How To Properly Time and Install Timing Chains on a TSI Engine
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
- Timing chain failure is very common on 2.0t TSI engines. Both VW and Audi have both timing chain tensioner failure, and timing chain wear or stretch. In this video we will cover how to replace a timing chain on TSI engines, how to properly time a TSI/TFSI engine, how to time the TSI balance shaft chain, the timing chain tools you will need, and more.
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This video was instrumental in helping me get my timing chains replaced 100% correctly on my 2.0 tsi engine. I'm so very grateful that I bought this car. With this engine. Because it introduced me to your channel Charles. Your an awesome mechanic
I just did this job on my gen 1 2.0 tsi CCTA engine with 145k miles, engine live data channel 93 intake cam adjustment was at -5.4, after the replacement of all the chains, guides, & and updated timing chain tensioner. channel 93 shows -1.02 degrees of adjustment and the engine runs smoother for sure.
I worked on this job for 21 hours non stop. From 9am Thursday to 6am Friday. If it cost me 1k in labor then my time spent working on this was ~20 dollars an hour. So if you make less than that consider DIY it's worth it.
This was a life changing experience guys.
While I was working on it, the timing slipped on me and I started panic, but then I collected my self. watched this video over and over, read my factory manual and torqued my heart out.
I have driven the car around town, and it runs great. Really really great. I am so glad that I didn't destroy my engine. I am so happy 21 hours of my life didn't go to waste.
I'm really eager to see how the pistons rings and cylinder walls will hold up as I drag this thing into 200k miles.
Getting to work on engines for the first time has been really cool. But I wouldn't have even attempted this if I couldn't find good resources about the job online.
Thank you so much Charles
Care to lend a hand? I have to do mine soon as well. Gearing up
@@bobbystronghands9172 Maybe. I'd hate to be responsible for any mishaps. I worked 21 hours non stop in my driveway, I would definitely have rather done the work in the garage.
I've used this video about six times now on several different jobs as a good reference to make sure I'm doing it right and don't miss anything. Absolute lifesaver. ❤️ -self employed mechanic
Just wow dude, you make a very daunting task to someone new to this look actually quite simple. You are an excellent teacher I must say.
I was always scared of chains but I'd do them all day long over a belt system now lol
Puder McGavin The worst timing job I ever did was a 3.0TT in a 3000GT.
After that one, there was no such thing as a hard engine to time.
These are easy. Buy the camshaft holding tool
If a 3000gt is the hardest timing job you haven't done many bmw or audis. I have a vr4 and it was way easier then this. I also did a timing job on a v10 bmw so maybe I'm just using that as a comparison lmao
@@nicholasbrown6481 I've got the kit for the 1.4 litre VW engine, & it will do others. I agree on buying the right tools, like he used in this video. The kit I got cost me $400!! The kit is worth having. We most likely have seen lots of easy to do jobs ruined by lack of suitable tools.
This upload came at perfect timing, just had a 2011 A5 come into work with a timing failure and no compression. Just got the head off yesterday ready for rebuild, measured between the cam marks at just over 150MM and the inlet mark was between links. So obviously I’ll be replacing all the chain so this video was extremely helpful and saved me having to read the manual, it’s much easier visually seeing the process.
Thanks 👍🏻
Thank you for this video. I'm in the process of a total overhaul on my GTI and I was very concerned I wouldn't get this part right. Watching this video, I gained a better understanding and yesterday, I got this knocked out without issue and MUCH quicker than I thought I would. Again, I appreciate your content!
I do not understand wtf it is on some people's mind when giving dislike.
You present and prepare all so good and explicit :links, tips&tricks... etc
I like and apreciate very much your work.
Thumbs up!
Just a follow up i changed everything just like you did on my 2012 Golf Gti Mk6, done more than 3000km and everything sounds perfect. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for this. I am a fourth year mechanic that has been almost left stranded in the current shop I’m in, hardly anyone who has the know how or cares to help me. Thanks for this video as a guideline. I have one that needs the rocker/camshaft cover resealed.
!!Volkswagen!!......turns every owner into a mecanic since about the 50's🤣🤣
Honestly I think everyone should learn how to turn a wrench regardless of the type of car… owning Volkwagens gave me the confidence to tackle it on my own and I’ll never look back
lol!
Hahaha very funny bla bla bla,when you do what manufactor says everything goes well..
If you don't do it go buy bicycle cause you are useless for cars...
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If I get stuck I use your vidios thanks Mr humble machanic for service.
I watched a few of these how to videos but not until I watched yours did I understand how everything works and gave me the confidence to do timing and balance shaft chain. Thank you. Came out and runs perfectly.
Charles is absolutely right about taking your time and following the shop manual. Set the beer aside for later. Be rested and alert. Do it in stages if you can. Tearing it down only took me a few hours. Then I stopped and read about it again and again. As it is I did a full timing set on my B8 A4 as "maintenance" last fall before the old tensioner coughed. Guides, bolts, chains, balance shafts, gears, cover, timing bridge. Yes I plan to keep the car. It's not really a hard job but you need to be alert. If you lose timing or forget to torque something down bad things can happen in a hurry. And the fact that the timing marks don't line up after rotating the engine one or two revolutions threw me until I read about it. An Audi engineering paper stated something like 164 revolutions. Crazy. I bet you I checked those marks 10x :). Good luck!
I just did a timing chain on my daughter's vw tiguan. This video helped a lot. I wouldn't do the job without the shop manual ( I downloaded mine). It's a tedious job, but as long as you double and triple check your timing before you button it up, you'll be good.
My buddy did timing on one of these a few months back, they way he described it sounded very scary/complex lol this video makes it feel quite easy! Won’t be scared to do my MK7 GTI timing once it’s needed! Thanks Charles!
Yeah try doing that while the engine is on the car and you will feel like hell is a nice place to be...
The hardest part of doing this job is gaining access to it. Helpful video by the way.
Back in 1970 it took me only a couple of hours with tools I found in the basement to replace the timing chain and gears in my Buick V6. Much simpler times😂
The good old days!
Hey Charles thanx for the you tube classroom. I've been doing this stuff 50 years and you taught me a bunch. Another success!
Thanks so much
Looking to build my own tsi from the ground up, timing was one of the things I am looking forward to learning the most aswell as the entire build process, great guide!
Hey buddy
Wow that is such great advice, as I am trying to rebuild my sons car engine, which was his passion and jot. Unfortunately he passed away last year due to long term illness. I want to build the engine and car back in his memory, so it is much appreciated the help and guidance you giving us all.
Thank you so much you just helped me do my first timing chain job. Everything was very detailed and clear. I appreciate the time you took to allow us to get the job done well
One of the best explanations, no fluff just exactly what is needed to get the job done! Great job
Thank you. Glad it helped
I'm about to tackle the timing chain replacement on my 2010 GTI and this is the best detailed video I've seen so far.
Thanks,man.
How did it go?
@@videoheapit went well, already put almost 1K miles, no codes,no check engine light thanks for asking.
@@masmrz is it still running good?
@@mitchellg3893 prob sold the car at this point
I followed your video step by step and I got my car working thank you very much for this detailed video.
I had a 2009 1.8 tsi VW Passat with 219000km but i got tired of repairing it all the time and got rid of it and got a 2012 C250 Mercedes with 145000 kilometers. This Mercedes has perfect service history and great equipment list
I got into mechanics recently and don't got a lot of experience. All i can say is thanks dude. I'm still a 19yo in the beginning of his learning maybe won't do this rn cz i don't have access to a garage yet but at least now i understand the process of timing. UA-cam really makes me learn more than what university did this first year.
Awesome video and great tips Also don’t forget to bolt the cam bridge up before tensioning the main chain. With the chain tight it makes installing the bridge much more difficult.
I just wrapped up the timing set on a 2011 A5 this evening. I did have a heck of a time getting the cam bridge on because I had put it under tension first. This was my first time doing an Audi timing job and I didn't even think of it. I wish I had read all the comments first!
So many markers! Clarity and detail 100%. Easy to see why such repairs are seriously expensive.
Having all the special tools is a must.
Cleaning the old gasket sealant is a pain, takes forever, falls everywhere.
It looks easy with the engine out, but man there is an engine mount bridge in front of the timing cover/chain, that is a hassle to remove those three bolts with triple squares.
This is the person that left my comment about 180degrees off of the camshaft
Thanks anyway I was able to get it
Timed
Roy
Best video instructions about VW TSI engine timing. Thank you for teaching!!!!
This was helpful af got to my Audi A3 last week took it apart and put it back together good stuff man 👌
This video was a great help along side the manual I'm more of a visual person and your video made things click better than just reading the manual over and over thanks again 👍
Thank you!! That was exactly what I wanted from the video. An aid to the repair manual!
You make everything look so simple. Everything was explained with such amazing detail. Thank you so much! Keep up the amazing work.
Your video explains a lot and simplifies this job well, Planned on doing this job for a while and stopped driving my A3 when it started making noise on startup.
Glad I did cause today I got the lower timing cover off to be met with the early style chain tensioner..
My car was serviced at the dealer until 2019 under the 10yr warranty program by the previous owner, I was surprised to see the early tensioner style hanging out in there at 140kmiles.
That video is probably the best timing tutorial ever . Well done and thank you .
This video is awesome. For a newbie in the VW TSI world, you made more sense explaining it than any other technician can explain it to me. You make understanding my Gen 3 GLI a lot more easier. Much appreciate the knowledge that you share.
Thank you
Maestro, soy de Argentina tengo un A4 viejo año 2010 .. tfsi
Anduve a 210km por hs . Y luego empezó a tirar humo y como gotas de agua por el escape , por tu experiencia q podría ser ?
Vídeo excelente! Eu mesmo estou colocando a mão no motor. Infelizmente no Brasil há poucos reparadores que dominam as particularidades desse motor. Após o trabalho que estou fazendo, seguindo o manual de reparo da VW e os vídeos de alta qualidade como os seus, penso fortemente em aprofundar no tema e me tornar um reparador. Isso claro, se após essa empreitada meu motor não explodir. Um salve do Brasil! Forte abraço!
Makes the MKIV and B5 belt procedure seem remedial. I am glad i bought a Bentley model for my wifes Q3. Great knowledge transfer sire.
Fantastic companion to the repair manual! ( you did mention using the repair manual, right?) 😉 thanks for walking us through this. With the motor in the car. This stuff is very hard to see!
Finally =D been waiting a long time for a goods video on this topic
Same here man.
Good video, I would have added the cam sprocket holding tool in the video as well when removing the crank bolt. Showing the step of reinstalling the crank pulley without risk of losing time on the bottom end.
literally all I came here for and he just says " its tricky" thanks...
If you ever made one about timing 1.9L and 2.0L TDIs it would be incredible. There's nothing on youtube that really explains stuff like you do for the hobby mechanic.
I haven’t. I’d like to get my hands on a TDI at some point
I've done this job so many times on 10 different vehicles and they're all running sound and smooth... takes me 4 hours tops, 2 hours in, 2 hours out. Always by spec and haynes manual and VW brand new bolts always.
Thank you so much for this video man. Quick question for you, what should we be replacing when we change the tensioners? I've spoken to several shops that have given me quotes from $800 to $2600 and some of them say that they need todo balance shafts, cam bridges, cam cradle, or something like that... plus several chains, guides, lower cover, etc... I don't understand why the price is so ridiculous and they want to change so much when really the only part that is prone to fail is the actual tensioner/chain. I would infinitely appreciate your input!
That's crazy bro , all this time marks , all this steps, all this chains , it's wonderful to know this things , thx for teaching , God bless you , thx again
OMG Charles. this looks like a nightmare! I love the Chevy small block and the simplicity of setting the timing chain... I love your videos and HS this look cumbersome to say the least! Thanks again for the amazing video and thank you again for the time taken to show us the procedger in this!
Thanks so much. IT actually looks harder than it really is. Once you do it, it makes sense
If you think this is hard, try Northstar V8s
Gm high feature 3.5 is also ridiculous, it's got 3 chains lol
lol, no cap I enjoy doing this job because it feels good to see a vehicle running good AFTER putting in my work and experience to use.
So much stuff jammed in there...
This is why I love the Mercedes OM617: to change the timing chain, all you have to remove is the valve cover, the thermostat housing, and chain tensioner spring and housing. Then cut a link out of the old chain, attach the end of the new one to the old, making sure the chain is constantly meshed with the cam sprocket while you carefully rotate the crankshaft and the new chain gets pulled through, then permanently connect the ends of the new chain.
Imagine, replacing a timing chain in less than 20 minutes. (With enough practice)
Freakin' VW dude. The idea of not having to mark shafts and whatnot but just time a chain by simply connecting the old with the new gave me a feeling I don't even know how to describe 😂
Thank you so much for explaining the dark links won’t match up again. Lots of people don’t get that lol.
Nice. Video just in time. I’m getting my cylinder head redone with new valves and valve seals so I will be rebuilding my top head. Along with everything brand new. Thank you for this video.
I have 1 last question. I’m putting my head together now. Does the metal gasket between the crank block and cylinder head take any of that black silicone? Or I just make sure everything is clean lay the gasket and torque the head down to 40Nm?
@@Ozzaphellah just the metal gasket
YOU SIR ARE AWESOME! I have to do this on my wife’s 14 A4 . This helped a lot
Damn, this makes the mk4 1.8t look like a breeze. I remember sweating making sure I had all the marks lines up.
The MK4 1.8T don't have anything on this, Even changing the timing chain tensioner and gasket is easier than working on this TSI engine. If I had a TSI engine I could definitely do this job.
This is Paul a mechanic from Africa Malawi it's nice keep on teaching us
those videos are so mind relaxing.. even when u haev no idea what the guy is doing,, just watching over and over again it slowly starts to sink in
From Zimbabwe , Africa thanks genius .
Thank you for the the advice for timing chain on a Volkswagen and makes my job a lot easier just I like working on cars
thank you so much for this video, i did my own timing chain and this helped alot
That separate gear for the crankshaft is easily one of the stupidest designs I’ve ever seen! Love the Video Charles!
I 100% agree!!!!
HumbleMechanic 👍😂😂
It isn't a 1:1 ratio so when you open it up it is very likely that the timing marks won't be lined up! You have to look very hard for the gear timing marks when it is in the car and then you have to rotate the gear to get them in time.
This helped me a lot, thanks so much. Had to replace my balance shafts and timing and had never even done timing before but made it happen.
Awesome.
Thanks man..I'm totally understand now..tomorrow I will be retiming r4 Porsche macan..it's 2.0 tsfi engine.
Fantastic tuition video. Assuming you follow this guide to the letter, you'll have no problems.
Awesome Tutorial and just finished my audi a3 sline with your humble vag knowledge..runs like new yahoo. May I ask what might be the best future motor swap for this 2012 audi a3 eventually in your opinion. Thanks and peace out
You have a good knowledge of mechanics. Thank you bro Thank you
Great video! Sure does make more sense than the 40 pages in the factory repair manual!
Super helpful. Thanks dude. About to tackle my stretched chain on my MK6 GTI. This, and the manual, will help.
This video is a DIAMOND IN THE ROUGH. My 2014 VW Jetta SE 1.8L (EA888) was 'diagnosed' with a failing tensioner and stretched timing chain! I need another one like this!!!!
Also, could you describe the housing and components for the ignition lock cylinder? There are so many ways to call it all!
Thank you. That ign lock is on my video list
@@HumbleMechanic Hey there! Back again! For a timing chain/tensioner project, what resource would you use to allow the most yet practical access to the engine? (Engine hoist? "Engine support bar"?) Is the 1.8L similar if not the same as the 2.0 timing?
Clarification: My main issue is maintaining the engine within the parameters of the engine compartment, since access is tight and parts to the mount are in the way. So I am trying to find a safe, yet workable solution, especially since there is one main part leading to the passenger-side mount that really is in the way. Thank you a bunch for taking your time to answer as I go through tons of timing-related (as well as auto-related) content!
I like that zip-tie tip....just one little thing worry about less. This diy is waiting for me this summer....
Great video! I had this pre-emptively done to my 2011 Mk6 GTI a couple years before the big class action (new chain, tensioner, guides, and cover) because having a stab of anxiety every time you crank your car up isn't a good way to live. I'm glad the Mk7's don't seem to have the same tensioner and chain issues.
Honestly it doesn't look like that bad of a job, though it's probably a much bigger pain in the ass to to do with the engine in the car, surrounded by accessories.
Getting the middle bolt out of the mounting bracket is probably the hardest bit. Just doing it on a Scirocco and there's not enough clearnace between engine and body for the bolt and a tool to remove it. Ended up removing the last bit one flat at a time, took ages. Not looking forward to putting it back in!
They still have timing chain needs. 2014 passat. timing is at 4.7%
thanks a lot bro, you helped me a lot. Service successfully completed, thanks again.
Someone left a giant screwdriver sticking out of the top of the motor.
LOL
he is using it to find the TDC from cyl 1 or 4 I guess. It's an old technique that not many know about ^_^
Great Instructions with people like you we dont need the dealership! Gratitude 🤙🏾
you are an excellent teacher... you should think about giving lessons for life!
You make look so simple, great instructions! I would feel confident doing it myself with this video
I feel the same way. Love his work.
feel the same way :D. can't wait to phuck up my engine and get that huge dealership bill
@@ArminVBThe1 you got this lol
Thanks for the informative and straightforward timing chain tutorial! Quite helpful for sorting out my A3! Thanks Charles 👍
By the way the kit with all the tools on Amazon for the 2014 vw Jetta is $58.00 and has all the necessary plus a few not needed as well for other makes Excellent
Thanks a lot for your very detailed, informative and priceless timing video. Its been so helpful. Cheers. Be so blessed.
I hope Lit is spending a lot for all there advertising on UA-cam! If not they should be! Video is just awesome.
I’ve seen their ads like 1,000 times. Ahahha and some moving company too
Thank you again, you made it possible for me to fix the car I purchased. You have detailed instructions. Thank you
Bravo . Very clear video images and transcription
Still interesting to watch your video even I have done this job more than 10, 15 times. Very clear explanation.
Thanks so much
I feel brave after watching this video👌👍😎...
You are an excellent teacher. I am waiting for "How to properly time and install Timing Chain on Touareg V6 245 SI Petrol CGEA engine."
What I learned from this channel is VW are annoying to work on and has a crap ton of special tools required lol. But great teachings and content.
Thanks for making this video. It helped me learn these engines while making a video on a Tiguan that I checked out and repaired a few weeks ago. Great content on this channel.
So glad they designed it for easy maintenance 🥺
To be fair they designed it so you'd never need to do any of this and the chain system should last the life of the engine. But they got it wrong.
Thanks for this video. It helped me get me audi back on the road.
Thank you I did it with ur help and shop@DAP got everything I needed for this job just right. Only fail oil squirting out of dip stick even with new cover. Did not replace the seal on tube though. 🤞that dose it.
You are the best buddy. Tanks, my wife learned in this video.
successfully timed my car! thanks you so much!!!
Thanks so much for this. Replacing a cylinder head soon. I have the workshop manual but this will help a ton!
PERFECT!
Excellent video, I am looking to do my Fiances timing chain on her VW Tiguan and this was extremely informative and helpful.
The Doctor Engine Mechanic thanks you sir
Great video, great for a normal timing chain replacement however if the engine isn't already timed up then this video doesn't help as much, other videos have showed there are timing marks on the cam pulleys so may require a revisit or caption adding to the video, keep up the good work.
Those who can!!! TEACH! imma join the rest of y'all in stating the obvious. I am subscribed and ready to take on my Scirocco which has just popped the chain.
Knowing my skill set and these new motors I would likely take this to my local VW shop. Kevin and his team are great and worth the money for this job. It seems harder to do this than the VR6 in my Jetta.
Here in DK all auth shops are incompetent, the just follow the guided service computer, and dont know how to measure/test anything
I'm totally agree with you soeren72. I think this kind of jobs are very delicates and must be done for a person with sources, skills, with enough care and taking measures and not only with a manual or machine. Excellent video!!
Installing the crankshaft pulley can mess up all the timing efort, it's a shame that is not coverd.
Thank you so very much for sharing your knowledge and experience with us Charles. I greatly appreciate you.
Thnx for the video dude.
It helpt me to do timing VW Beetle TSI 2012. !!!!
Watching from Namibia or learning from Namibia
Live how there r so many vids of EA888 timing chain and associated parts/components replacement with the engine on a bench or engine mount out of the vehicle, since that’s the most common way to do it. Otherwise, this vid is useful. I rec. to just buy an entire timing chain kit that comes with everything. Rent the VW tools from a mechanic tool rental place online. It is well well worth it. One might also consider buying a new crank gear and if not needed/used just return it. I found it’s best to mark everything and take pictures before removing any timing/related components. Use the crank lock tool too.
I love your video's. Big fan. Have to swap head gasket of a 2.0 hdi and im nervous as can be. Love your skills sir. Awesome.
He kept talking about the hole in the exhaust camshaft and Mines as solid as van be. I struggled to keep it from jumping a tooh when trying to put the tensioner slide in and the crank shaft wanted to skip too when I put in the other chain slider. I had to ziptie and get creative to keep everything on the teeth except the intake cam