Your GameCube performance results are very strange. Most people are having the vast majority of GameCube games run just fine at 2x resolution on the official Dolphin emulator build.
I agree sounds like he didn't even configure anything to test them and just played with default settings, even PS2 I was able to get playing at 2x with a dozen games I tested! Plus Wii, which tomorrow I have a setup guide coming out for 😂
Yeah this is definitely wrong. I wonder if he forgot to put it in High Performance mode. Very misleading. It can play Colin McRae at 2x without sweat. No reason anything should be below 1x
I personally have a RP4pro and running no issues with nearly the entire GCN library @ 2x res, set to high performance mode at full speed on the latest version of Dolphin (from their website). Some games I had to switch from Vulkan to OpenGL but since Dolphin has per game profiles it's a do it once and forget it thing. Not sure what settings ETA was using but it's not right.
Same. I ran into some weird issues with Dolphin for handheld with certain games but regular Dolphin has been silky smooth at full resolution with very little tweaking. Not sure why ETA had such weird results.
He said it..when he testing GameCube he isn't using the normal emulator tho..he is using kinda like a lite version of it..well it performed worse than the normal one tho..as he already said it on the vids..
Everyone this is not a good review he’s only using the lowest settings and using least common version of emulators like dolphin. But the device is truly superb
@@zuko9085 You need a CFW Switch running Atmosphere to dump games. There are also multiple ways to do it obtain those roms, that cant be said here. But Brave search is a good start.
Definitely something wonky with this video. Ive played most games at 2x resolution on gamecube and ps2. The occasional difficult to run games you need to drop to 1x or wont play because of the hardware but its not the norm. Idk where these 0.6x and 0.75x are coming from unless its just use the vanilla emulators that can be quickly installed during setup. If you are truly interested in this handheld look at retro game corps videos or someone else. Definitely disappointed with this video from ETA prime as I normally take most of his videos as fairly truthful but this one not so much
Yeah this really leads me to question his opinions in the future. Not sure if it was lazy or lack of research but this is super misleading and if he played like this for a month kinda pathetic on his part since these can all be 2x with no tweaks
@@janX9 Apparently it's pretty variable. For example, Sly Cooper is bad on nethersx2 but good on aethersx2, but Champions of Norrath was working better in nethersx2.
The channel has had very good growth in the last year, which has certainly attracted the attention of several manufacturers, who are looking for someone to write a “favorable” review. Each video, ultimately, seems to be a ctrl + c ctrl + v of the previous day's video, with nothing really new being presented. It's a shame, because this channel is very good, the videos are very well made, but it seems that now it has become a place to only serve to boost the sale of each new Chinese console, that is launched every 3 days.
Really? I found his comparison against the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 refreshing. I had not thought of using a phone as an alternative. I didn't see any other channel do this comparison.
Agreed with your opinion here. I love the quality of the videography, but overall it is a shill piece. Too positive and anything that is even slightly negative is followed with a "but...." which tries to minimize the negative content. The only time you might theoretically get a true negative review is when a handheld is so egregiously half-baked that it would damage the appearance of credibility that ETA wants to maintain.
It can run GTA SA perfectly fine in 2x with the 60fps patch & ghosting fix, for example. Really a nice little device. But it seems theres a vsync issue for 2D stuff, and i had problems with a 256gb sd card, unmounting with no reason after a certain time in sleep mode. The new 512gb sd works perfect though.
He says he's using a special handheld version of Dolphin and a different modified version of AetherSX2, not the official releases. That's where the differences are coming from.
As far as playing modern games, I think Switch Lite is our best bet. If only Spidey was on it. I know it's technically an exclusive but one can always hope. I got a voice acting background and have to say that Yuri Lowenthal's voice has been such an inspiration for me since the PoP Trilogy. His performance in Spidey 2 is amazing. The vocal training was really tough, sometimes without noticeable results for months but actors like him and the late Kevin Conroy are a great impulse to not give up. You almost saw me as Leon in those new RE games :)
Sony more than like would do as much as possible to not assist Nintendo in anyway considering that Nintendo screwing them over was the entire reason for them entering the console market.
I believe you messed up. Using Auto might've kept you under the limits. I can run most PS2 and GC games at 2x res with no issues, and this can also play most Vita games at 100%. Switch games are also playable, yes even the 3D ones like Diablo3 and Cruisin Blast play at 100%.
@@latinsojiayeah im calling shenanigans on the switch games at 100%. i mean even if its the switch version of diablo 3, its still diablo 3 😅. i would love to be proven wrong though. legitimately. not being an asshole 😅
@@latinsojia Switch games are really hit and miss. With light 2D stuff, it's mostly fine. The new Prince of Persia runs quite well, Hollow Knight with a few hitches. Mario Kart does not run well. But it's also Yuzu's early development state on Android, it may improve a bit over time. There are some vids here on UA-cam where people test Switch games on the RP4Pro. All in all, it is definitely not a Switch machine, some games are playable though.
Are you serious? you have mixed up your retroid pocket 4+ with the odin 2 pro :D not one of the systems you mentioned runs smoothly on the rp4+! wake up...
Same. Android emulation performance should be peak at next generation (already is with Odin 2), just about price point and options now (like dpad placement, screen size, etc).
Just placed my order. Got the pro in crystal clear with glass and carry case. Coin toss between water melon and crystal. I'm excited. I use an iphone and gamin is a bit limited. The PS2 performance is what made me finally buy one. I can't wait to give it a shot and understand it has some limits. Lunch breaks won't be as boring anymore thats for sure. Thanks for the detailed video.
The major problem I had with mine is the spring breaking on the R2 button, early batches were mostly effected and as Retroid are in CNY still its going to take a while to get a new back plate. Thankfully there are guides out there to fix it and a DS4 trigger spring does the job. Also your PS2 and GC emulation performance is definitely not right, 1.75x and 2 is possible for most PS2 from what I have tested.
@@seitostockman Retroid addressed this within a week of it being reported and said all orders before/on 1/31 will get a free 2 year warranty and a replacement back shell that includes the improved r2 trigger. Any orders after 1/31 seemed to be fixed.
@@TheTechUpdate-ui1fh it's a temp fix as the trigger shakes like crazy, I am waiting for Monday as Retroid will be returning from CNY and hopefully I get an answer on the backplate replacement with improved R2 trigger.
Judging by the benchmarks, I should buy a Lenovo Legion y700 and attach a controller. Sucks that the Legion y700 costs as much as an odin 2. Makes my decision even harder
Right now pocket 5 is almost out but it made, me test out my pocket 4pro! Pocket 4pro was pretty good too! Dimensity 1100. Has pretty good performance also.
@@shigshug8581 I actually sold my ROG Ally to get the Odin 2, battery life and portability is a huge thing holding me back from ever going back to a steam deck or windows based handheld. Already having a 3060ti gaming PC with moonlight game streaming also helps back up that decision as well
This review is wrong. RP4PRO emulated way better than shown in this video. Lots of people in the comments section are saying the same thing. ETA prime had something not right here.
This video is extremely disappointing. Theres no reason that you should be downscaling GameCube and PS2 when theres other reviewers who've reviewed this device and ran games at Upscaled resolutions.
@@Blue_Tsukifps: frames per second, the number of images in one second resolution: number of pixels length and width, it decides the clarity of image or video or game
@@wbhtrb3008 ouhhh thanks brotha didn’t knew the exact reason only tot it was abt quality but ya thanks for helping me understand in detail, does is also count for the game laggy quality, or is it just video frame per second quality
@@Blue_Tsuki no problem, it also count for the game laggy quality, when you notice the drops from high frame rate to low frame rate, for example you play a game and your counter displays 60 fps suddenly drops to 20 fps, that's a lag, maybe the problem is from system or game
@@wbhtrb3008 ouhhh true true, thanks mate. Fully get it now 😭😂. Was pretty much as I expected to be, well I guess we all just gotta buy the ones with a best hardware for it to run the 3DS and Switch emulations 🫡
I want to clear up some confusion and misconceptions on this device that led me to buy it. It seems Retroid learned their mistakes from the 3 and 3+. They announced the weaker base 4 and 4 Pro at the same time, then sold only the 4 Pro first. The R2 trigger spring is prone to fail, causing it to be flaccid. Retroid addressed this within a week of it being reported and said all orders before/on 1/31 will get a free 2 year warranty and a replacement back shell that includes the improved r2 trigger. Any orders after 1/31 seemed to be fixed. Also I was able to run the same GC and PS2 games at 1x it maintained 60 fps. Idk why he downscaled.
Retroid addressed this within a week of it being reported and said all orders before/on 1/31 will get a free 2 year warranty and a replacement back shell that includes the improved r2 trigger. Any orders after 1/31 seemed to be fixed.
so now you're just putting videos out without actually experimenting with the devices settings to get the best performance? I've been subscribed to your for years, This used to be a good channel....
Nice to see comparative data between related hardware. Nice upgrade! Still on the fence between this and Odin 2. What is the better out of the box experience? prone to fail? screen quality?
They are both great, but the Odin is more powerful and not pocketable. The RP4 is in its entirety the same size as a galaxy S22 plus and is quite powerful, but not quite as powerful as the Odin. the RP4Pro is $200 and the Odin 2 Pro is $300. Basically, if you want a pocket device, nothing is as good as the RP4Pro at the moment, but if you want a small non-pocketable carry device, the Odin is the way.
Honestly idk why i watch your videos anymore half of them have editing mistakes that you dont care enough to fix. Text being clear so you can't read it or posting "benchmarks" from games yet it says a amd cpu when the device clearly has a intel cpu id advise anyone making decisions on buying stuff based on his opinion to look at other reviews cause he honestly doesn't care and is just chasing the bag
I wanted an Android one, for some ZX Speccy emulation, the emu i use on my phone is great and can actually boot the games, whereas some games in Retroarch i struggle tl get key mappings done for some games
This thing looks so awesome but I always get confused by watching multiple reviews. One reviewer (Retro game corp) was running every Gamecube and PS2 game at 2X resolution no problem but then over here you’re having to go to 0.6 resolution to get it to run. I’m wondering why different channels are getting different results
ETA is wrong on this one. I have one and while it's not perfect there is 0 reason GC to be under 1X and honestly everything I tried works at 2X without much tweaking. I guess at least he under sells it but he is still miles off the mark
There are several possible reasons. 1) he left the device in the wrong power configuration and forgot to try high performance mode 2) he used the wrong versions / forks of emulators that are not optimised for this hardware 3) he didn't actually test this for a month since he's so busy with the other products, life, family, etc. so he's missing information that everyone else already picked up on weeks ago.
How about ergonomics? Igot a Pocket 3 when first released but find it hard to do dual analogs mainly due to low left stick placement. Does this feel better? Looks pretty similar
@@bwp6v Very true, I don't have a retroid but I have a nitro deck which a lot of people say sucks because of the left stick, but after using it for a bit and getting cramps I just had to adjust how I was holding it and it's fine now.
It's he only thing that holds me from getting this. I'm waiting for a revision with left stick on top. Needing a grip beats the purpose of pocketability.
Awesome review as always. But I am curious, why there is no review for the non-plus version yet? Or there is no much difference between the two? Many thanks.
Most people say if you're going to get one at all just drop the extra 50 and get the pro model. For the things most people want it for, using PS2 and gamecube, you'll need the extra grunt. that's probably why you aren't seeing many non pro impressions. Then again the non pro is still a decent upgrade over the RP3.
I may have a theory for your weird results on GC/PS2 as im getting better GC/PS2 performance on my Retroid 2S. Could it be related to Retroids FPS overlay you are using in the video? From my experience don't rely on it! as it gives inaccurate results (first noticed it with new build of PS1 duckstation emulator) always check FPS with a emulators in-app FPS counter i find. For example the Retroid FPS overlay tells me duckstation is dropping FPS but the in-app counter is locked to 60. Hope that helps.
One can hope, I mean there's only so far we can get with the current systems on Android since the software is the real bottleneck. At a certain point without new software the only thing that will get better performance is a stronger device and that's where they'll hit a wall in price to performance before it demands someone step up and make better emulators.
I'm just waiting for something that will emulate up to pcsx3/xemu for $200-$250 but is also pretty compact. I already have a Steam Deck but it's massive. Probably a few more years but we're getting there.
Not really. It seems Retroid learned their mistakes from the 3 and 3+. They announced the weaker base 4 and 4 Pro at the same time, then sold only the 4 Pro first.
The only version of dolphins that lets you downscale is “dolphins for handheld” which is why you’re getting bad performance. I just use the one from the play store and haven’t had any issues with any GameCube games
He is great! I love his reviews, one of my four favorites. He definitely knows what he is talking about. Every handheld that is made should be looked at as a good thing! If you love retro games, you will love most of these handhelds!! Thank you, Prime!!
It's not bad but as things change so quickly, I don't actually think that this will be quite as popular as at first imagined. It seems that it just doesn't quite run what many may have hoped for from day one.
He is just bad at testing. He's using out dated emulators and not adjusting the drop down. This is embarrassingly bad review. Not shilling but it can do 90% of GameCube at 2x without issue. This is 100% user error on his part
It looks cool and all. but if you can afford to pay money for an android that can't make calls. might as well pay extra and get the better value device Odin pro 2
I thought this was a fair review and I feel it was worth my time watching. I'm happy to see that Retroid sent you a good one. Even so, I'm thinking that if I abandon my Android phone + GameSir emulation setup for a reasonably priced handheld any time soon I'd be better served by the RG556. I'm surprised at how poorly GameCube emulation ran. I'm not sure now if other reviewers are blowing smoke or if you had a very unoptimized configuration. PS2 looked great though and, unpopular opinion, that matters much more to me. Thanks for trying "Colin McRae Rally '03". It's one of my favorites too. In the PSP section I noticed that the skybox in "Sega Rally Revo" was glitched out of existence. I beat that game many years ago on original PSP hardware with the UMD drive happily whirring away. The skybox was never flat black. I haven't felt compelled to revisit it with emulation; is that a common glitch with that game or maybe something to do with Mali GPUs?
I was able to figure out how to switch to retro vs Xbox controller by input however I set the “Retriod pocket controller” as my controller but none of the controls are working when I play a game. Apparently, I would need to setup the profile for each controller mode as each controller has a driver built into Retroids OS. I see the profiles options but how do I set up the profile Xbox vs Retriod?
@@JosephFrietzeThe RG556! The RP4 Pro only benefit is that it has 20% more power doesn't even matter because if you play the complete Ps2 games it can a run it a little bit better for a smaller screen, bad ergonomic, bad batterylife and eventuelly a lot of problems like the R2 Trigger, Screen or sd cardslot issues!
Anbernic RG556 all day. Even if it's not as powerful as the 4Pro, it's powerful enough for most things and is much better everywhere else that counts. The screen is much better, the ergonomics are much better, and it couldn't possibly be as poorly built as early Pocket 4s seem to be. The only currently known potential downside of the Anbernic is that it's not as pocketable as the Pocket 4.
Retroid addressed this within a week of it being reported and said all orders before/on 1/31 will get a free 2 year warranty and a replacement back shell that includes the improved r2 trigger. Any orders after 1/31 seemed to be fixed.
I had The Odin Lite same soc as The RP4 and MTK soc are not better than SD socs, is cheaper yes but it's not gonna give you The same performance, besides MTK it's better with vulkan but it causes a lot of graphical glitches in many emulators, so my final word Buy RP4+ only if You wanna play basic games Gamecube and below even with ps2 it Will have glitches if You wanna play Gamecube PS2 and Wii go for Odin 2
@@fu102 but why carry two devices? Is it more pocketable if you also have your phone in your pocket? Chances are your phone is more powerful and has better screen anyways
Disclaimer (fictional): just yesterday we have seen "THE BEST 209 $ HANDHELD YOU CAN BUY RIGHT NOW" and the day before "THE BEST 219 $ HANDHELD YOU CAN BUY RIGHT NOW". Naturally, I had to buy all of them... ALL OF THEM.
These UA-camrs be saying anything to sell you dummy stuff, this device has green screen tint issues and failing back buttons, loud fan noise… The Best 199$ Handheld You Can Buy Right Now! 😒
Hey guys I'm looking for a similar form factor like this that can emulate switch. I've had a steam deck with a portable battery and I can't get more than an hour and a half. I also have a Lenovo legion go and battery life is even shorter. Any suggestions on a pocket handheld?
AYN and Retroid are owned by the same company and they share some hardware and software bits between the Odins and the Pockets. I'm not saying that you shouldn't buy the Odin 2; just do your due diligence before buying one.
This on paper should outperform my old a52s and yet ps2 games run better on 1x then this Pocket can and like that kingdom hearts at 2x no issues, god of war goes 1x. Maybe no setup done or something is wrong with this device or drivers or something, but this should handle emulation better then my now old phone, in this regard comaparing it to gen1 is like comparing a planetary system to a galaxy, i mean both are magnificent but one is just something else entirely, i dont know something feels off.
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Your GameCube performance results are very strange. Most people are having the vast majority of GameCube games run just fine at 2x resolution on the official Dolphin emulator build.
I agree sounds like he didn't even configure anything to test them and just played with default settings, even PS2 I was able to get playing at 2x with a dozen games I tested! Plus Wii, which tomorrow I have a setup guide coming out for 😂
Yeah this is definitely wrong. I wonder if he forgot to put it in High Performance mode. Very misleading. It can play Colin McRae at 2x without sweat. No reason anything should be below 1x
I personally have a RP4pro and running no issues with nearly the entire GCN library @ 2x res, set to high performance mode at full speed on the latest version of Dolphin (from their website). Some games I had to switch from Vulkan to OpenGL but since Dolphin has per game profiles it's a do it once and forget it thing. Not sure what settings ETA was using but it's not right.
Same. I ran into some weird issues with Dolphin for handheld with certain games but regular Dolphin has been silky smooth at full resolution with very little tweaking. Not sure why ETA had such weird results.
He said it..when he testing GameCube he isn't using the normal emulator tho..he is using kinda like a lite version of it..well it performed worse than the normal one tho..as he already said it on the vids..
Everyone this is not a good review he’s only using the lowest settings and using least common version of emulators like dolphin. But the device is truly superb
Just got mine several days ago, it's the absolute sweet spot for me in terms of price, size, and power.....
does you know the dimensions of this device?
no need to downscale gamecube games with the regular dolphin emulator (for those games tested)
The only thing we need to down scale is switch, lol
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 true, and not even every switch game needs downscaling either
@@fu102What's the best way to get my switch games into ROMs?
@@zuko9085 You need a CFW Switch running Atmosphere to dump games. There are also multiple ways to do it obtain those roms, that cant be said here. But Brave search is a good start.
Definitely something wonky with this video. Ive played most games at 2x resolution on gamecube and ps2. The occasional difficult to run games you need to drop to 1x or wont play because of the hardware but its not the norm. Idk where these 0.6x and 0.75x are coming from unless its just use the vanilla emulators that can be quickly installed during setup. If you are truly interested in this handheld look at retro game corps videos or someone else. Definitely disappointed with this video from ETA prime as I normally take most of his videos as fairly truthful but this one not so much
Yeah this really leads me to question his opinions in the future. Not sure if it was lazy or lack of research but this is super misleading and if he played like this for a month kinda pathetic on his part since these can all be 2x with no tweaks
@@McSmeechersonI have heard the nethersx2 port isn't as good as Aethersx2 (ver. 3668 I think) in terms of emulation.
@@janX9 Apparently it's pretty variable. For example, Sly Cooper is bad on nethersx2 but good on aethersx2, but Champions of Norrath was working better in nethersx2.
The channel has had very good growth in the last year, which has certainly attracted the attention of several manufacturers, who are looking for someone to write a “favorable” review. Each video, ultimately, seems to be a ctrl + c ctrl + v of the previous day's video, with nothing really new being presented. It's a shame, because this channel is very good, the videos are very well made, but it seems that now it has become a place to only serve to boost the sale of each new Chinese console, that is launched every 3 days.
Can't agree more
Title: review product
Reality: spreading hype
Really? I found his comparison against the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 refreshing. I had not thought of using a phone as an alternative. I didn't see any other channel do this comparison.
Agreed with your opinion here. I love the quality of the videography, but overall it is a shill piece. Too positive and anything that is even slightly negative is followed with a "but...." which tries to minimize the negative content. The only time you might theoretically get a true negative review is when a handheld is so egregiously half-baked that it would damage the appearance of credibility that ETA wants to maintain.
I feel like Retroid re-inventing the PS Vita proved to me that it's the perfect handheld 🙏😤
Ps2 and gc at under 1x resolution? Most other reviewers are getting 2x resolution.. Perhaps he can't be arsed to mess with a few settings
It can run GTA SA perfectly fine in 2x with the 60fps patch & ghosting fix, for example. Really a nice little device.
But it seems theres a vsync issue for 2D stuff, and i had problems with a 256gb sd card, unmounting with no reason after a certain time in sleep mode. The new 512gb sd works perfect though.
@@NiKE-2002good to hear, mine arrived last Friday but I've still not had time to set anything up, looking forward to it though!
It works at 2X without any real tweaking. Just Vulkan and 2X so weird he is so far off the mark
He says he's using a special handheld version of Dolphin and a different modified version of AetherSX2, not the official releases. That's where the differences are coming from.
I couldn't even hear you halfway through the device speakers over powered it 😞
As far as playing modern games, I think Switch Lite is our best bet. If only Spidey was on it. I know it's technically an exclusive but one can always hope. I got a voice acting background and have to say that Yuri Lowenthal's voice has been such an inspiration for me since the PoP Trilogy. His performance in Spidey 2 is amazing. The vocal training was really tough, sometimes without noticeable results for months but actors like him and the late Kevin Conroy are a great impulse to not give up. You almost saw me as Leon in those new RE games :)
Sony more than like would do as much as possible to not assist Nintendo in anyway considering that Nintendo screwing them over was the entire reason for them entering the console market.
@@SunnyDeLite You're right. I still can't get over the fact that PSP and Vita - amazing hardware - sold nowhere near as DS and 3DS.
Every gaming console these days need to always also come in these cool different colored front and back shells
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I believe you messed up. Using Auto might've kept you under the limits. I can run most PS2 and GC games at 2x res with no issues, and this can also play most Vita games at 100%. Switch games are also playable, yes even the 3D ones like Diablo3 and Cruisin Blast play at 100%.
How are you playing Switch games on here?
@@latinsojia tem varios vídeos no UA-cam rodando , só pesquisar no UA-cam , esse eta prime é péssimo para configurar aparelhos
@@latinsojiayeah im calling shenanigans on the switch games at 100%. i mean even if its the switch version of diablo 3, its still diablo 3 😅. i would love to be proven wrong though. legitimately. not being an asshole 😅
@@latinsojia Switch games are really hit and miss. With light 2D stuff, it's mostly fine. The new Prince of Persia runs quite well, Hollow Knight with a few hitches. Mario Kart does not run well. But it's also Yuzu's early development state on Android, it may improve a bit over time. There are some vids here on UA-cam where people test Switch games on the RP4Pro.
All in all, it is definitely not a Switch machine, some games are playable though.
Are you serious?
you have mixed up your retroid pocket 4+ with the odin 2 pro :D
not one of the systems you mentioned runs smoothly on the rp4+!
wake up...
I feel like we’re one generation away from having the what I want from one of these cheap handhelds.
Agreed. Feel's likes we are on the precipise of a truly awesome device at agreat price point.
Same. Android emulation performance should be peak at next generation (already is with Odin 2), just about price point and options now (like dpad placement, screen size, etc).
Just placed my order. Got the pro in crystal clear with glass and carry case. Coin toss between water melon and crystal. I'm excited. I use an iphone and gamin is a bit limited. The PS2 performance is what made me finally buy one. I can't wait to give it a shot and understand it has some limits. Lunch breaks won't be as boring anymore thats for sure. Thanks for the detailed video.
Wow the Pocket 4 Pro is such a giant upgrade to the 3 as far as benchmarks go.
The major problem I had with mine is the spring breaking on the R2 button, early batches were mostly effected and as Retroid are in CNY still its going to take a while to get a new back plate.
Thankfully there are guides out there to fix it and a DS4 trigger spring does the job.
Also your PS2 and GC emulation performance is definitely not right, 1.75x and 2 is possible for most PS2 from what I have tested.
He dropped the ball not mentioning the trigger spring issue. There's no way he isn't aware of that
Idk why he is downscaling either
@@seitostockman Retroid addressed this within a week of it being reported and said all orders before/on 1/31 will get a free 2 year warranty and a replacement back shell that includes the improved r2 trigger. Any orders after 1/31 seemed to be fixed.
Been wondering about how many people have experienced issues with the triggers, Great to hear that there is a possible fix
@@TheTechUpdate-ui1fh it's a temp fix as the trigger shakes like crazy, I am waiting for Monday as Retroid will be returning from CNY and hopefully I get an answer on the backplate replacement with improved R2 trigger.
Judging by the benchmarks, I should buy a Lenovo Legion y700 and attach a controller. Sucks that the Legion y700 costs as much as an odin 2. Makes my decision even harder
Hopefully mine comes in the mail soon. Cant wait!
Right now pocket 5 is almost out but it made, me test out my pocket 4pro! Pocket 4pro was pretty good too! Dimensity 1100. Has pretty good performance also.
10:55 I never knew I wanted to play sonic colors until now MY RP4P NEEDS TO SHIP CURSE YOU CHINESE NEW YEAR
I broke R2 5 minutes into God Of War for PS2! uggh.
Just got mine on the mail my first thoughts were damn this things build quality is good
On my wish list. Decent for the money it seems
The RP4 has made me want to buy and Odin 2
The Odin 2 has made me want to buy a Steam Deck.
@@shigshug8581 I actually sold my ROG Ally to get the Odin 2, battery life and portability is a huge thing holding me back from ever going back to a steam deck or windows based handheld. Already having a 3060ti gaming PC with moonlight game streaming also helps back up that decision as well
@@shigshug8581 The Steam Deck has made me want to buy a light gaming laptop.
@@shigshug8581 The steam deck has made me want to buy an ROG Ally
This review is wrong. RP4PRO emulated way better than shown in this video. Lots of people in the comments section are saying the same thing. ETA prime had something not right here.
This video is extremely disappointing. Theres no reason that you should be downscaling GameCube and PS2 when theres other reviewers who've reviewed this device and ran games at Upscaled resolutions.
Sorry to ask but what is and does the fps term and resoluations do?
@@Blue_Tsukifps: frames per second, the number of images in one second
resolution: number of pixels length and width, it decides the clarity of image or video or game
@@wbhtrb3008 ouhhh thanks brotha didn’t knew the exact reason only tot it was abt quality but ya thanks for helping me understand in detail, does is also count for the game laggy quality, or is it just video frame per second quality
@@Blue_Tsuki no problem, it also count for the game laggy quality, when you notice the drops from high frame rate to low frame rate, for example you play a game and your counter displays 60 fps suddenly drops to 20 fps, that's a lag, maybe the problem is from system or game
@@wbhtrb3008 ouhhh true true, thanks mate. Fully get it now 😭😂. Was pretty much as I expected to be, well I guess we all just gotta buy the ones with a best hardware for it to run the 3DS and Switch emulations 🫡
I want to clear up some confusion and misconceptions on this device that led me to buy it.
It seems Retroid learned their mistakes from the 3 and 3+. They announced the weaker base 4 and 4 Pro at the same time, then sold only the 4 Pro first.
The R2 trigger spring is prone to fail, causing it to be flaccid. Retroid addressed this within a week of it being reported and said all orders before/on 1/31 will get a free 2 year warranty and a replacement back shell that includes the improved r2 trigger. Any orders after 1/31 seemed to be fixed.
Also I was able to run the same GC and PS2 games at 1x it maintained 60 fps. Idk why he downscaled.
You forgot to talk about the defects everyone's having.
Bros mad his ROM player doesn’t work right 💀
Retroid addressed this within a week of it being reported and said all orders before/on 1/31 will get a free 2 year warranty and a replacement back shell that includes the improved r2 trigger. Any orders after 1/31 seemed to be fixed.
This 💯
Hype channel like ETA only talks positive and make up if the product don't have one
so now you're just putting videos out without actually experimenting with the devices settings to get the best performance? I've been subscribed to your for years, This used to be a good channel....
F-zero is auto set to 2 cores rather than 4 on dolphin, it runs pretty well when you change it
Nice to see comparative data between related hardware. Nice upgrade!
Still on the fence between this and Odin 2. What is the better out of the box experience? prone to fail? screen quality?
They are both great, but the Odin is more powerful and not pocketable. The RP4 is in its entirety the same size as a galaxy S22 plus and is quite powerful, but not quite as powerful as the Odin. the RP4Pro is $200 and the Odin 2 Pro is $300. Basically, if you want a pocket device, nothing is as good as the RP4Pro at the moment, but if you want a small non-pocketable carry device, the Odin is the way.
Constrictive feedback: please turn down the handheld or use ducking because at some points in the video it's hard to hear you over the game.
Thanks
Launchbox scraping is second to none.
I use it as a mini tablet too. Great little entertainment device.
That Red looks rad!
Honestly idk why i watch your videos anymore half of them have editing mistakes that you dont care enough to fix. Text being clear so you can't read it or posting "benchmarks" from games yet it says a amd cpu when the device clearly has a intel cpu id advise anyone making decisions on buying stuff based on his opinion to look at other reviews cause he honestly doesn't care and is just chasing the bag
I wanted an Android one, for some ZX Speccy emulation, the emu i use on my phone is great and can actually boot the games, whereas some games in Retroarch i struggle tl get key mappings done for some games
This thing looks so awesome but I always get confused by watching multiple reviews. One reviewer (Retro game corp) was running every Gamecube and PS2 game at 2X resolution no problem but then over here you’re having to go to 0.6 resolution to get it to run. I’m wondering why different channels are getting different results
Im guessing its because ETAPrime left it on Smart/Auto. RGC manually put the system into Highperformance mode.
ETA is wrong on this one. I have one and while it's not perfect there is 0 reason GC to be under 1X and honestly everything I tried works at 2X without much tweaking. I guess at least he under sells it but he is still miles off the mark
The rp3+ could run a ton of gamecube at 1x res, idk what he's doing
There are several possible reasons.
1) he left the device in the wrong power configuration and forgot to try high performance mode
2) he used the wrong versions / forks of emulators that are not optimised for this hardware
3) he didn't actually test this for a month since he's so busy with the other products, life, family, etc. so he's missing information that everyone else already picked up on weeks ago.
Option 3 would explain how his triggers aren't broken yet.
How about ergonomics? Igot a Pocket 3 when first released but find it hard to do dual analogs mainly due to low left stick placement. Does this feel better? Looks pretty similar
They offer a $15 grip that dramatically helps with that situation.
For the left analog I find the grip to be key. Otherwise, I'd cramp up quickly given the size. WIth the grip, it works great for me.
@@bwp6v Very true, I don't have a retroid but I have a nitro deck which a lot of people say sucks because of the left stick, but after using it for a bit and getting cramps I just had to adjust how I was holding it and it's fine now.
I agree. I wish they had it xbox/switch style with the Left stick on the top instead. This works better for 3d games.
It's he only thing that holds me from getting this.
I'm waiting for a revision with left stick on top.
Needing a grip beats the purpose of pocketability.
really happy to watch your videos all this time even though never buy any of your recommendation cause can't afford it.
When every video is recommended.. I don't blame you.
Awesome review as always. But I am curious, why there is no review for the non-plus version yet? Or there is no much difference between the two? Many thanks.
Most people say if you're going to get one at all just drop the extra 50 and get the pro model. For the things most people want it for, using PS2 and gamecube, you'll need the extra grunt. that's probably why you aren't seeing many non pro impressions. Then again the non pro is still a decent upgrade over the RP3.
The non pro hasn't shipped yet. They sold/shipped just the pro first.
I'm having no issues with the r2 triggers. But I'm worried with heavy use would they break? I've been playing classic games more to avoid this issue.
How do you get the games onto the device?
I may have a theory for your weird results on GC/PS2 as im getting better GC/PS2 performance on my Retroid 2S.
Could it be related to Retroids FPS overlay you are using in the video? From my experience don't rely on it! as it gives inaccurate results (first noticed it with new build of PS1 duckstation emulator) always check FPS with a emulators in-app FPS counter i find. For example the Retroid FPS overlay tells me duckstation is dropping FPS but the in-app counter is locked to 60.
Hope that helps.
The problem with this is 2-4 months from now something will come out and be better for the same price point. That's both a blessing and a curse.
One can hope, I mean there's only so far we can get with the current systems on Android since the software is the real bottleneck. At a certain point without new software the only thing that will get better performance is a stronger device and that's where they'll hit a wall in price to performance before it demands someone step up and make better emulators.
I'm just waiting for something that will emulate up to pcsx3/xemu for $200-$250 but is also pretty compact. I already have a Steam Deck but it's massive.
Probably a few more years but we're getting there.
Loll, you're not getting PS3 emulaton for 250 😆 you'll also need a PC. Cheapest is 700
Not really. It seems Retroid learned their mistakes from the 3 and 3+. They announced the weaker base 4 and 4 Pro at the same time, then sold only the 4 Pro first.
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 I would agree for the immediate future. But you never know beyond that.
The only version of dolphins that lets you downscale is “dolphins for handheld” which is why you’re getting bad performance. I just use the one from the play store and haven’t had any issues with any GameCube games
Bro make a comparison Video retroid pocket 4 pro vs rg556
A month later and I still don’t have the one I ordered 20 minutes after preorders started.
Have you had any problems with screen ghosting?
Is this device able to play games right out of the box?
Hello, could you please do a guide on setting up PS2 emulation on this and the RP3+
You should adjust your volume levels. I have a hard time hearing you over the footage with gameplay
mine has a green and red line going across the screen. and they cant answer my email until lunar new years is over. sadge
Those benchmarks are almost identical to my S21 Ultra. Wow
Just received my Pro in the mail is it safe to use a fast charger or do I need to pick up another charger
Dose this game console run PS1 PS2 PS3 XBOX 360 ZX Spectrum N64 Games? Does it also have Google play store?
Definitely needs a grip
He is great! I love his reviews, one of my four favorites. He definitely knows what he is talking about. Every handheld that is made should be looked at as a good thing! If you love retro games, you will love most of these handhelds!! Thank you, Prime!!
An AI definitely wrote this.
Game sound makes it very hard to understand what you are saying
It's not bad but as things change so quickly, I don't actually think that this will be quite as popular as at first imagined. It seems that it just doesn't quite run what many may have hoped for from day one.
He is just bad at testing. He's using out dated emulators and not adjusting the drop down. This is embarrassingly bad review. Not shilling but it can do 90% of GameCube at 2x without issue. This is 100% user error on his part
thanks ETA Prime showing Diablo immortal.
Is this a review or a paid advert?
Does it support switch or ps vita? Thx
Gets a commodore 64 in the mail plus payment, BEST PC YOU CAN BUY RIGHT NOW
looks like speedy reviews maybe the fame is changing him
Ofcourse shills still refuse to call out retroid for their shitty QC on this device
Hows this thing with 3DS emulation?
good job to me, just get a used phone with the correct soc
How does this compare to the ayaneo pocket S? Price difference?
the RP4 Pro is a lot more powerful than the pocketS
I cannot buy it for a reasonable price lol. Customs, VAT plus shipping costs make it super expensive.
It looks cool and all.
but if you can afford to pay money for an android that can't make calls.
might as well pay extra and get the better value device Odin pro 2
So which pokemon games from the ds-3ds can it run?
I thought this was a fair review and I feel it was worth my time watching. I'm happy to see that Retroid sent you a good one. Even so, I'm thinking that if I abandon my Android phone + GameSir emulation setup for a reasonably priced handheld any time soon I'd be better served by the RG556.
I'm surprised at how poorly GameCube emulation ran. I'm not sure now if other reviewers are blowing smoke or if you had a very unoptimized configuration. PS2 looked great though and, unpopular opinion, that matters much more to me. Thanks for trying "Colin McRae Rally '03". It's one of my favorites too.
In the PSP section I noticed that the skybox in "Sega Rally Revo" was glitched out of existence. I beat that game many years ago on original PSP hardware with the UMD drive happily whirring away. The skybox was never flat black. I haven't felt compelled to revisit it with emulation; is that a common glitch with that game or maybe something to do with Mali GPUs?
Did he mention broken triggers?
Downscale resolution???? LMAAAOO who is this guy?? Over a million susbcribers? H O W
I was able to figure out how to switch to retro vs Xbox controller by input however I set the “Retriod pocket controller” as my controller but none of the controls are working when I play a game. Apparently, I would need to setup the profile for each controller mode as each controller has a driver built into Retroids OS. I see the profiles options but how do I set up the profile Xbox vs Retriod?
Retro Pocket 4 pro vs Ambernic RG556?
Odin 2 Pro!
@@EliasPfaifferthat's finy. I can't seem to find it for $199 ;)
@@JosephFrietzeThe RG556! The RP4 Pro only benefit is that it has 20% more power doesn't even matter because if you play the complete Ps2 games it can a run it a little bit better for a smaller screen, bad ergonomic, bad batterylife and eventuelly a lot of problems like the R2 Trigger, Screen or sd cardslot issues!
@@RGB-Gamer yeah, that's what I was thinking too. Thanks.
Anbernic RG556 all day. Even if it's not as powerful as the 4Pro, it's powerful enough for most things and is much better everywhere else that counts. The screen is much better, the ergonomics are much better, and it couldn't possibly be as poorly built as early Pocket 4s seem to be. The only currently known potential downside of the Anbernic is that it's not as pocketable as the Pocket 4.
Be truthful and talk about the buttons. Defects that everybody's having stop being too positive.
Retroid addressed this within a week of it being reported and said all orders before/on 1/31 will get a free 2 year warranty and a replacement back shell that includes the improved r2 trigger. Any orders after 1/31 seemed to be fixed.
Buttons are perfect
I still don't understand why people run games at a super high resolution... A resolution that is higher than the display can render.
Is not better to just save a little and buy ayn?
100 $ more isn't a little. The RP4 just costs only 200 $. You have to pay basically half the price of the RP4 on top to get the Odin2 base model.
Can you play rom hacks like Pokémon Insurance and Pokémon zenoverse
I had The Odin Lite same soc as The RP4 and MTK soc are not better than SD socs, is cheaper yes but it's not gonna give you The same performance, besides MTK it's better with vulkan but it causes a lot of graphical glitches in many emulators, so my final word Buy RP4+ only if You wanna play basic games Gamecube and below even with ps2 it Will have glitches if You wanna play Gamecube PS2 and Wii go for Odin 2
why would you ever choose a device like this over that $15 controller ETA PRIME reviewed last week
Honestly, ive tried the external controller route, and this thing is actually more pocketable
@@fu102 but why carry two devices? Is it more pocketable if you also have your phone in your pocket? Chances are your phone is more powerful and has better screen anyways
Disclaimer (fictional): just yesterday we have seen "THE BEST 209 $ HANDHELD YOU CAN BUY RIGHT NOW" and the day before "THE BEST 219 $ HANDHELD YOU CAN BUY RIGHT NOW".
Naturally, I had to buy all of them... ALL OF THEM.
Just got mine yesterday.
What about dreamcast and sega saturn?
best "insert product name" youtuber 😂
These UA-camrs be saying anything to sell you dummy stuff, this device has green screen tint issues and failing back buttons, loud fan noise… The Best 199$ Handheld You Can Buy Right Now! 😒
Hey guys I'm looking for a similar form factor like this that can emulate switch. I've had a steam deck with a portable battery and I can't get more than an hour and a half. I also have a Lenovo legion go and battery life is even shorter. Any suggestions on a pocket handheld?
I have a question, can this device run fortnite mobile?
I need this In calm shell.
Any new odroid handhelds ?
How does carx street run on this my s21 struggles with it my and the firmware on the odin is outdated so its not supported 😢
Oh i Buy the retroid Pocket 3+ is it so Bad?
As long as you can emulate or play games that you want then is ok
will yuzu work on this device?
Yes not all games work that well though because of how new switch emulation is
Also try Skyline, as it somehow runs some games faster than Yuzu
Con que emulador de dolphin puedes bajar a 0.6 red????
The L2 trigger stopped working on mines chip burnt out sending mines back and getting ODIN 2 ASAP I give the retroid pocket 2 thumbs down 👎🏾
AYN and Retroid are owned by the same company and they share some hardware and software bits between the Odins and the Pockets. I'm not saying that you shouldn't buy the Odin 2; just do your due diligence before buying one.
@@mattdavis9601 🥱🥱🥱
This on paper should outperform my old a52s and yet ps2 games run better on 1x then this Pocket can and like that kingdom hearts at 2x no issues, god of war goes 1x.
Maybe no setup done or something is wrong with this device or drivers or something, but this should handle emulation better then my now old phone, in this regard comaparing it to gen1 is like comparing a planetary system to a galaxy, i mean both are magnificent but one is just something else entirely, i dont know something feels off.
It does handle GC/PS2 at 2x without breaking much of a sweat. I think he didn't change performance settings. FZero and Colin McCrae run 2x no issues
screen is way too small IMO so the price doesnt help
It's ok if your a month late reviewing we forgive you rest assured💯💯
No one mentions the horrible screen ghosting, ruins everything, even the 2S has much less screen ghosting.