2:45 That's a JTAG port, used for debugging. You can step through lines of code in the processor, or you can probe individual signals in the FPGA. The DE10 Nano has a JTAG chip built in, so you just need to connect a USB cable to it. The MiSTer Pi requires an external JTAG USB Blaster.
@@adrianrodriguez-iz1wr Possible he's not 100% sure, and not wanting give wrong information, that one could trackback ones self of ones self give wrong information?, better having it tracked back to a user comment, that not you, lest chance of being fired?
He got so many complaints about the name that he ran a poll to change the name before the official release. Despite people voting overwhelmingly against it, he kept the Pi name anyways.
It's kind of a dumb thing to get upset about honestly. The name "Pi" in of itself isn't trademarkable and is used on a swath of SBCs that have very little to do with each other, at this point it's really just shorthand for a kind of SBC of which the MiSTER is one.
Because Taki Udon truly belives he can't do no wrong and knows better than everyone. My biggest issue with this project is him, he's known in the SBC community as being arrogant, incredibly biased and always trying to take the credit for products he kinda helped on. 2 years ago, he did a video where he was trying to take credits on the success of the Retroid Pocket 3+ because he gave some suggestions to Retroid for the design of the original Pocket 3 (which has some truly stupid ideas, like putting the Start and Select buttons on the top instead of the front, and the Home button where you put your right hand to actually use the device), while simultaneously trying to distance himself from the shitshow that was the release of the 3, when he teased it a lot on UA-cam before the official reveal, so he was part of the marketing team (and if he truly did create it, the one responsible of the issues), but he doesn't want to admit that, he wants his cake and eat it too. That guy loves to propose something to a company and then acts like he did everything.
Story of my life: A UA-cam channel features an amazing little piece of retro tech. I instantly go to the product's site to buy it It's always sold out with no clear indication of when it's going to restock Forget it exists Something better comes out, making the previous product obsolete Everything repeats all over again
It's true for many of us I'm sure. And in my case it's for the better. If I manage to snag one of these retro gaming doodads I usually use it a couple of times, put it aside for a few years then sell it. It happened with Anbernic handhelds, the OSSC, RPI 4, multiple everdrives etc. I always come back to original hardware.
@@astrolemonade349 Didn't know that, but still that doesn't change that I want to buy something I see online only to discover it's sold out (sometimes permanently).
Best thing for most people will be to get one of the ITX expansion boards, lets you fit the mister into a regular PC case, as small as mini-itx. While the small mister cases are the smallest you'll get. they look terrible under the TV, and because wires come out of every side of it, it looks like a plate of spider spaghetti. A nice ITX case and you're rocking a media center like setup for gaming that remains clean.
my dad is super into the mister ecosystem and he ended up cutting holes into an alumin draw thing and used patch cables to get the ports into the back. this is probably an easier time lmao
I got in on the first batch, and can confirm, it effectively works identically to the real thing. Zero complaints. I'm constantly blown away by it. It's a amazing value.
They usually go after the distributors, not the players, especially for older games. That recent lawsuit with that dumb streamer is another story, that guy was streaming Switch games before release AND distributing roms and emulators as well as instructions to play the games early.
I got one from the first batch, delivered to the UK in under a week and have been loving it the last couple of months. NeoGeo has been one of my main played systems/cores as I couldn't afford one as a kid. I've gone down a real retro rabbit hole off the back of Mister with a PVM CRT, original controllers and even a lightgun. Taki has done great thing lowering the price of entry.
10:00 "And we are away, playing one of my all-time favourites... unlicensed Nintendo game." Nintendo lawyers: "You ever dance with the devil in the pale moonlight?"
MiSTer with a nice RGB or S-Video CRT is a thing of absolute beauty, one of those rare occasions where a piece of hardware is basically perfect if you are someone who loves retro games, especially if like me, you love the classic art and music in video games, and it's flawlessly presented on MiSTer and a CRT TV or Monitor, OLED can look amazing too when using scanlines and integer scaling.
David got a couple of things wrong. The I/O Board doesn't have a power button, so you'd have to use some sort of external solution, like a Wi-Fi outlet or some sort of switch. Also, it's not compatible with all cases. The layout isn't the exact same, so you'd need to get a case that was designed with the Mister Pi in mind, like Todd from RetroFrog's case. I got mine a few weeks ago and it's been great so far. Glad Mister is getting cheaper.
He's probably basing that information from personally owning the Mister Addons setup, their current revision of IO direct boards changes the Reset button to act as a soft power switch when it is powered by USB C adapter. Not sure if that's the case since I didn't see the barrel U-connector and it's hard to see but doesn't look to be an IO direct board at the start of the video , but that's my current setup and that's how it works.
I actually would really like to see FPGAs become common addons to computers similar to how GPUs now are. It would obviously be useful for emulation and I would love to see it put to use in a regular computer and not just a retro appliance, but it could be more useful in other senses as well. I mean what if you were a video content provider and you wanted to use a new encoding scheme like AV2. If the FPGA was big enough you could basically just program the FPGA on the system and now you would get hardware encoding. It could also be used by CPUs to drop support for older instruction sets. They could just move it to the FPGA for the 1% of users who still might use it.
@@a11aaa11a well considering AV2 is still in development I have no idea. FPGAs would have to be sold on very different specs though. Basically the number of logic cells.
Look into the MISTer. It's basically a hardware level emulator. Instead of emulating in software, it emulates the OG hardware in classic gaming consoles. It's the most accurate way to play games from n64 and back.
An FPGA is essentially a programable chip (FPGA stands for Field Programmable Gate Array, it's what people use when prototyping hardware in many fields, because it allows you to change the chip at a hardware level on the fly). The way you use that in this case is you can tell it to act exactly like old console hardware, meaning perfect emulation because it's essentially doing with the electric current exactly what the old game console would have done.
Yeah, it would have taken 5 seconds to say it's a retro console emulator that's hardware based. Would have explained it to the general viewership, not the 5% of the audience that are diehards for this kind of tech.
Yeah it sold out immediately. First run that makes sense, but once the word gets out and he gauges demand, hopefully he can keep it in stock a bit better.
@@Drunken_Horse That was my immediate thought.. but - who knows, man. My gut's leaning toward... The kind of group that "nails it" like this are actually doing what they wish someone else had already, and (probably) 'get' the financial situation of the potential customer base (referencing current price).. If they stick to economies of scale and stay true to the value of their initial release - hopefully, could be cheaper. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@Drunken_HorseHe claims it will actually be $5 cheaper to screw with the companies complaining about his prices being so cheap. Except the board he plans with built in 128mb SDRAM which might be a little more for obvious reasons.
After having 10 arcade machine and 3 pinballs and having consolized over 20 arcade boards to play on my home with direct hdmi boards that connect to those pcbs, i can safely say that mister is the future if you don't have a house and all your hobby is in a storage somewhere waiting to get flooded, catch fire or worse (someone throws it away when you eventually die). I need to convert all my games to mister , then keep just 1 virtual pinball and a sega astro city arcade machine in my home with a mister inside. Time will tell
I like this, but there's something extra special about an OG N64 with a HDMI mod. That absolutely munted controller is half the charm of the device. If you could add a cartridge slot or DVD drive to one of these to read off the original media would make them 100 times cooler IMO, but I understand the difficulties/expense when you can put flash memory on that'll hold thousands of those media formats.
You can use SNAC adapters on Mister to play with original controllers. No lag. And why would you add a drive or cartridge slot when ROMs and ISOs are literally the same game? Theyre both read the same way. Or just rip your games to a PC if you’re that concerned.
How did I forget David is a filthy blended retro gamer, for shame. /s My Mister was bought right before the jacked up prices, so I paid nearly the same for mine, but its crazy now. I barely touch my OG systems now, even with my CRTs. The Mister just outputs perfect RGB and the filters for modern TVs are so nice.
@@Drunken_Horse Have you seen the Game Gear screen replacement video? I think it's David and Dan's first on-screen appearance. It did not go as planned.
They actually do stuff from time to time. Like they made an arcade machine, a smaller pc/console when the Xbox series x was releasing, a bunch of 3rd party consoles from gameboy esk to psp.
The MiSTER is also for those who are crazy by EXACTNESS that would otherwise require the original hardware to achieve. I don't care so much, I just get excited when everyone else gets excited :)
One of my Freshman year CE classes used a full size DE10 board for the lab and they let us keep them, might have to try to make that into a free mister.
FPGAs are the best thing to happen to retro gaming. MiSTer and clones, upscalers like RetroTink, optical drive emulators so you can load games on real hardware with SSDs and SD cards, flash carts, various mod chips that can do things never imagined before...I'm sure there are tons of applications for FPGAs outside of retro gaming too but for retro it's really brought us a golden age. edit: also I'm sure David figured this out after the video but in the N64 core you can disable any of the N64's native graphics filters. I prefer to have the smudge/softening filter turned off, which is less faithful to the original but it looks so much better to my eyes.
It was bold of you to upload a video with emulated Nintendo games. Nintendo's been DMCAing anything lately that even smells like emulating or rooting their hardware
I was just coming to comment on that. RetroGameCorps got channel strikes just for featuring Nintendo games as part of their testing suites for retro emulation hardware.
There are other options to the DE-10 board. I've got the QMTech Mister board, another 'clone' board that's not really a clone like the Mister Pi here. They just share the same FPGA and board size. The QMTech is almost 1/3 of the price of the DE-10 so arguably cheaper than the Mister Pi as well, and stock is refreshed on aliexpress for it regularly. I got the version with the additional ram built in, so no need to mess around with expansion RAM.. and honestly you are going to be buying the extra ram anyway. I don't really care about the console cores, but I do care about some of the more fun stuff like the XT upto 486 PCss it can run, relive the old days of the internet from BBS to the very early days of the internet with Windows 9x without the need of obsolete hardware the size of your desk gathering dust.
I also got the QMTech board with built on SDRAM and analog board/USB hub with case for about $150 a month ago or so. Stock definitely comes back way more often than Takis MisterPi which is only sold in batches right now. The QMTech board plays just as good as my original Mister. Love these cheaper options.
You can get access to more consoles with a refurbished miniPC and a Batocera build... But if you really REALLY want 100% accurate response... man that price is more than fair
When you're at it, why not :) I was never interested in MiSTER because the price is so ridiculous. But as I have stocked up on too many devices, I thought it would be better to proceed with transistor-level hardware emulation.
Yeah, it was supposed to restock at the beginning of October, but that never happened. I just went ahead and got the QMTECH clone instead, and it works perfectly fine.
Actually "sold out" is the default state before the next batch goes on sale, so batch 1 is sold out and batch 2 is coming out sometime shippable before Christmas.
This has been a thing for awhile. I got mine in batch one back on September 4th, and have been using it since mid September. It's pretty great. Still waiting on that batch one shell though.
Retro used to be the original hardware all included. Now it's mostly the controllers to recreate the experience. The N64 controller has those C-keys and fortunately there are modern versions to offer it. It definitely matters what kind of controller one uses for each platform/core, so that is an area where we will still want a "hardware collection" in our retro-life. I have an iCode Spinner on the way in mail, which will make a world of difference for games like Arcanoid. Lightguns and wheels are other examples of what really nails the experience.
Holy crap, the price really is drastically better. Its gonna be hard to keep that in stock for sure. Edit: its already sold out lmao, still sick and glad we have some kind of alternative to the de-10 board
I was one of the lucky ones to get a Batch 1 Mister PI Mega Pack and it is excellent, everything is high quality and I have not had any problems with it whatsoever so ever including cores like the sega saturn and N64 (+ Turbo Core), if you can snag one it’s great value for money ever since I bought it it’s been my most played console by far
I would be wary to anyone looking to buy this. the architecture is just different enough that some of the cores don't work properly. the n64 core has been updated to address this but it's the only one I'm aware of. also there was an issue with the initial runs ram that was both from a qa issue standpoint and also from an architecture issue. The FPGA chip is actually an automotive grade part that is similar but not the one used in the de-10 nano. they are new stock. so far, for the most part, it's a solid alternative if you like to tinker but not for anybody grabbing thier first fpga system when the analogue pocket is far more plug and play and user friendly. Glad david is filling the void in these kinda videos but I miss seeing Emily for the retro stuff. She was super knowledgeable in a way that matched her enthusiasm.
it runs all cores and only had a problem with n64 that has been fixed. the ram issue was also fixed. mister is more user friendly if setup with the right files, if done correctly you just have to run the updater. the menu is better with more features and has more cores with save states imo
@@masterninjahh you want a specific update_all script if you want to not manually pull bios files (david highlighted this issue in the video) but also you have to check the right boxes. a friend of mine bought the taki board recently. he had several issues running cores, including n64. he is a programmer. I'm also in discords that are knowledgeable about fpga's in general and the consensus is "the fpga in the taki board is similar but different enough it shouldn't work out the box like a de-10 nano. so even if they seem to work the reality is it's not a perfect cloned experience so without extensive testing we can't actually claim it is.
11:59 "Wait, this isn't Tetris!" 1996 Nintendo's trick catches someone else. This is why The Tetris Company won't allow Nintendo to rerelease the game under its Western title. Instead, it's on NSO under its original Japanese name 'Panel de Pon'.
Great video thank you! Personally I can't live without some of the perks of emulation like rewind, save states, fast forward, and retro achievements. Not to mention the front end is so hideous on these fpga's compared to a nice attract mode plus frontend. Still very cool from a preservation and accuracy perspective though. Would also love to see a compute module version so it can be cased up in different ways without having a bunch of cables all over the place
Original consoles are to expensive now and too inconvenient to have all of them set up in my opinion. Emulators are okay, but not as simple as having one, appliance like console to play. I find Mister to be a sweet spot where I can have all my retro consoles in one place at a reasonable price. I actually bought an analogue pocket for this purpose first, and got a mister later for the few consoles the pocket doesn't do. Making Mister cheaper and easier just improves this use case.
The consoles themselves aren't all that expensive, the games are. Fortunately basically every console has a mod or flash cart solution. Crazy to say original hardware is too expensive and in the next sentence say you bought an analogue pocket lmao.
I gave up on these products because they are always sold out. I just homebrewed my Wii and thats it. I can play almost all retro games I wanted and Im happy.
we all saw you miss that 1 up lol. I have also never head of this before. that's really freakin cool!! so is it like a replacement for retroarch and the other emulators like it? Like it's own system type of thing? kinda Like you would have a separate PC for doing the recording and your main PC for playing the game. kinda like to get the best outta both worlds?
If you want handheld with a 5.5" OLED 1080p screen and pretty flawless performance up to PS2 , the Retroid Pocket 5 exists. I couldn't justify buying an FPGA Handheld for the same price as a RP5 that can only access up to the same games as a software emulator based handheld that's under 1/3 the price.
Getting more and more tempted with FPGA as the price come down. Software emulation is not bad however, I currently have a pi5 with retro games setup on it and also on my Steam Deck. It plays them farily accurately. But I know people do sware by the fpga system are just more closer to the real deal.
Raspberry Pi don't enforce just the Pi part of the trademark, i'd say any SBC with a similar form factor, SBC on its own is a very generic name, that has tinkering ability and an accessible price point, can be called a Pi, ARM, RISC-V, X86, FPGA, if it runs user defined software and is small enough to hide in a pie, its a Pi.
Neat but it needs a power button instead of using an external power switch kind of an inconvenience. Dont know why they can't just implement it into the design. I know it's a copycat of another board but they they could of still made it better.
Android emulators on phones are very convenient and practical, especially with Samsung Dex. I use it to launch automatically when connected to a display.
A neat piece of tech but for the price I might as well just get something like the Retroid Pocket 5, PS2/Wii era games, OLED screen, and it's a handheld.
For the love of god: please (for all channels that is) could you please use darkmode when showing charts/other information? I'd love to keep my eyesight. :D Pretty please? :)
Hardware emulation is cool but it seems unnecessarily expensive compared to software emulation, which is normally looking and feeling exactly the same. The Analog consoles where you can actually plug in your carts seems more appealing than just a box that you load roms on.
Wonderful I find out about this a day late and everything sold out. Doesn’t everybody have one of these already? I just want one. It’s just getting depressing.
I learned digital circuit design using the de10 in the mid 2010s. Cool seeing it used for this kind of stuff. I wonder if you still can use this pi thing as a drop in with quartus to tinker with HDLs
2:45 That's a JTAG port, used for debugging. You can step through lines of code in the processor, or you can probe individual signals in the FPGA. The DE10 Nano has a JTAG chip built in, so you just need to connect a USB cable to it. The MiSTer Pi requires an external JTAG USB Blaster.
Surprised he didnt know what it was
@@adrianrodriguez-iz1wrmeh random knowledge gaps happen to everybody
@@powuhpenguininc.3095 They dropped the FTDI chip to probably save money.
@@adrianrodriguez-iz1wr Possible he's not 100% sure, and not wanting give wrong information, that one could trackback ones self of ones self give wrong information?, better having it tracked back to a user comment, that not you, lest chance of being fired?
Hire this guy!
He got so many complaints about the name that he ran a poll to change the name before the official release. Despite people voting overwhelmingly against it, he kept the Pi name anyways.
It's kind of a dumb thing to get upset about honestly. The name "Pi" in of itself isn't trademarkable and is used on a swath of SBCs that have very little to do with each other, at this point it's really just shorthand for a kind of SBC of which the MiSTER is one.
@@scheeseman486 And specifically, the kinds of SBC that have a very similar form factor.
@@scheeseman486who gives a shit whether it’s legally trademarkable? The point is the confusion
😂😂😂😂
Because Taki Udon truly belives he can't do no wrong and knows better than everyone. My biggest issue with this project is him, he's known in the SBC community as being arrogant, incredibly biased and always trying to take the credit for products he kinda helped on.
2 years ago, he did a video where he was trying to take credits on the success of the Retroid Pocket 3+ because he gave some suggestions to Retroid for the design of the original Pocket 3 (which has some truly stupid ideas, like putting the Start and Select buttons on the top instead of the front, and the Home button where you put your right hand to actually use the device), while simultaneously trying to distance himself from the shitshow that was the release of the 3, when he teased it a lot on UA-cam before the official reveal, so he was part of the marketing team (and if he truly did create it, the one responsible of the issues), but he doesn't want to admit that, he wants his cake and eat it too. That guy loves to propose something to a company and then acts like he did everything.
Story of my life:
A UA-cam channel features an amazing little piece of retro tech.
I instantly go to the product's site to buy it
It's always sold out with no clear indication of when it's going to restock
Forget it exists
Something better comes out, making the previous product obsolete
Everything repeats all over again
It wasn't even in stock. The Mister Pi is sold in batches! There will be a new batch in the near future. Stay tuned for that.
It's true for many of us I'm sure. And in my case it's for the better.
If I manage to snag one of these retro gaming doodads I usually use it a couple of times, put it aside for a few years then sell it.
It happened with Anbernic handhelds, the OSSC, RPI 4, multiple everdrives etc. I always come back to original hardware.
@@ifrit35I sold a lot of my older game and systems because MiSTer is better.
Yup add me to that list :)
@@astrolemonade349 Didn't know that, but still that doesn't change that I want to buy something I see online only to discover it's sold out (sometimes permanently).
Best thing for most people will be to get one of the ITX expansion boards, lets you fit the mister into a regular PC case, as small as mini-itx. While the small mister cases are the smallest you'll get. they look terrible under the TV, and because wires come out of every side of it, it looks like a plate of spider spaghetti. A nice ITX case and you're rocking a media center like setup for gaming that remains clean.
The Ironclad Mini-ITX I/O boards are getting Mister Pi support this week, that's going to be a game changer for the Mister Pi
my dad is super into the mister ecosystem and he ended up cutting holes into an alumin draw thing and used patch cables to get the ports into the back. this is probably an easier time lmao
Same applies for any RasPi based setup, hey. They're versatile, but they ain't pretty haha
I got in on the first batch, and can confirm, it effectively works identically to the real thing. Zero complaints. I'm constantly blown away by it. It's a amazing value.
That's a JTAG port for debugging.
The video in which David sells his collection is one of my all time favorites. Fortunately, he seems to have found a good alternative.
Be careful showing Mario
Suetendo is always watching
They usually go after the distributors, not the players, especially for older games.
That recent lawsuit with that dumb streamer is another story, that guy was streaming Switch games before release AND distributing roms and emulators as well as instructions to play the games early.
@@RomainDelmaire what about Retro Game Corps?
@@TheMrRadish 100%
He did mention he did backup his games “legally”
@@RomainDelmairelmao tell that to the big house online where Nintendo shut down a beloved melee tournament that went online because of COVID
I got one from the first batch, delivered to the UK in under a week and have been loving it the last couple of months. NeoGeo has been one of my main played systems/cores as I couldn't afford one as a kid. I've gone down a real retro rabbit hole off the back of Mister with a PVM CRT, original controllers and even a lightgun. Taki has done great thing lowering the price of entry.
10:00 "And we are away, playing one of my all-time favourites... unlicensed Nintendo game."
Nintendo lawyers: "You ever dance with the devil in the pale moonlight?"
MiSTer with a nice RGB or S-Video CRT is a thing of absolute beauty, one of those rare occasions where a piece of hardware is basically perfect if you are someone who loves retro games, especially if like me, you love the classic art and music in video games, and it's flawlessly presented on MiSTer and a CRT TV or Monitor, OLED can look amazing too when using scanlines and integer scaling.
I freakin' love when David presents. Such good energy this guy is.
David got a couple of things wrong. The I/O Board doesn't have a power button, so you'd have to use some sort of external solution, like a Wi-Fi outlet or some sort of switch. Also, it's not compatible with all cases. The layout isn't the exact same, so you'd need to get a case that was designed with the Mister Pi in mind, like Todd from RetroFrog's case. I got mine a few weeks ago and it's been great so far. Glad Mister is getting cheaper.
He's probably basing that information from personally owning the Mister Addons setup, their current revision of IO direct boards changes the Reset button to act as a soft power switch when it is powered by USB C adapter. Not sure if that's the case since I didn't see the barrel U-connector and it's hard to see but doesn't look to be an IO direct board at the start of the video , but that's my current setup and that's how it works.
I actually would really like to see FPGAs become common addons to computers similar to how GPUs now are. It would obviously be useful for emulation and I would love to see it put to use in a regular computer and not just a retro appliance, but it could be more useful in other senses as well. I mean what if you were a video content provider and you wanted to use a new encoding scheme like AV2. If the FPGA was big enough you could basically just program the FPGA on the system and now you would get hardware encoding. It could also be used by CPUs to drop support for older instruction sets. They could just move it to the FPGA for the 1% of users who still might use it.
Cost.
I like this conceptually but I'm pretty uninformed in specifics -- how much of an fpga would you actually need to do av2 encoding?
There are many FPGA cards that can slot in PCIE slots just like a GPU.
Fpga is lag less. I have the analogue consoles and have tried side by side with real consoles. No difference. Softwear emulation can't match it
@@a11aaa11a well considering AV2 is still in development I have no idea. FPGAs would have to be sold on very different specs though. Basically the number of logic cells.
1:17 pipe dream. That’s what you’re wanting to say
If one is really, really into vintage systems, it could be a wet dream...
4:34 I am almost five minutes in and still have no idea what this product is, or why David is excited for it 😂
Same here
Look into the MISTer. It's basically a hardware level emulator. Instead of emulating in software, it emulates the OG hardware in classic gaming consoles. It's the most accurate way to play games from n64 and back.
An FPGA is essentially a programable chip (FPGA stands for Field Programmable Gate Array, it's what people use when prototyping hardware in many fields, because it allows you to change the chip at a hardware level on the fly). The way you use that in this case is you can tell it to act exactly like old console hardware, meaning perfect emulation because it's essentially doing with the electric current exactly what the old game console would have done.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MiSTer
America: "But what's an Atari ST??"
Europe:
Yeah, it would have taken 5 seconds to say it's a retro console emulator that's hardware based. Would have explained it to the general viewership, not the 5% of the audience that are diehards for this kind of tech.
Shame there isn't any in stock.
Yeah it sold out immediately. First run that makes sense, but once the word gets out and he gauges demand, hopefully he can keep it in stock a bit better.
@@hi_tech_reptilez he's selling in batches. batch 2 is up next.
Price will go up on 2nd batch no doubt
@@Drunken_Horse That was my immediate thought.. but - who knows, man. My gut's leaning toward... The kind of group that "nails it" like this are actually doing what they wish someone else had already, and (probably) 'get' the financial situation of the potential customer base (referencing current price).. If they stick to economies of scale and stay true to the value of their initial release - hopefully, could be cheaper. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@Drunken_HorseHe claims it will actually be $5 cheaper to screw with the companies complaining about his prices being so cheap. Except the board he plans with built in 128mb SDRAM which might be a little more for obvious reasons.
me watching this video instead of working on my thesis which is creating an FPGA development board
Good luck, BTW! You'll be excellent, I've no doubt.
After having 10 arcade machine and 3 pinballs and having consolized over 20 arcade boards to play on my home with direct hdmi boards that connect to those pcbs, i can safely say that mister is the future if you don't have a house and all your hobby is in a storage somewhere waiting to get flooded, catch fire or worse (someone throws it away when you eventually die).
I need to convert all my games to mister , then keep just 1 virtual pinball and a sega astro city arcade machine in my home with a mister inside.
Time will tell
David is just a joy to watch. You can always tell how passionate he is about the tech (and often tech that I didn’t even know existed!).
@10:12 nice cut, im sure there was some heckles after that blunder
I just managed to get one ordered. Im so hyped.
David shows so much passion about this topic. One of the most knowledgeable person on any single topic I can think of
I like this, but there's something extra special about an OG N64 with a HDMI mod. That absolutely munted controller is half the charm of the device.
If you could add a cartridge slot or DVD drive to one of these to read off the original media would make them 100 times cooler IMO, but I understand the difficulties/expense when you can put flash memory on that'll hold thousands of those media formats.
You can use SNAC adapters on Mister to play with original controllers. No lag. And why would you add a drive or cartridge slot when ROMs and ISOs are literally the same game? Theyre both read the same way. Or just rip your games to a PC if you’re that concerned.
How did I forget David is a filthy blended retro gamer, for shame. /s My Mister was bought right before the jacked up prices, so I paid nearly the same for mine, but its crazy now. I barely touch my OG systems now, even with my CRTs. The Mister just outputs perfect RGB and the filters for modern TVs are so nice.
Well this just made it even harder to get one. I’ve been waiting since the first batch became available.
They're already developing a hand-held Mister, Taki has teased it on his Twitter
More of these kinds of videos please, even if you keep the mullet.
Or the silly beard
Love that retrogaming has become so popular that even LTT channels are featuring it!
Would like to see more vids of upgrading retro systems rather than just emulators though.
@@Drunken_Horse Have you seen the Game Gear screen replacement video? I think it's David and Dan's first on-screen appearance. It did not go as planned.
@@Drunken_Horse This is not an emulator btw
They actually do stuff from time to time. Like they made an arcade machine, a smaller pc/console when the Xbox series x was releasing, a bunch of 3rd party consoles from gameboy esk to psp.
@@YodielandInhabitant710 Hardware emulation is still emulation.
RIP availibility
You can buy it now if you hurry. November 18th
Love longer videos with David like these, I miss it since They're Just Movies ended
i have a raspberry Pi 4 that i put in a mini PS1 case and it has been my Emulation Workhorse for the past few years. it still gets the job done.
The MiSTER is also for those who are crazy by EXACTNESS that would otherwise require the original hardware to achieve. I don't care so much, I just get excited when everyone else gets excited :)
One of my Freshman year CE classes used a full size DE10 board for the lab and they let us keep them, might have to try to make that into a free mister.
FPGAs are the best thing to happen to retro gaming. MiSTer and clones, upscalers like RetroTink, optical drive emulators so you can load games on real hardware with SSDs and SD cards, flash carts, various mod chips that can do things never imagined before...I'm sure there are tons of applications for FPGAs outside of retro gaming too but for retro it's really brought us a golden age.
edit: also I'm sure David figured this out after the video but in the N64 core you can disable any of the N64's native graphics filters. I prefer to have the smudge/softening filter turned off, which is less faithful to the original but it looks so much better to my eyes.
David was one of the best at LTT. Don't worry David. You'll find something that grows with you for sure.
It was bold of you to upload a video with emulated Nintendo games. Nintendo's been DMCAing anything lately that even smells like emulating or rooting their hardware
I was just coming to comment on that. RetroGameCorps got channel strikes just for featuring Nintendo games as part of their testing suites for retro emulation hardware.
@@RedGryz yeah but that was switch. Much more chance of their wrath if youre emulating current gen.
Btw Linus gets that ltt privilege
Thank you letting me know that there is finally a proper OLED screen for the switch lite. New DIY project!! :D
I love takis channel that's so cool that he did this
I watch taki since the dawn of him. crazy he became this legend in the retro gaming space.
1:24 "This is my personal mister"
I thought showing your mister was against TOS?
I'm a proud batch one owner and my goodness, the first batch sold out quick (roughly 5 minutes)
There are other options to the DE-10 board. I've got the QMTech Mister board, another 'clone' board that's not really a clone like the Mister Pi here. They just share the same FPGA and board size.
The QMTech is almost 1/3 of the price of the DE-10 so arguably cheaper than the Mister Pi as well, and stock is refreshed on aliexpress for it regularly. I got the version with the additional ram built in, so no need to mess around with expansion RAM.. and honestly you are going to be buying the extra ram anyway.
I don't really care about the console cores, but I do care about some of the more fun stuff like the XT upto 486 PCss it can run, relive the old days of the internet from BBS to the very early days of the internet with Windows 9x without the need of obsolete hardware the size of your desk gathering dust.
I also got the QMTech board with built on SDRAM and analog board/USB hub with case for about $150 a month ago or so. Stock definitely comes back way more often than Takis MisterPi which is only sold in batches right now. The QMTech board plays just as good as my original Mister. Love these cheaper options.
This is a freaking steal. Holy crap that is so good!
Taki talked about a handheld MiSter. Idk when it's coming or what the details or pricing is, but I believe he still intends to make one.
You can get access to more consoles with a refurbished miniPC and a Batocera build... But if you really REALLY want 100% accurate response... man that price is more than fair
When you're at it, why not :) I was never interested in MiSTER because the price is so ridiculous. But as I have stocked up on too many devices, I thought it would be better to proceed with transistor-level hardware emulation.
You guys chose a 1st party game from *Most Litigous Company* very brave choice
I love the enthusiasm and appreciate the information.
Posted 41 minutes ago.. Everything is already sold out. 😂
Has been for weeks
Yeah, it was supposed to restock at the beginning of October, but that never happened. I just went ahead and got the QMTECH clone instead, and it works perfectly fine.
@@bravedwarf ECC Squad got it 1st, maybe
Actually "sold out" is the default state before the next batch goes on sale, so batch 1 is sold out and batch 2 is coming out sometime shippable before Christmas.
This has been a thing for awhile. I got mine in batch one back on September 4th, and have been using it since mid September. It's pretty great. Still waiting on that batch one shell though.
sold out dont bother
Taki Udon is a gem in the community, just an all around great person
Said no one ever.
Retro used to be the original hardware all included. Now it's mostly the controllers to recreate the experience. The N64 controller has those C-keys and fortunately there are modern versions to offer it. It definitely matters what kind of controller one uses for each platform/core, so that is an area where we will still want a "hardware collection" in our retro-life. I have an iCode Spinner on the way in mail, which will make a world of difference for games like Arcanoid. Lightguns and wheels are other examples of what really nails the experience.
Holy crap, the price really is drastically better. Its gonna be hard to keep that in stock for sure. Edit: its already sold out lmao, still sick and glad we have some kind of alternative to the de-10 board
I absolutely love that tiny fan :3
I was one of the lucky ones to get a Batch 1 Mister PI Mega Pack and it is excellent, everything is high quality and I have not had any problems with it whatsoever so ever including cores like the sega saturn and N64 (+ Turbo Core), if you can snag one it’s great value for money ever since I bought it it’s been my most played console by far
These are cool but they are too hard to get. I'll just stick with emulation, the extra 2ms of input lag or whatever will be fine lol.
Thanks for making this even harder to find with this video 👍🏻
i'm actually thinking of selling my analogue dock for this, and possibly my analogue pocket (i barely use it handheld). looks great
pi = Python Interpreter
AAAAAANDDD... it's sold out.
I would be wary to anyone looking to buy this. the architecture is just different enough that some of the cores don't work properly. the n64 core has been updated to address this but it's the only one I'm aware of. also there was an issue with the initial runs ram that was both from a qa issue standpoint and also from an architecture issue. The FPGA chip is actually an automotive grade part that is similar but not the one used in the de-10 nano. they are new stock.
so far, for the most part, it's a solid alternative if you like to tinker but not for anybody grabbing thier first fpga system when the analogue pocket is far more plug and play and user friendly.
Glad david is filling the void in these kinda videos but I miss seeing Emily for the retro stuff. She was super knowledgeable in a way that matched her enthusiasm.
it runs all cores and only had a problem with n64 that has been fixed. the ram issue was also fixed. mister is more user friendly if setup with the right files, if done correctly you just have to run the updater. the menu is better with more features and has more cores with save states imo
@@masterninjahh you want a specific update_all script if you want to not manually pull bios files (david highlighted this issue in the video) but also you have to check the right boxes. a friend of mine bought the taki board recently. he had several issues running cores, including n64. he is a programmer.
I'm also in discords that are knowledgeable about fpga's in general and the consensus is "the fpga in the taki board is similar but different enough it shouldn't work out the box like a de-10 nano. so even if they seem to work the reality is it's not a perfect cloned experience so without extensive testing we can't actually claim it is.
I love David, but the first thumbnail was really cool if anyone was keeping track
11:59 "Wait, this isn't Tetris!"
1996 Nintendo's trick catches someone else. This is why The Tetris Company won't allow Nintendo to rerelease the game under its Western title. Instead, it's on NSO under its original Japanese name 'Panel de Pon'.
“PS3 is retro” oh god I’m so old
Crazy that it came out 18 years ago
In some European countries, the PS# is now legally allowed to both drink and drive (While not at the same time)
Great video thank you! Personally I can't live without some of the perks of emulation like rewind, save states, fast forward, and retro achievements. Not to mention the front end is so hideous on these fpga's compared to a nice attract mode plus frontend. Still very cool from a preservation and accuracy perspective though. Would also love to see a compute module version so it can be cased up in different ways without having a bunch of cables all over the place
Seems like an awesome little mashine for old school fighting game emulation and tournaments, depending on the latency
Original consoles are to expensive now and too inconvenient to have all of them set up in my opinion. Emulators are okay, but not as simple as having one, appliance like console to play. I find Mister to be a sweet spot where I can have all my retro consoles in one place at a reasonable price. I actually bought an analogue pocket for this purpose first, and got a mister later for the few consoles the pocket doesn't do. Making Mister cheaper and easier just improves this use case.
batocera on a pi is the way to go for emulation (non fpga) these days.
The consoles themselves aren't all that expensive, the games are. Fortunately basically every console has a mod or flash cart solution. Crazy to say original hardware is too expensive and in the next sentence say you bought an analogue pocket lmao.
I gave up on these products because they are always sold out. I just homebrewed my Wii and thats it. I can play almost all retro games I wanted and Im happy.
I think you were looking for 'Fever Dream'
I absolutely love the energy of David and his way of presenting things!
came from another shortcircuit video and this is way louder
we all saw you miss that 1 up lol. I have also never head of this before. that's really freakin cool!! so is it like a replacement for retroarch and the other emulators like it? Like it's own system type of thing? kinda Like you would have a separate PC for doing the recording and your main PC for playing the game. kinda like to get the best outta both worlds?
If you want handheld with a 5.5" OLED 1080p screen and pretty flawless performance up to PS2 , the Retroid Pocket 5 exists. I couldn't justify buying an FPGA Handheld for the same price as a RP5 that can only access up to the same games as a software emulator based handheld that's under 1/3 the price.
David giving me Valtteri Bottas vibes.... RIP
🤨@@fauxtool952
Valterri testing bike tech on short circuit when ?
RIP? He's alive...
I honestly wish barrel jacks for power were still a thing. Usb-c wears out with plug/unplug cycles so fast. BARREL JACK IS FOREVER
The QMTech “clone” DE10 board uses barrel jack. I love it.
Getting more and more tempted with FPGA as the price come down. Software emulation is not bad however, I currently have a pi5 with retro games setup on it and also on my Steam Deck. It plays them farily accurately. But I know people do sware by the fpga system are just more closer to the real deal.
Taki ALREADY HAS plans for fpga handhelds, so you only need to wait.
Raspberry Pi don't enforce just the Pi part of the trademark, i'd say any SBC with a similar form factor, SBC on its own is a very generic name, that has tinkering ability and an accessible price point, can be called a Pi, ARM, RISC-V, X86, FPGA, if it runs user defined software and is small enough to hide in a pie, its a Pi.
Well, it is not just half the price, you still would want to get a good I/O board. But anyway, It is really worth it.
If you have a 3d printer you can also find a bunch of stl files for the case.
Man, I saw this and thought we were getting a special guest star Emily video.
I love David doing the retro videos though.
Neat but it needs a power button instead of using an external power switch kind of an inconvenience. Dont know why they can't just implement it into the design. I know it's a copycat of another board but they they could of still made it better.
Just grab a cheap WiFi/BT outlet. I use these for mine and just use my phone to turn on my Misters.
ok.. i really wish the OEM's would support this.. games need to be preserved! #OneBoxToPlayThemAll
Android emulators on phones are very convenient and practical, especially with Samsung Dex. I use it to launch automatically when connected to a display.
A neat piece of tech but for the price I might as well just get something like the Retroid Pocket 5, PS2/Wii era games, OLED screen, and it's a handheld.
Love the Sega Master System design of the packaging.
Another taki udon W
Not that i expecteed any less from him
Still waiting for the LTT team to come up with a Cream-Pi micro computer
For the love of god: please (for all channels that is) could you please use darkmode when showing charts/other information? I'd love to keep my eyesight. :D Pretty please? :)
there will be a small point in time when everything is type C.... and in that blissfull moment of harmony, everything will be right!
David needs to host more.
Hardware emulation is cool but it seems unnecessarily expensive compared to software emulation, which is normally looking and feeling exactly the same.
The Analog consoles where you can actually plug in your carts seems more appealing than just a box that you load roms on.
I miss Anthony
I was having serious Adam Sandler flashbacks every time David said "mister." 😂 MEESTA MEESTA!
I feel like a few times a year there're new retro consoles all in one looking ahh and it's starting to get under my skin.
I've been waiting for this to get into the Mister ecosystem. Too bad it's been sold out every time I look at it. Maybe next year...
"Mister PI that's my name. That name again is Mister PI:"
Wonderful I find out about this a day late and everything sold out. Doesn’t everybody have one of these already? I just want one. It’s just getting depressing.
Pluffe "are you too hairy"
Me: no
P: "Ad for man scaped"
M: ah
Would be nice to see a video of the PSP and what upgrades or mods that can be done with it.
I learned digital circuit design using the de10 in the mid 2010s. Cool seeing it used for this kind of stuff. I wonder if you still can use this pi thing as a drop in with quartus to tinker with HDLs
Just needs an external USB Blaster, but otherwise it's pretty much the same as the DE10-Nano.