As a matter of fact they should come on all floating bridges and and set light if it's a Floyd Rose tremendous. You can't even tell it's there's and it still returns to zero perfectly. Had them on all my guitars two that are non locking. One 6 post and one two post. I had to remove two of them because I put in Emg 57 tw humbucker pickups that had two be routed down and the screw from the Floyd Rose tremendous would have penetrated those pickups. That's truly where the tremmory shines. No screws or modifications at all! Great for vintage guitars collectors that would destroy the value of a guitar putting screws in it.
Extremely helpful video. So happy that you addressed d standard to drop c tuning as that is my issue that I hope to resolve. Great presentation and performance. Thanks so much Bryce!
was about to install the ESP arming unit into my BRAND NEW PIA.... thank you for posting this - saving me the time and having to drill 4 holes into a new Ibanez :) Great Job!
@@АлександрХромов-ю6и hey man, I understand that's probably frustrating, but I'm in no way affiliated with Tremmory, nor am I a lawyer. So you spamming my video with your patent paperwork is doing nothing to help you. If you want to provide a link for people to purchase from you, or you want me to review your product, I'd be happy to do that. But continuing to spam my comments is not a legitimate way forward here.
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Hell yeah, thank you for this video! Fellow metalhead from Portland here!🤘 Going to 12th fret to get Dk2m sw 2008 Japan all dialed in with the tremmory!
Sick playing dude! That has to be the prettiest Jackson I've seen! Thanks for the information, it was really helpful as I'm struggling with a 7 string ibanez bridge which is giving me some hard time.
ya , ola's ment to be entertaining , he just kinda runs through things real quick , and he plays really well , so by his recomendation alone that it works is almost enough,, this guy did a much better explaination , or demo , if you will,, i 'm gonna try it
Thanks for the vid. I also saw this thing on Ola's channel, but I wanted some idea how this thing worked before I jumped in to put it on my '89 HM. Sucks it kills the flutter for the quick LaRocque slap but that is the point like you said. Killer playing as well (diggin' the Ratt). All the best from the Bay Area. MK
This beats the hell out of those Amazon trem stoppers. If they weren’t so pricey I’d drop money on two of them right now. The only issue I have with them is the size requirement. I swapped the stock spring claws in both of my Jackson Kellys with the Schaller Sure Claws, and I’m not sure if even the small Tremmory will fit.
Yeah the size thing is definitely an issue! I’m using the ultra light duty FU Tone springs so I can get the claw in as far as possible. But the Sure Claw may not have enough clearance! I’d grab some light springs and double check
Yeah great video i was struggling to know how exactly it worked cuz i needed to know which stabilizer to get that would allow using a drop tuning device like tone vise or d tuna
Really informative. I already installed three of those little helpers in my standard strats. The only downside is the added stiffness, so dreamy warbles like Hendrix for example become tougher to acchieve. Maybe one could compensate for that by using lower tension springs? I wonder if that would work 🤔Anyways, it really does what it promises. Tomorrow I’m adding it to my only Floyd Guitar. They say it also makes using a D-Tuna on a floating Trem possible... Looking forward to it
@@tintecobrizo In all cases ‚small‘ has been the right size for me. On their website/manual there is a guide on how to choose the right size gor your instrument 👍
hey Mr Winter.....the '70s called......they want their guitar maestro back. just kidding, you rock. very informative vid on this. i was starting to hate my floyd rose equipped strat......gotta get me one of these. keep up the good work.
I am assuming this would work with a D-Tuna device??I have tried the Tremel-No,while it did work,as you said,it was a mess.....I still want my Floyd to float,but I want to be able to use the D-Tuna as well.....
Scott Peters yeah, it’s up there! It’s a really well built piece of hardware though, so I have no doubt that it’s money well spent. The ESP Arming Adjuster or Floyd Rose Tremendous Stabilizer will work just as well to that affect though. Just takes a bit more in terms of setup.
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Awesome video dude - answered all the questions I had that other videos failed to cover (particularly, How does it actually work?). Looking forward to checking out your band.
Heard Lay It down for the 1st time today, And thought Oh shit, that was that killer riff Mr Vanhoosen was playing on his Tremmory video haha. Epic track! Also got my Tremmory delivered yesterday.
how is yours working out? just got mine today and installed. i can see improvement, but strings still go slightly out of tune when switching between standard and drop d. i'm not using a floyd tho, just a floating gotoh. are you experiencing the same?
@@jd7613 first off, I’d try the heavier spring they include. My experience with drop tuning was pretty bad before I switched it to that. Secondly, you’ll still have to do ever so slight adjustments on the other strings to get it in tune with itself. I notice this with TOM bridges too - it’s like everything shifts because there’s suddenly less pull on the neck. But once you’re set and fully tuned, you’re good to go.
What are you playing through for a speaker / pedalboard setup? The sound is amazing. I like your guitar squeals a LOT! and your bends on the high strings sound great!!! Rock n roll!
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I have the Tremmory in 3 guitars and the Mag-Lok in two others. I'd say the Tremmory is superior but if you want to save a few bucks and don't mind a few holes in your trem cavity then the Mag-Lok works great too.
@@bvanhoosen Go for it, they're pretty cool. I kind of like how the magnet pulls the bridge back into place. If you get the positioning just right you can drop the E string, do full step bends without the other strings going flat; granted I'm using 9-46 in standard and 10-52 on half step. I don't really play D tuning except for Crüe songs but I do 11-49 on that guitar but no Drop C for me. Maybe I should look into a drop C string set but I only use Elixir so.. 🤷
Hmmm, I’m not sure! At that point I’d recommend using one of those Digitech Drop pedals. You could do drop D, then use the pedal to go down a whole step.
wait hold on.. so with only just the stabilizer and a couple of extra springs, i can dive bomb and bend with my frethand without the other strings go out of tune? cus this has been a major problem for with floyd rose. someone please tell me i'm right cus im a enjoy the occasional divebombs and bending my strings (which i always do).
I think yes? Bends will be easier since you won’t be fighting the bridge going lower while bending. You can also just block the bridge and make it dive only, then tighten the springs so the bridge doesn’t move when you bend.
How does it work in the case of breaking a string? Does everything else stay in tune? And how do you do drop tunings live? Do you just break the nut loose and re-tune the low E really quick?
Andrew van Leeuwen I haven’t tried it, but I think it’ll still go a few cents out of tune depending on which string you break - I think you could finish a song without the audience noticing though. And to drop tune, same idea as the D-Tuna - I just screw the low E fine tuner in almost all the way, tune to E, and lock the nut. I can then back the fine tuner out a full step as needed.
my floyd tends to pull the strings sharp when i use it, would this help with that? i'e does the tremmory just stop the bridge from pulling out of zero both ways or just in the way that would make it go flat?
Couldn’t have posted this at a better time my friend... I have been obsessing over these ‘tremsetters’ for the past couple weeks. I dont use a Floyd too often because I can’t stand when everything goes out of tune while heavy bending and especially unison bends... has this fixed this issue for you? I often wonder how professionals got past that issue in the past, because compensating by pushing the bridge down while bending just doesn’t seem very effective. Like another commenter mentioned, is this only an issue with cheaper/licensed Floyd’s? Or do higher end Floyds have this issue as well?
A B Cars N’ Guitars the higher end ones do as well. I only use German Floyds, and while I don’t generally have tuning issues after using the bar, you’re absolutely right that you’re fighting against the bar going down while raising the pitch of the string. A lot of the guys that popularized Floyd Rose guitars in the 80s had dive only setups (George Lynch, Warren Di Martini, even Eddie Van Halen). You can set those up to not move when you bend, but the only way to do that with a full floating Floyd is with a stabilizer.
Bryce VanHoosen awesome answer my friend, thank you very much for the reply. I actually made the Floyd on my Kelly drop only and I actually really like, but it can be a bit of a hinderance. My only other question is does the stabilizer make a large noticeable difference in the bars response? Like are you cranking on the bar now to get it to move, along with it snapping back into place when you release it? Or is it still pretty smooth?
Bryce VanHoosen do you think it’s something you will get used to? Do you plan to keep it? And ‘tuning issues’ gone? Sorry for all the questions man, these things aren’t cheap and I’m right on the fence as far as buying one. I appreciate your replies!
A B Cars N’ Guitars yeah I definitely plan to keep it! No tuning issues or any issues really. 3 months later and I haven’t had to adjust it at all hahaha
Do you think that the Tremmory when activated creates an effect similar to that of the Evertune bridge in terms of tightening the sound a bit preventing you from going sharp when it stabilizes the micro detunes and in this way by activating or deactivating the Tremmory you can have different sounds for different needs?
Hipshot trem setter or Tremmory? I have been using hipshot for a little over 20 yrs. Looking to experiment with different trem stabilizers. I came here and I liked what I saw and heard. You thought?
so when you tuned your D down to C you didnt have to adjust anything else? you just opened the locking nut, tuned down to C, closed the locking nut and thats that? also, does flutter still work with a stabilizer in? (oh sorry you said that at the end i was commenting too quickly)
Even easier than that! I just use the fine tuner to go from D to C. I turn it like 90% of the way in with the nut open, tune to D, then lock it. From there, I can back the fine tuner out until I’m at C or tighten it again to go back to D. Super easy to do during a show!
Hello, I just got my tremmory I was wondering what pressure spring you use? It comes with another spring that says its for harder use, do you use that one or the regular one?
Great review. Yeah I was kinda confused, because even for the smallest Termmory im missing like 10mm from claw to trem-block. Ill probably just get the small-version and some lighter springs. One question: is the Tremmory itself providing spring tension, so you replace one spring, or do you add the tremmory to the current spring setup - tension wise?
New Subscriber here... cool V man... definitely want these on my FRs and wondering if it'll work with the Vega Trem I'm putting into a Strat mod I'm doing? Thanks for the video! 😎🤘🎸
I was in doubt about the measure. The distance from the grip to the block measures 83mm. Does size S reach this measurement? I was afraid to buy the larger size and in the future I would need to reduce the distance from the block to the claw and lose the unit.
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@@bvanhoosen I guess I have to screw the claw plate in further back to create atleast a 71-mm distance. Then, remove 1 spring? I thought Tremmory doesn't add tension with the current springs?
@@sebasguitar132 yeah I’ve done that. Gets expensive though. Now I just use Dunlop heavy core 10-48 for D standard/Drop C. Low string gets a little floppy, but it doesn’t sound bad.
@@bvanhoosen have you seen stringjoy? They make custom packs maybe it is cheaper that way. The company seem to try to create custom sets for drop or any tuning
This is so cool! Q: So u can drop tune the Low E without having to take out a screwdriver and adjust the springs in back , and block the bridge to drop it? Just open the nut and drop it just like that?
I know this won't answer your question, but I think you can simply block the bridge and down tune the E string without having to adjust the spring tension afterwards. It shouldn't make that much of a difference
thanx for the review. very thorough. 1 question though. i couldn’t tell if you had to actually screw anything in to the cavity. do you just install it like a regular trem spring or do you have to put screws into your guitar ? thanx. awesome playing btw.
Thanks for getting back to me, I ended up going with the ESP arming adjuster, just because I couldn’t bring myself to order one of these all the way from Germany
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This is a fkn headache. I just use 2 floyd rose guitars.... 1 in E standard and the other in Drop D along with a Digitech Drop pedal that allows me to change tunings on the fly digitally with 1 stomp. I can whammy all day and the pitch pretty much stays in perfect tune, no problems.
Your bridge certainly would be more stable. But at that point, I wonder if going the down only route or getting a fixed bridge guitar would be more what you’re looking for?
Does that mean that it would help in a way that you could unscrew the top lock on the neck low end. I kinda am stuck in a lower tuning so bending the strings further might be easier without the top lock?
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Is it possible to disable the tremory temporary just to have the original feeling of a trem (if you want to flutter) and enable it when you need to drop tune for example ?
@@bvanhoosen so when it is disabled, the tremory works as a normal spring ? For example if I have 3 springs in my guitar, do I have to remove one spring to install the tremory or I only have to install the tremory in addition to my 3 springs ?
Angelo Neri I’m not sure I understand your question. It makes string changes easier. But you should still change 1 string at a time and use the same gauge and tuning, otherwise you’ll have to readjust.
@@bvanhoosen yes, I mean.. While I tune a string after changing it in a guitar with floyd the other strings go sharp or flat.. Does this system prevent that or not?
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D Tuna would definitely work! If you have space enough for it to not hit the body, you’re good to go. For me, I just screw the E string fine tuner almost all the way in, tune to E, lock, then back it out when I need to go to D. Works perfectly!
How much does it affect flutter? I’ve tried a few of these types of devices in the past and they always kill the flutter which really puts me off using them
John Anderson thanks man! I think that would be too much change in tension. If you’re doing that live, then I 100% suggest using 2 guitars instead of re-tuning on stage
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Yooo dude, i've been meaning to ask. I know you're a Floyd guy all around, but have you heard of the Sophia trems? If so, what do you think of them? I've thought about buying a Jackson JS Series King V as a mod project and having a luthier swap out the stock bridge for a Sophia 292 trem and seeing what results i get.
@@bvanhoosen definitely dude! I might just say screw it and get an X series warrior instead bc those things look cool af. Lol It'll definitely take a while to get everything i need bc i don't make that much money and everything is going up in price, but i'm adament on making it happen because these trems are so cool. Sophia have a UA-cam channel too demonstrating how the trems work if you're wanting to check those out too! I can try to link you one of them as well!
If you’re changing the whole tuning of the guitar, you’re going to want to re-intonate anyway. I’d do this on a TOM too - that’s such a big change that there’s no way your guitar will sound intonated. You could maybe do it on the fly with a Tremmory, but idk, I’d still just use another guitar.
@@bvanhoosen Wow. Thanks for fast reply. Also, I have a Jackson Soloist. Which spring out of the three in the cavity do I replace with the Tremmory? Likely middle one, yes? Also which size Tremmory do I get?
I have both. But my tremmory comes from a guy in Russia who sent my pics of the patent on this. His uses a slotted screw and I got two for like $92. That being said it's identical to this one. The Floyd had to be screwed in. The tremmory needs no mods etc. The Floyd rose tremendous is adjustable the tremmory is not. My two tremmory's are hard and I have two soft on the way. As far as keeping my guitars in tune...... They are equal good. Right now I have the Floyd tremendous set extremely soft. With two springs on a 6 post bridge with locking tuners. I can do trills with the bridge, it prevents my palm from pushing down and making the guitar go sharp and even though it's set to be soft.... It still returns the bridge back to zero. I will also add. When I had the Floyd tremendous set hard I could remove the strings, clean neck and frets then put on new strings without blocking the bridge and it literally returned to zero. The Floyd does have some extra pluses.
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I’d straighten all 3 and add the Tremmory. Just make sure you got as much range of motion as you want and can go up and down as much as you can without it.
Hey bro im seeing there is different sizes for these. What size do you suggest I get? I have a Jackson Rhoads with factory springs. I just want to be able to drop my sixth string as well haha.
@@bvanhoosen Just saw. Im also having a problem finding these. And there all really expensive. Do you think the tremolo black box would help me do what Im trying to do?
Unfortunately not, you cannot flutter with any trem stabilizer since they all introduce a 'zero' point. But, if you undo the little set screw, you can still flutter - you just wont be stabilized anymore.
Stabilizers should come stock on any floyd rose. Great video man! 🤘
Agreed! Thank you 🙏
Especially when they themselves make one.
As a matter of fact they should come on all floating bridges and and set light if it's a Floyd Rose tremendous. You can't even tell it's there's and it still returns to zero perfectly. Had them on all my guitars two that are non locking. One 6 post and one two post. I had to remove two of them because I put in Emg 57 tw humbucker pickups that had two be routed down and the screw from the Floyd Rose tremendous would have penetrated those pickups. That's truly where the tremmory shines. No screws or modifications at all! Great for vintage guitars collectors that would destroy the value of a guitar putting screws in it.
@@billzaferatos2256 how far can one easily downtune without having to readjust the Floyd Rose? And does it still allow slight pull up ability?
This answered everything I wanted to know about the tremmory
Hell yeah! I hope this helped and thanks for watching!
@@bvanhoosen it actually did a lot and I found out how to set my floating tream to a lower tuning. Thanks a lot!
This is really cool!! Especially since you can drop the top string without needing to make adjustments!
Yeah man! That's exactly why I use it too, hahaha
This guy absolutely can shred.
Thank you!
Most excellent presentation. Tremmory should put you in a guitar mag ad with their product.
Extremely helpful video. So happy that you addressed d standard to drop c tuning as that is my issue that I hope to resolve. Great presentation and performance. Thanks so much Bryce!
Hell yeah, enjoy! Thanks for watching
was about to install the ESP arming unit into my BRAND NEW PIA.... thank you for posting this - saving me the time and having to drill 4 holes into a new Ibanez :) Great Job!
Glad to help! Definitely a better option than drilling holes hahaha
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Hell yeah, thank you for this video!
Fellow metalhead from Portland here!🤘
Going to 12th fret to get Dk2m sw 2008 Japan all dialed in with the tremmory!
May have to try one on one of my Floyds.
That V sounds vicious brother 🤘🏽
Thanks so much man! Definitely a solid, no BS stabilizer if that's what you need!
Sick playing dude! That has to be the prettiest Jackson I've seen! Thanks for the information, it was really helpful as I'm struggling with a 7 string ibanez bridge which is giving me some hard time.
Great video man. The Ola one was just so broad and didn’t specify anything. You did a good job breaking it down
ya , ola's ment to be entertaining , he just kinda runs through things real quick , and he plays really well , so by his recomendation alone that it works is almost enough,, this guy did a much better explaination , or demo , if you will,, i 'm gonna try it
Great video! Very helpful and nice playing too!
Lay it Down...great choice man !!🤘🏼
Such a great song!
Extremely helpful, thanks so much Bryce! I just ordered a 71 mm tremmory for my G and L Rampage
A rampage? Its a floyd rose equiped g&l rampage? I knew that those come equiped with kahler tremolos
Thanks for this awesome review! Contacted Alex and I just got the tremmory in! Time to figure out how to install!
$87 shipped. Thanks Alex!
Very cool!! Hope you enjoy it 😁
I gotta get one of these things man. Thank you bro and I love your machine heads in there they’re so smooth looking.
Thank you!
Excellent video, answered all my questions and i will now be ordering one today. Thank you
Lightning Speed!
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Thanks so much dude!
Thanks for the vid. I also saw this thing on Ola's channel, but I wanted some idea how this thing worked before I jumped in to put it on my '89 HM. Sucks it kills the flutter for the quick LaRocque slap but that is the point like you said. Killer playing as well (diggin' the Ratt).
All the best from the Bay Area.
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Thanks! Very informative. I think this is what I’ve been looking for.
Awesome video! Man am I glad I found this! Looks like someone finally got it right!!!
This beats the hell out of those Amazon trem stoppers. If they weren’t so pricey I’d drop money on two of them right now. The only issue I have with them is the size requirement. I swapped the stock spring claws in both of my Jackson Kellys with the Schaller Sure Claws, and I’m not sure if even the small Tremmory will fit.
Yeah the size thing is definitely an issue! I’m using the ultra light duty FU Tone springs so I can get the claw in as far as possible. But the Sure Claw may not have enough clearance! I’d grab some light springs and double check
Yeah great video i was struggling to know how exactly it worked cuz i needed to know which stabilizer to get that would allow using a drop tuning device like tone vise or d tuna
Really informative. I already installed three of those little helpers in my standard strats. The only downside is the added stiffness, so dreamy warbles like Hendrix for example become tougher to acchieve. Maybe one could compensate for that by using lower tension springs? I wonder if that would work 🤔Anyways, it really does what it promises. Tomorrow I’m adding it to my only Floyd Guitar. They say it also makes using a D-Tuna on a floating Trem possible... Looking forward to it
does it feel stiffer to play? i'e bending and non tremelo kinda stuff, or does it just affect the trem?
@@SimonsBand1 It just affects the Trem as far as I‘m feeling it.
@@christopher.k.guitar what measure/size did you go for? i have a squier VM 70s strat and want to get the tremmory
@@tintecobrizo In all cases ‚small‘ has been the right size for me. On their website/manual there is a guide on how to choose the right size gor your instrument 👍
I'm sold on this product, it should be here by the end of the week.
hey Mr Winter.....the '70s called......they want their guitar maestro back. just kidding, you rock. very informative vid on this. i was starting to hate my floyd rose equipped strat......gotta get me one of these. keep up the good work.
Daaayuum, that sucka works great! I may have to snag one because I'm a fanatical Floyd Flailer.
Yeah check it out! Even after all these years, I still use this thing!
Nice, I have to get one of these. Great video, thanks!
I am assuming this would work with a D-Tuna device??I have tried the Tremel-No,while it did work,as you said,it was a mess.....I still want my Floyd to float,but I want to be able to use the D-Tuna as well.....
Yeah, that's exactly why I use this! I can dive, pull up, and drop the low E a full step without having to retune the entire guitar.
Bryce VanHoosen I like it....but that price tag...damn!!
Scott Peters yeah, it’s up there! It’s a really well built piece of hardware though, so I have no doubt that it’s money well spent. The ESP Arming Adjuster or Floyd Rose Tremendous Stabilizer will work just as well to that affect though. Just takes a bit more in terms of setup.
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Thanks so much man ! Really helpfull and, I'd say, reassuring. Cheers !
Awesome video dude - answered all the questions I had that other videos failed to cover (particularly, How does it actually work?). Looking forward to checking out your band.
Glad it helped!
Great video! I wish it was clearer what size to get considering the price and having to import from Germany.
Yeah they don’t really explain! Luckily if you have a Dremel it’s pretty easy to cut down.
that guitar sounds fucking sick in drop c dude
Heard Lay It down for the 1st time today, And thought Oh shit, that was that killer riff Mr Vanhoosen was playing on his Tremmory video haha.
Epic track!
Also got my Tremmory delivered yesterday.
how is yours working out? just got mine today and installed. i can see improvement, but strings still go slightly out of tune when switching between standard and drop d. i'm not using a floyd tho, just a floating gotoh. are you experiencing the same?
Haha Ratt rules! And that’s great man, glad it finally showed up!
@@jd7613 first off, I’d try the heavier spring they include. My experience with drop tuning was pretty bad before I switched it to that. Secondly, you’ll still have to do ever so slight adjustments on the other strings to get it in tune with itself. I notice this with TOM bridges too - it’s like everything shifts because there’s suddenly less pull on the neck. But once you’re set and fully tuned, you’re good to go.
@@bvanhoosen thanks! still got a lot of tinkering to do, it is only a few hours old!
What are you playing through for a speaker / pedalboard setup? The sound is amazing. I like your guitar squeals a LOT! and your bends on the high strings sound great!!! Rock n roll!
Thank you! I actually can’t remember lol probably a Kemper?
Very very helpful
Thanks for watching!
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I have the Tremmory in 3 guitars and the Mag-Lok in two others. I'd say the Tremmory is superior but if you want to save a few bucks and don't mind a few holes in your trem cavity then the Mag-Lok works great too.
Ah interesting! I’m a huge fan of Super Vee so I was definitely curious about that one! I should get one to compare
@@bvanhoosen Go for it, they're pretty cool. I kind of like how the magnet pulls the bridge back into place. If you get the positioning just right you can drop the E string, do full step bends without the other strings going flat; granted I'm using 9-46 in standard and 10-52 on half step. I don't really play D tuning except for Crüe songs but I do 11-49 on that guitar but no Drop C for me. Maybe I should look into a drop C string set but I only use Elixir so.. 🤷
Oh man that is one bad ass Jackson!
Any idea if you could go two steps down. I would love a floyd, but need to go E, drop D and drop C with my guitars.
Hmmm, I’m not sure! At that point I’d recommend using one of those Digitech Drop pedals. You could do drop D, then use the pedal to go down a whole step.
Very good demo
Thanks. Lot of Qs answered.
wait hold on.. so with only just the stabilizer and a couple of extra springs, i can dive bomb and bend with my frethand without the other strings go out of tune?
cus this has been a major problem for with floyd rose. someone please tell me i'm right cus im a enjoy the occasional divebombs and bending my strings (which i always do).
I think yes? Bends will be easier since you won’t be fighting the bridge going lower while bending. You can also just block the bridge and make it dive only, then tighten the springs so the bridge doesn’t move when you bend.
Is it replacing a spring or do you just add the tremmory ? I see conflicting informations out there about that, thanks for the great video
You just add the Tremmory to the existing springs. It does not assert any additional pull on its own.
its kind of crazy that FR hasn't figured out a built in stabilizer and or a drop tuner yet....
True! But plenty of aftermarket solutions, which they seem to encourage!
How does it work in the case of breaking a string? Does everything else stay in tune? And how do you do drop tunings live? Do you just break the nut loose and re-tune the low E really quick?
Andrew van Leeuwen I haven’t tried it, but I think it’ll still go a few cents out of tune depending on which string you break - I think you could finish a song without the audience noticing though. And to drop tune, same idea as the D-Tuna - I just screw the low E fine tuner in almost all the way, tune to E, and lock the nut. I can then back the fine tuner out a full step as needed.
Do you feel the detent in the zero position?
my floyd tends to pull the strings sharp when i use it, would this help with that? i'e does the tremmory just stop the bridge from pulling out of zero both ways or just in the way that would make it go flat?
Couldn’t have posted this at a better time my friend... I have been obsessing over these ‘tremsetters’ for the past couple weeks.
I dont use a Floyd too often because I can’t stand when everything goes out of tune while heavy bending and especially unison bends... has this fixed this issue for you? I often wonder how professionals got past that issue in the past, because compensating by pushing the bridge down while bending just doesn’t seem very effective.
Like another commenter mentioned, is this only an issue with cheaper/licensed Floyd’s? Or do higher end Floyds have this issue as well?
A B Cars N’ Guitars the higher end ones do as well. I only use German Floyds, and while I don’t generally have tuning issues after using the bar, you’re absolutely right that you’re fighting against the bar going down while raising the pitch of the string. A lot of the guys that popularized Floyd Rose guitars in the 80s had dive only setups (George Lynch, Warren Di Martini, even Eddie Van Halen). You can set those up to not move when you bend, but the only way to do that with a full floating Floyd is with a stabilizer.
Bryce VanHoosen awesome answer my friend, thank you very much for the reply. I actually made the Floyd on my Kelly drop only and I actually really like, but it can be a bit of a hinderance. My only other question is does the stabilizer make a large noticeable difference in the bars response? Like are you cranking on the bar now to get it to move, along with it snapping back into place when you release it? Or is it still pretty smooth?
A B Cars N’ Guitars it’s still pretty smooth, but it is a bit more stiff - I have to move it with intention now.
Bryce VanHoosen do you think it’s something you will get used to? Do you plan to keep it? And ‘tuning issues’ gone? Sorry for all the questions man, these things aren’t cheap and I’m right on the fence as far as buying one. I appreciate your replies!
A B Cars N’ Guitars yeah I definitely plan to keep it! No tuning issues or any issues really. 3 months later and I haven’t had to adjust it at all hahaha
What song is he playing at 7:57 ?
RATT - Lay It Down!
Do you think that the Tremmory when activated creates an effect similar to that of the Evertune bridge in terms of tightening the sound a bit preventing you from going sharp when it stabilizes the micro detunes and in this way by activating or deactivating the Tremmory you can have different sounds for different needs?
Hipshot trem setter or Tremmory? I have been using hipshot for a little over 20 yrs. Looking to experiment with different trem stabilizers. I came here and I liked what I saw and heard. You thought?
Haven’t used the Hipshot, but definitely an advantage of the Tremmory is you don’t have to drill anything or add a new screw hole.
so when you tuned your D down to C you didnt have to adjust anything else? you just opened the locking nut, tuned down to C, closed the locking nut and thats that? also, does flutter still work with a stabilizer in? (oh sorry you said that at the end i was commenting too quickly)
Even easier than that! I just use the fine tuner to go from D to C. I turn it like 90% of the way in with the nut open, tune to D, then lock it. From there, I can back the fine tuner out until I’m at C or tighten it again to go back to D. Super easy to do during a show!
Hello, I just got my tremmory I was wondering what pressure spring you use? It comes with another spring that says its for harder use, do you use that one or the regular one?
Nvm I just re-watched and saw you are using the higher tension spring, thanks for the video!
Great review.
Yeah I was kinda confused, because even for the smallest Termmory im missing like 10mm from claw to trem-block. Ill probably just get the small-version and some lighter springs.
One question: is the Tremmory itself providing spring tension, so you replace one spring, or do you add the tremmory to the current spring setup - tension wise?
Thanks for watching! No, the Tremmory doesn’t add any spring tension, so you’ll want to use it with your current spring setup
Great video brother. Hey can you use a dtuna on this. Drop d.
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Does that device work on synchronized tremolos? Or is it exclusive to Floyd Rose?
You had a string break yet? I did and it did not fare well!
Haha! Yeah, depending on which one you break, your guitar could go quite out of tune.
New Subscriber here... cool V man... definitely want these on my FRs and wondering if it'll work with the Vega Trem I'm putting into a Strat mod I'm doing? Thanks for the video! 😎🤘🎸
Hey there, welcome! I’m not familiar with that trem, but if it uses the block/spring/claw setup it will totally work!
@@bvanhoosen Yeah.. or should work!
I was in doubt about the measure. The distance from the grip to the block measures 83mm. Does size S reach this measurement? I was afraid to buy the larger size and in the future I would need to reduce the distance from the block to the claw and lose the unit.
I think small would work? But I'd ask the company. If you get large you can always cut it down (like I did)
Do you have a link to the maker? I have to get one for my schaller trem on my charvel preditor and or for my Ibanez RG.
Hoosier Daddy yeah man! Check the description for a link!
@@bvanhoosen Thanks brother. Sorry I didn't look the first time..
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Tremori, this invention belongs to a Russian from Russia - Alexander Khromov. View descriptions here patents.google.com/patent/RU2407067C1/en
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Great video bro! If you don’t mind, what pickups are in the Jackson?
Thanks man! This is the 57/66 set!
Hi.. just wondering.. How about using Tremmory in a 4-spring guitar with a claw-to-block length less than that of the smallest Tremmory available?
Unfortunately it won’t work. You need at least around 71mm for the pin thing to slide into the piston. I’d try using less springs or lighter springs.
@@bvanhoosen I guess I have to screw the claw plate in further back to create atleast a 71-mm distance. Then, remove 1 spring? I thought Tremmory doesn't add tension with the current springs?
@@bonznacario1185 it doesn’t add tension, but you’ll have to make sure you have enough room for the unit to fit
What about while changing strings? Does this reduce string change tuning time, etc?
Yes, it absolutely does!
Very nice ! does you ear a clicking zero point sound when you do a up/down trem vib ?
Yeah you can hear it a bit. It’s not something that gets amplified though (unlike with other trem setters)
Awesome information man, for changing between drop a standard did you try the tone vast pitch shifter or the EVH D Tuna?
I’ve tried the D Tuna, but I prefer just turning the fine tuner all the way in, tuning to standard, and backing it out when I want to drop it down!
@@bvanhoosen nice solution, and for the strings do you buy to packages each time?
I want to apply the configuration 9-46 replacing the 46 for a 52
@@sebasguitar132 yeah I’ve done that. Gets expensive though. Now I just use Dunlop heavy core 10-48 for D standard/Drop C. Low string gets a little floppy, but it doesn’t sound bad.
@@bvanhoosen have you seen stringjoy? They make custom packs maybe it is cheaper that way. The company seem to try to create custom sets for drop or any tuning
@@sebasguitar132 I have. They seem kind of jenky tbh
This is so cool! Q: So u can drop tune the Low E without having to take out a screwdriver and adjust the springs in back , and block the bridge to drop it? Just open the nut and drop it just like that?
I know this won't answer your question, but I think you can simply block the bridge and down tune the E string without having to adjust the spring tension afterwards. It shouldn't make that much of a difference
Yes! I just turn the fine tuner all the way in, tune to E, lock it, then back it out to D when I want to do drop tune stuff
thanx for the review. very thorough. 1 question though. i couldn’t tell if you had to actually screw anything in to the cavity. do you just install it like a regular trem spring or do you have to put screws into your guitar ? thanx. awesome playing btw.
Nope, no screwing or alterations required whatsoever! It installs just like a regular spring.
Thanks for getting back to me, I ended up going with the ESP arming adjuster, just because I couldn’t bring myself to order one of these all the way from Germany
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I am Alexander KHROMOV
patents.google.com/patent/RU2407067C1/ru
Tremori, this invention belongs to a Russian from Russia - Alexander Khromov. View descriptions here patents.google.com/patent/RU2407067C1/en
my mail chromae@mail.ru
$108 USD. That'll save some people the time.
Floyd Rose manufacture must consider this as an add on.
Would definitely be cool if they distributed it!
Where do you get it? I can't find it anywhere.. Guitar Center, Reverb, Sweetwater???
CalitranoN link in description!
Thomann sells em too
If you do big bends on one string does it make all the strings go out of tune until you dive the bar like other floating trems? Great review.
Thank you! No, the guitar stays in tune even after big bends (because the bridge doesn't really move).
Very clear and helpful, thank you! Can you still do flutters with the tremmory unlocked?
Ali with it unlocked, yeah!
That's great! I might get one then. :)
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Tremori, this invention belongs to a Russian from Russia - Alexander Khromov. View descriptions here patents.google.com/patent/RU2407067C1/en
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This is a fkn headache. I just use 2 floyd rose guitars.... 1 in E standard and the other in Drop D along with a Digitech Drop pedal that allows me to change tunings on the fly digitally with 1 stomp. I can whammy all day and the pitch pretty much stays in perfect tune, no problems.
I’ve done the guitar changing mid set. This is way easier. But do what thou wilt
@@bvanhoosen
Oki doki Crowley. lol
So what happens if you put two of these on the same guitar? Would it allow more tuning changes?
Your bridge certainly would be more stable. But at that point, I wonder if going the down only route or getting a fixed bridge guitar would be more what you’re looking for?
wait what tunings can it do again?
So does this allow you to easily go from drop to standard?
Yes! And vice-versa
Does that mean that it would help in a way that you could unscrew the top lock on the neck low end. I kinda am stuck in a lower tuning so bending the strings further might be easier without the top lock?
You should always lock your nut completely for best performance. A stabilizer doesn't change that.
@@bvanhoosen ok
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I am Alexander KHROMOV
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Tremori, this invention belongs to a Russian from Russia - Alexander Khromov. View descriptions here patents.google.com/patent/RU2407067C1/en
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Is it possible to disable the tremory temporary just to have the original feeling of a trem (if you want to flutter) and enable it when you need to drop tune for example ?
Yeah totally! That’s what the set screw thing does. You can enable or disable it.
@@bvanhoosen so when it is disabled, the tremory works as a normal spring ? For example if I have 3 springs in my guitar, do I have to remove one spring to install the tremory or I only have to install the tremory in addition to my 3 springs ?
@@vincentklein4886 it has the tension of like half a spring. I’d say in general you should add it to 3 springs if that’s what you’re using now.
@@bvanhoosen ok thank you very much 😉
Does it stabilize the tuning of a single strings when you have to tune everything after changing them in a guitar with floyd?
Angelo Neri I’m not sure I understand your question. It makes string changes easier. But you should still change 1 string at a time and use the same gauge and tuning, otherwise you’ll have to readjust.
@@bvanhoosen yes, I mean.. While I tune a string after changing it in a guitar with floyd the other strings go sharp or flat.. Does this system prevent that or not?
Angelo Neri ah I see - yeah, this prevents that from happening
@@bvanhoosen thanks :)
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I am Alexander KHROMOV
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Tremori, this invention belongs to a Russian from Russia - Alexander Khromov. View descriptions here patents.google.com/patent/RU2407067C1/en
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Anyone try to use this with an evh dtuna? Got an esp coming with a dtuna and was thinking of picking one of these up as well.
D Tuna would definitely work! If you have space enough for it to not hit the body, you’re good to go. For me, I just screw the E string fine tuner almost all the way in, tune to E, lock, then back it out when I need to go to D. Works perfectly!
How much does it affect flutter? I’ve tried a few of these types of devices in the past and they always kill the flutter which really puts me off using them
Yeah, it kills flutter. If you're looking for flutter, then steer clear of any tremolo stabilizer. They're literally the opposite of flutter.
Can you drop all 6 strings half a step down or would that cause issues?
Great video!
John Anderson thanks man! I think that would be too much change in tension. If you’re doing that live, then I 100% suggest using 2 guitars instead of re-tuning on stage
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Tremori, this invention belongs to a Russian from Russia - Alexander Khromov. View descriptions here patents.google.com/patent/RU2407067C1/en
my mail chromae@mail.ru
Александр Хромов
I am Alexander KHROMOV
patents.google.com/patent/RU2407067C1/ru
Tremori, this invention belongs to a Russian from Russia - Alexander Khromov. View descriptions here patents.google.com/patent/RU2407067C1/en
my mail chromae@mail.ru
Yooo dude, i've been meaning to ask. I know you're a Floyd guy all around, but have you heard of the Sophia trems? If so, what do you think of them? I've thought about buying a Jackson JS Series King V as a mod project and having a luthier swap out the stock bridge for a Sophia 292 trem and seeing what results i get.
I have not heard of those! Let me know how it works out!
@@bvanhoosen definitely dude! I might just say screw it and get an X series warrior instead bc those things look cool af. Lol
It'll definitely take a while to get everything i need bc i don't make that much money and everything is going up in price, but i'm adament on making it happen because these trems are so cool. Sophia have a UA-cam channel too demonstrating how the trems work if you're wanting to check those out too! I can try to link you one of them as well!
ua-cam.com/video/yS35s8oiXfg/v-deo.html
Can you do whammy flutters with the tremmory???
No, you cannot do flutters with any tremolo stabilizer, the Tremmory included
@@bvanhoosen I thought the same thing but this guy shows that you can with a Tremel-no at 4:03 ua-cam.com/video/XV5c1q2Wkz4/v-deo.html
Uses term "crappy dive bars"
Bookings drop 30%. :D
Best Regards and Best Wishes for 2023!
🤣🤣🤣 Those are my favorite places to play though
Can you do half step down tuning without having to set intonation etc?
If you’re changing the whole tuning of the guitar, you’re going to want to re-intonate anyway. I’d do this on a TOM too - that’s such a big change that there’s no way your guitar will sound intonated. You could maybe do it on the fly with a Tremmory, but idk, I’d still just use another guitar.
@@bvanhoosen Wow. Thanks for fast reply. Also, I have a Jackson Soloist. Which spring out of the three in the cavity do I replace with the Tremmory? Likely middle one, yes? Also which size Tremmory do I get?
@@bvanhoosen Love me some Jacksons too! I have a 90's USA Soloist and newer Pro series. Nothing plays like those flat radius ebony boards!
Can this be installed other than in place of the middle spring?
Hmm, that’s a good question! I haven’t actually tried that
Yes
Hi, what happened to the Russian version of this thing you mentioned before?
Trademark issue ☹️ Working on a new video of it now!
@@bvanhoosen I asked because I just ordered one from AEX. Thanks and great videos!
Wich one do you prefer? the Trem-endus or Tremmory?
I have both. But my tremmory comes from a guy in Russia who sent my pics of the patent on this. His uses a slotted screw and I got two for like $92. That being said it's identical to this one. The Floyd had to be screwed in. The tremmory needs no mods etc. The Floyd rose tremendous is adjustable the tremmory is not. My two tremmory's are hard and I have two soft on the way. As far as keeping my guitars in tune...... They are equal good. Right now I have the Floyd tremendous set extremely soft. With two springs on a 6 post bridge with locking tuners. I can do trills with the bridge, it prevents my palm from pushing down and making the guitar go sharp and even though it's set to be soft.... It still returns the bridge back to zero. I will also add. When I had the Floyd tremendous set hard I could remove the strings, clean neck and frets then put on new strings without blocking the bridge and it literally returned to zero. The Floyd does have some extra pluses.
You can do flutters whit the tremmory instaled?
Agustín Ignacio Martinez you cannot do flutters with any tremolo stabilizer. If you want flutter, I would avoid all tremolo stabilizers.
Really interested on getting one, but the website is a little hard to navigate. Curious to know if you had to pay in euros.
Yeah, the website is a bit difficult. I paid via PayPal, so I have no idea. I think it gets converted automatically.
How to know which size (small, medium or large) of tremmory will fit?
Aiseng P. Check 10:55 I go over that
@@bvanhoosen Thanks mate.
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I am Alexander KHROMOV
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Tremori, this invention belongs to a Russian from Russia - Alexander Khromov. View descriptions here patents.google.com/patent/RU2407067C1/en
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@@АлександрХромов-ю6и I have emailed to order 2. Thanks
Is this stabilizer good for us floyd rose rhythm players??
Yes! 100% it’ll make your life waaaay easier
It just arrived. My springs are setup in the v shape. Should I remove the middle one? Or straighten all 3 and add the tremmory?
I’d straighten all 3 and add the Tremmory. Just make sure you got as much range of motion as you want and can go up and down as much as you can without it.
Hey bro im seeing there is different sizes for these. What size do you suggest I get? I have a Jackson Rhoads with factory springs. I just want to be able to drop my sixth string as well haha.
Doug Maxwell check 10:55 my man! I discuss exactly that. Thanks for watching!
@@bvanhoosen Just saw. Im also having a problem finding these. And there all really expensive. Do you think the tremolo black box would help me do what Im trying to do?
What if you high e breaks? Does it stay in tune?
Yes it does! If you break a D or G string it might go slightly out though.
Where can i get one?Been looking but can't find one.
Check my other video about The ORIGINAL Tremmory.
I still don't get how does it work.
It’s basically just a spring loaded piston
Can you do flutter with that accessory?
No. I’m pretty sure you can’t flutter with any trem stabilizer, it’s a trade off
Unfortunately not, you cannot flutter with any trem stabilizer since they all introduce a 'zero' point. But, if you undo the little set screw, you can still flutter - you just wont be stabilized anymore.
@@bvanhoosen Thanks!!! Is possible to install d-tuna?
I emailed Alex , lets see where this will go :)