How to Install a Ceiling Fan Brace
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- Опубліковано 23 чер 2017
- Want to swap out one of the light fixtures in your ceiling for a ceiling fan? Follow these steps for how to remove an old light and install a ceiling fan brace so you can properly install a new ceiling fan.
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0:01 - 0:11 How to Install a Ceiling Fan Brace
0:12 - 0:28 Remove Old Light Fixture
0:28 - 0:35 Knock Out the Old Junction Box
0:36 - 1:13 Install Ceiling Fan Brace
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Excellent! The average UA-camr would've made this video 10-12 minutes long. Thank you for keeping it short and simple.
and 8-9 minutes of it would've been talking about their sponsorships lmao
I 100% agree. No need to skip to the actual information you are looking for. Other DIY UA-camrs should take note of this format. Fantastic!
This is the Zenith of a DIY video. Direct, clear, perfectly explained.
fucking epic
I spent more time reading the comments than the length of this video. What a perfect DIY vid.
knocking out the junction box with a 2x4 was mind blowing for me.
Was looking for a video to send my friend to show him how simple these are to install.
Subscribing because this is perfection for how a DIY video should be. No fluff no backstory into the first ceiling fan braces and how they've evolved.
1:16 of pure instructional bliss.
Thank you.
I doubt it will ever go quite that smoothly, but still very good information
I love the sample instructions:!
No cutting ceiling or opening a bigger hole . Love it
Thanks Gary. I had no idea a product like this existed and was able to pick one up. You’re a lifesaver!
Why can’t everyone keep it this simple! Thank you!
Thank you this video, helped solve problem seeing exactly how to do it.
Awesome, straightforward, direct, short, to the point, clear, simpler instructional video than this comment!
This video is awesome! Answered all my questions and more in 80 seconds. I really really appreciate the demonstration ceiling that shows how to do this with the little amount of working room you have but still being able to get the good camera shots. Thanks!
This has got to be one of the best and fastest no bullshit videos I have seen for installing a fan bracket 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 awesome job !!!!
I am a new home owner. After my last stint in the Middle East, I HATE the heat. Especially while I sleep. Thank you for the video ❤ I am excited to get my new fan up 🎉
Stupid easy! I was about to cut a huge square into my ceiling to expose the joist😂
Ty so much for this video!
Thanks for this video. I can finally visualize what I need to do.
If your attic is anything like mine, you will have piles of blown insulation on the other side of the ceiling sheet rock. Which means you won’t be able to just stick your hand through the hole and adjust the brace to fit between the joists. In this video they have an empty attic above them- no insulation. I had to climb up in my attic to dig away the blown insulation so I could attach the brace. Also it’s easier to just go up and pry out the nails that hold the old box to the joist. Pounding it out wasn’t working for me- It was raining popcorn from the ceiling on my face
i assumed this was for a lower level install where you don't have attic access
@@hkkh7363 It is. If you have access to the other side of the ceiling, there are better and cheaper ways to mount a fan.
@@davidlapierre4058 Cheaper than a $10 brace?
@@vanquish421 The remodel braces as shown in the video are usually ~$15-20, but the point's the same. If you have access to the other size of the ceiling, a scrap piece of 2x4 would be the most basic solution. With the length in question, you can probably get one for free from any home improvement store.
@@davidlapierre4058 Ah gotcha.
That’s how you make a video.Straight to the point,thank you.
Thank you! I’ve been asking the “handy” men I know for a while to fix a ceiling fan that looks like it will fall any second.. your video is so simple and clear that I’m going to go fix that fan myself, subscribe to your channel, watch all your other videos, then see what other things are around my house that I can just fix myself!
Quick, straight to the point. Thank you. Great video
Nicely done. Short, concise, to the point. Full marks
One of the best instructional videos I've seen, very helpful
This was EXACTLY what I needed! Thank you so much!
These kinds of videos are exactly the kind that get people into deep do do when things don't go according to the video! Lolol I've installed dozens of ceiling fans, not one was as easy as it looked on the video. Insulation, vapor barriers, extra nails, ductwork, rodent nests, wasps, wiring, attic catwalks, and multitudes of unforeseen issues are more the norm. Sometimes it goes without too much fuss, but never without any snags at some point. Nice video, but remember it's U Tube!
Negative Namcy here.
Thank you so much for this video. It is EXACTLY what I needed!
Awesome video, no fluff and straight to the point.
Thanks!
Great instructional video, exactly what I was looking for. My existing box broke in half when I pounded it out, but it loosened up enough so I could pry out the nails that were holding it into the studs (so a small pry bar may be needed). And as for drywall nails popping out, the instructional video has a temporary setup and the ceiling bounced as the junction box was struck. With a permanent structure nails should not pop out (unless you swing your hammer like Thor). - Thank you for posting this video!
The only video that explains it perfectly. Awesome video.
This video is not only lacking all BS, but in preparation for the video they installed a section of ceiling, and did so in a manner for easy viewing and understanding whats taking place above the ceiling during installation. This video is just over a minute long, basically telling you no more, and no less, than you need to complete the task listed in the title. Many videos haven't even gotten through their standard intro, suggesting to you (prior to watching) ti hit like and subscribe, and then the ever so silly literally unboxing portion - that in many case actually describes the packaging.
Anyway, thanks for the video and the time that went into making it,
I had an existing metal box, but this trick still mostly worked. I used a piece of wood and a deadblow hammer to break the weld points, and then I had to remove the remaining bracket separately. (Two very well anchored nails.)
Just what I wanted to know. Straight to the point. Thank you.
Thanks for taking the time and effort to get this video for us; I appreciate the crisp content.
a perfect explanation! Thanks a lot!!!
Wow so clear and simple. You rock!
I like how at 1:00 he sees but doesn't mention the problem of the joist being in the way of the new box and him having to cut the sheetrock to account for it.
Straight to the point! Got my Subscription! 👍🏼
great video ! quick and to the point with an amazing cut away to see what it is.
Wow excellent visual. Thank you so much.
SWEET; THANK YOU!
Absolutely amazing video
I did this today. However, I went with the bracket that screws on to the joists since I had access to the attic above. It was a hassle getting the attic piece done with all the insulation up there but it worked out. The fan is up and very sturdy. Next one I may try this one you can install and just twist to tighten. That will save a time and sweat. I was just worried about it not staying tight over time with the fan vibrations
Very good straight to the point
Awesome tips. Helped me quite a bit.
Thank you very much sir very helpful great video
great video thank you!
AMAZING 👍🏼
Great work! Will you be doing another video like this soon?
To the point! I go into the attic and screw in a 2x4 across the 16" on center joists.
Hi Gary, thanks for the info
Went up perfectly.....tks
Excellent video
Really need one of these that show how to extend the box so that it's flush with the top of the ceiling - many modern ceiling fans extend past the edge of the box and this makes it a huge pain to not crack plaster / mount them securely
Exactly the issue I’m having now. Thinking it would require a few spacers above the box to ensure it is flush. Otherwise, you cannot secure the fan correctly and tightening it will crack the drywall.
I would just do it from the attic. But great video straight to the point. I likey a lot !
Not everyone can get to the attic and sometimes it is inside a first floor ceiling on a multi-story house..
Thanks for the video! I was terrified to put a better brace in until I watched this.
Finally a video that just shows you want to do without a bunch of fluff and video of your dog!
I tried a wood block and hammer but it didn't work for me, it only sprung back and made me tired. But with a wood chisel that had a built in handle on it and a hammer I was able to break the 2 plastic places where the nails went through. Wish I would have done that first.
In these cheaply built new construction homes - there are no ceiling joists of solid wood anymore. It's all 1" particle board rafters. With another 2" piece of 1" particle board at the bottom (creating a little lip - of which the drywall ceiling is screwed to). Makes it virtually impossible to use one of those ceiling braces. Unless you set it right Above the lip. Really tedious and frustrating. Almost as much fun as replacing a bathroom fan in an old house.
They are also what is reccomended for if you are adding a new light between joists, which is what I did. Because of the issue of the insulation, I wound up going up into the attic to install it. I basically just need to get it in place and tight enough that it wouldn't move, doing the final tightening from below. Not an easy job.
If its just a small light fixture all you need is an old work plastic box.
Thank you . Finally a no b.s. explanation
isn't the box suppose to be level with the drywall to be up to code?
good vid
Well, that's half the story... now how do you securely mount the ceiling fan bracket to the box?
Best video
didn't even know that these kinds of braces exist. it solves the problem of not being able to anchor the junction box except by screwing it right to the ceiling board. Hope the Home depot has them.
Damn that is easy. Good video
Thats awesome but my attic has Fiberglass type insulation in small peaces spreaded all over my attic which barely has enough space to crawl in it so doing something like this won't be as easy as it looks. But still a very useful video. 🙇♂️🙏
Perfect
Wish and I would have seen this video before I got into the attic!
Attic is the way to go.
I have a client with a condo in our downtown area which is all metal framed. They have a 1 gang junction box in the ceiling holing up their current hanging light. The box is only held onto the stud on one side, the the fixture hangs at an angle. Obviously, if there was wood above the ceiling, this wouldn't be an issue. But I'm looking for a non-invasive way to connect a brace between two metal joists. The only thing that comes to mind, currently, would be to cut out the drywall and use self tapping screws or drill holes and connect the brace with bolts.
Trying to see if there's an easier method to do this that won't require removing a section of dry wall.
Any suggestions?
I wish it was that easy!😹
I know! There's AC vents and insulation and always surprises. LOL
Actually.....
Awesome
Nice video. I have a question: wouldn’t be a regular metal box attached to the beam enough for a 20pounds chandelier?
No because the box is still usually only connected to the beam by a couple small nails. This brace isn't even really the way to go if you can get attic access. Ideally you'd want to cut a 2x4 to fit between the two braces and screw it in on either side, then mount the box to the 2x4 but that requires either opening up the drywall or getting access from above in the attic. This brace in the video works in a pinch.
Thank you I been racking my brain on this one
My hero
We live ina mobile home and there are NO JOISTS OR STUDS around the old junction box to mout this onto. Thought my stud finder was out of wack until il stuck my arm in and realized there wasnt anything to for the brace to grab onto!! Any suggestions?
does this work for a covered patio that has hardboard ceiling? i removed the light fixture and wanted to hang a fan
Are these strong enough to hold the older fans that are mounted on hooks, such as the Hunter Original?
I ask the same ! Installing a new light box and fan in my basement
How in the world do you get it to fit properly when the hole is right up against the joist? Is there a certain type of brace I need? I have the retro brace kit from Hubble brand.
there's a product called ez brace 101 coming to your local home improvement store soon that will make all these hubbell, commercial electric, and westinghouse fan boxes obsolete
Can this be done in a double wide mobile home that is about 8 years old?
Do you just eyeball the centering of the bracket. If it’s off the box won’t line up with the hole.
just trim the drywall to fit then ! The cowling will cover it
@@kameelhuseffi5390Very bad idea in most older homes
A screw on the strap, or the nut to tighten the box to the strap, stripped when I was tightening it. I can't get the box tightened down snugly. Any tips to remedy this?
Yep.. climb into the attic and sinch it down with helper holding the nut below
what size screws are those?
Pounding on your ceiling that that will quickly crack or damage your drywall. 😖
One problem is dealing with insulation in the attic, as it will be in the way of the brace. In addition to the batt insulation in our attic, there is about 12" of cellulose insulation. Getting it out of the way will not be easy.
Reality
That’s why these types of videos are pointless. They need to show this being done in a actual house and how to deal with misc issues like insulation and such.
Nor they show the blown in insulation crashing out of the hole into your breathing mask and goggles that are fogged up from sweating because it's so hot from not having a fan️ in the room! Nor did they play the soundtrack of expletive words used to vent frustration when engaged in fixing someone else's screwed up messes! Lolol good times!!!
Thanks for the video. I have a question. If there is access such as an attic, do I need to put a brace still? Are there other methods or products I can use?
You need a brace of some sort for a ceiling fan. The drywall itself wont hold up over time and the fan would come crashing down. If you have attic access, you can cut a hole in the ceiling where you want the fan, then stick a piece of dowel rod or wiring up through the insulation to find your spot in the attic and you can use a 2x4 to go from one ceiling joist to the next and attach your electric junction box to the 2x4. They make different kinds of boxes for fans that attach in different ways to a 2x4 brace.
@@rodneymoore2610 this was very helpful thank you. You gave a great idea
You can use a 2x4
@@rodneymoore2610If you live in an older house, *do not* cut the ceiling
Nice video but skips over probably the most difficult part of the procedure: how/where to position the saddle on the support bar so the screws line up with the box's holes and so the saddle doesn't move.
That's fantastic! Thank you!!! 👍
👍🏾👍🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
My ceiling fan box was installed with the house. I just removed an old fan and I'm trying to install a new one. For some reason, now I can't get the mounting bracket screws all the way into the box. What am I doing wrong?
Is the box plastic? If so, it's not fan rated. Sounds like one of the screws stripped.
At minute 1:06, when you are fastening those nuts onto those bolts, is that what’s holding the entire box up? What if I removed those nuts you just fastened, would I be able to remove the entire box with those other screws they go into the fan base? I’m trying to remove a old box because the screw they feed through the fan base aren’t long enough.
Just a note that any box should not be recessed into the drywall more than 1/4 inch per code, flush is better.
I wish I watched this before taking a saw to the plastic box and accidentally cutting through the wiring. Up to try attic I go.
do you trust those little pins to hold the weight of a heavy chandelier or fan lol good luck..
What happens if I don’t get the junction box EXACTLY flushed? Will this give me a problem later when the ceiling fan goes up?
knowing my luck this would take at least four hours in my house no doubt
How do you do this if you’re in an apartment and the ceiling is structural concrete?
That's when you get an imaginary one 😂😂😂. I have the same problem
I would say drill into the concrete and use lead anchors
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@@slimmyhendrix4067 wtf. Sounds like you jumping between sailing directions and ceiling fan installation instructions
If your putting one up I suggest using masonry screws to hold up the junction box. There made for Bricks concrete and other hard materials. The color of them are blue and there extremely tough to hold up.
I installed one and my fan came crashing down a few months later
You forgot the brace has to be rated for fan use according to the weight of the fan. You can not use a regular brace.
Ok.......so how does the fan attach to that box???????????????
“To be up to code 🤓” y’all can suck it it’s my house and imma do it how it’s best for me 😂