Tennis Elbow Healing: What's Taking So Long?
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- Опубліковано 10 жов 2013
- How long does Tennis Elbow take to heal? - tenniselbowclassroom.com/tenni...
Some injuries seem to only take weeks to heal, while others take months or even years -- Why is that?
Here are the links to the mainstream medical sites quoted in the video:
WebMD says 'Lateral Epicondylitis' takes "6-12 months to heal"
www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/te...
Cigna, a big HMO, also says the injury takes "6-12 months, but in some cases, 2 years or longer!"
www.cigna.com/healthwellness/h...
The National Health Services / U.K. claims that:
"Tennis Elbow is a 'self-limiting condition' that often gets better all by itself without treatment, but can persist for over a year"
www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Tennis-e...
And there's also a 'Patient Information Sheet' linked to from The British Medical Journal Blog, saying:
"it takes 1-3 Months -- but recurrences are common" [no link]
Clearly, there are a wide range of answers to this simple (perhaps not so simple) question of how long it takes to recover from Tennis Elbow.
Even these authoritative medical sites have no definitive, common answer, claiming 1-3 months on the low end, to 2 PLUS years on the high end.
Well, one obvious reason for this disparity is because the injury varies a great deal from case to case.
Another is that the choice of treatment, (if any) also varies a lot from person to person.
Not to mention that healing capacity slows with age.
BUT none of that really gets to the heart of the matter...
Here's my full article with a second, longer video and podcast with more detail on this challenging question: goo.gl/o6C94P
See also my video on 'Rest' - "Forget Resting - Rest Is RUST In Treating Tennis Elbow!"
• Tennis Elbow Treatment...
And here's my playlist on Tennis Elbow Treatment, in general:
• Tennis Elbow Treatment
Doing water/steam/heat baths helped me alot!! And healed me after 7 weeks of this constant problem whilst doing combat sports. You get the injured area (golfers or tennis elbow) really red and hot/warm by high heat (done by doing steam baths or hot water baths) which brings in the blood to the area of problem which in its turn heals the ligament. Thats the problem with tennis elbow is that there is little blood circulation in the injured ligament. So all I did is I boiled water and put it in a small tub and put my elbow in it and covered the hand on top with towels. It got hot inside, the elbow was reddish and felt way better after a couple of days already! I did it 2+ times a day. Thats why even muscle tears heal quicker because there is blood travelling quicker through muscle, unlike ligaments. Just trying to help out and give an idea of what helped me, maybe it will help somebody else aswell :)
I completely agree with you about bringing blood to the tendons with heat (lots of heat!) - and that the problem is partly low circulation. Thank you for sharing that.
(I've been afraid to advocate heat too emphatically - although I've been vocally anti-ice / anti-cold and pro inflammation, because inflammation is part of the healing process and not the problem with chronic tendon injuries.)
What you're describing is exactly what I would do if I ever had a chronic tendon problem again, and I hope others will at least reconsider this crazy, misdirected R.I.C.E. / ICE madness! (If not to go all the way and try serious heat, like you're talking about.)
@@TennisElbowClassroom so why everyone is saying put ice cause ice kills inflammation a bit weird
Does the tennis elbow go away or does it come back after not applying heat for a few days?
@@XxxXxx-fo1zi Because they echo what they've read or have been told. It sounds intuitively right - but it isn't - at least not when it comes to healing. See my ice vs. heat video for more: ua-cam.com/video/Ta0iAPy4YH8/v-deo.html
@@TennisElbowClassroom I am going to try the heat. I'm 50 and throw a lot of boomerangs. Hurts me more to actually build them. Ice really makes it hurt and ache just after 1 minute. Lots of heat does make sense. I will be back to let you know how it works for me. Thank you both.
You are very comforting to listen to. Someone understands my pain! Much appreciated advice.
I've watched many of your videos and learned a lot. I'm applying your advice by not using anti-inflammatories, not using ice, not immobilizing my elbow, but rather I am heating the area and massaging the elbow, and I am actually improving. I was wondering why I wasn't healing!! It's because doctors have that s.i.c.k. approach! Thanks Allan!
Just the advice I needed. Thank you!
Hey Allen it's Lane. Elbows are still holding strong and I'm back to all previous activities,.. Lifting Weights, Archery etc. Thanks again for all your help AND encouragement! Hope your taking some time off to play , hike , and enjoy a nice craft ale from time to time!
+Timber Line Hey, Lane, Glad to hear you're back to doing the things you love! And glad I could be of help. (Not really getting the weather I need for hiking at the moment here but looking forward to the next dry spell.)
Great informative 👏 My rheumatologist didn’t tell me any of this! She only mentioned tendinitis and the wearing forearm band, which I cannot wear, and knew nothing about, I have issues with the nerves and tendons in my left & right arm and getting much worse-sure appreciate your post! she did order X-ray, I did January 27, 2020, no fracture. Unable to exercise my arms due to nerve damage😐
Sorry to hear about your nerve damage, Cherylann. (Thanks so much for your compliment. So many people don't seem to understand the point of this video - But it seems you did!)
Thanks for the vid. I'll check out your site. Have many things going on in my right arm. Tennis Elbow, Golfers Elbow, Ulnar nerve damage & Carpal Tunnel syndrome. Doc told me to wear the elbow strap by day, but I can feel the nerve sensations rush through my wrist. So at night, I sleep with the carpal tunnel brace & a full elbow brace instead. Going to check out physical therapy for these issues as well.
Sounds like you have a lot going on! Hope you find my site helpful. I don't know if my program would be right for you or not - but I think there's a good chance it would be (both the Tennis and Golfer's Elbow programs) Feel free to give it a try and let me know how it's going after a week or two. I'm easy to reach - right in the members forum or by email.
My tennis elbow sucks! But at least having it led me to encountering this great human being! I feel more in control of this problem thanks to these videos. Thanks so much.
How is it now?? Just curious of the progress after 3 months
Hi I have tennis elbow for over ten years. There was a time in my life back when i was 23-25 that i could not afford a physio three days a week. I had to quite my job etc etc. I left it un treated for over 8 years before seeing a physio.....I started a treatment doing muscle massage, muscle weights and stretches...it became to pained more so than usual and gave up again trying. I re visited a physio again about 2 yrs ago and had the same thing happen...gave up. But i'm at the point where it's enough, no more giving up, dont be lazy, i lost my job because it was becoming more of a problem and now im jobless because of it. So i stated seeing a different doc, physio and its been over two months, ive stayed on the treatment program and i cant express it enough, im slowly getting better :D i started on light weights and now im on 3kg's and getting stronger :D I still have moments where it hurts for no reason or it aches.....or for eg. the physio said come back in two weeks, thought i was progressing, the following week after, my arm had gotten sore again, and the physio has now got me going back weekly.. i think my arm feels better with weekly massage and the nightly massage my partner does for me too. Is there anything else i could be doing? I do weights up and down, twisting from side to side and the up down reverse palm up, and the basic stretches most people say to do for tennis elbow...thanks for reading.
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Is there a way to see if it's healing?
I still hit the gym but the things that hurt it the most are the twisting motions like curls. Lifting a full coffee mug to my face also hurts. This injury is ridiculous
Same man … this things is really sucky … I give myself 6months more .. it’s been a year almost .. i will go for surgery
Plantar Fasciitis is another nasty one if not worse. I could hardly walk for 8 months. It mentally screws you up also because you can’t do anything or go anywhere.
What about doing side laterals?
What finally healed my elbow was being off work for hernia surgery lol. I took so long to heal and rest my elbow was able to heal because I wasnt using it but I think I remember it taking around 2 years to heal. It just wasn't healing when I was working.
Wow thanks. I have had mine for the last three months. Not as bad as it use to be but pain still there trying not to use wrists to much in doing things
Helpful & informative. would be nice if more actual info given though..
Hi !
I developed pain in elbow of both arms with air conditioner cool air consistent nights. After that I did some arms/ upper body excercise and that increased the pain . But I never had issue while working at job ( involved active arms activity). With x-rays and ultrasound showed mild strain in fascia and tendons of the forearm. Doctor gave me maxilicalm 7.5 mg and I went to the physiotherapist where she have hard compressions in my joint area with muscle scrapper and also moved joint . After that it causing severe pain ,swelling in the elbow and I can’t do any activity. Just wondering can harsh physiotherapy make more tearing. Just had MRI today but still waiting for the results. Kindly provide your input what you think about my situation and please also provide suggestions .
I am doing heating and slight stretches mentioned by physiotherapist.
hey Allen, what do you think about FASTT patch?
Nice presentation, thanks
Thank you for this video -
Please, I need help _ How to find the right exercise to restrengthen my right ankle after a stroke? I was giving an electric power chair told I would never walk.... well, I Am walking yet, I must make my ankle stronger - The therapist I had have all failed in their teaching methods -
All the best - Thanks for the assist -
ThickVein -
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Thank you, very inspirational. I thought tennis elbow heals slow. Now i know it can even not heal at all. Great
😁 right! Of all the videos I’ve found on how to properly heal tennis elbow, I’m so glad I found the guy that says it will NEVER heal no matter what I do. Very inspirational indeed. VERY!
My right elbow has tennis elbow for 1 year. Mri showed a 3 mm tear in tendon. Had 3 months of pt. 9 rounds of acupuncture, one cortisone shot at 5 months and month of pt after shot and took 6 months of work. It felt great for 5 months, and now it's back again. It was not as bad in the beginning, but now my left elbow mri shows I have interstitial tendon streaching.
My left elbow is not as bad as my right side. I have flexbars at home and they don't seem to help. My specialist has asked for PRP injection but my workers comp has not approved them yet for the last 2 months.
Lately I have getting cramps on my right elbow right below the elbow that hurt so much that I have to stretch my arm out and twist for a few seconds to get the cramp to go away.
I just want to pain to go and have my strength back. I hate having to ask for help when I have to lift stuff at work. Even when using pliers hurts.
Can you please recommend me what to do : I have wrist tendonitis and tennis elbow... I have pain for about 2 years, but this last year it has increased up to my shoulder. I am a tennis player and I am living the nightmare right now, because I can't do nothing, not even work at a computer.. and I fear that I won't be able to play tennis again... I've tried almost everything, from physiotherapy to osteopahty, but no change at all... only got worse. Which exercices would you recommend me to do?? Where should I start?? Thank you so much
Hi, I've had tennis elbow now for about 15 months, always worsened by such gardening activities as strimming, hedge trimming, chain saw and shredding. Letting the garden get out of hand isn't a fair option though. Haven't had any benefit from exercise programmes, unfortunately. Any further suggestions?
+Stewart Anderson That's a lot of grip-intensive, repetitive wrist and forearm activity. (Whether that's how you developed Tennis Elbow in the first place or it serves to aggravate and perpetuate it now, it certainly makes sense that those gardening activities would be an exacerbating factor.)
It's always been my perspective that rehab exercise alone is not enough to "break the cycle" of Tennis Elbow (or Golfer's Elbow) in moderate to severe cases (although I'm sure there are exceptions!)
I am singing my own song here, but I believe that very specific muscle and tendon release techniques are the most important factor in breaking that cycle.
Have you looked into and considered my program? - tenniselbowclassroom.com/
I don't want to disparage all the fine, helpful, free videos here on UA-cam - I'm sure that's all some people need to recover (in the early stages?) but sometimes people with more difficult, chronic cases need a more comprehensive program.
Tx 4 a good sharing.
This is the "I'm talking to my dog" photo angle.
Next time, try a video angle that is at "people height" so you're talking "to" someone instead of "down to"
What a petty comment
Hahahahhaa.....the best comm.
Also told us nothing of real note in this 'vid'.
thank you. The first time I had tendonitis, it took eight years for it to fully heal, and that was with my doing the icing, stretches, exercises, etc that my chiropracter had given me, who also had given me treatments.
This time, I've been suffering with it now for about 7 months, trying to be diligent with treatment, but I do still do exercises and no small amount of physical activity, but I just can't see making my husband do everything that I normally do.
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I have an injury by participating in long jump. Its not a usual wear and tear problem. My leg twisted and i fall in my elbow. Now i have pain on the inside part of elbow. Is acute golfers elbow treatable
Thanks for the video Allen. I have dealt with this shitty injury on both elbow for almost six months. It took 6 long months before I could get rid of it. I've been resting it during all this time but consistently performed eccentric exercises (3 times per day) and manual therapy to recruit blood flow and break up scar tissue (once per week). I'm relieved that I could get rid of it but this was quite a journey!
Thanks for sharing your experience. I've heard that using a compress with castor oil over night can help.
Glad to hear you got through it and you're welcome for the video! (If you ever have to deal with it again - or something similar - I would do a lot more manual therapy than once per week if I were you! (Or anyone reading this.)
How long must the elbow be in the hot water? Thanks a lot
@@muminaslantas20510-15 mins
Hi Allen
Its been nearly three months since i stopped playing tennis. I gave long breaks(as i found your videos recently) several times during this period. I played whenever i felt my elbow was alright but ended up damaging it again . Each time it got damaged , it took longer time to recover. I feel alright now but I am scared that it might come again. I want to know whether there are any ways to check that the tennis elbow has completely healed.
Thanks
Sorry to hear it's been such a struggle for you. I think the only way to know that it's completely (or mostly) healed is that you have full pain-free function and strength.
(Some people are able to continue playing tennis right through their healing and rehab - as long as they have the right program - but it sounds like you may not be one of them.)
Ideally, you want to gradually and progressively challenge your muscles and tendons with your strength-training / rehab exercises, (along with Soft Tissue therapy, in my opinion) and avoid sudden and unpredictable forces and stress - like what you have with tennis.
That way you can make small changes in your therapy/rehab routine and see how it responds, and chart your progress. (It's much harder to adjust your tennis intensity and tennis is not a rehab exercise.)
Tennis Elbow Classroom Actually, i dont have any upper body strengthening routine as i got fractured on my other hand. Your videos tell what kinds of exercises can be followed but not which one to follow. Can you suggest me what exercises can be followed?
Thanks again
I broke my collar bone about a year and a half ago. I started doing push-ups, after a short time I got tennis elbow and cannot get rid of it. I found out I was doing push-ups wrong, but I think my collarbone is part of the issue? Could my collarbone be part of the issue? Will "tennis elbow class" help someone like me?
I read that some anabolic steroids like Decadurabolin, Primobolan, Parabolan, Equipoise, and some others are good for tendon repair and bone density and etc. It seems they speed up keratin and collagen synthesis or whatever.
Sorry but why did mine take 3 weeks to fully heal? Was that because my tendon was not damaged? Is it the main difference here between those recovering in a few days/weeks VS those recovering in months/years?
No one fully recovers from a moderate Tennis Elbow injury in 3 weeks, so, yes, it would be a very reasonable assumption that your tendons were not damaged, and that you were in the painful "pre-injury stage" On the flip side, I would not necessarily assume that all is 100% just because the symptoms have subsided in 3 weeks. Be careful, take good care of it and don't get overconfident.
Thanks for the video. I also had a tennis elbow. I was pain free after approximately 2 months. Fish oil, vitamin C, full rest (no more upper body exercises), ice, arm brace, anti-inflammatory, cortisone shot is what it took me to get over it. Not sure what exactly fixed it but I'm thankful it is gone as this injury was such a nightmare. Lesson learned, I take care of my elbows and spend proper time to warm-up and stretch. Best of luck.
u do upper body workout now ? plz share
Mine has been going for almost 3 years now. I used fish oil, vitamin c, shockwave therapy, stretching excersize. Still no improvement
Anyone have any experience with a connection between dupoitrens contracture and tennis elbow? Ive had tennis elbow for close to 2.5 years and my contracture started first, probably 5 years. I have had two cortisone shots in the last 18 months after physical thearpy the tennis elbow is persistent. Now trying active release, 6 weeks, with a chiropractor but doesnt seem to be responding. Is the dupointrens the cause of the tennis elbow in my case and treatment a waste of time?
So, this is for those of you that are experiencing long term pain that is seemingly chronic. Its been 6 months for me. I had tried both rest and physio exercises, and a combination of both. I had days of relief, but in general, the issues were ongoing. Then, I discovered the Athlean X kettle bell routine for tennis elbow. This was the beginning of realization. The kettle routine was giving me relief but not permanent. I did start to notice that when this routine popped my elbow joints, I would get almost instant relief, but with residual tenderness at the tendon. To be expected I suppose for a tendon under constant strain. So, I remembered I had seen one or two vids that suggested some Tennis elbow is actually a fruit of joint dysfunction and misalignment. I went back and sought out more vids on this issue, and came up with a couple of exercises/movements that are designed to pop the joint back into alignment. Guess what, I went from having a day of pain and restricted motion to near instant relief. So, for me at least it seems my joint is out of whack. This makes sense for me. I was aggressively chopping wood when I triggered my Tennis elbow. So, for me at least, it seems I need to focus on alignment and also strengthening the arm muscles. This goes for the shoulder too. I'm taking a holistic approach to building my arm back up. Good luck.
what were the videos you watched that gave you instant relief?
Athelan X has a kettle bell routine for tennis elbow. Another video was a short, using bands to establish realignment, and the 3rd was a chiropractic vid showing how to reset the joint using a sharp maneuver. I bet if you search for elbow joint realignment, you will find equally useful stuff@@manhaj-as-salafiyyah898
Had extensor tendon repair of elbow 3 week ago. I am in therapy now. My elbow has considerable amount of pain still when stretching and rom. movements. How much pain should experience 3 weeks post op? thanks
I'm sorry. I wish I could tell you. But that's not my forte. Your Orthopedist (or their office staff) should be able to advise you on that - Or, I would think your PT should have some idea of what's within the normal, expected range, since they work with post-surgical people all the time.
Okay thanks. Tennis elbow hurts for a varying amount of time. That helps a lot.
ive just been told i have this i work in child care and the constant lifting kids up and down for nappy changes has stuffed my left arm up it hurts so bad
well ONE ortho told me I have tennis elbow another says it's a PLICA which I am more inclined to believe as it locks, snaps, pain getting worse and very limited movement. had the same issue on my left knee and right wrist.
+grettagrids I also got whatever it is from two bad falls directly on the elbow.
5 months for me. It's been getting better slowly. I see improvements on a bi weekly basis.
What treatment you have taken. Detailed details please
I've been having trouble with tennis elbow for over twelve months now, no sign of recovery infact it's just getting worse. I always have my arm bent because it's too painful to extend.
Sorry to hear that, Dan. Having Tennis Elbow for a year or longer is not uncommon, unfortunately. (Have you checked out my site and learned anything helpful? My channel here is a good start, but there's a lot more info on the site.) All the best to you!
Me too :(
could u offer opinion on dry needling related to te. ..txs
+George Grant I think it's a rather extreme way to approach the problem, but I think the theory is sound. Is it safe to assume you want to avoid the expense of Platelet-Rich Plasma or Autologous Blood injections?
(There is speculation in the medical research realm that the essential aspect of PRP and ABI treatments is the needling and not what's injected.) And since we're on that topic, here's my latest post on PRP, for you or anyone else who might be interested:
tenniselbowclassroom.com/tennis-elbow-treatments/platelet-rich-plasma-for-treating-tennis-elbow-does-it-work/
Got it both innner and outer on my elbow. It's not getting better. PT just makes it worse and a cortisone shot only lasted for about two days.
I think mine is finally feeling better with massage and and the elbow brace after 8 months!
Hard exercise when you get older is a catch 22. It increases your power, and the more your power increases the greater the strain on your connective tissues.
it took me 2 years plus for the pain to go away..it began on 2018 up to 2019.. up until now it still got a stinging pain..ang im a cake decorator..it tared my tendon by making fondant and injured my self..
could you advise on golfer's elbow?
All the same principles I refer to in regard to Tennis Elbow also apply to Golfer's Elbow. (The good news about Golfer's Elbow is that it tends to get better faster than Tennis Elbow.)
With being a plasterer I struggle with tennis elbow in my spreading arm due to movements and forces involved. I've suffered for about 3 months with varying degree of pain and discomfort. Due to other medication that I'm on it's hard to take suitable pain killers or ant inflamatories.
I'd love to find an actual cure and prevention methods.
That's tough, repetitive work, Andrew. I bet a lot of Plasterers get Golfer's and Tennis Elbow! (You wouldn't want to be on those NSAID / anti-inflammatory meds long term, even if you could tolerate them. They can damage your gut and they don't treat the problem - which is usually degeneration and not inflammation, anyway.
I don't know if you're only looking for free advice or not but if you're open to considering purchasing a comprehensive Tennis Elbow self-help program, I have one available at my site: tenniselbowclassroom.com/
I try to avoid the "hard sell" and don't push it here, but since you mentioned wanting an actual "cure" and prevention... (I prefer "treatment" though!)
+Tennis Elbow Classroom Thanks. I tend to wear either a length of tubular bandage to support my forearm and elbow or an epicondylitis clasp, which can be a little uncomfortable after a while.
That may only help for a time. Nothing against using something like that for short periods of intense motion, like in tennis or golf, but working for hours doing lower-intensity repetitive tasks wearing one may eventually backfire. You're changing the biomechanics of your arm and you will end up adapting and compensating - which causes secondary problems.
+Tennis Elbow Classroom Yeah thanks, I know that's why I said I'd like to find a cure and prevention techniques etc as I don't want to have many reoccurring problems with it
Did you see my program? tenniselbowclassroom.com/
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sir please tell me what to do I have pain in my elbow region I am a professional cricketer what should I do doctor are saying don't do that activity but I can't do what to do please tell me sir
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lateral epicondylitis has hindered my life for coming up on three years....and I have tried every Kind of treatment and elbow brace imaginable...chiro, massage, graston technique, blood patch, injections and even pain pills! I use to work out quite often and I do swing a hammer for a living. I'm thinking surgery might be the only answer....
Consistent therapeutic exercises are the best treatment you can find... Have you tried the Theraband Flexbar? They sell on Amazon for under $20. Lots of folks like that. The thing that worked best for me though was the forearm/wrist exerciser with a dangling weight, like the Yes4All Wrist and Forearm Blaster on Amazon.
Best of luck to you.
+vara fouroneone Good looking out!!
filthytaco Lemme know how it goes. For me consistency was key. So long as you're lifting weights or in competitive sports, you'll be wanting to do these exercises.
Hey vara, I am doing the wrist dumbell thing myself as my PT told me to, and been feeling better for a few weeks but last week I was typing too much at work I think and it came back a bit again (not pain, just a numb strained feeling from the wrist to the elbow) which really hit my mood as I just feel so down over it showing up again, I used to also work out a lot and havent had a decent work out for 3 months now, and I'm unsure if I should do the wrist exercies or if they will make it worse. Any suggestions?
***** Sorry to hear that, Michael. I think for some of us elbow tendinitis will kind of be a remitting/relapsing sort of thing. Just keep up with the exercises and the stretches - I find combining the Theraband WITH the dangling weight exercise works best - and I think you'll be better. Perhaps finding a keyboard with better ergonomics might also be in the cards for you.
inhave both tennis and golfers elbo for 2 years 6 cortesone shots later im in pain everysingle day of my life and cant take much more, got mri yestrdy for surgery in june or july...
Sorry for the late reply. 6 Cortisone Shots is practically unheard of. You in the UK or Australia, by the way? What did your MRI report say?
my elbow dosent hurt but it pops it also pops when Im doing a massage on my forearm
DO TELL , is it the tendon or the tendon sheath not happy with adhestions (holes & scars in the sheath) causing pain where the tendon tears at the bone Why sneak up on something like this when you know you could really help in the same video?
hi i work as a produce stocker. constantly lifting 20lb to 60lb crates and potato bags all day. being a stocker, a lot of single arm back and forth side to side motion. im dominant right hand but i stock left handed cuz it feels comfortable. i wear a tennis elbow "ace" support strap which helps but doesn't completely take away the pain.
i also lift weights strength and olympic lifting. im sad if i have to cut back deeply for 6 months for im afraid of losing my progress. also if i switch to only my right arm for stocking will that help? yes for rest left arm BUT whats to say i get healed but gain tennis elbow in my right arm? then im going back and forth forever.
im very late to say in the injury. ever since i pulled my forearm its not been good, even that took a year to heal on its own. when i wake up in the morning my elbow is on fire and it takes awhile to get loosened up for the day. What do i do?
+Brice Simoens been there. sorry, but you will need rest and physical therapy and to cut your lifting freq by 50% and the effort, also do not do any exercise with arm straight or palm reverse. plan on a year of this
will do thanks
Had a operation two weeks ago can you please tell me what exercise to do....
Hi Heidi, I hope your surgery does the trick! Aren't your going to PT? Aren't they giving you exercises? (or planning to give you exercises?) That would be the standard protocol following surgery. (And it's not really my place to advise you, I'm afraid.)
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This is really a question your Physical Therapist should answer and guide you on based on instructions from your Surgeon. The question of when to start rehab exercises after surgery and which ones to do are very important considerations. It may depend on which type of surgery you had and how you're healing based on follow ups, and so on. Aren't you going to go to PT?
Open up your shoulders using exercise bands, the problem often lies there and not with the elbow.
Spot on mate. Weak wrists will do it too but the shoulder is the main problem usually. This bloke is just trying to sell stuff.
Am a baseball player. It just hurt when I touched it. Never to lift or throwing but, My hand is little weak but getting better. Is it really worth it to go to a doctor? Or should I? Am 13
I'm sorry. I can't give you any advice on that. Please ask your parents.
+Tennis Elbow Classroom had this for four year's... tried everything injections... ice.. exercise.. I'm so fed up with this. I can't even lift my hand bag x
first time I got it was in both elbows in 2011.. it took 5 YEARS to go completely. And bugger me, now May 2019 its come back with a vengeance in the left elbow, its now not got any better since it flared up on May 4th, thats 7 weeks of resting it, rubbing it, stretching it, hot and cold treatment, rubbing in ibuprofen gel to the point it upsets my stomach ulcer !! fed up with it now.
What would your advice be to someone who has had lower hamstring tendinosis for 8 months be?
+Ian Hamilton - (Thanks for subscribing!) I would avoid the ice, anti-inflammatories, immobilization, "absolute rest" and Cortisone shots, if I were you - (just like Tennis Elbow) and I would seek help from a therapist who practices Manual Therapy (hands on tissue release work) to mobilize those hamstring muscles and tendons. (This would be a very challenging area to try to work on yourself - but not impossible.)
He asked for advice, and you provided it? Your disclaimer says: 'Allen Willette, its owner/author, does not provide medical/healthcare treatment or advice.' You're playing with fire lol
Well, thank you for your concern and for reiterating my disclaimer! (Notice I say, "what I would do if I were you" - Not, "you must do this and this!")
Tennis Elbow Classroom Hope for your sake a judge interprets it that way lol.
I have a partial tendon tear. Will that heal on its own. I have 8 months, 2 prp shots, 1 steroid. 4 weeks of therapy and work conditioning. Better but still have pain and soreness.
I can't tell you whether your tendon will heal on its own or not (Well, if you did nothing, I would bet the chances of it healing would be poor - But it sounds like you're not just taking the "Resting, Hoping and Waiting" approach and you're actively doing all you can to encourage your healing process, so that's great.) I would encourage you to think in terms of months, though - and not weeks. All the best to you!
@@TennisElbowClassroom I have 8 months. Some people say a torn tendon will heal, but may take 1 to 2 years. Some say a torn tendon will not heal on its own, will need surgery. I have to do a lot of heavy lifting and hand usage at my job, which may never make it better. Dr. released me back to full duty, so we'll see how it goes.
Going on 10 months, just started my second round of OT.
im 14 and i got tennis elbow from working out it hurts soo bad 😂 idk what to do
I been in pt and cortisone shot so far not much helps
Im not gonna lie, I got tennis elbow from tapping too fast on my psp console, theres a special technique where you tighten your arm very strongly and you can tap with your fingers very fast.
Always felt huge strain in my elbow when I did that, then when I stopped tapping I noticed I got tennis elbow...
Its a worse tennis elbow than when I hit a tennis serve with everything I had.
Constant, repetitive motions like that for hours at a time are a big cause of Tennis Elbow. (Are you going to take the heat approach you referred to in another comment? - I've always thought that's the way to go - unless there's significant, visible swelling in the area.)
Did it ever get better?
Think 10 times before you do a cortison shot. If you do have tennis elbow and you know the reason for it, most likely getting the shot will make it worst long term
I’m going on 8 months. How the hell do I get over this?
Had mine for almost 2 years now. Been getting shots but they only last like 6 months. Have a Dr appt set in Hope's to get rid of it. Next step is therapy and probably more shots...then surgery when we've exhausted the options.
I would seriously reconsider getting more shots if I was in a similar situation. Here's my video on Cortisone and why they're so harmful (also, check out the comments) - ua-cam.com/video/xCz36ehg5Hg/v-deo.html
My Doctor said that shots can do more harm than good. He no longer gives them.
omg u listed all the things I can't do. teeth brushed painful and open jar. lift milk. been three weeks so far. it's my left elbow bad of course. left handed. sucks. I feel helpless.
GET THE FLEXBAR $15
Hi guide me i can't flex & extend my elbow after fall
Go to his website, he has a great program that's very affordable and will save you a lot by not having to go every week to a therapist.
I've had tennis elbow for nearly 4 years now.
I've had it since July 2021. Initially it was in both arms but the right side has cleared up. I massaged it with a device called RolFlex I found on Amazon. I also went to a clinic and had a micro-nutrient blood test done and found out I had no Vitamin D in my body. I think that had something to do with it not healing. Now the left side is getting much better but it's still there. I have been applying heat to it at night and rolling it with the RolFlex. I could actually feel lumps in the tendons, probably scar tissue and man it hurt when I rolled my arms with that thing. I have also been doing exercises where I stretch the arm by folding my hand backwards and I lift a 1lb weight with my wrist. Up and down. You can get rid of it but it's not easy. I hate it because if feels like my life is on hold. I can't do any kind of physical activity that involves heavy use of my arms.
wow thats a lot of advertisement for your own knowledge but not sharing it..
Yeah he said if you heal it the right way? What is the right way?
Check his website, he has a great program
Everyone, I've had this for 2 years and 7 months, tried everything apart from heat only... Like others have said, ice just makes it ache.. going for mri scan soon.. good luck everyone.
Simple injury to fix. Doesn't matter who you go to, Massage therapist, Physical therapist or chiropractor! Ultrasound therapy does wonders along with cold laser therapy. manual therapy like pin and stretch (Active release technique), Graston Technique, and deep tissue/ sport massage does the job. Of course do the RICE (rest, ice, compression, and elevation) if it's a fresh injury. If you have a chronic or recurrent condition try platelet therapy which is very effective. Stay away from steroid ( Cortisone) shots which has lots of bad side effects including weakening of your tendons and ligament which could ultimately cause full rupture. And lastly, the tennis elbow bracelet works a little bit. Good luck
Every time I try to get some help from the internet, as doctors don't help at all with my tennis elbow, I always find a new person trying to make money from desperate people, suffering from severe pain because of tennis elbow. It's been 2 years and I took already 2 steroid injections, the skin around the elbow is so damaged and the pain came back stronger than ever. I can't workout, I feel pain all the time all over my elbow, forearm and wrist even when I move my fingers. It's really a shame to take profit from people that are struggling.
So, the Doctor who gave you a Cortisone injection (which apparently harmed you) works for free - and "took no profit" from you? And for anyone, including you, who wants a warning about the risks of Cortisone shots - For free, by the way, see my video on the dangers of those shots, here: ua-cam.com/video/7evRaewblig/v-deo.html All the best to you and I hope you get better.
Tennis Elbow Classroom I'm not saying they didn't take profit. everybody does. just the day after I left this comment I woke up with swollen, red and hot elbow. couldn't move my arm at all. Went to A&E after GP, took x-ray and they mentioned something about osteoarthritis but nothing really clear for now. Two years for finally have a x-ray. So now more drugs to treat the inflammation and only in the 12th of June I'll have consultation with the orthopedist. 2 years already, I'm feeling very depressed which I believe is fair enough and now I can only wait for further in investigation. apologies for my first comment, I really believe your videos are quite helpful, more than all the others I've watched but is really annoying to come to find some answers and seems to be all a big secret that we have to pay (can't even imagine how much) to get to know.
Thank you very much for saying my videos are helpful. I'm sorry to hear you're having such a rough time. (I have to say, though, that your "swollen, red and hot" symptoms do not sound like "classic Tennis Elbow")...
You will find that there are a lot of people offering free treatment and exercise tips here on UA-cam. You just have to sift though a lot of marginal and outdated information to find the good stuff. I give away as much as I can, but there is only so much help and info one can realistically expect to get for free.
I actually specialize in treating people with Tennis Elbow in my practice, and I make part of my living selling my self-help program, which is guaranteed, refundable and thought to be well worth the price by many of my members.
But I don't think I would recommend it for you, anyway. It doesn't sound like a good fit for what you have - And after the damage that may have been done by those shots, (by the sound of it.)
GET THE flexbar! 3 WEEKS I WAS 95% BETTER
Great video. Subscribed. I am a personal trainer. 5 weeks ago I injured my right elbow extensor tendon. MRI showed a couple micro tears but not nearly enough to warrant surgery. For the first few weeks I just rested it and avoided using the arm as much as possible. As (some) of the pain started to subside I started stretches. Now I have purchased a theraband flexbar (the green one - medium). I have just started the exercises today. I'm chomping at the bit to get in the gym and rebuild but your advice has helped put things in perspective. Patience and rehab exercises performed correctly. Thank you for a completely honest dialog on this subject. Sugar coating with injuries doesn't physically help anyone.
Thanks for the comment and compliment, Michael! (It seems from many negative comments that a lot of people don't seem to get the point of this video, but you clearly do!)
No, it doesn't help anyone to "sugar coat" these kinds of injuries and promise them a recovery in any specific time frame. There is no meaningful "Average Healing Time" - And time alone is useless if you're not doing the right things to treat and rehab it.
Sounds like you're on the right track. Glad to hear you got an MRI so fast, and that it didn't look serious - (You didn't mention any Tendinosis, which is good.)
somebody please help me, I've had this problem for more than 4 years.
Suffering 8-9 weeks so far .... it’s debilitating
Try 6 months
Mine is going on 19 months
I'm suffering from it since two years and looking for a help from 7 year old video
Hey bro, how can I chat with you?
Easy just type in u tube how help with tennis elbow worked a treat fir me am am a plasterer
tks
You offered not even one once of treatment suggestions in this video! Seriously?
it dont hurt me that bad, it just feels like my elbow is bleeding or wet.
I've had it for over 6 months. Early this summer, I started eat red cherries. Believe it or not, huge relieve happened.
i have had this condition in my right elbow for the past 5 years and have had cortisone twice which proved quite effective the second time. its just a minor twinge now and again kind of gotten use to it and hardly notice. problem i have now is my left elbow has started i drive a bit 19000 miles in last 11 weeks in UK so my gears arm , any suggestions on how i minimize irritation.
I've had tennis elbow in my left elbow for 6 weeks, and I had it in my right elbow for 4 months.
I'm in the UK - patience doesn't cost the NHS. 7 months on and I'm still whinging about the chronic, intense pain.
Good point! They seem to pretty confident, based on their studies and statistical data, that a certain percentage of Golfer's and Tennis Elbow sufferers just "get better" after a YEAR or so, which is where I believe they come up with this "It's a self-limiting condition" nonsense claim. (Well, it may be true for some, statistically - but what use is that to you if you're not one of the lucky ones?... And you're still in pain after a year of "Resting, Hoping And Waiting?" Are you supposed to get excited about the fact that NOW you qualify for surgery?)
I would start it ..applying heat for half an hour for twice a day for 1 month..let's see how it works..
hi...did it work?
Mines been 8 months and still getting worse it's not getting better
great advice about not just resting it and expecting it to heal, I wish I hadn't listed to that crap when I first started getting golfers elbow from weightlifting!!!
I stayed out of the gym completely hoping it would heal, it stopped bothering me within a few months but it would flare up again pretty much any time I would use my arms with 100% effort (I mostly only noticed that when I was working on my car and encountered a bolt that was really stuck), and then for a week or more after causing a flair-up my elbows would hurt from basically anything that involved using my hands, even holding small objects. well now it's been almost 5 years since I quit working out and the golfers elbow still flairs up occasionally and stops me from doing anything too strenuous! Now I've been trying to find an actual solution that works, cuz resting it obviously doesn't, and I've recently found out about the theraband flexbars so I ordered a red, green, and blue version and hopefully those will work for me
Thanks for the compliment! (It seems that a lot of people don't really get the point of this video.)
Sorry to hear you haven't been able to work out for 5 years. That's a long time! I hope you start making progress soon.
+dummkompf im in the exact place you are. I bought my own ultrasound and it helps a lot with the flare ups, how are you now and how did the therabands workout? im willing to do surgery at this point or PRP injections too
+dummkompf Doesn't matter who you go to, Massage therapist, Physical therapist or chiropractor! Ultrasound therapy does wonders along with cold laser therapy. manual therapy like pin and stretch (Active release technique), Graston Technique, and deep tissue/ sport massage does the job. Of course do the RICE (rest, ice, compression, and elevation) if it's a fresh injury. If you have a chronic or recurrent condition try platelet therapy which is very effective. Stay away from steroid ( Cortisone) shots which has lots of bad side effects including weakening of your tendons and ligament which could ultimately cause full rupture. And lastly, the tennis elbow bracelet works a little bit. Good luck
M Francisco after 2 cortizone injections, 2 rounds of therapy in 1 year, and being down to 15% strength and use, i took a PRP injection and im 50% stronger and have 70% less pain. I will be doing it again,hoping to get to 100%. I highly recommend it!!
Love the info on this video Allen. Thank you ~ V
That's very kind of you, Vathani - You're very welcome!
I've pretty much given up on healing. I have very mild pain but it's been 7 months. I stopped everything for 2 months and it really didn't do anything. I've switched to playing tennis left handed and using a two handed backhand. I still use my right hand for the backhand but hit softly. Fact is I may never be able to hit normal ever again.
Go to his website, he has a great program that's very affordable and will save you a lot by not having to go every week to a therapist.
how you been
He keeps saying to "treat it" but doesn't say how
I watch this video and it made things worse! Now I don't know what to do!
I've had tennis ellbow for more than 2 years!
Ive had it two years on off
buy flexbar $15 bucks will get you 80%--100% healed
does shock waves helps in the process for golfer elbow thank you
I'm sure it helps some Golfer's Elbow sufferers - But does it make sense for you? (Most of the studies I've seen referring to Shockwave Therapy are in reference to Tennis Elbow - and some say it's helpful and some say it isn't.)
It's apparently a more aggressive form of Therapeutic Ultrasound - And to receive either, you need to see a Physical Therapist - and you would need to commit to weeks of regular visits.
Here's my relatively new video on Physical Therapy in general, if you're interested:
ua-cam.com/video/laLG29E-eoQ/v-deo.html
Thank very much
4+ months further it's still the same. Lost muscles, lost motivation, body out of shape. Tennis elbow sucks!
+YC1903 ditto, 20 lbs fatter and lost muscle after 7 months. I took the cortisone injection and had instant relief, hoping in 30 days I can start lifting at 50% strength at least
M Francisco take a PRP injection asap!! not cortizone, also do nothing with your arm extended,such as pull ups or flies, but PRP asap, it has brought me back to life
Marvin Francisco still got my gains but I feel like I have a ridiculously skinny left forearm now. This injury sucks
Been over a whole year and still haven't recovered.
Yes u right i have same problem my dislocate and fracture elbow
I have it for about 4 weeks. I work in a grocery store and got it from pulling very heavy carts and stocking shelves. Very repetitive movements. Def. check out your videos.
I'm 24 and I've had it for four months. It's still not better.