@paragonengines1924 You guys are awesome! I have been mesmerized with the level of professionalism & attention to detail while binge watching your content.
Fan of @ViceGripGarage here to see how this was all done. Let me say, you sir, are amazing! There's a big difference in an engine assembler and an engine builder.....and you sir, are a builder for sure!! Really enjoyed the series and will definitely be back to learn some more...Thank you!
Love seeing a younger guy using a height gage with a dial test on a surface plate, that’s how we built stamping/forming dies back in the day! Awesome job doing all the engineering to get those rails to work.
@@paragonengines1924 I'm no fan of the stamped rockers either because of non adjustability and inconsistent ratios. But it's funny you say wobbly then cut the shaft into 8 pieces though. But anyway IDK what all your time is worth but Harland Sharp will fix your rockers for about a grand and they are full roller, available in 1.6 ratio. Speaking of ratio, I'm a little worried about longevity with the 1.7 . That's a lot of PR to lifter angle, especially if using a high spring pressures. The lifter angle is already weird on the SBM anyway. Concerns about maintaining rotation and side loading of the lifter. Not gonna waste any more of your time here. I really liked the utilization of the Viper rods and the project over all.
Wow. Just Wow. Very cool. Can you make a cross-flow head for a Jeep 4.0L? Seems like you have the knowledge, skills, shop equipment and patience to pull it off. Greetings from the Great State of Alaska. Don't let ur meat loaf.
@@paragonengines1924 I see. I can guarantee you the Demand is very high. But, no one is going to buy a $5000 head for a Jeep 4.0L. So, really, the limiting factor is the cost per unit. Which I imagine would be quite high.
I’ve got a set of 1.9 ratio LS rockers on my 360 magnum just had to shorten the push rod and change the fastener put on a set of LS springs. I did this to see what the most I could get out of a stock long block. so far the cars are in 12.73@107 87, octane 323 gear, 3200 pound with driver on street tires
Very cool designing and machining. I’m just getting started on design and have been machining for a couple years. This is the exact kind of stuff I wanna do. Great work. I’m leaning auto fusion and Mastercam currently.
Love Derick the fam and now enjoying your content! My 1st muscle car was a 75 Duster, also my 1st engine build "the leaning tower of power" bored 60over 4bbl and headers with a big cam would rock at the car. People were shocked to see a 6cyl do that. 1st front end rebuild as well, Was planing a v8 swap when the car got stolen. Sure would love to relive the memories in this Duster!
Very interesting, I watched Derek install the engine in the duster a few days ago. Thanks for taking the time to document the build and ignore the haters.
I will put you on the list! If you do want some, send me an email, contact@paragonengines.com, with your contact info and I'll get back to you when I make them.
(Guess I just wrecked my browser by signing in; glad I had already watched this!) Just wanted to say, only partly joking (!), when Derek was playing with the mufflers on the lift this week, I don't recall ANY that sounded like the ones on your dyno. After I win, I'll have to get with you and find out what these are. Not a 'big car guy' but I really really liked that song. Usually don't watch channels like yours, because it just drives home the point I spent my life with no real skills. Lol.
@@danielroberts698 Exactamundo!!! I'm thinking despite it being a limited volume, basically production on demand, it'd still be considerably less than the very fine Sharps units. Should be even a little easier to mock up since the BB doesn't have the same lifter angle issue, if I recall correctly.
Nice ratchet I have two exactly the same, I also have the longer handle version with a different neck attachment, I also have one with a rotating head and hard plastic handle all in 3/8, I have more lol in other sizes, I also forgot the gearless I have a 3/8 and 1/4 but I don't use those much as they slip on me as I'm a 200 pound gorilla.
@paragonengines1924 you've really sparked my interest! I found online people adapting them to AMC v8s by cutting the original GM rocker stand into 4 pieces. They said the original mounting holes are 49mm centre to centre, the LS are 48mm centre to centre, and I just measured a magnum head and got 47mm.. so kinda the same situation.
Interesting enough when the LS valve train is upgraded for a high performance LS they go to a shaft mounted rocker system! When most people upgrade the 318 they go to pedestal mounted rockers and lose the shaft! I don't know if it's worth dropping the shaft mounted Mopar design
Have you thought about making those rocker adapters and selling them? In the future I want to build my 360 out of my 97 ram and it would be cool to have the ls rockers
Would a set of these rocker stands be able to be bought? I’m really digging the engine. I’ve ls swapped my d150 but after that build it’s got me wanting to build a 318.
Great series of videos on the vgg 318. Informative. I just don't understand why you switch from speaking English when talking about general topics to speaking Cantonese when talking about technical topics. 😂😂 I have assembled many engines in my life but still can't build them. You explaining things is quite interesting. I better be careful, i might learn something from you. Nope, doubtful. I'll just keep assembling, leave the design to you.
@paragonengines1924 it would be an awesome project. I might try mocking it up myself, but I don't know exactly what I'm looking for in terms of geometry.
Shaft rockers are the best. Mopar messed up when they went to pedestals (copying ford😢) and went back to shaft in hemis. Obviously the magnum engines had pedestal rockers back in the 90s-up to 2002
There are some advantages to pedestals. Lifter preload is one of them, self centering another. This means the Chevy pedestal arrangement is better on a stock Chevy engine than the stock Mopar shaft arrangement is IMO. This is because your Chevy will rev up with pedestals more than a Mopar will rev on the stock shaft setup. Stock Mopar shaft system is pass car only. You get about 4600RPM. To get the real advantages out of your Mopar shafts, you really need to upgrade the every last part of it, rendering the implementation of it for performance kind of limited but saying that I tried to do it the budget way and had a win (x2). One time I had a 440 and I had some adjustable pushrods made for it. Apart from the valve springs, pushrods and timing chain the rest of the valvetrain was stock. The ability to adjust the valves gave the thing about 1200 more useable RPM. I tried this on a 318 (springs + adjustable pushrods + timing chain) and it gave the lowly 318 about 1400 more useable RPM. Chevys just revved up easier than Mopars back in the day and that's the reason I've found. I now have to come clean. I have a 350 in a Toyota FJ40 and guess what? I have a shaft setup LOL. I got rid of the pedestals...
I'll take a roller block Magnum over a flat tappet LA any day. Shaft rocker setups are kinda idiot proof and lazy. And that's fine. But it is also limiting how much material 'tuning and tweaking' you can do. IMO
Is the top end oil flow correct with the Chevy style lifter /rockers compared to the stock type? As in not too much getting pumped up top and starving the pan at high RPM, etc? I've heard of it...
That is really sweet! I would love to duplicate this, are you interested in making available pieces to sell? The rocker arms have long been a liability on the mopars unless you pay out for full adjustable roller rockers for the shafts which is pricey. I’m sure this would not be cheap either but the serviceability and fine tune-ability with this would be superior I think.
That tony bloke thinks that LS guys go straight to shaft rockers if there getting serious, but in reality only until they go to a solid roller cam or circuit racing, other than that they just go with a trunion upgrade on stock LS rockers. The reason they do this other than it's a lot cheaper is that the LS rockers are a great design super rigid and with no adjusters or roller tips are super lightweight , which allows the LS engine to RPM a lot easier obviously with the right hydraulic cam shaft and spring package . And yes there hard on valve guides, valve stems and tips but they get the job done.
Good points! I wouldn't say they are too hard on guides and tips, considering they can go for over 300K miles and still have very little guide and tip wear.
What were you going for with this conversion? Actual question, I'm genuinely curious. Because you could have had an off the shelf 1.7 rocker if you used the Edelbrock 61779 heads and still with an air gap intake. It's unclear to me why you've gone to the extent of custom parts, milling and clearancing to achieve something that could have been done with off the shelf parts.
In the first video he says that it was to use parts laying around his shop, ls rockers v10 viper connecting rods, etc they did buy some new parts but it was basically to see if they could do it
I don't see the point. Whatever money was saved using used LS rockers was probably eaten up with the design and machining of the bar. How do you provide oil to the rockers and valves? On the LA style of heads this is done with the oil thru the shaft.
Really don’t get why you did this… was it trying to get the 1.7 on this? Cause I don’t see how it could be cost effective unless all the other stuff was free and just sitting around then I could see doing that. I would like to see a break down of the cam and then see the results on the Dino. What was your thoughts on the motor for power? Did the 1.7 meet your goals? Nice work!
I ate the R&D costs, as a test to see if it could be done. if it was a one off that the customer got charged for, yes, it would have eaten it up 10 fold. But it was awesome to see the final project and share it with people to show what is possible.
Well is was a test of my capabilities and pushing the limits of what is possible! I also have the feather that I am the first guy to ever put LS rockers in a 318!
Because mopar rockers are bad about shooting a pushrod through them at high RPMs. Factory mopar shaft rockers are basically 1930s technology. If something was to happen to a LS rocker any parts store would have them in stock, mopar rockers are a pain to get when your in a pinch and in a hurry.
1.6 solid roller big cam do the same thing and dont have to go nuts trying to figure out where to find odball parts when they break. no need to frankenstine a motor. as far as modern parts go as a reason then build magnum or 3rd gen hemi. granted 3rd gen hemi parts can cost more than ls parts primaraly do to not many in junkyards but the hemi will do more than an ls. put yourself in sombodys shoes when any part of that breaks at a track and have any luck finding parts there esspecialy the rocker shaft. If i win the car I will be selling the valve train and donating all the funds to Til Valhalla Project. @@paragonengines1924
I love the innovation, but with all of this work you could have just bought dome Harland Sharps or T&D"s. I do get the ideal of being able to get stuff from the junkyard.
Great work! Appreciate ya!
Thanks buddy! looking forward to the next project!
It would be cool to see this on the dyno. Maybe upcoming idk. Gold duster stripe?
Here from Uncle Tony.
Awesome! Welcome!
@paragonengines1924 You guys are awesome! I have been mesmerized with the level of professionalism & attention to detail while binge watching your content.
Fan of @ViceGripGarage here to see how this was all done. Let me say, you sir, are amazing! There's a big difference in an engine assembler and an engine builder.....and you sir, are a builder for sure!! Really enjoyed the series and will definitely be back to learn some more...Thank you!
I really appreciate that! I'll try to keep the good stuff coming!
Love seeing a younger guy using a height gage with a dial test on a surface plate, that’s how we built stamping/forming dies back in the day! Awesome job doing all the engineering to get those rails to work.
This guy is awesome
Thanks! I try to use all the tools at my disposal!
Thank you!
Nice build. Thanks for sharing
No problem 👍
sir, your skills are very admirable !!
Thank you! Cheers!
Agreed!
Nice to see some decent engineering. Everything looked good after first run, plus it sounds great.
It turned out at good as I could have hoped!
Nice build
Glad you think so!
Awesome job...now to mass produce a kit, and maybe see what can be done with the magnum style setup...Thank you for sharing!!!
If I had the demand, I would! You're welcome!
Yes to the magnums, very curious about this.
Sounds VERY healthy for a '318'. Nicely done.
I appreciate that!
Great work! Thanks for the in depth info
My pleasure!
Pretty interesting work and conversion you did. Not sure of the necessity of it but i definitely understand a challenge. 👍
I had to do something to get rid those wobbly tractor rocker arms that were on there!
@@paragonengines1924 I'm no fan of the stamped rockers either because of non adjustability and inconsistent ratios. But it's funny you say wobbly then cut the shaft into 8 pieces though. But anyway IDK what all your time is worth but Harland Sharp will fix your rockers for about a grand and they are full roller, available in 1.6 ratio. Speaking of ratio, I'm a little worried about longevity with the 1.7 . That's a lot of PR to lifter angle, especially if using a high spring pressures. The lifter angle is already weird on the SBM anyway. Concerns about maintaining rotation and side loading of the lifter. Not gonna waste any more of your time here. I really liked the utilization of the Viper rods and the project over all.
I appreciate all the time to walk us thru setup , as a machinist its interesting
You're welcome! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Wow, nice job.
Thanks!
As the story goes, 2" more and i'd be the King and 2" less and i'd be the Queen!!!!!!!.
Wise words!
That's the funniest shit I have heard in a long time!!!
Not sure why people have their panties in a wad but I guess you’ll always have that. Great video and great build
Me either! Thank you!
Because the internet has made complaining a career and the same people are only happy when mad at something
What a true one off build. Sounds great, looks great. This is why I have the trust in your shop and would recommend your place to anyone. Keep it up!!
Thank you! I really appreciate it!
Bravo 👏 👏 👏 👏
Thanks!
If you're a Mopar guy theres no interest.
BUT..... I do like the hottrodding element of making something work.
I don't know, I have had a few Mopar guys reach out wanting to buy some.
@@paragonengines1924 then they're either young or idiots lol
Got it, I'll make sure to let them know!
Genius!!
Thank you!
As a machinist and a mopar guy, I really liked this. Innovation and being different is what drives us forward.
I agree, thank you!
Wow. Just Wow. Very cool.
Can you make a cross-flow head for a Jeep 4.0L? Seems like you have the knowledge, skills, shop equipment and patience to pull it off.
Greetings from the Great State of Alaska. Don't let ur meat loaf.
I probably could figure it out, but it is something I would have to have enough demand for in order to put the time in!
@@paragonengines1924 I see. I can guarantee you the Demand is very high. But, no one is going to buy a $5000 head for a Jeep 4.0L. So, really, the limiting factor is the cost per unit. Which I imagine would be quite high.
This is sounding and lookin really good 👏👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you!
That's a piece of art!!!!!! The sound!!!!!
Thank you!
I’ve got a set of 1.9 ratio LS rockers on my 360 magnum just had to shorten the push rod and change the fastener put on a set of LS springs. I did this to see what the most I could get out of a stock long block. so far the cars are in 12.73@107 87, octane 323 gear, 3200 pound with driver on street tires
Very nice!
There a set of speed master 746-PCE261.1097
@user-il6ur5nh8w are they a shaft rocker style?
@@grahamm3559magnum engines are a pedestal mount so it woud be less work and it's a better flowing head .
Very cool designing and machining. I’m just getting started on design and have been machining for a couple years. This is the exact kind of stuff I wanna do. Great work. I’m leaning auto fusion and Mastercam currently.
You can do it!
Love Derick the fam and now enjoying your content! My 1st muscle car was a 75 Duster, also my 1st engine build "the leaning tower of power" bored 60over 4bbl and headers with a big cam would rock at the car. People were shocked to see a 6cyl do that. 1st front end rebuild as well, Was planing a v8 swap when the car got stolen. Sure would love to relive the memories in this Duster!
Love it! Always great to see people out there building and having fun!
I bought myself a shirt and im just waiting to see. Sweet engine work. Congrats.
Good luck, thank you!
Hope I'm the lucky fan!
Cross your fingers!
Mild steel might be fine given the thickness but I wonder about harmonics. I guess we will see. Nice job. Thing of beauty.
Good point! It was a concern. And thank you!
I hope we'll get to see it in a car soon?
@vicegripgarage is putting it into a duster! Go check it out!
Really cool. Thank you for the series.
You're welcome, it was fun!
Mopar guys are gonna want these, brace yourself
I hope so! Send them my way if you see them!
Great job making the engine Chrysler tough with Chevrolet stuff 👍
Thanks 👍
Really cool! I hope you post more projects like this in the future! 👍🏼
Me too! I'll try to find some more fun stuff like this!
@@paragonengines1924 I’ll be watching! In the meantime I’ll peruse your older videos.
Very interesting, I watched Derek install the engine in the duster a few days ago. Thanks for taking the time to document the build and ignore the haters.
This is a cool engine combination.
Thank you! we wanted something different!
That looks and sounds amazing!! I'm so glad to be able to see this completed. I know you guys did a mountain of work and this is truly one of a kind
Thanks so much!
Sounds great, like really smooth, but could get to the power band pretty quick!
Definitely quicker than the stock rockers!
Looks like someone did the caged bearing upgrade on those LS rockers.
You have to! Otherwise, you risk sprinkling those needle bearings in the motor!
@@paragonengines1924 Yep. I think I used the kit from Comp when I did mine.
I'd like to buy a set or two as well
I will put you on the list! If you do want some, send me an email, contact@paragonengines.com, with your contact info and I'll get back to you when I make them.
I hope whoever wins this never has to take it to a shop. Will have the mechanics scratching their heads. Should be a screaming little car!
Well they will have a pretty good documentation of what's inside!
(Guess I just wrecked my browser by signing in; glad I had already watched this!)
Just wanted to say, only partly joking (!), when Derek was playing with the mufflers on the lift this week, I don't recall ANY that sounded like the ones on your dyno. After I win, I'll have to get with you and find out what these are.
Not a 'big car guy' but I really really liked that song.
Usually don't watch channels like yours, because it just drives home the point I spent my life with no real skills. Lol.
Magnaflow is what was on the stand. One of my favorites as well.
Now we need you to whip up the same for the Mopar big block.
Not a bad idea, I know they are close on dimensions!
@@paragonengines1924that would be interesting. If I had that kind of cash to marry my 427fe to a 426. That would make my coupe hustle!! Lol
Yes that would be great for my 440. I am having a hard time thinking about dropping 1000 for Harland Sharps
@@danielroberts698 Exactamundo!!! I'm thinking despite it being a limited volume, basically production on demand, it'd still be considerably less than the very fine Sharps units. Should be even a little easier to mock up since the BB doesn't have the same lifter angle issue, if I recall correctly.
Love it, got a 2wd ramcharger with a 318 that needs some luvvin would be a cool mod for sure!!
We are working on it!
Non-adjustable shaft rockers suck! This set up is much better. Mopar and Chevy rule!
Thanks!
Nice ratchet I have two exactly the same, I also have the longer handle version with a different neck attachment, I also have one with a rotating head and hard plastic handle all in 3/8, I have more lol in other sizes, I also forgot the gearless I have a 3/8 and 1/4 but I don't use those much as they slip on me as I'm a 200 pound gorilla.
Always nice to have the right tools!
Hats off, that is pimp!
Thank you!
Interesting project, very creative! Do you think you'd be able to adapt these rockers to the magnum style mopar heads?
Possibly! I would just need the right amount of demand to warrant the time!
@paragonengines1924 you've really sparked my interest! I found online people adapting them to AMC v8s by cutting the original GM rocker stand into 4 pieces. They said the original mounting holes are 49mm centre to centre, the LS are 48mm centre to centre, and I just measured a magnum head and got 47mm.. so kinda the same situation.
Please export kits to Australia 🇦🇺
Starting a list, shall I put you down for a few?
If you wanted to sell the pat have Derick get ahold of cleatus and I would say that they would buy that pat
That's something to think about!
Interesting enough when the LS valve train is upgraded for a high performance LS they go to a shaft mounted rocker system! When most people upgrade the 318 they go to pedestal mounted rockers and lose the shaft! I don't know if it's worth dropping the shaft mounted Mopar design
Well it's kind of a shaft system, I'm going to have a video next week going over the differences!
Have you thought about making those rocker adapters and selling them? In the future I want to build my 360 out of my 97 ram and it would be cool to have the ls rockers
Yes, I have! I'm trying to build up enough demand to start producing them!
@@paragonengines1924 oh gotcha okay awesome! Yeah I think if more people who have the 318 or 360 see that it’s possible people would want it
Hey man this was excellent! Would you market these rocker set ups?
Possibly, depends on demand. I'd hate to go through the work to make a bunch and have no one buy them!
Question how does the rocker arms get oiled?
From the original rocker shaft bolt holes on the 318 head ?
Through the pushrods like an SBC.
Would a set of these rocker stands be able to be bought? I’m really digging the engine. I’ve ls swapped my d150 but after that build it’s got me wanting to build a 318.
I am putting together a list of protentional customers. You want a set, send me an email, contact@paragonengines.com, and I'll put you on the list!
Great series of videos on the vgg 318. Informative. I just don't understand why you switch from speaking English when talking about general topics to speaking Cantonese when talking about technical topics. 😂😂
I have assembled many engines in my life but still can't build them. You explaining things is quite interesting. I better be careful, i might learn something from you. Nope, doubtful. I'll just keep assembling, leave the design to you.
Well anyone can learn, it's not rocket science!
Do you have any Magnum heads there you could try them on with the GM rocker stands to see how close it is to working? Would make a good video.
I don't, but is has been a point of interest for some people so could be a future project.
@paragonengines1924 it would be an awesome project. I might try mocking it up myself, but I don't know exactly what I'm looking for in terms of geometry.
What is the cost for this conversion set up?
I am not selling it at the moment. If I have enough demand, I will make more to sell!
You could call it a MoLSpar motor....😉
Good one!
Shaft rockers are the best. Mopar messed up when they went to pedestals (copying ford😢) and went back to shaft in hemis.
Obviously the magnum engines had pedestal rockers back in the 90s-up to 2002
There are some advantages to pedestals. Lifter preload is one of them, self centering another. This means the Chevy pedestal arrangement is better on a stock Chevy engine than the stock Mopar shaft arrangement is IMO. This is because your Chevy will rev up with pedestals more than a Mopar will rev on the stock shaft setup.
Stock Mopar shaft system is pass car only. You get about 4600RPM.
To get the real advantages out of your Mopar shafts, you really need to upgrade the every last part of it, rendering the implementation of it for performance kind of limited but saying that I tried to do it the budget way and had a win (x2).
One time I had a 440 and I had some adjustable pushrods made for it. Apart from the valve springs, pushrods and timing chain the rest of the valvetrain was stock. The ability to adjust the valves gave the thing about 1200 more useable RPM. I tried this on a 318 (springs + adjustable pushrods + timing chain) and it gave the lowly 318 about 1400 more useable RPM. Chevys just revved up easier than Mopars back in the day and that's the reason I've found.
I now have to come clean. I have a 350 in a Toyota FJ40 and guess what? I have a shaft setup LOL. I got rid of the pedestals...
I'll take a roller block Magnum over a flat tappet LA any day. Shaft rocker setups are kinda idiot proof and lazy.
And that's fine. But it is also limiting how much material 'tuning and tweaking' you can do. IMO
They are the best, but not the way they came on these motors!
Good information!
You're right there!
Is the top end oil flow correct with the Chevy style lifter /rockers compared to the stock type? As in not too much getting pumped up top and starving the pan at high RPM, etc? I've heard of it...
That is a valid concern, but we do have a larger capacity pan to help with that.
@@paragonengines1924 GOTCHA!
That is really sweet! I would love to duplicate this, are you interested in making available pieces to sell? The rocker arms have long been a liability on the mopars unless you pay out for full adjustable roller rockers for the shafts which is pricey. I’m sure this would not be cheap either but the serviceability and fine tune-ability with this would be superior I think.
Because of the other modifications required to the heads, I have only offered them as a package with the heads so I can machine everything properly.
That tony bloke thinks that LS guys go straight to shaft rockers if there getting serious, but in reality only until they go to a solid roller cam or circuit racing, other than that they just go with a trunion upgrade on stock LS rockers. The reason they do this other than it's a lot cheaper is that the LS rockers are a great design super rigid and with no adjusters or roller tips are super lightweight , which allows the LS engine to RPM a lot easier obviously with the right hydraulic cam shaft and spring package . And yes there hard on valve guides, valve stems and tips but they get the job done.
Good points! I wouldn't say they are too hard on guides and tips, considering they can go for over 300K miles and still have very little guide and tip wear.
Would it be possible to do a jessel style roocker with the short shaft running through two rockers ?
Yes, it would be. But, for ease of service, being able to buy a standard ls rocker arm and bolt it on was a higher priority.
My question is WHY? What’s the purpose or advantage of doing this?
Can use cheap rockers from a used LS motor vs $1000usd on mopar rollers
1.7 ratio, serviceability, availability, higher rpm capability, and "cool factor".
Also true!
Doing the LS rockers just ruins what the shaft mount system was designed for. Stability.
Got it, thank you.
any dino numbers with stock mopar vs the ls conversion ?
Not yet, we may do it in the future.
How much for that as a crate engine?
If you would like to get one, you can email me at contact@paragonengines.com and I can write you a formal estimate for it.
Do you have the adapter rails for 440 ?
We do not. We could produce some if we have enough demand. we would probably need about 15-20 orders to get a production run going.
To bad mopar still has little aftermarket support!!!
They don't have much! Would help if there was more!
@@paragonengines1924 my brother is a mopar guy i shared your channel to him!!!!👍👍👍
What were you going for with this conversion?
Actual question, I'm genuinely curious.
Because you could have had an off the shelf 1.7 rocker if you used the Edelbrock 61779 heads and still with an air gap intake.
It's unclear to me why you've gone to the extent of custom parts, milling and clearancing to achieve something that could have been done with off the shelf parts.
In the first video he says that it was to use parts laying around his shop, ls rockers v10 viper connecting rods, etc they did buy some new parts but it was basically to see if they could do it
@@bermanss350 👍🏻 that makes sense
Like @bermanss350 said, it was more to do something different and interesting. It was a nice challenge to see what could be done!
So is this Ls heads or Chrysler heads?
Speedmaster 318 heads.
Whats the tatoo for? Most have a story to tell!!!👍👍👍
That will stay a fable for the ages!
I don't see the point. Whatever money was saved using used LS rockers was probably eaten up with the design and machining of the bar. How do you provide oil to the rockers and valves? On the LA style of heads this is done with the oil thru the shaft.
You can oil through the pushrods. LS engines do it that way, same as the Magnums.
Yep. Just different lifters 👍
Really don’t get why you did this… was it trying to get the 1.7 on this? Cause I don’t see how it could be cost effective unless all the other stuff was free and just sitting around then I could see doing that. I would like to see a break down of the cam and then see the results on the Dino. What was your thoughts on the motor for power? Did the 1.7 meet your goals? Nice work!
If you go back a video he gives all of the cam info.
I ate the R&D costs, as a test to see if it could be done. if it was a one off that the customer got charged for, yes, it would have eaten it up 10 fold. But it was awesome to see the final project and share it with people to show what is possible.
The rockers hardly make it an LS . The funny thing is …. A popular modification for LS motors , is to convert them to mopar style shaft rockers 😂😂😂
yes well said this is stupid waste of time = i made roller rockers - voodoo lunatti .
Trust me Mopar guys don't want to ls our engines
But even when ls guys go to a shaft style they still use LS rocker arms.
You're not wrong! It's not only the rockers, it a combination of other factors that lead to that name.
Well is was a test of my capabilities and pushing the limits of what is possible! I also have the feather that I am the first guy to ever put LS rockers in a 318!
Now tackle the Buick engines next, including the nail head.
just buy correct aftermarket ones = this is a waste of time ! - for weak parts .
oofff, that would be for another time!
oh jeez, you again? Why are you so obsessed with how I spent my time?
All it needs now is a full LS swap.
Yeeeaaaah, but then you would have to get adapters for the mounts and trans and that is just too much work!
Yeah and be like everyone else with a sbc or LS ....no thanks barf emoji
Why would you put stand rockers on an engine with a far far far superior shaft system ???? Makes no sense
Ah. You're one of those hard core mopar only type guys. 🤦
No I'm not..but I am a hardcore "shaft" rocker systems guy
Because mopar rockers are bad about shooting a pushrod through them at high RPMs. Factory mopar shaft rockers are basically 1930s technology. If something was to happen to a LS rocker any parts store would have them in stock, mopar rockers are a pain to get when your in a pinch and in a hurry.
Lighter
Just for fun, I guess!
still cant see why? alot of extra for nothing but originalality
1.7 ratio, lighter tip weight, modern parts, better high rpm stability...
1.6 solid roller big cam do the same thing and dont have to go nuts trying to figure out where to find odball parts when they break. no need to frankenstine a motor. as far as modern parts go as a reason then build magnum or 3rd gen hemi. granted 3rd gen hemi parts can cost more than ls parts primaraly do to not many in junkyards but the hemi will do more than an ls. put yourself in sombodys shoes when any part of that breaks at a track and have any luck finding parts there esspecialy the rocker shaft. If i win the car I will be selling the valve train and donating all the funds to Til Valhalla Project. @@paragonengines1924
you completely missed the correct geometry. way over the tip. didn't come back even to center when open
Thanks!
Its a chevy. Its supposed to suck oil and puke smoke after 25k and burnt valve guides😂
Why, there are magnum mopar rockers available... there's no point or advantage in doing that .. waste of $$$ and time ..
I love the innovation, but with all of this work you could have just bought dome Harland Sharps or T&D"s. I do get the ideal of being able to get stuff from the junkyard.
@@brianf694 I believe stock magnum rockers are also 1.6 ratio
If you don't see the point after watching the video, then I can't be much more help in getting you to understand.
It was more to see if it could be done, than anything. But, I also wasn't trying to sell them, until I realized that people would actually want them.
Could be, but these are 1.7.
Yawn zzzzzzzz
Thanks for watchin'!
Just buy a set of yella terra - roller rockers for dodge ! = them factory rollers are not really good !
At high rpm the stock ls rocker is lighter and has better valve control than a heavy yella terra rocker.
The factory 318 rockers are not roller...
That would be correct!
WHAT HEADS ARE THESE??????
I have a full detailed explanation on the second video of the series. They are speedmaster heads.