I just ordered one. The reverb listing had no shipping for NZ, and Mark here very quickly updated the listing for me when I enquired. I look forward to receiving the Treminator, I think it's definitely the best design of trem stabiliser I've seen so far. Miles ahead of anything else on the market.
Well, ibanez did that years back with the ZR system. When i bought an ibanez with ZR system i was amazed. I sold every single guitar that had a floyd rose. You literally tune once, and forget about it. Even with extreme abuse on the trem, stays in tune 100%. The ball bearing system is the smoothest i've ever played, and you don't have to worry about getting damaged over the years.
Add my comment to this. I’ve been using the “Tremeno” on my Strats. They work, but have to be manipulated during string replacement, which isn’t hard, but complicates the process. Your design doesn’t cover the string boot access, and I’d love to try one on my next guitar build!
I put a Hipshot Tremsetter on my Fender /Floyd Rose floating bridge 30 yrs ago. Adjusted the intoenation and then haven't touched it since. Not bad for a bridge that so many ripped on when it came out.
Just ordered mine today along with keyless nut locks. Thank you, Mark for your quick response to my technical difficulties with placing the order. Can’t wait to try the Treminator on my Charvel DK24 HH 2PT!
this is best version of these i’ve seen so far. i prefer mods that are reversible and don’t *require u to do extra drilling. The Quick-Release Locking Nut u guys make is also amazing, i highly recommend it**. The solutions u come up r top notch - under rated Channel.
I appreciate where you're coming from. I'm the opposite. I'm not thinking about the next owner. When I mod my guitars, they stay modded. I'd be all in for a version that requires routing, drilling holes, whatever, if it makes it more reliable.
Got one on my Charvel, not this make but the same principle. On a floating trem they really work wonders - essentially giving more stability to the 'zero point' on the trem. So when you palm mute or bend a string the guitar stays perfectly in tune as well as a hard tail, on mine it does anyway. Trem can still bend up and down as before but is so much more stable, wish all guitars with floating trems came with these as standard
Interesting, I have that exact same Traveler Vaibrant 88 deluxe guitar. It is my favorite guitar and I play it all the time. Sounds great, nice and light, but still basically an Ibanez Jemstyle without the extra wood. Very cool.
Looks amazing, as a guitar tech and player, I'd like to try this one :D I used to have the tremol-no plus the arming adjuster as a solution, this would solve the need for both.
Awesome system. I have a standard 2009 fender Strat w a two point trem rather than the old original 6 point. I don't know how he did it but my tech set it up and it never goes out of tune. But I can't set it for an open tuned situation. That's why this is so imperative to me. Thanks;) Note: I have a Hipshot a my 2000 Standard that NEVER goes out of tune, but they just never seemed to catch on. I think people are wary of the unknown.
Great device! I would love to try it out! ••• Question ••• With the Tone Vise Treminator Super Stabilizing System is it possible to have it installed with the claw being angled? Personally, I like Carl Verheyen’s suggestion that explains in a UA-cam video that top guitar strings tension must equal springs tension on the back. To do this he recommends the claw to be angled which makes perfect sense. So is it possible to angled the Tone Vise Treminator Super Stabilizing System claw?
looks like a great design! full floating is a totally different beast that's just a bridge too far for some of us fixed bridge folk. different feel, different sound. i tried one of those simpler versions but didn't like the transition "notch" and preferred blocked, dive-only as a compromise, but this looks like it could be an elegant solution.
Very well thought out! Looking forward to testing one of these. Love the idea of doing double stop bends without affecting the other strings pitch. Also really like that Vaibrant guitar. Little known fact; Steve Vai and his longtime guitar tech Thomas Nordegg both have Vaibrant guitars as well. Great guitars. Thomas has his all modded out.
this is cool. They reissued the kahler auto latch for the spyder that's on my old peavey tracer. Your stablizer is half the cost. Seriously going to be looking at this instead.
well it looks interesting. I have never used one, don't play frequently enough to do so. Look forward to install video and availability. I like to use tremelo fully functional, not a dive bomb only / locked fan although have a few guitars that way out of necessity as I'm sure we all do. Not a hardtail fan so keeping a floating trem in tune better than the fine tuners would be great.
You are using a Floyd Rose Vibrato with a DTuner fitted, but you haven't mentioned it. Am I correct?? The drop D tuning is a feature of the Floyd Rose, but the Treminator only stabilises the tuning.
I have the Tremmory and the Mag-Lok. I sacrifice fluttering for tuning stability and the ability to drop d without going out of tune on those. I am very curious about this bridge stabilizer though.
I think this gentleman says you can set it up for fluttering if you want to. One of the things that sold me on it is how simple it is to switch from dive only to floating. It will make drop tuning and string changes a breeze.
All we need is a well set up trem and a device that blocks it in a way that transfers the most amount of energy to the body, and it should be quick and easy to use, especially for stage use.
I'm picking it depends how you adjust it. You can probably adjust this down to the point where it's having almost no effect. I currently have a trem stop in mine, because I've yet to buy a stabiliser, and I've loosened off my springs to the point where it's almost floating. The slightest touch on the bar will bend pitch. Unfortunately my trem knife edges are pretty worn as it's a 10 year old guitar, so it won't stay in tune floating. Not even brand new top of the line Floyds will perfectly return to pitch as far as I can tell.
Not sure why this video was recommended to me, but this is a really cool find because I love to have my FR locked down so I get the tuning stability but don’t really dive
Pretty nice piece. Early 90s I had a Rockinger Blackbox in my Ibanez, a much simpler device I noticed you can't do that cat purr thing anymore with the guitar. That disappointed me a little bit.
I have tremmory installed. It works awesome and I love it. If this thing is just like tremorry, and hopefully I don't have to purchase it overseas and it's reasonably priced, I'll be a customer.
Any chance we will see different finishes on these in the future? Maybe a black or chrome option? I like the brass but it may clash with all the chrome components of a floyd rose
Really nice design - looks rock solid while still being kinda beautiful. The knurled parts in particular look reassuringly heavy duty. Just one thing worth mentioning. It might be an idea to bump up the explanation of what it does and the problems it solves, rather than starting with the in-depth stuff. Some people will be hearing about this kind of thing for the first time so it might not be as obvious to them as it is for you.
Aye for sure! I get like this when I'm deep into something too. Obsessive myopia. Hope the guy doesn't think I was ragging on him though, just an observation. Because I could see people checking out before it got to the part that made it worthwhile, which it definitely is! Super cool idea and thoroughly implemented. I've been shopping for a used Ibanez since this morning... 😅
There should be a trem arm that has hex bits on the ends/tips the 1 that goes in trem arm hole to be for the nut & stuff & the tip of the arm be the smaller size bit with the arm being a bit short so that you have a cap that screws on over top of the tip of the arm so you can have a rounded feeling to the arm & it be not so sharp/pointy or a cover to fit over it like fender arms have but made of metal to match the arm & so that you don't have to carry tools with you all the time besides a Phillips/flathead screwdriver & soldering iron stuff
Epic gear. Super old school website!! AND the gear you're showing here isn't even available in the site!! Tf?! I subbed. Hope you get an influx of sales from this bit UPDATE YOUR SITE DUDE!
this is old technology re-branded. I literally bought my 1990 strat plus deluxe with a device almost identical to this. It worked great for probably a month during heavy touring, and as soon as those rubber washers wore out it was a total nightmare! Tore it all out, put the other springs back in, locked it back as a hardtail, and have used it like that ever since.
"almost identical" That was the Hipshot Tremsetter. I'm not going to comment on the reliability of that device, but it is closer to ‘superficially reminiscent’, than ‘almost identical’. Maybe get some new specs, gramps?
I have a 93' Strat that came with a Tremsetter as well, never liked how there was a noticeable center notch so I removed it. That's one of the reasons I designed this.
Now back in stock! tonevise.com/Treminator/
12 more in stock this morning.
I just ordered one. The reverb listing had no shipping for NZ, and Mark here very quickly updated the listing for me when I enquired.
I look forward to receiving the Treminator, I think it's definitely the best design of trem stabiliser I've seen so far. Miles ahead of anything else on the market.
Sold on of initial production batch, more will be available next week.
I appreciate you designing this without having to modify or drill into the instrument!
Thanks!
This might be the most well thought-out trem stabilizer, sharing this
Thank you!
Lots of features for such a compact design. This looks amazing. I can't wait to try one out. Please keep us all posted!
Well, ibanez did that years back with the ZR system. When i bought an ibanez with ZR system i was amazed. I sold every single guitar that had a floyd rose. You literally tune once, and forget about it. Even with extreme abuse on the trem, stays in tune 100%.
The ball bearing system is the smoothest i've ever played, and you don't have to worry about getting damaged over the years.
I'll be adding an install video this week guys and gals, I appreciate your patience, they'll be available for sale then. Thanks.
Install video up ua-cam.com/video/A6ZgnMMFnoE/v-deo.html
I totally appreciate the mechanics of build of this product. Very cool.
Better hurry and get these on your website dude, we're all interested.
Likewise. I've been waiting for an updated version. This answers my needs, although I'd love to see someone go wild with that bar… :-)
Add my comment to this. I’ve been using the “Tremeno” on my Strats. They work, but have to be manipulated during string replacement, which isn’t hard, but complicates the process. Your design doesn’t cover the string boot access, and I’d love to try one on my next guitar build!
I put a Hipshot Tremsetter on my Fender /Floyd Rose floating bridge 30 yrs ago. Adjusted the intoenation and then haven't touched it since. Not bad for a bridge that so many ripped on when it came out.
Just ordered mine today along with keyless nut locks. Thank you, Mark for your quick response to my technical difficulties with placing the order. Can’t wait to try the Treminator on my Charvel DK24 HH 2PT!
Thanks Aaron!
Looks really well designed and made. Kudos to you.
Thank you!
finally someone figured it out. i wanna buy
As a player, a trem that stays in tune is a beautiful thing.
this is best version of these i’ve seen so far. i prefer mods that are reversible and don’t *require u to do extra drilling. The Quick-Release Locking Nut u guys make is also amazing, i highly recommend it**. The solutions u come up r top notch - under rated Channel.
I appreciate where you're coming from. I'm the opposite. I'm not thinking about the next owner. When I mod my guitars, they stay modded. I'd be all in for a version that requires routing, drilling holes, whatever, if it makes it more reliable.
Thank you for your comment.
Got one on my Charvel, not this make but the same principle. On a floating trem they really work wonders - essentially giving more stability to the 'zero point' on the trem. So when you palm mute or bend a string the guitar stays perfectly in tune as well as a hard tail, on mine it does anyway. Trem can still bend up and down as before but is so much more stable, wish all guitars with floating trems came with these as standard
Interesting, I have that exact same Traveler Vaibrant 88 deluxe guitar. It is my favorite guitar and I play it all the time. Sounds great, nice and light, but still basically an Ibanez Jemstyle without the extra wood. Very cool.
Cool product, Good luck!
My hip shot tremsetter on the strat plus deluxe works a treat and mine has had heavy wear since 1989 !!!!
Very interested, I can't wait to see them available 👍
Looks amazing, as a guitar tech and player, I'd like to try this one :D I used to have the tremol-no plus the arming adjuster as a solution, this would solve the need for both.
I love it. To tremolo or not is the reason. Having reliable choice. Great work.
Thanks.
This looks built really well... I will have to give it a try...
Awesome system. I have a standard 2009 fender Strat w a two point trem rather than the old original 6 point. I don't know how he did it but my tech set it up and it never goes out of tune. But I can't set it for an open tuned situation. That's why this is so imperative to me. Thanks;) Note: I have a Hipshot a my 2000 Standard that NEVER goes out of tune, but they just never seemed to catch on. I think people are wary of the unknown.
Great device! I would love to try it out! ••• Question ••• With the Tone Vise Treminator Super Stabilizing System is it possible to have it installed with the claw being angled?
Personally, I like Carl Verheyen’s suggestion that explains in a UA-cam video that top guitar strings tension must equal springs tension on the back. To do this he recommends the claw to be angled which makes perfect sense. So is it possible to angled the Tone Vise Treminator Super Stabilizing System claw?
You probably could but angling the claw doesn't help with anything.
looks like a great design! full floating is a totally different beast that's just a bridge too far for some of us fixed bridge folk. different feel, different sound. i tried one of those simpler versions but didn't like the transition "notch" and preferred blocked, dive-only as a compromise, but this looks like it could be an elegant solution.
I agree!
Very well thought out! Looking forward to testing one of these. Love the idea of doing double stop bends without affecting the other strings pitch.
Also really like that Vaibrant guitar. Little known fact; Steve Vai and his longtime guitar tech Thomas Nordegg both have Vaibrant guitars as well. Great guitars. Thomas has his all modded out.
I bought this one after Thomas showed me his.
@@tonevise3834Thomas is a good man. I’m friends with him. He’s moving back to Austria soon.
I saw him at the last NAMM Show, Thomas is the best.
Can you do it for every string and multiscale? Evertune do not make bridges for multiscale and headless.
If it has as fulcrum tremolo then it should work.
I'm ready to try it out, but it's not on the website yet.
I've been listing batches of ten on Reverb and the sell out pretty quickly. I have to package the kits with all the parts. Keep watching Reverb.
This device along with the new Lockmeister 6 Tremolo which is radiused at the nut and bridge will make worthy upgrades to my Charvel Pro-Mod!
beautifully crafted!
Wow, thank you!
Looks great, will it work on a 1987 Ibanez 540P ?
It should work great.
this is cool. They reissued the kahler auto latch for the spyder that's on my old peavey tracer. Your stablizer is half the cost. Seriously going to be looking at this instead.
Thanks
When will this be available to purchase?
well it looks interesting. I have never used one, don't play frequently enough to do so. Look forward to install video and availability. I like to use tremelo fully functional, not a dive bomb only / locked fan although have a few guitars that way out of necessity as I'm sure we all do. Not a hardtail fan so keeping a floating trem in tune better than the fine tuners would be great.
It looks very practical.
It's only the extra weight, for me just being fine with my guitar as it is. Well wishings and all the best furthermore.
Very interested in purchasing. Thanks for the video
Hope you enjoy it!
Nice looking machined parts and engineering.
Very interesting design. I'll recommend this to some of my customers.
Thank you!
You are using a Floyd Rose Vibrato with a DTuner fitted, but you haven't mentioned it. Am I correct?? The drop D tuning is a feature of the Floyd Rose, but the Treminator only stabilises the tuning.
I have one of my Tone Vise Pitch Shifters installed on the guitar for drop D.
I have the Tremmory and the Mag-Lok. I sacrifice fluttering for tuning stability and the ability to drop d without going out of tune on those. I am very curious about this bridge stabilizer though.
Thanks for sharing!
I think this gentleman says you can set it up for fluttering if you want to. One of the things that sold me on it is how simple it is to switch from dive only to floating. It will make drop tuning and string changes a breeze.
All we need is a well set up trem and a device that blocks it in a way that transfers the most amount of energy to the body, and it should be quick and easy to use, especially for stage use.
Where is the purchase link. I want to see the price?
See the link at the top.
wow, this looks pretty cool.
Glad you think so!
How is the flutter? Most of these type of devices are too tight to flutter the bar.
I'm picking it depends how you adjust it. You can probably adjust this down to the point where it's having almost no effect.
I currently have a trem stop in mine, because I've yet to buy a stabiliser, and I've loosened off my springs to the point where it's almost floating. The slightest touch on the bar will bend pitch. Unfortunately my trem knife edges are pretty worn as it's a 10 year old guitar, so it won't stay in tune floating. Not even brand new top of the line Floyds will perfectly return to pitch as far as I can tell.
Can’t see them for sale on your website?
I put some up on Reverb for sale, see the link at the top of the page.
Great design. Question: Do you even need the two springs on the side? Couldn’t the spring in the middle do the heavy lifting for the whole system?
Definitely needs the two springs.
Mine comes today. Is there an install video?
I posted the install link at the top.
How much?
Not sure why this video was recommended to me, but this is a really cool find because I love to have my FR locked down so I get the tuning stability but don’t really dive
Pretty nice piece. Early 90s I had a Rockinger Blackbox in my Ibanez, a much simpler device I noticed you can't do that cat purr thing anymore with the guitar. That disappointed me a little bit.
Is this available for bass too? If not what options for a bass trem system do you recommend? Thanks
Not for bass sorry.
in use - how does it compare with the hipshot tremsetter? I have 5 strats fitted with those and I like them. but the lock feature looks interesting.
I think mine is easier to install, no extra holes to drill, no center notch, full locking claw, drop stop feature, lot's of features.
I have tremmory installed. It works awesome and I love it. If this thing is just like tremorry, and hopefully I don't have to purchase it overseas and it's reasonably priced, I'll be a customer.
I designed to be better than the Tremmory. Available here in the USA.
Nice mark!
Thanks Nick!
Looking forward to this
Nice setup! What guitar is that?
A Traveler Vaibrant Deluxe.
This makes a lot of sense
I think so too!
will it be compatible with the schaller sure claw?
I don't think so.
looks good well done
Looks like a better setup than the Tremel-no. I look forward to purchasing!
This looks solid. Too bad I literally install the esp stabilizer last week. But this looks infinitely better
that's pretty cool.
Thank you!
When will these be available?
Wow looks like a cool product
I'm a carpenter . Not a fan of using brass screws in wood
It's so soft. Carefull they don't snap easy. But ya supee cool
Yeah, that was my concern as well.
Ive broken brass screws in wood. Makes the entire design suspect?
I'm including some steel cabinet screws as well. I go over in the install video to use a lubricant if the brass screws are used.
When can we start buying the Treminator?
See the link at the top to my Reverb page.
What is the purpose of this device?..
Would this work for ANY alt tuning, or just drop-D tuning????
It should work for any tuning providing the guitar is setup properly.
would love to try one.
I have a Schaller sure claw, can i use just the stabilizer with this claw?
I don't think so.
Any mention of price?
next level...
Any other place to buy these? I can't stand reverb.
www.tonevise.com
Is it reasonable to use the thumbwheel to lockout the tremolo (at times) for playing the guitar as a hardtail?
It can be set for dive only. It isn't necessary to lockout the trem, that's the purpose of a stabilizer.
Is that available now?
You mention they are available. Went to the site and don't see them yet?
Later this week I'll have them up. The response has been overwhelming to say the least!
Can i putt it in a P.R.S. se edition too? 🤔
Wow, nice work!
That's a 21st Century solution to some age old problems. When will you design a whole trem system its long overdue for even the best of em👍✌️💜😊
He'll be back ...!!
… with an installation tutorial!
(say it in Arnie's voice)
Could definitely make use of this.
Nice! been waiting for this!!
I hope you sell lots of them
Thank you, I hope so too!
Any chance we will see different finishes on these in the future? Maybe a black or chrome option? I like the brass but it may clash with all the chrome components of a floyd rose
That's definitely in the cards.
Is there a way to use this design with a Schaller Sure claw??
I don't believe so but it can do what the Sure Claw does.
Like Patrick -857 said, we're all interested. Waiting for the Treminator.
I like it.!
Really nice design - looks rock solid while still being kinda beautiful. The knurled parts in particular look reassuringly heavy duty.
Just one thing worth mentioning.
It might be an idea to bump up the explanation of what it does and the problems it solves, rather than starting with the in-depth stuff.
Some people will be hearing about this kind of thing for the first time so it might not be as obvious to them as it is for you.
That’s the issue with engineers trying to sell a concept!
Aye for sure! I get like this when I'm deep into something too. Obsessive myopia.
Hope the guy doesn't think I was ragging on him though, just an observation. Because I could see people checking out before it got to the part that made it worthwhile, which it definitely is! Super cool idea and thoroughly implemented.
I've been shopping for a used Ibanez since this morning... 😅
How much does this weigh? And, can it limit travel in both directions?
About a quarter pound. It has dive only, stabilizing mode or can be disengaged.
@tonevise3834 thank you.
I want one!! But I need two! 🎈
Me again. The product seems fine.
It's just the two screws that go into thr body.
Seems cool.
How does this compare to a hip shot trendsetter?
I think better and a whole lot easier to install. No holes to drill.
link to product pls
There should be a trem arm that has hex bits on the ends/tips the 1 that goes in trem arm hole to be for the nut & stuff & the tip of the arm be the smaller size bit with the arm being a bit short so that you have a cap that screws on over top of the tip of the arm so you can have a rounded feeling to the arm & it be not so sharp/pointy or a cover to fit over it like fender arms have but made of metal to match the arm & so that you don't have to carry tools with you all the time besides a Phillips/flathead screwdriver & soldering iron stuff
how do i get one man. really !!
Just keep an eye on the Reverb listing.
Very Cool! *__*
How much does it weigh?
About a quarter pound.
Not shown on your website.
I'll have them up this week.
Epic gear. Super old school website!! AND the gear you're showing here isn't even available in the site!! Tf?! I subbed. Hope you get an influx of sales from this bit UPDATE YOUR SITE DUDE!
this is old technology re-branded. I literally bought my 1990 strat plus deluxe with a device almost identical to this. It worked great for probably a month during heavy touring, and as soon as those rubber washers wore out it was a total nightmare! Tore it all out, put the other springs back in, locked it back as a hardtail, and have used it like that ever since.
"almost identical"
That was the Hipshot Tremsetter. I'm not going to comment on the reliability of that device, but it is closer to ‘superficially reminiscent’, than ‘almost identical’.
Maybe get some new specs, gramps?
I have a 93' Strat that came with a Tremsetter as well, never liked how there was a noticeable center notch so I removed it. That's one of the reasons I designed this.