Hell yeah brother, I missed your top 10, some sketches like things only classic player will understand, how to be guild master (do not know the exact name) or story videos like true story and more.
bro this is the first video of yours that i've watched since the machinima days, and I gotta say, you're doing great. I don't disagree with a single thing you've said in this video. hopefully i get around to watching some of your more recent videos now that i'm renewing my WoW sub!
@luxvult5202 Whether it's Zygor, Rested XP, Joana's (RIP) Leveling Guide, etc - none of these violate Blizzards TOS. They're guides moreso than addons. There's a difference, which is why these guys have been around since Vanilla / TBC and Blizzard has never shut them down, nor have they banned anyone for using or promoting them.
As someone who started WoW this year I definitely felt a lot of discouragement from the eceleb streamers saying stuff like “WoW is dead” or “Retail is dead, classic is better”
Don't listen to them, WoW's not dead, retail isn't dead, classic isn't dead. WoW's what you make it, have your fun your way and find a group who feels the same way. I've been a player since 08 (Start of Burning Crusade) and I'm still here, on a daily basis. On Retail. I have a couple of characters on Classic too.
Dont feel bad. These people been saying that since vanilla.. When AQ came out and severs went into meltdown, people started complaining and saying the game was dead because servers couldnt even stay online. Then on Naxx they said game was dead because people couldnt finish the new raid as it was too hard and people had gone into hiatus waiting for TBC instead. What you need to understand is that, what they realy mean is "This game is dead to me" because is no longer the way they want it, or because is too hard for them.
I'm the "my toon needs a tab on the Character page where I can write out his entire backstory, or a history of all the things I've done on that character with my friends and guild mates."
@@skodass1 I'd imagine he knows about TRP and states himself in a previous video he wishes Blizzard would add their own form of this to the actual base game. Which I 100% agree with, TRP is cool, but would be nice if Blizzard could implement their own form of it.
Although I suppose it technically falls under the 'WoW is dying' category the people who never stop talking about how WOTLK was the only good xpac and WoW hasn't been good since, those people are pretty obnoxious.
iv encountered this person thru a comment section in a nixxiom video funny enough, he refuses to acknowledge the rest of the WoW's story/expacs past WOTLK is sooooo goddamm annoying
Aye it's the equivalent of your bald-with-ponytail uncle that only listens to Journey and Foreigner because that's 'back when music really meant something, maaaann!'
Which is especailly annoying because wtlk, apart from couple good raids, was a really boring expansion, and is near the bottom of my list. I feel like most people just think so highly of it due to warcraft III nostalgia.
@@emmadilemma4177 refusing to acknowledge the lore after cata vs thinking WOTLK is the best xpac are two different things. The belief that the lore after Cata isn't true is based on the fact that it wasn't written by anyone who had anything to do with the WoW storyline but just a bunch of random people who made up random shit that didn't make any sense. Everything before hand was written by Metzen and the council. From Warcraft 1 until Cata it was all written by the same people. It's essentially fanfiction from Cata onward.
basically.. a race score leaderboard on numbers (being heal, dps or whatever else) the best player is #1 and 100%.. number 57th player is 99%... number 87898th player is 43%.
Yea parsing is the only reason I can reclear raids and keep the guild together. Just got a rank 53 for demo last Wednesday. It makes the game actually worth for me. Also I don't rip on people for their parses. I'm not a dick, just demand a lot from myself.
I agree with the I hate x part. I just like Warcraft. I want Warcraft to succeed. Through any iteration. More Warcraft. Let it be good no matter which version you prefer.
Yeah like the idiots who keep asking for tbc and wrath era when people quite literally stop playing wow altogether or went back to classic midway through their progression because it wasn't fun anymore, but still complain about blizzard making cata
You forgot the Boomer Idiot. The kinda guy who wants to see the old mechanics of Vanilla that were not exactly player friendly, but enriched the world. Hunters needing ammo / Quivers Warlocks needing soul shards Priests each having a racial spell Forsaken players taking extra damage from weapons that did extra damage to undead. Do these things make for well balanced game design? No. But they don't care about that. They want a world that makes sense and has a strong sense of verisimilitude. ... basically me. I'm that idiot. And I miss those things.
Not really an "Idiot" then. Just someone who appreciates Fantasy that makes Sense. _( Forsaken Players/NPC's counted as Undead and so on. )_ The greatest Idiots however are the People in the Forums, who *IMMEDIATELY* explode in a pathetic Hissy-fit as soon as someone mentions Ashes of Creation, and they wallow around like in their own Feces between Salt, Butthurt : and Panic and Anger because they know how stupid they will feel once it hits the Stage. WoW has become such a bad Addiction for so many. An abusive Relationship that is no longer what they loved to play once. Yet here they are, defending their *"Drxg DxxIer Blizzard"* who kicks them into the Face since BfA with intentionally bad and \/\/()ke Storywriting.
Running Heroic Magister's Terrace during TBC timerunning and it'd be a 50/50 shot of the tank being stuck fighting the first boss solo cause the barrier would proc before the rest of us could get inside.
Except private servers sell your data, sell gold to the xiangs that fill private servers, they often install Trojans on your PC, etc. but hey, it’s free 😂
@@keelhld94 you have no idea rofl. I posted my own experiences on Twow to streamer Guzu's YT channel (including a trojan installed on my PC) and my god the amount of vitriol I've received is hilarious.
I gotta say, me too. There was a moment in the “I have a wife and kids” section where I started to get a little nervous, but then I realized that I don’t tell anyone about my private life and I do play casually and still get tons of enjoyment out of WoW even after 2 decades.
I dont think WoW will ever die. They always do SOMETHING that keeps them going. Warbands is a great idea thats gonna bring me back. Im doing the WoW Remix at the moment and im loving it.
Especially if they want to kick people for no good reason. I remember way back in Wrath, I literally just dinged 80 and pugged into my first heroic dungeon on that character ever with the LFG system (it wasn't my main character). The healer is this t10(? whatever ICC's tier was) elitist shitbag who was shaming one of the other dps because their numbers were low. I mentioned mine were lower and next thing I know I get kicked. I have *despised* pugging myself in all forms every since (I don't care if I'm in a group and they decide to pug, though.)
Ok, but here’s where the social rubber meets the road. I don’t think hyper min-max is healthy for the average player. At the same time, if you’re trying to do mythic, push keys, hi end PvP, etc-if you’re not willing to do the work, you don’t get to whine when those who DO put in the work don’t wanna work with you. My aunt used to gem mP5 on her ret pali, bc it’ll certainly come in handy sometime…then complain that high end groups wouldn’t pick her up.
Playing Devil's advocate here. Not having Addons/WeakAuras + best talents/gear is okay. BUT! If you are pushing content that is on the edge of your abilities (lets say early high keys in M+), you gotta be prepared. Otherwise, you are making your party members work much harder, basically carrying you. If you dont want to optimise - dont go into content that requires you to be. There is so much else to do
Meeting the crazy people in this game and listening to massive arguments after the 20th wipe in a pug discord call is one of the most special parts of the game.
Gonna stick up for the "I have a life" guy (partially): Everyone obviously has a life, and your example (and this whole video clearly) is taken to an extreme for comedy and entertainment purposes (it's great; love your work dude), but I've always hated the argument that MMO's are not for solo players. It 100% can and should be AS A BASELINE. Arguing the game should "cater" to solo players...obviously an extreme, but arguing the game shouldn't provide solo content is a big mistake and will, imho, kill an MMO pretty quickly.
That's why I liked garrisons and class halls. I liked the questlines tied to them, the artificial respect given by npcs to the player, and sending npcs on missions while I busy myself with world-grind questing and cash in on the rewards later. I miss WoD.
Or, like me, tired of the other 9 kinds on that list and have actually had fun playing by myself. I am THRILLED with the follower dungeons. I can go at my own pace, or give lead to an NPC to drag me through. If I want to take time to kill everything in there, explore all the corners, I can do that by taking lead. I am not at the mercy of that "gotta run fast" dude. I wish there was a way for raids to be that way. Without a guild, it's really not fun to run raids due to the same "run fast" guys in LFR. I spent 9 hours playing yesterday, had a blast doing it, but wasn't dealing with others. I'm doing remix and running scenarios and running up characters and having a great time.
I've been on both sides. From Vanilla to the end of MoP, I did tons of group content and was constantly in contact with online friends doing things together. WoD kinda killed that vibe with the garrisons and I missed the latter half of that expansion because I wasn't feeling it. Came back with Legion and started to casual play and solo farm things that I wanted. Farming pets, transmogs, mounts, titles, weird items that may or may not have a use. Things like that. Suddenly, I found that there was a lot I could do just on my own. The only things that were off limits to me were the endgame raids and dungeons (and pvp, I guess, but I never did pvp before either, so I don't count it). Still playing that way all these years later. It may not be how you're supposed to play the game because social contact is kind of the point, but I get that from other things in my life and when I log into WoW, I just kinda chill and do my own solo content farming. Put on a music playlist and chip away at the next grind for a few hours. I don't think I've even spoken to another player in the game in 5+ years. I typically just ignore what other people are doing and focus on my own thing. May be a touch extreme taking it that far and I'm not saying you have to go that far, but the game does offer enough to let you do that, if you want to. You can definitely occupy yourself with plenty of ingame activities for a long, long time, especially now that we're like 10 expansions down the line.
Yo Nixxiom. Great Vid as always, but you missed an important annoying one: "The AFK Guy" - The guy you plan some dungeon runs with, that shows up late while you wait. When online he tells You to wait so he goes quickly to the AH to buy Flasks. When finally you found the full group and go summon he goes on a Bio. Then finally inside the dungeon goes AFK on the ready check and ofc never releases when everyone else is on a corpse run because he is off snatching food and drinks which will occupy him for the rest of the run. He will have his focus fully set on the food next to him making him the 1st one to die 15 secs into the fight and enjoy the show the others put up while eating his popcorn "This is a good run" *OmNomNom! At least i know one, but i still love him man
Yeah, it's crazy how this isn't brought up more often but for people who live in places which doesn't use us dollars, pound sterling or euros, the game is insanely expensive now, thanks to inflation.
I do sympathize with the 'I have a life' type since my work schedule does put me at odds when everyone else on my server's on and doing stuff. It took eventually finding others who also work in my job field to help mitigate the situation. Not everyone gets it that for us, we're in our busy times when most have free time like working weekends or pulling overtime during summer.
But the thing is, if a game caters with most of its content with "casual" instant gratification type of gameplay, both party loses. You get something fast, which will have zero value, and the game loses integirty. You just have to accept that your life won't let you to play the game as much as you would want to. That is it. I'm a casual player and I accepted that I will have those awesome transmogs a few expansions later than right now, when I can solo the raids because they become legacy content. You just have to accept that you are not the sole target audience, and let more timegifted players have their fun and meaingful rewards as once you had, probably when you were younger.
@@arnoldnemeth8578 I completely agree with you on the you make do with what time you have. Soloing legacy content describes a substantial portion of my gametime. I just really understand being in the position where you're kinda stuck because there's other priorities on the table. Expecting the game to cater to my outside of most everyone else's work schedule is insanity to me. If I ever pulled the 'I have a life' card, I'd expect to be blacklisted from the game for being that much of a shleb.
Most people who play WoW in 2024 are grown ups with jobs, families and lives. Things aren't like they were in 2006 when the game had a mostly young audience with all the time in the world to sit and prefect their character. Casuals like us ARE the target audience now and the developers have done a great job moving the focus of the game to adults. There's still a niche for people who have to prove how huge and veiny their virtual manhood is, but it's not the focus, and that's wonderful.
As a new player this game does look dead. I even joined a couple of wow Facebook groups and discords trying to find people to play with of some sort. i did get a couple of responses but not very many(compared to the amount of people in those groups) its really making me think twice about buying a sub and let alone the preorder for the next expansion(I kind of want to return it at this point..) I'm going to keep at it to see if I will find a group or someone eventually but so far my experience has been pretty bad.. (even one of the responses I got, they told me to just read and learn the game for a month then start playing.. like I bought this to play it not to just read..) That's my rant lol. I just want to experience the fun of this MMO.
Some realms are not well populated. Try a busier one perhaps but if you are just playing without sub consider there's restrictions and where you might be in the game world is relatively quiet. Capital city and end game zones are usually buzzing.
The problem is that Blizzard force the newest expansion down your throat. There are no servers for older expansions. And now, they are doing the same thing with Classic.
The problem with "the game is dead" guy in mmos is that people play mmos to play with others but if they think other people stop playing then they stop, thus making a self-fufilling prophecy. But wow ain't dying for a while. Atleast not worse then Shadowlands
This is what i thought with Day9 recent 'review' of WoW. Im a new player too but i enjoyed retail. I respect his opinion and i know wheres he's coming from. But i just enjoyed WoW for what it is. Doing quest, leveling, casually playing at my own pace. Just recently i tried LFR in MoP remix and i love it. Playing with others scares me since im really new to WoW and afraid im not contributing anything to the raid/dungeon run. But random run with pug feel not bad at all. I enjoyed my time atm with WoW and can see why this game stand strong after all these yrs. Looking forward for TWW.
If I could add one more type of person that is my true enemy in WoW it’s the “LFG/LFR ruined the game” guy. I had the most fun playing wow after they added LFG/LFR. It made it so much easier to experience all of the content available I didn’t have to spam LF DEADMINES in general chat, I didn’t have to organize a group that wanted to do the content I wanted to do. All I had to do was press I on my keyboard and suddenly I’m playing with a group and enjoying group content. Players that truly feel like LFG/LFR killed the game are just so lame to me and honestly ruined classic for me since I’m forced to spam the game chat to make a group or to GDKP which also is just ridiculous from my point of view.
Best thing about P-Server shills: They play on builds that have an ingame shop that at times charges for items that are basic game rewards ingame. And the more you read from them the more obvious it becomes: They just don't want to pay to play WoW.
Nixxiom I think you forgot an important one: the Guy that says the game is bad, not for them. yet keep their subs on and keeps jumping in once every red moon. Just to say the game is still bad.
As someone who plays multiple MMOs and an older sibling - The tribal idiots trying to say other things/versions suck never had an older/younger sibling call them a nerd for liking video games and it shows. If someone likes something let them like it, you do some stupid stuff that others think youre dumb for too and if you think you dont youre lying to yourself. AND anyone who rushes to return to being bored rather than rushing to play the 17 games on backlog is a fool. Dont sit in tradechat bored - go play DD2 or Helldivers or something.
I’m an old guy. Both my sons played wow when it came out. They pretty much played it all the way through. I played some in wotlk. Now they’re grown I started playing sod and in Cata with them. I am enjoying it. I have more free time to play it now. We leveled in phase 3 in less then a day. And raided in the first lockout. We’re still raiding and struggling to fill the raid and everyone is complaining. I don’t mind the extra time in phase 3. I shoulda started in vanilla classic. Being new to the game the longer phases gives me more time to level in Cata.
Personally, I would prefer this game to be single player, like the Warcraft games before it, but that doesn't mean I don't like some aspect of this game. I get addicted to it all the same! And it is probably the only MMO that I will ever get addicted to! Also I FINALLY got the Tomb Stalker mount for my Troll Death knight.
I was going to say “wow isn’t dead, just spiritually dead” because my experience with BFA was so bad. But then I remembered how great Legion was and damn, I am suddenly jonsing for some wow
Unfortunately, I have to say that: - WoW is dead (preshot: I told ya) - I hate all versions of WoW - I love private servers (because I hate Blizzard, obviously) - My teamates are garbage and this is their fault if we lost - Let me speedrun that MMO and complain about how fast it is! - I got 7 jobs, what's you gonna do about it? - Competition is the best, casual is the pest - WoW is dead (again) and is going worst and worst every SECOND - Let us all be sheeps without brain - Let us also be wolves among sheeps Tips: I play Troll and everything up there is the exact contrary of what I'm thinking and saying to the community. Please be smart and kind, cheers! PS: Love the video and 100% agree on all of it (I'm not a sheep though) BONUS Correct version: - WoW got a long time ahead (even 5 years is huge... still I'm gonna be sad when the time comes) - I like every version of WoW, no exceptions (but my favourite is still and pretty will always be Legion) - I played on private servers (shame on me) but cannot again after I went on official (since WotLK) where there is no quest bug at every corner. - My teamates are often bad, but I'm not that good either (that's why I don't PvP much) - I love to discover one expansion and then do it again with my alts (and not focus on endgame bias) - I got one job and enough time to play WoW (wife & kids is an overrated thing - just kidding) - Competitors amaze me, not the players who tell you how to play their way - WoW got his good and bad, but every expansion has its splendors - Let us not be sheep, and play/say as we really like (whether it's disliked or not) - Let us not be wolves and respect the way others are playing and enjoying the game Cheers! (bis)
Been aying since 2005 or 06, nowadays i unfortunately dont play like i use to. I finished BFA but haven't finished the last 2 xpacks and makes me sad. But ill never hate on a game that gave me the fondest memories of my gaming life and the day they shut down the servers, ill probably tear up because the memories will comeback even stronger
Nix, i totally agree. the speed runners ruin it for the rest of us who dont run that fast thru content. I went from playing for hours a day because i enjoy it , to playing for maybe an hour a week because its no fun anymore. I started playing a game called Palia, created by several game developers from many large companies , they branched off and created their own game. its alot of fun , tons to do , a garden to tend, a house to build , there is hunting and gathering and cake parties . and so much . the community is warm and welcoming and FRIENDLY .
i haven't watched Nixxiom since the "AAAAUGH~! ISHNU ALLA~!" days. I'm glad he's still immensely based. I'm getting into WoW RP when i resub on friday! I've only dabbled into it before despite being a writer at heart, but hey, better late than never, and i'm gonna try and just not care about what people tell me about the game I've been playing since Burning Crusade released. I also kind of used to only do the "Only one type of content" kinda thing, mostly because I never enjoyed PVP, but ever since i discovered that you can solo old dungeons, i've been foaming at the mouth for transmogs.
Genre back than : WoW Community vs other game communitys. Today: WoW community vs WoW community about different versions of WoW which are in the same sub
Honorable mentions that I think people catch a lot of hell for: Garrisons were fun, Shadowlands covenant system wasn't terrible, there is more to life than loot, and my personal favorite which ties to the hopeless idiot "There's no point in raiding or pushing for endgame purple/orange gear when it's just gonna get replaced with garbage greens next expansion, rinse repeat".
The speedy player is victim of the game design. Once a new expansion hits there’s a huge incentive to reach max level to get ready for raid. If you missed that train. You are not going to be invited to pugs. You’d always going to fight from behind in uphill battle. 2- you are paying to play. 15 USD for 4 raids lockouts per character and 4 loots chances per boss. If you missed that, you are wasting your money. 3- the End games content is time gated. You have limited time chances to get progress in per your monthly subscription.
Well on that I get you but there is satisfaction knowing you just outhealed 3 guys in a 40 man with far better gear and you're punching above your weight ;)
Nixxiom. My guy. You’re absolutely right about the complaining with speed running. but there are TONS of people who prefer running through the experience as swift as possible. Some people even adore it. Just look at the m+ numbers. Shouldt be calling those people idiots. We are trying to grow this game, not make it a cesspool of negativity
5:14 ok so let me stop you right here. "Rpg's are games, that are meant to suck you into the world to give you a good story and adventure." WoW, especially where retail is concerned, has lost a massive CHUNK of the aspects of an RPG. On top of this the stories have been dogwater-luke warm over the last two expansions, as have the adventures (even more so with the adventures as they just end up being a routine with no value). This isn't even fully about no lifing the game, I played DF and SL casual af and ran out of things to do that I felt mattered. But sure, go off.
I only play private servers because they’re free. Got nothing against the company. But after spending over 1000 dollars in monthly subscriptions charges and still not feeling accomplished in some way among other things, I gave up on paying for it.
I remember a guy in trade chat sitting in Shatt back in BC who was willing to bet _anything_ he owned that WoW would never attempt a third expansion because "the game is dead". The "welfare epics" and casuals had killed it dead and Blizz would hang up their MMO aspirations forever.
I bet he's still playing too, because he thinks he can tell folks how BC was everything and the other expansions are "stupid". Yeah, I have known that guy.
Loved this video! Community is filled with tons of doom and gloom, negativity, and trolls that you will meet. However, there are 10x as many people who are nice, courteous, and great to play with across all versions. That is why I continue to play.
I got friends who do not play anymore theybspeed run like idiots. While i and mybwife play casual every day. The rush all and then cry there is no content. And game is dead. And i am like well i play every day after work in the evening. And they do everything during the day. At least i keep playing and enjoying remix right now. And i enjoy retail.
The guy(s) who are the "dungeons are to be fast and wrecked". I have hated pugs because of these guys. You get into a dungeon and they run ahead, killing bosses before the rest of the group gets there. Woe be it if you don't know the layout or it's your first time in there, you get lost, tough, figure it out. Case in point, I haven't done a Pandaria dungeon since it was current content. I got into Stormstout Brewery with a pug group. Two of us were picking up the books for the quest. I was just running to keep up. The three of us took too much time and got locked out of the third and further bosses, couldn't go in, couldn't get there. The tank and a dps ended up finished before we could get started. Yeah, that guy (and all of his brothers and sisters) should be on that list.
i like mmos and warcraft universe, but i really sometimes dont have time to play wow as much as i want, also i like to play wow solo without guilds, like roleplaying as outcast. adding some singleplayer activities to wow might not be a bad idea.
They're doing more for solo players in the war within from what I've read, between Delves making it so you can actually do some dungeon stuff on your own and Warbands letting you share resources between your own characters. I support this, because even though i love the community aspect of MMOs, not everyone has time for them.
You forgot the people in heroic and mythic 0 dungeons who treat it like a military bootcamp and if you step out of line (pull something you wernt meant too, rip aggro because the tanks sucks or just generally just breathe wrong) then these guys just explode and vote kick you (in normal/heroic) people who three stack should not be allowed to vote kick anyone. Anyway, I was in a M0 Neltharus and kept ripping aggro from the tank on my alt and the tank thought i was taunting them and raged about how i am expendable and not the tank. They simply could not understand me when i tried to explain how I was getting aggro, i think they were from FF14 or something.
So far I've been doing many dungeons in Cata, while leveling and both normal & heroics for gear. The worst person BY FAR is the hunter who keeps ninjapulling because he wants to save a few seconds here and there but 9/10 times causes the run to take longer due to deaths and/or mob abilities not being interrupted because there are too many of them so they either heal or do massive aoe damage. And of course, anyone who unironically plays a gnome, those weirdos.
For number 7, I feel it is the same as the people who play PvP games and complain that they don't perform because "they have a life, and therefore can't commit as much time in getting good and they are just there to relax." Why in the world would you play a stressful PvP game for relaxation? Go play any other story-focused game and get 100 times more enjoyment out of your day!
To be fair; I’d say the “rush to the end” is less of a problem on its own and more a result of how classic/retail is scheduled. If you only have a year before the next expansion drops; you’re not going to feel inclined to spend half that time leveling up and getting stuck behind with PuGs or GDKPs
The queue times for BG's in Dragonflight is so ridiculous. I LOVE BGs, but it seems way worse than when I had last played. I don't mind paying the 15 a month, but the one thing I like to pad my XP with is BGs and can't even get in is so infuriating.
My buddy Matt gets upset that I don't use builds or walkthroughs and just kinda play the game when making my builds. I think it's mostly because I tend to out DPS him more often than not, or my particular build doesn't get nerfed into the dirt every other patch.
100% agree about the "3rd party" guy. And for what it's worth, I've been playing since Vanilla. I can honestly say one of the most enjoyable times I've had with this game is when I rolled a new Hunter when WOD came out and maxed it out completely "in-game" (no guides, add-ons, websites, etc) and no heirlooms. It took me 8 or 9 months but I had a blast. Made me remember how much fun I had when I first started playing.
I resonate with the disdain for people that rush to max level and then complain that the game does have any content. I’ve had friends like that. Time and time again have I just been chill leveling slow to get the most out of the game and they’ve already progress several quests ahead of me. Needless to say, I’m still friends with them irl, but I never level with them anymore.
Okay, about Skyrim... I did try to go through the main storyline at first in Skyrim, because most games i played before it like: Jedi Knight 1 + 2 + Jedi Academy, Diablo 2, Oni, ect. But after a while, i did realise that the sidequests are what makes Skyrim such a biiiig adventuring game. (By the time i got to the bad dragon, he didn't stand a chance... lol)
I feel that 5th one too much. When Dragonflight first came out i know of people who were competing to find out who got to max level first, and then complained raids and such weren't coming out fast enough.
I admit, I used to be the "There's nothing to do..." kind of player. At least in regards to pushing to get to max level, get my dailies, weeklies and such done and afterwards be bored since I tend to only main 1 character at any given time. However... After Shadowlands I quit all of that, to some extent. I still main 1 (maybe 2) character(s) for gear mainly what I can get from LFR, Heroic Dungeons and through the weekly stuff. Outside of that though I stopped pushing for gear and tend to play on my low level Twinks for fun nowadays. Currently journeying through older zones on a level 20 Twink with no spec, no mounts and no dungeons. While the journey will take longer, it has made my professions feel more important, and thus the experience has been more enjoyable for me.
Blizzard servers are always better than private servers. But the only feedback blizzard takes is from their accountants. I love WoW. Which is why ill continue to boycott giving them money. 😇
BG mainers are literally most wow players lol. They just actively keep working against their own best interests. And in my experience, it is almost entirely Alliance players that do this. Plenty of horde going "reeeee HoRdE dUmB Durrr" or shittalk their whole team the whole match instead of playing.. I just reply to whatever they say with "Less QQ, more PewPew" or "less typing, more sniping". I have them as macros and they usually work.
-In my experience, Alliance IS worse at PVP battlegrounds than Horde. I don't know why, but i lost far more as Alliance than Horde. -As someone who had a life when i played WoW, i would have loved to be able to be able to join the high end raids, but I didn't have the gear and got stuck in LFR hell and it drove me away from WoW more than once. And the few times I had the gear, the specific class that was OP for the season, I didn't have a guild that raided/or they were full/or i had work or college on the raid days. As a very low percentage of people see the higher end raids when they are current, i would argue that the game is being elitist and obnoxious. And i play MMOs to be social, that is the point of them.
I am the "has a life" guy because I have a family that requires a lot of my free time but I do NOT want the game to be as casual as possible Nixxiom, I swear!
Yes Nixxiom, please! There are new top 10 idiots of WOW, new top 10 coziest places on Azeroth, 10 new scariest places, etc. I am a fan of your top 10 series that you made in the past. Please make a new version of these videos or at least some of them. The game has changed, so many new zones, continents, and hidden places. I would love to see your modern WOW favorite zones too!
The whole Speed Run to highest level problem pretty much exists across all MMOs at this point and even the devs encourage it when they sell an item in the store that instantly boosts you to highest level. And a lot of it probably from peer pressure of people thinking they won’t be able to join friends or guilds in dungeon raids or joining guilds where it’s a must or a rule to be highest level with best on slot gear. And funny enough most people who complain about it also do it because, how else are you gonna get the “you’re not playing efficiently enough” monkey off your back who keeps whispering those words in your ears? People who complain about no content are the same people who laugh at people who aren’t playing tHe MeTa or Efficiently. Which again is usually what gives off the mind set that people have to get through everything as fast as possible. It’s a problem in ANY mmo. I guess the best way to put it is that every problem person on this list usually comes from the same problematic tree, the “You have to play efficiently” tree, other wise you’re bad and can’t join the guild, etc.
So I am that idiot with a "life", but I am self-aware enough to realize that I can't get through group stuff, and focus my energy elsewhere. Ain't no point in bitching about how I can't get endgame content I won't set time aside for.
I play on private servers but have never once shamed anyone who pays for Blizzards stuff. If people honestly think Blizzard products are worth the money then God Bless. I will stick to giving my money to the private servers as I find them more fun and hopefully no one shames me for that either.
I'm the guy that keeps on saying on the in-game chat to Blizzard to contact me so we can bring Warcraft to life as a full theme park attraction and more and beyond
Meta players are the most annoying and destroying the game because if you don't mim-max stats pre-bis with a specific Race Class combo then you're never getting into any raid on dungeons because your damage is 1999 instead of 2000
HEAVY on the content rushers because they create a vacuum that sucks other normal players into rushing if they want to keep up with end game content. When i played classic in Lockdown the world felt so alive because they were people taking at their own pace, you could find people in every zone
Everybody rushing through content is a direct result of them putting time crunches on everything. Most people don't have the time to stop and smell the roses because they don't want to be left behind. If you're like me and have little time to play, ERA is actually a great game for character progression that you will never lose so it's very casual friendly. Play at your own pace and ignore the idiots who try to dictate how to play the game that YOU pay for. If you want to talk about the infuriating part of the game (at least for me) is that every time there's new content everyone wants a fresh start. I don't. I've done that five or six times now. I'm tired of having to start over. Here's to hoping that they backdate ERA with some changes to make things better, doubt it will happen but who knows!
I dont disagree with the wow is dead guy, but a slightly different perspective. It's not that the playercount is dying, it's that most of the world is empty because blizz incentivise rushing to max which is best done by playing through last expac and then playing solely in the current expac zone.
Guilty of running through the content fast, thank you Zygor. I do play 27 characters and want to get them to end game. I am looking forward to the War Within and the new Questing meta where once my main reaches max level the next Character in line can start questing where the main left off. It means I can finally read everything to better understand the story. I stopped playing at the end of MOP and returned at the end of Shadowlands. It's taken me this entire expansion to relearn how to play WoW. Things sure have changed. Currently I'm putting everyone to bed, cleaning bags and banks and take a couple months off to recharge my own batteries. Looking forward to pre-patch and the War Within.
@@zytha2890 It's all because of sharding/layering etc. though. Everyones on..just cant see a lot of them unless you're trying. Which has it's ups and downs, so I get it lol
I think wow has the biggest amount of these people that will just keep saying this people that have not played the game for many years and have no good knowledge about the state of the game but they will ALWAYS comment on facebook/twitter about new wow patch/update to say how it doesn't matter because the game is dead or some other hate comment they must always comment and let everyone know that the game is dead despite not even playing it instead of just stop following the news about wow or just don't comment at all.
Got my first proper steps into wow this month. Looking forward to to experiencing my first expansion launch day, but the "Wow is dead" spammers under every teaser, video and help chat really puts a damper on things :/ I just want to bonk demons on the head with the power of The Light, and my Big Hammer
Yeah... im the guy who's stopped trying to do group content anymore because people are so fucking toxic. In BoA I decided i really needed to learn how to tank properly. So i queued for a group to do random dungeons. I warned my group mates that i was new to tanking and just learning. Somewhere along the line i took a wrong turn and we missed a boss. I quickly discovered that we couldn't get back, and inexplicably i was kicked. The last comment i gott from one of the group was that i should delete WoW from my HD, burn my computer, and kill myself. Thats why i do solo where i can and pretty much skip the rest. But im happy to play what i can do.
the reason why there is an increase in the 5th kind of idiot is because there has been an increase in Blizzard designing the game around that style of play every "season" you basically have to regrind gear from scratch? it caters to no one except that type of player
I was there during Shadowland patch, telling my friends that I sense WOW is going to die, how gameplay design are getting stagnant(for the first time I was so bored I started beating 25+ keystone dungeon) and story is real dog sh@t, but the scariest thing is the drama inside Blizzard, I thought this would be the start of a downfall, then Blizzard broke up with China, I was genuinely shocked, but then I see Dragonflight's quality has bounced back and recently there are news about Blizzard returning to China this summer, and thus I have witnessed this game's impressive ability to survive and thrive in today's market.
My favorite is private server Andy's that complain about the monetization of wow, while they play private servers that give out bis gear, gold, titles, and mounts for "donations". Or the ones who actively buy gold from g 2 g and then complain about the wow token.
Hey Nixxiom do you 'retire' your characters once they hit 70? I mean if you don't get anymore experience points what is the point? Just wondered how you handled getting to the top level. Thanks.
many people do, especially after gear progression was made pointless by frequent resets via catch up gear. I just quit the game because im not making another alt to have oh- 5 days of fun untill its stuck in endgame pointless gear grind again.
Been a LONG time since I've made a video like this one. Did I miss anyone that should've been on the list, perhaps?
I have nothing to contribute sire, tis flawless as is.
Hell yeah brother, I missed your top 10, some sketches like things only classic player will understand, how to be guild master (do not know the exact name) or story videos like true story and more.
bro this is the first video of yours that i've watched since the machinima days, and I gotta say, you're doing great. I don't disagree with a single thing you've said in this video. hopefully i get around to watching some of your more recent videos now that i'm renewing my WoW sub!
11# The one that wants to sell you a paid add-on that goes against the TOS of the game and that takes away all the fun of questing.
@luxvult5202 Whether it's Zygor, Rested XP, Joana's (RIP) Leveling Guide, etc - none of these violate Blizzards TOS. They're guides moreso than addons. There's a difference, which is why these guys have been around since Vanilla / TBC and Blizzard has never shut them down, nor have they banned anyone for using or promoting them.
As someone who started WoW this year I definitely felt a lot of discouragement from the eceleb streamers saying stuff like “WoW is dead” or “Retail is dead, classic is better”
Asmon in particular just REALLY hates df for some reason idk why. Most of his points about the expac are kinda dogshit.
Don't listen to them, WoW's not dead, retail isn't dead, classic isn't dead. WoW's what you make it, have your fun your way and find a group who feels the same way. I've been a player since 08 (Start of Burning Crusade) and I'm still here, on a daily basis. On Retail. I have a couple of characters on Classic too.
@@camorucamoru4664 it's cause he's racist, he doesnt want peace, he wants the Horde and Alliance to bring each other to extinction.
Dont feel bad. These people been saying that since vanilla.. When AQ came out and severs went into meltdown, people started complaining and saying the game was dead because servers couldnt even stay online. Then on Naxx they said game was dead because people couldnt finish the new raid as it was too hard and people had gone into hiatus waiting for TBC instead.
What you need to understand is that, what they realy mean is "This game is dead to me" because is no longer the way they want it, or because is too hard for them.
Same thing when I started playing during shadowlands, like damn dude let me enjoy the game
I am the "My character needs a last name." guy. 😁
I'm the "my toon needs a tab on the Character page where I can write out his entire backstory, or a history of all the things I've done on that character with my friends and guild mates."
@@NixxiomOnUA-cam I hate to be that guy, but: theres an addon for that :P
@@skodass1 I'd imagine he knows about TRP and states himself in a previous video he wishes Blizzard would add their own form of this to the actual base game. Which I 100% agree with, TRP is cool, but would be nice if Blizzard could implement their own form of it.
TRP3. Go. Don't want that in the game.
I like to see who is down to RP and who is a peasant that don't. So I'm content with the status quo.
They should. It's another avenue of customization.
Although I suppose it technically falls under the 'WoW is dying' category the people who never stop talking about how WOTLK was the only good xpac and WoW hasn't been good since, those people are pretty obnoxious.
iv encountered this person thru a comment section in a nixxiom video funny enough, he refuses to acknowledge the rest of the WoW's story/expacs past WOTLK is sooooo goddamm annoying
Aye it's the equivalent of your bald-with-ponytail uncle that only listens to Journey and Foreigner because that's 'back when music really meant something, maaaann!'
Which is especailly annoying because wtlk, apart from couple good raids, was a really boring expansion, and is near the bottom of my list. I feel like most people just think so highly of it due to warcraft III nostalgia.
ironically he is one of those guys
@@emmadilemma4177 refusing to acknowledge the lore after cata vs thinking WOTLK is the best xpac are two different things. The belief that the lore after Cata isn't true is based on the fact that it wasn't written by anyone who had anything to do with the WoW storyline but just a bunch of random people who made up random shit that didn't make any sense. Everything before hand was written by Metzen and the council. From Warcraft 1 until Cata it was all written by the same people. It's essentially fanfiction from Cata onward.
Been playing since TBC and I still don't know what Parsing means hahaha
OG Vanilla me either
basically.. a race score leaderboard on numbers (being heal, dps or whatever else)
the best player is #1 and 100%.. number 57th player is 99%... number 87898th player is 43%.
Yea parsing is the only reason I can reclear raids and keep the guild together. Just got a rank 53 for demo last Wednesday. It makes the game actually worth for me. Also I don't rip on people for their parses. I'm not a dick, just demand a lot from myself.
I agree with the I hate x part. I just like Warcraft. I want Warcraft to succeed. Through any iteration. More Warcraft. Let it be good no matter which version you prefer.
Yeah like the idiots who keep asking for tbc and wrath era when people quite literally stop playing wow altogether or went back to classic midway through their progression because it wasn't fun anymore, but still complain about blizzard making cata
I love Warcraft, but hate Blizzard... Who completely scammed their Warcraft iii community...
You forgot the Boomer Idiot.
The kinda guy who wants to see the old mechanics of Vanilla that were not exactly player friendly, but enriched the world.
Hunters needing ammo / Quivers
Warlocks needing soul shards
Priests each having a racial spell
Forsaken players taking extra damage from weapons that did extra damage to undead.
Do these things make for well balanced game design? No. But they don't care about that. They want a world that makes sense and has a strong sense of verisimilitude.
... basically me. I'm that idiot. And I miss those things.
i miss Quivers/Ammo Belts, but not the need to replenish Ammo.
Quivers we're cool but fuck soul shards being a physical item.
Needing a feather to cast feather fall.
Not really an "Idiot" then. Just someone who appreciates Fantasy that makes Sense. _( Forsaken Players/NPC's counted as Undead and so on. )_
The greatest Idiots however are the People in the Forums, who *IMMEDIATELY* explode in a pathetic Hissy-fit as soon as someone mentions Ashes of Creation,
and they wallow around like in their own Feces between Salt, Butthurt : and Panic and Anger because they know how stupid they will feel once it hits the Stage.
WoW has become such a bad Addiction for so many. An abusive Relationship that is no longer what they loved to play once. Yet here they are, defending their *"Drxg DxxIer Blizzard"* who kicks them into the Face since BfA with intentionally bad and \/\/()ke Storywriting.
@@AszkalonOfVerra the thing is, those some Fantasy enthusiasts ARE the forums doing that exact shit.
People who pull bosses without the whole raid being there.... like...damn.
Because it's the "worst thing in the world" to wait 45 seconds for the rest of the raid to get in the room...
Running Heroic Magister's Terrace during TBC timerunning and it'd be a 50/50 shot of the tank being stuck fighting the first boss solo cause the barrier would proc before the rest of us could get inside.
Leeeeeroyyyy
"...kind of an idiot. on a side note this channel is sponsered by zygor..." 🤣
Link in the description! *Flex*
You'd have to be an idiot to pay for a service that just tells you what quests to do in an mmo. Just... play the game?
😂
Hahahaha, did bro just described every type of Asmon spergs, and Asmon himself xD
Asmon is a sperg himself
All thèse idiots be like « truuuuue »
It ticked him that asmon said Addons should be totally removed since he's paid by Zygore
The burn through in a week…..to many of those sheeeesh…
Blizz is indeed garbage company. Nothing wrong with playing on private.
Not at all, but not everyone wants to hear about it how you’ve “beat the man”.
Except private servers sell your data, sell gold to the xiangs that fill private servers, they often install Trojans on your PC, etc. but hey, it’s free 😂
@@tangofett4065 then they can float the fuck away...
@@keelhld94 you have no idea rofl. I posted my own experiences on Twow to streamer Guzu's YT channel (including a trojan installed on my PC) and my god the amount of vitriol I've received is hilarious.
surprised im not on the list
I gotta say, me too. There was a moment in the “I have a wife and kids” section where I started to get a little nervous, but then I realized that I don’t tell anyone about my private life and I do play casually and still get tons of enjoyment out of WoW even after 2 decades.
You're too cool to be on this list. :)
I dont think WoW will ever die. They always do SOMETHING that keeps them going. Warbands is a great idea thats gonna bring me back. Im doing the WoW Remix at the moment and im loving it.
You forgot about the "Sweaty raid lead who only plays 1 class telling people how to play their class." guy.
#1 spot is HARD RESERVED for players who vote to kick players from dungeons and report player names
Especially if they want to kick people for no good reason. I remember way back in Wrath, I literally just dinged 80 and pugged into my first heroic dungeon on that character ever with the LFG system (it wasn't my main character). The healer is this t10(? whatever ICC's tier was) elitist shitbag who was shaming one of the other dps because their numbers were low. I mentioned mine were lower and next thing I know I get kicked. I have *despised* pugging myself in all forms every since (I don't care if I'm in a group and they decide to pug, though.)
I used to be the classic Andy guy. decided to give retail a shot and I'm having more fun than I had in years
This should be titled - Top 10 things that will never change in wow -
the one that hate casual is the one that i hate the most. i am always kind to ppl that are new or dont know the mecanic
Right.
We are here to have fun and make friends.
@@DavidUnger-j6f one time i wipe like maybe 6 time in my keys and we lost the timer np to next time
15 dollars for a whole month's entertainment.
15 dollars is a sober night at a bar.
Third party website guy could also be certain content creators pushing Zygor all the time ;)
They pay the bills, without it they may not be here to stream. I totally get sponsorships.
Ok, but here’s where the social rubber meets the road. I don’t think hyper min-max is healthy for the average player. At the same time, if you’re trying to do mythic, push keys, hi end PvP, etc-if you’re not willing to do the work, you don’t get to whine when those who DO put in the work don’t wanna work with you.
My aunt used to gem mP5 on her ret pali, bc it’ll certainly come in handy sometime…then complain that high end groups wouldn’t pick her up.
Playing Devil's advocate here. Not having Addons/WeakAuras + best talents/gear is okay. BUT! If you are pushing content that is on the edge of your abilities (lets say early high keys in M+), you gotta be prepared. Otherwise, you are making your party members work much harder, basically carrying you. If you dont want to optimise - dont go into content that requires you to be. There is so much else to do
"Noooo! We can't just cater to a wide audience! We can only cater to elite players!"
Ironically the games loop is too hard.
Meeting the crazy people in this game and listening to massive arguments after the 20th wipe in a pug discord call is one of the most special parts of the game.
I don't think I have ever seen a pug that didn't disband long before 20 wipes.
Gonna stick up for the "I have a life" guy (partially):
Everyone obviously has a life, and your example (and this whole video clearly) is taken to an extreme for comedy and entertainment purposes (it's great; love your work dude), but I've always hated the argument that MMO's are not for solo players. It 100% can and should be AS A BASELINE. Arguing the game should "cater" to solo players...obviously an extreme, but arguing the game shouldn't provide solo content is a big mistake and will, imho, kill an MMO pretty quickly.
That's why I liked garrisons and class halls. I liked the questlines tied to them, the artificial respect given by npcs to the player, and sending npcs on missions while I busy myself with world-grind questing and cash in on the rewards later. I miss WoD.
Or, like me, tired of the other 9 kinds on that list and have actually had fun playing by myself. I am THRILLED with the follower dungeons. I can go at my own pace, or give lead to an NPC to drag me through. If I want to take time to kill everything in there, explore all the corners, I can do that by taking lead. I am not at the mercy of that "gotta run fast" dude. I wish there was a way for raids to be that way. Without a guild, it's really not fun to run raids due to the same "run fast" guys in LFR. I spent 9 hours playing yesterday, had a blast doing it, but wasn't dealing with others. I'm doing remix and running scenarios and running up characters and having a great time.
I've been on both sides. From Vanilla to the end of MoP, I did tons of group content and was constantly in contact with online friends doing things together. WoD kinda killed that vibe with the garrisons and I missed the latter half of that expansion because I wasn't feeling it. Came back with Legion and started to casual play and solo farm things that I wanted. Farming pets, transmogs, mounts, titles, weird items that may or may not have a use. Things like that. Suddenly, I found that there was a lot I could do just on my own. The only things that were off limits to me were the endgame raids and dungeons (and pvp, I guess, but I never did pvp before either, so I don't count it). Still playing that way all these years later.
It may not be how you're supposed to play the game because social contact is kind of the point, but I get that from other things in my life and when I log into WoW, I just kinda chill and do my own solo content farming. Put on a music playlist and chip away at the next grind for a few hours. I don't think I've even spoken to another player in the game in 5+ years. I typically just ignore what other people are doing and focus on my own thing.
May be a touch extreme taking it that far and I'm not saying you have to go that far, but the game does offer enough to let you do that, if you want to. You can definitely occupy yourself with plenty of ingame activities for a long, long time, especially now that we're like 10 expansions down the line.
Yo Nixxiom. Great Vid as always, but you missed an important annoying one:
"The AFK Guy" - The guy you plan some dungeon runs with, that shows up late while you wait. When online he tells You to wait so he goes quickly to the AH to buy Flasks. When finally you found the full group and go summon he goes on a Bio. Then finally inside the dungeon goes AFK on the ready check and ofc never releases when everyone else is on a corpse run because he is off snatching food and drinks which will occupy him for the rest of the run. He will have his focus fully set on the food next to him making him the 1st one to die 15 secs into the fight and enjoy the show the others put up while eating his popcorn "This is a good run" *OmNomNom!
At least i know one, but i still love him man
I play on private server currently just because I can’t afford a sub
Me too
Yeah, it's crazy how this isn't brought up more often but for people who live in places which doesn't use us dollars, pound sterling or euros, the game is insanely expensive now, thanks to inflation.
I do sympathize with the 'I have a life' type since my work schedule does put me at odds when everyone else on my server's on and doing stuff. It took eventually finding others who also work in my job field to help mitigate the situation. Not everyone gets it that for us, we're in our busy times when most have free time like working weekends or pulling overtime during summer.
But the thing is, if a game caters with most of its content with "casual" instant gratification type of gameplay, both party loses. You get something fast, which will have zero value, and the game loses integirty. You just have to accept that your life won't let you to play the game as much as you would want to. That is it. I'm a casual player and I accepted that I will have those awesome transmogs a few expansions later than right now, when I can solo the raids because they become legacy content. You just have to accept that you are not the sole target audience, and let more timegifted players have their fun and meaingful rewards as once you had, probably when you were younger.
@@arnoldnemeth8578 I completely agree with you on the you make do with what time you have. Soloing legacy content describes a substantial portion of my gametime. I just really understand being in the position where you're kinda stuck because there's other priorities on the table. Expecting the game to cater to my outside of most everyone else's work schedule is insanity to me. If I ever pulled the 'I have a life' card, I'd expect to be blacklisted from the game for being that much of a shleb.
Most people who play WoW in 2024 are grown ups with jobs, families and lives. Things aren't like they were in 2006 when the game had a mostly young audience with all the time in the world to sit and prefect their character. Casuals like us ARE the target audience now and the developers have done a great job moving the focus of the game to adults. There's still a niche for people who have to prove how huge and veiny their virtual manhood is, but it's not the focus, and that's wonderful.
As a new player this game does look dead. I even joined a couple of wow Facebook groups and discords trying to find people to play with of some sort. i did get a couple of responses but not very many(compared to the amount of people in those groups) its really making me think twice about buying a sub and let alone the preorder for the next expansion(I kind of want to return it at this point..) I'm going to keep at it to see if I will find a group or someone eventually but so far my experience has been pretty bad.. (even one of the responses I got, they told me to just read and learn the game for a month then start playing.. like I bought this to play it not to just read..) That's my rant lol. I just want to experience the fun of this MMO.
Some realms are not well populated. Try a busier one perhaps but if you are just playing without sub consider there's restrictions and where you might be in the game world is relatively quiet. Capital city and end game zones are usually buzzing.
The problem is that Blizzard force the newest expansion down your throat. There are no servers for older expansions. And now, they are doing the same thing with Classic.
The problem with "the game is dead" guy in mmos is that people play mmos to play with others but if they think other people stop playing then they stop, thus making a self-fufilling prophecy. But wow ain't dying for a while. Atleast not worse then Shadowlands
I love how Asmongold is all of these people combined.
This is what i thought with Day9 recent 'review' of WoW. Im a new player too but i enjoyed retail. I respect his opinion and i know wheres he's coming from. But i just enjoyed WoW for what it is. Doing quest, leveling, casually playing at my own pace. Just recently i tried LFR in MoP remix and i love it. Playing with others scares me since im really new to WoW and afraid im not contributing anything to the raid/dungeon run. But random run with pug feel not bad at all. I enjoyed my time atm with WoW and can see why this game stand strong after all these yrs. Looking forward for TWW.
my guy woke up and chose violence
If I could add one more type of person that is my true enemy in WoW it’s the “LFG/LFR ruined the game” guy. I had the most fun playing wow after they added LFG/LFR. It made it so much easier to experience all of the content available I didn’t have to spam LF DEADMINES in general chat, I didn’t have to organize a group that wanted to do the content I wanted to do. All I had to do was press I on my keyboard and suddenly I’m playing with a group and enjoying group content. Players that truly feel like LFG/LFR killed the game are just so lame to me and honestly ruined classic for me since I’m forced to spam the game chat to make a group or to GDKP which also is just ridiculous from my point of view.
Best thing about P-Server shills: They play on builds that have an ingame shop that at times charges for items that are basic game rewards ingame.
And the more you read from them the more obvious it becomes: They just don't want to pay to play WoW.
Nixxiom I think you forgot an important one:
the Guy that says the game is bad, not for them.
yet keep their subs on and keeps jumping in once every red moon.
Just to say the game is still bad.
I am one of those who actually liked Shadowlands, yet some commenters keep saying' "I pretend like it never happened." Total cringe in my view.
As someone who plays multiple MMOs and an older sibling - The tribal idiots trying to say other things/versions suck never had an older/younger sibling call them a nerd for liking video games and it shows. If someone likes something let them like it, you do some stupid stuff that others think youre dumb for too and if you think you dont youre lying to yourself. AND anyone who rushes to return to being bored rather than rushing to play the 17 games on backlog is a fool. Dont sit in tradechat bored - go play DD2 or Helldivers or something.
I’m an old guy. Both my sons played wow when it came out. They pretty much played it all the way through. I played some in wotlk. Now they’re grown I started playing sod and in Cata with them. I am enjoying it. I have more free time to play it now. We leveled in phase 3 in less then a day. And raided in the first lockout. We’re still raiding and struggling to fill the raid and everyone is complaining. I don’t mind the extra time in phase 3. I shoulda started in vanilla classic. Being new to the game the longer phases gives me more time to level in Cata.
Personally, I would prefer this game to be single player, like the Warcraft games before it, but that doesn't mean I don't like some aspect of this game. I get addicted to it all the same! And it is probably the only MMO that I will ever get addicted to!
Also I FINALLY got the Tomb Stalker mount for my Troll Death knight.
I was going to say “wow isn’t dead, just spiritually dead” because my experience with BFA was so bad. But then I remembered how great Legion was and damn, I am suddenly jonsing for some wow
Legion really was great, that being said Retail has been getting better in the past two years, probably not Legion good, but FAR from BFA.
Unfortunately, I have to say that:
- WoW is dead (preshot: I told ya)
- I hate all versions of WoW
- I love private servers (because I hate Blizzard, obviously)
- My teamates are garbage and this is their fault if we lost
- Let me speedrun that MMO and complain about how fast it is!
- I got 7 jobs, what's you gonna do about it?
- Competition is the best, casual is the pest
- WoW is dead (again) and is going worst and worst every SECOND
- Let us all be sheeps without brain
- Let us also be wolves among sheeps
Tips: I play Troll and everything up there is the exact contrary of what I'm thinking and saying to the community. Please be smart and kind, cheers!
PS: Love the video and 100% agree on all of it (I'm not a sheep though)
BONUS
Correct version:
- WoW got a long time ahead (even 5 years is huge... still I'm gonna be sad when the time comes)
- I like every version of WoW, no exceptions (but my favourite is still and pretty will always be Legion)
- I played on private servers (shame on me) but cannot again after I went on official (since WotLK) where there is no quest bug at every corner.
- My teamates are often bad, but I'm not that good either (that's why I don't PvP much)
- I love to discover one expansion and then do it again with my alts (and not focus on endgame bias)
- I got one job and enough time to play WoW (wife & kids is an overrated thing - just kidding)
- Competitors amaze me, not the players who tell you how to play their way
- WoW got his good and bad, but every expansion has its splendors
- Let us not be sheep, and play/say as we really like (whether it's disliked or not)
- Let us not be wolves and respect the way others are playing and enjoying the game
Cheers! (bis)
Finally, Someone who speaks my language.
Tank specific, but you missed The Go Guy.
"Go. Go. Go. Go! Go! We'll be fine. Go! Go! Just pull! Go! Go. Go! Go. I'm pulling if you don't pull."
Been aying since 2005 or 06, nowadays i unfortunately dont play like i use to. I finished BFA but haven't finished the last 2 xpacks and makes me sad. But ill never hate on a game that gave me the fondest memories of my gaming life and the day they shut down the servers, ill probably tear up because the memories will comeback even stronger
Nix, i totally agree. the speed runners ruin it for the rest of us who dont run that fast thru content. I went from playing for hours a day because i enjoy it , to playing for maybe an hour a week because its no fun anymore. I started playing a game called Palia, created by several game developers from many large companies , they branched off and created their own game. its alot of fun , tons to do , a garden to tend, a house to build , there is hunting and gathering and cake parties . and so much . the community is warm and welcoming and FRIENDLY .
i haven't watched Nixxiom since the "AAAAUGH~! ISHNU ALLA~!" days. I'm glad he's still immensely based.
I'm getting into WoW RP when i resub on friday! I've only dabbled into it before despite being a writer at heart, but hey, better late than never, and i'm gonna try and just not care about what people tell me about the game I've been playing since Burning Crusade released.
I also kind of used to only do the "Only one type of content" kinda thing, mostly because I never enjoyed PVP, but ever since i discovered that you can solo old dungeons, i've been foaming at the mouth for transmogs.
Genre back than : WoW Community vs other game communitys. Today: WoW community vs WoW community about different versions of WoW which are in the same sub
Honorable mentions that I think people catch a lot of hell for: Garrisons were fun, Shadowlands covenant system wasn't terrible, there is more to life than loot, and my personal favorite which ties to the hopeless idiot "There's no point in raiding or pushing for endgame purple/orange gear when it's just gonna get replaced with garbage greens next expansion, rinse repeat".
The speedy player is victim of the game design. Once a new expansion hits there’s a huge incentive to reach max level to get ready for raid. If you missed that train. You are not going to be invited to pugs. You’d always going to fight from behind in uphill battle. 2- you are paying to play. 15 USD for 4 raids lockouts per character and 4 loots chances per boss. If you missed that, you are wasting your money. 3- the End games content is time gated. You have limited time chances to get progress in per your monthly subscription.
Well on that I get you but there is satisfaction knowing you just outhealed 3 guys in a 40 man with far better gear and you're punching above your weight ;)
Nixxiom. My guy. You’re absolutely right about the complaining with speed running. but there are TONS of people who prefer running through the experience as swift as possible. Some people even adore it. Just look at the m+ numbers.
Shouldt be calling those people idiots. We are trying to grow this game, not make it a cesspool of negativity
5:14 ok so let me stop you right here. "Rpg's are games, that are meant to suck you into the world to give you a good story and adventure." WoW, especially where retail is concerned, has lost a massive CHUNK of the aspects of an RPG. On top of this the stories have been dogwater-luke warm over the last two expansions, as have the adventures (even more so with the adventures as they just end up being a routine with no value). This isn't even fully about no lifing the game, I played DF and SL casual af and ran out of things to do that I felt mattered. But sure, go off.
I only play private servers because they’re free. Got nothing against the company. But after spending over 1000 dollars in monthly subscriptions charges and still not feeling accomplished in some way among other things, I gave up on paying for it.
I remember a guy in trade chat sitting in Shatt back in BC who was willing to bet _anything_ he owned that WoW would never attempt a third expansion because "the game is dead". The "welfare epics" and casuals had killed it dead and Blizz would hang up their MMO aspirations forever.
Did anybody take him up on his bet? Not that I'd expect the guy to actually pony up once he lost, but still....
I bet he's still playing too, because he thinks he can tell folks how BC was everything and the other expansions are "stupid". Yeah, I have known that guy.
Is he liking his eighth serving of humble pie? 😂 Number nine is going to be out of the oven soon. I hope he's still hungry.
Loved this video! Community is filled with tons of doom and gloom, negativity, and trolls that you will meet. However, there are 10x as many people who are nice, courteous, and great to play with across all versions. That is why I continue to play.
I got friends who do not play anymore theybspeed run like idiots. While i and mybwife play casual every day. The rush all and then cry there is no content. And game is dead. And i am like well i play every day after work in the evening. And they do everything during the day. At least i keep playing and enjoying remix right now. And i enjoy retail.
Games been dead/dying for a reeeeaaaalllllly long time apparently
The guy(s) who are the "dungeons are to be fast and wrecked". I have hated pugs because of these guys. You get into a dungeon and they run ahead, killing bosses before the rest of the group gets there. Woe be it if you don't know the layout or it's your first time in there, you get lost, tough, figure it out. Case in point, I haven't done a Pandaria dungeon since it was current content. I got into Stormstout Brewery with a pug group. Two of us were picking up the books for the quest. I was just running to keep up. The three of us took too much time and got locked out of the third and further bosses, couldn't go in, couldn't get there. The tank and a dps ended up finished before we could get started.
Yeah, that guy (and all of his brothers and sisters) should be on that list.
i like mmos and warcraft universe, but i really sometimes dont have time to play wow as much as i want, also i like to play wow solo without guilds, like roleplaying as outcast. adding some singleplayer activities to wow might not be a bad idea.
They're doing more for solo players in the war within from what I've read, between Delves making it so you can actually do some dungeon stuff on your own and Warbands letting you share resources between your own characters. I support this, because even though i love the community aspect of MMOs, not everyone has time for them.
The word 'parse' is a huge red flag in a player.
and meta and gearscore
You forgot the people in heroic and mythic 0 dungeons who treat it like a military bootcamp and if you step out of line (pull something you wernt meant too, rip aggro because the tanks sucks or just generally just breathe wrong) then these guys just explode and vote kick you (in normal/heroic) people who three stack should not be allowed to vote kick anyone. Anyway, I was in a M0 Neltharus and kept ripping aggro from the tank on my alt and the tank thought i was taunting them and raged about how i am expendable and not the tank. They simply could not understand me when i tried to explain how I was getting aggro, i think they were from FF14 or something.
So far I've been doing many dungeons in Cata, while leveling and both normal & heroics for gear. The worst person BY FAR is the hunter who keeps ninjapulling because he wants to save a few seconds here and there but 9/10 times causes the run to take longer due to deaths and/or mob abilities not being interrupted because there are too many of them so they either heal or do massive aoe damage. And of course, anyone who unironically plays a gnome, those weirdos.
For number 7, I feel it is the same as the people who play PvP games and complain that they don't perform because "they have a life, and therefore can't commit as much time in getting good and they are just there to relax." Why in the world would you play a stressful PvP game for relaxation? Go play any other story-focused game and get 100 times more enjoyment out of your day!
To be fair; I’d say the “rush to the end” is less of a problem on its own and more a result of how classic/retail is scheduled.
If you only have a year before the next expansion drops; you’re not going to feel inclined to spend half that time leveling up and getting stuck behind with PuGs or GDKPs
TBF retail is a 2 year cycle currently, not 1.
The queue times for BG's in Dragonflight is so ridiculous. I LOVE BGs, but it seems way worse than when I had last played. I don't mind paying the 15 a month, but the one thing I like to pad my XP with is BGs and can't even get in is so infuriating.
My buddy Matt gets upset that I don't use builds or walkthroughs and just kinda play the game when making my builds. I think it's mostly because I tend to out DPS him more often than not, or my particular build doesn't get nerfed into the dirt every other patch.
100% agree about the "3rd party" guy. And for what it's worth, I've been playing since Vanilla. I can honestly say one of the most enjoyable times I've had with this game is when I rolled a new Hunter when WOD came out and maxed it out completely "in-game" (no guides, add-ons, websites, etc) and no heirlooms. It took me 8 or 9 months but I had a blast. Made me remember how much fun I had when I first started playing.
I resonate with the disdain for people that rush to max level and then complain that the game does have any content. I’ve had friends like that. Time and time again have I just been chill leveling slow to get the most out of the game and they’ve already progress several quests ahead of me. Needless to say, I’m still friends with them irl, but I never level with them anymore.
Okay, about Skyrim... I did try to go through the main storyline at first in Skyrim, because most games i played before it like: Jedi Knight 1 + 2 + Jedi Academy, Diablo 2, Oni, ect.
But after a while, i did realise that the sidequests are what makes Skyrim such a biiiig adventuring game. (By the time i got to the bad dragon, he didn't stand a chance... lol)
I feel that 5th one too much. When Dragonflight first came out i know of people who were competing to find out who got to max level first, and then complained raids and such weren't coming out fast enough.
I admit, I used to be the "There's nothing to do..." kind of player. At least in regards to pushing to get to max level, get my dailies, weeklies and such done and afterwards be bored since I tend to only main 1 character at any given time. However...
After Shadowlands I quit all of that, to some extent. I still main 1 (maybe 2) character(s) for gear mainly what I can get from LFR, Heroic Dungeons and through the weekly stuff. Outside of that though I stopped pushing for gear and tend to play on my low level Twinks for fun nowadays. Currently journeying through older zones on a level 20 Twink with no spec, no mounts and no dungeons. While the journey will take longer, it has made my professions feel more important, and thus the experience has been more enjoyable for me.
Blizzard servers are always better than private servers. But the only feedback blizzard takes is from their accountants. I love WoW. Which is why ill continue to boycott giving them money. 😇
my ability to press 3 buttons and then smacking the game with tank meat is old
BG mainers are literally most wow players lol. They just actively keep working against their own best interests.
And in my experience, it is almost entirely Alliance players that do this.
Plenty of horde going "reeeee HoRdE dUmB Durrr" or shittalk their whole team the whole match instead of playing..
I just reply to whatever they say with "Less QQ, more PewPew" or "less typing, more sniping". I have them as macros and they usually work.
-In my experience, Alliance IS worse at PVP battlegrounds than Horde. I don't know why, but i lost far more as Alliance than Horde.
-As someone who had a life when i played WoW, i would have loved to be able to be able to join the high end raids, but I didn't have the gear and got stuck in LFR hell and it drove me away from WoW more than once. And the few times I had the gear, the specific class that was OP for the season, I didn't have a guild that raided/or they were full/or i had work or college on the raid days. As a very low percentage of people see the higher end raids when they are current, i would argue that the game is being elitist and obnoxious.
And i play MMOs to be social, that is the point of them.
I am the "has a life" guy because I have a family that requires a lot of my free time but I do NOT want the game to be as casual as possible Nixxiom, I swear!
Yes Nixxiom, please! There are new top 10 idiots of WOW, new top 10 coziest places on Azeroth, 10 new scariest places, etc. I am a fan of your top 10 series that you made in the past. Please make a new version of these videos or at least some of them. The game has changed, so many new zones, continents, and hidden places. I would love to see your modern WOW favorite zones too!
The whole Speed Run to highest level problem pretty much exists across all MMOs at this point and even the devs encourage it when they sell an item in the store that instantly boosts you to highest level. And a lot of it probably from peer pressure of people thinking they won’t be able to join friends or guilds in dungeon raids or joining guilds where it’s a must or a rule to be highest level with best on slot gear. And funny enough most people who complain about it also do it because, how else are you gonna get the “you’re not playing efficiently enough” monkey off your back who keeps whispering those words in your ears? People who complain about no content are the same people who laugh at people who aren’t playing tHe MeTa or Efficiently. Which again is usually what gives off the mind set that people have to get through everything as fast as possible. It’s a problem in ANY mmo. I guess the best way to put it is that every problem person on this list usually comes from the same problematic tree, the “You have to play efficiently” tree, other wise you’re bad and can’t join the guild, etc.
So I am that idiot with a "life", but I am self-aware enough to realize that I can't get through group stuff, and focus my energy elsewhere. Ain't no point in bitching about how I can't get endgame content I won't set time aside for.
I play on private servers but have never once shamed anyone who pays for Blizzards stuff. If people honestly think Blizzard products are worth the money then God Bless. I will stick to giving my money to the private servers as I find them more fun and hopefully no one shames me for that either.
I'm the guy that keeps on saying on the in-game chat to Blizzard to contact me so we can bring Warcraft to life as a full theme park attraction and more and beyond
Great video Nixxiom, thank you for your work!
Fun fact, original Top 10 idiots was the first Nixxiom video i have ever seen. Still here :D (Fuck, we are old)
I want a full theme park attraction of Warcraft. This would change everything for everyone.
Meta players are the most annoying and destroying the game because if you don't mim-max stats pre-bis with a specific Race Class combo then you're never getting into any raid on dungeons because your damage is 1999 instead of 2000
HEAVY on the content rushers because they create a vacuum that sucks other normal players into rushing if they want to keep up with end game content. When i played classic in Lockdown the world felt so alive because they were people taking at their own pace, you could find people in every zone
I like how at 1:50 that lady dead ass puts a blunderbuss up to her eye covered by a patch and then closes her unpatched eye to aim the thing.
Everybody rushing through content is a direct result of them putting time crunches on everything. Most people don't have the time to stop and smell the roses because they don't want to be left behind. If you're like me and have little time to play, ERA is actually a great game for character progression that you will never lose so it's very casual friendly. Play at your own pace and ignore the idiots who try to dictate how to play the game that YOU pay for.
If you want to talk about the infuriating part of the game (at least for me) is that every time there's new content everyone wants a fresh start. I don't. I've done that five or six times now. I'm tired of having to start over. Here's to hoping that they backdate ERA with some changes to make things better, doubt it will happen but who knows!
I dont disagree with the wow is dead guy, but a slightly different perspective.
It's not that the playercount is dying, it's that most of the world is empty because blizz incentivise rushing to max which is best done by playing through last expac and then playing solely in the current expac zone.
Guilty of running through the content fast, thank you Zygor. I do play 27 characters and want to get them to end game. I am looking forward to the War Within and the new Questing meta where once my main reaches max level the next Character in line can start questing where the main left off. It means I can finally read everything to better understand the story. I stopped playing at the end of MOP and returned at the end of Shadowlands. It's taken me this entire expansion to relearn how to play WoW. Things sure have changed. Currently I'm putting everyone to bed, cleaning bags and banks and take a couple months off to recharge my own batteries. Looking forward to pre-patch and the War Within.
'This game is ded' what a classic!
in the past when you logged in at any time the game is packed
that is not the case anymore lol
that's where this is coming from
@@zytha2890 It's all because of sharding/layering etc. though. Everyones on..just cant see a lot of them unless you're trying. Which has it's ups and downs, so I get it lol
I think wow has the biggest amount of these people that will just keep saying this people that have not played the game for many years and have no good knowledge about the state of the game but they will ALWAYS comment on facebook/twitter about new wow patch/update to say how it doesn't matter because the game is dead or some other hate comment they must always comment and let everyone know that the game is dead despite not even playing it instead of just stop following the news about wow or just don't comment at all.
It may not be dead but i wished it was at this point. Eternal life support in form of microtransactions.
Got my first proper steps into wow this month. Looking forward to to experiencing my first expansion launch day, but the "Wow is dead" spammers under every teaser, video and help chat really puts a damper on things :/
I just want to bonk demons on the head with the power of The Light, and my Big Hammer
Yeah... im the guy who's stopped trying to do group content anymore because people are so fucking toxic.
In BoA I decided i really needed to learn how to tank properly. So i queued for a group to do random dungeons. I warned my group mates that i was new to tanking and just learning.
Somewhere along the line i took a wrong turn and we missed a boss. I quickly discovered that we couldn't get back, and inexplicably i was kicked.
The last comment i gott from one of the group was that i should delete WoW from my HD, burn my computer, and kill myself.
Thats why i do solo where i can and pretty much skip the rest. But im happy to play what i can do.
I think the two that bother me the most are the rush through the game and then claim there’s nothing to do. The other is the WoW is dead people.
the reason why there is an increase in the 5th kind of idiot is because there has been an increase in Blizzard designing the game around that style of play
every "season" you basically have to regrind gear from scratch? it caters to no one except that type of player
I was there during Shadowland patch, telling my friends that I sense WOW is going to die, how gameplay design are getting stagnant(for the first time I was so bored I started beating 25+ keystone dungeon) and story is real dog sh@t, but the scariest thing is the drama inside Blizzard, I thought this would be the start of a downfall, then Blizzard broke up with China, I was genuinely shocked, but then I see Dragonflight's quality has bounced back and recently there are news about Blizzard returning to China this summer, and thus I have witnessed this game's impressive ability to survive and thrive in today's market.
time stamp 14:06 is why are games are failing. If the entire space was filled with neckbeards we would have good games again.
My favorite is private server Andy's that complain about the monetization of wow, while they play private servers that give out bis gear, gold, titles, and mounts for "donations". Or the ones who actively buy gold from g 2 g and then complain about the wow token.
Saw the title and kind of expected blizzard to be the #1 biggest idiot of wow.
The problem with number 4 is some people simply don't care or think they are better than they actually are. But yes ranting still isn't the solution.
Hey Nixxiom do you 'retire' your characters once they hit 70? I mean if you don't get anymore experience points what is the point? Just wondered how you handled getting to the top level. Thanks.
many people do, especially after gear progression was made pointless by frequent resets via catch up gear.
I just quit the game because im not making another alt to have oh- 5 days of fun untill its stuck in endgame pointless gear grind again.