Season of Discovery: Phase 2 in a Nutshell (The Good and Bad) | World of Warcraft
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- Опубліковано 4 лют 2024
- Phase two of World of Warcraft Season of Discovery is almost here, introducing a raised level cap, Gnomeregan as a new raid, Stranglethorn Vale as the newest PvP zone, new runes, and a whole lot more! And to say people are hyped would be an understatement; people LOVE Season of Discovery, to say the least. However, this isn't to say that Phase 2 might not be ripe with some major issues that Blizzard needs to go about fixing.
Nixxiom is back with all new content! After taking the month of January off to go roleplay as a viking in the woods like a total nerd, he has returned to his cave to play more World of Warcraft and rant about the state of the game. Be sure to say "welcome home!" in the comment section.
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I'm back.
Welcome back!
Welcome back brother!
Welcome back my man, good to take some afk time. Hey, you say you love your guild, I hate mine lol. What server y'all on, any recruiter I can get in touch with?
welcome back boss
good to have you back
I hope the roaming boss in STV targets rogues that sit and wait at entrances to gank and corpse camp people
I think he’s going to destroy people that try to make raid groups.
Perhaps both.. we'll call him the garbage man, out there cleaning Azeroth by removing the toxicity ;) @@Awol187z
Nixxiom, I am glad you're back!
I can't agree with you more on your take regarding professions. It adds so much to your character's identity. Matter of fact, I have rolled a gnome just to do engineering and head into Gnomeregan to reclaim the city. Professions add a whole new level to the fantasy aspect of WoW.
They said they're penalizing raids in the STV pvp, but they also said they expect people to want to form small groups for the event.
Maybe +x% damage taken while in a raid group? Or the rewards are just downscaled for larger groups
@@ivyr336 I hadn't considered the rewards being the penalty, but that's probably the best solution. That's the only penalty I think will actually discourage raids.
I am thrilled for GDKP to be going away if for no other reason than there will be must less gold demand without them, leading to fewer bots.
These guys will just use another resource, I wonder what
Bots will still exist. Just because price will go down doesn’t mean the problem will go away. People will buy gold for mounts, consumes, BOEs, etc.
@@QurikOfficial Who are you arguing with? No one is saying bots will dissappear
Meanwhile Mage class is designed for botters and real world trading
I hope you are right. I really do. I hope Blizzard can actually enforce it, seems tough to do.
My guild in SoD is named Only Shams and we are all Shamans... and one Hunter. But he counts because he's not a Shaman, meaning he's a sham (fraud) so he still fits
You’re rant was so awesome I immediately subbed when I heard it! As a new wow player and long time rpg gamer you totally encapsulated why wow drew me in.
Love SoD - and got my husband hooked on WoW for the first time! We are both really enjoying it.
@Nixxiom glad you got time to recharge your batteries. Glad your back as well :)
Looking forward to phase 2! Excited that im actually off this week and plan to hit 40 by the weekend lol.
WELCOME BACK !!!!!! Love you bro
Good to have you back.
the value of RMT gold plummeted by at least 50% when the GDKP announcement was made, that alone should be enough of a sign about how it affects goldfarming bots and RMT
Probably will be the same ammount of bots, but lesser buyers. Resulting in gold becomming super cheap for real money most likely.
Dry January but for gaming/computer usage.. not a bad idea my friend. welcome back
Love Gnomer!!! I can’t wait to get in there!!
i took the information that you are allowed normal grouping but not raid groups during the pvp event, so 5man groups is fine but who knows
Im enjoying SoD as a retail player. I like that it's classic but with a little bit more going on. Hope to see it get really wild going forward I like the changes
I agree, sod is amazing but the players are making it hard to enjoy it. I joined late and have been gate kept out of bfd due to ilevel when im in almost full pre raid bis.
oh no they're pulling me back in!
What I really want is a build your own spell system :D.... now that would be awesome!
the best thing about Gnomeregan is that it is full of gnomes to kill, the bad thing? it's full of gnomes.
I would like to hear more about the things you've done away from the PC. It looked very cool!
If there was a single GDKP out there that didn't have purchased gold taint the pool, I'll eat my shoe. Listening to Barrens chat cry about the banning was the highlight of my day xD
what you think about palworld
stv page psycho??? ok real question, you too nixiom, what do you do with those pages quests? cause I always put all in my bank, AH the duplicates
and when Im around 38-41 I get the missing ones from AH< turn all of this shit in and move on to another zone, prolly hinterlands
The biggest reason why I am still for GDKP is I know at least half the raid is Gigachads. I am tired of joining a "Guild run only need 1 DPS" and I am doing double the damage of the next highest dps in the raid. I understand GDKPs also prey on people who are bad at the game but I know the raid I join will not wipe or even struggle at any portion.
While GDKPs are a gamble at if you will get loot or not, a traditional MS>OS is a gamble of competency. If lockouts were boss specific (i.e. I could re-enter a different raid after killing the 1st 2 bosses and just not get loot) I wouldn't mind leaving bad groups. "A rising tide lifts all ships" yet some ships aren't seaworthy.
Welcome back
You're like a Tech Viking and it's awesome!
The bot problem ties into the GDKP issue and RMT and all of that are interwoven. GDKP would be fine if it was just players using money they grinded or farmed out but we got people setting bidding minimums of large amounts and taking % cuts for just doin a group etc. More bots is more money flooded into the economy which lowers the cost of some materials but rocket boosts the price of stuff like mandatory consumables and BOE blues(or raid drops), which incentivizes Gold buying, which in turn incentivizes bots and farmers and the circle of life continues.
blizz cannot beat this. they should just put the token in and then sell us gold. thats about the only way, rmt has no competition right now.
I think what made classic and what’s making SOD so successful is not that vanilla was or is better than current retail. I think what blizzard did that most people hate but don’t even realize it’s the reason is they over complicated everything. You hit the nail on the head with the professions aspect in this video. Professions back then were so much easier to understand and grasp, the materials felt difficult but attainable to get, and the items were actually useful upgrades. Nowadays with the stupid crafting work bench for crafting orders, 1-4 star and diamond level crafted items etc, it’s just all way too damn complicated for the average person to grasp. The original “get this ore and wood and craft this sword” is the best system. It was simple, Blizz needs to simplify the game again.
Blizzard is really doing everything right finally! I love that they are doing Sod and then gonna drop Cata and will keep Era servers live. We will finally be able to fluctuate between both worlds. Super excited for all classic versions in the future.
The worst part about Dragonflight (IN MY OPINION) was the changes to professions. I'm SO glad Blizzard hasn't tried anything weird with them in SoD but made them classic but better
Banning GDKP is a huge W Blizzard. Banning all the bots, gold buyers and sellers would address the real problem, but dealing with it at the GDKP level removes a HUGE incentive to buy a ton of gold.
The only reason i ever went into gnomer was just to get my triprunner dungarees.
You can ban bots but you can never get rid of all of them ever.
They have been banning bot, but they could probably put more resources into it.
GDKPs incentives gold buying so this is a real good way to help mitigate in an area where the problem is seemingly endless.
tbh I never had so many thx for reporting messages in my mailbox than in SoD. Like probably atleast triple the amount than over the whole period of classic to wrath. Dont know if its like "real bans" but atleast its something no? ^^
By the wording it looks like blood moon is okay with five mans but not okay with raids
Yes, party with 5 is ok, Raid with 6 or more was not. (was the official wording)
Coming from a arguably very toxic pvp guild, that won't stop us. Bet we will just end up making a bunch of 5man groups with one healer each and then coordinate to decimate everyone else.
@@ivyr336 Yes, this will most likely be abused with organized "raids" in discord etc. Voice comms between the various 5 man groups. Hell, even addons that fake "raid groups" or something, I don't know...
Oh well, it will be a blood bath no matter what. At least in the start it will be chaotic, and I will love it for just that!
MAYHEM!
GDKP does nothing positive that being in a guild doesn’t do, plus it comes with the stain of RMT.
The sooner GDKP goes away, the better.
GDKP TLDR: The extreme high end GDKPs both create demand for buying gold and creates a smoke screen of large quantity gold transactions.
There are mercenaries and GDKP organizers who indirectly benefit from RMT'd gold who are mad, unjustly so.
There are ethical GDKP groups who have very small pots and prices well out of RMT range that are collateral damage.
What do you mean profession quests? it was just aimless walking back and forth and only leatherworking was the true useful item since the others were replaced with tier sets
Is it too late to get started with a new toon?
No. In fact, it will feel better when you get to 25+. Everyone rolling with full bfd gear going into next phase. Are going to find they have no gear upgrades for a long time. As the bfd gear is overtuned as hell. Especially caster gear. Which has spellpower on it equivalent to lvl50+ dungeons (just lower base stats). I intentionally stopped playing and avoided gearing out in bfd. So my gear doesn't trivialize other dungeons and content.
But people will still be running bfd post-25. For the weekly quest and world buff for other content. As well as snagging overtuned gear as they continue to level. So, you'll still get to run that. If that's part of your concern.
Thank you for the reply there. I have a lvl 20 toon I kinda forgot about, seems like if I want, coming back won’t be an issue!
For anyone that is worried that GDKP's will be gone do not worry, merely bid your "donation points" that you will recieve from donating your gold to your "guild" and you will recieve said item. Once every week everyone will be returned a cut of there donations based on total donation size to the guild. Thank you
if you get into a raid group, the huge Loa elite fel reaver type boss will hunt your raid down. (i hope)
I’m just gonna put this here,
Season of Discovery allows for a future which you might be able to do a quest to become a Death Knight when Naxx comes around. 🤷🏼♂️
I agree that professions should get more attention. I liked how professions evolved in TBC.
GDKP and the botting problem (to RMT) is directly connected to each other.
Most of the gkpd'ers buy gold for real money to then invest into gear.
Of course there are few people benefitting of this to make gold.
I'm sure there are many players making their gold via AH flipping and then participating in gdkp runs, for those this change hurts.
But overall - for the game - i think its better to ban gdkp, to make it less appealing for botters to farm gold (on sod).
The problem with botting is it's a cat and mouse issue. Additionally, from a SW perspective Blizzard can probably add some sort of mechanism to the game that severely impacts botters and removes them from the game, but perhaps it comes at a cost where things become more resource intensive on client side, server side or both and can impact gameplay severely. It's not an easy fix IMHO.
i gave up after hitting lvl 25 and guilds were min/maxing already. and everyone reserving dungeon loot. its the players not the devs this time.
100% the community gets to become so rotten from the core with the way everyone only cares about speed running through content to end game and max level, if you were a warlock wanting to to get metamorphosis after everyone else already had, good luck trying to find a group of people to help you. the min maxing mentality has no place in sod and is so toxic & gross to me but it is what it is at this point i guess. just sad
i decided to skip sod and wait for the inevitable classic+ that comes after sod is over
why not just make your own group and not play with those people?
@@xxxbeastxxx321 wtf does people not wanting to spend hours helping some random stranger get their rune have to do with minmaxing exactly?
@@invictus7736that used to be part of the magic of the game, helping randos
i think that getting rid of GDKP is good for the social fabric of the game. GDKP is often seen as an alternative to things like joining a guild, and i think it's a good thing to promote just playing together instead of purchasing cooperation.
Couldn't agree more, love armor sets in mmo's. Not just endgame sets. I wish this stuff came out years ago, would have been more fun for me. Gnomeregan is horrid for sure, have hated that place since '04.
Idk seems like boosts will just take over if they remove GDKP; since you could 5-man BFD, you could just 7-man it and bring 3 buyers (Mail, Cloth and Leather)...
And that's totally fine. GDKP bids up gold, there isn't a static cost for a run so you want to bring as much gold as possible. Organizer's put whales against each other so they would bid up on items. GDKP massively incentivized gold buying.
while crafting adds a great element to the game, if I wanted a full time job, id stop playing a game and go outside. for some its great, others its just not interesting. I hope you get what you want!!!
they should add an good prof quest not just for the crafting jobs. i mean im a collector for my guild so i want to have an epic quest too .D for my flowers to pick :D
I wonder if instead of GDKP where you spend money in a bidding competition whenever loot drops, people will now in advance spend their gold hiring people/guilds to clear raids, or to buy a higher rolling priority within a raid.
Like, I feel like people will just become more creative in how they spend their real-money-transfered gold in order to get loot, and they will challenge whatever gray area surrounds the definition of a gold-for-loot raid.
This isn't law though. You can't abuse some loophole in the rules and laugh as the legal system can't do anything about it. If blizzard think you are breaking the rules then they can punish you.
STV is gonna be wild, its gonna be fucking wild
I'm pissed because this guys month of January then the entirety of the last three years for me
I wish they would have made holy priest dps. 😊
For sure. Can't believe they haven't introduced a holy/disc dps rune
Yes! Professions!
blown away by BFD is hilarious
14:15 this argument is the same idea of hacking. Why can't blue team security specialists just "fix" the hacking problem? Because as much as a blue team member can fix a problem, the red team (hacker) will develop a new method to infiltrate systems. Same situation with bots. They can ban every bot and the methods botters use, but they're going to return at some point with harder to detect systems
I never did a GDKP either. I'm too poor to be spending actual gold in gear I need.
The idea is you find a group/ pug then make gold from gdkp after you have gear
Really respect the sentiment that you don't have enough information to form a strong opinion. Wish it was more common.
15:45 😂
GDKP would be great to have but it would require blizz to deal with bots from day one. The ecconemy is alrady to screwed at this point for it to matter. But while I like the concept of GDKP runs it's horrible without proper enforcement because then you have to either buy gold or wait to be drip fend gear as gold buyers gear out their characters. And yes even non gold buying players make gold in runs to use to buy gear the problem is they can't compete with unlimited gold fueled by a credit card. And as time goes on their gold is devalued as gold floods the game from gold buyers.
Even if you havent done a GDKP its pretty obvious that it is fueled by buying gold, which drives inflation for everyone playing on the server
regarding the GDKP situation. gold buyers will outbid normal players by a large amount so the most reliable way to get gear in GDKP is by buying gold. Since all the gold is distributed among all the other non gold buyers this sort of hyper inflates a servers economy. Bots farming gold create way too much gold for a normal economy and gold buyers sort of white wash that gold into among all the other players and before you know it gold is worth so little that pots are selling for 10 gold a piece. The real issue here are the bots farming gold and the people buying it. Blizzard is reducing 1 of the main reasons to buy gold. (you can still buy BOE items from the auction house so this wont completely remove that demand)
I wish crafting stuff gave you XP, so there would be a great deal of motivation to want to do them while leveling.
Dude the reward is the gear and Items. Plus they are making powerful epics on every profession.
Plus buffing older caster items.
you kill monsters to increase your exp of your character.
You pluck flower to increase the exp of your gather herbs profession.
All you’re asking for is faster leveling.
I seen a lot of people farming this shit but I keep trying it and I never have fun and never stack the blood. Just annoyed to max with it.
00:06 were you practicing meditation?
I do not like that important abilities are random world drops.
Sounds like its just gonna be a bunch of super optimized 5 man groups running around and probably even guildies will run side by side groups in tabards and not kill each other. I hope this is fun but I have a feeling if you are alone or in an undergeared 5 man you arent gonna have as much fun.
Will probably be an addon for tagging players as being on the same team and warning if you target a teammate.
I play on an American Server late at night where I live (server time is 3am)
I used to see soooo many bots at that time fishing or even running SFK, now I barely see any bots. I think the SOD Blizz team are doing a good job getting rid of them. It was slow at first because they needed a few weeks worth of reports to figure out who was who.
Will hpals be useless healers again😢
The problem with wow is not only blizzard but the players. I came back to wow last week to play sod and because i came back late i was gate kept out of raiding bfd because i didnt have bfd gear😂 I couldnt even pug it because peoplr wanted you to have an ilevel over 300. I was in pre raid bis, or almost bis for some item slots and my ilevel is 220. What they dont seem to understand is not only is ilevel not a good way to evaluate how much damage someone will do, because there are a lot of high ilevel gear that is trash, but also the players with the gear might not be that good. I experienced this is in legion raiding. I had to organise my own raids to get curve, while teaching players with curve how to do antorus.
Do people like Gnomeregan as a dungeon? I've literally never met anyone who was stoked to get it, and my experience with it with dungeon finder is people just abandoning group immediately because it's just bad. I like the idea of it, but my god it really shouldn't have been a dungeon.
I'm glad they've learned from the Ashenvale PVP and by not having an arbitrary and completely pointless "progression" percentage that has absolutely no bearing on anything since there's no benefit to getting to 100% first. Making the STV on a timer helps alleviate the annoying layer hopping that people have been doing for min-maxing and making it a free-for-all fixes the faction balancing issue. Hopefully they implement or have implemented some sort of protection to stop people from farming the same few people, since it is an FFA it seems like it'd be wildly easy to coordinate farming, regardless of being able to group or not.
I think the biggest thing about GDKP is that it means people often are using real world money to buy power for their character, which removes the equality of players inside the game. Big Joe forks out $100 to Isellgold for his 5,000 gold and then buys his way into a raid and then buys six pieces of loot. Little Frank can only afford his monthly sub, so he doesn't buy gold. Because of this he goes into a non-GDKP raid and loses the roll for every drop he needed. Big Joe is now significantly ahead of Little Frank simply because he has more real life money. Big Joe is now also helping the gold farming bot market stay healthy. I wouldn't care about GDKPs if the gold being introduced into the games economy were obtained through legitimate means, but except for a few people who are good at playing the AH, it's almost always just gold players bought. Don't get me wrong, I'm not deluded enough to say GDKPs are the only cause of botting, nor do I think that everyone who has lots of gold is just buying it with real money.
who liked BFD before the change?
Idk i don’t want crafted gear to be better than the raid. Fine with them being decent as prebis but I’ve always thought crafted gear in my bis felt bad.
if they didnt make trade armor bis for raid phases, it would disincentive any reason to do any gear crafting tradeskill on a main.
@@BIacklce what? That’s where all my money comes from.. tf you mean…
@@MultiAlig very rarely is a gear trade better than alchemy from a gph perspective. Especially as a phase goes on.
They said each class is getting 6-7 runes
GDKP has always made bots and gold selling a big problem because GDKP raids always ends up with gear going for 1000s of gold they are a blight on all versions of wow its the equivalent of buying a wow token and paying a guild for a mythic raid boost
As i've said, i love classic because it separates the sweat ridden players from retail so...
Gnomer has always been a raid...
you know because someone steps on the circle and everyone dies. :/
Nice.
You could be like the American version of the German "Drachenlord" :=) only from the looks though
Why would anyone be disappointed by your lack of an opinion on GDKP?
Literally nobody was waiting to hear what you had to say on the topic. 😂🤪
Only two phases so far but noticing a pattern... Phase 1 expanded quite a bit on the old god and void(Xalatath) presence in SoD. Phase 2 with the blood moon is hakkar themed, as in the blood loa. There's also a secret new boss in Gnomer... They seem to not just rehash content but commit to world building of classic. Like setting up future threats.
Gave a like after you said i dont like gnomeregane
STV just gonna be a faction killing themselves win/kill trade .. if u can kill a "ally" and get reward, its a major flop
I would say ban the IP for botting, but then they'll just use VPNs if they're not doing it already.
Nixxiom, do you listen to a lot of folk metal?
Gnomerogon is the worst dungeon i hate running it because it took like 3 hours 😅 hopefully the raid version is as quick as BFD i dont have time to sit in raid 4 hours its what made me quit wrath when Ulduar came out
Hello
That ending. kek
Gdkp’s inflate the prices of everything on the ah
i never got to the first raid everyone gate keeped and ruined the point of sod that its not classic
this aged like milk
If banning gdkp will decrease gold buying you should ban boosting too !
I have always hated Gnomer also
Literal god.
You are so funny. Why would they stop gold farmers if they get more money from allowing it ?
sucks that people are legitimately afraid of doing group content. really as a long time player i understand why, oh i do. i just figure its a shame that the fact toxic people exist is enough to turn someone off group content completely.
i rarely run into genuine toxicity in my groups and when it does its usually related to the occasional loot dispute (muh class uses leather u can use mail).
but yeah.. its unfortunately just something ya gotta deal with because its never gonna change.
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Its very interesting to hear your point of view on professions and how you enjoy them so much. For me as an avid pvper, i have always dreaded professions in fact they are my least favorite part of the game. I would love to go and pvp with my friends and have fun but instead i have to go do some boring quest for gold in order to level my professions in order to get my gear and do well in pvp. With so many other gold sinks in classic it feels like a nuisance to me and will be last priority even after enchants.
gdkp has nothing to do with gambling