Kargyraa Throat Singing To Fry Scream Tutorial
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- Опубліковано 6 тра 2021
- Here you have a simple way of how to use your kargyraa (throat singing) to get a fry scream!
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Thank you so much and thank God that I found someone who teaches good fry screaming, not just false chord false chord false chord
That's why the most of my newer videos is dedicated to the fry scream :D I am happy you found here some stuff that you like, thanks for the comment!
Seems like a very good explanation. Thanks bro
You are the best channel here on what you do. 🤝🏼
Thank you!!! It means a lot to read it :D
Cool 🤘🤘🤘
i cannot for the love of god learn to do this ... i have been screaming for 2 years , i've picke up false cord really really fast like a week or two but i cannot for the love of god wrap my head around fry i have tried every single youtube video , method , tip and tricks and nothing works
Hello, I've seen your email and sent you some stuff!
I have the same problem, could you share some of the info with me possibly?
Keep trying. I still am not good on it due to my vocal cord control not being where it's at. Keep on it man. I took a break for a month to allow my voice to recover 💯. I'm still trying to hit a good scream.
When you transition over to the fry scream, do you still feel the vibration in your false chords that you get when doing Kargyraa or does that drop away?
Hi! It's still there but the sound get's a little bit closer to the soft palate. It's also much lighter and just a little bit thinner like I went closer to the mix voice from a chest voice but the placement for engaging the false vocal folds is still there.
BUT in the beginning of the practice it can be pretty confusing because the distortion wants to "disappear" or it feels like the kargyraa and the fry scream are a totally different things and it's impossible to get a smooth transition (I was there), so it's something that requires some patience and observation.
Bardzo ciekawy temat i myśle że go całkowicie wyczerpałeś, mega fajny materiał! Chętnie się jeszcze za to dzisiaj zabiore jak będę miał chwile, a kiedyś wspominałeś coś o Fry Screamie na fałszywych strunach. Mógłbyś omówic ten temat? Mega mnie to ciekawi i pewnie wiele innych osób też. I przy okazji jak przykładowo brzmi taki wokal, moim zdaniem słychac go np. w Carcassie, czy nowszym metalu jak Black Dahilia Murder. Oczywiście mogę sie mylić :P pozdro!
Siema, dzięki! Za tydzień pojawi się wersja po polsku.
W gruncie rzeczy to jest materiał na temat tego jak użyć fałszywych strun do frya :D
Są też inne filmiki, które w ostatnim czasie wrzuciłem na temat fry screamu.
m.ua-cam.com/video/fcHj2OK6vQE/v-deo.html
m.ua-cam.com/video/zllw4Dkfx74/v-deo.html
Chodzi głównie o te momenty kiedy pokazuję dodawanie chrypy do fry noise.
@@sibilaextremevocal właśnie podejrzewałem że z dzisiejszego filmu przykład z fry noisem po dodaniu kargyryy to właśnie to o czym mówie, bo słychać że głośniejszy, bardziej false cordowy ale stwierdziłem że się mylę :D niemniej jednak dzięki za odpowiedź no i miłość skurwysyny!
Jest zdecydowanie głośniejszy niż klasyczny fry i łatwiej nim wykonywać całe słowa itd.
Miłość Skurwysyny!
i came here to figure out what this sound i can make... and i think its neither now XD great explanation tho
If you need exercises to learn the kargyraa and fry scream independently from each other, check out the playlist "fry scream" and the tutorial below:
ua-cam.com/video/J_K4dmcK1yc/v-deo.html
I think it will really help to get a fry scream man! can you tell me how many times i need to practise this..?
Awesome! You can practice even a few minutes (even 10-15) everyday, after some warm up :)
If you want and are able to practice for longer, then of course you can go for it too. Everything depends on the comfort (if it hurts, then don't practice too long, work on a precision even a 5 minutes a day).
@@sibilaextremevocal Thanks dude...you're cool..
Okay, imagine the kargyraa or over tone singing, but push it harder, and louder making it tighter, thats my problem, just yelling in general, learned the throat technique when i was younger, and it just integrated itself into me trying to musically yell, and its also been a problem just trying to sing cleaner with a louder voice, and its just been a little frustrating because its integrated itself naturally like that.. Its probably not good screaming/yelling like that but ive been doing it for so long, it doesnt hurt, or irritate my throat how it should because its such a tight oscillation. How can i unlearn it? I stopped for a whole year hoping my throat would like forget how to do that but its just natural.
Hi! I've had a similiar issue but with using the grit for singing - I was using way too much distortion, but that's how my voice adapted to raspy vocals naturally and it was pretty hard to unlearn it at first.
What helped me was to practice with the vocal fry (smooth dynamic transitions between the vocal fry and clean voice through my range) and combining it later with the compression. It was useful for finding a little bit more gentle raspiness and to add the heavier one (that I learnt from the throat singing) if necessary.
When it comes to a kargyraa to fry scream transition, amplifying the sound is not the best foundations (for some people it's helpful but from what I observe for the most, it's not). What works better is to take your kargyraa to the point where your voice is breaking, but without "falling" into the falsetto.
I think that I show such a transition in this video:
ua-cam.com/video/w-Z1bWXEe0s/v-deo.html
And this one:
ua-cam.com/video/u0CCwBMwtoE/v-deo.html
If your voice distorts when you try to sing higher, it can mean to you push too hard with your chest voice, so learning how to use head voice or mix voice or how to engage the upper resonators for singing with the chest voice (singing on masque) can be very helpful!
If you had more questions or needed more details, feel free to write to me on email - xvocalcenter@gmail.com - I'll do my best to help!
Does it get louder as you make the transition?
In my case, yes but it can be on the same level of volume.
I think I get it but Im sounding like False Chord I think
If false chord is your "default technique", then your voice can automatically switch for it instead of the fry scream. I went through it a few years ago when I started to practice various ways of achieving fry scream (vocal break, kargyraa, distortion etc.).
feel a little tenderness in my throat after trying to go into the higher scream with this technique, is that normal? It feels completely different from my normal false chord screams.
Hi Brandon! Fry scream engaging false vocal folds is something different than "pure" false chord screaming, because when it comes to the fry scream, vocal folds (although being more relaxed than while singing) are closed and they are not when you do "pure false chord scream/ growl".
False cord is not engaging true vocal folds. Fry scream makes vocal folds vibrate in a very fast amd chaotic way, they are relaxed but closed at the same time. That's the major difference between those 2 techniques.
That's why probably they feel different for you :)
If "tenderness" means a little bit of "warmth", then it can be pretty normal, but if you feel any kind of irritation, tickling, inflamation etc., than it's not healthy.
It would be easier to tell more about your technique so if you have any recording, feel free to send me it on email - xvocalcenter@gmail.com - I will do my best to help (for free)!
This is the once vocal octave I cannot sing in anymore. I can do about everything else but this scream style, and I hate not being able to anymore.
I practiced with quite a few people that did it effortlessly, took a long break and couldn't get it back. It's possible but requires patience, finding out what methods work best which might be challenging at first. Feel free to check the fry scream playlist on this channel.
A wiesz może jak uzyskać wibrato w głosie? Podoba mi się jak śpiewa Krzysiek z Nocnego Kochanka i chciałbym się trochę podszkolić w tym temacie.
Siema, jest kilka sposobów na to jak uzyskać wibrato, ale trochę trudno mi to wytłumaczyć za pośrednictwem jedynie komentarza. Najprostszy sposób to odpalenie metronomu, np. na 50-60 bpm, zaśpiewanie dźwięku, utrzymanie go i "falowanie" nim do uderzeń metronomu. Każde uderzenie to kolejna "fala", z czasem można, a nawet jest to wskazane podwyższać tempo metronomu oraz "drgań".
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Pozdro!
@@sibilaextremevocal To znaczy, że nie planujesz nic nagrywać na ten temat?
Teraz już planuję :D
@@sibilaextremevocal A mógłbyś mi powiedzieć coś jeszcze o rodzajach vibrata? Ponoć jest krtaniowe i pulsacyjne. Ludzie mówią, że krtaniowe jest jakieś gorsze. I w sumie to jakiej techniki używa Krzysiek?
Siemka, bardzo słabo znam twórczość Nocnego Kochanka, więc trudno mi powiedzieć.
W Complete Vocal Technique jest hammer vibrato, które brzmi jak karabin maszynowy albo koza (seria gwałtownych ataków dźwięku).
Jest też "przeponowe" czyli to pulsacyjne jak mniemam, które powstaje w wyniku pulsującego napinania mięśni odpowiedzialnych za podparcie.
Krtaniowe vibrato powstaje kiedy porusza się krtanią w górę i w dół na przemian podczas trzymania dźwięku.
A jak dodac taki fry scream do spiewu? W sensie ze spiewasz i chcesz zeby wyzsze dzwieki np byly w takim fry screamowym stylu zachrypniete czy cos
Przyda się poćwiczyć np. przejście z czystego głosu do fry'a i z powrotem. Coś w tym stylu np.:
ua-cam.com/video/qfCx8V6fR64/v-deo.html
This is insanely hard for some reason, it always turns into a false chord high
In my case it worked the same for a couple of weeks until I stopped following an automatic habit of breaking into the false chord.
Hm, very strange. For some reason i can go straight to fry scream almost always, but i cant initiate kargyraa every time. Sometimes i just cant do it, my throat feels too dry. I've noticed it usually happens after a meal or after i drink coffee or sth like that. Is this normal?
Hi! Mayby you put too much pressure on your larynx when you start with the kargyraa. It's pretty common and it makes the sound stuck in the throat. Kargyraa sounds rough but is pretty much laid back. What helps is the proper placement for the distortion (a little bit above) the larynx, opened throat (lifted soft palate, no intense pushing from the throat, feeling space and free flow of the sound, comfort) and the support.
Did you try the throat singing tutorial?
ua-cam.com/video/J_K4dmcK1yc/v-deo.html
@@sibilaextremevocal First of all, thank you for a quick reply, it's immensely appreciated. I watched most of your videos, so i guessbi must've stumbled upon that one, sure will check out tommorrow after work.
One funny little thing i found out today while practising is that "kargyraa" can be initiated both from pure false chord and fry engagement. When ivtransition from an exaggerayed sigh,(like you said) it definitely feels more relaxed and open, unlike squeezing it thin through the fry scream :)
Fucking refreshment
Did this one work better? :D From what I observe, the biggest struggle, and I also went through it, is finding the methods that suit the voice best. Once you find them, everything starts to get gradually easier.
@@sibilaextremevocal I’ve been decently proficient at False chord vocals but your kargyrra training has helped it become stronger and fuller. Appreciate your videos so much. BUT I am looking to further my vocal range and attempt vocal fry’s.
Awesome! Feel free to check out the fry scream playlist, there's a LOT of various methods and exercises :)
Od roku się bawię z mongolsim śpiewiem gardłowym i potrafię kargyraa oraz khoomei, ale na boga nie potrafię ogarnąć sygyt, a to jest w sumie najfajniejszy i najzabawniejszy styl śpiewania. Na Boga, jeśli ktoś potrafi zrobić sygyt i mnie nauczyć, to napiszcie w komentarzu, bo potrzebuję wiedzieć. Jedyny gwiżdżący dźwięk wychodzi ode mnie z khoomei, ale to nie jest prawdziwe sygyt. Tak czy siak, masz fajne poradniki sibila, ale jednak nie potrafię za nimi podążać. Cała zabawa z głosem powstaje u mnie od zera i od naśladownictwa dźwięków jakie zasłyszę. Może masz jakieś porady, jak do tego podejść bardziej profesjonalnie lub co robić, abym w przyszłości nie stracił głosu przez głupoty. (btw, potrawisz zrobić krzyk R2D2? ua-cam.com/video/B6mh45mA_JY/v-deo.html&ab_channel=LaurentRIVIERE Ostatnimi czasy znajomi proszą mnię abym robił ten dźwięk i odgłosy orka (czyli inhale scream), które mogę kiedyś przesłać, jeśli kto chętny). Ogólnie przepraszam za biadolenie, ale po paru głębszych jestem
Siema, kargyraa i khoomei są bardzo pomocne również do ćwiczenia chrypy, screamu czy growla bez względu na rodzaj techniki, także spoko, że to umiesz :D
Które poradniki próbowałeś? Może wybrałeś sobie odrobinę za trudne, na kanale jest ponad 100 filmów i są też takie, które przedstawiają prostsze, bardziej podstawowe metody, zwłaszcza te z przed 2020 roku.
R2D2 scream to po prostu bardzo wysoki, skompresowany dźwięk z przesterem, nic trudnego. Często wychodzi wtedy kiedy próbuje się zrobić wysoki false cord scream, ale przy tym angażuje się niepotrzebnie struny głosowe. Ew. wychodzi coś jak kruk albo wokal z AC/DC :D
Inhale nie jest zbyt zdrowy, natomiast o tym pewnie już wiesz.
Komentarze są zawsze spoko, także dzięki!
Pozdro!
What is the intro song?
It's called Monuments Of Flesh by me ex-band Vishurddha.
Get that keyboard out from behind that door!
I did :D It needed to be repaired.
How many decibel do you reach?
It depends what is the distance between my mouth and the microphone :D
Feels like there's some conflicting info out there. When watching RiffShop's video on fry screaming, he says people's problem is often not putting enough tension on their vocal folds. Here Sibila is saying putting too much tension on them also doesn't result in a scream. I guess there's a happy medium or something.
Balance is the key word here. You can check it by yourself if you are able to do fry scream - just scream and start to increase the tension and listen what will happen. :D
oh boy...just don't get it. From throat singing to that airy hhaaaa means throat noise stops, there is no possible way to create both at same time, they are done in different throat positions. I cannot comprehend any of these instructions. Also I am totally incapable to make sounds you make at 6:46-6:48. Another coach told me to do those and I can't, guess he quit...
If you can't make a noise like at 6:46-6:48, then it means you can't do kargyraa, and kargyraa is the key element for this exercise to work :D
Here is a kargyraa tutorial:
ua-cam.com/video/J_K4dmcK1yc/v-deo.html
Remember that there are also other methods for mastering the fry scream - using vocal break, vocal fry and head voice, compression etc.
There is a whole playlist dedicated to fry scream on the channel:
ua-cam.com/play/PL0IFgUhWfXCshVFMId6QEeMMHvze2ETJ9.html
screams are literally impossible to do
step 1. make an impossible sound
step 2. make another impossible sound
step 3. combine the impossible sounds to make a scream
what's even the point of the first 2 steps. i can't do any of this shit.
This tutorial is for the people who CAN do kargyraa and want to use it for learning or improving fry scream. It's also a good part of warm up. There are link to kargyraa tutorial and fry scream tutorials in the description but I guess you didn't look at them.