After following the accompanying, but wildly confusing directions, reading countless “how to” websites, and fighting with this fan off and on for 2 weeks now to get it to spin (and hopefully work from the wall switch as well), I watched your video as a last ditch effort, and VOILA!! 😊 I got it working in just a few minutes after a little rewiring…it seems so EASY now, and I only wish I had found ya sooner!! Thank you so, so much!! 👍🏼
Yay!! That’s so great to hear! Happy you got it all working. Yeah I agree it can be a little overwhelming at first. But once you get it, you’ll know it for sure the next time. Not too complicated and definitely a DIY ( save yourself some money) project.
That’s awesome to hear. I really appreciate it. I try to put information in there that I think people would want to know because it was the same questions that I usually have.
Good info. I got a newer fan that has the remote already wired in the fan. So, you only have two wires that go from the housing through the mounting bracket to the ceiling wires. Too easy. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and skills.
Perfect! Exactly what I needed to help me install my ceiling fan. Thank you! These instructions and the way you presented them made it easy to understand and follow.
Thank you for taking the time, so your viewers understand what the wiers colors are, i watch 5 other videos but yours was the best.the other videos just take it for granted that we know that different colors could be hot. Thank you again. Im now a subscriber.
I really do appreciate that. I try my best to educate while showing how it’s done. I feel that if you can get an understanding of what’s going on and maybe why, they you can use that knowledge for future projects on your own. That’s how I learned. Not just following step by step, but trying to learn about what’s happening along the way and why.
I’ll be installing two tomorrow, looks pretty simple the worst part for me is climbing into the attic, at least it’s supposed to rain tomorrow to help keep it under a 130° up there.
Well, good luck. Climbing up in the attic is never fun. It should be pretty straightforward and I have a couple different video showing wiring for recess lighting and fans. So there’s a lot of resources out there to answer any questions. But you got this.
@@FortKnoxCo super easy install, it took me about 45 minutes to locate the lights and install the braces for the fan. The first fan took me approximately 30-40 minutes and the second one about ten minutes
@@powdertrax9742 that’s awesome to hear. That’s about how it should go. I was installing 7 fans in a new house and did the same thing, first took a little bit and then I just flew through the rest
Hi FOrt Knox. Great vid. to have the same issues as others. I have 2 switches controlling the ceiling light. old light was a standard builder grade. Installed a fan with led light. Ceiling has 1 Red, 2 black, white neutral and ground. I still want to control power to the ceiling fan off the 2 switches, mostly for the light. The fan I can control with the remote. I connected both black to the black of the fan unit and caped the red. I have power but no switch control. SHould I gang all 3 black and red together for switch control? And the light only has black white, ground. I am confused!
yeah it sounds a little confusing. with two switches in the wall you should have two hot wires in the ceiling, commonly RED and BLACK, and then one Neutral WHITE and you bare ground Copper. It starts to get confusing when you have the Two Blacks and Red, White and Copper, The extra black starts to throw stuff off. You need to identify which wires are in play with the two switches. I'd pull out the switches and see what's happening clearly in the box on the wall and which color/wires are connected to the switches. Then you can start to see what is expected to be in play up in the ceiling. Maybe one of the blacks is actually not being used with the wall switch or ? But you should have a black hot and Red hot, One hot for each switch. You can also grab your circuit tester and see what wires are hot at the switches and what goes hot up in the ceiling when the switch is turned on to make sure the same color is going from the switch to the ceiling , I've see some weird stuff where somewhere in the wall they splice a wire with a different color and its not what your looking for on the other end. Once you figure out the power source to and from each switch the wiring should be simple and straight forward. You could do one power source for the whole fan and control all functions with remote, or depending on your fan it may still have the ability to separate the fan and lighting controls to separate switches.
Hey man! Your responses to others questions solved my problem….youre the best! I am connecting to fans on the back porch the wiring is piggy backed to the other… If I have 2 red 2 black 2 white and 2 copper coming from the ceiling.. It’s an older home… do I connect red to black from ceiling to….? SOS 😢
I’m not 100% sure with the way you’re explaining it. Red usually is treated as “HOT” , or basically like your traditional black wire for HOT. But if you have a black set and a red set then my first guess would be there’s two wall switches ? If your able to use a tester and see if the red and black are both hot or which switch turns them on ? That would help with where to start. As far as the piggy backing- the wire is the ceiling will be and usually when connecting to the fan wiring. Black to black, white to white and copper to copper/green. But if your piggy backing to the next fan then you will have in that first ceiling location the set of wires that’s running over to the next fan. So in the first ceiling location you will. Keep all the black together, all the whites together and all the coppers together. So the power is shared to the fan and the connecting wires down the line. In the second location you’d have the single set of wires and do your same traditional connecting of colors/wires. Main thing is figuring out if you want to use the red or the black as your “HOT”.
This is a great video, wonderfully explained. Quick question.. In the junction box, can I use the capped black to my fan and cap off the red.. will that make sure my other switch works..
Which every hot wire you want to use is fine. It will just allow one switch or the other to control the power to the fan. So one switch will control that power to the fan and the other will basically be a switch to nothing (because it’s capped and not connected to anything )
Really love that you're taking the time to respond to every comment. Quick question for you- installing my hunter ceiling fan tomorrow and need to know if the receptacle is only rated for light fixtures and not ceiling fans, do I absolutely have to replace the box with the sturdier metal one? Or will the mounting brace suffice to hold the weight of the ceiling fan? Appreciate the help.
Is the box already in the ceiling? Is it currently just a light fixture in the center of the room kinda thing? Is so and it’s a circular box , black/blue/or grey plastic box, then it’s most likely a “fixture” junction box and meant to hold a certain weight. Most are able to hold a fan or similar chandelier type weight. Newer fans luckily are a lot light than the older cast iron ones. Most are secured by nails into a ceiling joist or some type of secure system. What you don’t want to mount a fan to is an “old work” box or box that just secures to the drywall. That will not hold a fan. The box in the ceiling build by the home builder is usually meant to eventually have a fan on it. You can not use a recessed light box to mount a fan, you would need is a junction box or a system like you mentioned where there’s a crossmember support and circular junction box attached. Recessed lighting is usually suspended between ceiling joist and usually not secured to any wood support.
Thanks for the response! It is definitely a "fixture box" as I actually saw it labeled as such on the box itself. I did not know if "fixture" rated would be good enough for a ceiling fan. It is in the center of the living room (no light or fan fixture is there currently, just one of those plastic caps that screw into the box to keep it covered when it is not in use). House is also a new build. The main concern was that I really do not have great attic access due to the amount of blown in insulation throughout the attic, but it sounds like I should be alright considering the fan is new (hunter 52 in.) and box is likely secured to wood and not drywall.
@@chrisserpico99 yep, from what your saying with it being a new build home and a capped fixture box, I’d say your good to go all day. That’s exactly what you need and what that location in the house was intended for
awesome video. but how would one do it if I want to control the fan with one switch and the light with another switch? I'm looking to buy a bigger ceiling fan and I have been doing some research. I want the same system I have right now with the two switches that correspond with the light and the fan. I haven't come across a video or instructions on how to do. This video is the closest but you left the other switch with no functions at the end. can anyone help?
With the new fans it’s difficult to do that. You will need to specify buy a fan that does not have a remote. If you wire a fan with a remote up to two switches you can usually get them to work but not properly. Black to black and white to white for the fan motor. It will turn on most likely but you won’t be able to control the speeds. And the blue wire goes to your hot wire on the other switch, usually red, and then white to white. But you again will not be able to control the light. They come with the different speeds, different light intensity, etc.
With this fan specifically it could be possible. You would need the two powers in the ceiling to start, black and red. Then wire the fan motor/remote receiver to the one switch and the blue wire from the fan light to the other wall switch. But you won’t be able to adjust the light since it’s just power on or off. If it works you might only get 100% of the lights power and that’s it. So something to consider if you wanted the dimming feature or color adjustments
Red and black in your ceiling are both hot. DO NOT CONNECT THEM TOGETHER. Use only one. Black to black on your fan. Or red to black on your fan. White to white and copper to green/ground as usual. I’m guessing you have two wall switches? Usually when you have a red in the ceiling that’s coming from another wall switch. So one wall switch controls the black wire and the other wall switch controls the red. I have another video explaining this wiring where I drew up a diagram sorta showing how this usually is set up. But in short you only need to use one of those. The one you don’t use should be capped and tucked away from the other wires.
Awesome non BS video. Quick question for you, I have two switches as well, the current fan one is a small little switch with an adjuster for fan speed, do you recommend using that same switch or just use the regular light switch since there’s a remote that we can use to dim or increase and decrease fan speed?
If you’re installing a new fan and it comes with a remote and receiver, I would install the remote and receiver as it suggests or like I did in the video and just use a standard light switch. You will not need to adjust any type of power at the switch on the wall. it does not work like a dimmer to adjust the fan speeds or light. It just needs constant on or off. Then everything will be adjusted through the fan remote, and the new fans pretty much all require that remote receiver to adjust the speeds and light intensity.
@@FortKnoxCo thank you. One more question, this Fanlee fan comes with 16 screws for the blades, I obviously used 15, do they include an extra screw or I missed that 16th screw somewhere?
@@blaneahm9891 yeah it’s not u common to have an extra fan blade screw or two. If it’s 5 blades and it’s usually 3 screws per blade then you will have that extra screw.
Good suggestion. Most houses with a center mounted ceiling light are junction boxes and most are rated for basic or light light fixtures. If your going to hang a chandelier or something you know is heavier than the norm then definitely check and upgrade if you need too.
I have an old ceiling fan without a light fixture and it’s gone dead. Is it possible to buy a ceiling fan with a light fixture? I wouldn’t have to do any kind of rewiring? I’m assuming I just put those two wires and connect to the main wire?
From what you’re describing, it sounds like you are correct. Most new fans all come with a light, it’s also adjustable and they wire up very simple black to black white to white and your ground wire goes to ground. After that, everything is controlled with a remote. So the wiring is very simple. With the light, the wiring to the remote receiver up in the fan is the same except for it has a blue wire that connects to a blue wire.
Great video! I have a question. When you turn on the fan with the remote, is it normal to be in the high setting upon powering on? I would like my same exact fan to be set to OFF when hitting the power button on the remote.
Usually when you have and fan and light option on the remote you can hit the fan speed button and it will turn on just the fan and at the last speed it was set too. Same with the light. Just hit the light button and it turns on in the last setting it was used on. And if you hit the “power” button I believe it will turn the whole thing on fans & light at the last setting it was used at.
I appreciate the video which is very informational. Our fan needs to be installed on the landing of our split stairwell. I was well, flabbergasted (or many other expletives) that I have to climb up a ten foot ladder to get it to change directions. This is such a poor design. I assume that this could be controlled from the Remote Control but, I guess not. Thanks for the great video, zero starts out of five for Hampton Bay and such a crappy design flaw.
Thank you! Most entry level fans have the switch that you manually have to hit to switch directions. But some of the larger fans and ones that cost a little more seem to have that direction feature on the remote. I have that on our fan in the living room. But it’s a “fancy” larger fan. That climb should only have to be made once when installing and that’s it.
@@armchair_mechanic yeah you never know, maybe they figure it out and start adding that to all remotes. It seems they heavily prefer making remote required fans, but still making the switch manual?? What’s with that.
Thank you so much! I had never seen a red wire before so I was really confused. I ended up using my black wire and capping the red wire. One question: soon after installing, I noticed the fan speed decreasing on its own to the lowest setting. I keep increasing the speed but it decreases after just a few minutes. I also downloaded the Hubspace app and the app still says the fan is turned to the highest speed even after the fan speed has decreased. Any advice?
Hmm. That is weird. My guess is there would be a setting or switch that is causing it since it’s happening consistently. I know some fans have the breeze setting and it will raise and lower the fan speed to mimic a breeze. But what your saying sound like something else possible. Id check the fan to see if there is a switch that’s turned on on the fan itself? Maybe checking the remote to see if there is a setting that’s turned on? Or worst case its a manufacture defect and the circuitry is malfunctioning
@@FortKnoxCo Thank you for responding. My remote does have a breeze option but I ensured that was off. Since I was unable to find a switch on the fan itself, I also came to the conclusion that it was a faulty fan and went back to the store to exchange it. It’s been about 8 hours since I installed the new fan and haven’t had any issues yet. 🤞🏼 Thank you again for taking the time to respond and for your very helpful video.
@@Seagull98-wi6ug oh nice! Sounds like you go it figured out. Good job 🤙🏼 & no problem at all, I like trying to help problem solve. We can all learn in the process.
Thank you for this video. I recently installed a fan with receiver and wired it exactly as you did, only difference is I only have one hot wire (black) from ceiling. When I flip the switch, the light turns on, but remote does not control anything. I tried switching the receiver and remote with another unit we purchased but had same problem. Any help is much appreciated!
If you have only one hot wire in the ceiling then how are you wiring the fan? The remote receiver should have a black and white that hooks up to the wires in your ceiling. And the other side of the remote receiver should have 3 wires, like a black white and blue usually. Black and white from the house simply provides the power source and the remote receiver should allow the power to flow through the black(fan) or blue (light) when activated by the remote control.
@@FortKnoxCo my receiver has a black and white on one side with wago wire connectors. I connected the black from ceiling to the black with wago, and white from ceiling to white wago. I then connected the blue, white, and black on other side of receiver to the blue, white, and black from the fan. The switch only turns on the light and the remote does nothing
@@CSH12321 if the switch turns on the light of the fan then there’s something going on with your fan or receiver. The switch on your wall is just supposed to supply power to the fan when on. Then the remote should be controlling where that power goes. So if some how the power is going through the fan and turning on the light there a defective part somewhere. That would be my first guess at least.
@@CSH12321 no worries at all. I know it can be frustrating having to go through all the work of installing the fan just having to replace it over again. Hopefully putting in a new fan will feed the fix.
Excellent video, thank you. I have 3 quick questions. First, is there a trick to tucking all those wires back into the electrical box? Second, the wall switch is solely to supply power to the fan, correct? With these remote style fans, is it not possible to wire one switch for the light and one switch for the fan? I don't want to have to look for a remote just to turn on the light.
Thank you! The trick to tucking in the wires is cutting them to the correct length. You only need 3-5” of wire from the ceiling and the wires from the fan can be pretty long sometimes. I cut those too to about 5” or so. Then just don’t be afraid to move them around. As long as the power is off you can handle the wires with a little bit of force and get them to lay where you want. For the switch , yes. It’s simply just supplying power to the fan & receiver. Then from there you have the remote to turn on both or separate functions. With new fans you usually can’t wire in separately as they are basically made to have a remote now. The motor and light adjustments will only be functional with the remote/receiver. If you want on wire in both separate they still do make fans that have pull strings for adjustments and the switches can turn on the power to either. But they are limited styles and honestly don’t look all that great. Old school looking. For not having to rely solely on the remote maybe consider installing a wall switch/remote. I have those in the house now. It’s like a second remote but in the wall. All functions work from the wall remote and the on/off power. I have a video on those and how to install as well on my channel
@@FortKnoxCo awesome and thanks for the info about the wall switch/remote. We just had our house built and had the rooms set up with two switches for putting in fans. With the new fans it sounds like we wasted a good amount of money on switches.
@@grady_8_creations9 yeah. Same here. New home still have the two switches as a standard now a days. It’s not much more in wire but because of the way fans are now it’s almost a waste. I’m building a casita right now and the fans it 3 rooms are hardwired. It’s a newer way of doing it, running dedicated electrical to the fans so once the fan is installed and the breaker is on it’s constantly powered. And all you have to worry about is the remote. Now switches other than the breaker. Simplifies stuff.
@@FortKnoxCo Good to know. Thanks again for the help. Also, one last question, the wires coming from my remote are already hardwired with connectors on the ends that plug the motor into the remote. How do you tuck those up into the box since it's coming from the fan it's impossible to get them up out of the canopy.
@@grady_8_creations9 hmm. Like there’s no room to tuck in all the wires? You have to be creative sometimes with creating the space in and around the bracket and fan housing. Wish I had that answer for you but every install is usually a little different.
I can't figure out why the new fans don't accomodate both home switches. What if you lose your remote or don't want to use a remote every single time you turn your light or your fan on. How did we go backwards in technology???
They just simplified it by using one power source and using the remote control to adjust the functions. I think they mainly did this to simplify things and streamline it, also the motor functions don’t have to be manually adjusted as well as the light intensities. There’s a lot of situations where you can’t reach up and grab the light to turn it on or to adjust it. And some people use their fan as the main light source so to be able to go inside and have to pull on a cord Seems a little dated I guess They do have different solutions with the remote or if you lose it. I have a video showing how to install a wall switch. That is a remote. That way you can eliminate the remote and have everything on the wall or like you said if you lose the remote, you still have the ability to turn off and on and adjust all from the wall
The problem is most new fans have a remote wired in that controls all of the functions of the fan. So you only need one power source ,one wall switch. They don’t usually come with the option to wire manually the fan motor and the light separate. The other problem is with the new fans you have different motor speeds and different light functions and intensities and will not be able to adjust those with just a wall switch.
There has to be a way to connect that extra wire so that you have a swith for just the fan and a switch for the just the light..because if the remote gets lost or broken..every time you turn the switch its gonna turn both on if the fan was on before you lost the remote it will stay on..its more convenient to have control at the switches for each the light and fan separately.
There is.You have the black white and blue wire on the fan that can just be directly wired to your home. Black to black, white to white and blue(light) to red. If you have two switches you will have the black and red hot wires in the ceiling. But this means no remote is wired in then. Most of the new fans have the remote because the remote receiver will be doing the adjustment of speeds and light intensity. Where as before you had the pull strings to adjust speed and light configuration. They eliminated the pull strings and basically require you to use the remote. But they do still sell older style fans with pull strings if that’s what you prefer.
@@FortKnoxCoI loved your video. We have two switches on the wall that control the fan and light IF we use pull chains fans. This time we bought one with a remote control. This fan had the remote housing already incorporated into it, so there was only the black and white wires coming out from the fan. There’s not a blue one. I have red, white, black, ground coming out from the ceiling. I tried wiring the red from ceiling to black from fan and the second wall switch didn’t work. Is this not an option when using remote control fans?
@@gustavobedoy5514 the red and black in the ceiling are the powers from the two switches in the wall. So from one switch there’s a black that goes up to the ceiling and the other switch has red going up. They both are considered “hot” wires and hot is usually Black. But since there’s two “hot” wires in the same location they use a red just to identify them separately. But you should be able to use one of the hot wires in the ceiling and just cap the other one since your not using it. You should only need one power source going to the fan. Then the fan should have some type of ability to control the power to the fan or light depending on what your doing with the remote. If you wire it correctly and you try both switches and neither of them work then I’d check to make sure the fan itself and the remote don’t have a code that needs to be set or paired together. Because that would be my next guess is that the remote isn’t talking to the fan.
Is the rod mandatory in that model fan?? Is it flush mount capable? I just purchased the Hampton Bay Tyra ceiling fan. The connection does not turn on the fan or light with remote. I have 3 green, 1 copper, black, white, plus those blue, white and black out of that mini box. Plus a yellow antenna wire. All controlled by a single switch. Below that single switch is another single switch that controls one outlet in room. Mine are not side by side.
Most of these fans I’ve seen lately use at least a small 4-6” down rod with the ball to pivot on. If you’re looking for an actual flush mount fan you might need to search for that specifically in the fans description. If you have a black/white/copper In the ceiling and connect according to the video or directions on the fan you should be able to flip the switch on the wall to supply the power (Leaving it on always) and then using the remote to control the on/off functions of the fan and light.
Wired mine exazt same way. Harbor flanigan ii. It turned on for millisecond and shut off. Flanigan ii with remote. Power at connections power at light connector. Returning it and try again.
Yeah, that’s weird. If it’s wired correctly, everything should work black to black white to white ground to ground. It’s pretty much a simple as that. So if it’s not working and you’ve made sure everything is connected properly, I would do the same. There’s been a few people on here in the comments that said they bought some different brands and had the same exact thing happen but after getting a new fan, it worked the way it should. Definitely sounds like it might be a manufacturer defect.
Thank you for this - very helpful! The unit I recently bought is not a standard brand. There are 3 wires to connect the receiver to the fan - red, gray, and pink. The connections from the fan motor are red, gray, and orange - so I would presume the pink wire from the receiver connects to the orange wire on the motor. My question is the 2 wires that connect to the house. My receiver has one black wire ("AC IN N") and one red wire ("AC IN L"), but no white wire, so I am confused as to which connects to the white house wire and the black (or red) house wire. Any ideas?
Wow you do have a unique set up there. The 3 wires red grey pink I would assume it goes red to red , grey to grey and pink to “orange” which I’m guessing is a bad looking pink. So I think you have that right there. As far as the black and red wire in the ceiling there’s a couple things to check. Is there one switch that controls power to the ceiling box? If so I would guess that the black is a Hot wire and the red is not? Maybe they ran black up from the wall switch and have the red returning on the switch? You can check the wall switch, pull it out and visually see what colors do they have attached to the terminals on the switch. That could help tell you what’s what. If there is two wall switches running power up to the ceiling and the black and red both independently work of a switch acting as a hot wire then I would not know what is going on with no wire for those switches to be able to return the power back to the switch completing the circuit. So if that was the case there should be at least one white or neutral wire somewhere for those two circuits. Again checking the wall switch visually can help you see what colors you should be seeing in the ceiling.
amazing that you take the time to respond to these! the ceiling has the 4 standard black/red/white/copper wires. At least one is wired to a wall switch. Not sure about the second switch - maybe capped off red. The black and white from the ceiling need to connect to the black and red wires on the receiver, but I don't know which is which and the instructions don't help other than the "AC IN N" and "AC IN L" tags on the wires! Thanks again!@@FortKnoxCo
@@GK-ff1bu well i really appreciate you watching and commenting. I figured if you take the time to watch and ask a question the least I can do is try and help out. Knowledge is power and I learned from asking questions and getting help from those who took the time. So I will pay it forward. Thanks again
Please help putting a new fan up in my game room and it comes with a remote I'm doing everything pretty good but I'm at a spot where I'm not sure what to do next from the box that controls the remote the white and black wire I'm not sure where to connect those two cuz coming out of the ceiling is a red wire and an a brownish yellowish old looking color and then a black wire is coming that's out too that's capped off and I know the green wire is just the ground so I'm not worried about that I'm just worried about where to put the white in the black wire from the receiver to the ceiling
Do you have two switches on the wall? The red may be the hot to one switch and the black capped to the other? And the brown/yellow sounds like it may be the white/neutral. The green usually does designate ground.
I have a similar ceiling fan. Tried installing today but it didn’t turn on. I noticed it don’t have a ground wire coming out of the ceiling … could this be why it’s not working? I mean I have the 2 green wires connected to each other but no ground wire coming from the ceiling connected to them. I also have just a single wall switch. For now I have removed the remote receiver… and wired this for the light only.
If you have the single wall switch and it’s only hooked up for the light then there’s no power/switch going to the fan itself to power the motor? You need a wall switch/power source to be on and wired into the black and white wires of the fan itself to supply any power to the fan. If these wires aren’t being powered by a switch then you most likely don’t have any power to the fan. You should have a black and white wire for the fan. The green is a ground wire and if you don’t have a bare copper wire in the ceiling then that is okay. But usually the green goes to the bare ground wire. And black to black and white to white. Your wall switch , if you pull it out from the wall and look are the wires connected to it, should have wire wires bound together inside the wall box, black wire on both terminals to the switch.
My old fan used the red wire, so I hooked it up like the instructions said and nothing, so I was looking up in there and found a 3 black wires that were tied together, figured I’d give that a shot still nothing, fan or light doesn’t work…wondering if I have a faulty receiver🤷🏻♂️
Do you have a wire tester on hand? You can test the red wire (make sure the wall switch is turned on). And test the black wires to se where electricity is coming in from. That bundle of black wires probably has a main power in and that’s feeding the other black wires going to another location. So you should have power in one or all of those. But make sure there’s a switch or breaker that’s not off
@@FortKnoxCo I’ll test them tomorrow, what makes me think that it could possibly be a bad receiver is I previously tried installing it in the kitchen where I had just a light on a two way switch…it didn’t work there either, but I thought that may have been to do with the two way switch…and unfortunately the wire box wasn’t strong enough to support the weight of the fan anyways, so I just figured good time to replace that old fan over the dining room table…lol this junction box was properly supported and this new fan is about half the weight of that old 80’s fan…so I thought cool, no harm no foul…until once again it wouldn’t kick on🤔 I was almost wondering if I could just bypass that receiver all together, but then I couldn’t adjust the fan speeds or even turn the fan on because the receiver is basically replacing the pull strings on the old school fans…I’m assuming 🤷🏻♂️ thanks for the reply…I’ll get a voltage meter on those wires and make sure it’s getting power. I capped those bundle of black back like they were and hooked up the red hot wire again because that’s what the old fan was using…still nothing…sorry for the novel here, it’s just frustrating 😂
@@Not_a_channel2 no problem at all. I get what your saying. Yeah it sounds like it could be the receiver. But the only way to start eliminating stuff is to make sure your power is working on the wires properly. Then I’d say the remote receiver is possibly bad. And yes the new fans pretty much require a remote or else. It’s a cool thing except when you want to start making customized wiring plans.
@@FortKnoxCo awesome, that’s my plan for tomorrow then. The house was built in 68, so no telling what shape that wiring is in tbh…lol once again, appreciate the quick response…a lot of you tubers don’t tend to reply so you definitely have a new subscriber in me!
@@Not_a_channel2 well I really appreciate that. I noticed that too. But I really do like trying to help and trouble shoot stuff with people. Not just making the videos but trying to help educate unique situations with others. I hope to one day have a larger platform on here and still have the opportunity to help when people ask. I learn stuff too sometimes from others. I know what it’s like to be able to do some of these things yourself and it unlocks a confidence and independence that’s invaluable.
The wires coming from my ceiling are black, red, white and ground. How do you recommend connecting them to function with the remote? The instruction manual only shows 2 wires coming from ceiling. Do I cap one of my ceiling wires?
Yep exactly right. The black and red go to the two switches on your wall. So pick one that you want to use and cap the other. The black and red are technically both considered “hot” wires or Black on a diagram. But you only need one. I have a video on how to run electrical through your ceiling and in that video I do a break down of this whole thing too.
If I only have three wire in the ceiling copper, white and black then I connect the a receiver that has a black wire coming out the bottom. What’s that one supposed to connect to?
Black/white/copper in ceiling is perfect. You connect black to black, white to white, copper to green on the remote receiver. The fan should have black/white/blue (usually) black is hot for the fan motor, blue is hot for the light function and white is the neutral for both.
just installed a hamilton bay fan and remote works great but when i want to turn the lights using the wall switch it has a 5 second delay and the lights turn on how can i fix this delay i want them to turn on when i turn on the switch
If the light is working, that means that it’s most likely wired correctly. If it’s wired in through the switch and this is a newer fan, it may just be a delay in the fan. I don’t know if there’s a way to speed it up. I know that there is sometimes a delay in the response with these newer fans because there’s some type of computing chip or receiver up there that is processing. So it may just be the way it is. I’ve never heard of a way to speed it up. Five seconds does seem a little bit long. I know it’s usually a one to three second delay sometimes when you hit the button.
Does it have a remote? Make sure the functions on the fan are working with the remote. If there is a physical switch on the fan itself make sure it’s switch all the way over to one side, usually it’s to switch the direction of the fan. And if you still have problems after making sure the wires are connected correctly it could be a bad fan or remote.
I used the wire that went to the switch I wanted. When there is two switches you can choose either red or black and that will go to one of the switches or the other. I looked in the wall to see on the switch itself which wire came off of which switch. I saw the black wire coming off of the switch o. The right side of the wall that I wanted so I chose to use the black wire But either can work, just pick one.
It would depend on the brand of fan. Usually the housing design fits the style of the fan. But generally how the housing secured to the fan support that screws into the ceiling is the same. At the end of the day the housing secured by two screws on the side. So it could be possible to get a bigger style of housing. Might just have to be a little creative
I am replacing an old ceiling fan/light because the fan quit working with a new one with remote like the one in video. Theres no ground wire coming from the ceiling, probably because my house is old. Does this mean its already grounded, if so what do I do with ground wire from fan/light or how to test if its grounded?
Not having the ground wire is fine. Some new fans don’t even come with the ground wire. The ground bear copper wire is technically a secondary safety measure. It acts similar to the white wire. So that if something were to happen for the white wire, you would have the ground as a last case scenario for the electric electricity to find its way out. But you will be fine. Make sure you do black to black and white to white and just tuck the ground from the fan away. I would either snip the ground or put a cap on it just to make sure it doesn’t touch anything inside the fan housing.
No. If you have a black and a red up at the fan then you have two power sources up there. That should mean you have a switch that controls the fan and a switch that control the light. Do not tie both of them together up at the fan. That could cause a short circuit. Use just one of the wires. Black or red. With new fans, you sometimes just need one power source to power the whole unit. You do not need a separate power source for the fan and the light. So use just one wire like the black and make sure that it’s connected to the black on the fan. And then white to white. That completes the circuit for the fan. If you have the red wire up in the ceiling, still put a cap on it and leave it. Then on your wall switch the one that has a black wire to it will be the switch that controls the power to the fan. You will most likely have a wall switch that has a red wire going to it. That will no longer control anything. I have another video on my channel that is a little bit older than this one that explains the wiring diagram that I think you’re asking about. I have a video explaining how to wire in a ceiling fan and also how to run electrical for recessed lights. In the recessed lights video, I use that extra power source, the red wire, and the switch that goes to it to power some recessed lights since I had that extra power available up there. So at the end of the day I had one switch that controlled the fan and the other switch now controlled the recessed lights.
Hi, where us the video? Didn't find it. I am trying to install recessed lights and a fan that has no lights but wanted to have the universal remote control them separately. When I press on, it turns the lights and the fan on with the remote. You mentioned in the video about hot wiring the receiver for recessed lighting additions
@@firehawk95666 you could possibly wire it in to turn on with the light of the fan, the only problem I see with that is the fan is powered, and then the functions are controlled through the remote or some type of circuitry. I believe the gauge of wire on the output of that circuitry to power. The light and fan functions is pretty small. So if you were to branch power off of the lightfunction it most likely would not be enough to power other lights throughout the ceiling.
If you wire the fan without the remote. Then you can wire in the blue to one of your switch powers in the black to the fan motor. The only problem with the newer fans is they sometimes require the remote to be able to adjust the speed. so you may just have on and off but no fan speeds. When your wiring in the single power and the remote receiver, you could turn on and off the fan or light function separately. So if you’re worried about being able to have one on one off, you can do that through the remote. If you need to have or want to be on its own physical switch, you might have to buy a specific fan, one of the styles or just the description, because they still make fans that aren’t made to have remotes
@@FortKnoxCo before bed i tell my Ai device good night it turns of the tv and lights based off a smart switch. if i f have both fan and light into that switch it will turn off both. i was thinking of just connecting the fan to the remote and taking the light wires and putting them on the other switch. do you have any recommendation on where to buy fans? are hoeme depot, lowes, and amazon the best options?
So the remote is not controlling the light anymore? I know if the light is left on and you turn on and off the wall switch it will come on once the fan is powered
You can do that. The fan just needs power. You could have it wired up just like a wall outlet, constant power. And then you control the fan just by the remote as you want. I just wired 3 fans in this casita i built and the power in the ceiling is wired just like a wall outlet. No wall switches for the fans. Just all ran by remote. And when I need to install the fan or work on it I can just turn the breaker off and do your work.
Thank you I installed it just like you did. But I noticed you have a wire tucked into the box. I had black to black white to white and I couldn’t get it to work. Now I connected white to white black to red and now it works and my switch on the wall turns it off and on. However, when I turn it completely off the light and fan it will come back on after 10 to 15 seconds.? Why? Anyone? Thank you in advance.
Yeah. The red wire and black wire are both hot wires. Depending on how your switches are wired you may need to use the red or black. Either are good. As far as the fan turning back on after Turing it off I’ve never heard of that. Makes me think something’s wrong with the remote/receiver. But if you turn off the switch on the wall does it do that still? If the switch is off you shouldn’t have any power going to the fan.
I have a problem with my fan and it Honeywell brand but every time I try to connect the black wire with the remote ceiling fan wire the light won’t turn on
Hmm. Is there a blue wire? Usually the blue wire on the fan is to the light. If your wiring in a remote receiver the receiver should have black and white on one side which connects to the house wires. And the other side of the remote receiver will have black,blue & white. Black usually is for the fan motor, blue is usually the light feature, & white is the common neutral for both.
@@FortKnoxCo one more question. Do most ceiling fans with leds that don’t have this dimming function on the remote. Could you add a dimmer switch to the outlet or is it only compatible if the ceiling fan has this setting already in the brain
@@skylerbauer858 usually it’s only usable through the fan itself. The remote and the receiver that’s wired into the fan control all of that. So adding a dimmer to the original power source that powers the fan would not be recommended. Almost all LeD newer fans that I’ve ever seen have a dimming feature. And now you can get them with adjustable light tones. From 2500k color light all the way up to 5000k colored light.
I am trying to install my hunter ceiling fan using separate switches for fan and the light it has a remote control with built in transmitter. Can you help me with some tips. I am a handy man but this job has puzzled me quite good.
Do you have to use both switches? Because usually the fans now a days that come with the remotes are made to have that installed to be able to control the light and fan properly. Mainly that you want to have speed adjustment and light intensity adjustable, and that is done through the remote receiver. If you run power from one switch (black wire) to the fan -black wire & power from the other switch (red wire) to the light-blue wire, you will be able to control the power to each but won’t be able to control the speeds or intensity. It may not function properly. If you want both features to be controlled by two switched then you may need to install a fan specifically designed with manual controls like the pull strings, they don’t come with a remote and are made to be wired without one
The wiring digram shows the blue wire for light control to be caped if I wanted to be controlled with one switch! In case of use 3-14 the second hot wire to be connected to light wire. Now the two switch are acting like two way switch one turns the fan and light on the other one turns them off.
What if you want to control fan and light on different switches on the wall? I installed mine and one switch controls light and fan but I want to use the extra switch to only control fan without controlling lights. Note I paired black from receiver to red ceiling. Would I have to pair black receiver to black ceiling (currently capped off) and then merge blue (light) receiver cables with the red ceiling?
Yeah, you have the right idea. The black wire goes to one switch in the wall and the red wire goes to one switch in the wall. The receiver in the fan though only has black / white. Because of the way the new fans are made. They sometimes require that remote receiver to control the light and fan properly. The idea of connecting the red or black to the blue, which is usually the power to the light would work, but it may not function the way you want because the fan is set to be controlled with the remote. What I mean is the fan on and off and the speed as well as the light on and off and intensity up or down may not work properly unless the remote is wired in. Usually with the remotes depending on which brand you can turn the fan on or the light on. I’m able to do that with our fans. Obviously we can have both light and fan on. But the remote should allow you to control separately.
If you have a single switch with one red wire and one black wire you’ll use those. The red wire is the power coming back from the fan to the switch. The power “hot” wire from the house is usually black. That gives power to the fan. The black wire running to the fan will have the switch in line causing that break for on/off (the switch). Usually they will run the black and white to the fan and just keep the black for the whole run. But sometimes they will leave the black wire from the house, your source of power coming from the electrical panel, attached to one side of the switch and the other will have the black continuing to the fan. But in some cases they will run the red from the fan to the switch. So you know that wire is the run to the fan. The black is the run to the electrical panel. It’s probably more for identification purposes. Red and black are the common colors for hot wires.
@@travelteam89 correct. The way they used to wire houses and sometimes still do is with two wall switches which control two power sources up in the ceiling. That’s because fans used to be only pole switches and you needed a power source for the light and the fan. Now that everything is controlled by a remote you only need one wall switch, and one power source to power the fan entirely. Then from the remote receiver up there, it splits the powerto the light and fan functions. One remote controls the power source and the smart fan is able to turn the light or the fan speed on the pan on which button you’re pushing. This usually results with having a wall switch that does not control anything. And one that now controls the fan by itself.
Is it okay to connect the blue wire for the fan and the receiver to red wire since I have a red and black wire coming from the ceiling so I can control the light from the switch and the remote?
If you connect the blue wire to a separate power source/switch in the wall you won’t be able to use the remote for the light, just the switch. And you most likely will just have and on & off function, no dimming or adjusting the light. Thats assuming it works, because some newer fans are technical where they almost require the remote control receiver to run the functions of the fan properly. You could try it and see if it works the light and if your satisfied with the function the your good. Otherwise I’d just suggest wiring it in as intended with one power source, either red or black wire depending on which wall switch you want to use. And then just use the remote to turn on the light or fan or both.
@@cfhmadman2011 should be yes. The fan is meant to handle the volt/amps usually in the house wiring. The only consideration would be if the remote receiver adjusts that power depending on what setting you have the fan or light to. So when you wire it directly it may be full fan speed or full light intensity. Just depends on how technical the fan is. They do still make fans that are meant to be wired in directly to two different power sources. They usually are significantly cheaper and have the pull strings to adjust the fan/light.
Yes, you don’t have to have all the wires tucked into the junction box. Most the time they just do that to create more room within the fan housing for the wires coming from the fan. But that’s usually the problem is the receiver up there takes up a lot of that room. They just all need to be secured connections with those why are cops minimum
Please help if you can- I just installed a regair ceiling fan from Amazon, it comes with a remote and light settings etc. Every time I turn the switch off and on or turn it off and back on with the remote the light setting changes. Is there a way for these ceiling fans to remember light settings or is this standard practice to have to go through on the remote and pick the light setting you like everytime you turn the light on/off. Please help, took a while to install and I’m hoping I don’t have to return it. Thank you
The fans I have installed and have shown in my video don’t have that problem, especially when just using the fan remote to turn on and off the functions. If you turn the switch on the wall on and off I could see that maybe that would possible reset the remote receiver in the fan each time and cause that problem. But if your saying that even when you leave the wall switch on, which is preferred, and you just turn the fan light on and off solely from the remote and it still reset to a different setting other than the last one you had it at… then I’d say it’s most likely the fan. I’m not sure how much you spent on the fan or the brand you got but most popular/major brands that you’ll find in box stores won’t have this problem. You can still find Hunter/ Hampton bay/ etc. on Amazon sometimes if they have the better pricing.
Did an install for the YUHAO 52” fan (setup almost identical to the Hampton you did), light or fan does not work. I see in the instructions where it says “make sure frequency switches are set correctly”. My receiver or remote does not have switches. I tried to hold 1, 2 on the remote for 10 seconds like it says to listen for a beep. Still nothing works using the remote. What else can I do? Wondering if you had a solution.
If it doesn’t have manual pin switches to set a frequency code I’m not sure what else you can do other than run through the instructions of how to set or reset. Trying to reset both to factory ? Assuming you have all the wires connected correctly and you have the power on the wall switch on… making sure the fan has power. Most commonly I’ve seen incorrect wiring or the switch wasn’t turned on. Or hooked up to the wrong Hot wire in the ceiling and the fan being controlled by the wrong wall switch. Usually it’s a power source problem to the fan and its receiver box.
Sounds good, thank you for the feedback. I’ll double check the wires to the ceiling to make sure I’m using the correct hot wire. I tried to triple check everything before so I don’t have to go back and redo everything. Maybe I missed something, it is my first time installing a fan.
@@dharris196285 no problem at all. I know it can be frustrating to go through all the work installing and finding out the fan itself is defective. Hopefully it ends up being a simple fix
Have a feeling it might be the fan lol. Had my dad help me out and he used to do wiring in buildings and houses for phone lines. He checked over everything I did and said it looked good. Just to find out it doesn’t work when I try it 😂😂
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This was not a solution as much as it was a video about how to Install and wire a fan. Most new fans all come with a remote and usually require you to have and use the remote to control all of its functions. Because of this you can now control everything with one wall switch/power source and from the remote.
@@bouncetrader I agree. That can be annoying to HAVE to use the remote. You can still find fans that require the two power sources and two wall switches. But they are all manual. Pull strings and everything. Usually less expensive too
My house is 64 years old and so janky I am going to get an electrician to do this even though you explained this so well…..i can see that what will find in the ceiling will be a cluster and I will burn my place down. Very good video. Thanks
Thank you, and you’re welcome. Yeah the older homes can be tricky because if I had to put money on it you’re going to find some different color wires up in the ceiling. They used different color codes back in the day. Still the same idea when it comes to hot wire, neutral wire and grounds. But they key is finding what color code your working off of.
Hi. I was wondering if you could help me with a problem? I'm trying to install a new ceiling fan in my bedroom. But first I have to remove the old one. I have a junction box with machine screws pointing down from the attic. I don't understand why the screws are not in the upward position so that I can remove them and the old ceiling bracket from my bedroom. Do you know why these screws are upside down? It seems that I will have to go into the attic to remove the screws and then install them upward into the new ceiling bracket from my bedroom. The ceiling bracket is being held to the junction box using only the nuts/washer on the machine screws. Have you ever seen this before? Is this safe? Thanks for your help!
I think I understand what you are saying, but it would be easier if I had some type of picture to go off of. If the junction box in the ceiling has threads coming down as if it’s tightened from inside the attic that could be the screws that are holding that junction box to the wood rafter. Sometimes there is a metal horseshoe clamp that goes over the top of the wood, and the junction box is actually secured, when the house is being built that way. Also, sometimes with metal junction boxes they have those threads coming through as an option to have different things tightened down, but may not be an actual use. But either way, if it’s only accessible from inside the attic, it usually has something to do with the installation of the box itself, and not as much to do with, the fan that’s installed on the outside facing the room.
If you’re able to remove your fan, then that would be the first step and whatever bracket is currently holding it obviously take that off. When your left with the junction box and no fan on it, is there any place for you to secure the new fans bracket ? Usually there’s a couple threaded holes to choose from.
@@FortKnoxCo Thanks for replying, Brian! I have removed the entire fan except for the ceiling bracket. There are 3 extra holes on the junction box but they don't line up on opposite sides to secure the bracket.
@@markb1822 hmmm that’s very odd. Haven’t seen a junction box like that. Is metal correct? Would it be possible to drill a hole that could accept a screw? So you have lined up holes for a bracket? Just trying to brain storm ideas to make it work before you go into the attic or worst case you have to swap out the box itself
@@FortKnoxCo This box is metal. Going in order from top to bottom: First, there's the box with the two screws. Then the bracket underneath the box with the screws inserted. Then the washers/nuts underneath the bracket. I was just wondering if the two nuts on the screws were enough to keep the bracket secured to the box? The previous electrician must have thought so. But I've never seen a set-up like this before.
If you don’t have a blue wire on your fan then does it not have a light? The blue wire is just a power to the light. If you only have a black and a white then connect those two and cap the blue one. The fan should turn on power to the motor and speed control. But the blue goes to the light and controls the on/off of the light and intensity of the light from that receiver box.
Did you install the remote? You should be able to turn the light on and off with the remote. And the fan on and off. They both work independently on the remote if you push the fan button or light button. The power on and off button turns the whole thing on and off as well.
@@SeymourKitty that’s weird. Usually on the fan button if all of the lights are off that means that the fan is off. Obviously, it Hass to stop spinning and slow down on its own. But assuming that you have everything wired correctly the only other thing I could think of is that the receiver is not working correctly up in the fan. So it might be a defective, remote and receiver combination. but if you can turn the fan and light on and off all together, that means that it’s obviously communicating to the receiver but maybe the fan function is not working properly. You should be able to turn the fan on and off independently from the light.
It can be done but I believe even if you wired the blue wire on the fan to a separate wall switch like the red wire and had the fan on the switch from the black wire… you may get it to turn on and off but you wouldn’t be able to choose any light features like how bright it is or what shade/tone it is. Most fans these days are built to have a remote receiver installed to control all the functions and speeds.
@@opramolla okay. So the red and black are both “hot” wires. So you can choose one and cap the other. Black to black on your fan/receiver. Or Red to Black on your receiver. The red goes to one wall switch and the black goes to the other. So which ever you choose one of your wall switches will be capped/not in use in the ceiling. White to white, bare copper to your ground/green. That should be your wiring. Then you turn the wall switch on and leave it on and the remote control will control fan on/off & light on/off. Both or separate. The receiver in the ceiling to the fan will be black to black, blue to blue, white to white.
@@FortKnoxCo first: I greatly appreciate you replying!! I tried that though and it still doesn’t work. The fan itself is wired directly into the light that is in my attic, which DOES work, so maybe I have to get the electricians out here to see what’s going on? Makes no sense to me
@@opramolla if it’s power is coming off a power source above it or like you said a light before it, I’d make sure it’s getting power to your junction box in the ceiling. If you have a voltmeter you can check. Turn the switch on or however the ceiling fan is supposed to be turned on or off. And then check those red & black to see if they are getting any juice. Maybe there’s a bad connection or the way it wired off the other power course
My receiver has a white n red wire do I tie my red from receiver to red in ceiling but when I do that my light want fully come on without turning off and on the switch
If you tie the red on the fan to the red in the ceiling then it sound like your directly wiring the fan/light to the power source, so that would cause the power to the light to be controlled only by the switch. If your wiring in a remote there usually is a black and white on one side of the receiver and then a black, white & blue. The black and white go to the black and white or red and white in your ceiling. The black/white/blue go to the fan itself respectively.
@@FortKnoxCo thanks for the reply, so I ended up having to connect the black wire from the ceiling to the red wire on the receiver and cap the red wire from the ceiling leaving me to use the second switch instead of the first one which is a dimmer eliminating that option completely
Thanks for your video! Trying to wire a ceiling fan with remote wired to a wall switch. The wall switch just turns the power off and on and the remote allows me to work both the light and fan by the remote. From ceiling: black, white, blue, ground and remote black and white one side, black, white and blue on the other. So far have only been able to get the fan to work. How do I wire it to make the light work? Have spent an entire day trying to figure it out. I’m a 69 yo female senior trying to do it myself. Any help would be greatly appreciated as I’m ready to rip my hair out and slam my head into the wall. Extremely frustrating! Thank you to anyone who can help!!
Up in the ceiling in the house, you should have a black and white and copper ground wire. Those black and white wires should go to the black and white side of the remote that goes in the fan base. On the other side of the remote that goes in the fan base should be the black white and blue wire. That goes to the black and white and blue wires on the fan itself. The blue wire specifically is the power to the light and that’s why it goes to the fan. The power from the house, which is just the black and white by itself supplies power to the whole system. Outside the other end of the remote Receiver Goes the power to the fan or the light. I hope that makes sense.
The fan itself should be the only thing that also has a blue wire. The fan has black, white and blue. The remote has a black white and blue. Those all go together. On the other side, there should be just a black and white, which goes to just the black and white in the ceiling of your house. That black and white wire in the ceiling of your house goes down to the switch that turns on and off the power.
Thank you so much for this info! I really appreciate it. I will need to reread and process it a few times.🤣. I’m a visual learner, so will need to draw it out.😉😁 Thanks again!
I also have a blue wire coming out of the ceiling. Where does that one go? I have 3 switches at the wall. One goes to overhead ceiling LED’s. One switch turned the fan off and on. The third does NOT operate a receptacle, so there may be one switch for fan light and the other for fan. Not too smart of me not to take pics before pulling the wires apart. Thanks again for any assistance. I tried to find wiring diagrams but wasn’t able to find one matching my situation.
Does it have a remote installed? If your using a remote and the speeds won’t adjust then it sounds like your remote receiver that’s wired into the base of the fan is bad. You might need to change that out for a new one
@@FortKnoxCo Yes, it does have a remote for the fan. I just installed the fan yesterday afternoon. I guess it is possible that the receiver is bad. Any other possibilities?
@@tylerreese9064 depending on the model of the fan, I’m assuming it’s a newer model and it came with the remote? The speeds are usually controlled by the remote receiver. Older models used to have that pull chain that you’d pull down to turn on and adjust speeds on the motor. Now they don’t have that and rely on the remote receiver to adjust that
@@tylerreese9064 if it’s wired in correctly I’m not sure what else would cause the fan to be stuck on one speed. The receiver only needs power to operate. Everything else is internal from that point forward
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If the remote is installed it will only accept one power source to power the remote receiver. And this usually means the fan is wired to accept a remote and not be wired up with two power sourced/switches. Because if you don’t have a remote to control fan speeds or light brightness you have no manual way to adjust these features. You would need to buy a non remote fan with manual pull strings. No remote at all though. I think you may need to choose between a fan with remote and one switch to power or full manual fan.
@@FortKnoxCo I was installing 2 fans for someone and the fans don’t have pull cords only a remote..but since it’s a new build the house is predestined with 2 switches, so was looking for a solution to have a remote and 2 switches…but they had to opt out and have a dead switch on the wall…this is a super flaw with modern fans
@@Itsjustdom_ most builders run those two switches, black wire, and red wire up into the ceiling as a convenience. It’s nice to have that extra power source up in the ceiling in case you need it for something. It’s common practice now, but used to be an upgrade for builders to do that, but having that switch and capped off power in the ceiling is not a bad thing. It’s just an extra for now. What I’ve done in the past. If there isn’t recessed lighting in the ceiling of that room is use that power to run out to the recessed lights that I install and I can have recessed lights that turn on from that switch, and the other one obviously controls the power to the fan. I have a video further back in my library of me doing just this. I had a dead switch that wasn’t being used for anything, and I ran that power over to a series of lights. It made it very easy to add recessed lights to the room.
@@FortKnoxCo it would be convenient if the room didn’t already have recessed lighting so the expanding is limited with that..if they don’t want a dead switch now drywall repair has to be done..they should have just made it with 1 switch with the 14/3 instead of 2 switches, that would have been smarter
@@Itsjustdom_ yeah. That could have been planned ahead with the builder i guess . Run the wire so it’s there but done install the extra stuff until you need it.
As long as your fan has a black and a blue wire you should be able to wire that to your house wire Black to black and red to blue. Obviously white to white. The black wire will control the fan motor and the blue wire will control the light. The only thing is that the fan speeds and the light intensity will not be able to be adjusted since those are controlled through the remote and receiver in the fan. Because normally you would have pull strings on the fan to control those functions. Your best bet if you don’t want a remote controlled fan is to buy one that is not meant to have a remote, they come with the pull strings to function the fan and light and are specifically made to wire in the traditional way and be manually controlled. They are also usually lower priced as well since your not buying it for the remote function.
Not sure what you mean but this is showing how to install and wire a fan that has a remote. The fan works perfectly after installation and you have the remote to control the speeds and brightness of the light.
@@FortKnoxCo just installed this fan, but now my switch doesn’t work. Should the fan only work via the remote now? Or should the wall switch and the remote control the fan?
@@jai7985 if you wired in the receiver I’ll in the fan base correctly then you should be able to turn the wall switch on or in it’s on position. Then you use the remote to turn on the fan light or speeds. The switch provides the power. The remote controls the fan from that point on.
Same issue. I had two switches. One for the light and one for the fan. So now I just have one working switch that controls the light and the fan. The other switch on the wall that used to control the fan is just dead now? How can I fix this?
@@jessicadekeyser3604 you now have freed up one power source up in the ceiling. A lot of houses have two switches on the wall that can control light and fan. But most fans no a days have an all in one feature where it’s controlled by the fan/remote and it only need one power source. So this leaves an extra switch on the wall not being used. That is what it is. It’s just extra for future needs possibly. For example, one of my earlier videos about “how to run electrical through the ceiling” I use an extra switch in our gym and run that power to some can lights to add more recessed lighting in the room. So the fan was on one switch and the other switch just went to a wire up in the fan junction box that was capped and not in use. I took that unused wire and jumped it over to some recessed lights and since it was already up in the ceiling and controlled by a switch on the wall it made this process super convenient. The hard work was already done since the electrical was up in the ceiling and it was connected to its own switch. I decided to put it to use and add more lighting separate from the fan.
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Depending on how old the batteries are you may need to change the batteries in the remote. I notice when it works intermittently it’s because the batteries are getting weak. If that’s not the issue you may have a bad wire connection. If it works sometimes but not others it could be the connecting wires or a bad remote/reciever.
After following the accompanying, but wildly confusing directions, reading countless “how to” websites, and fighting with this fan off and on for 2 weeks now to get it to spin (and hopefully work from the wall switch as well), I watched your video as a last ditch effort, and VOILA!! 😊 I got it working in just a few minutes after a little rewiring…it seems so EASY now, and I only wish I had found ya sooner!! Thank you so, so much!! 👍🏼
Yay!! That’s so great to hear! Happy you got it all working. Yeah I agree it can be a little overwhelming at first. But once you get it, you’ll know it for sure the next time. Not too complicated and definitely a DIY ( save yourself some money) project.
You explained this process better than the previous 10 videos I watched. Thank You!!!!!!!!❤
That’s awesome to hear. I really appreciate it. I try to put information in there that I think people would want to know because it was the same questions that I usually have.
Literally going to wire my fan with this video that was BETTER than the manual it came with!
This was super helpful as I'm a visual learner. You skipped over the easy stuff and got to the point. Thank you!
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Finally a video that helped me with 4 wires coming from ceiling and only 3 wires from my new ceiling fan with light kit and remote. Thank you so much.
You’re very welcome!!
Good info. I got a newer fan that has the remote already wired in the fan. So, you only have two wires that go from the housing through the mounting bracket to the ceiling wires. Too easy. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and skills.
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Just installed my fan that looks almost the same as this one. Thanks to you the wiring was simple!!
That’s awesome to hear. Happy you got it done. Good job!
Top notch video with guidance. Very helpful. Only one video I found with clear explanations. Thank you.
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Perfect! Exactly what I needed to help me install my ceiling fan. Thank you! These instructions and the way you presented them made it easy to understand and follow.
Thank you! I really appreciate that. I’m happy I could help!
Thank you so much for your clear directions. I was able to installed my fan.
That’s great to hear! Your welcome 🤙🏼
Thank you for taking the time, so your viewers understand what the wiers colors are, i watch 5 other videos but yours was the best.the other videos just take it for granted that we know that different colors could be hot. Thank you again. Im now a subscriber.
I really do appreciate that. I try my best to educate while showing how it’s done. I feel that if you can get an understanding of what’s going on and maybe why, they you can use that knowledge for future projects on your own. That’s how I learned. Not just following step by step, but trying to learn about what’s happening along the way and why.
You saved my life thank you for breaking it down step by step thank you for this great
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Thank you so much for your thorough explanation of everything!!
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I’ll be installing two tomorrow, looks pretty simple the worst part for me is climbing into the attic, at least it’s supposed to rain tomorrow to help keep it under a 130° up there.
Well, good luck. Climbing up in the attic is never fun. It should be pretty straightforward and I have a couple different video showing wiring for recess lighting and fans. So there’s a lot of resources out there to answer any questions. But you got this.
@@FortKnoxCo super easy install, it took me about 45 minutes to locate the lights and install the braces for the fan. The first fan took me approximately 30-40 minutes and the second one about ten minutes
@@powdertrax9742 that’s awesome to hear. That’s about how it should go. I was installing 7 fans in a new house and did the same thing, first took a little bit and then I just flew through the rest
Your instructions are so easy to follow! Thank you!
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Thank you. That means a lot. I try to make good videos people will find helpful.
Amazing.. in detailed, was so easy to install.
That’s great to hear. Happy I could be of help !
Hi FOrt Knox. Great vid. to have the same issues as others. I have 2 switches controlling the ceiling light. old light was a standard builder grade. Installed a fan with led light. Ceiling has 1 Red, 2 black, white neutral and ground. I still want to control power to the ceiling fan off the 2 switches, mostly for the light. The fan I can control with the remote. I connected both black to the black of the fan unit and caped the red. I have power but no switch control. SHould I gang all 3 black and red together for switch control? And the light only has black white, ground. I am confused!
yeah it sounds a little confusing.
with two switches in the wall you should have two hot wires in the ceiling, commonly RED and BLACK, and then one Neutral WHITE and you bare ground Copper.
It starts to get confusing when you have the Two Blacks and Red, White and Copper, The extra black starts to throw stuff off. You need to identify which wires are in play with the two switches. I'd pull out the switches and see what's happening clearly in the box on the wall and which color/wires are connected to the switches. Then you can start to see what is expected to be in play up in the ceiling. Maybe one of the blacks is actually not being used with the wall switch or ? But you should have a black hot and Red hot, One hot for each switch.
You can also grab your circuit tester and see what wires are hot at the switches and what goes hot up in the ceiling when the switch is turned on to make sure the same color is going from the switch to the ceiling , I've see some weird stuff where somewhere in the wall they splice a wire with a different color and its not what your looking for on the other end.
Once you figure out the power source to and from each switch the wiring should be simple and straight forward. You could do one power source for the whole fan and control all functions with remote, or depending on your fan it may still have the ability to separate the fan and lighting controls to separate switches.
Hey man! Your responses to others questions solved my problem….youre the best!
I am connecting to fans on the back porch the wiring is piggy backed to the other…
If I have 2 red 2 black 2 white and 2 copper coming from the ceiling..
It’s an older home… do I connect red to black from ceiling to….?
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I’m not 100% sure with the way you’re explaining it.
Red usually is treated as “HOT” , or basically like your traditional black wire for HOT. But if you have a black set and a red set then my first guess would be there’s two wall switches ? If your able to use a tester and see if the red and black are both hot or which switch turns them on ? That would help with where to start.
As far as the piggy backing- the wire is the ceiling will be and usually when connecting to the fan wiring. Black to black, white to white and copper to copper/green. But if your piggy backing to the next fan then you will have in that first ceiling location the set of wires that’s running over to the next fan. So in the first ceiling location you will. Keep all the black together, all the whites together and all the coppers together. So the power is shared to the fan and the connecting wires down the line.
In the second location you’d have the single set of wires and do your same traditional connecting of colors/wires.
Main thing is figuring out if you want to use the red or the black as your “HOT”.
This is a great video, wonderfully explained. Quick question.. In the junction box, can I use the capped black to my fan and cap off the red.. will that make sure my other switch works..
Which every hot wire you want to use is fine. It will just allow one switch or the other to control the power to the fan. So one switch will control that power to the fan and the other will basically be a switch to nothing (because it’s capped and not connected to anything )
Really love that you're taking the time to respond to every comment.
Quick question for you- installing my hunter ceiling fan tomorrow and need to know if the receptacle is only rated for light fixtures and not ceiling fans, do I absolutely have to replace the box with the sturdier metal one? Or will the mounting brace suffice to hold the weight of the ceiling fan?
Appreciate the help.
Is the box already in the ceiling? Is it currently just a light fixture in the center of the room kinda thing? Is so and it’s a circular box , black/blue/or grey plastic box, then it’s most likely a “fixture” junction box and meant to hold a certain weight. Most are able to hold a fan or similar chandelier type weight. Newer fans luckily are a lot light than the older cast iron ones. Most are secured by nails into a ceiling joist or some type of secure system.
What you don’t want to mount a fan to is an “old work” box or box that just secures to the drywall. That will not hold a fan.
The box in the ceiling build by the home builder is usually meant to eventually have a fan on it. You can not use a recessed light box to mount a fan, you would need is a junction box or a system like you mentioned where there’s a crossmember support and circular junction box attached. Recessed lighting is usually suspended between ceiling joist and usually not secured to any wood support.
Thanks for the response! It is definitely a "fixture box" as I actually saw it labeled as such on the box itself. I did not know if "fixture" rated would be good enough for a ceiling fan. It is in the center of the living room (no light or fan fixture is there currently, just one of those plastic caps that screw into the box to keep it covered when it is not in use). House is also a new build.
The main concern was that I really do not have great attic access due to the amount of blown in insulation throughout the attic, but it sounds like I should be alright considering the fan is new (hunter 52 in.) and box is likely secured to wood and not drywall.
@@chrisserpico99 yep, from what your saying with it being a new build home and a capped fixture box, I’d say your good to go all day. That’s exactly what you need and what that location in the house was intended for
Excellent red wire explanation~
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Very helpful video. Clear and concise.
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awesome video. but how would one do it if I want to control the fan with one switch and the light with another switch? I'm looking to buy a bigger ceiling fan and I have been doing some research. I want the same system I have right now with the two switches that correspond with the light and the fan. I haven't come across a video or instructions on how to do. This video is the closest but you left the other switch with no functions at the end. can anyone help?
With the new fans it’s difficult to do that. You will need to specify buy a fan that does not have a remote. If you wire a fan with a remote up to two switches you can usually get them to work but not properly. Black to black and white to white for the fan motor. It will turn on most likely but you won’t be able to control the speeds. And the blue wire goes to your hot wire on the other switch, usually red, and then white to white. But you again will not be able to control the light. They come with the different speeds, different light intensity, etc.
Excellent video. Saved me time and money.
That’s awesome. I’m happy it was helpful 🤙🏼
You saved my life
Thank you so much
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Great video brother! Can you post the link to the video when you mentioned of installing recessed/can lights when using the existing fan wires?
Yeah no problem, I just added their links in the bottom of this video description. Should be direct links to two different videos showing the process.
Thank you for this video. For this fan, is it possible to connect the light to one switch and the motor of the fan to the other switch?
With this fan specifically it could be possible. You would need the two powers in the ceiling to start, black and red. Then wire the fan motor/remote receiver to the one switch and the blue wire from the fan light to the other wall switch.
But you won’t be able to adjust the light since it’s just power on or off. If it works you might only get 100% of the lights power and that’s it. So something to consider if you wanted the dimming feature or color adjustments
@@FortKnoxCo Thank so much for your quick reply and advice.
@@fernandof.9103 your very welcome
From the ceiling I have a red wire too, which you don’t have in your ceiling. Do I connect the red and black ceiling wires to the black fan wire?
Red and black in your ceiling are both hot. DO NOT CONNECT THEM TOGETHER.
Use only one. Black to black on your fan. Or red to black on your fan.
White to white and copper to green/ground as usual.
I’m guessing you have two wall switches? Usually when you have a red in the ceiling that’s coming from another wall switch. So one wall switch controls the black wire and the other wall switch controls the red. I have another video explaining this wiring where I drew up a diagram sorta showing how this usually is set up. But in short you only need to use one of those. The one you don’t use should be capped and tucked away from the other wires.
Awesome video, thanks for the help!
Your welcome 🤙🏼
Awesome non BS video. Quick question for you, I have two switches as well, the current fan one is a small little switch with an adjuster for fan speed, do you recommend using that same switch or just use the regular light switch since there’s a remote that we can use to dim or increase and decrease fan speed?
If you’re installing a new fan and it comes with a remote and receiver, I would install the remote and receiver as it suggests or like I did in the video and just use a standard light switch. You will not need to adjust any type of power at the switch on the wall. it does not work like a dimmer to adjust the fan speeds or light.
It just needs constant on or off. Then everything will be adjusted through the fan remote, and the new fans pretty much all require that remote receiver to adjust the speeds and light intensity.
@@FortKnoxCo thank you. One more question, this Fanlee fan comes with 16 screws for the blades, I obviously used 15, do they include an extra screw or I missed that 16th screw somewhere?
@@blaneahm9891 yeah it’s not u common to have an extra fan blade screw or two. If it’s 5 blades and it’s usually 3 screws per blade then you will have that extra screw.
Great explanation. Was glad to find this!
Thank you! I appreciate that.
You should check to be sure the ceiling junction box is fan rated for weight and torque and not just a light fixture box.
Good suggestion. Most houses with a center mounted ceiling light are junction boxes and most are rated for basic or light light fixtures. If your going to hang a chandelier or something you know is heavier than the norm then definitely check and upgrade if you need too.
I have an old ceiling fan without a light fixture and it’s gone dead. Is it possible to buy a ceiling fan with a light fixture? I wouldn’t have to do any kind of rewiring? I’m assuming I just put those two wires and connect to the main wire?
From what you’re describing, it sounds like you are correct. Most new fans all come with a light, it’s also adjustable and they wire up very simple black to black white to white and your ground wire goes to ground. After that, everything is controlled with a remote. So the wiring is very simple. With the light, the wiring to the remote receiver up in the fan is the same except for it has a blue wire that connects to a blue wire.
Great video! I have a question. When you turn on the fan with the remote, is it normal to be in the high setting upon powering on? I would like my same exact fan to be set to OFF when hitting the power button on the remote.
Usually when you have and fan and light option on the remote you can hit the fan speed button and it will turn on just the fan and at the last speed it was set too. Same with the light. Just hit the light button and it turns on in the last setting it was used on. And if you hit the “power” button I believe it will turn the whole thing on fans & light at the last setting it was used at.
At least that’s how it’s been working with this fan I installed in the video. I have 4 of them in our home and they remote works the same with all.
Exelent video. Thank you so much.
Your very welcome
I appreciate the video which is very informational. Our fan needs to be installed on the landing of our split stairwell. I was well, flabbergasted (or many other expletives) that I have to climb up a ten foot ladder to get it to change directions. This is such a poor design. I assume that this could be controlled from the Remote Control but, I guess not. Thanks for the great video, zero starts out of five for Hampton Bay and such a crappy design flaw.
Thank you! Most entry level fans have the switch that you manually have to hit to switch directions. But some of the larger fans and ones that cost a little more seem to have that direction feature on the remote. I have that on our fan in the living room. But it’s a “fancy” larger fan. That climb should only have to be made once when installing and that’s it.
Btw - I also wrote a rather scathing email to our local Home Depot. No way of telling how many deaf ears that will fall upon. Lol
@@armchair_mechanic yeah you never know, maybe they figure it out and start adding that to all remotes. It seems they heavily prefer making remote required fans, but still making the switch manual?? What’s with that.
Thank you so much! I had never seen a red wire before so I was really confused. I ended up using my black wire and capping the red wire. One question: soon after installing, I noticed the fan speed decreasing on its own to the lowest setting. I keep increasing the speed but it decreases after just a few minutes. I also downloaded the Hubspace app and the app still says the fan is turned to the highest speed even after the fan speed has decreased. Any advice?
Hmm. That is weird. My guess is there would be a setting or switch that is causing it since it’s happening consistently. I know some fans have the breeze setting and it will raise and lower the fan speed to mimic a breeze. But what your saying sound like something else possible.
Id check the fan to see if there is a switch that’s turned on on the fan itself? Maybe checking the remote to see if there is a setting that’s turned on?
Or worst case its a manufacture defect and the circuitry is malfunctioning
@@FortKnoxCo Thank you for responding. My remote does have a breeze option but I ensured that was off. Since I was unable to find a switch on the fan itself, I also came to the conclusion that it was a faulty fan and went back to the store to exchange it. It’s been about 8 hours since I installed the new fan and haven’t had any issues yet. 🤞🏼
Thank you again for taking the time to respond and for your very helpful video.
@@Seagull98-wi6ug oh nice! Sounds like you go it figured out. Good job 🤙🏼 & no problem at all, I like trying to help problem solve. We can all learn in the process.
Thank you for this video. I recently installed a fan with receiver and wired it exactly as you did, only difference is I only have one hot wire (black) from ceiling.
When I flip the switch, the light turns on, but remote does not control anything. I tried switching the receiver and remote with another unit we purchased but had same problem. Any help is much appreciated!
If you have only one hot wire in the ceiling then how are you wiring the fan? The remote receiver should have a black and white that hooks up to the wires in your ceiling. And the other side of the remote receiver should have 3 wires, like a black white and blue usually.
Black and white from the house simply provides the power source and the remote receiver should allow the power to flow through the black(fan) or blue (light) when activated by the remote control.
@@FortKnoxCo my receiver has a black and white on one side with wago wire connectors. I connected the black from ceiling to the black with wago, and white from ceiling to white wago. I then connected the blue, white, and black on other side of receiver to the blue, white, and black from the fan. The switch only turns on the light and the remote does nothing
@@CSH12321 if the switch turns on the light of the fan then there’s something going on with your fan or receiver.
The switch on your wall is just supposed to supply power to the fan when on. Then the remote should be controlling where that power goes. So if some how the power is going through the fan and turning on the light there a defective part somewhere. That would be my first guess at least.
@@FortKnoxCo yeah I had a feeling this was the case, we’ll try switching out the fans today. Thank you very much for the replies!
@@CSH12321 no worries at all. I know it can be frustrating having to go through all the work of installing the fan just having to replace it over again. Hopefully putting in a new fan will feed the fix.
Thank some much,you video helped 😅
That’s great to hear. I’m happy I could be of help.
Excellent video, thank you. I have 3 quick questions. First, is there a trick to tucking all those wires back into the electrical box? Second, the wall switch is solely to supply power to the fan, correct? With these remote style fans, is it not possible to wire one switch for the light and one switch for the fan? I don't want to have to look for a remote just to turn on the light.
Thank you!
The trick to tucking in the wires is cutting them to the correct length. You only need 3-5” of wire from the ceiling and the wires from the fan can be pretty long sometimes. I cut those too to about 5” or so. Then just don’t be afraid to move them around. As long as the power is off you can handle the wires with a little bit of force and get them to lay where you want.
For the switch , yes. It’s simply just supplying power to the fan & receiver. Then from there you have the remote to turn on both or separate functions. With new fans you usually can’t wire in separately as they are basically made to have a remote now. The motor and light adjustments will only be functional with the remote/receiver.
If you want on wire in both separate they still do make fans that have pull strings for adjustments and the switches can turn on the power to either. But they are limited styles and honestly don’t look all that great. Old school looking.
For not having to rely solely on the remote maybe consider installing a wall switch/remote. I have those in the house now. It’s like a second remote but in the wall. All functions work from the wall remote and the on/off power.
I have a video on those and how to install as well on my channel
@@FortKnoxCo awesome and thanks for the info about the wall switch/remote. We just had our house built and had the rooms set up with two switches for putting in fans. With the new fans it sounds like we wasted a good amount of money on switches.
@@grady_8_creations9 yeah. Same here. New home still have the two switches as a standard now a days. It’s not much more in wire but because of the way fans are now it’s almost a waste.
I’m building a casita right now and the fans it 3 rooms are hardwired. It’s a newer way of doing it, running dedicated electrical to the fans so once the fan is installed and the breaker is on it’s constantly powered. And all you have to worry about is the remote. Now switches other than the breaker. Simplifies stuff.
@@FortKnoxCo Good to know. Thanks again for the help. Also, one last question, the wires coming from my remote are already hardwired with connectors on the ends that plug the motor into the remote. How do you tuck those up into the box since it's coming from the fan it's impossible to get them up out of the canopy.
@@grady_8_creations9 hmm. Like there’s no room to tuck in all the wires? You have to be creative sometimes with creating the space in and around the bracket and fan housing. Wish I had that answer for you but every install is usually a little different.
These instructions also work for Hampton Bay 52 inch ceiling fan Hollis model number 52198
Yep. The steps to installing a fan are pretty universal.
Excellent and helpful video.
Thank you I appreciate the comment. Happy I could be of some help.
I can't figure out why the new fans don't accomodate both home switches. What if you lose your remote or don't want to use a remote every single time you turn your light or your fan on. How did we go backwards in technology???
They just simplified it by using one power source and using the remote control to adjust the functions. I think they mainly did this to simplify things and streamline it, also the motor functions don’t have to be manually adjusted as well as the light intensities. There’s a lot of situations where you can’t reach up and grab the light to turn it on or to adjust it. And some people use their fan as the main light source so to be able to go inside and have to pull on a cord Seems a little dated I guess
They do have different solutions with the remote or if you lose it. I have a video showing how to install a wall switch. That is a remote. That way you can eliminate the remote and have everything on the wall or like you said if you lose the remote, you still have the ability to turn off and on and adjust all from the wall
If you do it this way the entire unit only runs off of one light switch correct? What if you want to use both switches
The problem is most new fans have a remote wired in that controls all of the functions of the fan. So you only need one power source ,one wall switch. They don’t usually come with the option to wire manually the fan motor and the light separate. The other problem is with the new fans you have different motor speeds and different light functions and intensities and will not be able to adjust those with just a wall switch.
There has to be a way to connect that extra wire so that you have a swith for just the fan and a switch for the just the light..because if the remote gets lost or broken..every time you turn the switch its gonna turn both on if the fan was on before you lost the remote it will stay on..its more convenient to have control at the switches for each the light and fan separately.
There is.You have the black white and blue wire on the fan that can just be directly wired to your home. Black to black, white to white and blue(light) to red. If you have two switches you will have the black and red hot wires in the ceiling. But this means no remote is wired in then. Most of the new fans have the remote because the remote receiver will be doing the adjustment of speeds and light intensity. Where as before you had the pull strings to adjust speed and light configuration. They eliminated the pull strings and basically require you to use the remote. But they do still sell older style fans with pull strings if that’s what you prefer.
@@FortKnoxCoI loved your video. We have two switches on the wall that control the fan and light IF we use pull chains fans. This time we bought one with a remote control. This fan had the remote housing already incorporated into it, so there was only the black and white wires coming out from the fan. There’s not a blue one. I have red, white, black, ground coming out from the ceiling. I tried wiring the red from ceiling to black from fan and the second wall switch didn’t work. Is this not an option when using remote control fans?
@@gustavobedoy5514 the red and black in the ceiling are the powers from the two switches in the wall. So from one switch there’s a black that goes up to the ceiling and the other switch has red going up. They both are considered “hot” wires and hot is usually Black. But since there’s two “hot” wires in the same location they use a red just to identify them separately.
But you should be able to use one of the hot wires in the ceiling and just cap the other one since your not using it. You should only need one power source going to the fan. Then the fan should have some type of ability to control the power to the fan or light depending on what your doing with the remote.
If you wire it correctly and you try both switches and neither of them work then I’d check to make sure the fan itself and the remote don’t have a code that needs to be set or paired together. Because that would be my next guess is that the remote isn’t talking to the fan.
Is the rod mandatory in that model fan?? Is it flush mount capable? I just purchased the Hampton Bay Tyra ceiling fan. The connection does not turn on the fan or light with remote. I have 3 green, 1 copper, black, white, plus those blue, white and black out of that mini box. Plus a yellow antenna wire. All controlled by a single switch. Below that single switch is another single switch that controls one outlet in room. Mine are not side by side.
Most of these fans I’ve seen lately use at least a small 4-6” down rod with the ball to pivot on. If you’re looking for an actual flush mount fan you might need to search for that specifically in the fans description.
If you have a black/white/copper In the ceiling and connect according to the video or directions on the fan you should be able to flip the switch on the wall to supply the power
(Leaving it on always) and then using the remote to control the on/off functions of the fan and light.
Wired mine exazt same way. Harbor flanigan ii. It turned on for millisecond and shut off. Flanigan ii with remote. Power at connections power at light connector. Returning it and try again.
Yeah, that’s weird. If it’s wired correctly, everything should work black to black white to white ground to ground. It’s pretty much a simple as that. So if it’s not working and you’ve made sure everything is connected properly, I would do the same. There’s been a few people on here in the comments that said they bought some different brands and had the same exact thing happen but after getting a new fan, it worked the way it should. Definitely sounds like it might be a manufacturer defect.
Thank you for this - very helpful! The unit I recently bought is not a standard brand. There are 3 wires to connect the receiver to the fan - red, gray, and pink. The connections from the fan motor are red, gray, and orange - so I would presume the pink wire from the receiver connects to the orange wire on the motor. My question is the 2 wires that connect to the house. My receiver has one black wire ("AC IN N") and one red wire ("AC IN L"), but no white wire, so I am confused as to which connects to the white house wire and the black (or red) house wire. Any ideas?
Wow you do have a unique set up there. The 3 wires red grey pink I would assume it goes red to red , grey to grey and pink to “orange” which I’m guessing is a bad looking pink. So I think you have that right there.
As far as the black and red wire in the ceiling there’s a couple things to check. Is there one switch that controls power to the ceiling box? If so I would guess that the black is a Hot wire and the red is not? Maybe they ran black up from the wall switch and have the red returning on the switch? You can check the wall switch, pull it out and visually see what colors do they have attached to the terminals on the switch. That could help tell you what’s what.
If there is two wall switches running power up to the ceiling and the black and red both independently work of a switch acting as a hot wire then I would not know what is going on with no wire for those switches to be able to return the power back to the switch completing the circuit. So if that was the case there should be at least one white or neutral wire somewhere for those two circuits. Again checking the wall switch visually can help you see what colors you should be seeing in the ceiling.
amazing that you take the time to respond to these! the ceiling has the 4 standard black/red/white/copper wires. At least one is wired to a wall switch. Not sure about the second switch - maybe capped off red. The black and white from the ceiling need to connect to the black and red wires on the receiver, but I don't know which is which and the instructions don't help other than the "AC IN N" and "AC IN L" tags on the wires! Thanks again!@@FortKnoxCo
ahhh google is my friend. AC IN N = neutral (white) AC IN L = live (black) Thanks again!
@@GK-ff1bu awesome!! Happy you figured it out. Good job!
@@GK-ff1bu well i really appreciate you watching and commenting. I figured if you take the time to watch and ask a question the least I can do is try and help out. Knowledge is power and I learned from asking questions and getting help from those who took the time. So I will pay it forward. Thanks again
Please help putting a new fan up in my game room and it comes with a remote I'm doing everything pretty good but I'm at a spot where I'm not sure what to do next from the box that controls the remote the white and black wire I'm not sure where to connect those two cuz coming out of the ceiling is a red wire and an a brownish yellowish old looking color and then a black wire is coming that's out too that's capped off and I know the green wire is just the ground so I'm not worried about that I'm just worried about where to put the white in the black wire from the receiver to the ceiling
Do you have two switches on the wall? The red may be the hot to one switch and the black capped to the other?
And the brown/yellow sounds like it may be the white/neutral. The green usually does designate ground.
I have a similar ceiling fan. Tried installing today but it didn’t turn on. I noticed it don’t have a ground wire coming out of the ceiling … could this be why it’s not working? I mean I have the 2 green wires connected to each other but no ground wire coming from the ceiling connected to them.
I also have just a single wall switch. For now I have removed the remote receiver… and wired this for the light only.
If you have the single wall switch and it’s only hooked up for the light then there’s no power/switch going to the fan itself to power the motor? You need a wall switch/power source to be on and wired into the black and white wires of the fan itself to supply any power to the fan. If these wires aren’t being powered by a switch then you most likely don’t have any power to the fan.
You should have a black and white wire for the fan. The green is a ground wire and if you don’t have a bare copper wire in the ceiling then that is okay. But usually the green goes to the bare ground wire. And black to black and white to white.
Your wall switch , if you pull it out from the wall and look are the wires connected to it, should have wire wires bound together inside the wall box, black wire on both terminals to the switch.
great explanation thank you
Thank you 🤙🏼
My old fan used the red wire, so I hooked it up like the instructions said and nothing, so I was looking up in there and found a 3 black wires that were tied together, figured I’d give that a shot still nothing, fan or light doesn’t work…wondering if I have a faulty receiver🤷🏻♂️
Do you have a wire tester on hand? You can test the red wire (make sure the wall switch is turned on). And test the black wires to se where electricity is coming in from. That bundle of black wires probably has a main power in and that’s feeding the other black wires going to another location. So you should have power in one or all of those. But make sure there’s a switch or breaker that’s not off
@@FortKnoxCo I’ll test them tomorrow, what makes me think that it could possibly be a bad receiver is I previously tried installing it in the kitchen where I had just a light on a two way switch…it didn’t work there either, but I thought that may have been to do with the two way switch…and unfortunately the wire box wasn’t strong enough to support the weight of the fan anyways, so I just figured good time to replace that old fan over the dining room table…lol this junction box was properly supported and this new fan is about half the weight of that old 80’s fan…so I thought cool, no harm no foul…until once again it wouldn’t kick on🤔 I was almost wondering if I could just bypass that receiver all together, but then I couldn’t adjust the fan speeds or even turn the fan on because the receiver is basically replacing the pull strings on the old school fans…I’m assuming 🤷🏻♂️ thanks for the reply…I’ll get a voltage meter on those wires and make sure it’s getting power. I capped those bundle of black back like they were and hooked up the red hot wire again because that’s what the old fan was using…still nothing…sorry for the novel here, it’s just frustrating 😂
@@Not_a_channel2 no problem at all. I get what your saying. Yeah it sounds like it could be the receiver. But the only way to start eliminating stuff is to make sure your power is working on the wires properly. Then I’d say the remote receiver is possibly bad. And yes the new fans pretty much require a remote or else. It’s a cool thing except when you want to start making customized wiring plans.
@@FortKnoxCo awesome, that’s my plan for tomorrow then. The house was built in 68, so no telling what shape that wiring is in tbh…lol once again, appreciate the quick response…a lot of you tubers don’t tend to reply so you definitely have a new subscriber in me!
@@Not_a_channel2 well I really appreciate that. I noticed that too. But I really do like trying to help and trouble shoot stuff with people. Not just making the videos but trying to help educate unique situations with others. I hope to one day have a larger platform on here and still have the opportunity to help when people ask. I learn stuff too sometimes from others. I know what it’s like to be able to do some of these things yourself and it unlocks a confidence and independence that’s invaluable.
The wires coming from my ceiling are black, red, white and ground. How do you recommend connecting them to function with the remote?
The instruction manual only shows 2 wires coming from ceiling. Do I cap one of my ceiling wires?
Yep exactly right. The black and red go to the two switches on your wall. So pick one that you want to use and cap the other. The black and red are technically both considered “hot” wires or Black on a diagram. But you only need one.
I have a video on how to run electrical through your ceiling and in that video I do a break down of this whole thing too.
If I only have three wire in the ceiling copper, white and black then I connect the a receiver that has a black wire coming out the bottom. What’s that one supposed to connect to?
Black/white/copper in ceiling is perfect.
You connect black to black, white to white, copper to green on the remote receiver. The fan should have black/white/blue (usually) black is hot for the fan motor, blue is hot for the light function and white is the neutral for both.
just installed a hamilton bay fan and remote works great but when i want to turn the lights using the wall switch it has a 5 second delay and the lights turn on how can i fix this delay i want them to turn on when i turn on the switch
If the light is working, that means that it’s most likely wired correctly. If it’s wired in through the switch and this is a newer fan, it may just be a delay in the fan. I don’t know if there’s a way to speed it up. I know that there is sometimes a delay in the response with these newer fans because there’s some type of computing chip or receiver up there that is processing. So it may just be the way it is. I’ve never heard of a way to speed it up. Five seconds does seem a little bit long. I know it’s usually a one to three second delay sometimes when you hit the button.
I installed a Hinkley 60” ceiling fan, it spins for 30 seconds and then abruptly stops. What do you think might cause this?
Does it have a remote? Make sure the functions on the fan are working with the remote. If there is a physical switch on the fan itself make sure it’s switch all the way over to one side, usually it’s to switch the direction of the fan. And if you still have problems after making sure the wires are connected correctly it could be a bad fan or remote.
Did you use the single black wire that was not in use in the ceiling?
I used the wire that went to the switch I wanted. When there is two switches you can choose either red or black and that will go to one of the switches or the other.
I looked in the wall to see on the switch itself which wire came off of which switch.
I saw the black wire coming off of the switch o. The right side of the wall that I wanted so I chose to use the black wire
But either can work, just pick one.
Nice video thanks
Your very welcome
Which video title is on the extra hot wire for recessed lighting?
I put it in the description, towards the bottom.
How to Run / Fish Wires Easily Through Ceiling for Power to Recessed Lights and Fans
I’m installing on a pitch ceiling and now my receiver won’t fit, the housing is so small. Can I buy a bigger housing by itself?
It would depend on the brand of fan. Usually the housing design fits the style of the fan. But generally how the housing secured to the fan support that screws into the ceiling is the same. At the end of the day the housing secured by two screws on the side. So it could be possible to get a bigger style of housing. Might just have to be a little creative
I am replacing an old ceiling fan/light because the fan quit working with a new one with remote like the one in video. Theres no ground wire coming from the ceiling, probably because my house is old. Does this mean its already grounded, if so what do I do with ground wire from fan/light or how to test if its grounded?
Not having the ground wire is fine. Some new fans don’t even come with the ground wire. The ground bear copper wire is technically a secondary safety measure. It acts similar to the white wire. So that if something were to happen for the white wire, you would have the ground as a last case scenario for the electric electricity to find its way out.
But you will be fine. Make sure you do black to black and white to white and just tuck the ground from the fan away. I would either snip the ground or put a cap on it just to make sure it doesn’t touch anything inside the fan housing.
No. If you have a black and a red up at the fan then you have two power sources up there. That should mean you have a switch that controls the fan and a switch that control the light.
Do not tie both of them together up at the fan. That could cause a short circuit.
Use just one of the wires. Black or red. With new fans, you sometimes just need one power source to power the whole unit. You do not need a separate power source for the fan and the light. So use just one wire like the black and make sure that it’s connected to the black on the fan. And then white to white. That completes the circuit for the fan. If you have the red wire up in the ceiling, still put a cap on it and leave it. Then on your wall switch the one that has a black wire to it will be the switch that controls the power to the fan. You will most likely have a wall switch that has a red wire going to it. That will no longer control anything.
I have another video on my channel that is a little bit older than this one that explains the wiring diagram that I think you’re asking about.
I have a video explaining how to wire in a ceiling fan and also how to run electrical for recessed lights. In the recessed lights video, I use that extra power source, the red wire, and the switch that goes to it to power some recessed lights since I had that extra power available up there. So at the end of the day I had one switch that controlled the fan and the other switch now controlled the recessed lights.
Hi, where us the video? Didn't find it. I am trying to install recessed lights and a fan that has no lights but wanted to have the universal remote control them separately. When I press on, it turns the lights and the fan on with the remote.
You mentioned in the video about hot wiring the receiver for recessed lighting additions
@@firehawk95666 How to Run / Fish Wires Easily Through Ceiling for Power to Recessed Lights and Fans
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Thanks got it, unfortunately I don't have that extra hot wire up there. Maybe I can connect them with the lights from the fan?
@@firehawk95666 you could possibly wire it in to turn on with the light of the fan, the only problem I see with that is the fan is powered, and then the functions are controlled through the remote or some type of circuitry. I believe the gauge of wire on the output of that circuitry to power. The light and fan functions is pretty small. So if you were to branch power off of the lightfunction it most likely would not be enough to power other lights throughout the ceiling.
@@FortKnoxCo the fan doesn't come with light, it has the wires to connect a light if desired. I also have a universal ceiling fan remote im using
Can you separate the light from the fan and control each independently. One switch for the fan and one switch for the light?
If you wire the fan without the remote. Then you can wire in the blue to one of your switch powers in the black to the fan motor. The only problem with the newer fans is they sometimes require the remote to be able to adjust the speed. so you may just have on and off but no fan speeds.
When your wiring in the single power and the remote receiver, you could turn on and off the fan or light function separately. So if you’re worried about being able to have one on one off, you can do that through the remote.
If you need to have or want to be on its own physical switch, you might have to buy a specific fan, one of the styles or just the description, because they still make fans that aren’t made to have remotes
thank you for the fast reply
@@techskillz617 no problem at all. I hope you get it all figured out
@@FortKnoxCo before bed i tell my Ai device good night it turns of the tv and lights based off a smart switch. if i f have both fan and light into that switch it will turn off both.
i was thinking of just connecting the fan to the remote and taking the light wires and putting them on the other switch.
do you have any recommendation on where to buy fans? are hoeme depot, lowes, and amazon the best options?
I have this same fan. It’s been a year and now the switch is controlling the light on the fan. It never did that before.
So the remote is not controlling the light anymore? I know if the light is left on and you turn on and off the wall switch it will come on once the fan is powered
what if im installing a fan without a switch? and i just want power to the fan to use the remote control?
You can do that. The fan just needs power. You could have it wired up just like a wall outlet, constant power. And then you control the fan just by the remote as you want.
I just wired 3 fans in this casita i built and the power in the ceiling is wired just like a wall outlet. No wall switches for the fans. Just all ran by remote. And when I need to install the fan or work on it I can just turn the breaker off and do your work.
Thank you I installed it just like you did. But I noticed you have a wire tucked into the box. I had black to black white to white and I couldn’t get it to work. Now I connected white to white black to red and now it works and my switch on the wall turns it off and on. However, when I turn it completely off the light and fan it will come back on after 10 to 15 seconds.? Why? Anyone? Thank you in advance.
Yeah. The red wire and black wire are both hot wires. Depending on how your switches are wired you may need to use the red or black. Either are good. As far as the fan turning back on after Turing it off I’ve never heard of that. Makes me think something’s wrong with the remote/receiver. But if you turn off the switch on the wall does it do that still? If the switch is off you shouldn’t have any power going to the fan.
I have a problem with my fan and it Honeywell brand but every time I try to connect the black wire with the remote ceiling fan wire the light won’t turn on
Hmm. Is there a blue wire? Usually the blue wire on the fan is to the light. If your wiring in a remote receiver the receiver should have black and white on one side which connects to the house wires. And the other side of the remote receiver will have black,blue & white. Black usually is for the fan motor, blue is usually the light feature, & white is the common neutral for both.
Does this fan have a dimming function and how well does it work
Yes. And it works very well.
@@FortKnoxCo one more question. Do most ceiling fans with leds that don’t have this dimming function on the remote. Could you add a dimmer switch to the outlet or is it only compatible if the ceiling fan has this setting already in the brain
@@skylerbauer858 usually it’s only usable through the fan itself. The remote and the receiver that’s wired into the fan control all of that. So adding a dimmer to the original power source that powers the fan would not be recommended. Almost all LeD newer fans that I’ve ever seen have a dimming feature. And now you can get them with adjustable light tones. From 2500k color light all the way up to 5000k colored light.
@@FortKnoxCo super helpful thanks 🤙🏼
@@skylerbauer858 no problem at all
I am trying to install my hunter ceiling fan using separate switches for fan and the light it has a remote control with built in transmitter. Can you help me with some tips. I am a handy man but this job has puzzled me quite good.
Do you have to use both switches? Because usually the fans now a days that come with the remotes are made to have that installed to be able to control the light and fan properly.
Mainly that you want to have speed adjustment and light intensity adjustable, and that is done through the remote receiver. If you run power from one switch (black wire) to the fan -black wire & power from the other switch (red wire) to the light-blue wire, you will be able to control the power to each but won’t be able to control the speeds or intensity. It may not function properly.
If you want both features to be controlled by two switched then you may need to install a fan specifically designed with manual controls like the pull strings, they don’t come with a remote and are made to be wired without one
The wiring digram shows the blue wire for light control to be caped if I wanted to be controlled with one switch! In case of use 3-14 the second hot wire to be connected to light wire. Now the two switch are acting like two way switch one turns the fan and light on the other one turns them off.
@@papoony1 are your two switches next to each other? Or are they on different walls? Because that sounds like it’s wired as a 3-way circuit then
Where can I find replacement remotes?
Amazon. I should have a couple links in my fan videos for remote/receiver combos.
What if you want to control fan and light on different switches on the wall? I installed mine and one switch controls light and fan but I want to use the extra switch to only control fan without controlling lights. Note I paired black from receiver to red ceiling. Would I have to pair black receiver to black ceiling (currently capped off) and then merge blue (light) receiver cables with the red ceiling?
Yeah, you have the right idea. The black wire goes to one switch in the wall and the red wire goes to one switch in the wall. The receiver in the fan though only has black / white. Because of the way the new fans are made. They sometimes require that remote receiver to control the light and fan properly. The idea of connecting the red or black to the blue, which is usually the power to the light would work, but it may not function the way you want because the fan is set to be controlled with the remote.
What I mean is the fan on and off and the speed as well as the light on and off and intensity up or down may not work properly unless the remote is wired in.
Usually with the remotes depending on which brand you can turn the fan on or the light on. I’m able to do that with our fans. Obviously we can have both light and fan on. But the remote should allow you to control separately.
@@FortKnoxCo Fast response I appreciate you brother. I been fighting with my fan for a day. I installed others before but this one gave me a fight 😆
@@Castro2408 no problem at all. I appreciate you commenting. I hope I was some help.
I have 1 switch but red and black, before i was able to turn switch off and still run the fan. Should i just tie the red off and just use remote....
If you have a single switch with one red wire and one black wire you’ll use those. The red wire is the power coming back from the fan to the switch.
The power “hot” wire from the house is usually black. That gives power to the fan. The black wire running to the fan will have the switch in line causing that break for on/off (the switch). Usually they will run the black and white to the fan and just keep the black for the whole run. But sometimes they will leave the black wire from the house, your source of power coming from the electrical panel, attached to one side of the switch and the other will have the black continuing to the fan. But in some cases they will run the red from the fan to the switch. So you know that wire is the run to the fan. The black is the run to the electrical panel. It’s probably more for identification purposes. Red and black are the common colors for hot wires.
@FortKnoxCo so tie red/black from house to the black from fan?
Previously blue/fan was to black/house and black/fan was to red/house...
@FortKnoxCo theres no pull switches now its only remote.
@@travelteam89 correct. The way they used to wire houses and sometimes still do is with two wall switches which control two power sources up in the ceiling. That’s because fans used to be only pole switches and you needed a power source for the light and the fan. Now that everything is controlled by a remote you only need one wall switch, and one power source to power the fan entirely. Then from the remote receiver up there, it splits the powerto the light and fan functions. One remote controls the power source and the smart fan is able to turn the light or the fan speed on the pan on which button you’re pushing. This usually results with having a wall switch that does not control anything. And one that now controls the fan by itself.
Does this fan have a reverse switch?
I cannot find a reverse switch on the fan.
Yes. It’s on the top of the fan. It’s a manual switch. Little black tab.
Is it okay to connect the blue wire for the fan and the receiver to red wire since I have a red and black wire coming from the ceiling so I can control the light from the switch and the remote?
If you connect the blue wire to a separate power source/switch in the wall you won’t be able to use the remote for the light, just the switch. And you most likely will just have and on & off function, no dimming or adjusting the light.
Thats assuming it works, because some newer fans are technical where they almost require the remote control receiver to run the functions of the fan properly.
You could try it and see if it works the light and if your satisfied with the function the your good. Otherwise I’d just suggest wiring it in as intended with one power source, either red or black wire depending on which wall switch you want to use. And then just use the remote to turn on the light or fan or both.
@@FortKnoxCo Thank you for responding! So it should be safe and not cause any electrical problems?
@@cfhmadman2011 should be yes. The fan is meant to handle the volt/amps usually in the house wiring. The only consideration would be if the remote receiver adjusts that power depending on what setting you have the fan or light to. So when you wire it directly it may be full fan speed or full light intensity. Just depends on how technical the fan is. They do still make fans that are meant to be wired in directly to two different power sources. They usually are significantly cheaper and have the pull strings to adjust the fan/light.
Is it ok to have all the wires in the fan housing and not the junction box? I ran out of room with the remote receiver.
Yes, you don’t have to have all the wires tucked into the junction box. Most the time they just do that to create more room within the fan housing for the wires coming from the fan. But that’s usually the problem is the receiver up there takes up a lot of that room. They just all need to be secured connections with those why are cops minimum
@@FortKnoxCo ok thanks! Your video was very helpful!
@@Brento311 your very welcome
Please help if you can- I just installed a regair ceiling fan from Amazon, it comes with a remote and light settings etc. Every time I turn the switch off and on or turn it off and back on with the remote the light setting changes. Is there a way for these ceiling fans to remember light settings or is this standard practice to have to go through on the remote and pick the light setting you like everytime you turn the light on/off. Please help, took a while to install and I’m hoping I don’t have to return it. Thank you
The fans I have installed and have shown in my video don’t have that problem, especially when just using the fan remote to turn on and off the functions. If you turn the switch on the wall on and off I could see that maybe that would possible reset the remote receiver in the fan each time and cause that problem. But if your saying that even when you leave the wall switch on, which is preferred, and you just turn the fan light on and off solely from the remote and it still reset to a different setting other than the last one you had it at… then I’d say it’s most likely the fan.
I’m not sure how much you spent on the fan or the brand you got but most popular/major brands that you’ll find in box stores won’t have this problem. You can still find Hunter/ Hampton bay/ etc. on Amazon sometimes if they have the better pricing.
@@FortKnoxCo Thank you for your quick reply! I’m going to return the Amazon ones and get them from Lowe’s instead. Thank you again!!
@@tycross1949 no problem at all. 🤙🏼🤙🏼
Did an install for the YUHAO 52” fan (setup almost identical to the Hampton you did), light or fan does not work. I see in the instructions where it says “make sure frequency switches are set correctly”. My receiver or remote does not have switches. I tried to hold 1, 2 on the remote for 10 seconds like it says to listen for a beep. Still nothing works using the remote. What else can I do?
Wondering if you had a solution.
If it doesn’t have manual pin switches to set a frequency code I’m not sure what else you can do other than run through the instructions of how to set or reset. Trying to reset both to factory ?
Assuming you have all the wires connected correctly and you have the power on the wall switch on… making sure the fan has power. Most commonly I’ve seen incorrect wiring or the switch wasn’t turned on. Or hooked up to the wrong Hot wire in the ceiling and the fan being controlled by the wrong wall switch. Usually it’s a power source problem to the fan and its receiver box.
Sounds good, thank you for the feedback. I’ll double check the wires to the ceiling to make sure I’m using the correct hot wire. I tried to triple check everything before so I don’t have to go back and redo everything. Maybe I missed something, it is my first time installing a fan.
@@dharris196285 no problem at all. I know it can be frustrating to go through all the work installing and finding out the fan itself is defective. Hopefully it ends up being a simple fix
Have a feeling it might be the fan lol. Had my dad help me out and he used to do wiring in buildings and houses for phone lines. He checked over everything I did and said it looked good. Just to find out it doesn’t work when I try it 😂😂
@@dharris196285 that’s frustrating. Hopefully their customer service is good and they swap out the fan for you
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Was this a solution so you can control fan and light from two wall switches also? Or it’s only via remote
This was not a solution as much as it was a video about how to Install and wire a fan. Most new fans all come with a remote and usually require you to have and use the remote to control all of its functions. Because of this you can now control everything with one wall switch/power source and from the remote.
I was really looking for a solution to have fan and have turn on light and fan from two different wall switches… I just don’t like remotes..
@@bouncetrader I agree. That can be annoying to HAVE to use the remote. You can still find fans that require the two power sources and two wall switches. But they are all manual. Pull strings and everything. Usually less expensive too
My house is 64 years old and so janky I am going to get an electrician to do this even though you explained this so well…..i can see that what will find in the ceiling will be a cluster and I will burn my place down. Very good video. Thanks
Thank you, and you’re welcome. Yeah the older homes can be tricky because if I had to put money on it you’re going to find some different color wires up in the ceiling. They used different color codes back in the day. Still the same idea when it comes to hot wire, neutral wire and grounds. But they key is finding what color code your working off of.
Hi. I was wondering if you could help me with a problem? I'm trying to install a new ceiling fan in my bedroom. But first I have to remove the old one. I have a junction box with machine screws pointing down from the attic. I don't understand why the screws are not in the upward position so that I can remove them and the old ceiling bracket from my bedroom. Do you know why these screws are upside down? It seems that I will have to go into the attic to remove the screws and then install them upward into the new ceiling bracket from my bedroom. The ceiling bracket is being held to the junction box using only the nuts/washer on the machine screws. Have you ever seen this before? Is this safe? Thanks for your help!
I think I understand what you are saying, but it would be easier if I had some type of picture to go off of. If the junction box in the ceiling has threads coming down as if it’s tightened from inside the attic that could be the screws that are holding that junction box to the wood rafter. Sometimes there is a metal horseshoe clamp that goes over the top of the wood, and the junction box is actually secured, when the house is being built that way. Also, sometimes with metal junction boxes they have those threads coming through as an option to have different things tightened down, but may not be an actual use. But either way, if it’s only accessible from inside the attic, it usually has something to do with the installation of the box itself, and not as much to do with, the fan that’s installed on the outside facing the room.
If you’re able to remove your fan, then that would be the first step and whatever bracket is currently holding it obviously take that off.
When your left with the junction box and no fan on it, is there any place for you to secure the new fans bracket ? Usually there’s a couple threaded holes to choose from.
@@FortKnoxCo Thanks for replying, Brian! I have removed the entire fan except for the ceiling bracket. There are 3 extra holes on the junction box but they don't line up on opposite sides to secure the bracket.
@@markb1822 hmmm that’s very odd. Haven’t seen a junction box like that. Is metal correct? Would it be possible to drill a hole that could accept a screw? So you have lined up holes for a bracket? Just trying to brain storm ideas to make it work before you go into the attic or worst case you have to swap out the box itself
@@FortKnoxCo This box is metal. Going in order from top to bottom: First, there's the box with the two screws. Then the bracket underneath the box with the screws inserted. Then the washers/nuts underneath the bracket. I was just wondering if the two nuts on the screws were enough to keep the bracket secured to the box? The previous electrician must have thought so. But I've never seen a set-up like this before.
I do not have a blue wire in my fan. What do I do with my blue wire on a receiver?
If you don’t have a blue wire on your fan then does it not have a light? The blue wire is just a power to the light. If you only have a black and a white then connect those two and cap the blue one. The fan should turn on power to the motor and speed control. But the blue goes to the light and controls the on/off of the light and intensity of the light from that receiver box.
@@FortKnoxCo Thank you! I have been looking for an answer for about an hour. I will just cap it! You are awesome!
@@corysherwood8793 thank you, your very welcome
I have the same exact fan how do I turn the light on without the fan spinning
I can't get the fan to stop
Did you install the remote? You should be able to turn the light on and off with the remote. And the fan on and off. They both work independently on the remote if you push the fan button or light button. The power on and off button turns the whole thing on and off as well.
@@FortKnoxCo I press the remote till all the green dots disappear and it still keeps spinning. I just want the light on without the fan
@@SeymourKitty that’s weird. Usually on the fan button if all of the lights are off that means that the fan is off. Obviously, it Hass to stop spinning and slow down on its own. But assuming that you have everything wired correctly the only other thing I could think of is that the receiver is not working correctly up in the fan. So it might be a defective, remote and receiver combination. but if you can turn the fan and light on and off all together, that means that it’s obviously communicating to the receiver but maybe the fan function is not working properly. You should be able to turn the fan on and off independently from the light.
I had hopes I'd be able to turn the light on at the switch still, but I guess not.
It can be done but I believe even if you wired the blue wire on the fan to a separate wall switch like the red wire and had the fan on the switch from the black wire… you may get it to turn on and off but you wouldn’t be able to choose any light features like how bright it is or what shade/tone it is. Most fans these days are built to have a remote receiver installed to control all the functions and speeds.
I have a black AND red wire coming out of my ceiling…what do I do now? Nothing seems to work. 😫
Do you have a white wire as well?
@@FortKnoxCo yes everything else is as described in your (awesomely well-done) video
@@opramolla okay. So the red and black are both “hot” wires. So you can choose one and cap the other. Black to black on your fan/receiver. Or Red to Black on your receiver.
The red goes to one wall switch and the black goes to the other. So which ever you choose one of your wall switches will be capped/not in use in the ceiling.
White to white, bare copper to your ground/green.
That should be your wiring. Then you turn the wall switch on and leave it on and the remote control will control fan on/off & light on/off. Both or separate.
The receiver in the ceiling to the fan will be black to black, blue to blue, white to white.
@@FortKnoxCo first: I greatly appreciate you replying!!
I tried that though and it still doesn’t work. The fan itself is wired directly into the light that is in my attic, which DOES work, so maybe I have to get the electricians out here to see what’s going on? Makes no sense to me
@@opramolla if it’s power is coming off a power source above it or like you said a light before it, I’d make sure it’s getting power to your junction box in the ceiling. If you have a voltmeter you can check. Turn the switch on or however the ceiling fan is supposed to be turned on or off. And then check those red & black to see if they are getting any juice. Maybe there’s a bad connection or the way it wired off the other power course
My receiver has a white n red wire do I tie my red from receiver to red in ceiling but when I do that my light want fully come on without turning off and on the switch
If you tie the red on the fan to the red in the ceiling then it sound like your directly wiring the fan/light to the power source, so that would cause the power to the light to be controlled only by the switch. If your wiring in a remote there usually is a black and white on one side of the receiver and then a black, white & blue. The black and white go to the black and white or red and white in your ceiling. The black/white/blue go to the fan itself respectively.
@@FortKnoxCo thanks for the reply, so I ended up having to connect the black wire from the ceiling to the red wire on the receiver and cap the red wire from the ceiling leaving me to use the second switch instead of the first one which is a dimmer eliminating that option completely
@@Greenstock31 that’s awesome you got it figured out. I’m happy to hear this.
I have an extra red cable coming out of the remote transformer 😩
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Thanks for your video! Trying to wire a ceiling fan with remote wired to a wall switch. The wall switch just turns the power off and on and the remote allows me to work both the light and fan by the remote. From ceiling: black, white, blue, ground and remote black and white one side, black, white and blue on the other. So far have only been able to get the fan to work. How do I wire it to make the light work? Have spent an entire day trying to figure it out. I’m a 69 yo female senior trying to do it myself. Any help would be greatly appreciated as I’m ready to rip my hair out and slam my head into the wall. Extremely frustrating! Thank you to anyone who can help!!
Up in the ceiling in the house, you should have a black and white and copper ground wire. Those black and white wires should go to the black and white side of the remote that goes in the fan base. On the other side of the remote that goes in the fan base should be the black white and blue wire. That goes to the black and white and blue wires on the fan itself. The blue wire specifically is the power to the light and that’s why it goes to the fan. The power from the house, which is just the black and white by itself supplies power to the whole system. Outside the other end of the remote Receiver Goes the power to the fan or the light. I hope that makes sense.
The fan itself should be the only thing that also has a blue wire. The fan has black, white and blue. The remote has a black white and blue. Those all go together. On the other side, there should be just a black and white, which goes to just the black and white in the ceiling of your house. That black and white wire in the ceiling of your house goes down to the switch that turns on and off the power.
Thank you so much for this info! I really appreciate it. I will need to reread and process it a few times.🤣. I’m a visual learner, so will need to draw it out.😉😁 Thanks again!
@@LNollac your very welcome. I hope it all goes well.
I also have a blue wire coming out of the ceiling. Where does that one go? I have 3 switches at the wall. One goes to overhead ceiling LED’s. One switch turned the fan off and on. The third does NOT operate a receptacle, so there may be one switch for fan light and the other for fan. Not too smart of me not to take pics before pulling the wires apart. Thanks again for any assistance. I tried to find wiring diagrams but wasn’t able to find one matching my situation.
How do I fix my fan if it is stuck on one speed?
Does it have a remote installed? If your using a remote and the speeds won’t adjust then it sounds like your remote receiver that’s wired into the base of the fan is bad. You might need to change that out for a new one
@@FortKnoxCo Yes, it does have a remote for the fan. I just installed the fan yesterday afternoon. I guess it is possible that the receiver is bad. Any other possibilities?
@@tylerreese9064 depending on the model of the fan, I’m assuming it’s a newer model and it came with the remote? The speeds are usually controlled by the remote receiver. Older models used to have that pull chain that you’d pull down to turn on and adjust speeds on the motor. Now they don’t have that and rely on the remote receiver to adjust that
@@tylerreese9064 if it’s wired in correctly I’m not sure what else would cause the fan to be stuck on one speed. The receiver only needs power to operate. Everything else is internal from that point forward
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I can not find a single video to a ceiling fan with a remote, and two active switches
If the remote is installed it will only accept one power source to power the remote receiver. And this usually means the fan is wired to accept a remote and not be wired up with two power sourced/switches. Because if you don’t have a remote to control fan speeds or light brightness you have no manual way to adjust these features. You would need to buy a non remote fan with manual pull strings. No remote at all though. I think you may need to choose between a fan with remote and one switch to power or full manual fan.
@@FortKnoxCo I was installing 2 fans for someone and the fans don’t have pull cords only a remote..but since it’s a new build the house is predestined with 2 switches, so was looking for a solution to have a remote and 2 switches…but they had to opt out and have a dead switch on the wall…this is a super flaw with modern fans
@@Itsjustdom_ most builders run those two switches, black wire, and red wire up into the ceiling as a convenience. It’s nice to have that extra power source up in the ceiling in case you need it for something. It’s common practice now, but used to be an upgrade for builders to do that, but having that switch and capped off power in the ceiling is not a bad thing. It’s just an extra for now. What I’ve done in the past. If there isn’t recessed lighting in the ceiling of that room is use that power to run out to the recessed lights that I install and I can have recessed lights that turn on from that switch, and the other one obviously controls the power to the fan. I have a video further back in my library of me doing just this. I had a dead switch that wasn’t being used for anything, and I ran that power over to a series of lights. It made it very easy to add recessed lights to the room.
@@FortKnoxCo it would be convenient if the room didn’t already have recessed lighting so the expanding is limited with that..if they don’t want a dead switch now drywall repair has to be done..they should have just made it with 1 switch with the 14/3 instead of 2 switches, that would have been smarter
@@Itsjustdom_ yeah. That could have been planned ahead with the builder i guess . Run the wire so it’s there but done install the extra stuff until you need it.
what if you don't want to use the remote and you only want to use the switches on the wall? I sthat possible?
As long as your fan has a black and a blue wire you should be able to wire that to your house wire Black to black and red to blue. Obviously white to white. The black wire will control the fan motor and the blue wire will control the light.
The only thing is that the fan speeds and the light intensity will not be able to be adjusted since those are controlled through the remote and receiver in the fan. Because normally you would have pull strings on the fan to control those functions.
Your best bet if you don’t want a remote controlled fan is to buy one that is not meant to have a remote, they come with the pull strings to function the fan and light and are specifically made to wire in the traditional way and be manually controlled. They are also usually lower priced as well since your not buying it for the remote function.
So this just leaves a non functioning switch
Not sure what you mean but this is showing how to install and wire a fan that has a remote. The fan works perfectly after installation and you have the remote to control the speeds and brightness of the light.
@@FortKnoxCo just installed this fan, but now my switch doesn’t work. Should the fan only work via the remote now? Or should the wall switch and the remote control the fan?
@@jai7985 if you wired in the receiver I’ll in the fan base correctly then you should be able to turn the wall switch on or in it’s on position. Then you use the remote to turn on the fan light or speeds. The switch provides the power. The remote controls the fan from that point on.
Same issue. I had two switches. One for the light and one for the fan. So now I just have one working switch that controls the light and the fan. The other switch on the wall that used to control the fan is just dead now? How can I fix this?
@@jessicadekeyser3604 you now have freed up one power source up in the ceiling. A lot of houses have two switches on the wall that can control light and fan. But most fans no a days have an all in one feature where it’s controlled by the fan/remote and it only need one power source. So this leaves an extra switch on the wall not being used. That is what it is. It’s just extra for future needs possibly. For example, one of my earlier videos about “how to run electrical through the ceiling” I use an extra switch in our gym and run that power to some can lights to add more recessed lighting in the room. So the fan was on one switch and the other switch just went to a wire up in the fan junction box that was capped and not in use. I took that unused wire and jumped it over to some recessed lights and since it was already up in the ceiling and controlled by a switch on the wall it made this process super convenient. The hard work was already done since the electrical was up in the ceiling and it was connected to its own switch. I decided to put it to use and add more lighting separate from the fan.
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I have the same exact fan. I turned the fan off with the remote and can’t seem to get fan turned back on with the same remote, any help?
Depending on how old the batteries are you may need to change the batteries in the remote. I notice when it works intermittently it’s because the batteries are getting weak.
If that’s not the issue you may have a bad wire connection. If it works sometimes but not others it could be the connecting wires or a bad remote/reciever.