the RC springs are pretty decent, they just do not do the best job of valving their shocks, so a good upgrade like those 5100s should do wonders for both comfort and control.
@@ShockSurplus awesome! Thanks
Would the 5100 still be good with just a 1 1/2 inch spacer in the front of a 05 Sierra or should I still opt for the 4600? I did already replace oem shock with a RC shock but I hope these ride better
Depends on your vehicle. 2005 GMC Sierra but what Sierra? 1500, 2500, 3500?
@@ShockSurplus 1500
I have a 2018 F250. 100% stock. I do pull a 28 ft camper in season, but this is also my daily driver. I like the 5100 color better than the 4600 yellow. But in the video it seemed the 5100 is only for lifted trucks, will the 5100 work for my stock height or should I get the 4600? Appreciate the help!
You can run the Bilstein 5100. For the 2018 Ford F250, the 4600 and 5100 are almost the same specs for compressed and extended where the extended is lightly longer by less than 1/2". We would run the Bilstein 5100 in your case.
I have a 2018 f150 and I would like to know if I can use b8 5100 stock
I recently bought a 2009 Chevrolet Silverado 2500hd 6.0l with a snowplow at stock height in with factory shock and I was thinking about Bilstein but wonder if I should go with 5100s?
4600s are for stock height, 5100s are for lifted vehicles. Basically the same shock, get whichever works for your ride height.
I have a 2016 Ram 1500 and I need rear shocks!! The truck sits level and that's the way I bought it!! It has some kind of kit but I have no idea what it is! Any suggestions would help!! Thanks!!
Contact our sales team directly and we'll help you figure out how much lift you have and what parts will work.
www.shocksurplus.com/pages/contact-us
Good info bro hey I got 1996 ford bronco with 2" lift which belstain shocks struts would be best for it? Thanks
That would be our go to but Bilstein only offers a 4" and 6" version in their 5100 iteration. Then they have a stock height with their Bilstein 4600.
I got a f250 super Duty and I want it to rid softer but still have heavy load on it
I have an 2020 F250 super duty, currently riding factory height with factory tire size eventually would like to put bigger tires on it after the extended warranty runs out would you recommend a 4600 or 5100 for better ride quality on the road with occasional towing?
Stick with the 4600s at factory height and with factory wheels and tires. The 5100 will work, but be slightly firmer
My Tundra has the heavier "E" rated tires. So, I mounted the 5100s. It is definitely a jouncier ride versus the stock OEM shocks that had 90,000 miles on them.
Jouncier?
@@legion1630 it's more rigid ride with the definite need to air down off road - or - on a New Orleans neighborhood street.
@@andrewinaustintx Ha ha! N.O. = worst roads in America!
Do you regret getting the 5100s? I am on the same boat. Have the E rated tires and will be needing to replace shocks soon and was thinking the 5100s but after seeing your comment I’m not sure anymore
@@kcast005 No regrets. - I live in a city with lots of pot holes. With the E rated all terrain tires inflated to 38 to 40 lbs PSI - I definitely feel the bumps more after the Bilstein install.
I am looking at buying the 5100 for a 2018 Silverado 2500. I want to level the truck. Do I order the 0” and shock spacers or the 4-6” shocks? What’s the difference? I plan on replacing upper control arms too.
You would need to buy a leveling kit first, we don't offer any leveling kits for this vehicle. You would need to then buy the correct front shocks that are the same length as however high you're doing the leveling kit. It could be 2" front and 0" rear, 2.5" front and 0" rear, or 3" front and 1" rear, or 4" front and 2" rear and etc.
I’ve got a 2018 4wd F150 with stock 33s that never goes off-road. Looking for the smoothest ride and to help calm the rear end. Would you recommend the 4600 or the 5100?
4600/5100 will ride near identical, imperceptible to most drivers. I would look at Eibach pro truck for your F150, a bit smoother than Bilstein in terms of bump compliance (softness), delivers great handling. Not knocking Bilstein at all, they've got superior handling, but some people dislike how firm the bump/pothole response is.
www.shocksurplus.com/products/eibach-pro-truck-sport-strut-shocks-set-for-2016-2023-ford-f150-rwd-w-0-2-5-lift
Can I reuse stock coils? Also does your 4 piece shock come with everything I need?
Both 4600 and 5100 are designed to be used with the factory OEM springs.
I have a 2019 Chevy Silverado, 3500 diesel and I live in Northwest where we get lots of snow and rain. My truck is also stock on right height. Will the 5100 work for my truck. I looked it up and it says I can use both.
You can run either one, they're near identical, the 5100 may be a tad firmer
Thanks for the information, have a slightly lifted Wrangler JK, thinking about changing out the Rubicon shocks on there now, might try the Bilstein 5100 series, want a better street ride quality. I think the Jeep is too heavy with the front and rear steel bumpers, winch and spare tire.
Yeah if you have extra weight on the front, the Bilstein would be a good option for the extra handling.
www.shocksurplus.com/products/bilstein-5100-monotube-gas-shocks-set-2007-2018-jeep-wrangler-4wd-w-1-5-3-lift-jk
So the 5100s will not fit stock and for lifted only? Did I understand that correctly? My understanding was you could raise a vehicle with the ride height adjustment up to 2". I was hoping to get 5100s on stock suspension and rais 0.5-1" for a larger tire...
It depends on application. If you have coil over strut suspension from the factory like the front of most modern midsize and half ton trucks and SUVs you can use 5100 ride height adjustable struts to lift the vehicle. In most cases on vehicles where the damper is separate of the spring system like a 3/4 and 1 Ton trucks or Jeeps, you generally need to already have a lift with the 5100s as the shock can not lift the vehicle on its own. With that said there are some 5100s for applications like those that will fit at stock height.
I have a 1997 f250 Light duty with a leveling kit and 33s , don't really do any crazy off roading just some beat up dirt roads . Should I go with the 5100s or 4600s thank you?.
4600s unless its lifted, then you need the 5100s. Sometimes the 5100s are too firm, so the Rancho RS7MTs may be better suited, they're softer overall.
My mechanic installed 5100's on my 4" lifted 02 Silverado 1500HD 4x4. After watching this video, I'm glad he made that choice for me.
That is awesome!
Have any idea why new Billsteins 5100 with oe spring at stock height would make ny 2010 nissan xterra bounce all over the road. The OE shocks with 20OK miles rode awesome, I was upgrading to since it was time, but couldnt recommend these to anyone. Help with any recommendations. I have new Baja Boss tires at 35 psi and rode great before the install.
We can you into ARB springs that would work with the Bilstein 5100. ARB 2607 will provide 1.5" and for stock weight load. ARB 2608 will provide you 1.5" and is a Heavy Duty springs for 110+ lbs. of front end constant weight.
If they're extended for a lifted vehicle they won't ride properly on a stock one. My Silverado rode like ass with 2" lift 5100s on it until I cranked up the torsion keys.
I have a factory height 2500 with a flatbed on it. Should I go 5100 or 4600?
Installed the 5100s on my 2019 Silverado LT, 4WD, 5.3 engine, crew cab, short bed. Handles so much better now. BUT< I have one major issue. I lost a LOT of ride height with them! I used the lowest lock ring position to get stock height as instructed, but it is now at least 3 inches lower in front, measured at the front bumper at the same reference point each time. I moved the lock ring up two notches and only gained 1-1/2" more height.
Has anybody else experienced this? Everything I have read or seen in videos says that the lower ring position should have given me stock ride height, and each notch above that should give about an inch of lift. What am I missing?
Think we just responded to your email on this but it sounds like you are running the strut from a 2014-2018 truck or a 2019 LD model instead of part number 24-293297
I have a 2005 GMC Sierra 4WD that is leveled with torsion bars and running 285 tires. Would the 4600 or 5100 series be better for my application? My current factory Rancho shocks with front extenders are getting pretty bumpy.
5100s are the way to go. They have lengths available for lifted and leveled applications and they are specifically tuned to better cope with the additional unsprung mass of bigger tires.
I am replacing my Rancho shocks on my 2012 F-250 FX4 with Air lift air bags on the rear with Bilstein shocks. Which shock should I replace my ranchos with Bilstein 5100 stock or or 0 to 2in lift? Please advise.
You would want this kit here:
www.shocksurplus.com/products/bilstein-5100-monotube-gas-shocks-set-2005-2016-ford-f250-super-duty-4wd
I have a nissan frontier 4x4 2008 everything factory im looking into the bilstein shocks but i was wondering if those are good for heavy lifting i carry lots of sheetrock and wood and I don’t know much about cars but I’ve seen these on the pro 4x
For you work truck, we would run Bilstein 5100 which are designed for towing and hauling.
@@ShockSurplus dang I went ahead and purchased the yellow ones the sheetrock is not all the time its occasional but hopefully those will last
I have a 2006 Dodge Ram 2500 diesel, 4-wheel drive quad cab. No lift or leveling. I occasionally pull a 27' travel trailer to the mountains. Occasional gravel roads but maybe 5%. I changed from the stock 17" tires and wheels to stock 18" from a newer model. (rims were better looking) Tires are 275/70R18. Load range E. Which shock would you recommend, 4600 or 5100?
With everything you've described, and remaining at factory height, go with the 4600s.
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I have a 2001 Toyota Sequoia limited 4wd with 274k miles. This rig is our daily driver/family trip vehicle. It mostly sees highway but we live in rural area and travels gravel roads. We also go to Colorado 3 or 4 times a year and like to go on some trails. I'm thinking 4600 in the rear and 5100 in the front (wife wants her SUV leveled). Would this be too stiff of a ride for gravel roads and highway? Thank you!
Bilstein will be firmer and are designed or towing and hauling. We prefer running all the same shocks all around but you can run any front and any rear that you deem suits your need specifically.
@@ShockSurplus I have 1997 Toyota Tacoma EXT 4x4 2.7l , what setup of shocks should I go with ? I drive more on the freeway but ACCASIONALLY in the mountains nothing too crazy
Just bought a truck that has a lift I believe it’s 6” but I’m not 100% sure. The shocks are needing replacing just wondering how you figure out what size you need and what would be a good brand option for a on and off road kinda of unit?
Go to their website. It's a pretty good website that lays it out nice and easy. I believe the 5100 series can be used with a 6 inch lift
I have 2015 sierra with a two inch level kit and larger tires. If I were to upgrade to the 5100 should I leave the snap ring at the zero setting and leave the level installed
Definitely not. The combined length of the 5100 and the spacer will be too long for pretty much everything else in your front end. If you do not want to drop to 1.85" of lift with the 5100s at the maximum setting, then I would recommend going for the Eibach Pro Truck Sport leveling struts which are very similar but are capable of 2" of lift at their highest setting.
I currently have rough county 2in bolt on leveling kit installed on my 13 f150 and my rear shocks are still factory stock. Should I get the 5100 or the 4600. Kinda stuck between the two.
4600 are strictly an OE replacement. 5100 are a step above and better for towing and hauling. Really up to you on what your needs are.
@@ShockSurplus This was helpful, thank you. I'm in the same position, more or less.
Is it okay that my 5100’s showed up for my jeep without the strap around them? I was able to install them but just noticed out of the box they didn’t have the strap.
it'd only be an issue if the strap wasn't there, and the shocks weren't fully extended (they lost nitro charge)
I have runner 3rd gen running KIB Monomax do you think I can do the switch to Bilstein or keep with the KIB. I don't do many off road trips
They're going to be extremely close in ride quality, KYB maybe a tad softer based on feedback we see (we haven't tested Monomax yet, surprisingly).
I put the 5100 on my 4 inch lifted 03 Silverado with 35's and man it's a rough ride that shock is pretty stiff
We run them on our own vehicles but none that have a 4" lift, and they are all driving perfectly fine and honestly better than other parts that were previously on it. It varies on vehicle, the lift, and then personal opinion as firmness and stiffness is subjective.
After watching the video, considering the 4600’s for the rear of my 2011 Silverado 1500. I do have a 2 in ‘leveling kit’ on the front. What shocks should I put in the front?
You can run either in the front, the 5100s for the front are for people looking to level the vehicle through the adjustable height spring collar. But if you've already leveled it, you dont need that. Or you can use the 5100 ride height adjustment instead of the 2" spacer you currently have.
Hey i need your advise i am unable to get 5100 rear pair can i pair 5100front and 4600 rear ?
Vehicle: Jeep Commander
Application: soft sand offroad
I have 2002 F350 Super Duty 4x4 and It needs shocks, stabilizer damper and I wanted to convert the solid rod stabilizer to a sd dual shock stabilizer. What would you recommend at 200k miles?
We suggest running the Bilstein 5100. They are going to feel a bit stiffer than stock but will make your overall vehicle feel more stable and in control. They are also very good for towing and hauling usage.
They only offer a single steering stabilizer option. We can get you the SuperLift Dual Steering Stabilizer Kit that runs a universal spec 5100 steering stabilizer under Part number 92710. We can them for $362.99.
Please contact us directly also we can set you up with a customer order for these parts.
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Nice job. Thank you for the response and I will follow your advice
What would the part number be for 5100 s ? 2006 Silverado LT with only a level kit in front
2006 Chevrolet Silverado LT but is this a 1500, 2500, or 3500 and how much lift did you leveling kit do exactly, 2", 2.5" or 3".
Do the 4600s come with the springs ? Also can I get these at any auto parts
They do not come with springs and you would have to retain your factory ones.
What is better for 2009 hummer h2
Can the 5100 be put onto a non lifted super duty truck? I’ve watched some videos were people have put them on a non lifted but they are tow consistently heavy loads and wonder if that maybe is the reason that go with the 5100 over the 4600.
Yes you can put the 5100s on the Ford Super Duty trucks, they're only a tad longer than the 4600s - they're going to be near identical for towing
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What do you think is the ideal shock for a 1st Gen Toyota 4Runner (front and back). Going to fix leaf springs and will also update shocks.
Depends what you want to do with the truck, if its going to be a daily driver, i'd suggest some Bilstein 5100s in their universal length applications.
Hi
I have a Prado 150
I want to change the height of the vehicle and the shock absorbers, but I do not know which is better in quality and price
Profender, Bilstein, Dobinsons or any other type
Is there an explanation of the difference between them?
We do not work with Profender so we can not speak to their quality, but Dobinsons and Bilstein definitely make great stuff. As far as differences it depends on what model lines you are looking at as they all make plenty of options available. Those are pretty open ended questions so if you are looking for more specific recommendations for your needs give us a shout on our site and let us know your budget, use cases and goals and we can steer you in the right direction. www.shocksurplus.com/pages/contact-us
What about 5100 versus 5125s? I have CJ7 with a spring over conversion on Dana 44s with 38-in tires. Which shock would be better, the 5100s or the 5125s? Thanks!
The 5100 designation usually indicates a vehicle specific shock and 5125s usually are a universal shock, however the Bilstein shocks for your application are all eyelet to eyelet 5125 shocks with 255/70 valving. So either way it is going to be a 5125, you will just have to figure out the length you need. www.shocksurplus.com/blogs/shocks-101/how-to-measure-your-shocks
@@ShockSurplus I know my lengths and there are some 5100s that fall into my length requirements. My question is will a 5125 allow me the same lengths with different valving for front and rear?. I want 275 for the front and 255 for the rear
I installed the 5100's on my Nissan Frontier which is the Adara I think in the states and it is unbelievably stiff. Like almost go kart stiff. Any advice?
They are definitely on the firmer side, however the biggest problem we have run into on these Nissans is they are incredibly limited in travel up front. If you have them set for some lift, coming down usually helps out a bunch. Normally ride height does not matter than much on a 5100, but with around 5" of wheel travel to work with, anything more than about an inch of lift on the front causes these rigs to be fairly prone to topping out.
Hello, I bought a truck with a 7.5 inch lift on it, I am looking for the back shocks. I can’t seem to find any for that height of lift! What do you recommend?
It depends on the truck, however there are not usually a ton of great shock options for lifts that high. Give us a shout directly on our site with your complete vehicle information, and our team should be able to find something that will work, even if we need to get a little tricky. www.shocksurplus.com/pages/contact-us