MOOG Reviews His MY09 Subaru Forester XT
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- Опубліковано 6 сер 2012
- Moog finally gives us his official opinion on his Subaru Forester...
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Song at the end is called 'The Pursuit Of Speed' by MOOG and is available on iTunes
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This doesn't sound like Subaru problems, but rather modern car problems.
haha, no joke.
Yup I have almost the same problems in my Mazda 6
***** It's called 'Luxury' No more support for us sports car guys.
*****
actually a digital speedo is in fact more accurate than a mechanical.
that's exactly what i was thinking. i cant bare the idea of having to live with a modern car
You can tell which of the two are the cinematographers, just by watching their solo videos.
Moog: Cool shots, transitions, drone footage.
Marty: One take go pro.
well this mighty car mods is suppose to be about cars... which Marty has much better taste so... whatever
Moog is the artist and Marty is the engineer so it makes perfect sense
*crane footage.
Watching this 11 years later makes this video so much funnier 😂
If it can detect wight on the seat it should let the passenger operate the gps.
+faizan joyia (mac man)
If only it was able to establish if the passenger is actually the person operating it.
;)
+faizan joyia (mac man) It's an easy fix moving the ground wire.
that's what I thought as well.
omg. Problem solved.
The car was beeping because it was swearing after all the things you said about it lol
Wasn't the Forrester marketed as an "off road" vehicle.. Thats why its high and the suspension isn't like a race car..
Yep. Have taken an older model all the way to the top of Fraser Island, I don't get this rant either. I've had the XT, it's not a track weapon, it's a fast SUV for those that need to carry stuff but also want a bit of performance.
8 minutes of yelling. Damn son.
"The Pursuit Of Speed" By MOOG. Available on iTunes. Link in description.
I used hate subis, then while looking for a new car, I test drove one and liked how it ran and handled, it took me years to accept how it looked, but after beating the cap out of it, I found them to be a great practical car. I now have another new outback and love it. Still have the old forester to.
+DayRider76 They just work...
Welcome brother.
They (used to be, at least) a function over form car. I've owned 3 Foresters, unstoppable if you accept their limitations.
@@morosis82 I just rebuilt the heads gaskets on my old subi. Runs great. Love that old car. Just had the newer one out in the sticks, fishing. I drive it places you will never take a different family car. I want to get a hot rod one now.
I just turned 412,000 miles on my 2003 Forester....7th Subie since 1984
the old lady that pulls up next to moog at 5:00 thinks he's a spastic when he opens his door, shuts it and then is talking to himself. then she says something about him :D lol
The accelerator being ahead of time; it was designed for a jedi. Any decent jedi needs a good second of buffer time to comp for the force.
This is under rated
When I'm bored in the office, videos of Moog reviewing cars will definitely cheer me up.
+Justin Jovellanos
No offence but....
" Hide yo' kids.... hide yo wife..."
+ShaneyPo0 HA!!!
my car sounds like a toy when i put it in reverse
btw... for the gps thats connected to the handbrake... you can cut the wire and connect it to the positive wire from the sigaretlighter.. than the gps thinks its on the handbrake because its getting a pulse.. but you can still keep on driving...
And do the same to the seat belts
To an unrelated question, is it possible to increase the power on the landcruiser prado diesel j150 and if so what should i change that won't require expensive part mods
after watching your video on this car i went and bought one as my first car and all i can say is i love it
the only problem with this review. Every modern car has these problems.
so true
That's why it'll be 90s tuners for me for quite a while
This episode is the perfect example of why Moog is just awesome.
Moog uses the best analogies that I've ever heard.
I love Moog's comments,it's so funny, thumbs up
I know this video was published a long time ago but there is something which Moog said that bothered me and it's about the stock ride height. Why would he complain about that? It's an SUV, not a sedan. You can't expect it to be low like the S15.
height is ok for me, is accesible to all terrains and is fun for a suv, but the softness its ridiculus the suspension is crap make me feel insecure in high speeds.
It's not though the Forester was always a wagon until this model, which is kind of a hybrid wagon/suv
Yes and no
My brother had a 04 forester and I have a 2010 forester and they handle like completely different vehicles.
Yes the new body shape is a big higher but the stock suspension is not what it needs to be.
A stiffer rear sway bar is a must. An sti impreza one ftw.
Maybe do the pedders springs
I wouldn't go as low as moog in mine tho for sure because like you said it's an SUV.
I sold my Legacy wagon and bought the Forester because it is as fun to drive but I can drive over more stuff.
Man, i just bought sh and i also have a lifted (1inch) pajero pinin (known as io, shogun). Pinin has common kayaba all round (from io on the front and old pajero 1 on the back. Stock springs). Pajero has better dumping and steering than forester. I'm thinking about coilovers for sh
being unable to do a timing belt job on my 1995 Lancer GSR EVO 3. Having to pull the engine out to do it is, a pain IN THE ASS
Just bought one. Can't wait to get it moving quicker!
I dislike car reviews, but this one was awesome! Hilarious.
Thanks for the whole MCM, too! Keep up the great job!
Delayed throttle response sounds like electronic throttle and some nasty super-eco-green emissions settings to kill NOx or whatever. So I'm very curious to know if the new ECU flash fixed that particular problem?
Oh and irritating things on my Honda S2000 (which I'm sure Moog will rant about at some stage)
1) yep, headlight washers... now connected to windscreen washers on AP2 cars
2) damn roof won't go up unless you're stopped AND handbraked -- wonderful when you're in slow, moving traffic and it starts raining. Seriously, the roof isn't going to get ripped off at 30km/h.
But that's about all I have to complain about, which speaks volumes. It's been a fantastic car otherwise.
What sucks about recent cars? They have their own brains which takes all the driving fun out the windshield and smashed by the wheels. Yes, self parking cars will scrape your parking skills when frequently used; what would happen to you if you have to drive one that doesn't park itself? Cruise control can get you drowsy; and if you want to go faster, you can't until you hit a button or worse, without the button you have to step on the freaking brake pedal. What's next, self driving cars? That sucks! Might as well just take the bus and pay a little for the driver rather than the already rich oil companies only. I have nothing against Subarus, I actually dream on having one. Its just that some of these "innovations" are made to create Homo Dumbpiens, and I did not name all of them because this could get four times longer.
Spot on. I couldn't have ranted any better. "Homo Dumbpiens" priceless.
I have a '93 micra Super S with chopped lowering springs, stock dampers, a white bonnet covered in peeling black paint, a worn ball joint at the front, a screeching clutch release bearing, a stereo that whines with a pitch that increases with engine revs, no spare wheel or parcel shelf, front fogs wired seperately to a switch in dash with coils of household electrical wire and brake disks at the front so thin I swear the flex when I brake hard. I love it.
I have a MY11 Forester XT and the beeping problem was addressed on that model year by using a more subtle ding. I have also opted out for the subaru mesh grill as well.
My 04 forester doesn't do any of these things
dj red hare aus because it's a much better vehicle
Neither does my 02 lol
Just blows head gaskets
Neither does my 05 😂
Nor my 09
Please make more reviews :')
Does anyone know where to get that front bumper? I have a 09 Subaru Forester XT and I want that bumper he has
I had a 01 gc8 for 12 years and had no complaints. except for all the times I blown head gaskets, had to install new timing belts, water pump, and wheel bearings twice. I had a evap solenoid go out and had to find a mechanic that was brave enough to try and fix it. The rear brakes would often have to be replaced. O2 sensor for the catalytic converter would throw trouble codes every 6 months.
Maybe the tune-in-a-box caused the accelerator issue
It's a common problem with drive-by-wire throttle. It's been improved on later model cars though
Sounds like moog really loved that forrester
Haha yeah
the seat belt beeping can be turned off by turning the key into on but dont start then click the seatbelt in and back out within 30 seconds then turn the key off and it will do the normal 3 beeps when it starts but wont keep warning you as you keep driving
is there a list of parts that you put on this car anywhere? thanks
Everybody is arguing over cars and I'm just here looking at his Metallica shirt
haha yeah I noticed too
things that suck about my 2005 Nissan Micra:
1. it needs AC
2. it looks like an upturned arse cheek. its ridiculous.
does that forester have electronic thottle control? because if it does the make the response time for it sluggish purposely.
Which year Forester do you have? Is it stock height right now or has it been lowered (which is why you're raising)??
I'm looking to get a 2nd gen forester xt soon and am curious as to what other owners are doing to theirs .
I drive a 2003 Pontiac Grand Am. I don't even need to list off the reasons why it's crap. You just know.
"They are ugly. ALL OF THEM" lmao
This review was awesome, you should do more reviews when you can.
where did you buy your ezy flash tune ?
it didn't pass the shoe test :D
moog did your s15 come factory with gps, didn't think so. Stop being salty!
your trying to compare a older car to a newer car. Apples to oranges.
Factory GPS is usually pretty shit, thats not a bad thing
what is the name of moogs track at the end of the video? :)
there is actually a way to get rid of that beep from the seatbelt thing if you like put the car in the on position, and plug and unplug the seatbelt thing like 30 times or something, there is a write up somewhere
fucking hate drive by wire
supercowmoo3 im happy i converted mine back to cable... i had a drive-by-wire system but even vauxhall sells a convert kit with an ECU software removal for the DBW.. my car would not respond to the pedal one morning when i needed my car...
My dad had one of those systems in his 06 Holden commodore, and it was always playing up. The ironic thing is that he sold his 95 Holden caprice V8 (High performance Australian luxury car) to by the commodore because he wanted something that was, and I quote "less technical and with less electronic crap to go wrong". Me and my mum still laugh about it.
love the videos... have to stop watching unless you stop yelling
What is the song at the end called?
What’s the front bumper called where can gry
If it's such a shitty car, why did you buy it?
+JustinFH
Marty bought it for him.
He should import a stb sti from japan
Marty bought it for him because he lost the Subaru vs Nissan challenge.
And he does like it but still likes nissans more.
Luckily he has his mint 180sx
"when i was accelerating towards a corner"... who ACCELERATES towards a corner...?
Race car drivers
I love the gram lights 57xtremes, those look awesome, but the problems that he mentions are present in a lot of modern vehicles.
moog should review more cars. im loving this video style.
Subaru is ugly? Coming from a Honda owner, also I bet my 560hp subaru can cream ur crap Honda Any day!
I think moog was talking about its looks not performance, subarus maybe fast but most are fucking ugly
Yeh good point but the 2004 sti sedan with a body kit is pretty darn nice! 😃
faraz Zubair any year impreza imo is good looking
faraz Zubair dude i bet my 0hp bicycle could beat his crap honda
by the way ALL LEGACY WRX AND FORESTER ARE REALLY GOOD LOOKING
I agree with you subarus look awesome!
the only thing that suck about this car is you driving it.
not nice
Wich episode is it? I havent seen the bet going on.
This was a great laugh :D especially the airbag sensor and "it keeps accelerating" segments
I too went from a S15 R to a Forester XT. I couldn't go back now, even though the S15 is the best looking shape I've ever seen. I'm 31 and need more comfort. I will miss my S15 though.
nice rant. interesting end........ so how is the power delivery? is it easy to mod and get decent power?
Love your review style.
What do you think of the XV Crosstrek?
I would love to see your review on it.
My gas pedal does the same thing....super delayed response. Is there a way to fix this?
Hey Moog, I want to support you're music, but I dont want to support itunes.
You have any other option? ( not the cd option.. )
The added spring clearance is good for snow and offroad in alot of places.
thats kingston st in newtown, you guys live around there?
whats the song at the end of the video?
That seat belt beeper annoyed me so much i had to find it & remove it! It is possible to do this the flashing warning light still works.
This is a pretty fair review, but, I think a lot of those complaints can be fixed (and he already has fixed some of them). I'm hoping that Subaru has managed to fix a lot of these issues in their newer cars, because I'm intending on getting one soon (not a Forester XT though).
what's the best place in syd to mod your subaru ?
How is the carstereo in this? Heard alot on forums they arent to great..
I bought a 2012 WRX for a daily shortly after Moog got this Forester and I've been extremely happy with my purchase! I must admit the passenger seat belt alarm is very annoying though LOL.
9 years later this has come on handy for me 😂
yeah right..
auto or manual?
did you alter the tyre/rim sizes since the refit?
i have always hated my xt when i push it , its electronic stability and trartion control systems are scary if ya want to be in outright control in critical situations.
the suspension is its greatest downfall. it needs a lot more rebound compression and firmer springs...
Ok better, but there was still various models of WRX and STi models? Any favorite years?
Is the "laggy/delayed" throttle response a common problem with the Foresters Drive by wire? Or did moog just have a faulty/bad one? I am considering a Forester, but having a delayed throttle would annoy me too much.
I have a 2010 and it did have a bit of delay compared to my old Legacy for sure but not as bad as he experiences.
If it's really the car you want just spend a couple of hundred on a throttle upgrade after you get it.
A lightweight pulley and throttle body spacer makes a big difference.
Bought a MY09 XT last month. Have not experienced the throttle response.issue.
how did you get this car in a manual
best video you made yet mate
So when you drag race it you gotta hit the gas at the 1st beep out of 3 just to get a legit start?
😂 I own a 2008 Forester and mine is the same story.I'm the second owner and mine is missing the front left splash guard, the front right wheel is the same style but a different finish cause it's actually from an outback, the rear seats have been reapolstered, the sunroof is cracked but doesn't leak, the paint on the outside doesn't match exactly and one or two panels have been repainted with a terribly matched paint job, the bulbs for the headlights were not installed correctly and were pointed towards the sky, and before I changed the air filter when you started the cars heater it all smelled like weed. Gotta love that second hand subie life
Yes, and the can in the video is a 180sx model. When people say S13, they are referring to the Sylvia model.
On my friends MY11 STI the seatbelt sensor beeping could be disabled by repeatedly clicking the seatbelt something like 50 times or around there.
Whats the song at the end?
where can i find that front lip?
I agree with the Moog somewhat, I owned a bugeye wrx and hated the look, but it completely grew on me and I now love the bugeye look!!
ya my impreza does that acceleration thing too. when i step on the clutch the rpm's will continue to climb for another half a second. it can get really annoying when im trying to just cruise along.
hey guys i was just wondering where you got the body kit for this from
ME TOO
What do these two think of the 2008 Legacy Outback XT I wonder?
I have the exact same car and hate/love the same things about it. The first time I activated the windscreen washers after washing the car I almost died! My BRZ does the same thing, disconnected the jets when in installed my FMIC.
the airbag for the passenger seat can be calibrated. Ive done it before at toyota and i think that it takes (40kg?/80lbs) to trip it.
Moog which would you take a acura or a subaru
For the beeper...Just open up the little thingy where your seatbelt clips and remove the sensor....Did that in my Sienna and it worked!
As a fellow Subaru owner I can only agree on most points, especially the thing with the seat belt..
can you cut the wire under the seats that beep when someone sits on the seat. it wont beep then, maybe?
What year forester is it?
where is the feori ? that is what i want to know
For the handbrake, just do like the Corvette guys do with CAGS, fool the ECU. Relocate the switch and force it to act as if the brake was on. Make it reversible so you can undo it for inspection. You can do the same with the seat belt or just keep the belt buckled.
How about a MCM short episode about how to deactivate the bleeping alarm bits from the fusebox? (Like I've done on my Chevy Silverado whenever I want to wax the truck and play the stereo whilst I work) ??
My 09 civic si sedan locks all the doors when I go over 10km/h or so, which is fine. The problem is that when I stop the car it only unlocks the driver door. EVERY TIME i have passengers they all get locked in. Plus the doors refuse to stay open. They either close on my leg or I have to hold them open with my foot while I climb out .