I think removing dislikes is probably the worst thing that this platform has ever implemented, if you ask me, I think there should be more competition in the space to challenge UA-cam on these stupid decisions.
Them removing dislikes kinda shows their stance. They only did it because youtuber (pedo) apology videos where getting hella disliked bombed and aparwntly that was a problem
@@Deathmare235yeah it turns out all his videos are pretty much fake, the Aum Shinrikyo/Hikari no Wa video is a perfect example. If you just do the most basic research it’s pretty clear that it’s bs, or at least very overblown, he makes a big show of acting like he’s risking his life by covering this topic, even though AM has been defunct for well over a decade and HnW’s members are still under strict government surveillance in Japan.
@@soyradom4537 Not to mention he also turned his important work into entertainment that faked a lot of the scenarios that were going on. Very weird of him to do when he could have easily just busted these guys like Chris Hansen or Skeeter Jean does.
I genuinely miss the original days of UA-cam. Dislikes were public, content was raw, ads were unthinkable. Things have changed so drastically and its not all in a good way.
Agreed. I miss old UA-cam. UA-cam always changes for the worst unfortunately and has done for over 10 years now. I joined in 2008 and you could say ANYTHING and EVERYTHING with no community guidelines or real consequences for ages. People were aloud a voice no matter what you said. People shouldn't be allowed to have their opinion forced shut like YT do nowadays .
Ngl this is most likely going to be the case with this video, they have tons of bots that strike videos with any mention of key words. Ducking stupid and I don’t see how that helps at all.
@@Fleetstreetbestone autocorrect lol But also you’re right, UA-cam bots are dumb and just focus on “oh this person said shit” without even knowing or caring about anything else
I LIKE YOU DATE-YOUNGGIRLS.ONLINE Gaze: "Amazed" Lips: "Sensual" Smile: "Sweeter" Body: "Colder" The first and last love Lots of love from the world I like your look You are very pretty You guys are too cute Makes me love you. Жизнь, как красивая мелодия, только песни перепутались. Köz karaş: ''Taŋ kaldım'' Erinder: ''Sezimdüü'' Jılmayuu: ''Tattuuraak'' Dene: ''Muzdak'' Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis. Aç köz arstan Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon. #Чо #эт #делает #на #2 #месте #в #тренде Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu gana taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. ''Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt'' dep oylodu arstan. Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. #однако #я #люблю #таких #рыбаков #垃圾
UA-cam literally: -Removed the ability for people to dislike a video -Implemented a policy that allows them to censor content -Let corporate entities like TV Shows and Brands dictate what content is suitable and which isnt If you told me it was like this in 2012-13 I wouldve laughed lmao. This platform has turned into a digital version of cable TV
Everything is about business anymore. A lot of things start off with the people they serve in mind but always go to the money and corporate interests, like video game companies... It used to be about the players but now it's about the bottom line and profit
Charlie is the Moses of UA-cam. He's metaphorically parting the brown sea of shit that is UA-cam in order and clarify an adult voice on major issues. In all honesty, he's one of the last people left that have a chance of keeping this platform afloat
The reason people are hating on Charlie is because we've already done it his way. Charlie pointed it out himself. He sat Susan down, asked her tough questions, and she lied through her teeth. Do you know why? Because the general population didn't see it. This gets the general population to see it. And in a world where UA-cam support doesn't do anything until you get enough likes on your tweet, it's painfully obvious that Charlie is bashing on the only thing that will actually change anything.
@@dahat1992 he's not "bashing" the tweet, he is saying that the tweet is a misconstruction of the actual issue, which is UA-cam censoring creators and videos that talk about disturbing topics and events. That's a pretty fair and correct criticism.
@@dahat1992 12:20 start from there and listen to the rest of the video, he agrees that a Twitter trend is a good course of action. that doesn't sound like "bashing" to me, it seems like he just didn't think that the used hashtag was a good one, or that there were better ones that could've been used instead.
Let’s not forget the historical channels too they get it absolutely raw. The Great War channel has had a huge portion of their WW1 videos demonetized. Their sister channel, which goes over WW2, had all their videos demonetized almost immediately.
That's one of my problems with Mama Max only focusing on pedo hunting content. It's brain dead to suggest that UA-cam is protecting pedos because it's run by them, when the reality is UA-cam has been run by apathetic cowardly corporate types for several years now.
@@ivansmirnoff6987 didn't mamamax cover that in the video tho, either himself or by one of the creators he brought on to talk about censorship on youtube for the video? I feel like I distinctly remember it being one of the examples brought up alongside both commentary channels and investigative channels. He knows its not all pedophile stuff, but it is a consistent one youtube will fuck people up for covering, I think the tactic he was hoping for was to put an issue most people will feel passionate about to create traction and outrage in order to boost the video discussing the issues. Its a little difficult to get a viral hashtag that is both memorable enough and outrageous enough that also completely covers the delicate nuances and layers of problems that you are hoping to cover. Not trying to be combative in case I wake up to a paragraph raging and telling me to quit game irl (which is far too common on this hellsite) just trying to offer another perspective on the issue. Obviously there's better ways probably to do this however youtube can be notoriously hard to force to listen at the best of times so 🤷♀️
@@crypticlish6717 I mean I could be too hard on MM, but at no point did he personally bring up anything other than pedo hunting content being censored, but quite a few of the creators he brought on did. I would enjoy his content, but he's so unbelievably edgy he makes very serious issues very hard to take seriously. Especially now that he's decided to portray himself and his fans as Hotline Miami characters of all things, which makes me think he missed the point of those games, but that's another conversation. By choosing to portray himself this way in his videos he's made himself easier for UA-cam to ignore. It'd be the same if Alex Jones was behind this cause. By acting this way he's made a righteous cause look ridiculous.
I'm confused that he's so surprised with the shit happening on twitter. The exact same stuff happens on twitter every day. When someone disagrees (or in this case doesnt fully agree) , they look for the first way to put them on the chopping block.
The difference between the media and creators like Charlie is that Charlie doesn’t have an agenda to push. The media focuses on their agendas and use the news and try to push it. Charlie is here to deliver the news and and nothing else.
I always bring this up whenever this subject is broached because, quite frankly, more people need to know about it: Currently there have been no major studies in the medical or scientific communities into pedophilia. On the surface this may not come as a surprise to you at all. I mean, who would _want_ to study something so monstrous? Plus, what's there to understand about it, these people are monsters, so lock them up and throw away the key. Except for the small fact that a lot of pedophiles are are individuals who were themselves sexually abused when they were children. Now obviously this doesn't excuse their behavior at all; but at the same time if there is a causal link between these things surely it should be looked into so that such behavior in victims of childhood sexual abuse can be caught early on and dealt with before it becomes an issue. In all honesty, when you think about how detrimental it is to have such people living among the populace, it really is quite baffling as to why modern medicine hasn't put any resources into studying this subject, because it needs to be addressed. And no simply executing all pedophiles is not a viable solution, because all you would be doing then is incentivizing child predators to permanently silence their victims. After all, if the penalty for sexually abusing a child is exactly the same for murdering a child, then what exactly would they have to lose by making sure that said child never has the chance to report them? And even if they did end up getting caught, it's not like they can get executed twice. No, we as a society need to approach this subject seriously for a scientific and medical standpoint, otherwise children are just gonna keep getting victimized by these monsters and then turn into monsters themselves when they grow up.
@@AtariDad bro, there is no scientific or medical approach to pedophilia. It's not a mental illness, peodos are criminals, that can't be fixed by research.
ive been following mamamax for a long time, for a while before his "vigilante" content I guess, and it always baffled me how little attention he got. He brought up some truly disturbing and sickening issues, evidence of each which he granted to the authorities, hour long videos with links and interviews and proof of terrible things on youtube like pedophilia and animal abuse for years now. I only hope now that he's getting some desperately needed attention, even in an unconventional way, youtube will make a change.
oh god i hate the goddamn animal abusers especially the ones that fake being animal rescue channels when they are the ones who put the animals in the dangerous situation.
@Obscure Wondering he did give incriminating evidence to actual authorities. but this is his livelyhood, he can't keep helping the world if UA-cam keeps inadvertently protecting pedophiles. at some point he'll just have to get a regular job and nobody will care, because nobody will know what is going on in the seedy underbelly. we NEED to shine a light, not just for the immediate gain of people in prisons, but so that the community of pedo hunting can grow and more people will be able to take up arms and work together against the scurge. this is NOT just about MamaMax.
@Obscure Wondering 2. no, i specifically said "inadvertently" because their actions intended effects was not to protect pedos, otherwise it wouldn't be "inadvertent" but the side effect is still very real, and they ARE protecting pedos, just not purposefully, because they have yet to "pick a side", it's their inaction to the side-effects of their actions that's the issue. 3. completely agree, unregulated rule of the mob is extremely dangerous, but what's your solution? because i think silencing and censorship is not it. i certainly don't have a solution.
Charlie won't fall when this whole thing blows up, it's gonna be MamaMax and maybe Nexpo. Everyone else in the video had no idea what this whole video was gonna be about and anyone who follows after and kinda strong armed into it
@@mr.freezypk9954 yeah that's kind of the impression I got to. Based on what happened at the very end of the video I kind of felt like the contributors to the video were strong-armed into it. That's not an impression that should be left upon me upon finishing that video. Whether it's true or not, giving that impression to somebody does not help your cause
Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion.He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up, Just as the founding fathers intended
@Louiebruh2 People are willingly to milk the last drops of attention for that sweet sweet dopamine, but nobody is paying attention anymore. What now mr Louiebruh2
Aside from the memes, you're an incredibly articulate and well-spoken individual. I'm very happy that you've brought up this situation, this is probably the best video describing it. Let's hope 2022 is a bit better for UA-cam.
The way you deal issues is so logical and calm, it's so refreshing. When you picked out the way that little things like the backlash over disagreeing with the hashtag gets in the way of progress in solving the problem, I was so happy to see someone acknowledging that kind of stuff, thinking about it, instead of just getting swept away with the emotional storm that is the internet. Because that really is a huge problem; people who are on the same side end up fighting each other and then what the actual problem is and what needs to be done about it gets lost in the petty "moral" war. Thank you for being a level-headed voice in a world like this one. We need more people like you.
Charlie has the most controversial opinions, pedophilia is bad? I mean seriously, he is saying things that have never even been thought of. Truly a game changer, keep it up Charlie.
Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion.He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up, Just as the founding fathers intended
I LIKE YOU DATE-YOUNGGIRLS.ONLINE Gaze: "Amazed" Lips: "Sensual" Smile: "Sweeter" Body: "Colder" The first and last love Lots of love from the world I like your look You are very pretty You guys are too cute Makes me love you. Жизнь, как красивая мелодия, только песни перепутались. Köz karaş: ''Taŋ kaldım'' Erinder: ''Sezimdüü'' Jılmayuu: ''Tattuuraak'' Dene: ''Muzdak'' Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis. Aç köz arstan Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon. #Чо #эт #делает #на #2 #месте #в #тренде Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu gana taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. ''Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt'' dep oylodu arstan. Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. #однако #я #люблю #таких #рыбаков #垃圾
This is not about pedophilia directly, it's about UA-cam trying to make it's platform seem as squeaky clean perfect-worldish AD FRIENDLY as possible. That's what is always about, money
Shit as much as id like it to be more open to videos that are not only ad friendly god knows what fucked up shit wouldve been posted on here from gore to sum even worse
well imagine someone posted a video saying you were a peado? UA-cam cant screen everything and can only do so after a video is uploaded. Not to mention peoples/society's causes change so often that something that is ok one year wont be the next.
charlie’s such a good dude. the fact that he has common sense helps, but he always uses logic and finds good ways to solve problems no matter how stupid they are, and makes sure to speak for what he believes in. im happy we have him here to be like some kind of peacekeeper or news reporter on youtube. this is truly a sacred channel.
Where is the joke Been muted/shadowbanned a handful of times just for acknowledging there's a problem. There's a reason normal people use the term "MAP" because that's an Algorithm approved term to refer to these.
I just had my video talking about the history of jackass taken down. I showed nothing graphic and deliberately avoided anything bad, muted all swearing etc. The whole video is utilising footage that is currently on UA-cam right now. They took it down for dangerous content. My suspicion is because at the end of the video I talked about UA-cams over bearing censorship is very similar to the issues jackass faced with censorship from cable tv.
A much better way of explaining the situation, rather than 90% of the commentary community. You explained why the tweet was weird, and why the movement is important, perfectly. Thank you
im so glad charlie uses his voice on youtube to make sure people actually hear about these issues too, otherwise so many, including me wouldnt even know some of this stuff was happening.
UA-cam: "Voice for everyone." Also youtube: "Silent every voice that expose horrible people." *edit: I changed the word "everyome" to "everyone" since people started a war for this small typo.
@Bender Bending Rodriguez You're spamming this comment a _lot,_ my guy. Parts of the internet have trends, but it ain't a monolith. And when you word everything (like you did in the other comments) so aggressively, you predispose readers into disagreeing.
I respect the hell out of you Charlie. You’re not only helping support this cause, but also critiquing the parts of it that are shitty and counter-productive. Thank you.
They say that if you love and support something, you critique it even harder because you wante it to be good Now if only people on the Internet could get that through their thick skulls
The newest drama caused by MamaMax goes to show Charlie’s in the right. He wants to claim the moral high ground while directly starting the exact drama that he claims to hate.
ironically mamamax got a huge boost to his videos during this situation so he wanted to do it again but this time people didnt care so he started harrasing them lmao
I don't defend Mamamax for his antics, his style of doing things is not at all what's right for this situation. BUT, his intention was to clearly high the stakes and cause the shitstorm that will devide everyone. Because let's be frank, UA-cam deserves to receive the sledgehammer on their heads and make either a fresh new start, or be completely swallowed up by a new and more capable successor company.
@@deltaflash7889 this exactly. u can make 1million videos that is built around this, but if you dont have one that seemingly enforce some sort of "mob mentality", then its not hyped up enough to be an issue that needs to be addressed and they get downplayed and drowned overtime. i mean before this gets trended, i'm sure lots of people are in the "dark" of it. not glorifying that its the right course of action, but it did what it did well, to bring up an issue, albeit not in the best manner. its weird sometimes the most effective solution is one that isn't sound, or rational or most effective by its own means. just goes to show how fked up the world is. i believe people are good, but just been placed in bad situations. at least i hoped they are...
Censorship is one of the worse things in our society right now. Information is valuable and when people can't see what's really going on it is harmful. 100% agree with you.
Even though Charlie is completely correct with his take of #pickasideyoutube, opposing Max's message at the end, I noticed that channels are kind of now shitting on Max and making him out to be a cringy asshole for this trend he created, when it was just a mistake for his hashtag that was not executed in the right way. Charlie and Max are some of my favorites when it comes to UA-camrs, and Charlie is the perfect middle ground for the situation. I hope Mama Max acknowledges this all in a UA-cam video to clear up the stigma surrounding his misguided hashtag.
The issue of dark content getting taken down is so serious, information is one of the most powerful things we have. Taking down videos exposing bad actors to warn potential victims and reduce bad peoples influence is short sighted and horrible. History content is one of the best ways to both learn about and understand the lessons of history in a fun way but mentioning the dark parts that need to be talked about results in strikes. Independent creators have made incredible horror and arg content on this platform only to have their vision and creativity nerfed. Channels that talk about and try to help/inform people about abuse go from safe spaces to overly censored and half as effective. When things are catered to the advertisers everybody loses, the creators, the viewers, and UA-cam’s wide variety of content to draw people in.
it was litterally over a black dudes naked butt bro, did no one actually watch maxs vid?? obv p3dos aint good but bruh come tf on, you cant just be showing man booty and expecting those weak-stomached nerds at yt to handle it.
I didnt clap because its pedophillia is bad is the only opinion. its not something impressive and snyone who disagrees is a sick creep who deserves to be bashed tf out of
Keeping any group people in an ignorance bubble doesn't protect them when it pops. Only education and acknowledging the problem does. You can't hope to cover the sun with a finger and then expect not to get sunburn; it isn't that hard but simple concepts seem to be so hard to grasp for a lot of people. It's not even rocket science. If you hide bad things happening they will continue to happen. Thanks for keeping level headed and objective about the issue, we need more people like you man.
UA-cam doesn't care what a video is about, they just care whether advertisers like it, and advertisers happen to not like videos with dark topics. It's really that simple, and it sucks.
I felt the pain on Charlie's face when he was talking about people thinking he defends pedophiles after listening to 250+ hours of Kaya and the boys insulting pedophiles on the Official podcast
I actually think the "pick a side" strategy is brilliant. It has generated a lot of attention and is simple to digest. I clicked on this video which was also titled "pick a side YT" purely because of the title. I am now aware of a problem that I didn't know existed.
Yea but it is misleading and may make people think that it is another Matt (if you remember him), he did the same thing a couple of years ago and turned out to be a creep drama hungry plant by companies that wanted an apocalypse.
Attacking UA-cam and acting like it sides with pedophiles (which they obviously don't) won't fix the problem, it might just start another apocalypse and make censorship even worse.
Yeah, it’s a bad strategy for actually conveying the point, but it’s brilliant one for gaining traction. The best way to have your voice heard these days is unfortunately outrage content, and “youtube pick between pedos and kids” is far more likely to get that outrage and attention than “youtube censorship is harmful and creates more victims.” Best move to get the actual nuanced point across? No. But best move for getting everyone to direct their attention towards that point? Absolutely.
Seriously though. Charlie always sticks to his guns. He's good about speaking his mind and always thinking things out for himself. Like, he still agrees with the dude for the most part but he'll tell him exactly where he's being a dumbass.
I agree Charlie. Calling out the bad actors= positive outcome, but calling out other UA-camrs near confrontational as though they are supportive of the bad actors= negative outcome. IE, bad approach!
Here is how things should be. 1. Pedos and Animal Abuse should be removed in seconds 2. Censorship for independent journalism should be removed for the most part That is all
I definitely agree for the most part. However, there’s some things that masquerade as “independent journalism” that is really just misinformation, and sometimes that misinfo can actually lead to lives being destroyed, whether through harassment campaigns or being harmed directly through that misinfo. Obviously we need to be careful, but I think there is a line that should be drawn somewhere.
I think the problem with the hashtag is that it's Twitter You can't have nuanced issues on Twitter That's why people are dogpiling on those who criticize the approach
As a survivor of CSA. This means so much. To see people standing even when the backlash has been heavy. Respect you and your platform. MamaMax has been the reason I found what I can do personally in my own life. What he has done and continues to do is nothing short of amazing. I appreciate his hard work and his heart.
@@rejuch5136 The Confederate States of America, of course. This person has survived the war and lived 200 years to be here and tell us about it. (I didn't know it stood for something else either, don't worry. I have no idea why they keep using the worst acronyms for twitter hashtags).
0:14 upon hearing this I immediately blurted out "THANK YOU." And you even added clarity to your "hot take" that really shouldn't be a hot take at all. You're the hero we need Charlie
This man is speaking facts against a terrible situation, I don't know why people are hating on him. Keep it up Charlie. Edit: Shout out to the people who found my private discord, yes Penguin, I mean you ;)
I didn’t actually think about it that way, but I’ve been looking at it from the perspective of knowing what is going on and not an outsider’s view. BUT good ol’ Charlie just clarified what everything was so people who have no idea what’s going on can look into things and that hashtag will hopefully not cause as much division as could have had he not addressed or for more people to see.
The real issue is how UA-cam just handles every issue that its creators has in a singleton way when there are clear systemic problems, and never address the root issues, preferring to sweep things under the rug. I think the first instinct of the site would be, when a shitstorm happens, "Okay, our solution is to bring MamaMax's video back. We'll keep letting other investigative videos get struck though." And it's proven effective because people just seem to forgive and forget when individual creators are restituted, while those who don't have a Twitter following have no recourse. UA-cam sticks their head in the sand and tries to pretend there's no problems if the problems are tricky to address. A big movement that doesn't back down unless something internally changes for the better is needed. Because I suspect that even if it's not at the top, there's still people within UA-cam that have conflicts of interest that cause them to unfairly strike down content or keep it struck down on manual review. Or very poor/inconsistent rules given to their manual review teams. The algorithm has its own issues, but I don't see how that could be fixed short of removing the automation which would pretty much break UA-cam entirely, given how reliant it is on automation. However, calling unrelated individuals out seems like a bad move. My biggest complaint was that he clearly brought up a personal beef with Corpse -- whoever the hell that even is, I'm unfamiliar with their content -- and clearly and publically tried to do moral ransom. It was a clear attempt to force his hand using rather underhanded public shaming for a completely unrelated and personal issue. He did not need to go into details of how he was personally wronged. That, if you ask me, was the one point where he really crossed the line. One really has to be careful, either way, when they bring out any sort of 'with us or against us' mentality, because it's an extremely slippery slope. But worse is that I'm concerned that dropping a bomb like this won't even guarantee the core issue be addressed. That is, UA-cam sticking their heads in the sand when they make decisions everyone hates, and not listening to criticism. Because, yes -- people ARE sick of how UA-cam practices the definition of insanity.
It's probably because most of the site is run by bots, because you'd have to hire so many people o effectively moderate the platform. Bots are very hard to get right due to how they work algorithmically which isn't like humans who go based on rules and emotions.
@@illford6921 Plus, I remember a thing one of my relatives said during a conversation. Take what I say with grains of salt, as I do not want to give a source. This was from a family member. But they stated that some of the people who had manually moderated such content got exposed to some very traumatizing things and got depressed as a result, even committing suicide in some cases. It may also be morality on their side but personally it makes sense that they want bots. The more you get people to review such content you may get quality of such moderation to decrease, because if you get repeatedly exposed you may lose sensitivity. Of course, I also think the last point I made isn't a very good argument against it. It's a mixture of both ethics and mechanics, as they are unleashing these systems on those trying to warn others about such content. I feel there should be a system of both flesh and metal because of this. Have bots be the first line of defense, use them as a general sweep. Have them split into different "Task Forces", if you will. Some for illegal activity, some for promoting such, and generally hateful content. Next, have more thorough searches be made. Explicit things will be called out automatically. Use filters to see if such content is hidden in the video, stuff like that. Of course, next thing is to send more ambiguous stuff to humans. They can decide from there, and be the overall moderation. This is not a perfect system. Some humans are going to potentially be bad actors, and a company can go SCP-5000 at any point, causing such systems to fall far from grace. However, it is one of the best *theoretical* and possible systems I can think of immediately, without considering circumstances. If AI do eventually gain emotional intelligence, I can't wait to see the therapy bills for the country skyrocket.
That problem is even bigger than calling people out, there are also educational videos that are being taken down for covering controversial subjects such as videos that go in depth about North Korea
@Sorbet Kid careful there. Remember the old runescape guy that broke down after constant harassment from keems fans because keem falsely accused him of being a pea dough? People get shit wrong all the time and the wrong people could be “exposed” or worse in the process. The end goal of this isn’t to have the ability to witch hunt. It’s to bring more exposure to serious topics and fucked up actions from people on the platform without fear of censorship. With enough exposure, the truth is bound to come out and we may be able to save kids lives like the daddyofive kids who were being abused for views. Balancing people’s right to privacy (funny, expecting that from google) and allowing content creators to talk about serious and many times illegal activity is tough but we’ve had too many elsagates, animal rescues, peluchin entertainments, and edps on this platform for yt to continue to turn a blind eye.
@@sorimasn When there is a crystal clear evidence that can't be fabricated but legal law forces still refuse to take actions or they do it way too slowly or they even regect the whole case... only mob justice can do the right thing. Mistakes will always happen here and there, the difference is: judges don't scare off these predos but furious mob terrifies them.
@@realswobby exactly, these people never get legal consequences. @alex Martinez is right, but if its proven with evidence beyond shadow of a doubt, I'm pro witch hunt. Like you said, they're much more afraid of what other people do to pedos than what the law does to pedos. Even in jail they're not safe
I wish more players and people where like you instead of only thinking about themselves or protecting their own accounts when they see that bad things are going on!!! It seems like it's a rare thing these days amongst content creators & gamers. Keep it up brother!!! Bows
I think it depends on who you follow really. But it's just too easy to find toxic people, that's the problem. I use twitter sometimes, and there's so much negativity there, it's really sad.
I love when Charlie’s so irritated he turns to toddler insults like ‘stinky-yucky’ Honestly tho this is gross and has been a problem for a while, UA-cam don’t seem to give a shit about their creators or their audiences, just their shareholders
I’m glad you’re speaking about this, UA-cam doesn’t need to remove the dislike button it needs better moderators and have their workers actually watching the videos rather then bots, these videos get taken down while porn gets passed by
For anyone who doesn't have much time, here's a summary : Cr1tikal stands behind Mama Max's message of UA-cam being unfair to content creators who investigate/create content on darker subject matters, however he doesn't agree with Mama Max's method of making it a "pick a side" type thing, in Charlie's opinion this create in-fighting and oversimplifies Mama Max's message.
but the problem is that its justice system job, everybody is innocent until proven guilty... and that is the job for police... its bad enough with antivax morons spreding misinformation... what if someone tried to spread information that you are pedophile... even if you are convicted, youtube rather block every content that contains this just to make sure it doesnt spread lies
We’ve existed in our current state for hundreds of thousands of years and we’re still fighting over, “Is removing important information bad?” Or, “is pedophillia bad?”
Thank you for bringing light to this subject A lot of content gets taken down for being to mature for kids but they have a whole different platform for kids with UA-cam Kids. Also UA-cam censor a lot of things and if I am honest I am sick of it because I personally consume a lot of dark and mature content and I am tired of videos being taken down for no reason
I always wonder what people who don’t know the proper “there’s” for the right situations even think. Like do they just use them interchangeably not questioning it
Asking for help from someone by accusing them of disgusting things is not a way to start a conversation. Charlie is right on this one. You wouldn't help someone either if the starting point was them calling you a pedophile if you don't do what they say.
Exactly, especially nowdays where people are fueled with emotion. Pointing fingers and making claims towards who youd like to be your allies is bound to backfire on you quickly
I see that and I get where Charlie is coming from, but like- UA-cam is pretty much covering up and "protecting" (whether they mean to or not) pedophiles from getting justice or acknowledgement for their wrongdoings. They rather have money and a "clean" UA-cam for ad revenue than address predators on their own site and fix it- I can see why Charlie doesn't care for this black and white outlook here, but I think Max is so fed up at this point and has gone through so much that to him this is essentially what they're doing. I think Charlie is definitely right that this is not the productive way to handle things, but I can't necessarily blame Max for being so frustrated when he is just trying to tell the truth. I also think that this is more of a shock factor thing, these are very serious allegations but unfortunately unless something like this happens it's going to be completely ignored by Susan and UA-cam. In short this is a risky move but I see this ultimately as a final act of desperation if anything-
@@BloodInTheStrawberries Hurting someone else when you've been hurt first does not give you the moral high ground. If he's fed up, he should take a step back and think about what he can do to fix this issue. There is ALWAYS another option. It's good to understand someone's bad behavior, but that never justifies it. As I always say, "That explains it, but that doesn't excuse it." If you let desperation fuel your reasoning, you'll eventually falter and be forgotten. Every hashtag or argument on Twitter is eventually forgotten. People changed their icons to a black circle and never spoke about it, drifting further and further away from the movement. People hashtag yet another unjust murder and forget about it a week later. These people are not dedicated because they don't have anything to back up their reasoning. To them, being angry is enough to justify a shitty Tweet. To them, being desperate is enough to justify not doing anything else to make change in the world. Life is more than a goddamn hashtag.
@@nomoretwitterhandles in the second half of olive oils reply I believe he is saying that what max is doing isn't right but in a way it has a reasoning behind it that can be understood. Which to some extent I agree with, Max is trying to fix a very bad problem but the way he is going about is not only counterproductive but also morally wrong. But I can understand the reasoning behind it and see it from his point of view.
It isn’t even sad that people have to even debate this topic anymore it’s actually down right frightening at this point how can people choose to defend such disgusting behavior Edit:I just want to clarify that no I’m not going after critikal no he’s not in support of MAPs in any way shape or form i wrote that comment early on in the video and just commented because it makes me frustrated with humanity that this is where we stand at things that there are people like this who receive protection for the terrible things they do again critikal isn’t a shill for UA-cam he isn’t supporting MAPs and he isn’t against the content creator who started this he’s just pointing out how the hashtag is problematic
they are not defending it, i mean intentionally they just want to keep the site add friendly regardless of the consequences and this is the ending result, but as long as cash keeps flowing they dont care.
History use to go to extremes, last century it was i mortal crime to be gay, now its okay, but it always go to an extreme as "people" says pedophilia is lgbt
The Results are directly in line with defending, whatever their intentions are. People are giving them a chance to see if they will change due to brand image. But sometimes its a clear direct defense, like Twitter allowing CP because it "isn't against TOS" even though its illegal and horrible brand wise.
@@bernardocarvalho5004 Literally no one is saying that MAPs are valid in the LGBT community outside of MAPs who are elbowing their way in the crowd so they wouldn’t get called out.
The worst ones are the chucklefucks like Louiebruh who spam the horrible shit about Seáns father or Marks niece... Just degenerate behaviour altogether.
the whole point is to get youtube attention, “censorship is bad” has been said for years and youtube ignores it. they don’t want their name attached to “pedophile” again. that’s more likely to get the attention max wants and needs.
@@devanfalcon2043 a few years ago a guy named Matt Watson unintentionally started the ad-pocalypse by exposing the pedo content and the tons of pedos in the youtube comment section
If these people weren't trying to protect certain groups and silence certain issues we wouldn't still be having this discussion years later Everyone needs to get on the same page and accept that the argument Max is making is THE correct one here.
It's kind of the problem with many snappy slogans for movements and whatever. Especially if they aren't thought out. Often they divide people who would otherwise be working together.
The irony is that whenever a site becomes “child friendly” more predators come flocking to it because they know children are allowed there.
Finally!!!
ua-cam.com/video/F0OjZfv7ZfA/v-deo.html
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@@fax6821 Your a bot, "fax"
Thanks for the likes, made my day
@@Alex-dt3yw not a bot, take a shot, i should use a full stop...
@@fax6821 bot.
Oh hey I've never had this many liked before.
^
I think removing dislikes is probably the worst thing that this platform has ever implemented, if you ask me, I think there should be more competition in the space to challenge UA-cam on these stupid decisions.
@Jack Wrath is this really how you want to grow your channel? This is all you will be remembered for
@Jack Wrath
Jail is just a room.
Death is just permanent sleep.
@@047z don’t bother replying to bots, they probably won’t see it. Report it instead so they get taken down
good luck competing against google
Them removing dislikes kinda shows their stance. They only did it because youtuber (pedo) apology videos where getting hella disliked bombed and aparwntly that was a problem
These videos hit different after mamamax got exposed as a fraud.
Wait hes a pedo?
@@McGringus173not sure but I’ve heard that he fakes his videos
@@Deathmare235yeah it turns out all his videos are pretty much fake, the Aum Shinrikyo/Hikari no Wa video is a perfect example. If you just do the most basic research it’s pretty clear that it’s bs, or at least very overblown, he makes a big show of acting like he’s risking his life by covering this topic, even though AM has been defunct for well over a decade and HnW’s members are still under strict government surveillance in Japan.
@@Acidlib he had good intentions but let his ego get the best of him and acted as if he was batman or some shit with brainrot editing and voice filter
@@soyradom4537 Not to mention he also turned his important work into entertainment that faked a lot of the scenarios that were going on. Very weird of him to do when he could have easily just busted these guys like Chris Hansen or Skeeter Jean does.
I genuinely miss the original days of UA-cam. Dislikes were public, content was raw, ads were unthinkable. Things have changed so drastically and its not all in a good way.
Same.
They need to make that 💸
Pffft the great days of UA-cam was when we had an actual comment thread and star rating instead
oh the good old days. #MySpacevsFacebook
Agreed. I miss old UA-cam. UA-cam always changes for the worst unfortunately and has done for over 10 years now. I joined in 2008 and you could say ANYTHING and EVERYTHING with no community guidelines or real consequences for ages.
People were aloud a voice no matter what you said. People shouldn't be allowed to have their opinion forced shut like YT do nowadays .
Charlie: "pedophilia is bad"
UA-cam: "HE SAID PEDOPHILIA ASFDSDFSSFDSAASSA"
Ngl this is most likely going to be the case with this video, they have tons of bots that strike videos with any mention of key words. Ducking stupid and I don’t see how that helps at all.
@@Fleetstreetbestone autocorrect lol
But also you’re right, UA-cam bots are dumb and just focus on “oh this person said shit” without even knowing or caring about anything else
@@JoeyEX don't worry
he just said "PaydOFile"
I LIKE YOU DATE-YOUNGGIRLS.ONLINE
Gaze: "Amazed"
Lips: "Sensual"
Smile: "Sweeter"
Body: "Colder"
The first and last love
Lots of love from the world
I like your look
You are very pretty
You guys are too cute
Makes me love you.
Жизнь, как красивая мелодия, только песни перепутались.
Köz karaş: ''Taŋ kaldım''
Erinder: ''Sezimdüü''
Jılmayuu: ''Tattuuraak''
Dene: ''Muzdak''
Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
Aç köz arstan
Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
#Чо #эт #делает #на #2 #месте #в #тренде
Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu gana taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. ''Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt'' dep oylodu arstan.
Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu.
#однако #я #люблю #таких #рыбаков #垃圾
Exactly, they are so pathetic. Its pretty obvious who the main predators are
UA-cam literally:
-Removed the ability for people to dislike a video
-Implemented a policy that allows them to censor content
-Let corporate entities like TV Shows and Brands dictate what content is suitable and which isnt
If you told me it was like this in 2012-13 I wouldve laughed lmao. This platform has turned into a digital version of cable TV
It’s true. And that’s the saddest part..
Everything is about business anymore. A lot of things start off with the people they serve in mind but always go to the money and corporate interests, like video game companies... It used to be about the players but now it's about the bottom line and profit
Early YT will always be the best
@Pancakes2001 and what is your life? Replying to comments on UA-cam? How productive
@Pancakes2001 why are you mad lol
Charlie is the Moses of UA-cam.
He's metaphorically parting the brown sea of shit that is UA-cam in order and clarify an adult voice on major issues.
In all honesty, he's one of the last people left that have a chance of keeping this platform afloat
kinda looks like him too
But does he use his newfound powers to murder people who helped him survive before he got to UA-cam?
SOG as well
Yeah, he's amazing at coming up with articulate things to say on the fly, although I know what he says is mostly scripted.
Ya mean the jesus?
UA-cam is genuinely the embodiment of “There is no war in Ba Sing Se”, it’s disgusting
More accurately it's like saying nothing happened on tianmen square
The UA-cam team really has the “if I can’t see it, it isn’t a problem” mentality
not even, they can see it. its more “if i dont feel like fixing it , it doesnt exist” noo cap
The reason people are hating on Charlie is because we've already done it his way. Charlie pointed it out himself. He sat Susan down, asked her tough questions, and she lied through her teeth. Do you know why?
Because the general population didn't see it. This gets the general population to see it. And in a world where UA-cam support doesn't do anything until you get enough likes on your tweet, it's painfully obvious that Charlie is bashing on the only thing that will actually change anything.
@@dahat1992 he's not "bashing" the tweet, he is saying that the tweet is a misconstruction of the actual issue, which is UA-cam censoring creators and videos that talk about disturbing topics and events. That's a pretty fair and correct criticism.
@@dahat1992 12:20 start from there and listen to the rest of the video, he agrees that a Twitter trend is a good course of action. that doesn't sound like "bashing" to me, it seems like he just didn't think that the used hashtag was a good one, or that there were better ones that could've been used instead.
fuckin true
Let’s not forget the historical channels too they get it absolutely raw. The Great War channel has had a huge portion of their WW1 videos demonetized. Their sister channel, which goes over WW2, had all their videos demonetized almost immediately.
That's one of my problems with Mama Max only focusing on pedo hunting content. It's brain dead to suggest that UA-cam is protecting pedos because it's run by them, when the reality is UA-cam has been run by apathetic cowardly corporate types for several years now.
@@ivansmirnoff6987 didn't mamamax cover that in the video tho, either himself or by one of the creators he brought on to talk about censorship on youtube for the video? I feel like I distinctly remember it being one of the examples brought up alongside both commentary channels and investigative channels.
He knows its not all pedophile stuff, but it is a consistent one youtube will fuck people up for covering, I think the tactic he was hoping for was to put an issue most people will feel passionate about to create traction and outrage in order to boost the video discussing the issues. Its a little difficult to get a viral hashtag that is both memorable enough and outrageous enough that also completely covers the delicate nuances and layers of problems that you are hoping to cover.
Not trying to be combative in case I wake up to a paragraph raging and telling me to quit game irl (which is far too common on this hellsite) just trying to offer another perspective on the issue. Obviously there's better ways probably to do this however youtube can be notoriously hard to force to listen at the best of times so 🤷♀️
@@crypticlish6717 I mean I could be too hard on MM, but at no point did he personally bring up anything other than pedo hunting content being censored, but quite a few of the creators he brought on did. I would enjoy his content, but he's so unbelievably edgy he makes very serious issues very hard to take seriously. Especially now that he's decided to portray himself and his fans as Hotline Miami characters of all things, which makes me think he missed the point of those games, but that's another conversation. By choosing to portray himself this way in his videos he's made himself easier for UA-cam to ignore. It'd be the same if Alex Jones was behind this cause. By acting this way he's made a righteous cause look ridiculous.
War bad amirite
it's funny how now the history youtuber replace the nazi flag with youtube's logo
This situation aged like milk
Shit hits different in 2024
Charlie: "Pedophilia is bad"
YT algorithm: "Did he say bad or fad ? Might as well strike his channel just to be safe."
Well, some of our advertisers might have pedophile CEOs and we don’t want to offend our advertisers. Better strike his channel
"Pedophilia is not good"
"Did he say pedophilia and good in the same sentence !?"
Did he just say bad or fuckface? DEMONITIZE!!!
Pedophilia is RAD 😜🤠👌
@@CibuYT that is not on my list of top 5 jokes
"I'm gonna say what other people are afraid to say.....
Pedophilia is bad."
-Charlie, 2021
I'm glad you were able to hear the joke
yeah thanks we saw the video too
I don't believe you unless you can quote something obvious from the video
Tedtalk level speech right there
Why are people so pressed that he quoted it?? No sense of humor lmao
I admire Charlie’s ability to handle controversy so well
This aged like milk, and I regret ever supporting MamaMax.
If I knew he was a fraud; I'd never have supported him.
I always found it hard to take him seriously with how much of an edgelord he was about serious topics and was confused why people loved him so much.
Even before this whole thing about him came I I knew there was something wrong with him his videos were cringe even before all this stuff came out
@@plugshirt1762this, I can’t see how he was ever taken seriously by anyone it felt staged or exaggerated from the get.
@@plugshirt1762I never heard of him until now but if I did back then this would’ve been my take too I’m sure, it’s super cringey
I feel like I'm missing some necessary context
Wish there were more people in the media as level-headed as Charlie, he puts emotion into his responses without losing track of the real issue.
I'm confused that he's so surprised with the shit happening on twitter. The exact same stuff happens on twitter every day. When someone disagrees (or in this case doesnt fully agree) , they look for the first way to put them on the chopping block.
The difference between the media and creators like Charlie is that Charlie doesn’t have an agenda to push. The media focuses on their agendas and use the news and try to push it. Charlie is here to deliver the news and and nothing else.
Charlie for president?
I always bring this up whenever this subject is broached because, quite frankly, more people need to know about it:
Currently there have been no major studies in the medical or scientific communities into pedophilia. On the surface this may not come as a surprise to you at all. I mean, who would _want_ to study something so monstrous? Plus, what's there to understand about it, these people are monsters, so lock them up and throw away the key. Except for the small fact that a lot of pedophiles are are individuals who were themselves sexually abused when they were children. Now obviously this doesn't excuse their behavior at all; but at the same time if there is a causal link between these things surely it should be looked into so that such behavior in victims of childhood sexual abuse can be caught early on and dealt with before it becomes an issue. In all honesty, when you think about how detrimental it is to have such people living among the populace, it really is quite baffling as to why modern medicine hasn't put any resources into studying this subject, because it needs to be addressed.
And no simply executing all pedophiles is not a viable solution, because all you would be doing then is incentivizing child predators to permanently silence their victims. After all, if the penalty for sexually abusing a child is exactly the same for murdering a child, then what exactly would they have to lose by making sure that said child never has the chance to report them? And even if they did end up getting caught, it's not like they can get executed twice.
No, we as a society need to approach this subject seriously for a scientific and medical standpoint, otherwise children are just gonna keep getting victimized by these monsters and then turn into monsters themselves when they grow up.
@@AtariDad bro, there is no scientific or medical approach to pedophilia. It's not a mental illness, peodos are criminals, that can't be fixed by research.
Thanks for not only passing on the message, but adding clarity to it.
Yes. Very good work.
you people above me are discusting
Ey I know you
0 fucks given by Team UA-cam
@@hello-qn8xy i am currently vomiting my guts out
ive been following mamamax for a long time, for a while before his "vigilante" content I guess, and it always baffled me how little attention he got. He brought up some truly disturbing and sickening issues, evidence of each which he granted to the authorities, hour long videos with links and interviews and proof of terrible things on youtube like pedophilia and animal abuse for years now. I only hope now that he's getting some desperately needed attention, even in an unconventional way, youtube will make a change.
cool
oh god i hate the goddamn animal abusers especially the ones that fake being animal rescue channels when they are the ones who put the animals in the dangerous situation.
@Obscure Wondering he did give incriminating evidence to actual authorities. but this is his livelyhood, he can't keep helping the world if UA-cam keeps inadvertently protecting pedophiles. at some point he'll just have to get a regular job and nobody will care, because nobody will know what is going on in the seedy underbelly. we NEED to shine a light, not just for the immediate gain of people in prisons, but so that the community of pedo hunting can grow and more people will be able to take up arms and work together against the scurge. this is NOT just about MamaMax.
@Obscure Wondering 2. no, i specifically said "inadvertently" because their actions intended effects was not to protect pedos, otherwise it wouldn't be "inadvertent"
but the side effect is still very real, and they ARE protecting pedos, just not purposefully, because they have yet to "pick a side", it's their inaction to the side-effects of their actions that's the issue.
3. completely agree, unregulated rule of the mob is extremely dangerous, but what's your solution? because i think silencing and censorship is not it. i certainly don't have a solution.
@@alexandermcadams3845 Nick crowley has made video on that.
He could LITERALLY cancel you charlie
this aged like milk
now mama max is being cancelled
@@llllIllIIl I was mocking max when I said this
Charlie will never be canceled because his solution is to calmly and adultly explain his actions, feelings, and reasons.
I hope this doesnt age
Charlie won't fall when this whole thing blows up, it's gonna be MamaMax and maybe Nexpo. Everyone else in the video had no idea what this whole video was gonna be about and anyone who follows after and kinda strong armed into it
*was
@@mr.freezypk9954 yeah that's kind of the impression I got to. Based on what happened at the very end of the video I kind of felt like the contributors to the video were strong-armed into it. That's not an impression that should be left upon me upon finishing that video. Whether it's true or not, giving that impression to somebody does not help your cause
why are you guys so obsessed with people being canceled like it's some sort of boogyman
Pedophilia is disgusting you are indeed a courageous hero
Honestly these bots are so annoying
@@ObiAlmighty frl
Based
Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion.He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up, Just as the founding fathers intended
@Louiebruh2 People are willingly to milk the last drops of attention for that sweet sweet dopamine, but nobody is paying attention anymore. What now mr Louiebruh2
Aside from the memes, you're an incredibly articulate and well-spoken individual. I'm very happy that you've brought up this situation, this is probably the best video describing it. Let's hope 2022 is a bit better for UA-cam.
The way you deal issues is so logical and calm, it's so refreshing. When you picked out the way that little things like the backlash over disagreeing with the hashtag gets in the way of progress in solving the problem, I was so happy to see someone acknowledging that kind of stuff, thinking about it, instead of just getting swept away with the emotional storm that is the internet. Because that really is a huge problem; people who are on the same side end up fighting each other and then what the actual problem is and what needs to be done about it gets lost in the petty "moral" war.
Thank you for being a level-headed voice in a world like this one. We need more people like you.
Charlie has the most controversial opinions, pedophilia is bad? I mean seriously, he is saying things that have never even been thought of. Truly a game changer, keep it up Charlie.
Its here
ua-cam.com/video/QuKEjYHZuLg/v-deo.html
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Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion.He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up, Just as the founding fathers intended
@@jgb_ dude bots are ruining YT comment sections
@Louiebruh2 imagine taking time out of your day just to write that. sicko
@@jammage honestly
Keep this thing at the top. All attention needs to be on this until something changes.
I LIKE YOU DATE-YOUNGGIRLS.ONLINE
Gaze: "Amazed"
Lips: "Sensual"
Smile: "Sweeter"
Body: "Colder"
The first and last love
Lots of love from the world
I like your look
You are very pretty
You guys are too cute
Makes me love you.
Жизнь, как красивая мелодия, только песни перепутались.
Köz karaş: ''Taŋ kaldım''
Erinder: ''Sezimdüü''
Jılmayuu: ''Tattuuraak''
Dene: ''Muzdak''
Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
Aç köz arstan
Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
#Чо #эт #делает #на #2 #месте #в #тренде
Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu gana taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. ''Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt'' dep oylodu arstan.
Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu.
#однако #я #люблю #таких #рыбаков #垃圾
@@shaquilla1662 nobody asked
What the hell
Make bee brick the biggest meme (watch the newest video)
Exactly.
“Pedophilia is bad.”
Charlie is officially based and red-pilled.
always has been
bro Charlie got da estrogen?????
Well...
This is not about pedophilia directly, it's about UA-cam trying to make it's platform seem as squeaky clean perfect-worldish AD FRIENDLY as possible. That's what is always about, money
@Joshua EdwinRoehl is that a Rickroll?
@@nightfallreviews1533 lol no its a garbage ass song
Yet they put double ads on non ad-friendly videos... I see some bs right there
Shit as much as id like it to be more open to videos that are not only ad friendly god knows what fucked up shit wouldve been posted on here from gore to sum even worse
well imagine someone posted a video saying you were a peado? UA-cam cant screen everything and can only do so after a video is uploaded. Not to mention peoples/society's causes change so often that something that is ok one year wont be the next.
charlie’s such a good dude. the fact that he has common sense helps, but he always uses logic and finds good ways to solve problems no matter how stupid they are, and makes sure to speak for what he believes in. im happy we have him here to be like some kind of peacekeeper or news reporter on youtube. this is truly a sacred channel.
Also he’s funny
@@SirFae indeed. we all love him
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ur a pe
rson
He’s is nothing against Jeff C, who schooled him.
@@powershare2566 jeff censored?
“Hey i dont think this is the right way to send the message lol”
“ *so you have chosen, death?* “
This didn't age well
Ignoring the whole joke of how brave you are for saying pedophilia is a bad thing, I am thankful that creators like you are speaking up about this.
Its here
ua-cam.com/video/QuKEjYHZuLg/v-deo.html
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.aa.
ua-cam.com/video/z_f5B90VUJ0/v-deo.html
NEW UPDATE
@Gamer Kid 💀💀💀
fr, glad a big face is bringing this to light
Where is the joke
Been muted/shadowbanned a handful of times just for acknowledging there's a problem. There's a reason normal people use the term "MAP" because that's an Algorithm approved term to refer to these.
I just had my video talking about the history of jackass taken down. I showed nothing graphic and deliberately avoided anything bad, muted all swearing etc.
The whole video is utilising footage that is currently on UA-cam right now. They took it down for dangerous content. My suspicion is because at the end of the video I talked about UA-cams over bearing censorship is very similar to the issues jackass faced with censorship from cable tv.
Stupid bots below me
@Jack Wrath ok troll
aw damn that video got taken down? i think its like you said, you criticized youtube so they got all pissy and dropped it off the face of the earth
a video on the history of jackass?, i'd watch that in an instant if it wasn't taken down
Finally!!!
ua-cam.com/video/F0OjZfv7ZfA/v-deo.html ...
A much better way of explaining the situation, rather than 90% of the commentary community. You explained why the tweet was weird, and why the movement is important, perfectly. Thank you
I know regular show had it's fair share of horrifying one off characters, but promise pie just hit different.
im so glad charlie uses his voice on youtube to make sure people actually hear about these issues too, otherwise so many, including me wouldnt even know some of this stuff was happening.
UA-cam: "Voice for everyone."
Also youtube: "Silent every voice that expose horrible people."
*edit: I changed the word "everyome" to "everyone" since people started a war for this small typo.
Yep!
Why did you post this twice
Everyome isn't everyone.
@Bender Bending Rodriguez You're spamming this comment a _lot,_ my guy. Parts of the internet have trends, but it ain't a monolith.
And when you word everything (like you did in the other comments) so aggressively, you predispose readers into disagreeing.
@@inversion9651 can’t expect much from a fortnite profile, oh no he pressed a button next to N. What a horrifying experience bro!
I respect the hell out of you Charlie. You’re not only helping support this cause, but also critiquing the parts of it that are shitty and counter-productive. Thank you.
Its hard to have a nuanced point of view in this day and age where radical ideologues are popular and common sense is not so common.
@@JarthenGreenmeadow the main problem with social media is how it just strips nuance from everything and turns it into a mess
They say that if you love and support something, you critique it even harder because you wante it to be good
Now if only people on the Internet could get that through their thick skulls
unrelated but nice reki pfp ^^
what cause? maxs vid got take down cuz of some black dudes ass in IMVU, he admits it himself..
The newest drama caused by MamaMax goes to show Charlie’s in the right. He wants to claim the moral high ground while directly starting the exact drama that he claims to hate.
ironically mamamax got a huge boost to his videos during this situation so he wanted to do it again but this time people didnt care so he started harrasing them lmao
I don't defend Mamamax for his antics, his style of doing things is not at all what's right for this situation. BUT, his intention was to clearly high the stakes and cause the shitstorm that will devide everyone. Because let's be frank, UA-cam deserves to receive the sledgehammer on their heads and make either a fresh new start, or be completely swallowed up by a new and more capable successor company.
@dude. nah he's handling it in the only reasonable way.
I feel like max used this approach because with youtube, you wont get a response until you cause a shitstorm
@@deltaflash7889 this exactly. u can make 1million videos that is built around this, but if you dont have one that seemingly enforce some sort of "mob mentality", then its not hyped up enough to be an issue that needs to be addressed and they get downplayed and drowned overtime.
i mean before this gets trended, i'm sure lots of people are in the "dark" of it. not glorifying that its the right course of action, but it did what it did well, to bring up an issue, albeit not in the best manner.
its weird sometimes the most effective solution is one that isn't sound, or rational or most effective by its own means. just goes to show how fked up the world is. i believe people are good, but just been placed in bad situations. at least i hoped they are...
@@KlaireMurre Vigilantism doesn't work. This isn't a comic book, and Mamamax isn't the Punisher
@@everybodyknowslego id rather have pedos publicly shamed rather than nothing
Censorship is one of the worse things in our society right now. Information is valuable and when people can't see what's really going on it is harmful. 100% agree with you.
society..............
Those with power and money like to stay in control
Tell that to China
@El Troll Bad western localisations of games in a nutshell.
Everyone hates censorship until they disagree with something.
“When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say.”
Wow this is honestly an amazing quote
Wow this quote never fails to not show up in these kinds of videos
Very true!
Veggietales facts-
Man, now I gotta find somewhere to hide all those tongues I ripped out
Even though Charlie is completely correct with his take of #pickasideyoutube, opposing Max's message at the end, I noticed that channels are kind of now shitting on Max and making him out to be a cringy asshole for this trend he created, when it was just a mistake for his hashtag that was not executed in the right way. Charlie and Max are some of my favorites when it comes to UA-camrs, and Charlie is the perfect middle ground for the situation. I hope Mama Max acknowledges this all in a UA-cam video to clear up the stigma surrounding his misguided hashtag.
I don't care about the issues or problems or solutions, I just think that video was one of the most cringe things I've seen in my entire life.
@@xXFluffers that makes you the problem
Lol at this comment now in 2024
The issue of dark content getting taken down is so serious, information is one of the most powerful things we have. Taking down videos exposing bad actors to warn potential victims and reduce bad peoples influence is short sighted and horrible. History content is one of the best ways to both learn about and understand the lessons of history in a fun way but mentioning the dark parts that need to be talked about results in strikes. Independent creators have made incredible horror and arg content on this platform only to have their vision and creativity nerfed. Channels that talk about and try to help/inform people about abuse go from safe spaces to overly censored and half as effective. When things are catered to the advertisers everybody loses, the creators, the viewers, and UA-cam’s wide variety of content to draw people in.
"With guns, you can kill terrorists. With education, you can kill terrorism."
~ Malala Yousafzai
Mamamax shouldn’t be punished for shedding light and being striked every effing time just because of his content
Why don’t they strike mainstream content like Jimmy Kimmel for doing blackface? Black face isn’t offensive but calling out pedophiles is?
it was litterally over a black dudes naked butt bro, did no one actually watch maxs vid??
obv p3dos aint good but bruh come tf on, you cant just be showing man booty and expecting those weak-stomached nerds at yt to handle it.
@@aaronlandry3934 Because Jimmy Kimmel’s a talking head who is nothing as a person, but has a lot of money, UA-cam’s favorite type of people
@@notjimpickens7928 i didn't get to see the vid tbh.
@@aaronlandry3934 you for real?
The second moist said pedophilia is bad I immediately started clapping, congratulating him on something no one would do
same i stood up from i chair and started to applaud when i heard him say pedophilia is bad
I started yelling “HELL YEAH!!!”
why are there some many links in the comments is that just the thing
I didnt clap because its pedophillia is bad is the only opinion. its not something impressive and snyone who disagrees is a sick creep who deserves to be bashed tf out of
I just sat there silent as the night
…a single tear of joy streamed down my cheek
Keeping any group people in an ignorance bubble doesn't protect them when it pops. Only education and acknowledging the problem does.
You can't hope to cover the sun with a finger and then expect not to get sunburn; it isn't that hard but simple concepts seem to be so hard to grasp for a lot of people. It's not even rocket science. If you hide bad things happening they will continue to happen.
Thanks for keeping level headed and objective about the issue, we need more people like you man.
well this aged well ..
UA-cam doesn't care what a video is about, they just care whether advertisers like it, and advertisers happen to not like videos with dark topics. It's really that simple, and it sucks.
Unless it's a Mainstream Media source talking about it. Then ads are fine.
"Dick or Dildo" and nude yoga are also apparently fine.
@@xdragoonzero0 dont forget about mukbanging live animals
Animal torturing channels are still up and advertising for companys.
Its really that simple, and it sucks
@@xdragoonzero0 - WAP - just saying.. That’s basically porn. They should censor that shit..
@@psych2bewell982 because big corperate back up and also it's meant to be a promotion for feminism or some shit so educational purposes
I felt the pain on Charlie's face when he was talking about people thinking he defends pedophiles after listening to 250+ hours of Kaya and the boys insulting pedophiles on the Official podcast
So uh....we're still taking over pedophile island, right?
Of course we are, in 120 fps. #kayatheconqueror
Most of the people who jump on the cancellation train know almost nothing about the person they’re canceling. The same applies here.
@@SmoothTurtle840 Or saw a random tweet or article saying 'this person did this' and 100% believe it.
@@catenjoyer76 Yep, people just can’t be fucked to do a little background research.
You seen Mamamax being exposed as a fraud and Mutahar disavowing him completely? Crazy stuff, i think you should do a dive on it.
I actually think the "pick a side" strategy is brilliant. It has generated a lot of attention and is simple to digest. I clicked on this video which was also titled "pick a side YT" purely because of the title. I am now aware of a problem that I didn't know existed.
Yea but it is misleading and may make people think that it is another Matt (if you remember him), he did the same thing a couple of years ago and turned out to be a creep drama hungry plant by companies that wanted an apocalypse.
Attacking UA-cam and acting like it sides with pedophiles (which they obviously don't) won't fix the problem, it might just start another apocalypse and make censorship even worse.
Yeah, it’s a bad strategy for actually conveying the point, but it’s brilliant one for gaining traction. The best way to have your voice heard these days is unfortunately outrage content, and “youtube pick between pedos and kids” is far more likely to get that outrage and attention than “youtube censorship is harmful and creates more victims.” Best move to get the actual nuanced point across? No. But best move for getting everyone to direct their attention towards that point? Absolutely.
You already nailed it with the first sentence
I’m glad we have people like Charlie in this world.
Seriously though. Charlie always sticks to his guns. He's good about speaking his mind and always thinking things out for himself. Like, he still agrees with the dude for the most part but he'll tell him exactly where he's being a dumbass.
DUDE just read my name
Charlie is literally the second coming of Jesus, he even looks like him haha
What are you doing to help the world
I agree Charlie. Calling out the bad actors= positive outcome, but calling out other UA-camrs near confrontational as though they are supportive of the bad actors= negative outcome. IE, bad approach!
I am so sorry for these stupid bots spamming your comment Kathleen, this is why youtube is never getting any better.
bots with shit humor are a disgrace to trolling
@Jack Wrath you like little kids?
can someone tell me wtf bad actors are?
@@Masterdeath16 James Corden... Seth Rogan... Who ever played Michael's daughter in Godfather Part 3
How unfortunate this whole situation was.
They’re basically treating the victims like their the perpetrators.
Here is how things should be.
1. Pedos and Animal Abuse should be removed in seconds
2. Censorship for independent journalism should be removed for the most part
That is all
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nah youtube not gonna do that because they are trying to take care of major problems like for example the dislike button
I definitely agree for the most part. However, there’s some things that masquerade as “independent journalism” that is really just misinformation, and sometimes that misinfo can actually lead to lives being destroyed, whether through harassment campaigns or being harmed directly through that misinfo. Obviously we need to be careful, but I think there is a line that should be drawn somewhere.
Charlie: “Pedophilia’s bad”
All of us: WOOOOOOOO YEAHHHHH BABY. THATS WHAT I BEEN WAITIN FOR, THATS WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT!
*within 20 seconds of watching the video*
@Jack Wrath fatherless behavior
@Jack Wrath Cringe + Ratio for trolling
@Jack Wrath Average Maximilianmus Fan
@Jack Wrath Prison is just a place
Well this aged poorly
I think the problem with the hashtag is that it's Twitter
You can't have nuanced issues on Twitter
That's why people are dogpiling on those who criticize the approach
As a survivor of CSA. This means so much. To see people standing even when the backlash has been heavy.
Respect you and your platform.
MamaMax has been the reason I found what I can do personally in my own life. What he has done and continues to do is nothing short of amazing. I appreciate his hard work and his heart.
The fuck is CSA
@@rejuch5136
Childhood sexual abuse.
@so random you should join some kind of organization that helps prevent this type of stuff
@@rejuch5136 The Confederate States of America, of course. This person has survived the war and lived 200 years to be here and tell us about it.
(I didn't know it stood for something else either, don't worry. I have no idea why they keep using the worst acronyms for twitter hashtags).
@@rejuch5136 CSA has always meant Cricket South Africa, to me.
I feel like if Cr1tiKal ran UA-cam, it would seriously be a better place. Fucking heaven
Its here
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Q.
Well of course, he is internet Jesus
"This is the Greatest UA-cam of All Time"
@@ari1758 rare to see a non bot comment, thumbs up
God i hope these bots would be gone if he ran UA-cam
You intrigued me at "fuckle your seat belt." And you hooked me with the content. Appreciate you addressing this with your signature flair.
0:14 upon hearing this I immediately blurted out "THANK YOU." And you even added clarity to your "hot take" that really shouldn't be a hot take at all. You're the hero we need Charlie
Charlie is such a gamer he gets #6 trending for gaming without even gaming
#4 now, he’s insane
The best gamers get banned like AL3x J0nes did
@@Lawlz4Dayzz not the best gamer
#3 now 💀
Except he uploads gaming videos all the time lol
This man is speaking facts against a terrible situation, I don't know why people are hating on him. Keep it up Charlie.
Edit: Shout out to the people who found my private discord, yes Penguin, I mean you ;)
Oh😱..
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I think Charlie need to ban these spammers in comment replies
@Louiebruh2 yawn
@@michaelsebastian914 fr annoying as hell
These bots are getting so much worse
I didn’t actually think about it that way, but I’ve been looking at it from the perspective of knowing what is going on and not an outsider’s view. BUT good ol’ Charlie just clarified what everything was so people who have no idea what’s going on can look into things and that hashtag will hopefully not cause as much division as could have had he not addressed or for more people to see.
Even worse, history gets censored.
“Our job is to make sure everyone has a voice. But it doesn’t mean we have to listen.”
-UA-cam, probably
Bruh
Well said. I even chuckled.
"If what you're saying doesn't benefit us you will be silenced."
-Also UA-cam
While we're here can we talk about them disabling the downvotes? Why would they get rid of our biggest BS detector?
@@pluckybellhop66 because they’re traumatized from what happened during youtube rewind
The greatest decision making of all time
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U didn’t even watch the full video
@@momslayer66 neither did you
@@killeriilllhb8519 neither did you
@@realhumbug no one did 😂😂
The real issue is how UA-cam just handles every issue that its creators has in a singleton way when there are clear systemic problems, and never address the root issues, preferring to sweep things under the rug. I think the first instinct of the site would be, when a shitstorm happens, "Okay, our solution is to bring MamaMax's video back. We'll keep letting other investigative videos get struck though." And it's proven effective because people just seem to forgive and forget when individual creators are restituted, while those who don't have a Twitter following have no recourse. UA-cam sticks their head in the sand and tries to pretend there's no problems if the problems are tricky to address.
A big movement that doesn't back down unless something internally changes for the better is needed. Because I suspect that even if it's not at the top, there's still people within UA-cam that have conflicts of interest that cause them to unfairly strike down content or keep it struck down on manual review. Or very poor/inconsistent rules given to their manual review teams. The algorithm has its own issues, but I don't see how that could be fixed short of removing the automation which would pretty much break UA-cam entirely, given how reliant it is on automation.
However, calling unrelated individuals out seems like a bad move. My biggest complaint was that he clearly brought up a personal beef with Corpse -- whoever the hell that even is, I'm unfamiliar with their content -- and clearly and publically tried to do moral ransom. It was a clear attempt to force his hand using rather underhanded public shaming for a completely unrelated and personal issue. He did not need to go into details of how he was personally wronged. That, if you ask me, was the one point where he really crossed the line.
One really has to be careful, either way, when they bring out any sort of 'with us or against us' mentality, because it's an extremely slippery slope. But worse is that I'm concerned that dropping a bomb like this won't even guarantee the core issue be addressed. That is, UA-cam sticking their heads in the sand when they make decisions everyone hates, and not listening to criticism. Because, yes -- people ARE sick of how UA-cam practices the definition of insanity.
It's probably because most of the site is run by bots, because you'd have to hire so many people o effectively moderate the platform. Bots are very hard to get right due to how they work algorithmically which isn't like humans who go based on rules and emotions.
@@illford6921 Plus, I remember a thing one of my relatives said during a conversation. Take what I say with grains of salt, as I do not want to give a source. This was from a family member.
But they stated that some of the people who had manually moderated such content got exposed to some very traumatizing things and got depressed as a result, even committing suicide in some cases. It may also be morality on their side but personally it makes sense that they want bots. The more you get people to review such content you may get quality of such moderation to decrease, because if you get repeatedly exposed you may lose sensitivity.
Of course, I also think the last point I made isn't a very good argument against it. It's a mixture of both ethics and mechanics, as they are unleashing these systems on those trying to warn others about such content. I feel there should be a system of both flesh and metal because of this. Have bots be the first line of defense, use them as a general sweep. Have them split into different "Task Forces", if you will. Some for illegal activity, some for promoting such, and generally hateful content. Next, have more thorough searches be made. Explicit things will be called out automatically. Use filters to see if such content is hidden in the video, stuff like that. Of course, next thing is to send more ambiguous stuff to humans. They can decide from there, and be the overall moderation.
This is not a perfect system. Some humans are going to potentially be bad actors, and a company can go SCP-5000 at any point, causing such systems to fall far from grace. However, it is one of the best *theoretical* and possible systems I can think of immediately, without considering circumstances.
If AI do eventually gain emotional intelligence, I can't wait to see the therapy bills for the country skyrocket.
That problem is even bigger than calling people out, there are also educational videos that are being taken down for covering controversial subjects such as videos that go in depth about North Korea
I bet UA-cam is gonna use an excuse like they did when removing dislikes. "It might lead to witch hunts"
@Sorbet Kid careful there. Remember the old runescape guy that broke down after constant harassment from keems fans because keem falsely accused him of being a pea dough? People get shit wrong all the time and the wrong people could be “exposed” or worse in the process. The end goal of this isn’t to have the ability to witch hunt. It’s to bring more exposure to serious topics and fucked up actions from people on the platform without fear of censorship. With enough exposure, the truth is bound to come out and we may be able to save kids lives like the daddyofive kids who were being abused for views.
Balancing people’s right to privacy (funny, expecting that from google) and allowing content creators to talk about serious and many times illegal activity is tough but we’ve had too many elsagates, animal rescues, peluchin entertainments, and edps on this platform for yt to continue to turn a blind eye.
@@sorimasn When there is a crystal clear evidence that can't be fabricated but legal law forces still refuse to take actions or they do it way too slowly or they even regect the whole case... only mob justice can do the right thing. Mistakes will always happen here and there, the difference is: judges don't scare off these predos but furious mob terrifies them.
@@realswobby exactly, these people never get legal consequences. @alex Martinez is right, but if its proven with evidence beyond shadow of a doubt, I'm pro witch hunt. Like you said, they're much more afraid of what other people do to pedos than what the law does to pedos. Even in jail they're not safe
jokes aside, im so glad youre speaking about this
What the fuck are theses comments above me about?
@@Randomness67 no.. it’s the ones below you🤨
your thumbnails are so desperate
@@briezeee after i commented look above tho
Jokes aside???
I cannot believe max wanted to cancel you. Dude is crazy
I wish more players and people where like you instead of only thinking about themselves or protecting their own accounts when they see that bad things are going on!!! It seems like it's a rare thing these days amongst content creators & gamers. Keep it up brother!!! Bows
I can always trust charlie to have a levelheaded response. Even if the hashtag isn't the best play, I hope it still goes somewhere.
Hallelujer 🙏 ❤️
It ended in a call, which will be just as effective as charlie’s
@PinochetBall the funny part is that you think youre real
You can keep being mindless Charlie thinks for you nice 😊
Don't we all
As always, Charlie is right. TWITTER SUCKS.
Yep. Twitter users are litteral toxic waste.
zwitter
@@methane5211 charlie uses twitter
Nice pfp brother
I think it depends on who you follow really. But it's just too easy to find toxic people, that's the problem. I use twitter sometimes, and there's so much negativity there, it's really sad.
You and SOG are amoung the few we have left to keep shit straight around here. Love you charlie you will always be one of my favorite youtubers. ❤️
I’m a survivor of CSA and this video really means a lot. Thank you so much Charlie.
I love when Charlie’s so irritated he turns to toddler insults like ‘stinky-yucky’
Honestly tho this is gross and has been a problem for a while, UA-cam don’t seem to give a shit about their creators or their audiences, just their shareholders
@U2NhcnljdW50NjQ= you wish
mans using ratio on youtube
go back to twitter
@U2NhcnljdW50NjQ= lmao in your dreams buddy
@U2NhcnljdW50NjQ= and you said "ratio" because you got ratio'd
Make bee brick the biggest meme (watch the newest video)
The voice of reason has spoken. UA-cam just needs to listen to him, he knows what's best for the platform.
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God damn it, its you again
The clout chaser has spoken.
and holy shit these bots are fast
You are relapsing towards like farming, do better please
love those spots of light on your white shirt, it is like ray tracing in games
the random frame thumbnails are always awesome
I’m glad you’re speaking about this, UA-cam doesn’t need to remove the dislike button it needs better moderators and have their workers actually watching the videos rather then bots, these videos get taken down while porn gets passed by
The irony of the reply to this comment is just amazingly sad
@@G33KPVP yo what are the odds this happens on this comment lmao?
@@G33KPVP m ok
@@G33KPVP Jnjjbj
@@Nightmare-wo2gd: On a Moist Critikal video? 80% if you haven't read the other comments there's bots selling sex in mostly every comment.
For anyone who doesn't have much time, here's a summary :
Cr1tikal stands behind Mama Max's message of UA-cam being unfair to content creators who investigate/create content on darker subject matters, however he doesn't agree with Mama Max's method of making it a "pick a side" type thing, in Charlie's opinion this create in-fighting and oversimplifies Mama Max's message.
No
"waah youtube unfair because I don't like how they run this service"
"so anyways heres a UA-cam shorts ad"
@@Fake_DeadRat Actually yes it's what Charlie said in the video. He's also right.
@@Squeekysquid no
but the problem is that its justice system job, everybody is innocent until proven guilty... and that is the job for police... its bad enough with antivax morons spreding misinformation... what if someone tried to spread information that you are pedophile... even if you are convicted, youtube rather block every content that contains this just to make sure it doesnt spread lies
We’ve existed in our current state for hundreds of thousands of years and we’re still fighting over, “Is removing important information bad?” Or, “is pedophillia bad?”
Thank you for bringing light to this subject
A lot of content gets taken down for being to mature for kids but they have a whole different platform for kids with UA-cam Kids.
Also UA-cam censor a lot of things and if I am honest I am sick of it because I personally consume a lot of dark and mature content and I am tired of videos being taken down for no reason
I'd like some warning before such a hot take there Charlie.
Loved watching your invincible comic vids
@Based god (Sound City) 🅥 seriously. Get a life
*there
@@vjc3818 beat me to it 😔
I always wonder what people who don’t know the proper “there’s” for the right situations even think. Like do they just use them interchangeably not questioning it
Asking for help from someone by accusing them of disgusting things is not a way to start a conversation. Charlie is right on this one. You wouldn't help someone either if the starting point was them calling you a pedophile if you don't do what they say.
Exactly, especially nowdays where people are fueled with emotion. Pointing fingers and making claims towards who youd like to be your allies is bound to backfire on you quickly
I see that and I get where Charlie is coming from, but like- UA-cam is pretty much covering up and "protecting" (whether they mean to or not) pedophiles from getting justice or acknowledgement for their wrongdoings. They rather have money and a "clean" UA-cam for ad revenue than address predators on their own site and fix it- I can see why Charlie doesn't care for this black and white outlook here, but I think Max is so fed up at this point and has gone through so much that to him this is essentially what they're doing. I think Charlie is definitely right that this is not the productive way to handle things, but I can't necessarily blame Max for being so frustrated when he is just trying to tell the truth. I also think that this is more of a shock factor thing, these are very serious allegations but unfortunately unless something like this happens it's going to be completely ignored by Susan and UA-cam. In short this is a risky move but I see this ultimately as a final act of desperation if anything-
@@BloodInTheStrawberries Hurting someone else when you've been hurt first does not give you the moral high ground. If he's fed up, he should take a step back and think about what he can do to fix this issue. There is ALWAYS another option. It's good to understand someone's bad behavior, but that never justifies it. As I always say, "That explains it, but that doesn't excuse it."
If you let desperation fuel your reasoning, you'll eventually falter and be forgotten.
Every hashtag or argument on Twitter is eventually forgotten. People changed their icons to a black circle and never spoke about it, drifting further and further away from the movement. People hashtag yet another unjust murder and forget about it a week later. These people are not dedicated because they don't have anything to back up their reasoning. To them, being angry is enough to justify a shitty Tweet. To them, being desperate is enough to justify not doing anything else to make change in the world.
Life is more than a goddamn hashtag.
@@nomoretwitterhandles in the second half of olive oils reply I believe he is saying that what max is doing isn't right but in a way it has a reasoning behind it that can be understood. Which to some extent I agree with, Max is trying to fix a very bad problem but the way he is going about is not only counterproductive but also morally wrong. But I can understand the reasoning behind it and see it from his point of view.
@@jaceowens9572 Again, his reasoning behind it does NOT excuse his shit behavior.
3:34 love the fact Shane dawsons on there
Right??? Of all the creators he could tag
The moral traction lost over the last 50-100 years has already decided this fight.
Unless we start a witch hunt yesterday.
It isn’t even sad that people have to even debate this topic anymore it’s actually down right frightening at this point how can people choose to defend such disgusting behavior
Edit:I just want to clarify that no I’m not going after critikal no he’s not in support of MAPs in any way shape or form i wrote that comment early on in the video and just commented because it makes me frustrated with humanity that this is where we stand at things that there are people like this who receive protection for the terrible things they do again critikal isn’t a shill for UA-cam he isn’t supporting MAPs and he isn’t against the content creator who started this he’s just pointing out how the hashtag is problematic
Alex J0nes and the evil ring of rich elite predators with epstein looking more credible if youtube protects these predators and punishes exposure.
they are not defending it, i mean intentionally they just want to keep the site add friendly regardless of the consequences and this is the ending result, but as long as cash keeps flowing they dont care.
History use to go to extremes, last century it was i mortal crime to be gay, now its okay, but it always go to an extreme as "people" says pedophilia is lgbt
The Results are directly in line with defending, whatever their intentions are.
People are giving them a chance to see if they will change due to brand image. But sometimes its a clear direct defense, like Twitter allowing CP because it "isn't against TOS" even though its illegal and horrible brand wise.
@@bernardocarvalho5004 Literally no one is saying that MAPs are valid in the LGBT community outside of MAPs who are elbowing their way in the crowd so they wouldn’t get called out.
UA-cam - "the scam bots are fine"
Also UA-cam - "The dislike button is hate speech to our advertisers and must go"
The worst ones are the chucklefucks like Louiebruh who spam the horrible shit about Seáns father or Marks niece... Just degenerate behaviour altogether.
@@youngdolo8 yeah he spammed donkey crap under Mamamax’s comment thread above.
7:30 "only a sith deals in absolutes"
that statement is an absolute
Those sun spots on his eyes remind me of every scene Captain Kirk had that was close up
the whole point is to get youtube attention, “censorship is bad” has been said for years and youtube ignores it. they don’t want their name attached to “pedophile” again. that’s more likely to get the attention max wants and needs.
Sorry, I don't know enough about the topic. What do you mean "again"?
@@devanfalcon2043 a few years ago a guy named Matt Watson unintentionally started the ad-pocalypse by exposing the pedo content and the tons of pedos in the youtube comment section
@@beelzebub2222 Oh, interesting. I'll look more into it. Thanks mate
If these people weren't trying to protect certain groups and silence certain issues we wouldn't still be having this discussion years later
Everyone needs to get on the same page and accept that the argument Max is making is THE correct one here.
Yep. It had to be this way.
10 seconds in and “fuckle your seat belt” had me dying. That’s what I love about Charlie’s channel
@Louiebruh2 This guy really has nothing better to do but copy another comment for attention
@Based god (Sound City) 🅥 yeah yeah sure...
@Louiebruh2 wtf lol
@Based god (Sound City) 🅥 you’re a bot
@Based god (Sound City) 🅥 Yes, you are a bot
It's kind of the problem with many snappy slogans for movements and whatever. Especially if they aren't thought out. Often they divide people who would otherwise be working together.
To be honest, "You like pedophiles or you like kids" is a very captious question.