Installing Ceiling Fan Bracket Without Changing Out The Existing Electrical Box
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- You can buy this bracket on amazon, and if you're in the southern California You can pick these products up at John's wholesale Electric,
15118 Downey Ave.
Paramount, CA 90523
phone: 562-634-0861
fax: 562-633-2643
Installing ceiling fan bracket without changing out the existing electrical box. In addition to this bracket we have two more for if the box is installed between joists, and those too can be installed without changing out the box. Unfortunately there is a delay in getting these brackets finished in time so it looks like we will be getting them the first or second week of September. we will have our website up before then and that is where we'll be selling them until we can get them into Home Depot and Lowe's. Thank you for your patience.
Looks great, and with a brighter bulb installed that’s all the light you need. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxWF88GpljEn-0o34vtLFazEQ5h5Q33SjU As far as ease of installation- this was my first ceiling fan and it took about 3 hours because I had no idea what I was doing and also it’s helpful to have a second set of hands and a magnetic drill bit. Works great.
I need one! My ceiling fan is on a box and I’m needing to replace it! Thank you for the video! No need to apologize for stumbling over your words, we were educated. You’ll get the hang of talking points on videos and editing in no time! 👌🏼🧨‼️
Thank you for your kind words. our website should be up soon. FixtureSupportSystems.net. There you will be able to see our other products including our other brackets
Well, good luck with your idea. Sounds like you will sell some. We would have bought it today had yor site been up.
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Damn they used to be 11 each now they 20
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We were having problems with postage issues so we just made it a flat rate to cover postage and handling. hopefully we will be able to get this into stores real soon so the price will be back to $11.
I have watched several videos and this is by far the best one for a 60 year old DIYer.
The EZ-Brace 101 is an awesome product. One of my ceiling fans fell since it was originally hung from a plastic light box. I don't have access to the lightbox from above to swap it out, so had to find a solution within the light box. Thankfully I came across this video and ordered an EZ-Brace 101 from Fixture Support Systems. It came in the mail a few days later and I installed it the next day. Super-easy to install. These definitely hold at least 150 pounds. My fan won't be coming down again. Great product!
Yes I got mine on Amazon and my husband was so excited about how easy it was.
Sir you make a great video! Please don't ever doubt yourself. Thank you for being so awesome!
Thank you for the kind words. We're just being able to launch this and some other brackets and hopefully we just got the person that's going to help us get through the technical part of all of this.
This worked perfectly for me highly recommended 👍
Awesome video, finally someone who can truly convey what needs to be done. Thank you!
My husband purchased this product after watching the video it works just as he said. I 100% recommend it is perfect.
Not listed so as an electrician I can't install them, but despite being very skeptical when I first clicked on here, after looking into the product I think this is legit. As long as it's a nail on box and you know where to angle the product to sink into the wood, the screws are the right guage to support the motion and weight of standard fans. I hope to see this expanded upon in the future!
Right, I dont think itll ever be listed since NEC says you can't modify boxes, but its still pretty cool
Also screwing blind is scary. You might hit more than wood. For example engineered trusses are thinner.
Perfect! Just ordered mine through Amazon. While investigating a wobble in my daughters ceiling fan, found that the box the prev owner used was only your standard light fixture kind. Thank you Sir!
Smart idea to test the tensile strength of the bracket with that thing you made.
Unfortunately the EZ brace 101 wouldn't work in my situation-ceiling light, no room for it in the plastic elec. box, there were 3 separate cables going into the elect. box, 2 on one side, other one feed through the other side of the plastic box and they all 3 feed through the center of the box not though the upper part of the box. There were like 12 or more wires in the box, so no room for the brace to fit up in the box without hitting one or both of the elec. cables wouldn't fit up flush. So couldn't put a ceiling fan in the center bedroom...
This is exactly what I need, I’ve been looking up at this ugly thing too long now but didn’t feel like visiting “Old Sparky” again. This makes it possible for me and lot easier. Where can I find these?
WOW this is an amazing invention of a great product. i would love to buy some of these now i can install a ceiling fan anywhere.😆 even a Hunter Original.
What a great video Robert! You can count on Robert and Pete to do an amazing job and this little gadget shows how far ahead of the game they are. Pete and Robert are my go-to guys for all my home electrical needs! Today (9/13) they just finished up my garage rewire, ceiling fans, switches, and extra conduit for future projects! Kudos guys!
Great video and an incredible help to us DIYers.
I went old school, went into the attic with a two by four, bolted it across the beam over the light fixture then secured the light box to the two by four!
Best invention ever for fans. Bought a long drill bit just to make it easier to drill through the plastic housing. Screws are great and bite well. Use hammer drill to install screws.
Very tight. Made a fairly complex job quite easy. Thanks a lot for the video and idea.
Sadly Hardware stores do not carry EZ-Brace 101, the jungle store does but that's 7-10 days to get it unless you have prime...So you cannot run out and buy one..
I've sent many new product inquiries to home depot, lowe's, grangers and numerous other stores and don't even get a response. I've registered through not only the stores but also product gateway. I've spent a couple years doing everything I can think of to get our products in a store. because of how crooked amazon is that is why it even cost so much to buy our brackets. Hopefully we'll be able to get it in the stores soon. Thank you for your comment.
Still worth it to buy off amazon I just used your brace to install a fan I’m very happy and will highly recommend it to everyone
Robert, thanks for the video, and making us aware of this product. One question: When I remove the old light fixture, and I see that I have a plastic box, how do I know which side of the box is attached to the joist? In my attic, there are 18 inches of insulation on top of the ceiling, so it would be quite difficult for me to get up there and dig around in all that insulation to find the plastic box - in order to see how it is mounted to the joist. Is there a simple way to tell, after removing the light fixture, to determine where the joist is, in relation to the box - without going into the attic, and without removing drywall? I've ordered the EZ Brace 101 and I hope I can install it properly. Many thanks!
You can take a thin flat head screwdriver and wedge it in between the box and drywall and probe around. That's probably the best way if not using something like an icepick and poking through the ceiling than using some silicon caulking to dab the holes afterward if the holes end up being outside of the installed fan canopy.
@@robertleo9744 Thanks so much! I will try your suggestions.
I had to replace a fan in my son’s bedroom and noticed only 1 wire sticking out of the drywall?! So after some research I found the plastic half round side mount box at Home Depot, and it worked very well in my situation largely because of the joist and fan location in proximity to the center of the room.
Sometimes metal boxes have been installed between the joists. Then what? You might have to open up a section of ceiling and install a wooden support and connect box or just screw box to side of a joist or beam. But this video was excellent. Didn't know about this bracket you used.
Have you thought about selling them on eBay? I understand Amazon is a pain but eBay might be easier to get selling and shipping again?
Unfortunately my electric box is not right next to a joist in any of my bedrooms. The builder centered it between two joists so I need a different bracket
Thanks for posting this video! Simple enough for sure.
Installed mine in a metal box. Took a little more effort but worked perfect. Thank god for steel drill bits. Nice product for $20
Can this also be used on a chandelier over the dining table? My chandelier fell out of the ceiling and I want to reinstall it. Upon inspection, it looks like they used very cheap lite weight screws to install it with the cheap plastic utility box. I was going to take the old box out and install a better one but I don't have access to that part of the attic (its a two story house) without ripping out a wall in the attic or the ceiling in my kitchen. My chandeliers weight is about 11 lbs. and I'm lucky only one globe broke when it fell out of the ceiling. I'm trying to reinstall it and then searching for a matching globe to save myself some money. Thank you!
yes it can
I can't find rhis product anywhere.
Something I can't find anywhere, is what do you do if it's a metal box? Does the EZ Brace work with metal boxes? Only solution I can think of is to drill pilot holes.
I have drilled pilot holes in metal boxes, it's a little difficult because you have to drill at an angle
My brother you're an absolute genius. I do a lot of fan installs, and typically under these circumstances I swap out the box for a ceiling fan rated box. I just ordered four of these on Amazon. For the love of God thank you. I will be featuring this on my TikTok channel.
Thank you for your kind words. I really appreciate you, and glad that you're helping show that there is a product out there that makes a non fan rated electric box fan rated.
@@robertleo9744 I just found this. My light box is metal, but not for a fan. Can I predrill through the metal box in order to mount into the joist to use this bracket?
@@rogueteach5197 If your metal box is attached to the joist you can predrill (you have too predrill through the box if metal). Because of the angle the hole might have to be big enough for the screw. only one out of over a three thousand sold has there been a screw break, it wasn't explained to us as to how it happened but I can only assume it was because of the metal box and the screw going in sideways. The screws we use are very strong and that shouldn't happen. The screws we use you can pick up at Home Depot they're spax screws. If your box is not attached to the joist and you don't want to change out your box you can use the EZ-Brace200 or EZ-Brace216. Thank you
@@robertleo9744 Yes. The box is attached to the joist by the side flanges that extend fore and aft of it. I read that specific review of the screw breaking and figured it was user error. I ordered the brace and will let you know how it goes. Thanks. (Getting into the attic above it is a real pain the ass. And, being just knowledgeable enough to turn off the breaker to that room, I really don't want to rewire a new box.)
@@rogueteach5197 Not changing out the box and rewiring it is one of the greatest things about all of our brackets.
its that product UL listed? just to know if my electrical inspector would approved that.
Check this issue out! So i have older home same issue but wires are conduit with and old 1900 in ceiling! As you know there are issues with screw tabs not being strong enough as i customized a 1900 blank plate! box its self seems fastened good to stud im more concerned with screw tabs even though the steel was much better 1950"s original 1900 box! what do i do ? lol!
Great design and time saving design. Your weight test is the selling point! Those other brackets sort of mount to the trusses or rafters but, they sit on top of the sheetrock too. Also the time saver really is the re-wiring the box after you finish. Usually the wires are too short after you change the box out! More work, more time and aggravation!
Great video and keep on creating.
Do you have to have a certain size cup up there? Mine dosent fit in like that. I have a smaller cup that’s not a 4” .
This bracket is being sold on amazon, check out the different pictures of it being installed and one of them is of the EZ-Brace101 installed in a 3 inch plastic box and you can see how it is. Hopefully this will be of help to you.
Great solution to a pain in the ass problem..
EZ Brace....Ok
Not to code. Insurance will not pay.
A fan box is supported by the joists.
You might want to check the NEC code 422.18 before you make such a statement , thank you .
These are on Amazon everyone
Great info. I hadnt seen that bracket before. Thanks!
we just designed that bracket about a year ago, we have three other brackets where you don't have to remove the existing box. they're all patent pending right now. we hsve to wait until sept. before we have all of them available for the market.
@@robertleo9744 oh no!!! I need this now!!! 😫
Very helpful! Thank you
A twin is better than a single as long as both engines function normally (aircraft analogy) as long as both screws hit the meat of the stud your good to go.
Looking forward to when this product is available. I need 3. It’s genius! Are you on Instagram?
the website will be up and going this week
@@robertleo9744 Thank-you for the notification
Not up yet.
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I want this!!!!! Holy Smokes I have killed my self replacing boxes in all the bedrooms to put in ceiling fans....... SMH. I want this right now! Where can I buy it. Amazing invention!
our first order will be here by the end of the month. we'll be setting up our website before then with a paypal or something so that people can go on there and buy this bracket or any of our other new products. FixtureSupportSystems.net. thank you very much for your interest. we probably need to show a lot of sales in order to get these products into a home depot or lowe's.
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@@robertleo9744 I just ordered it!!!! Should I will make a video of me installing it.... let me know
I have a loose box for my chandelier
Going to get the bracket to secure the loose box. Thank you.
Thank you for making this video. That brace will save me a lot of time on one of my fixtures.
Thank you so much as beating my head against the wall trying to figure out how I was going to put up the fan for my girl
Awesome! I like this guy!
I'm actually going do this week, thanks, Robert, I wasn't sure how to go about it!
Just ordered 2 my boxes are plastic and has nob and tube and lots of wires 4 in all.cant get access but if I did would do this way,this is brilliant will let you know comes is Wednesday.
This video was very helpful and nice. Thanks for your hard work.
Out of stock! Please make more or give us a direct link to buy
It's not out of stock, it's just amazon giving me a hard time. Might not see this product again(at least 20 years or so because I have a patent on it).
I replaced my first fan w/o much problems except that the new one had a remote receiver which made it difficult to squeeze the wires in and close the housing. I used space saving push in clips instead of traditional wire nuts which made the job possible. However, when I attempted to replace the second fan I discovered that the new one needed a bigger and different ceiling fan-box and decided it was too much work and mess. I put that fan away to wait for better days and moved on to replace kitchen light with a new one. As I opened the packaging for the new light I just bought I discovered a huge 9 inch bracket the new light came with. I put that one away too to wait for better days. Something always happens...
Good deal....
Just be sure your not putting the screws into the wires that you cant see in the ceiling
Are these designed only for fans on downrods, or can they work with flush mounted fans?
Thank you so much for this video now I know what I need to buy 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Great Video. Thanks. Will this bracket work with an existing shallow electrical box?
My house was built in 1966. The electrical boxes are all metal. I doubt that those TORX screws will be able to go through metal. What length drill bit would I need to create a pilot hole using the bracket? I'm going to see where I can buy these brackets in Nov.2022.
I would use 5 inch long drill bit if your going to use the bracket for a guide.
my box is 2 inches deep. will this brace fit?
Yes, it most definitely will.
nice, are these available at Lowes or home depot??
I am trying to purchase on your site but the site won't progress to the payment screen.
Thank you for makimg this video and great job of explaining all the details.
the last portion of the video looked like it was hanging in a different location. Next to a door or some other opening? . . . so close to the back wall, is it a 6" fan blade? So many questions. But I'll try the product and test it for myself.
All portions of the video was recorded in the same place. it wasn't in a room with a door, it was a made up ceiling that was lifted to show the installation of the EZ-Brace101 and lowered so that I can hang the weights from the fixture bracket
I just tried to buy 2 on the website, but there is no way to type in a credit card number. I tried directly typing in the field, cut and pasting, and even selecting other countries just to activate the block. No luck.
try amazon
Holy cow! Very very nice. Thanks for sharing.
Can’t find this anywhere. Not amazon, not homedepot, not Lowe’s.
you can just tell based on how this guy talks that you should trust him
WOW,,, got to see if they sell these at HD or Lowes - that was very fast I'd take all day doing this task... ha and nice that he put the weights on it to show it will hold way more weight than a ceiling fan...
Would this work with I-bean joist? If it screws onto the thin part? I would think it won’t hold the weight like it would with 2x6 beams or 2x8 beams. Any ideas for the I-beam joist for easy install?
I have conduit with to ends terminating on top of the box ?
I liked that Jere Burns explained this to me. He was really funny in Angie Tribeca.
And what about a metal box with only ears?
This is just what Im looking for, unfortunately it appears that it's no where to be found. I've tried websites and your link you mentioned in a comment below, but, still nothing.
Sorry for the late response. At the moment EZ Bracket 101 can only be purchase on amazon. Link below.
www.amazon.com/Generic-101-EZ-Brace101/dp/B0B4QV16DB
How does it handle a wobble, Is it UL tested?
when the backet is tighten down there is no wobble.
Wish I could give you 100 thumbs up. Great tutorial.
I really love this EZ-Brace 101. Is it any way I can get one before Sept? Are you in FL?
the website will be up and going this week
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Thank you Robert. Make more videos !
I went to the website on the description but it sends me to something totally different. Can you post it as a direct link on the description? Thanks
It's been changed to .com instead of .net
Best video of this ever! Thank you Robert!
Thank you sir! I'm an elderly guy but with the information in the video I believe I can do it. Great video!😊😊
Thanks for the video and the new option. I’m gonna have to get two of these. I’m putting up two ceiling fans they’re pre-wired but it’s a plastic square one receptacle electrical box in the ceiling with a square cover will it work with one of those? Thanks again.
You guys need to sell on Amazon.
We're working on that right now
you can buy this on amazon now
Is this available at Home Depot in Canada?
What if the box is only mounted with 2 screws and barely holds up a light fixture?
When you install the EZ-Brace101 it is fastened directly to the ceiling joist through the box making the existing screws holding up the box irrelevant
Sick. Done so so many brackets from below. DUDE!!! THANK YOU
Thank You so much for your video ! Great thing that ez brace 101!!!
Very good!
How do o figure out where the joist is?
You use a screwdriver to insert between the electric box and drywall to probe around, use a thin screwdriver so if you need to poke through drywall you can easily fill with caulking
very nice. thanks for showing this ez-brace, bro 👍
Great
Nice invention. However I have 2 concerns: 10 Is it UL listed, and 2) how does it affect box fill?
thanks for the informative video.
it's in the process of getting listed, and as far as box fill although it may look like it takes up some room, it virtually takes up no room.
Please let us know when it’s available for purchase. Great product
our website should be up soon. FixtureSupportSystems.net
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Thank you. This is the third video I’ve watched about this and the first one that showed me anything useful.
This is awesome
Some j/a decided to mount a ceiling fan on a plastic box and it was extremely wobbly. This saved me a lot of headache
I just ordered a fan that will be replacing a light fixture, I'll definitely need one of these
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Where can I get this bracket??
You did a good job on the video, I was able to follow and will do the same when installing my ceiling fans.
Moving into new mobile home, which is a single wide home. Will this brace work in a mobile home because want to install a ceiling fan in master bedroom that currently has a can style led light?
When you say can style light I'm thinking recess light, not knowing if it is a 4 inch or a 6 inch light or if the can is directly attached to the ceiling joist. If the ceiling fan canopy is able to cover over either the 4inch or 6 inch can opening and you're going to use the can as the electric work box per say and it's attached to the ceiling joist it should work.
You should also check to see if the depth from surface of the ceiling to bottom of the box "can"
is at least 1 3/4 inch. Hope that this helps you.
@Robert Leo thanks for the reply. Can let you know on the diameter of Can style recessed light. Honestly looks like 4 inch, but will check
Great invention. I would like to buy several.
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Too bad this only works on newer plastic boxes./ My 100 year old house is all metal boxes in the ceiling.
check out our little video on our EZ-Brace200. We have rewired a couple houses that were over 100 years old and used some parts from our 200
about 6 minutes into that video we talk about the old nob and tube electric boxes
Very helpful, exactly what I needed. Thanks, you are the man!
I can't find where to get one of these. Link doesn't work and not available online. :(
You should be able to purchase any of our products on fixturesupportsystems.net