Man the effort you put into these videos are unmatched. I love the way you explain things like you did with how they fixed the screen and the possible implications.
This console is not perfect, but the possibility of being able to play the most beautiful 3DS, PS2, Gamecube and Wii games at any time and on a real portable console and at a cost of 200 dollars is fantastic for me.
Sure... but it's more than half price of a steam deck that can emulate even more systems and play AAA title new games. Personally I'd just save up a little longer and get the deck
@@HalfMonty11It has a lot of drawbacks for double the cost. The size for starters makes it a lot less portable. The battery life is also worse. Plenty of consoles to play on a half price console thats more portable and lasts longer.
@@HalfMonty11I agree that I find the price point a bit deceiving compared to a steam deck (which I have one and my little brothers play with it just fine, you obv can't play on the metro standing, but sit and it will be perfect still). So I'm a bit confused on this market still, but I will have to inform myself better, because I do miss some old games.
Not really. The golden age was late 90's to early 2010's. All these systems are doing is making those systems accessible. If you weren't there, you didn't experience the cultural Zeitgeist.
@@9unslin9erPS2 was peak gaming. Everything after is a rapid decline. Everything before laid the foundation. Theres a lot of great games before PS2 but PS2 is the golden age
@@9unslin9erand in terms of being there, thats not necessary. Knowing this exists is. People have come to a point of praising games today that are garbage compared to what we had because they dont even know it exists. The recent popularity in retro games by younger consumers will make most games put out today unsaleable and force a new golden age in gaming or the industry will die. These retro consoles are doing God's work
I got excited seeing the Pokemon Sword/Shield gameplay being so smooth, sucks that the rest of the open world is lagging so much. I made sure to write down some of your emulator suggestions. Thanks alot
Wow, thank you so much for making this video. This is something I've been looking for since I started looking at buying the RP4pro, and you've done an amazing job showing such a multitude of games from almost every platform I would want to play on it. Keep up the great work!
Even though I already have a Steam Deck like many others to play PS2 and GC titles, I'm considering this portable (after giving my RP3 to my little sister) due to how small it is, making it much easier to carry around when compared to the SD. Thanks for the review Taki!
I needed a hand held whilst I wait for your dedicated hand held system. After watching this video you helped me go with this one over the 5. Thanks Taki.
The greenscreen issue is so well explained and thought-out. Very fair as well to Retroid. In my opinion your are the most trusted reviewer for this type of devices
Switch got me into gaming again in early sobriety 4 years ago. About 2 years ago I got into the cloud and that made me find retro handhelds ironically. I said to myself. "How does anyone use one of these devices?" After a lot of hw and a lot of thanks to youtube I am now "ok" at it and just got s rp4 pro for my early birthday present. The ability to run a lot of roms, the way it runs android games, and with my love of the cloud, loving this thing way more than I thought. I love games and hate the word favorite, but this will be my most used device for sure. It is just TOO convenient for my crazy life, crazy kids, and sometimes crazy work hours. I am blown away at what this thing does compared to my s 23 ultra. Dno if it's the fan, or just the bloatware of flagships, but the rp4 cruises. It even makes my tidal sound better with my iems lol! So happy i purchased this.
I had to come back and say that this is the best deep dive video I've seen for testing games on the Retroid Pocket 4 Pro. You actually test multiple games in the same series (God of War, Metal Gear Solid, Metroid Prime, Jak and Daxter, and more) rather than others who just show one game or so per franchise.
Feel called out with the screen thing 😅 Touche, you explained your process and reasoning very well, I apologize if what I said offended you in any way. Great video, great explanations. Still highly looking forward to receiving my pre-order
Appears to be £270 in the UK. I love the formfactor etc. Seems like a real solid system. But it's VERY hard to justify that sort of price, with things like the steam deck at £350.
well, i have been asking for a proper comparison with the d900 model, and you are the only one who has delievered! this is why Taki is always the review I wait for. i love retrogamecore and ETAPrime, but Taki has NEVER let me down! thanks!
I think for the size and price, this is a remarkable achievement. But it makes me wonder what a future Retroid Pocket 5 Pro would be like. I think we're almost there for emulation and battery life.
I love my RP4 Pro. I'm actually really glad i didn't grab the RP3+ last year like I was going to. This thing is such a great device and it feels really well built for a so called 'budget device'.
appreciate the thorough video, am really fascinated by this device and have one ordered. am really surprised to see the 5fps frame dips on random games such as 3ds (lugi's mansion 25:38) despite the device handling harder games on more modern gen consoles without the dips.
Amazing review! Could not be more hyped right now Want to say a little thing about the twilight princess footage It is common that the game runs very bad in hyrule field, where you made the test, even on pc. There is a famous cheatcode to make it run normal, so i think we can expect that game running all normal with thar litle fix. Great video :)
Compare to the RP4. I find that the D900 plays most GC and PS2 great and has way better battery life than the D1100. This is kind of like the Qualcomm 888 that was more powerful than the 870, but the battery life is awful.
@@rushmore3927 especially for a person like me who doesnt care so much about PS2/GC as much as DC/N64/PSP/DS and below. I think Id save the $50 and be happy. Also. I like RPGs mostly which run easier than detailed action games. The stuff thats hardest to run on GC/PS2 are really not my type of games (GoW/Colossus/Rogue Squadron etc) i dont really play that stuff
@elisons True, but going back to my main point. Still does great for emulation. Also, less assets are tied up with ram on a gaming device. Phones with other apps, etc is a different story. To me FWIW, I'll take the battery life over a few less games that I'd likely not play anyway. Plus not a fan playing some of those on a 4.7" display.
By far the ebst pocket sized handheld to date. I don't think anything will come close to this for the next year. For 200$ and being able to play such games at this price point and the portable size is unheard of. Will be top 5 for 2024.
Would love to see a video on audio sync and screen tearing fixes even on non "performance" games like Resident Evil Code Veronica on Dreamcast, or Legacy of Kain on PS1 and Dreamcast. Especially the FMV intros.
honestly the fix for the green screen issue is nice to see. while it technically still exists with the start up logo, I don't think its a big deal now.
Nice. If I hadn't already bought a used 3+ last month for 100usd, I'd consider this. However, my main issue with the Retroid is the screen size so if I was going to get another handheld it'd most likely be the Odin 2. I probably won't because [1] I have a steam deck and [2] a Galaxy fold 5, for which I just got a Gamesir G8.
yeah as a steam deck owner it's really hard to justify getting another handheld when they'll have less power and a smaller screen and or worse battery life. I even got an rog ally and returned it because I like the steam deck more. If I find one cheap enough though it would be fun to mess around with one of these
Thanks man! Definitely make be feel better about my Odin Lite purchase! Still a little bummed I didnt wait for something with a Snapdragon processor, but for the price, still a great device.
This is the review I was looking for, especially since I already have an RP3+ and was unsure if the RP4Pro would be a pointless purchase. It's good to see that it won't be. The RP4Pro screen also looks incredible. Cannot wait to get my hands on that one. Also, just to add, the Odin Lite is actually more than $200 on the manufacturer's page. Just another reason to buy the RP4Pro.
Thanks for the video, very informative. I'm not an expert, but coming from pc gaming I have to ask, are those temps normal with some ps2 games? 100 degrees look scary. I mean, is it ok to play for like two hours with those kind of temps without damaging the cpu or battery?
It's the die temp. The critical temperature for this package is 125C, but the device will shutoff if it reaches 115C. Occasional 90-100c temps on the die should be fine.
Thank you Taki for this deep dive on the Pocket 4 Pro. If it were any deeper people would confuse it with the Mariana Trench. It's obvious that a ton of work went into making this video. Unfortunately for me, I watched and commented under the First Look video a few days after it was published. I assume most of this video was already recorded by then because not a single one of my amazing game recommendations made the cut. Maybe I just have terrible taste in games? Ha. Anyways, the one I cared about most was/is "WRC: Rally Evolved" for the PS2. It was Sony and Evolution Studios' rally game swansong and by all accounts they went out on top. My current Snapdragon 845 powered LG phone, the best gaming anything I own at the moment, can't run it well at all. If the Pocket 4 Pro could run it full speed at 1X resolution that would help sell this system to me. Does anyone know how well it'll run here? A semi off topic question: My understanding is that all versions of the Pocket 3 and 4 series use third party iPhone 8/SE2/SE3 screens. Would a factory first party Apple screen be a plug-in-play upgrade for the Pockets 3 and 4? I'm asking because it's not that hard to find older mainline iPhones and newer SEs for sale dirt cheap that have good screens, but are otherwise inoperative. Or is this one of those things where even if it works it quite literally won't make a difference?
I like this system because it easily portable but I was thinking of getting the 2TB retro beast card for my Rog ally. Which would be better? I’m new to the retro game system. And just want to play without the headache of trying to find games online.
The progression of emulation and horsepower per dollar in the last few years has been wild to watch. Wonder how long before "for 199, running 80% of the ps3 library flawlessly is very solid."
If it hasn't already been pointed out to you the cpu boost seems to be a power profile issue. During your Power Consumption Deep Dive section, on the Standard setting the 3 lower cores were boosting to 2.6 and the usual 2.6 core was lower about 2.1. I did ctrl+f to see if anyone else put 2600 or 2.6 in the comments and didn't find any.
It's almost 50 to 60 bucks expensive where I live but it looks so tempting. Ps2 on a handheld is a dream. I'll pick it up maybe sometime later this year to see if price goes down a bit.
Hi taki, nice video but i recomend you use NetherSX2 instead AetherSX2, because Nether is being updated by the community and adding part of the fixes that arrive in PCSX2
I noticed a lot of graphical issues popping up in your GameCube section and was wondering if this is due to Android or if it was just your Dolphin settings? Would love to see another follow up video of your impressions after a month.
IMHO, you did not need to qualify your comments on the green screen issue so much. There was clearly a problem with the display and its calibration both, and you were right to call it out. Even if the company has been made aware of the issue, downplaying it and promoting a fix before it’s been made available to test is absolutely the wrong move, even if there’s a high degree of trust between a reviewer and the manufacturer. It was legitimately surprising to see, and I am glad you didn’t go this route.
I mainly wanted to have something to point back to in the future to explain how I approach these kinds of things and where I think my obligations are to the viewer and to the company. I've never described this process before, so I think it will be valuable to have going forward. I agree with your other points.
amazing work, taki is the watts usage you mention on the power consumption section something to be worried about? or it's high, but normal? I'm a complete power related stuff ignorant
12W is a lot of power for something this small, but it seems to be fine as long as you keep the fan on high for PS2. Even with the fan maxed, it's possible for the CPU temps to go over 100c for a few titles.
Quick question Taki - hoping to hear back from you for some help on this one - can we use the same exact instructions for setup on the Retroid Pocket 4 Pro as you provided for the Retroid Pocket 2 + ? That was a REALLY great guide and it worked PERFECT for me on the 2 +. I just ordered thie 4 Pro and I am really hoping that I can use that same guide to get it going. Are you able to confirm if that guide is still valid for this device?
Thanks for including some ps2/wii jrpgs. But it looks like next year's(?) processor upgrade would be a better time to get a retro handheld at this price point for PS2 emulation. I'm just afraid the base version would be 199 and the pro would be 249😢
Hey Taki! Great video can’t wait to get my hands on my RP4 pro. Just a quick question with twilight princess on the GameCube you think with the right settings I’ll be able to play the entire game at a solid 30 fps with minimal skips and dips? Seeing you play it at hyrule with the cheat code and getting 19 fps really is a let down. I’m wondering because I’ve seen another video and they were getting 30 fps. You think there’s hope for that?
@@TakiUdon Thank you for the reply! hmm its interesting though because the rp3+ its possible to get 30 fps in hyrule field, i might have to do a lot of research lol. Thank you Taki, Great videos keep up the great work!!
@@rubensantiagoguerrerovalle5490 I don't need a Steamdeck, ROG Ally, or AYN Odin for now but I don't mind someday, all I want is to play PS2 and Gamecube with good to fair performance and a pocketability too in a reasonable price, If ever I want to play PC, I will just stream it to Gamepass.
Hey sir taki, not related in your vid but im super impressed now with Citra mmj, even my phone (a mediatek helio g96) is able to run mh gen and mh3u flawlessly. But a year a go it was impossible.... Kudos to the citra developers. Also the ppsspp emulator which is already great but the devs never stop improving it. That makes my low end android phones that i dont use anymore comes back to life as an emulation machine
My Retroid Pocket Flip has been doing really well as my go to system now, but honestly, after experiencing some issues with my 3DS, I've actually been looking into potential replacements, and the Flip can at least play the games, somewhat. I mainly tried some Kirby titles, and they usually have slow down and stuttering. I feel like every time I look for some new device, it's just so I can retain the games I had growing up, First it was for GBA, the PSP, now 3DS.
I'm glad we can finally play that generation of consoles on handheld, but the fact that we phased out 4:3 screens makes it feel like a wasted effort. It took this long to get ps2 to handheld, and we don't even have the right screen to play it on. Every single game on this thing will either have black bars, or an extra level of compatibility settings we shouldn't have to go through. God I wish they'd just make this in 4:3.
Damn the review I was looking for, I've got a RG35XX and I love it for the old school classics, but as a huge GC player *Tales of Symphonia, Custom Robo, HM, etc etc** I think this is the handled I will dump the 200$ into. Appreciate the review dude this thing looks like its up my alley!
Instead of falling for all the hype, I waited till the Odin Pro 1 fell to the same price as this (coincidentally it happened at the same time this was released...😉) and bought it. Great, fully proven and plenty powerful enough. The screen is larger, has zero issues ( 😉), and I'm a happy camper. Patience is indeed a virtue with this wacky retro world of ours.
Really impressive. I'm waiting to have an handled console with 4 to 6 ARM CPU with Windows (Emulation ?) > Mobox style if needed. It will be a blast. That's the future for sure.
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DEEP dive.
*corrections
PES 2013
I love when Taki goes deep for our enjoyment
Wii U?
Can you test (without) old visual novels (PC-9800) on it?
What do you think about exagear?
Can this be played on television? I feel a handheld that can emulate all of this NEEDS to have television/monitor compatibility
I saw kei's unit went to 2.6ghz playing Android games. But high performance mode seems to lower the cpu clock to ~2.3ghz
So glad that you actually benchmark it on demanding parts of the game instead of just the intro. It is really appreciated thank you!
Man the effort you put into these videos are unmatched. I love the way you explain things like you did with how they fixed the screen and the possible implications.
I appreciate that!
Han arreglado la pantalla en el rp4 pro?
This console is not perfect, but the possibility of being able to play the most beautiful 3DS, PS2, Gamecube and Wii games at any time and on a real portable console and at a cost of 200 dollars is fantastic for me.
Sure... but it's more than half price of a steam deck that can emulate even more systems and play AAA title new games. Personally I'd just save up a little longer and get the deck
@@HalfMonty11It has a lot of drawbacks for double the cost. The size for starters makes it a lot less portable. The battery life is also worse. Plenty of consoles to play on a half price console thats more portable and lasts longer.
"beautiful" lol
alot game seem to bug becuz it not snapdragon
@@HalfMonty11I agree that I find the price point a bit deceiving compared to a steam deck (which I have one and my little brothers play with it just fine, you obv can't play on the metro standing, but sit and it will be perfect still).
So I'm a bit confused on this market still, but I will have to inform myself better, because I do miss some old games.
Dude I loved watching all the short game demos. So many of them where cool throw backs to fun games i played a long time ago.
guys watch this video with headphones, the recorded sound in sections where he showcases the games is amazing. thank you so much for this!
Thank you for the in-depth coverage. I was definitely curious about how the older Odins might compare with the RP+.
The golden age of gaming....right in our hands. What a time....
Not really. The golden age was late 90's to early 2010's. All these systems are doing is making those systems accessible. If you weren't there, you didn't experience the cultural Zeitgeist.
@@9unslin9erPS2 was peak gaming. Everything after is a rapid decline. Everything before laid the foundation. Theres a lot of great games before PS2 but PS2 is the golden age
@@9unslin9erand in terms of being there, thats not necessary. Knowing this exists is. People have come to a point of praising games today that are garbage compared to what we had because they dont even know it exists. The recent popularity in retro games by younger consumers will make most games put out today unsaleable and force a new golden age in gaming or the industry will die. These retro consoles are doing God's work
@@9unslin9er That's what he's saying. You can have all those systems in your hands then.
Everyone thinks the best music/movies/video games/whatever was what they experienced at 15. Get over yourself. You are not unique.
I got excited seeing the Pokemon Sword/Shield gameplay being so smooth, sucks that the rest of the open world is lagging so much. I made sure to write down some of your emulator suggestions. Thanks alot
That ps2 game list you tested.. I can't express how thankful I am. That's very comprehensive.
Wow, thank you so much for making this video. This is something I've been looking for since I started looking at buying the RP4pro, and you've done an amazing job showing such a multitude of games from almost every platform I would want to play on it. Keep up the great work!
Even though I already have a Steam Deck like many others to play PS2 and GC titles, I'm considering this portable (after giving my RP3 to my little sister) due to how small it is, making it much easier to carry around when compared to the SD. Thanks for the review Taki!
the retroid or odin will emulate better than your steam deck
@@jeremyrennerfn Steam deck can emulate switch though with minimal issues... What information are you basing this on?
@@InvadeNormandy are you speaking from experience? lol
I needed a hand held whilst I wait for your dedicated hand held system. After watching this video you helped me go with this one over the 5. Thanks Taki.
Well done fella. Amazing work! Thank you so much for taking the time to do this.
this is the best review I've seem about Retroid 4 Pro, so far. You showed a lot of game examples, it seems very understandable how good is this guy
As long I can play Burnout 3 Takedown, need For Speed Hot Pursuit 2, Gran Turismo 4 and Ace Combat Zero, im sold
You got a thumbs up! Thank you for showcasing the performances. Looks pretty promising.
1 hour of taki testing games to fall asleep to
zzz
Thanks for including video chapters ❤
Tks for the review brother! Much appreciate. Greetings from Brazil.
No problem 👍
The greenscreen issue is so well explained and thought-out. Very fair as well to Retroid. In my opinion your are the most trusted reviewer for this type of devices
Thank you.
Switch got me into gaming again in early sobriety 4 years ago. About 2 years ago I got into the cloud and that made me find retro handhelds ironically. I said to myself. "How does anyone use one of these devices?" After a lot of hw and a lot of thanks to youtube I am now "ok" at it and just got s rp4 pro for my early birthday present. The ability to run a lot of roms, the way it runs android games, and with my love of the cloud, loving this thing way more than I thought. I love games and hate the word favorite, but this will be my most used device for sure. It is just TOO convenient for my crazy life, crazy kids, and sometimes crazy work hours. I am blown away at what this thing does compared to my s 23 ultra. Dno if it's the fan, or just the bloatware of flagships, but the rp4 cruises. It even makes my tidal sound better with my iems lol! So happy i purchased this.
Think you confused Ratchet 2 & 3 lol; Thanks for testing these ones out. I was looking to replay the Jak* and R&C series
I had to come back and say that this is the best deep dive video I've seen for testing games on the Retroid Pocket 4 Pro. You actually test multiple games in the same series (God of War, Metal Gear Solid, Metroid Prime, Jak and Daxter, and more) rather than others who just show one game or so per franchise.
Seeing Colin McRae rally 2 was really a blast from the past. I played the hell out of that game when I was a kid
Big big thanks for your excellent videos, I am new to this and your videos are my Northern Star
Feel called out with the screen thing 😅
Touche, you explained your process and reasoning very well, I apologize if what I said offended you in any way.
Great video, great explanations. Still highly looking forward to receiving my pre-order
Appears to be £270 in the UK. I love the formfactor etc. Seems like a real solid system. But it's VERY hard to justify that sort of price, with things like the steam deck at £350.
Where is it 270? For me it's 200? Lol
well, i have been asking for a proper comparison with the d900 model, and you are the only one who has delievered!
this is why Taki is always the review I wait for. i love retrogamecore and ETAPrime, but Taki has NEVER let me down!
thanks!
Are there any games that Don't run on d900 but run on this?
I think for the size and price, this is a remarkable achievement. But it makes me wonder what a future Retroid Pocket 5 Pro would be like. I think we're almost there for emulation and battery life.
Probably 2-3x more powerful than the RP4 Pro.
Maybe they can use a chip similar to potential snap dragon but making it cheaper
Been waiting years for this!
I love my RP4 Pro. I'm actually really glad i didn't grab the RP3+ last year like I was going to. This thing is such a great device and it feels really well built for a so called 'budget device'.
what do you think about the new retroid 5?
appreciate the thorough video, am really fascinated by this device and have one ordered.
am really surprised to see the 5fps frame dips on random games such as 3ds (lugi's mansion 25:38) despite the device handling harder games on more modern gen consoles without the dips.
It would be interesting to see break down different smart phones with this kind of analysis
Amazing review! Could not be more hyped right now
Want to say a little thing about the twilight princess footage
It is common that the game runs very bad in hyrule field, where you made the test, even on pc. There is a famous cheatcode to make it run normal, so i think we can expect that game running all normal with thar litle fix.
Great video :)
That was with the cheat code. I intentionally filmed there. :)
@@TakiUdonwoow, nice move there :)
(So, forget everything i said except nice videos and nice review, more in depth than expectee hehe)
@@TakiUdon i went checkmated
@@TakiUdon damn was really hopin to run some twilight princess, I wonder if other emulators fair better.
Compare to the RP4. I find that the D900 plays most GC and PS2 great and has way better battery life than the D1100. This is kind of like the Qualcomm 888 that was more powerful than the 870, but the battery life is awful.
Fair point
@@TakiUdon I think the RP4 will be the better buy since betting way better battery life. Added: And still plays most GC and PS2 great.
@@rushmore3927 especially for a person like me who doesnt care so much about PS2/GC as much as DC/N64/PSP/DS and below. I think Id save the $50 and be happy. Also. I like RPGs mostly which run easier than detailed action games. The stuff thats hardest to run on GC/PS2 are really not my type of games (GoW/Colossus/Rogue Squadron etc) i dont really play that stuff
@@pleasuretokillproblems 4gb vs 8gb ram , 4gb sucks future Android games
@elisons True, but going back to my main point. Still does great for emulation. Also, less assets are tied up with ram on a gaming device. Phones with other apps, etc is a different story. To me FWIW, I'll take the battery life over a few less games that I'd likely not play anyway. Plus not a fan playing some of those on a 4.7" display.
Nice detective work with the green screen issue!
Thank you, Taki Hot Dog!!! I appreciate you!
By far the ebst pocket sized handheld to date. I don't think anything will come close to this for the next year. For 200$ and being able to play such games at this price point and the portable size is unheard of. Will be top 5 for 2024.
Excellent video as always!
Would love to see a video on audio sync and screen tearing fixes even on non "performance" games like Resident Evil Code Veronica on Dreamcast, or Legacy of Kain on PS1 and Dreamcast. Especially the FMV intros.
honestly the fix for the green screen issue is nice to see. while it technically still exists with the start up logo, I don't think its a big deal now.
Jet Set Radio is a real test for any Dreamcast emulator.
Nice. If I hadn't already bought a used 3+ last month for 100usd, I'd consider this. However, my main issue with the Retroid is the screen size so if I was going to get another handheld it'd most likely be the Odin 2. I probably won't because [1] I have a steam deck and [2] a Galaxy fold 5, for which I just got a Gamesir G8.
Yes, screen is too small.
yeah as a steam deck owner it's really hard to justify getting another handheld when they'll have less power and a smaller screen and or worse battery life. I even got an rog ally and returned it because I like the steam deck more. If I find one cheap enough though it would be fun to mess around with one of these
Thanks man! Definitely make be feel better about my Odin Lite purchase! Still a little bummed I didnt wait for something with a Snapdragon processor, but for the price, still a great device.
I wonder if Retroid will come out with a Snapdragon device?
Taki you’re awesome! Keep up the great work!!
This is the review I was looking for, especially since I already have an RP3+ and was unsure if the RP4Pro would be a pointless purchase. It's good to see that it won't be. The RP4Pro screen also looks incredible.
Cannot wait to get my hands on that one. Also, just to add, the Odin Lite is actually more than $200 on the manufacturer's page. Just another reason to buy the RP4Pro.
Pero la pantalla de rp3 plus tiene mas color que la rp4 pro?
I wish more people talk about TV mode, perfect handheld but also the perfect portable emulation station. Local multiplayer anywhere.
Thanks for the video, very informative.
I'm not an expert, but coming from pc gaming I have to ask, are those temps normal with some ps2 games? 100 degrees look scary.
I mean, is it ok to play for like two hours with those kind of temps without damaging the cpu or battery?
It's the die temp. The critical temperature for this package is 125C, but the device will shutoff if it reaches 115C. Occasional 90-100c temps on the die should be fine.
@@TakiUdon I understand, thanks for answering!
the purple retroid you showed had a really nice screen, at least from the video. I'd love to see that screen on the RP4.
I'm pretty sure this is going to be my main pocket device.
This is awesome. Playing PS2 games in this tiny form factor is so cool.
I've currently got the Retroid Pocket 3 Plus but that's fine I can always buy an Odin or something in the future. I'm fine with what I've got now.
Thank you Taki for this deep dive on the Pocket 4 Pro. If it were any deeper people would confuse it with the Mariana Trench. It's obvious that a ton of work went into making this video.
Unfortunately for me, I watched and commented under the First Look video a few days after it was published. I assume most of this video was already recorded by then because not a single one of my amazing game recommendations made the cut. Maybe I just have terrible taste in games? Ha. Anyways, the one I cared about most was/is "WRC: Rally Evolved" for the PS2. It was Sony and Evolution Studios' rally game swansong and by all accounts they went out on top. My current Snapdragon 845 powered LG phone, the best gaming anything I own at the moment, can't run it well at all. If the Pocket 4 Pro could run it full speed at 1X resolution that would help sell this system to me. Does anyone know how well it'll run here?
A semi off topic question: My understanding is that all versions of the Pocket 3 and 4 series use third party iPhone 8/SE2/SE3 screens. Would a factory first party Apple screen be a plug-in-play upgrade for the Pockets 3 and 4? I'm asking because it's not that hard to find older mainline iPhones and newer SEs for sale dirt cheap that have good screens, but are otherwise inoperative. Or is this one of those things where even if it works it quite literally won't make a difference?
How does docking work? Can we use usb for controllers/other stuff while charging and using video out all at once?
Everyone was saying saturn emulation was bad on this device. And that was holding me off from buying. Thanks.
really good video, super super helpful.
Damn. What a beast. Thanks mate! Cheers!
I like this system because it easily portable but I was thinking of getting the 2TB retro beast card for my Rog ally. Which would be better? I’m new to the retro game system. And just want to play without the headache of trying to find games online.
Do you suggest the rog ally ?
I'd let you be my brain surgeon, what an analysis!👑
The progression of emulation and horsepower per dollar in the last few years has been wild to watch. Wonder how long before "for 199, running 80% of the ps3 library flawlessly is very solid."
Will be a while, not even the Steam Deck at $400 can play 80% of PS3 games.
Excellent game testing!
If it hasn't already been pointed out to you the cpu boost seems to be a power profile issue. During your Power Consumption Deep Dive section, on the Standard setting the 3 lower cores were boosting to 2.6 and the usual 2.6 core was lower about 2.1. I did ctrl+f to see if anyone else put 2600 or 2.6 in the comments and didn't find any.
It's almost 50 to 60 bucks expensive where I live but it looks so tempting. Ps2 on a handheld is a dream. I'll pick it up maybe sometime later this year to see if price goes down a bit.
Great video
This was perfect! is there a max storage that this device can take? i would like to purchase one and have a 1tb storage card for all my games.
It's so damn close to perfection, if ONLY the left stick was on top it would be perfect for me. Here's hoping for a revision.
Absolutely, yeah. It's the way it should have been, since this is mainly for GC, Wii and PS2.
Instant I saw that slowdown during Pokemon went...ahhh yes....3ds Pokemon slowdown during pokemon coming out....love it.
Hi taki, nice video but i recomend you use NetherSX2 instead AetherSX2, because Nether is being updated by the community and adding part of the fixes that arrive in PCSX2
I noticed a lot of graphical issues popping up in your GameCube section and was wondering if this is due to Android or if it was just your Dolphin settings? Would love to see another follow up video of your impressions after a month.
This was the video I needed.
Oh wow, Metroid Prime 3. Dangit. Sold. Unless... I wait for a flip 2 with the same internals.
Thanks for the deep dive video! Although they weren’t the main focus of the video, does this also play SNES, NES, and DS games perfectly?
Great analysis!
Thanks!
IMHO, you did not need to qualify your comments on the green screen issue so much. There was clearly a problem with the display and its calibration both, and you were right to call it out. Even if the company has been made aware of the issue, downplaying it and promoting a fix before it’s been made available to test is absolutely the wrong move, even if there’s a high degree of trust between a reviewer and the manufacturer. It was legitimately surprising to see, and I am glad you didn’t go this route.
I mainly wanted to have something to point back to in the future to explain how I approach these kinds of things and where I think my obligations are to the viewer and to the company. I've never described this process before, so I think it will be valuable to have going forward. I agree with your other points.
In many PS2 games the gpu clocks between 70 and 100 degrees.am i wrong or Is a bit too High?
amazing work, taki
is the watts usage you mention on the power consumption section something to be worried about? or it's high, but normal? I'm a complete power related stuff ignorant
12W is a lot of power for something this small, but it seems to be fine as long as you keep the fan on high for PS2. Even with the fan maxed, it's possible for the CPU temps to go over 100c for a few titles.
@@TakiUdon12w!!! Are you serious? That's something my steamdeck would draw on a 3d game like dragon's dogma. 12w on an Arm processor is obsurd.
guess that rules out an ota patch to quieten the fans then, seems the loud fans are necessary@@TakiUdon
Quick question Taki - hoping to hear back from you for some help on this one - can we use the same exact instructions for setup on the Retroid Pocket 4 Pro as you provided for the Retroid Pocket 2 + ? That was a REALLY great guide and it worked PERFECT for me on the 2 +. I just ordered thie 4 Pro and I am really hoping that I can use that same guide to get it going. Are you able to confirm if that guide is still valid for this device?
Thanks for including some ps2/wii jrpgs. But it looks like next year's(?) processor upgrade would be a better time to get a retro handheld at this price point for PS2 emulation. I'm just afraid the base version would be 199 and the pro would be 249😢
What settings did you use for Rogue Galaxy?
Hey Taki!
Great video can’t wait to get my hands on my RP4 pro. Just a quick question with twilight princess on the GameCube you think with the right settings I’ll be able to play the entire game at a solid 30 fps with minimal skips and dips?
Seeing you play it at hyrule with the cheat code and getting 19 fps really is a let down. I’m wondering because I’ve seen another video and they were getting 30 fps. You think there’s hope for that?
The rest of the game will be at 30, but the field runs like that.
@@TakiUdon Thank you for the reply!
hmm its interesting though because the rp3+ its possible to get 30 fps in hyrule field, i might have to do a lot of research lol. Thank you Taki, Great videos keep up the great work!!
As a guy with a limited budget, this will probably be my endgame retro handheld.
I think the same Bro, in my case I only want it for downtime at the university, its price and capabilities seem perfect to me
@@rubensantiagoguerrerovalle5490 I don't need a Steamdeck, ROG Ally, or AYN Odin for now but I don't mind someday, all I want is to play PS2 and Gamecube with good to fair performance and a pocketability too in a reasonable price, If ever I want to play PC, I will just stream it to Gamepass.
This is not even sdm865 level device, it's just a throwing money to the abyss. Mi or lenovo pad be much better.
@@nobblesavage2848yeah same with my 870 tablet, but the look alike console is what really sales
@@nobblesavage2848 Nope. This is a great handheld.
Dude my s23 fe gaps both of them and in all but the multi core score and that cost me like 150
Hey sir taki, not related in your vid but im super impressed now with Citra mmj, even my phone (a mediatek helio g96) is able to run mh gen and mh3u flawlessly. But a year a go it was impossible.... Kudos to the citra developers. Also the ppsspp emulator which is already great but the devs never stop improving it. That makes my low end android phones that i dont use anymore comes back to life as an emulation machine
My Retroid Pocket Flip has been doing really well as my go to system now, but honestly, after experiencing some issues with my 3DS, I've actually been looking into potential replacements, and the Flip can at least play the games, somewhat. I mainly tried some Kirby titles, and they usually have slow down and stuttering. I feel like every time I look for some new device, it's just so I can retain the games I had growing up, First it was for GBA, the PSP, now 3DS.
I'm glad we can finally play that generation of consoles on handheld, but the fact that we phased out 4:3 screens makes it feel like a wasted effort. It took this long to get ps2 to handheld, and we don't even have the right screen to play it on. Every single game on this thing will either have black bars, or an extra level of compatibility settings we shouldn't have to go through. God I wish they'd just make this in 4:3.
And with 6 face buttons for similar reasons. At least they had the brains (or really, random luck) to put the D-pad and buttons at the top this time.
I just bought a RG405m should I return it and buy this instead?
Damn the review I was looking for, I've got a RG35XX and I love it for the old school classics, but as a huge GC player *Tales of Symphonia, Custom Robo, HM, etc etc** I think this is the handled I will dump the 200$ into. Appreciate the review dude this thing looks like its up my alley!
I also have an rg35xx, I'm considering rp4 pro or odin 2. The price is quite attractive considering what this console can do
That is why Taki is one the best, Thorough his middle name is 🤘
Twilight Princess needs the hyrule field speed hack enabled to run properly. Should run fine on this machine
I pre-ordered one of these a while ago, I cannot wait!
did you ever get it bro how long does it take and what website did you buy it off of
@@CristienTrejo I got it strait from the retroid website, it took about 3 weeks though I imagine it will be faster now that it’s been released.
Awesome video
Thanks!
Was all the games tested at high performance+ max brightness?
What would be the ps1 consumption at standard with fan off?
Great video! I love the long form testing, the more information the better! I have a question, what is the performance overlay app used after 9:20?
Great work! Any idea whether it can play the famous 'Virtual Striker" in DreamCast?
An "upgrade and mods" video for the Retroid Pocket 4 would be very welcome!
Hi nice detailed video, thanks for all the info. can someone tell me though, what is the game on the bottom screen from 1:29 - 2:17 ? cheers
I am wondering if there's an alternate screen with smaller bezels that we can swap? That would make the device really good.
Instead of falling for all the hype, I waited till the Odin Pro 1 fell to the same price as this (coincidentally it happened at the same time this was released...😉) and bought it. Great, fully proven and plenty powerful enough. The screen is larger, has zero issues ( 😉), and I'm a happy camper. Patience is indeed a virtue with this wacky retro world of ours.
Really impressive.
I'm waiting to have an handled console with 4 to 6 ARM CPU with Windows (Emulation ?) > Mobox style if needed. It will be a blast. That's the future for sure.