Vice Grip Garage Duster Engine Build Biography, LS 318 part 1
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- This is the first in a series of videos that go over the engine build that is going into the VGG Duster build. It was a fun project and we pioneered a few different things that we aren't sure if they should have been done but they were anyway. This video goes over the block machining. Check out the engine install over @ViceGripGarage !
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When you turn on the coolant pump for decking I thought: "Way too much. Perfect."
Nice work. 😎👍
Yeah, it was a little TOO wet!
Great work! Thanks for helping Derek out with this project. Whoever wins that car is in for a surprise
You bet! it's a nice one!
I was thinking, "those chips should be fluffier." Then, you say, "more iron than I thought"😂
Nice setup👍
The chips always take up more space than you would think!
Thanks for the details, nice work!
Thanks for watching!
I was really hoping we would find out more about this setup. Thanks for sharing.
You bet!
wow a CNC to bore, that is some cool next level stuff.
It's bluetooth too! I have a video on it if you have more interest!
I love a Frankenstein engine build! And I caught your "couple inches short" joke there at the end 😂. Subscribed!
It happens to the best of us! Thank you!
AWESOME....you are a MASTER & ARTIST....love it....MOAPR 4 EVER.
Thank you! I try my best!
Keep the videos coming I’ll keep watching 🤩
Will do! I appreciate the support!
Thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
Nice to see some detailed engine work. I came over to see what you would be doing on with the 318. Very glad i did. Very nice workmanship.
We try to do our best on every project!
fascinating! Thanks for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it!
🔥I’m all about one off custom builds, you do great work and great build 🔥👊🔥🏍⚙️🔨
Thanks 👍
Really great video very informative especially for the VGG fans who have been wondering about this engine build! Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
I'm so glad you did this video!
Thanks buddy! It was the right time to get back into it!
When I work on a haas machine with modern interlocks i like to put the M8 on its own line in the program then put a block delete / in front of it so that the window stays clean when you are taking your first cut then you can turn the cooant on manually from the control panel and continue with the rest of the program as normal
Good point! I'll be using that tip on the next program!
Cool! I was wonderin what sparkalators she uses! 😂 👍🏼
she needed some custom lighting tubes to match!
@@paragonengines1924 😂👍🏼
That is very impressive milling machine you have 👍
Thanks! It's quite a unit!
Looking forward to more on this build👍👍.
You and me both!
You guys do very nice machine work there!
Thank you very much!
Great video :D , Nice machines!!!!! :D
Thank you very much!
You have all the fun toys. I'm going to rebuild a 78 318 this winter but it's just going to be the bare minimum. I'm just crossing my fingers the heads are flat and the block deck is good. The motor currently has good compression but a blown head gadget.
Let's hope she's straight!
What a great surprise seeing you back.glad to see it.excited to see more
Thank you!
Sick vid. Look forward to this series
Thanks! it's a good one!
Hell yea brother!!!!! I've been waiting for new videos from you. And It turns out to be Derrick's engine. This is great!!!!!!!
More to come!
Great stuff! Can’t wait for the next one
Thank you!
I'm jealous. Your about to blow it out of the water!
I hope so! Thank you for the support!
Excited you’re back and excited for this build
I appreciate it!
Thank you for your knowledge and video's USA 🇺🇸
you're welcome!
I tried the LS rocker setup on magnum heads and while they would bolt on with SAE comparable bolts, the short tip height of the valves even with the smaller beehive retainers didnt afford enoufh clearance. That and the geometry wasn't good at all. Definitely needed a longer tip height valve for that setup to work, so unless you have a machine shop and the parts lying around its not really worth it.
Yes it does require some different parts, but if you are already rebuilding the motor, they aren't a big change.
Longer valves is something magnums need anyway tho right?
@@henrymeynier5072 the problem I had was availability of a valve with an overall length and tip height that would package a 1.7" or greater valve spring installed height, which was going to be costly when considering offset retainers, and/locks to fit a different set of valves. Then there was the issue of geometry; as you lengthen the OAL of the valve the termination point of the fulcrum is raised, and the length of the rocker becomes too long, bringing the contact point on the stem much further out. The 59* lifter angle doesn't help either, but isn't as critical. After initial measurements I decided it was a better option to retain the OE length valves and cut the seat down .050" as there was plenty of material between the seat and water jacket/runners. Good enough for a street cam and supporting valvetrain.
Oh man...my grandfather's 86 dodge d150 royale SE I inherited has a 318 itching for this..
It would be a nice upgrade!
@@paragonengines1924 💪💪
Awesome video! Looking forward to more
Thank you!
Awesome! Keep ‘em coming
Will do!
Very interesting
Glad you think so!
POW!!!!! Down goes Chrysler !!!!!! " Chrysler did a pretty good job .... 50 years ago "
They were doing the best they could with what they had, I don't blame them!
@@paragonengines1924
Do you have any data on how this would work on a big block mopar?
@@henrymeynier5072 I don't. I have heard it would but haven't looked into it.
Good show!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Pretty bad ass!
Thank you!
sweet
She is, ain't she!
Thought you'll quit, but probably to busy.
Nice idea adding gm Ls rockers to your application.
Custom is nice and great but expensive, working with run of the mill that can fit is excellent.
Quite busy! It was a fun project!
@paragonengines1924 great we await the next videos
MOPAR w2/w9 heads use rocker studs instead of shafts. They widen out the spacing between the center exhaust ports and oval them
Good info!
Interesting idea… I’m not necessarily a fan of the downgrade to oiling the top end through the pushrods instead of metered pulses through the rocker shaft (even though Mopar themselves did it on the Magnum version of the 318), but since the Mopar Performance stamped steel shaft rockers are now unobtainium this is a really interesting way to use a common, strong, and reliable stamped rocker design. Just have to make sure the main and rods still get priority oiling instead of pumping it all up to the valve covers.
It did have plenty of oil pressure so it wasn't considered an issue!
@@paragonengines1924 I’m sure it’s not too much of an issue, especially with oils as good as they are now. I’m still biased by memories of tearing down pushrod-oiled Chevies and Fords in the 70s and finding 12 of 16 pushrods plugged solid with hard packed oil sludge compared to high mileage 318s and 383s that still oiled all the rockers evenly through the shaft system.
The Chrysler 318 LA small block will run with the big dogs including the 360 small block Mopar engine
They do make some decent power!
I have a 75 MGB that needs some major TLC. Interested?
Not at the moment! I know less than zero about those, but I appreciate the consideration!
Hard to have this playing in the background as I do stuff when that music starts blaring out
I'd rather hear shop sounds, like when I used to work in a shop. Might have the game on a radio...
I forgot to sound level the music track, I'll do better next time!
What is the compression?
Around 10.5:1.
Why are you using a one insert fly face cutter instead of a 6 or 8 inch face mill with 12 to 14 insert
Mainly because there don't really have anything that is available in an 11" diam for a reasonable price. Also, every time I wanted to switch between cutting aluminum and cast iron, I would have to change all of those inserts or have 2 cutters.
wow that block was a mess!
No kidding!
Should it have had a torque plate on it during boring?
It doesn't really affect the boring process. plus, I wouldn't have enough room to clear it in the machine.
need a big block chevy Ls /hemi neither chevy or chrysler would ever dream of
Well basically the 632 that GM came out with. I'd like to mess with one of those and wee what could be done!
@@paragonengines1924 imagine a hemi head on a big block chevy i have an idea that could possibly eliminate camshafts all together and allow unlimited power to be built , its too bad auto manufacturers are stuck chasing their tails doing what the other guy does. there is so so many things that could be done
What were you measuring with the pocket surf BTW i have never seen that what is it? on the deck you said "18", 18 what?
Surface roughness in microns I think. Instrument appears to be on Ra (Average Roughness) setting.
I have some other videos on it, but that is a profilometer. It measures how smooth the surface finish is. The "18" measurement is microinch Ra.
@@paragonengines1924 Thank you for answering I was being lazy I googled it
please use a torque plate!
It got a torque plate when it was honed!
It's just another case of somebody trying to reinvent the will. Official equipment used for target practice . Or a boat anchor. You'll be better off using a Pontiac set up 😅
Who's "will" are we trying to reinvent? I'm not a lawyer...
Should just used a 5.2 magnum
Could have, but that wouldn't be any fun!
Why did you call this an LS 318? It's just a slowpar 318.
Because it has similar specs to an LS1 and uses LS rockers.
Did you ever that turd started?
On a fresh bore job why is there approx .0015 differnt measurement from where you first started measuring ? Come on a 200,000 dollar machine that thing should be within a .0001
If you are talking about when I am measuring the bores, the monkey holding the camera cant hold a bore gauge straight at the same time! The second 2 measurements are the top and bottom of the cylinders, which were within a few tenth's.
LS?? Shame on you. Its same than call south korea and north korea to same... mopar LA
ummm, ok?
Thats an "LA" not an LS. And it sounds like a dud.
YeS, We KnOw It'S aN "LA". I will take your auditory expertise into consideration!
Alternative title: slowpar ls 318 build
Could be, if it was slow...