Ben's snark is the snark of someone who is been dealing with nonsense for a very long time. We can only imagine what sort of idiocy he had to put up with. It is also smart snark.
Guys important information that came up on trial that amber team blocked ! According to JD accountant JD has paid more than $33milion. Breakdown : $7mill tax free ( $14.350 million with tax) + her debts accumulated $13 millions + her authoreny fees +500k. MSM claims that AH declined what she was entitled to which is apparently $33milion. Well JD has paid more than that. If he paid her $33 million, she had to pay her own taxes and her own debts which JD paid! So she did get her entitlement and now is twisting that she declined it! Put it on twitter and other social. She did get her money in snicky way!
Waldman is Johnny's Attorney; therefore, anything that is said publicly is assumed to be on behalf of JD. If he said "In my opinion....", I think the 1st Amendment would have been applicable to him. Just my thoughts from the cheap seats (I'm not an attorney).
I’m a teacher and I know a lot of families who have had to quarantine within their own homes away from other family members. Given the assumed size of any dwelling JD or AH might find themselves in, it is not impossible to comply with the in-person Depo requirement. She just doesn’t want to and she’s using her baby (no surprise) as a shield. “Will no one think of the children!!???!!!” Gasp, horror!
I agree. This is also someone that chose to start the baby process right after the start of and height of covid, as well as shutdowns, quarantining, unknowns, deaths, etc. Why make that choice if it scares you sooo much?
I live for Ben Chew's snark. He successfully wove a sneaky sneaky Pirate's reference into these exhausting emails. I had to look up the word *palaver* and Merriam Webster says: Definition of palaver (Entry 1 of 2) 1a: a long parley usually between persons of different cultures or levels of sophisticationa palaver between foreign ministers b: CONFERENCE, DISCUSSIONa palaver between union leaders 2a: idle talk: Cut the palaver and get down to business. b: misleading or beguiling speech: Don't get taken in by the candidate's palaver. palaver verb palavered; palavering\ pə-ˈla-və-riŋ , -ˈlä- ; -ˈlav-riŋ , -ˈläv- \ Definition of palaver (Entry 2 of 2) intransitive verb 1: to talk profusely or idly 2: PARLEY (: a conference for discussion of points in dispute b: a conference with an enemy) transitive verb : to use palaver to : CAJOLE And I just died 🤣🤣🤣💀☠🏴☠️
Older Germans know that word well, it was used in the past quite regulary for conversations about things that are based on nonsens. Younger Germans will not use that word often, except it is some dialect they talk and it has it as an regular word.
@@nomadicvelocities @kralith interesting! Thanks for sharing - I know english borrows a bunch of words, and it's a shame American dialect just isnt the same imho. I love European vernacular, especially UK (especially especially irish &scotch) turns of phrase. They're extremely expressive and well crafted, especially the insults. Adding palaver to my vocabulary now. I should use words like prattle more often too. They're so much more descriptive
“We’re going to talk about the behavior and that is fair. You are not your diagnosis and shouldn’t be dismissed because of it.” Girl!! As a mental health provider, ❤️ thank you for taking time to send that message!
So Amber was so worried about Covid months before the trial, yet her and her team weren’t wearing masks during the trial seems like she was purposely being difficult. Just more of a reason why she lost.
Oh please Amber is just trying to use Covid procedures to ditch the deposition , and It’s not that deep or complicated put the goddamn mask and be in the room, she can wrap herself in the bubble she can wear bubble suit if she wants , just be there.
Ben Chew's snark is my FAVORITE kind of snark!! I love snark that focuses on valid points and comes with a bit of a sharpened tip, rather than using blame and deflection, and just taking shots at somebody, hoping that one of them will hit the target.
Agreed! You should have to earn your right to be snarky, by laying out a cogent and compelling argument, and then you can sprinkle some snark over the top.
Give me a break. We haven’t seen Amber wear a mask anywhere in public, not in clothing store, not inside grocery store. Of course Amber had a list of demands for JD to pay for. She won’t pay a penny.
Literally. Like she’s so worried about it when her sister and her are out with no masks. But I thought they have toddlers, babies and fetuses. They just want to break them with demands.
I think my biggest problem with this back-forth is that many of us had to go into work every single day even with the pandemic and scrambled to find stable/safe childcare. To hear people complain about “health and safety” when my entire company was able to avoid work-work transmission for years is nauseating.
Fall/winter 2020 I was pregnant and working because I couldn’t afford to leave work. Mind you, I was working at Starbucks, where people were flocking because we were open. I took as many precautions as I could and have not yet caught it. We are still very careful as I have a young toddler. So it’s possible to be careful especially with all the precautions they could have taken
It's all a farce she doesn't give a shit about COVID she just wants to be difficult. I would feel differently about the situation if there weren't a million pics of her before and after trial walking around public spaces without a mask, touching everything, touching her face 🤢. I promise hunny you have a better chance of catching the rona fingering every item you pass at TJ Max than you ever did in a large room with vaccinated people in normal face coverings. I can't stand her
@@mikaplaysgames310 Same in Sweden! No one cared a damn, and our death toll dropped. As we knew from the start, the US told us they'd record EVERY death as a WuFlu death. That alone should have tipped people off that it was a hoax to push pharmaceuticals that are STILL in the experimental stage.
What actually makes me mad is in Elaine's email at 1:24:54, she addresses it to Ben, references a previous email, and sends it "to" everyone involved, instead of just sending it "to" him and then putting the rest in the "cc" line. That can create an enormous reply clusterfuck. Everybody who works in an office knows better than to do that. Or should. It should be noted that actors are often contractually required to attend the premieres of their films at festivals, do press interviews, etc. JD may not have been "filming" per se all the time in Europe, but he was likely no less performing contractually required work. There's a big difference between the two depositions - JD's team didn't submit in advance an extensive laundry list micromanaging team AH's Covid precautions and require prior agreement to every little detail in writing, before agreeing to the deposition. That's exactly what Elaine is doing here. If Ben agreed to any items in her very long and detailed list, she would probably use that later to complain that, oh I dunno, AH's whole deposition should be thrown out or something. Lawyers tend to be very careful about what they agree to in writing (including emails), and to try to limit that as much as possible, for just that sort of reason. It's perfectly rational for both sides to assume that the other is taking appropriate health and safety precautions, as a professional firm. And frankly, it is insulting for Elaine to assume that Ben's firm isn't. Those measures are properly defined by the CDC, as well as state and county health boards, and are regularly updated by them as the pandemic situation evolves. They are not defined by Elaine's opinion on what counts and what doesn't, nor by Ben's agreement, even with a conciliator - none of those people are health care professionals. Some of the measures taken in AH's deposition may even exceed what was done at JD's deposition - for example, I notice that Elaine didn't even mention whether her team or AH have been vaccinated at all. In fact, her "new strains mean vaccines don't do anything" line of argument is a bit disturbing in its implications. AH seems like she'd be one of those "I'm to good to get vaccinated, let everyone else do it" types of people. Also, Elaine's repeated "we could always do Zoom instead" mentions sprinkled throughout suggest that she's making a big deal out of Covid precautions specifically as a tactic to get him agree to a Zoom deposition just to shut her up. Who wants to bet that Ben told Elaine his power was out just to get a break from her BS?
Hasn’t Amber not shown up for previous depositions? I recall her sister also not finishing her deposition. I totally understand the Covid concerns, but I can understand why Depp’s team said eff that - super easy to claim “connection issues” over Zoom…
The Covid concerns are bs given she sat in the UK courtroom every single day despite not being a party, just a witness. This was during the first LOCKDOWN before any vaccines and while Europes death rate was it’s highest. She then spent the next two years posting her overseas vacations on IG. She even shot an extra scene for Snyders Justice League which was shot in his backyard with zero SAG precautions. Skip forward and you see her in that Fairfax court room unmasked for 6 weeks! ALL her pap shots including in TJ Marx and a supermarket…..unmasked.
You know what gets me...Amber wants to position herself on the moral high horse, but she avails herself of every dirty trick, evasion and delay tactic known to man.
Come on ... this is STANDARD for the ideologies on the left: PRETENDING you are VIRTUOUS but doing the exact opposite. It is quite easy to see when you ask the following: *_Men and women "arent the same" and thus men will be disadvantaged somewhere, but has ANY supporter of "the equality ideology" EVER done anything for men alone?_* [the draft, boys lagging behind in education, men getting hosed in family courts, ...] This really PROVES that "nothing they ever say means anything, because they LIE / are HYPOCRITES!"
she's just gross. I'm every way a person can be gross when it comes to personality and actions. She got through life on her looks and lying. I bet she's real confused why it's not working anymore
It’s okay to fight and believe in your client. That doesn’t mean vilify and judge the person on the other end. It’s clear that’s what they did in this and Elaine and her team should be disgusted with themselves. They are the very example of unprofessional and ‘bad lawyers’.
I haven't been as restrained as I could be on Twiiter today. I just need to sat that I CAN'T with anyone who doesn't think Judge A knew from the outset that any outcome would be appealed and was probably extra, extra careful with all of her rulings knowing how much scrutiny this case would be under. No WAY would such an experienced professional be dumb enough to let any personal feelings on this case make their way into rulings.
Dr Spiegel did say during trial that he had not formally evaluated Depp because Depp had “refused” to be examined, which was a misrepresentation of the facts and a cheap shot by Dr. S. But what else can one expect from AH’s team?
😷 😷 😷 In June 2022 ( After the trial), Amber was shopping in TJ Maxx with absolutely NO mask. What Changed? In Jan 2022, AH made a huge massive deal about masks, barriers, clean bathrooms, etc for her deposition. COVID has not gone away.
Yup, my brother has been seriously ill with COVID AGAIN (VARIANT) & is Finally recovering! So what changed, Amber, from Depo in Jan 2022 to no mask in court (& outside) to TJ Maxx... Things that make you go "hmmm"...
Bottom line, Elaine wants a Zoom call or Amber wearing a mask. Ben understands this and is not taking her bait or getting bullied by her. Kudos to Ben Chew!!
Wrt N-95s for the deposition: As someone who works in occupational health/industrial safety I’m a little frustrated about the talk around N-95s. While they are effective at filtering out respirable airborne particles that effectiveness is contingent on the fit of the mask to your face. Without a proper seal the N-95 guarantees no more effectiveness than a cloth face mask. A minor irritation in the hellscape of these two lawyers trying to schedule one hearing date lol.
This!!! And most people purposefully don’t wear them properly either for whatever reason, whether they don’t want to be wearing one in the first place or they find it uncomfortable. So frustrating.
Yes!!! I’m a medical assistant and during the height of the pandemic, I had seen so many N-95’s not fitted tightly around faces. I mean it has to be right up on the skin fully fully with no spaces it to be fully effective!
I can understand the concern about Omicron. We caught it in February, and we were staying home self quarantining the whole time. It was just so contagious, we caught it from our neighbors through the vents. Still, it does also seem like Elaine is trying to throw up a firewall of demands in excess and then throwing a fit saying "If you don't meet every single one of these, we're not doing it!" I think Ben's concerns about stalling tactics is still valid here. Because if she was so concerned about it, why weren't Amber & her sister wearing masks in court? It was only a few months later and they did still have babies at home. It just doesn't track.
So far everyone in our household has avoided catching it. I do understand how you caught it thru the vents though. In total we have lost 6 family members. My cousin was the 1st Pandemic death in our county for months & then all of a sudden people fleeing NYC flocked here to their beach homes & brought it with them. We had a spike in cases & deaths & sadly many of those were traced to 2 places; T-Mobile because they demanded employees with Asymptomatic cases still come to work. And the other was Harris Teeter directly across from the Urgent Care. They allowed the staff filling the curbside pick up orders & deli workers slicing meats & cheeses to only wear the face shields & no masks. So unfortunately the elderly & others who were extremely cautious & never left their home ended up catching it from their groceries
@@alyssaxxy I mean, at least where I live, there's no filters or fans or anything in/on the vents. The smells from neighboring apartments fill my room (sometimes to an overwhelming degree when someone hotboxes), so I assume any airborne germs have free access, too. ^_^;
Ben Chew already promised to take all the same precautions AHs counsel did. I understand there is absolutely no reason for him to respond again to anything
Exactly, the only thing he declined was the idea of a zoom depo, which honestly I wouldn't have trusted either. Elaine brings the safety precautions back into the discussion needlessly. She wants the Zoom, the rest is pretense.
Lol! I loved when Emily read that email where Ben finally replied back to Elaine's pushy questions in her email- "Elaine- true to ur form u continue to decline our offer of courtesy......" 😆 🤣 😂 😆 🤣 😭 😭
@John Hooper You can believe what you want to believe. You were not part of the trial or the jury for that matter. They decided the evidence did not support Amber’s claims. Period.
TUG has addressed the accusations in Att. 9 (excuse to contact police) of the emergency order to protect attendants of deposition in a recent video on the sealed docs. He shows evidence of AH sharing these sealed docs to Barlow as a means to attack him. PS - it is clear via those emails that these lawyers do not get along at all and Ben Chew is just done with Elaine’s shenanigans.
She has no business endangering her sister and unborn child. Rent an empty house and caregivers and go live there for 2 weeks before and after the deposition! How hard is this?! It's not J.D's responsibility to keep her sister and her kid safe. (Although everyone she knew included overnight lovers expected to live iff him).
I had to get off twitter too because the amount of misinformation from these unsealed documents was going me anxiety. I thought I would have a panic attack. The amount of people accusing Johnny and Marilyn Manson of grooming a 18 year old, when it was about the song "eighteen", and them making fun of Johnny for having an ED. It was too much. Im still feeling sick from it to be honest.
I absolutely hate that people brought up the Valtrex and the Cialis. As somebody has worked in the medical field I can tell you that Valtrex is an antiviral that can be used from anything from viral influenza to shingles to yes treating a VD. but to just say that that's what he had is ridiculous. Cialis can be used for increased heart rate high blood pressure and number of other things other than just ED. it just angers me that t people immediately go to the worst case scenario possible
@@sallycinnamon5370 I worked in cardiac care and our Docs prescribed it for high BP and high HR, now I will give you that it's deffinatly an off brand use, not indicated for that, but that happens wit a lot of meds.
@@tammyschenk7877 It’s super rare then. I have never even seen a cardiac patient in my ER on it. It could be a regional difference of practise. I think generally our cardiologists wouldn’t consider unless it’s a last resort because a cardiac patient taking a medication that contraindicates nitroglycerins can leave patients in a scary situation in the event of an MI.
Replay crew: Amber's team's insistence on covid precautions makes me so MAD. In April 2022, *I* was pregnant and home with an unvaccinated toddler, but because I'm not a spoiled celebrity I still had to go out and take risks because I have responsibilities and we all got the OV. So many of us Randos don't have the option of throwing a tantrum and have to just deal with the best safety precautions we can. What a brat.
This sure was quite a look inside those unsealed documents. Elaine sure was micromanaging all the things to drag this thing out like a slow headache.😒 Ben was a fountain of snark for this mess of back and forth. 😆
Absolutely Elaine was micromanaging just something unsavory about the way they handle the trial somewhat under professional than the depp team I saw a interview where Camille said they were over prepared that is the way to do it even if you're not in a courtroom it's good to be over prepared for almost anything in life if you can if you can
Judging by the way AH and team handled documents in the courtroom, I can only imagine what their office most look like, and how hard it must be to find a piece of mail.
Exactly! Especially when she said someone threatened to microwave her baby. Where's the proof? If it were real she would've posted pics of it everywhere.
Honestly the one thing this trial has taught me is being board certified or having a high degree of certification means nothing because you can pay just about anyone to say anything that u need when u have enough money
I understand that Emily is trying to be fair to Elaine about the deposition/COVID thing. But I think it's important to consider Ben's reaction against the backdrop of the YEARS of f*ckery and outright dishonesty he and the BR crew have dealt with from Elaine. When someone pulls as much garbage as she has, they don't get the benefit of the doubt - particularly when you know Ben and co would never do anything dangerous. Elaine and Amber have done nothing to earn the benefit of the doubt.
We're finally seeing the "mountains of evidence" we really want to see. Elaaaaine! I was live and then had an appointment so I'm catching up on replay crew. Strange to be both today 😄
I have so many questions about how Dr. Spiegel could have all those credentials and still think assessing from movies and calling a subject an idiot in court were good ideas.
Agreed! That's why I think Elaine kept sending emails. Not a misunderstanding or difference in safety protocols. Just that they weren't getting what they really wanted, a zoom depo.
Reading Elaine's emails is making want to put my head through a walll...with years of this back and forth I find Ben's snark and agressivity a bit more understandable (if maybe not WAP X) )
I would bet that anyone forced to deal with elaine would have these issues hence why ben wrote that he was warned about her. Boy is she just deplorable
Q: When AH called police at the condos, if they actually saw any bruises on her, would California law allow law enforcement to file charges against him without her to file? I know that some states will file as long as there is sufficient evidence.
I wonder if this is why they avoided talking about the pandemic as often as possible during the trial. Perhaps there was a Motion in Limine they were afraid to breach/open the door?
all the things she stated about JDs mental state that made her want him to be assessed is all things that are her and we heard and watched play out in court. Her gaslighting even in a legal document is mind blowing
Regarding the counter claim, she couldn’t help it. The counter claim was an extension of her abuse and a way to try and get Depp to drop his own case or settle. They thought he wouldn’t fight, because he always retreated from a conflict. This time he didn’t and they got BTFO’d.
Really struggling with the repeated assertion that there are “death threats” with a link to suggest it’s the evidence of it… and when you look at the “examples” there’s not a single hint of a threat…
I can see JD is SO DONE with AH games. He's had enough. AH demands would have also created a mini-public outcry re boosters, restrictions, etc., going on in the world.
Don't get me wrong-I am more than confident that Amber and her makeshift minions, I mean legal counsel *[particularly Elaine],* trying to use the Omicron variant as a tool to stall her in-person deposition and/or attempt to create a preferred and calculated factor while doing her deposition is, at the very least, one of the reasons for the circle-talking that Elaine demonstrated in a baffling number of her emails to and in response to Ben. I wanted to make that clear before I continue with the reason that I decided to respond to you. However, I am curious as to how or why you think that Heard’s demands “would have also created a mini-public outcry regarding boosters, restrictions, etc., going on in the world,” precisely, especially considering that you didn't speculate or merely share your opinion on it, rather, you stated that in a “matter of fact” type of manner?
@@kate_m_k88 I can speak for OP, but, my take on the comment is that with all the contention that's went on over vaccines and boosters,that if her demands that all those involved be vaccinated or have boosters had gotten out to the public before the trial, that along with the mob of supporters outside the courthouse,there probably would have been a mob of anti-covid vaccine folks. As well as those involved in the case or courthouse workers who might not want the vaccine or booster. They would have either been forced to get it or replaced. Especially in Virginia. It's considered part of the south where it's more conservative and we've had more push back against vaccination. Also, masks were not mandated at that time. That's just my opinion on why OP said there would be public outcry, because I thought the exact same thing when Emily read it. Edited for typos.
Love the live as always 🙏🏻❤️ Crazy how much were hidden. Thank you for sharing. I’m honestly still shaking my head at AH & her team, who have no chance of winning. The really truth is so much more then we all thought we knew 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Amber set out to destroy an incredible man, it blew up in her face. I love it when a nasty, entitled, gold digger blows up their own career, it really looks good on her. When it's self inflicted that's icing on the cake..
I would actually be curious to find out how long Amber had been dodging scheduling this deposition. She should have jumped on doing it during summer during the times of lowest numbers if that was her primary concern. Pushing it to mid flu season ensured there would be a flare of some sort. And the fact that Johnny was deposed before vaccine availability meant that it was probably back in early 2021. They would have DEFINITELY been seeking Ambers deposition at that time. Seems to me there was likely at least 6 months of delay…and potentially the the court had been reluctant to force her in person attendance since she wasn’t the moving party. But when she countersued I think it kind of took away some of their leverage as they were being compelled into the trial and shouldn’t be forced by the courts to take any risks just because JD sued. But with the countersuit they couldn’t bargue that they were only engaging in the suit under duress.
Didn't Elaine claim there were two opportunities for the deposition: One in December 2020 and one in March 2021, but Ben had cancelled one both occasions?
Considering the Travelist insurance co was paying and did not cap fees. Elaine just went on her merry way. If AH was paying her with her limited funds I wonder if things would have gone differently. ? Meanwhile the Insurance Co are in litigation I hope Emily you could go into this??
Im sure she has gone mask less when hanging out with her Law team, Friends, family etc.. the reality is thats where its being transmitted mostly so it really makes little sense unless she has stayed Home for the last two years... Im pretty sure she was in Tjmaxx un masked.... And she demanded JD fly over to the UK for the sun trial and that was a way more dangerous variant.
Is there a deep male voice you can use for Johnny Depp like Elaine did in court? 😂 "You'll never look into my eyes again" It's funny but that was so messed up
damn even the requirements for all my appointments in 2020 and 2021 were not as strict! I was undergoing chemo and it would have been easier to schedule a depo with me than it was with AH. If AH was so scared for her sister, which is more than fair, then rent a place for your depo and the 2 following weeks. I wouldn't say that to the average person, but she could have done it. Regarding her daughter, she could have arranged something for her not to be at risk. I think there was some real concern about the new variants but it was also a way to evade the depo or force JD's team to agree to AH's team's requirements or to do the thing on zoom
I am late to commenting here but I think it's important to point out that behaviour and personality traits are not clinical diagnoses. Narcissism is a trait not a clinical diagnosis. It's measured via questionnaires (depending on what type of N you're interested in) for research purposes. Likewise, psychopath and sociopath aren't in the DSM. This may seem like a loophole but many of the terms being flung around are traits that have been useful for research. Ethics boards make it much more difficult to conduct research with patients than nonpatients. Getting access and clearance to, say, a population with psychosis or schizotypal personality disorder is very difficult but giving questionnaires to students to measure schizotypy is much easier. If we move to curtailing discussion of behaviour and personality traits we are running out of aspects of mental health that can be discussed.
Ok but regarding Ambers depo and the Rona issue... she could have gotten her parents to babysit her child and taken a 2 week quarantine in a hotel after the depo with regular testing... Many people had to get creative with in this situation and while I can understand her concern.. it seems pretty obvious that this was just another attempt to get Depps team to do as she wants...
@@lazzzyyyme9170 I got COVID when my daughter was 8 months old. There is 0 chance I would have sent her to anyone for care after swabbing positive. Especially grandparents! We know pre-symptomatic transmission is a large issue. The chances of your infant developing it is massive considering their level of contact. My daughter, likely due to luck, masking, and the fact that I breastfed her, never got it from me even though I couldn’t truly distance from her but that was bizarre. I work as an ER nurse. Had I developed symptoms ahead of my husband I would have quarantined from her as best I could until he or she became ill. But sending a close contact away to do anything but isolate is not only likely useless but also reckless IMO. And expecting her to quarantine after for 2 weeks is also ridiculous. But the N95 trend by the community was ridiculous. They wear the masks for too long. Reuse them. Touch them while they use them. They don’t fit properly half the time and it rides up their mouth or down their nose when they talk. Or they are worn by men with facial hair that can’t get a seal even it the sizing is good. A well ventilated room with social distancing between her side and his. And if her side wanted to social distance within their camp then so be it…but I doubt that the lawyer were distancing from each other. And if she was really concerned about exposure then each side having finite lawyers present is a best demand. Expecting surgical cleaning is stupid.
@@mit1017 Her daughter was born April 8, 2021. She would have been 9 months old in January 2022. That’s not a newborn. Also, I genuinely wonder about how much truth there is to the accusations against her father. If her father was such an awful abusive person, how come her and her sister are both so close to him? I mean there are happy pics with him all over her Instagram. There is even a happy photo with him, her sister, her, and her daughter.
All those added safety precautions on AHs depo requirements I think were delay tactics, she was requiring everyone be triple vaxxed, special cleaning, etc. I would be annoyed too.
To be honest I would just be suspicious of the zoom deposition because of how much they brought it up and fight for it at every turn. Like we know Amber and her team were Shady but how are they going to be shady with the zoom call?
I’d be concerned they would be prompting or coaching her off screen. She got coached extensively during her divorce depo. We say her getting coached and led extensively during trial. I think that anyone connected with previous AH litigation would be concerned about that. Seems like speaking and leading objections are the way for all her legal counsel to behave.
Ben knows she's going to have someone prompting her just like she did in Court when one of Heards friends got chucked out by the judge. That's why he doesn't want her on zoom!
Sounds like Elaine has been pulling BS the whole time regarding the depos, and Chew et al are fed up with it. Elaine then seems to be trying to grab on to any excuse and setting the bar so high, valid or not (opinions vary), that they can use it as an excuse not to allow her to be deposed in a timely matter, and then Elaine turns around when called and playing the "What? Me?" card. So no, no sympathy what so ever for Elaine or AH and their BS. Ben played this 1000% correct...
I absolutely get the concern for Whitney, the kids etc. However, I sense after so much prior experience with Amber's team Ben was at the end of even hiding his feelings. The previous motions suggest a team who really were throwing out every possible option they could think of, no matter how tenuous and twee, to see what they could get to stick. They also suggest a team not opposed to stretching the boundaries of what is allowed. That's not to say that JD and team didn't also do their own fair share of "FU" behaviour.
I was in the hospital during Covid before any vax was ready, then in the hospital and a Skilled Nursing Facility and outpatient physical therapy before getting the booster. And being in Florida the people around me didn't have to be vaxxed. And I have cardiopulmonary problems and am 71.
PTSD, which goes on AXIS I, is an anxiety disorder. Like Bipolar, Depression, and Schizophrenia it can be helped with medication and therapy. Personality Disorders, which go on AXIS II, are a different animal. With Axis I the level of symptomatic behavior can be reduced or intermittent. Personality Disorders, OTOH, affect a person's behavior all of the time. To ignore their impact upon a person's behavior is to ignore why the person behaves the way they do. This is all meant to understand people, not to judge them. You would do the mental health community a great service if you had on a psychiatrist or psychologist to help the nerds understand. Or even C. Hughes from The Behavior Panel. Besides being one of the world experts in behavior analysis he has degrees in neuroscience and psychology. He is familiar with the case, also.
@@sounsure9108 I didn't say they were curable. They can be helped and controlled with medication, therapy, sleep hygiene, etc. They are not always symptomatic. It's like having a chronic medical condition that you have to take care of.
This Bridgerton woman is from 🇩🇰 Denmark... And I Looooove watching you, I'm chronicle ill fighting sclerosis and arthritis, watching you you twice a week is the best, thank you for education people but also entertaining at the same time, you are amazing and I'm truly admiring you❤️
I watched this replay while waiting on pins & needles to find out how my dad was doing after a stroke. (He's got slurred speech--hopefully temporary--but he's otherwise okay, apart from the hospital room's TV not working.) Thank you for the badly needed distraction!
I wonder how much the judge knew about this at the time. As Elaine mentioned, court was closed on December 30 (and presumably 31). I doubt the judge was checking email at the time. She probably had boundaries and was not contactable at the time.
Everyone seems to have social anxiety too. It is frustrating when you have someone close who actually has this and see how deeply it effects having a life outside of home and being between the rock and the hard place of needing medical help but even going to an appointment it a big deal!!
I was in the waiting pool to see this live but missed it for work. Love love love from Florida. Thank you for taking the time for Coffee and Cursey words.
Replay crew here! I love the message to not diagnose! “I am so OCD” is a huge problem with some people I’ve worked with. I so badly want to say “no, you’re just trying to make your problems mine. OCD is an actual diagnosis and disorder. Please just stop” Instead I bite my tongue and walk away.
Playing with the new soundboard timestamps: 0:02:20 got a new soundboard 🎉voices 0:03:13 voices, bleeping wtf Elaine 0:05:20 📢“Elaine, your microphone” 0:05:40 Monster voice with monster 🤣🤣 0:08:38 new asterisk (or 🦄) noise 1:01:40 playing with voices 1:05:04 Wtf Elaine bleeped 1:06:50 playing with voices 2:22:20 Yeeted reference, no you go frost
??? I am still not sure why all of the so called" abuse" incidents by Johnny would need be made public by AH in court, if ,in fact the Op Ed wasn't about him.
Love you, Emily! Always enjoy your intelligent points of view! Happy to be part of the community of lawnerds! Ha! Love learning about the legal stuff! Thanks for what you do! ❤🥰
Heard's team are the perfect fit for her, as are probably Johnny's for him. Elaine's snark is just too long winded to take. The answer is no, Elaine...don't make Ben lock himself in a bathroom.
Because AH is so vindictive, if I were JD, I would place the $2M down as the bond/trust needed for filing the appeal. Then whether the appeal is denied, or they finish it, and AH is still owed the $2M or less then to let the trust amount owed be released to her bank only after he has laid claim against her fat her bank for the $!0.350M and catch up whatever she may end up being owed before she even shows it was deposited into her account, so she cannot even for one second rejoice in anyway of receiving any money from him, and be stuck knowing that she couldn't even enjoy the money, nor have time to hide it and know she has thus paid him they amount he had paid out to her so, he would then be in the clear from owing her anything and she would still be on the hook for $8.350!!!
Thank you for advocating the chat to not focus on trying to label or diagnose someone. I am a Special Ed teacher that works with Preschool students that are on the spectrum. We teach the parents and others on campus to see the children for who they are and not what they are diagnosed with. It's so frustrating when I hear people labeling or playing it off to their diagnose.
I'm listening to this while doing housework...then I hear someone refer to a musician that has a site called "Lair of Voltaire" . It peaked my interest. And voila! He was the Voltaire I saw just down the road in Sydney Aus. My BIL bought him over a few times. He sang at my BIL 40th :) The world is VERY small :)
I can appreciate the concern over Omicron, but Ben knows exactly how beneficial it would have been for Heard to do her deposition via Zoom, and why he fiercely fought this. Amber is a deeply conniving, deceptive person capable of egregious tall-tale telling, and giving her free reign on Zoom, or in person with half her face covered would have been disastrous to keep her in check.
I am love love loving your show and your humor. I discovered you during the Depp/Heard trial and am sticking around. A sister fan of period drama, I highly recommend "Gentleman Jack" (HBO/BBC) about Anne Lister, an early 19th Century landowner in Halifax GB. She happens to be brilliant, an adventurer, a socialite, traveler, obsessive diarist and a masculine dressing Lesbian who woos her young neighbor. The acting is magnificent (Surranne Jones is a marvel as Anne - I have a huge girl crush). Costumes are fabulous (Anne L wears a top hat), superb production value. You won't be disappointed I promise
And you don’t think they would ? You don’t think they’ve treated her appallingly? You think ANYONE who isn’t a child abuser/ murderer/serial killer deserves to endure the hell Amber Heard has? You Depp fans make me sick.
Right? Like, who leaked the location of the deposition, anyway? There's only one party in this that's notorious for doing so, and it ain't Depp. I wouldn't put it past Amber to leak it to the public somehow and then cry wolf like there's no tomorrow.
@@lanadeltorro7663 Not exactly a Depp fan. Just watched the testimonies and agree with the jury. Amber Heard is just getting the same social media treatment that Depp got six years ago when he was canceled
@@lanadeltorro7663 If she is so worried it would happen she should provide her security and protect herself not expect someone else to do it. This is the twenty-first-century women are strong and independent not sniveling and whiny. If you are scared take care of it yourself! All I ever hear is Johnny has to do this for me, give me money, gimme gimme gimme whine whine whine here is some cheese with your whine.
Ben's snark is the snark of someone who is been dealing with nonsense for a very long time. We can only imagine what sort of idiocy he had to put up with. It is also smart snark.
I could barely stand Elaine by the end of the first week of the trial. I can't imagine having to deal with her FOR YEARS!
Guys important information that came up on trial that amber team blocked ! According to JD accountant JD has paid more than $33milion. Breakdown : $7mill tax free ( $14.350 million with tax) + her debts accumulated $13 millions + her authoreny fees +500k. MSM claims that AH declined what she was entitled to which is apparently $33milion. Well JD has paid more than that. If he paid her $33 million, she had to pay her own taxes and her own debts which JD paid! So she did get her entitlement and now is twisting that she declined it! Put it on twitter and other social. She did get her money in snicky way!
@@oneway1119 13 million in debt?! Wow! How did that happen!
@@13137713 A certain expensive Spanish wine?
@@Will0wFire 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ironic how 1st amendment only counted for HER, not Waldman!
Same with privacy and social media smear campaigns. Apparently Amber has rights, but nobody else has those same rights!
The first amendment only protects your speech from government infringement.
Always
Rules for thee but not for me
Waldman is Johnny's Attorney; therefore, anything that is said publicly is assumed to be on behalf of JD. If he said "In my opinion....", I think the 1st Amendment would have been applicable to him. Just my thoughts from the cheap seats (I'm not an attorney).
I’m a teacher and I know a lot of families who have had to quarantine within their own homes away from other family members. Given the assumed size of any dwelling JD or AH might find themselves in, it is not impossible to comply with the in-person Depo requirement. She just doesn’t want to and she’s using her baby (no surprise) as a shield. “Will no one think of the children!!???!!!” Gasp, horror!
Why am I not surprised🙄
I’m use they had access to room that would enable social distancing. LOL
Its amazing what fear does to people its so sad to watch
I agree. This is also someone that chose to start the baby process right after the start of and height of covid, as well as shutdowns, quarantining, unknowns, deaths, etc. Why make that choice if it scares you sooo much?
They could've just used plastic box to protect her for pathogenes... If, ofc, safety wasn't pretext for something else (and it probably was)
I live for Ben Chew's snark. He successfully wove a sneaky sneaky Pirate's reference into these exhausting emails. I had to look up the word *palaver* and Merriam Webster says:
Definition of palaver
(Entry 1 of 2)
1a: a long parley usually between persons of different cultures or levels of sophisticationa palaver between foreign ministers
b: CONFERENCE, DISCUSSIONa palaver between union leaders
2a: idle talk: Cut the palaver and get down to business.
b: misleading or beguiling speech: Don't get taken in by the candidate's palaver.
palaver
verb
palavered; palavering\ pə-ˈla-və-riŋ , -ˈlä- ; -ˈlav-riŋ , -ˈläv- \
Definition of palaver (Entry 2 of 2)
intransitive verb
1: to talk profusely or idly
2: PARLEY (: a conference for discussion of points in dispute
b: a conference with an enemy)
transitive verb
: to use palaver to : CAJOLE
And I just died 🤣🤣🤣💀☠🏴☠️
I love it!!
Lol yes!
Older Germans know that word well, it was used in the past quite regulary for conversations about things that are based on nonsens. Younger Germans will not use that word often, except it is some dialect they talk and it has it as an regular word.
We use it in Ireland and in the uk too
@@nomadicvelocities @kralith interesting! Thanks for sharing - I know english borrows a bunch of words, and it's a shame American dialect just isnt the same imho. I love European vernacular, especially UK (especially especially irish &scotch) turns of phrase. They're extremely expressive and well crafted, especially the insults.
Adding palaver to my vocabulary now. I should use words like prattle more often too. They're so much more descriptive
“We’re going to talk about the behavior and that is fair. You are not your diagnosis and shouldn’t be dismissed because of it.” Girl!! As a mental health provider, ❤️ thank you for taking time to send that message!
So Amber was so worried about Covid months before the trial, yet her and her team weren’t wearing masks during the trial seems like she was purposely being difficult. Just more of a reason why she lost.
She lost b/c she was not telling the truth...The Jury saw it.
Oh please Amber is just trying to use Covid procedures to ditch the deposition , and It’s not that deep or complicated put the goddamn mask and be in the room, she can wrap herself in the bubble she can wear bubble suit if she wants , just be there.
^^^^ THIS was the point I was trying to make in my superchat but ran out of characters lol. ^^^^
I had the same thoughts!
Elaine was so worried about Covid. I see no evidence that Amber was.
Ben Chew's snark is my FAVORITE kind of snark!! I love snark that focuses on valid points and comes with a bit of a sharpened tip, rather than using blame and deflection, and just taking shots at somebody, hoping that one of them will hit the target.
Agreed! You should have to earn your right to be snarky, by laying out a cogent and compelling argument, and then you can sprinkle some snark over the top.
@@elbruces Snark Bae 😂
@@daydreambelieving1557 XD
I would pay to see a full 3-hour show of Emily D. Baker scolding Elaine with a megaphone
As would I!!!
With full use of cursey words
In a monster voice 😂
Ditto. The new voice plays are awesome 👏
It’s so refreshing to listen to an actual lawyer, a boss woman who is all about peace & transparency
@@danielwilliams4321 I'd love to hear monster voice to get bleeped 🤣👍
Give me a break. We haven’t seen Amber wear a mask anywhere in public, not in clothing store, not inside grocery store. Of course Amber had a list of demands for JD to pay for. She won’t pay a penny.
And I remember seeing pictures of her after the trial against The Sun where she was wearing a scarf over her face, not a real mask.
The covid concerns were all Elaine. I see no evidence that Amber ever cared about this.
@@captainstefanie yeah that one actually pissed me off because she raised a whole stink but wore a scarf before vaccines even existed.
Literally. Like she’s so worried about it when her sister and her are out with no masks. But I thought they have toddlers, babies and fetuses.
They just want to break them with demands.
Also her sister sat in the galley not wearing a mask all the days she was there in court
I hope Dr Spiegel's crazy testimony has triggered a cascade of re-evaluations by entities who were previously endorsing his skills and ethics.
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I think my biggest problem with this back-forth is that many of us had to go into work every single day even with the pandemic and scrambled to find stable/safe childcare. To hear people complain about “health and safety” when my entire company was able to avoid work-work transmission for years is nauseating.
Unfortunately, no one can control the home environment of staff.
Exactly. I was working with vulnerable populations the whole height of the pandemic and no one seemed to give a shit.
Fall/winter 2020 I was pregnant and working because I couldn’t afford to leave work. Mind you, I was working at Starbucks, where people were flocking because we were open. I took as many precautions as I could and have not yet caught it. We are still very careful as I have a young toddler. So it’s possible to be careful especially with all the precautions they could have taken
It's all a farce she doesn't give a shit about COVID she just wants to be difficult. I would feel differently about the situation if there weren't a million pics of her before and after trial walking around public spaces without a mask, touching everything, touching her face 🤢. I promise hunny you have a better chance of catching the rona fingering every item you pass at TJ Max than you ever did in a large room with vaccinated people in normal face coverings. I can't stand her
@@mikaplaysgames310 Same in Sweden! No one cared a damn, and our death toll dropped. As we knew from the start, the US told us they'd record EVERY death as a WuFlu death. That alone should have tipped people off that it was a hoax to push pharmaceuticals that are STILL in the experimental stage.
What actually makes me mad is in Elaine's email at 1:24:54, she addresses it to Ben, references a previous email, and sends it "to" everyone involved, instead of just sending it "to" him and then putting the rest in the "cc" line. That can create an enormous reply clusterfuck. Everybody who works in an office knows better than to do that. Or should.
It should be noted that actors are often contractually required to attend the premieres of their films at festivals, do press interviews, etc. JD may not have been "filming" per se all the time in Europe, but he was likely no less performing contractually required work.
There's a big difference between the two depositions - JD's team didn't submit in advance an extensive laundry list micromanaging team AH's Covid precautions and require prior agreement to every little detail in writing, before agreeing to the deposition. That's exactly what Elaine is doing here. If Ben agreed to any items in her very long and detailed list, she would probably use that later to complain that, oh I dunno, AH's whole deposition should be thrown out or something. Lawyers tend to be very careful about what they agree to in writing (including emails), and to try to limit that as much as possible, for just that sort of reason.
It's perfectly rational for both sides to assume that the other is taking appropriate health and safety precautions, as a professional firm. And frankly, it is insulting for Elaine to assume that Ben's firm isn't. Those measures are properly defined by the CDC, as well as state and county health boards, and are regularly updated by them as the pandemic situation evolves. They are not defined by Elaine's opinion on what counts and what doesn't, nor by Ben's agreement, even with a conciliator - none of those people are health care professionals. Some of the measures taken in AH's deposition may even exceed what was done at JD's deposition - for example, I notice that Elaine didn't even mention whether her team or AH have been vaccinated at all. In fact, her "new strains mean vaccines don't do anything" line of argument is a bit disturbing in its implications. AH seems like she'd be one of those "I'm to good to get vaccinated, let everyone else do it" types of people.
Also, Elaine's repeated "we could always do Zoom instead" mentions sprinkled throughout suggest that she's making a big deal out of Covid precautions specifically as a tactic to get him agree to a Zoom deposition just to shut her up.
Who wants to bet that Ben told Elaine his power was out just to get a break from her BS?
Hasn’t Amber not shown up for previous depositions? I recall her sister also not finishing her deposition. I totally understand the Covid concerns, but I can understand why Depp’s team said eff that - super easy to claim “connection issues” over Zoom…
I’m here for a Netflix stream.
Sbe got the date wrong for a previous depp and didn't show up.
The Covid concerns are bs given she sat in the UK courtroom every single day despite not being a party, just a witness. This was during the first LOCKDOWN before any vaccines and while Europes death rate was it’s highest. She then spent the next two years posting her overseas vacations on IG. She even shot an extra scene for Snyders Justice League which was shot in his backyard with zero SAG precautions. Skip forward and you see her in that Fairfax court room unmasked for 6 weeks! ALL her pap shots including in TJ Marx and a supermarket…..unmasked.
You know what gets me...Amber wants to position herself on the moral high horse, but she avails herself of every dirty trick, evasion and delay tactic known to man.
I am not at all surprised. She’s basically a thug!
Come on ... this is STANDARD for the ideologies on the left: PRETENDING you are VIRTUOUS but doing the exact opposite. It is quite easy to see when you ask the following: *_Men and women "arent the same" and thus men will be disadvantaged somewhere, but has ANY supporter of "the equality ideology" EVER done anything for men alone?_* [the draft, boys lagging behind in education, men getting hosed in family courts, ...]
This really PROVES that "nothing they ever say means anything, because they LIE / are HYPOCRITES!"
How does she always play the victim whilst playing very low and dirty? Still to this day she’s doing it, with the help of MSM.
she's just gross. I'm every way a person can be gross when it comes to personality and actions. She got through life on her looks and lying. I bet she's real confused why it's not working anymore
@@izzeypally when did you ever knew or even met her for 5 minutes? People who judge other people without a clue are gross IMO
It’s okay to fight and believe in your client.
That doesn’t mean vilify and judge the person on the other end. It’s clear that’s what they did in this and Elaine and her team should be disgusted with themselves.
They are the very example of unprofessional and ‘bad lawyers’.
"Dirty lawyers" also fulfil a niche in the law business and you know exactly what kind of people will go purposefully looking for them.
Man… the email exchange makes Camille’s back to back objections during trial even more amazing
TheGirlWithThatFace Camille fired off "Objection" like she was firing an AR-15. I LOVED IT!
I really appreciate you not claiming videos unless it's a straight re-upload bc the Elaine compilation is absolute gold and I love it.
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I haven't been as restrained as I could be on Twiiter today.
I just need to sat that I CAN'T with anyone who doesn't think Judge A knew from the outset that any outcome would be appealed and was probably extra, extra careful with all of her rulings knowing how much scrutiny this case would be under. No WAY would such an experienced professional be dumb enough to let any personal feelings on this case make their way into rulings.
Dr Spiegel did say during trial that he had not formally evaluated Depp because Depp had “refused” to be examined, which was a misrepresentation of the facts and a cheap shot by Dr. S. But what else can one expect from AH’s team?
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😷 😷 😷 In June 2022 ( After the trial), Amber was shopping in TJ Maxx with absolutely NO mask. What Changed? In Jan 2022, AH made a huge massive deal about masks, barriers, clean bathrooms, etc for her deposition. COVID has not gone away.
Yup, my brother has been seriously ill with COVID AGAIN (VARIANT) & is Finally recovering!
So what changed, Amber, from Depo in Jan 2022 to no mask in court (& outside) to TJ Maxx... Things that make you go "hmmm"...
Sounds like Elaine made a bigger deal of it than Amber did.
Ben Chew absolutely annihilating Elaine in his e-mails and then signing off with "Very truly yours" is a level of "no fucks" I aspire to reach.
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Very “Your Obedient Servant” energy 😂
Bottom line, Elaine wants a Zoom call or Amber wearing a mask. Ben understands this and is not taking her bait or getting bullied by her. Kudos to Ben Chew!!
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Wrt N-95s for the deposition: As someone who works in occupational health/industrial safety I’m a little frustrated about the talk around N-95s. While they are effective at filtering out respirable airborne particles that effectiveness is contingent on the fit of the mask to your face. Without a proper seal the N-95 guarantees no more effectiveness than a cloth face mask.
A minor irritation in the hellscape of these two lawyers trying to schedule one hearing date lol.
This!!! And most people purposefully don’t wear them properly either for whatever reason, whether they don’t want to be wearing one in the first place or they find it uncomfortable. So frustrating.
Yaaaassss!
ABSOLUTELY! If you haven’t done a fit test there is no guarantee that they are any better than an average mask.
Nurse here! Yesssss! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Yes!!! I’m a medical assistant and during the height of the pandemic, I had seen so many N-95’s not fitted tightly around faces. I mean it has to be right up on the skin fully fully with no spaces it to be fully effective!
I can understand the concern about Omicron. We caught it in February, and we were staying home self quarantining the whole time. It was just so contagious, we caught it from our neighbors through the vents. Still, it does also seem like Elaine is trying to throw up a firewall of demands in excess and then throwing a fit saying "If you don't meet every single one of these, we're not doing it!" I think Ben's concerns about stalling tactics is still valid here. Because if she was so concerned about it, why weren't Amber & her sister wearing masks in court? It was only a few months later and they did still have babies at home. It just doesn't track.
Wait back up. The VENTS?! You sure someone wasn’t lying and sneaking out the apt?? 🤔
@@alyssaxxy lol no, we're homebodies here
So far everyone in our household has avoided catching it. I do understand how you caught it thru the vents though.
In total we have lost 6 family members. My cousin was the 1st Pandemic death in our county for months & then all of a sudden people fleeing NYC flocked here to their beach homes & brought it with them. We had a spike in cases & deaths & sadly many of those were traced to 2 places; T-Mobile because they demanded employees with Asymptomatic cases still come to work. And the other was Harris Teeter directly across from the Urgent Care. They allowed the staff filling the curbside pick up orders & deli workers slicing meats & cheeses to only wear the face shields & no masks.
So unfortunately the elderly & others who were extremely cautious & never left their home ended up catching it from their groceries
@@alyssaxxy I mean, at least where I live, there's no filters or fans or anything in/on the vents. The smells from neighboring apartments fill my room (sometimes to an overwhelming degree when someone hotboxes), so I assume any airborne germs have free access, too. ^_^;
@@TaoScribble that is so wild. The vents may connect but they have filters on every end.
Ben Chew already promised to take all the same precautions AHs counsel did. I understand there is absolutely no reason for him to respond again to anything
Exactly, the only thing he declined was the idea of a zoom depo, which honestly I wouldn't have trusted either. Elaine brings the safety precautions back into the discussion needlessly. She wants the Zoom, the rest is pretense.
The fact JD STILL won despite Elaine and AHs constant fuckery just shows how un-credible and dislikeable they were to everyone watching.
the Judge was like gtfo with Elaine's asinine/infantile antics and unprofessionalism.
Lol! I loved when Emily read that email where Ben finally replied back to Elaine's pushy questions in her email-
"Elaine- true to ur form u continue to decline our offer of courtesy......"
😆 🤣 😂 😆 🤣 😭 😭
@John Hooper Well, we are all wrong sometimes. But the verdict was not one of those times.
@@LD86 thank u! 🙌 👏 👏 👏
@John Hooper You can believe what you want to believe. You were not part of the trial or the jury for that matter. They decided the evidence did not support Amber’s claims. Period.
what does Amber Heard and archaeologist have in common? they both keep digging up the past and their careers lie in ruins.
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Love it!!
Lol lol lol
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😆😆 Congratulations! You win the internet today!
TUG has addressed the accusations in Att. 9 (excuse to contact police) of the emergency order to protect attendants of deposition in a recent video on the sealed docs. He shows evidence of AH sharing these sealed docs to Barlow as a means to attack him.
PS - it is clear via those emails that these lawyers do not get along at all and Ben Chew is just done with Elaine’s shenanigans.
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She has no business endangering her sister and unborn child. Rent an empty house and caregivers and go live there for 2 weeks before and after the deposition! How hard is this?! It's not J.D's responsibility to keep her sister and her kid safe. (Although everyone she knew included overnight lovers expected to live iff him).
I had to get off twitter too because the amount of misinformation from these unsealed documents was going me anxiety. I thought I would have a panic attack. The amount of people accusing Johnny and Marilyn Manson of grooming a 18 year old, when it was about the song "eighteen", and them making fun of Johnny for having an ED. It was too much. Im still feeling sick from it to be honest.
I absolutely hate that people brought up the Valtrex and the Cialis. As somebody has worked in the medical field I can tell you that Valtrex is an antiviral that can be used from anything from viral influenza to shingles to yes treating a VD. but to just say that that's what he had is ridiculous. Cialis can be used for increased heart rate high blood pressure and number of other things other than just ED. it just angers me that t people immediately go to the worst case scenario possible
@@tammyschenk7877 I am with you on the Valtrex.
But pull my other one about Cialis. I work in an ER and have never seen it for anything ED
@@sallycinnamon5370 I worked in cardiac care and our Docs prescribed it for high BP and high HR, now I will give you that it's deffinatly an off brand use, not indicated for that, but that happens wit a lot of meds.
@@tammyschenk7877 It’s super rare then. I have never even seen a cardiac patient in my ER on it. It could be a regional difference of practise. I think generally our cardiologists wouldn’t consider unless it’s a last resort because a cardiac patient taking a medication that contraindicates nitroglycerins can leave patients in a scary situation in the event of an MI.
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A girlfriend of mine has serious lung and heart issues. She is on several different medications and Cialis is one of those.
Replay crew: Amber's team's insistence on covid precautions makes me so MAD. In April 2022, *I* was pregnant and home with an unvaccinated toddler, but because I'm not a spoiled celebrity I still had to go out and take risks because I have responsibilities and we all got the OV. So many of us Randos don't have the option of throwing a tantrum and have to just deal with the best safety precautions we can. What a brat.
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This sure was quite a look inside those unsealed documents. Elaine sure was micromanaging all the things to drag this thing out like a slow headache.😒 Ben was a fountain of snark for this mess of back and forth. 😆
His trial speaking highlights and case writing was the best part of the trial. I’d buy his books 📚!
Absolutely Elaine was micromanaging just something unsavory about the way they handle the trial somewhat under professional than the depp team I saw a interview where Camille said they were over prepared that is the way to do it even if you're not in a courtroom it's good to be over prepared for almost anything in life if you can if you can
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With all her lengthy emails, Elaine was DEFINITELY milking the insurance money 😂 😂 😂
She probably charged double for the new years eve emails.
"Elaine your microphone!" I LOVE IT!!!
Judging by the way AH and team handled documents in the courtroom, I can only imagine what their office most look like, and how hard it must be to find a piece of mail.
Did AH ever present proof of alleged “death threats”? Did she ever employ a body guard? Is the allegation an overreaction to gain Drama?
Exactly! Especially when she said someone threatened to microwave her baby. Where's the proof? If it were real she would've posted pics of it everywhere.
I'd guess it is.
@@fellowviewer1095 she got that from the lyrics of j dash "wop" song
Honestly the one thing this trial has taught me is being board certified or having a high degree of certification means nothing because you can pay just about anyone to say anything that u need when u have enough money
I understand that Emily is trying to be fair to Elaine about the deposition/COVID thing. But I think it's important to consider Ben's reaction against the backdrop of the YEARS of f*ckery and outright dishonesty he and the BR crew have dealt with from Elaine. When someone pulls as much garbage as she has, they don't get the benefit of the doubt - particularly when you know Ben and co would never do anything dangerous. Elaine and Amber have done nothing to earn the benefit of the doubt.
Specially when there’s a video of Heard eating oysters from a street cart during the pandemic touching the spoons everyone else touches
We're finally seeing the "mountains of evidence" we really want to see. Elaaaaine!
I was live and then had an appointment so I'm catching up on replay crew. Strange to be both today 😄
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I have so many questions about how Dr. Spiegel could have all those credentials and still think assessing from movies and calling a subject an idiot in court were good ideas.
Perhaps Ben’s issue with the Zoom depo is Elaine’s continuous mic fumbles. 🎤😉
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My dad is a director of photography. Being on a set with a firearm is super stressful. I’ve been there.
Heard's dodging had nothing to do with protecting others but to avoid depo
Totally agree 👍!!
Agreed! That's why I think Elaine kept sending emails. Not a misunderstanding or difference in safety protocols. Just that they weren't getting what they really wanted, a zoom depo.
Reading Elaine's emails is making want to put my head through a walll...with years of this back and forth I find Ben's snark and agressivity a bit more understandable (if maybe not WAP X) )
I'm pretty sure Ben's zero to 60 escalation was the result of the accusations Elaine made before. Once you've loss good will you get nothing
What’s your definition of WAP? Mine is, well probably a lot different. 🫠
I would bet that anyone forced to deal with elaine would have these issues hence why ben wrote that he was warned about her. Boy is she just deplorable
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Every time they said yes, Elaine came back and asked for more. I get why Ben Chew was frustrated. It was never enough
Q: When AH called police at the condos, if they actually saw any bruises on her, would California law allow law enforcement to file charges against him without her to file? I know that some states will file as long as there is sufficient evidence.
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I wonder if this is why they avoided talking about the pandemic as often as possible during the trial. Perhaps there was a Motion in Limine they were afraid to breach/open the door?
all the things she stated about JDs mental state that made her want him to be assessed is all things that are her and we heard and watched play out in court. Her gaslighting even in a legal document is mind blowing
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Regarding the counter claim, she couldn’t help it. The counter claim was an extension of her abuse and a way to try and get Depp to drop his own case or settle. They thought he wouldn’t fight, because he always retreated from a conflict. This time he didn’t and they got BTFO’d.
Really struggling with the repeated assertion that there are “death threats” with a link to suggest it’s the evidence of it… and when you look at the “examples” there’s not a single hint of a threat…
I can see JD is SO DONE with AH games. He's had enough. AH demands would have also created a mini-public outcry re boosters, restrictions, etc., going on in the world.
Don't get me wrong-I am more than confident that Amber and her makeshift minions, I mean legal counsel *[particularly Elaine],* trying to use the Omicron variant as a tool to stall her in-person deposition and/or attempt to create a preferred and calculated factor while doing her deposition is, at the very least, one of the reasons for the circle-talking that Elaine demonstrated in a baffling number of her emails to and in response to Ben.
I wanted to make that clear before I continue with the reason that I decided to respond to you.
However, I am curious as to how or why you think that Heard’s demands “would have also created a mini-public outcry regarding boosters, restrictions, etc., going on in the world,” precisely, especially considering that you didn't speculate or merely share your opinion on it, rather, you stated that in a “matter of fact” type of manner?
@@kate_m_k88 I can speak for OP, but, my take on the comment is that with all the contention that's went on over vaccines and boosters,that if her demands that all those involved be vaccinated or have boosters had gotten out to the public before the trial, that along with the mob of supporters outside the courthouse,there probably would have been a mob of anti-covid vaccine folks. As well as those involved in the case or courthouse workers who might not want the vaccine or booster. They would have either been forced to get it or replaced. Especially in Virginia. It's considered part of the south where it's more conservative and we've had more push back against vaccination. Also, masks were not mandated at that time. That's just my opinion on why OP said there would be public outcry, because I thought the exact same thing when Emily read it.
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Love the live as always 🙏🏻❤️
Crazy how much were hidden. Thank you for sharing. I’m honestly still shaking my head at AH & her team, who have no chance of winning. The really truth is so much more then we all thought we knew 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Yep! Not surprised! Elaine was always SOOOO upset with the judges rulings and watching AH'S depos were horrible (IMO)
Amber set out to destroy an incredible man, it blew up in her face. I love it when a nasty, entitled, gold digger blows up their own career, it really looks good on her. When it's self inflicted that's icing on the cake..
Legit had me dying when you brought the voice changer out with Elaine. XD
I would actually be curious to find out how long Amber had been dodging scheduling this deposition. She should have jumped on doing it during summer during the times of lowest numbers if that was her primary concern. Pushing it to mid flu season ensured there would be a flare of some sort. And the fact that Johnny was deposed before vaccine availability meant that it was probably back in early 2021. They would have DEFINITELY been seeking Ambers deposition at that time. Seems to me there was likely at least 6 months of delay…and potentially the the court had been reluctant to force her in person attendance since she wasn’t the moving party. But when she countersued I think it kind of took away some of their leverage as they were being compelled into the trial and shouldn’t be forced by the courts to take any risks just because JD sued. But with the countersuit they couldn’t bargue that they were only engaging in the suit under duress.
Ding ding ding!
Didn't Elaine claim there were two opportunities for the deposition: One in December 2020 and one in March 2021, but Ben had cancelled one both occasions?
Considering the Travelist insurance co was paying and did not cap fees. Elaine just went on her merry way. If AH was paying her with her limited funds I wonder if things would have gone differently. ? Meanwhile the Insurance Co are in litigation I hope Emily you could go into this??
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Im sure she has gone mask less when hanging out with her Law team, Friends, family etc.. the reality is thats where its being transmitted mostly so it really makes little sense unless she has stayed Home for the last two years... Im pretty sure she was in Tjmaxx un masked.... And she demanded JD fly over to the UK for the sun trial and that was a way more dangerous variant.
I could not imagine having more than one case at a time writing long emails back and forth like that.
Is there a deep male voice you can use for Johnny Depp like Elaine did in court? 😂
"You'll never look into my eyes again"
It's funny but that was so messed up
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damn even the requirements for all my appointments in 2020 and 2021 were not as strict! I was undergoing chemo and it would have been easier to schedule a depo with me than it was with AH. If AH was so scared for her sister, which is more than fair, then rent a place for your depo and the 2 following weeks. I wouldn't say that to the average person, but she could have done it. Regarding her daughter, she could have arranged something for her not to be at risk. I think there was some real concern about the new variants but it was also a way to evade the depo or force JD's team to agree to AH's team's requirements or to do the thing on zoom
I am late to commenting here but I think it's important to point out that behaviour and personality traits are not clinical diagnoses. Narcissism is a trait not a clinical diagnosis. It's measured via questionnaires (depending on what type of N you're interested in) for research purposes. Likewise, psychopath and sociopath aren't in the DSM. This may seem like a loophole but many of the terms being flung around are traits that have been useful for research. Ethics boards make it much more difficult to conduct research with patients than nonpatients. Getting access and clearance to, say, a population with psychosis or schizotypal personality disorder is very difficult but giving questionnaires to students to measure schizotypy is much easier.
If we move to curtailing discussion of behaviour and personality traits we are running out of aspects of mental health that can be discussed.
"were going to amuse all of our... We're going to amuse ourselves here"
All of me is thoroughly entertained, thanks Emily 😂
So did Amber, her attorneys and all there families and staff never leave the house??
Ok but regarding Ambers depo and the Rona issue... she could have gotten her parents to babysit her child and taken a 2 week quarantine in a hotel after the depo with regular testing...
Many people had to get creative with in this situation and while I can understand her concern.. it seems pretty obvious that this was just another attempt to get Depps team to do as she wants...
lol at anyone thinks that Amber Heard was the primary caregiver of the newborn…she definitely had a full time nanny despite not having a job. LOL
@@mit1017 I mean whoever she got to watch her baby for 6 weeks while she was in court could’ve done so earlier.
@@lazzzyyyme9170 I got COVID when my daughter was 8 months old. There is 0 chance I would have sent her to anyone for care after swabbing positive. Especially grandparents! We know pre-symptomatic transmission is a large issue. The chances of your infant developing it is massive considering their level of contact. My daughter, likely due to luck, masking, and the fact that I breastfed her, never got it from me even though I couldn’t truly distance from her but that was bizarre.
I work as an ER nurse. Had I developed symptoms ahead of my husband I would have quarantined from her as best I could until he or she became ill. But sending a close contact away to do anything but isolate is not only likely useless but also reckless IMO.
And expecting her to quarantine after for 2 weeks is also ridiculous. But the N95 trend by the community was ridiculous. They wear the masks for too long. Reuse them. Touch them while they use them. They don’t fit properly half the time and it rides up their mouth or down their nose when they talk. Or they are worn by men with facial hair that can’t get a seal even it the sizing is good.
A well ventilated room with social distancing between her side and his. And if her side wanted to social distance within their camp then so be it…but I doubt that the lawyer were distancing from each other. And if she was really concerned about exposure then each side having finite lawyers present is a best demand. Expecting surgical cleaning is stupid.
@@mit1017 Her daughter was born April 8, 2021. She would have been 9 months old in January 2022. That’s not a newborn.
Also, I genuinely wonder about how much truth there is to the accusations against her father. If her father was such an awful abusive person, how come her and her sister are both so close to him? I mean there are happy pics with him all over her Instagram. There is even a happy photo with him, her sister, her, and her daughter.
They probably over exaggerated. But also my friend's dad was abusive and her sister was close to him before he died. So 🤷♀️
I worked for a civil lawyer, you aren't kidding about the emails, and the paperwork.
All those added safety precautions on AHs depo requirements I think were delay tactics, she was requiring everyone be triple vaxxed, special cleaning, etc. I would be annoyed too.
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To be honest I would just be suspicious of the zoom deposition because of how much they brought it up and fight for it at every turn. Like we know Amber and her team were Shady but how are they going to be shady with the zoom call?
I’d be concerned they would be prompting or coaching her off screen. She got coached extensively during her divorce depo. We say her getting coached and led extensively during trial. I think that anyone connected with previous AH litigation would be concerned about that. Seems like speaking and leading objections are the way for all her legal counsel to behave.
@@sallycinnamon5370 oh definitely! She’d probably have notes & cue cards..
In my opinion is AH didn't want to do a in person depo because when she did the depo for her divorce they tore apart expressions/additude.
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Please do a do over of Elaine mocking depp "ull never see my eyes again" in the deep voice lol
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Ben doesnt want to agree to elaine because he has known of her antics and shady tactics for years.
Ben knows she's going to have someone prompting her just like she did in Court when one of Heards friends got chucked out by the judge. That's why he doesn't want her on zoom!
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AH and her team made sure to make more difficults to JD teams.. frustating.
I really don’t think amber was worried about covid at all.
Yeah, a stripper who takes mushrooms, adderall, and alcohol suddenly is worried about a virus. She’s a piece of work.
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Sounds like Elaine has been pulling BS the whole time regarding the depos, and Chew et al are fed up with it. Elaine then seems to be trying to grab on to any excuse and setting the bar so high, valid or not (opinions vary), that they can use it as an excuse not to allow her to be deposed in a timely matter, and then Elaine turns around when called and playing the "What? Me?" card. So no, no sympathy what so ever for Elaine or AH and their BS. Ben played this 1000% correct...
I absolutely get the concern for Whitney, the kids etc. However, I sense after so much prior experience with Amber's team Ben was at the end of even hiding his feelings. The previous motions suggest a team who really were throwing out every possible option they could think of, no matter how tenuous and twee, to see what they could get to stick. They also suggest a team not opposed to stretching the boundaries of what is allowed. That's not to say that JD and team didn't also do their own fair share of "FU" behaviour.
I was in the hospital during Covid before any vax was ready, then in the hospital and a Skilled Nursing Facility and outpatient physical therapy before getting the booster. And being in Florida the people around me didn't have to be vaxxed. And I have cardiopulmonary problems and am 71.
PTSD, which goes on AXIS I, is an anxiety disorder. Like Bipolar, Depression, and Schizophrenia it can be helped with medication and therapy. Personality Disorders, which go on AXIS II, are a different animal. With Axis I the level of symptomatic behavior can be reduced or intermittent. Personality Disorders, OTOH, affect a person's behavior all of the time. To ignore their impact upon a person's behavior is to ignore why the person behaves the way they do. This is all meant to understand people, not to judge them. You would do the mental health community a great service if you had on a psychiatrist or psychologist to help the nerds understand. Or even C. Hughes from The Behavior Panel. Besides being one of the world experts in behavior analysis he has degrees in neuroscience and psychology. He is familiar with the case, also.
Schizophrenia is not curable though as neither is bipolar but much of depression is
@@sounsure9108 I didn't say they were curable. They can be helped and controlled with medication, therapy, sleep hygiene, etc. They are not always symptomatic. It's like having a chronic medical condition that you have to take care of.
This Bridgerton woman is from 🇩🇰 Denmark...
And I Looooove watching you, I'm chronicle ill fighting sclerosis and arthritis, watching you you twice a week is the best, thank you for education people but also entertaining at the same time, you are amazing and I'm truly admiring you❤️
I watched this replay while waiting on pins & needles to find out how my dad was doing after a stroke. (He's got slurred speech--hopefully temporary--but he's otherwise okay, apart from the hospital room's TV not working.) Thank you for the badly needed distraction!
I hope he is doing better. Keep the faith!
@@vikkideanegomez So far so good, thank God!
Thinking about the people of KY... I'm in OH & LOVE Kentucky! It's a beautiful state with beautiful people. Prayers for safety and the crops...
Cant the Judge just say "Stop this foolishness, come in and testify ! ?
I wonder how much the judge knew about this at the time. As Elaine mentioned, court was closed on December 30 (and presumably 31). I doubt the judge was checking email at the time. She probably had boundaries and was not contactable at the time.
Everyone seems to have social anxiety too. It is frustrating when you have someone close who actually has this and see how deeply it effects having a life outside of home and being between the rock and the hard place of needing medical help but even going to an appointment it a big deal!!
Agreed!
Remember when E was needing precautions The Defendant was walking the waterfront, massless, sampling oysters.
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I was in the waiting pool to see this live but missed it for work. Love love love from Florida. Thank you for taking the time for Coffee and Cursey words.
Replay crew here! I love the message to not diagnose! “I am so OCD” is a huge problem with some people I’ve worked with. I so badly want to say “no, you’re just trying to make your problems mine. OCD is an actual diagnosis and disorder. Please just stop” Instead I bite my tongue and walk away.
Playing with the new soundboard timestamps:
0:02:20 got a new soundboard 🎉voices
0:03:13 voices, bleeping wtf Elaine
0:05:20 📢“Elaine, your microphone”
0:05:40 Monster voice with monster 🤣🤣
0:08:38 new asterisk (or 🦄) noise
1:01:40 playing with voices
1:05:04 Wtf Elaine bleeped
1:06:50 playing with voices
2:22:20 Yeeted reference, no you go frost
??? I am still not sure why all of the so called" abuse" incidents by Johnny would need be made public by AH in court, if ,in fact the Op Ed wasn't about him.
Love you, Emily! Always enjoy your intelligent points of view! Happy to be part of the community of lawnerds! Ha! Love learning about the legal stuff! Thanks for what you do! ❤🥰
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Heard's team are the perfect fit for her, as are probably Johnny's for him. Elaine's snark is just too long winded to take. The answer is no, Elaine...don't make Ben lock himself in a bathroom.
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Elaine's emails are exhausting! I don't blame Ben for not engaging with that...
Because AH is so vindictive, if I were JD, I would place the $2M down as the bond/trust needed for filing the appeal. Then whether the appeal is denied, or they finish it, and AH is still owed the $2M or less then to let the trust amount owed be released to her bank only after he has laid claim against her fat her bank for the $!0.350M and catch up whatever she may end up being owed before she even shows it was deposited into her account, so she cannot even for one second rejoice in anyway of receiving any money from him, and be stuck knowing that she couldn't even enjoy the money, nor have time to hide it and know she has thus paid him they amount he had paid out to her so, he would then be in the clear from owing her anything and she would still be on the hook for $8.350!!!
Thank you for advocating the chat to not focus on trying to label or diagnose someone. I am a Special Ed teacher that works with Preschool students that are on the spectrum. We teach the parents and others on campus to see the children for who they are and not what they are diagnosed with. It's so frustrating when I hear people labeling or playing it off to their diagnose.
I'm listening to this while doing housework...then I hear someone refer to a musician that has a site called "Lair of Voltaire" . It peaked my interest. And voila! He was the Voltaire I saw just down the road in Sydney Aus. My BIL bought him over a few times. He sang at my BIL 40th :)
The world is VERY small :)
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QUESTION: After all that, how did the depo disagreement turn out?
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Unfortunately I’m never live because of the time difference. I’m totally here for the cursey words, I’m streaming now at 22.58 CET, from Holland
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I can appreciate the concern over Omicron, but Ben knows exactly how beneficial it would have been for Heard to do her deposition via Zoom, and why he fiercely fought this. Amber is a deeply conniving, deceptive person capable of egregious tall-tale telling, and giving her free reign on Zoom, or in person with half her face covered would have been disastrous to keep her in check.
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I am love love loving your show and your humor. I discovered you during the Depp/Heard trial and am sticking around. A sister fan of period drama, I highly recommend "Gentleman Jack" (HBO/BBC) about Anne Lister, an early 19th Century landowner in Halifax GB. She happens to be brilliant, an adventurer, a socialite, traveler, obsessive diarist and a masculine dressing Lesbian who woos her young neighbor. The acting is magnificent (Surranne Jones is a marvel as Anne - I have a huge girl crush). Costumes are fabulous (Anne L wears a top hat), superb production value. You won't be disappointed I promise
She wanted the police there claiming that Depps fans would hurt her. She always says that.
And you don’t think they would ? You don’t think they’ve treated her appallingly? You think ANYONE who isn’t a child abuser/ murderer/serial killer deserves to endure the hell Amber Heard has? You Depp fans make me sick.
Right? Like, who leaked the location of the deposition, anyway? There's only one party in this that's notorious for doing so, and it ain't Depp. I wouldn't put it past Amber to leak it to the public somehow and then cry wolf like there's no tomorrow.
@@lanadeltorro7663 i can't even understand how you are writing all those things and actually believing it. You're sick, you are so amber.
@@lanadeltorro7663 Not exactly a Depp fan. Just watched the testimonies and agree with the jury. Amber Heard is just getting the same social media treatment that Depp got six years ago when he was canceled
@@lanadeltorro7663 If she is so worried it would happen she should provide her security and protect herself not expect someone else to do it. This is the twenty-first-century women are strong and independent not sniveling and whiny. If you are scared take care of it yourself! All I ever hear is Johnny has to do this for me, give me money, gimme gimme gimme whine whine whine here is some cheese with your whine.
1:23:30 AH still trying to demand everything from JD. Or they're trying to do the least possible to let them pocket that sweet insurance money.