Well, ibanez did that years back with the ZR system. When i bought an ibanez with ZR system i was amazed. I sold every single guitar that had a floyd rose. You literally tune once, and forget about it. Even with extreme abuse on the trem, stays in tune 100%. The ball bearing system is the smoothest i've ever played, and you don't have to worry about getting damaged over the years.
I have an Ibanez with the ZR system, I found it really doesn't work well when down tuning and, made the trem fell very stiff. Plus it's proprietary to Ibanez only.
Got one. Installed and set up yesterday. It does the things the manufacturer says in the video, he’s made a great product. Best stabiliser I’ve used by far.
Just ordered mine today along with keyless nut locks. Thank you, Mark for your quick response to my technical difficulties with placing the order. Can’t wait to try the Treminator on my Charvel DK24 HH 2PT!
Add my comment to this. I’ve been using the “Tremeno” on my Strats. They work, but have to be manipulated during string replacement, which isn’t hard, but complicates the process. Your design doesn’t cover the string boot access, and I’d love to try one on my next guitar build!
this is best version of these i’ve seen so far. i prefer mods that are reversible and don’t *require u to do extra drilling. The Quick-Release Locking Nut u guys make is also amazing, i highly recommend it**. The solutions u come up r top notch - under rated Channel.
I got mine installed, I gotta say, I'm impressed. I forget it's installed when playing, my tuning stability is better, and I can do drop D if I need to. A+, this is a great upgrade for a tremolo. I have it on my Charvel DK24.
I put a Hipshot Tremsetter on my Fender /Floyd Rose floating bridge 30 yrs ago. Adjusted the intoenation and then haven't touched it since. Not bad for a bridge that so many ripped on when it came out.
Interesting, I have that exact same Traveler Vaibrant 88 deluxe guitar. It is my favorite guitar and I play it all the time. Sounds great, nice and light, but still basically an Ibanez Jemstyle without the extra wood. Very cool.
Looks amazing, as a guitar tech and player, I'd like to try this one :D I used to have the tremol-no plus the arming adjuster as a solution, this would solve the need for both.
Got one on my Charvel, not this make but the same principle. On a floating trem they really work wonders - essentially giving more stability to the 'zero point' on the trem. So when you palm mute or bend a string the guitar stays perfectly in tune as well as a hard tail, on mine it does anyway. Trem can still bend up and down as before but is so much more stable, wish all guitars with floating trems came with these as standard
Very well thought out! Looking forward to testing one of these. Love the idea of doing double stop bends without affecting the other strings pitch. Also really like that Vaibrant guitar. Little known fact; Steve Vai and his longtime guitar tech Thomas Nordegg both have Vaibrant guitars as well. Great guitars. Thomas has his all modded out.
well it looks interesting. I have never used one, don't play frequently enough to do so. Look forward to install video and availability. I like to use tremelo fully functional, not a dive bomb only / locked fan although have a few guitars that way out of necessity as I'm sure we all do. Not a hardtail fan so keeping a floating trem in tune better than the fine tuners would be great.
Awesome system. I have a standard 2009 fender Strat w a two point trem rather than the old original 6 point. I don't know how he did it but my tech set it up and it never goes out of tune. But I can't set it for an open tuned situation. That's why this is so imperative to me. Thanks;) Note: I have a Hipshot a my 2000 Standard that NEVER goes out of tune, but they just never seemed to catch on. I think people are wary of the unknown.
All we need is a well set up trem and a device that blocks it in a way that transfers the most amount of energy to the body, and it should be quick and easy to use, especially for stage use.
I'm picking it depends how you adjust it. You can probably adjust this down to the point where it's having almost no effect. I currently have a trem stop in mine, because I've yet to buy a stabiliser, and I've loosened off my springs to the point where it's almost floating. The slightest touch on the bar will bend pitch. Unfortunately my trem knife edges are pretty worn as it's a 10 year old guitar, so it won't stay in tune floating. Not even brand new top of the line Floyds will perfectly return to pitch as far as I can tell.
I have the Tremmory and the Mag-Lok. I sacrifice fluttering for tuning stability and the ability to drop d without going out of tune on those. I am very curious about this bridge stabilizer though.
I think this gentleman says you can set it up for fluttering if you want to. One of the things that sold me on it is how simple it is to switch from dive only to floating. It will make drop tuning and string changes a breeze.
looks like a great design! full floating is a totally different beast that's just a bridge too far for some of us fixed bridge folk. different feel, different sound. i tried one of those simpler versions but didn't like the transition "notch" and preferred blocked, dive-only as a compromise, but this looks like it could be an elegant solution.
I have tremmory installed. It works awesome and I love it. If this thing is just like tremorry, and hopefully I don't have to purchase it overseas and it's reasonably priced, I'll be a customer.
this is cool. They reissued the kahler auto latch for the spyder that's on my old peavey tracer. Your stablizer is half the cost. Seriously going to be looking at this instead.
Great device! I would love to try it out! ••• Question ••• With the Tone Vise Treminator Super Stabilizing System is it possible to have it installed with the claw being angled? Personally, I like Carl Verheyen’s suggestion that explains in a UA-cam video that top guitar strings tension must equal springs tension on the back. To do this he recommends the claw to be angled which makes perfect sense. So is it possible to angled the Tone Vise Treminator Super Stabilizing System claw?
@ thank you. I actually contacted you a while ago and ordered one. Just installed it today. After a bit of tweaking the various barrel adjusters I’ve got it set perfectly. No centre notch on zero point, nice feel for up and down vibrato on chords etc, big Vai style pull ups….man you cracked it. It’s fucking wicked. Worth every penny. Legend!!
You are using a Floyd Rose Vibrato with a DTuner fitted, but you haven't mentioned it. Am I correct?? The drop D tuning is a feature of the Floyd Rose, but the Treminator only stabilises the tuning.
Not sure why this video was recommended to me, but this is a really cool find because I love to have my FR locked down so I get the tuning stability but don’t really dive
this is old technology re-branded. I literally bought my 1990 strat plus deluxe with a device almost identical to this. It worked great for probably a month during heavy touring, and as soon as those rubber washers wore out it was a total nightmare! Tore it all out, put the other springs back in, locked it back as a hardtail, and have used it like that ever since.
I have a 93' Strat that came with a Tremsetter as well, never liked how there was a noticeable center notch so I removed it. That's one of the reasons I designed this.
Epic gear. Super old school website!! AND the gear you're showing here isn't even available in the site!! Tf?! I subbed. Hope you get an influx of sales from this bit UPDATE YOUR SITE DUDE!
Pretty nice piece. Early 90s I had a Rockinger Blackbox in my Ibanez, a much simpler device I noticed you can't do that cat purr thing anymore with the guitar. That disappointed me a little bit.
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I'll be adding an install video this week guys and gals, I appreciate your patience, they'll be available for sale then. Thanks.
Install video up ua-cam.com/video/A6ZgnMMFnoE/v-deo.html
This might be the most well thought-out trem stabilizer, sharing this
Thank you!
Well, ibanez did that years back with the ZR system. When i bought an ibanez with ZR system i was amazed. I sold every single guitar that had a floyd rose. You literally tune once, and forget about it. Even with extreme abuse on the trem, stays in tune 100%.
The ball bearing system is the smoothest i've ever played, and you don't have to worry about getting damaged over the years.
I have an Ibanez with the ZR system, I found it really doesn't work well when down tuning and, made the trem fell very stiff. Plus it's proprietary to Ibanez only.
Got one. Installed and set up yesterday. It does the things the manufacturer says in the video, he’s made a great product. Best stabiliser I’ve used by far.
Thank you for your support and positive feedback!
Lots of features for such a compact design. This looks amazing. I can't wait to try one out. Please keep us all posted!
Installation/setup was easy thanks to the install video. Really does work well to keep everything much more stable. Excellent product.
Thanks for the feedback, it's always good to hear positive reviews!
I appreciate you designing this without having to modify or drill into the instrument!
Thanks!
I totally appreciate the mechanics of build of this product. Very cool.
Looks really well designed and made. Kudos to you.
Thank you!
Just ordered mine today along with keyless nut locks. Thank you, Mark for your quick response to my technical difficulties with placing the order. Can’t wait to try the Treminator on my Charvel DK24 HH 2PT!
Thanks Aaron!
Better hurry and get these on your website dude, we're all interested.
Add my comment to this. I’ve been using the “Tremeno” on my Strats. They work, but have to be manipulated during string replacement, which isn’t hard, but complicates the process. Your design doesn’t cover the string boot access, and I’d love to try one on my next guitar build!
As a player, a trem that stays in tune is a beautiful thing.
finally someone figured it out. i wanna buy
this is best version of these i’ve seen so far. i prefer mods that are reversible and don’t *require u to do extra drilling. The Quick-Release Locking Nut u guys make is also amazing, i highly recommend it**. The solutions u come up r top notch - under rated Channel.
Thank you for your comment.
This is a really clever design, I like the concept!
Thanks!
I got mine installed, I gotta say, I'm impressed. I forget it's installed when playing, my tuning stability is better, and I can do drop D if I need to. A+, this is a great upgrade for a tremolo. I have it on my Charvel DK24.
Thanks Brendan for the positive feedback!
Cool product, Good luck!
I love it. To tremolo or not is the reason. Having reliable choice. Great work.
Thanks.
Looks great to me. I have a Trimmory right now. This seems pretty cool. Great features.
Glad you like it! I think it's a much better design.
Very interested, I can't wait to see them available 👍
This looks built really well... I will have to give it a try...
I put a Hipshot Tremsetter on my Fender /Floyd Rose floating bridge 30 yrs ago. Adjusted the intoenation and then haven't touched it since. Not bad for a bridge that so many ripped on when it came out.
My hip shot tremsetter on the strat plus deluxe works a treat and mine has had heavy wear since 1989 !!!!
I do like the look of this, and it's potential!
You had me at the solder tab!
Thanks
Interesting, I have that exact same Traveler Vaibrant 88 deluxe guitar. It is my favorite guitar and I play it all the time. Sounds great, nice and light, but still basically an Ibanez Jemstyle without the extra wood. Very cool.
Looks amazing, as a guitar tech and player, I'd like to try this one :D I used to have the tremol-no plus the arming adjuster as a solution, this would solve the need for both.
beautifully crafted!
Wow, thank you!
Got one on my Charvel, not this make but the same principle. On a floating trem they really work wonders - essentially giving more stability to the 'zero point' on the trem. So when you palm mute or bend a string the guitar stays perfectly in tune as well as a hard tail, on mine it does anyway. Trem can still bend up and down as before but is so much more stable, wish all guitars with floating trems came with these as standard
Let Charvel know that you'd like their guitars to come with them.
so it prevents the trem to move, when resting your hand on the trem, that sounds pretty nice
Very interesting design. I'll recommend this to some of my customers.
Thank you!
Holy crap i was just thinking about a setup like this! Why i dont play floyds anymore. AWESOME My friend!
Thanks! Glad you like it.
Very well thought out! Looking forward to testing one of these. Love the idea of doing double stop bends without affecting the other strings pitch.
Also really like that Vaibrant guitar. Little known fact; Steve Vai and his longtime guitar tech Thomas Nordegg both have Vaibrant guitars as well. Great guitars. Thomas has his all modded out.
I bought this one after Thomas showed me his.
@@tonevise3834Thomas is a good man. I’m friends with him. He’s moving back to Austria soon.
I saw him at the last NAMM Show, Thomas is the best.
Nice! been waiting for this!!
well it looks interesting. I have never used one, don't play frequently enough to do so. Look forward to install video and availability. I like to use tremelo fully functional, not a dive bomb only / locked fan although have a few guitars that way out of necessity as I'm sure we all do. Not a hardtail fan so keeping a floating trem in tune better than the fine tuners would be great.
This device along with the new Lockmeister 6 Tremolo which is radiused at the nut and bridge will make worthy upgrades to my Charvel Pro-Mod!
Can’t see them for sale on your website?
I put some up on Reverb for sale, see the link at the top of the page.
Awesome system. I have a standard 2009 fender Strat w a two point trem rather than the old original 6 point. I don't know how he did it but my tech set it up and it never goes out of tune. But I can't set it for an open tuned situation. That's why this is so imperative to me. Thanks;) Note: I have a Hipshot a my 2000 Standard that NEVER goes out of tune, but they just never seemed to catch on. I think people are wary of the unknown.
How much?
Nice mark!
Thanks Nick!
looks good well done
Appreciate it!
Looking forward to this
All we need is a well set up trem and a device that blocks it in a way that transfers the most amount of energy to the body, and it should be quick and easy to use, especially for stage use.
would love to try one.
wow, this looks pretty cool.
Glad you think so!
How is the flutter? Most of these type of devices are too tight to flutter the bar.
I'm picking it depends how you adjust it. You can probably adjust this down to the point where it's having almost no effect.
I currently have a trem stop in mine, because I've yet to buy a stabiliser, and I've loosened off my springs to the point where it's almost floating. The slightest touch on the bar will bend pitch. Unfortunately my trem knife edges are pretty worn as it's a 10 year old guitar, so it won't stay in tune floating. Not even brand new top of the line Floyds will perfectly return to pitch as far as I can tell.
Wow, nice work!
It looks very practical.
It's only the extra weight, for me just being fine with my guitar as it is. Well wishings and all the best furthermore.
Where is the purchase link. I want to see the price?
See the link at the top.
I have the Tremmory and the Mag-Lok. I sacrifice fluttering for tuning stability and the ability to drop d without going out of tune on those. I am very curious about this bridge stabilizer though.
Thanks for sharing!
I think this gentleman says you can set it up for fluttering if you want to. One of the things that sold me on it is how simple it is to switch from dive only to floating. It will make drop tuning and string changes a breeze.
When will this be available to purchase?
I'm ready to try it out, but it's not on the website yet.
I've been listing batches of ten on Reverb and the sell out pretty quickly. I have to package the kits with all the parts. Keep watching Reverb.
Is that available now?
When will these be available?
He'll be back ...!!
Can you do it for every string and multiscale? Evertune do not make bridges for multiscale and headless.
If it has as fulcrum tremolo then it should work.
Nice setup! What guitar is that?
A Traveler Vaibrant Deluxe.
will it be compatible with the schaller sure claw?
I don't think so.
Great design. Question: Do you even need the two springs on the side? Couldn’t the spring in the middle do the heavy lifting for the whole system?
Definitely needs the two springs.
looks like a great design! full floating is a totally different beast that's just a bridge too far for some of us fixed bridge folk. different feel, different sound. i tried one of those simpler versions but didn't like the transition "notch" and preferred blocked, dive-only as a compromise, but this looks like it could be an elegant solution.
I agree!
I have tremmory installed. It works awesome and I love it. If this thing is just like tremorry, and hopefully I don't have to purchase it overseas and it's reasonably priced, I'll be a customer.
I designed to be better than the Tremmory. Available here in the USA.
Mine comes today. Is there an install video?
I posted the install link at the top.
Can i putt it in a P.R.S. se edition too? 🤔
Very interested in purchasing. Thanks for the video
Hope you enjoy it!
Is there a way to use this design with a Schaller Sure claw??
I don't believe so but it can do what the Sure Claw does.
this is cool. They reissued the kahler auto latch for the spyder that's on my old peavey tracer. Your stablizer is half the cost. Seriously going to be looking at this instead.
Thanks
can you hardtail the bridge with this?
It can be set to dive only if that's what you mean.
Great device! I would love to try it out! ••• Question ••• With the Tone Vise Treminator Super Stabilizing System is it possible to have it installed with the claw being angled?
Personally, I like Carl Verheyen’s suggestion that explains in a UA-cam video that top guitar strings tension must equal springs tension on the back. To do this he recommends the claw to be angled which makes perfect sense. So is it possible to angled the Tone Vise Treminator Super Stabilizing System claw?
You probably could but angling the claw doesn't help with anything.
Lovely bit of engineering there!!
Thank you!
in use - how does it compare with the hipshot tremsetter? I have 5 strats fitted with those and I like them. but the lock feature looks interesting.
I think mine is easier to install, no extra holes to drill, no center notch, full locking claw, drop stop feature, lot's of features.
This makes a lot of sense
I think so too!
Do you ship to the UK?
Yes I do.
@ thank you. I actually contacted you a while ago and ordered one. Just installed it today. After a bit of tweaking the various barrel adjusters I’ve got it set perfectly. No centre notch on zero point, nice feel for up and down vibrato on chords etc, big Vai style pull ups….man you cracked it. It’s fucking wicked. Worth every penny. Legend!!
Thank you Sam! Glad you like it!
You are using a Floyd Rose Vibrato with a DTuner fitted, but you haven't mentioned it. Am I correct?? The drop D tuning is a feature of the Floyd Rose, but the Treminator only stabilises the tuning.
I have one of my Tone Vise Pitch Shifters installed on the guitar for drop D.
next level...
Not sure why this video was recommended to me, but this is a really cool find because I love to have my FR locked down so I get the tuning stability but don’t really dive
I have a Schaller sure claw, can i use just the stabilizer with this claw?
I don't think so.
You mention they are available. Went to the site and don't see them yet?
Later this week I'll have them up. The response has been overwhelming to say the least!
link to product pls
Is this available for bass too? If not what options for a bass trem system do you recommend? Thanks
Not for bass sorry.
Could definitely make use of this.
Looks like a better setup than the Tremel-no. I look forward to purchasing!
Looks great, will it work on a 1987 Ibanez 540P ?
It should work great.
Any other place to buy these? I can't stand reverb.
www.tonevise.com
this is old technology re-branded. I literally bought my 1990 strat plus deluxe with a device almost identical to this. It worked great for probably a month during heavy touring, and as soon as those rubber washers wore out it was a total nightmare! Tore it all out, put the other springs back in, locked it back as a hardtail, and have used it like that ever since.
I have a 93' Strat that came with a Tremsetter as well, never liked how there was a noticeable center notch so I removed it. That's one of the reasons I designed this.
Is it reasonable to use the thumbwheel to lockout the tremolo (at times) for playing the guitar as a hardtail?
It can be set for dive only. It isn't necessary to lockout the trem, that's the purpose of a stabilizer.
When can we start buying the Treminator?
See the link at the top to my Reverb page.
that's pretty cool.
Thank you!
This is excellent engineering. Leo Fender would have approved
Thank you, I appreciate that!
What is the purpose of this device?..
This looks solid. Too bad I literally install the esp stabilizer last week. But this looks infinitely better
Would this work for ANY alt tuning, or just drop-D tuning????
It should work for any tuning providing the guitar is setup properly.
Any mention of price?
They're on sale now at tonevise.com
Not shown on your website.
I'll have them up this week.
Epic gear. Super old school website!! AND the gear you're showing here isn't even available in the site!! Tf?! I subbed. Hope you get an influx of sales from this bit UPDATE YOUR SITE DUDE!
A piece of smart art ! Wow ! It looks like it was made by Skynet ! 😬
The secret is out.
Pretty nice piece. Early 90s I had a Rockinger Blackbox in my Ibanez, a much simpler device I noticed you can't do that cat purr thing anymore with the guitar. That disappointed me a little bit.
How does this compare to a hip shot trendsetter?
I think better and a whole lot easier to install. No holes to drill.
Like Patrick -857 said, we're all interested. Waiting for the Treminator.
how do i get one man. really !!
Just keep an eye on the Reverb listing.