PS5 Pro’s Leaked Specs Don’t Have Us Reaching For Our Wallets - Next-Gen Console Watch
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2024
- Welcome back to Next-Gen Console Watch. This week, Max is in the host seat, joined by Brian Altano from IGN's PlayStation podcast, Beyond, and Stella Chung, from IGN's Unlocked podcast. The topic: the PS5 Pro leak and is it even worth it if it-reportedly-can't play GTA 6 at 60fps? And even if it could, how much would it be worth to you? Plus we go over last week's poll, and have a new poll to vote on at IGN.com.
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They need to start pre building 2TB on consoles
sure but that would mark the price even higher.
10 TB
Yeah, raise the price a couple hundred dollars😑
You can put an ssd in it.
When can we just stop with 4k 30fps and just release stuff at 60fps only……
exactly until they’re able to give us his capability there should be no pro console.
The pro is not coming
@@josephcox2201 yes, it really is, commercially it would have had plans when the base ps5 was being developed like the switch oled and before the switch 2 arrives
all they've done is overclocked the chip, very easy in Pc terms which essentially is what consoles are using now in terms of architecture
If you dont own a ps5, its a waste of money, the ps6 will be here soon after as was the ps5 after ps4 pro.
Commerce is the goal of any COMPANY, ITS COMING for this reason alone.
Once consoles go away forever, which they probably won’t.
@_Cetarial That's such an extreme comment. People probably said the same thing about 1080p 30fps yet consoles can do that easily.
The regular PS5 barely even has any generational exclusives that can't be played on the PS4. I'm not buying any new hardware until we're truly talking next gen.
Nobody asked you too this is a choice you can cry
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@@muresanandrei7565average ps fanboy when someone doesn’t ride sony
More worthless sony hardware junk
@@muresanandrei7565 when they put it for sale they are asking people to buy it dumbass
Just so we're clear:
There ARE Next Gen games?
Yes.
But y'all just want to be the loudest ... Because fanboying?
Wow. Imagine how well the ps5 pro will run ps4 games.
Lmao
The same cus they will keep them locked.
Rdr2 30fps akrham Knight 30fps...the list goes on.
@StalkerAndroid18 if only. Will the developers of games go back and make them 4k 60fps or just leave it. Look at rdr2 on current gen ps5 and series x. They're locked at their last gen upgraded models. Ps5 is stuck at 1440p ps4 pro version at 30fps and the series x is locked at 4k one x version also at 30fps. Even though they're both capable of 4k 60fps or at least performance mode could.
@@_CrimsonBlade when? Not one conversation is about gta. Also, rdr2 is rockstars most demanding game atm
@@_CrimsonBlade also, considering the major differences in gta5 and rdr2, gta6 is going to be very demanding
We are like almost 4 years in with the PS5. The first console still is new to me to be honest.
Corona ruined the first years but Sony will not delay the PS6. It will come around 2027/2028. A shame, way too quick.
PS4 Pro came out after 3 years.
Right , knowing that ...When the PS6 comes out there will be another 5 years of cross gen games FFS!@@ashokathegreat4534
For the first two years of the consoles release no one could get a console due to the idiotic scalpers!
feels more like a console refresh to me, just an excuse to push more sales than a meaningful upgrade
That's... exactly what it is
Companies are trying to sell things. Shocking!
Just go get a pc spend thousands on a pc you will spend 2k to 3k to get a pc setup that compares to the base ps5
Well duh, what else would you call it? Were you expecting PS6?
yes, because this is quite literally a console refresh. what is the point of this comment?
And yet all we get are re releases of PS2 games and the occasional decent RPG
Jesus dude, at this point I'd be happy to play games at 1080p if it means a locked 60fps. No rayrracing even.
You can play as much 60fps on pc as you want at a comparable price to Console if you know what to look for.
Right? I'm over trying to get to 4K. 1080p 60fps with some enhancements is fine with me
1080p is a peasant resolution
@@UmVtCg😢
For real. Just adding some dlss like solution isn't enough. Upgrade the cpu, gpu and vram by at least 20% and I'd consider it
Yeah we need guaranteed 60fps on games for it to be worth it.
Ever ps5 game is 60fps
So what are you talking about
@@josephcox2201 No they aren't thats why lots of games have performance modes.
Nah, you really don't. And, you won't
What is the Pro going to release with? Just going to tell me to play old games on a more expensive console.😂
Same game but more stable frame rate
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Astro's Playroom at 120 fps.
Also insiders have said that Sony is going the same route as the slim with the attachable disk drive version being $599 and the digital will be $499. They are also aiming to cut the price of the standard PS5/Slim as well.
If it is an improvement…if..at this point just wait another year or two to release a new model entirely. Given the supply issues for both current generations and the over-sell that was both, then just double down on making whatever comes next worth buying
More of an addressing the launch console’s shortfalls, rather than a truly big leap forward.
Not really. The CPU is the same.
@@TheAmazingSpiderGuy_99 cpu is not the problem. At least not for competent devs.
Not really. The ps5 hasn’t been fully utilized to it’s potential, largely in part to the devs. This “pro” version is just a shameless cash grab.
Digital Foundry don't really have all of the details of the PS5 Pro. They are speculating. They don't even know what implementation the GPU is. They only know that the GPU is clocked lower in certain situations.
It’s not speculation, the specs have been leaked, pro is still going to have a weak CPU no point buying games are still going to struggle
@@Dapstar211 supposed leaked specs have changed several times already.
GTA 6 should be running 60fps on the base PS5….the fact that it won’t be able to on the PRO is just goofy and funny at this point if it wasn’t so shocking and disappointing
One of the dumbest technical convos I've ever heard
Yup. 20 minutes of nonsense
@@paulm251820 minutes of not knowing what they're talking about
Anyone know what the Nvidia pc equivalent for GPU is for the PS5 Pro?
RTX 4070
@@HarmanSingh-wd4ibridiculous
its 60 percent weaker than the 3070
7:37 bigger yes, better quality noooo. You should still keep your PS4 and other previous generation consoles up in your house Brian
You mean to tell me a rumor about another rumor isn't enough to make you reach for your wallets?
Glad to see you learned something from 3 years of waiting with your wallets open for the Switch Pro 😂.
I'm more curious about a new switch but the ps5's development journey is interesting. Ps5 seems all over the place. Too many console refreshes for a limited game library.
Weak CPU is a massive disappointment. Frame generation won’t help when your CPU is pathetic. Case in point, Dragon Dogma 2. PCs just power through when consoles are locked at 30 FPS and below.
PC is also below 40 in DD2 cities even with 500 dollars CPU... The only thing that will get you out of that unoptimized mess of a game is the frame gen mod.
Players should already know this is just some small tweak to the console, not some massive upgrade
Too few games on ps5 to be worth the upgrade …
Next 2 years there will be alot of new games for ps5 and gta 6 will help sell the ps5
Really? Because I’ve got plenty.
@@_CetarialYou got plenty of PS5 exclusive games?
Undercover Xbox fanboy. My back log is huge
@@_CetarialNo you don’t lmao you don’t even understand what he’s saying
where did you get that alien shirt ?
Ps4 pro and ps5 relied on checkerboard rendering to boost resolution, so hopefully their new upscaler is better
I'm happy with my OG ps5 No need to upgrade .
You will want to when you see GTA running on the OG PS5 Pro
Serious question...
Does hardware power really matter if all of the resources go to graphics? No matter how powerful the hardware is it wouldn't reach 60 if you prioritize graphics and then try and figure out the FPS right?
Told yall that sony stock gonna crash like the 2008 housing market 😂☕️
After what it took to get my PS5 I'm never giving it up exchanging it or upgrading it beyond the two terabytes worth of memory I've already put in it. It is what it is until the PS6.
Exactly!
Weird how people are already making their decision before is official reveal, knowing what games will be releasing at launch and shortly after that can benefit from it, and seeing what the machine can actually do for past and future games. Might be worth it and it might not for some people. People are over reactionary.
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Native 4K60 without compromised graphic details isn't going to happen on this generation. 4K upscaled from 1440P and limited ray tracing at 60fps will be the best outcome we could hope.
Especially by barely upgrading console 😊
Series x can do both 4k and 60fps for doom and doom eternal, gears 5, halo infinte, titanfall 2, ori, and tons of other games.
@@andrewmiller7671 All of them are dynamic resolution except for Ori.
Would rather have 1440p 90fps native
Lols you need a beefy PC to even play at native 4k at 60fps (no dlss) and you think a 600$ console can do it? In your dreams. Maybe the ps7 can.
Great mistakes in naming 1:28:
The PS5’s gpu has “pisser” technology 😕
Seems to be a lot of misinformation the aim of the ps5 pro is to play game at 4k 60/120 fps with ray tracing something the ps5 cannot do, if you are happy with 30 fps then stick with the ps5.
There is alot of games you can play 4k at 120fps
On the ps5
Gta6 will do 60 fps at 1440p and 30fps with 4k and ray tracing on ps5
You're wrong bro
It actually gives it more graphic fidelity and a performance mode that allows the CPU to perform slightly better than the Xbox Series X. They ain't gonna reach those fps targets unless it's old games.
There's no need for a Pro model if nothing but incremental upgrades have been made.
This is a lot more than incremental. This is not a group that understands tech very well.
@@DeesBees85It's definitely incremental. You'd think going from 10 tflops to 16 tflops is a lot, but it's really not, especially if trying to do 4k gaming. That's like going from an RTX 3060 (which is technically more powerful still) to an RTX 3060 ti.. an almost 4 year old low-to-mid GPU.
The real appeal would be if PSSR is more useful than FSR. If PSSR can achieve a similar visual quality to DLSS then it could be a potential game changer. But don't expect a mindblowing improvement in overall performance based on the GPU specs.
@@Bry.89it’s going to 33 teraflops, and you’re a noob anyway because teraflops don’t tell the full capability of the console.
@@Bry.89was about to say that. Thr pssr might make the difference here. If it works as well as dlss then it's worth selling your base ps5 and fork a bit of extra money on top to get a pro.
@@TheRambossa noob? Who says noob in 2024? Of course tflops don't tell you the whole picture. But you're wrong. The 33.5 Tflops is referring to the raytracing capability, which isn't that much. The 3060 has 25 RT-Tflops for instance, and the 3060 Ti has 32 RT-Tflops. So it's still on the older last gen end of the performance spectrum. My 4 year old RTX 3070 has 40 RT-tflops..
So maybe learn what specs you're actually referring to before commenting.
Sony isn't meeting their own sales goals at the current prices. An even more expensive console isn't going to turn that around for them.
This convinced me to wait for PS6 or wait for the exclusives on PC/Steam.
I'll wait for the ps6 to launch, then get the ps5 pro. That should see me through the next 4 years.
Hmm CPU can overclock boost by 10% , X3 more tflops graphics, faster memory, better ray trace cores, upscaling like fsr, ai cores. Did you even read the specs lol? Not worth the upgrade????? That's like a pc user taking out their 3060ti and putting in a 3080. Then taking their 5700 to a 5800x .Are you ok? Look at it more like a pc. Cause it basically is now.
This cycle came out a year or two early. Now mid cycle upgrades seem so bleh. Seems like theyre both coasting until next gen in 2027-8ish
Would be interesting to know what specs a gaming PC would need to have to compare to the PS Pro. Thinking upgrading your PC might be cheaper now .
can we fix the fact that some of our ps4 disc games auto download once we have upgraded to a ps5 version lol . makes no sense that it’s still a problem
It could had been the slim version like wtf is that? not even worth bothring for 10% increase performance
Sorry, but Ps4 Pro "could" render and output at 4k 60 Hz with HDR, but only if you gave it something very easy to render like a single cube with no texture. Just because something is able to do it, doesn't mean it can do it well.
Ps5 pro is definitely worth the purchase for the Ai PSSR if it really improve visual quality In performance modes of games
If AI is used across the board that will be a game changer.
Tell me you dont know anything about AI without telling me you know anything about AI
What do you think AI will do huh?
@@DutchManticore so Nvidia's AI was not a game changer? You must be out of tune with console gaming, if Sony does something similar for playstation then the reason to buy the pro will be the AI usage and not only the hardware update
@@tonyrivera8996 what do you mean with AI? DLSS?
@@DutchManticore Deep Learning is AI.
What's the PS5 pro killer app going to be because right now the PS5 has less exclusives than a virtual fricking boy.
Digital foundry can't tell you anything about how a game that hasn't released will run on a console thats never even been announced
Lol true is not like they play GTA6 to know
Digital Foundry is literally specialized in doing technical and image analysis .
You can look at the images that Rockstar uploaded, and analyse things like pixel density, framecount, and use graphical artifacts to see what the source framerate and resolution was.
They are not randomly claiming things like Kotaku. Thats why people take Digital foundry seriously.
You dont know any of this and you think they're making everything up lol
@@carlosoto1115Digital Foundry is literally specialized in doing technical and image analysis .
You can look at the images that Rockstar uploaded, and analyse things like pixel density, framecount, and use graphical artifacts to see what the source framerate and resolution was.
They are not randomly claiming things like Kotaku. Thats why people take Digital foundry seriously.
You dont know any of this and you think they're making everything up lol
@@DutchManticore They've been wrong about plenty, and there's concrete proof of them being bias.
A preview of a game that's in active development doesn't tell you anything. It literally says it will change.
The console hasn't even been announced.
Sony and Rockstar have had a great relationship for many years.
Mark Cerny has made it a point to talk to all major developers since he's been designing consoles. If you don't think he spent a lot of time with Rockstar when designing the pro, you're crazy. Anyone can see how big of an opportunity this is.
People are underestimating the PSSR. EA said it was exceeded their expectations. They had Jedi Survivor running at 4k 120fps, zero hiccups, with minimal effort
@@B-U-T-C-H-E-R Ill come back after the ps5 pro gets released and GTA6 turns out to be 4k upscaled at 30fps
12:02 in....Tell me you're old without telling me you're old....I feel your pain sir.
they could upgraded cpu to atleast a zen 3 processor.
zen 3 & zen2 share similar architecture & same motherboard
so why not zen 3 cpu???!!! similar to 5700X
They should just focus on an ultra slim model, make it look sleeker and increase storage size to 2tb
Yeah not a bad idea, like what they did with the PS2. The PS2 was the least powerful of it's generation, but won, not because of amazing graphics, but exclusives and amazing games.
big question, will this support blu-ray??
They've basically done the best they can without making it astronomically expensive, losing back compat and/or making it difficult for developers.
People seem to want it to be a PS6.
First! Im keeping my Spiderman 2 Edition PS5 until the PS6 then.
There won’t be a ps6. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. Sony is cooked.
Ong they prolly just gonna drop a playstation gaming pc
@@ShadyDBZ4 that’s the time i’ll get a pc.
@@ShadyDBZ4If they are releasing a PS5 Pro then there will be a 99% chance of a PS6.
@@ShadyDBZ4 stop it bro... its best selling console of this gen
Honestly, this gen has been a massive disappointment, it feels like a stopgap gen between PS4 and PS6 while they're trying to figure out what to do next. Hopefully, we will see really big leaps when the PS6 rolls around, as it sure wasn't this gen.
ps5 is far stronger then the ps4
Theyll likely charge 649.99 unless they adjust base ps5 to 399 and ps5 pro to 549 or something.
Isn't it a little premature to talk about mid gen refreshes "happening 4 years later" when they only really did the "Pro" type upgrade once?
The first time was three years later
Love y’all, thanks for the content
A pro only makes this gen longer - plenty time to make more games for this gen.
More optimizations will not fundamentally change the fact that games are struggling to hit even 720p in performance model.
If the ps4Pro was launched because 1080p was too blurry for 4K screens, then the PS5Pro is more than justified.
Getting one day 1.
That's what the sheep do, you nailed it.
@@XFile91 Do sheep make a generation longer? Or are sheep the reason base consoles are not powerful enough? Or are sheep the ones that hold off buying a console until one that can actually deliver acceptable image quality exist?
Your statement isn’t clear, please use more words if you can.
it's purely to cash in on GTA. marketing genius to release a console with gta. Scummy but it will sell millions.
Doesn't make sense. There's all kinds of custom hardware in there, which is a lot of work for one game. Pro models didn't sell as well as the regular models last generation. Anyone who dismisses this as a cash grab needs to think more.
RTX off looks better than RTX on
Why do people question advancement? Makes no sense...
because their are poor and trying to cope somehow
Vote with your wallets, dont buy gta if 30 fps is unacceptable and dont buy ps5 pro when its basically pointless.
Can only hope one day we have console that we can play sony and xbox titles on without exclusive bulls***
If GTA6 is actually going to do the budget game move and not have a performance mode like many actual AAA games has then it should in fact be regarded as a budget game.
Something's telling me that Sony is going to want to be able to use GTA6 having a performance mode on the PS5 pro as a marketing point.
Sarah Bond has the right idea just make the most powerful console possible alongside a cheaper version every few years. This way everyone is happy people who want the best experience will buy the series x2 and people who just want to play the latest games will buy the series s2.
This will sell out immediately
You can have the most powerful piece of hardware/gaming console, yet if there are no games to utilize it, then there’s no reason to have the console. We need games. Not consoles
Im waiting on the PlayStation handheld or an xbox hand-held
For how hard it was to get a PS5 in the beginning, then waiting for an upgradable hard drive. I’m not going to buy the pro version, at this point Sony is just milking profits from us and not really giving us anything. And that’s coming from a Sony loyalist.
The PS4 Pro was released 3 years after the PS4, not 4 years. The PS5Pro has already been delayed by a year because of the situations.
That's ok. I'll reach for my wallet
If not powerful enough, why dont go 4k with full ray tracing in 45fps instead? Its obviously better than 30 fps, even though it doesnt hit 60fps
would need to be 40 in a 120 mode
We weren't ready for the tech in this gen?? This current gen tech should've been out 5-6 years ago
No way it will be 700 dollars! If that is the price it will tank.
I’m more than happy with my PS5 Amateur.
Xbox One X and PS4 Pro were doing 4k30, whats the point of a new console running stuff at 4k30?
THANK YOU
It seems like a decent jump in graphical power, cpu not so much.
That said, this isnt the mainstream console, it will exist alongside the normal slim version.
You dont need to buy this if you dont think its for you.
Sony should’ve took a page from Nintendo and just waited. Look at what Nintendo did. They honestly had plans to release their next generation Nintendo switch this year probably last year is what they had theorized and then they said we can just wait. Games today aren’t pushing our platforms to the limit. We just only recently started seeing games that are this generation only. Even the best of the best games we love this year had issues because we haven’t earned all the kinks out of these platforms and now we want a new one.
One word. Frame rate. That’s the only thing that will get me to upgrade. I’m over 30 fps
Lenovo legion go has better specs than the alleged leaked specs of PS5 Pro..
IF T2 could give up that quad dipping release strategy for GTA 6 and prioritize PC they could set the bar with AI development with Microsoft but its T2.
So its basically a ps5 thats had some encouragement shouted at it in a lab for a week.
If it can’t guarantee 4k 60+ I’ll stick with my launch model
show us the new pro console.
They come out with a mid gen refresh right now alot of people are ganna be pissed some people just bought these consoles
*If GTA 6 is limited to 30fps and not 60fps I’m sticking to GTA 5 PS5 version*
Digital Foundry thought the Series X was gonna destroy the PS5, we seen how that played out.
It does when it’s utilize, it’s the parity issue that holds the console back.
@TheBean87 stop it. The PS5 usually comes out on top during comparisons and they produced games that have better graphics and performance than anything Microsoft has released.
Sometimes the PS5 is better, and sometimes the Series X is better.
Neither is better than the other.
@@_CetarialBe quiet. You're making to much sense. People hate that.
@@siriusshabazz7746nope.
More games plays better on Series X than ps5..
Argentina channel has changed so much. It's almost like they're just pushing narratives instead of reporting and being genuine.
Xbox 360 and Ps3 had like 4 models this mid gen refresh is not last gen new. In fact Nintendo Gameboy was freshed many of times before the DS came out and then the Ds and 3ds all had mid gen fresh.
Imagine playing GTA6 @30fps in 2025 😒
One year before gta6 release?
They shoulda done a slim not a pro. Cheaper, slimmer and then do a ps6 when ready.
But there’s already a PS5 Slim?…
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Kind of @@IAmSarlosCantana
@wiseman : That is also my opinion !!! 👍
Right, drop the pro when developers finally fully abandon the ps4
Man, so it isn't just Nvidia making meaningless upgrades that aren't worth buying..
These days Sony releases new hardware then instantly tells us the games they want to make require better hardware 😂
Why are people so obsessed with 60fps?
Because it is smooth and makes games look nice and control like butter
Fast response displays like OLED stutter terribly with 30fps content. Looks like objects momentarily move backwards.
IGN needs to credit Digital Foundry for this insight.
Digital Foundry needs to credit Moore's Law Is Dead for his insight.
And maybe don't act like IGN can't just look at a leaked spec sheet and have their own opinion. Digital Foundry is a cool channel by they're not the only smart hardware people.
My ps5 with vrr hitting 4k ~43fps is fine
only 2TB is hardly enough
I’m gonna buy a ps5 pro, print out a picture of max’s face and tape it to the console. He my ps5 professional❤️
They are saying we need the PS5 Pro in order to play GTA 6.😂
PS4 games will run like butter on the PS5 Pro. Cant wait
lmao " when you watch horror movies on shudder at 6 in the morning, from the 1970's, is that going to change anything" lmao