Phil Davis - Collegiate & Folkstyle Wrestling In MMA

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  • Phil Davis was a superb collegiate wrestler for Penn State where he won the NCAA championship in 2008. After transitioning to MMA he adapted his folkstyle wrestling base to develop a unique riding and punching style.
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    Gould, K. (2010). Cageside Clutch: Phil Davis' Open Scissors Leg Lock. Retrieved from www.cagesideseats.com/2010/11...
    Phil Davis - Wrestling - Penn State University Athletics. (2019). Retrieved from gopsusports.com/roster.aspx?r...
    Wilcox, N. (2010). Judo Chop: Phil Davis Invents a Hammerlock Variation Called the 'Mr Wonderful'. Retrieved from www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/11/2...
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    TIMESTAMPS:
    0:00 Phil Davis Introduction
    1:15 Ankle Ride
    2:39 Inside Wrist Ride
    3:53 Cross Wrist Ride
    5:20 Mat Returns
    6:45 Cradles
    7:27 Grounded Knees
    8:00 Arm Chops
    8:26 Folkstyle In MMA Conclusion
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  • @zedek_
    @zedek_ 4 роки тому +153

    Good point, I hate how reductionist people are when they talk about wrestling; they merely talk about takedowns, and completely ignore the majority of the art.

    • @boywonder4509
      @boywonder4509 4 роки тому +22

      Most people don't realize folkstyle originated from catch wrestling. It was developed as a less brutal version of catch, without the submissions and taught to youth.

    • @graciederangementsyndrome3669
      @graciederangementsyndrome3669 4 роки тому +4

      @@boywonder4509 Not true. CACC originally never had submissions until the Japanese introduced them. Submissions were developed within worked matches and not for real fights.

    • @boywonder4509
      @boywonder4509 4 роки тому +13

      @@graciederangementsyndrome3669 When did the Japanese introduce submissions into an art that had submission holds (also known as hooks) since it's inception?

    • @MrLazenby007
      @MrLazenby007 4 роки тому +10

      Gracie Derangement Syndrome please spare us your propaganda you zealot

    • @oneguy7202
      @oneguy7202 4 роки тому +12

      @@graciederangementsyndrome3669 catch came from lanichester wrestling that have submission even ancient Greek style of wrestling (παλη) have submission.

  • @adaptiveagile
    @adaptiveagile 4 роки тому +66

    Phil’s a very intelligent fighter. Great commentary.

  • @HaiFishing
    @HaiFishing 4 роки тому +9

    Phil Davis is the black Khabib Nurmagomedov. Wish he was still in the UFC, would love to see him try these techniques against Jon Jones.

  • @GambleDub
    @GambleDub 4 роки тому +34

    Holy shit, I slept on this vid for waaaaay too long. Simply amazing!

    • @SonnyBrown
      @SonnyBrown  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks mate! Means a lot coming from you as I still reference your Williams Guard & Polish Throw resources.

  • @patrickcoyne3211
    @patrickcoyne3211 4 роки тому +33

    As a life long wrestler who started competing in MMA a few years back, ride and punch is my go to.

    • @SonnyBrown
      @SonnyBrown  4 роки тому +9

      Nice one Patrick! I wish I had started wrestling at a younger age.

  • @Bingo-fh2cr
    @Bingo-fh2cr 3 роки тому +6

    Happy he helped our wrestling team improve so much! Love Phil Davis ❤️

  • @sebeng4711
    @sebeng4711 4 роки тому +4

    those takedowns were beeaauuttiiffuull. so smooth.

  • @kymrobinson7986
    @kymrobinson7986 4 роки тому +19

    Your videos are highly recommended to the kids I coach. Always quality and informative. You are the rad mate

    • @SonnyBrown
      @SonnyBrown  4 роки тому +1

      Cheers Kym ! Appreciate ethe support from an Aussie legend!

    • @kymrobinson7986
      @kymrobinson7986 4 роки тому

      @@SonnyBrown Ha you are too kind.

  • @sixhundred3score6
    @sixhundred3score6 3 роки тому +2

    As a folkstyle wrestler as a kid, I found great joy in watching this.

  • @kallepikku4991
    @kallepikku4991 4 роки тому +10

    Great video. Your knowledge of Folkstyle wrestling and it's history is phenomenon. Please make more of these!

  • @form_7wrestlingman810
    @form_7wrestlingman810 4 роки тому +4

    Yes been waiting for another one of your vids

  • @stressedoutbluebelt5397
    @stressedoutbluebelt5397 3 роки тому +2

    That Iowa Ride is something special.

  • @kevionrogers2605
    @kevionrogers2605 4 роки тому +4

    When knee strikes and head butts were allowed on the ground as taught by Hammer House Folkstyle Wrestling was even more effective. Spiral ride with knees to the face was one of my favorite techniques.

  • @dawidgrzeskow987
    @dawidgrzeskow987 4 роки тому +9

    Great brother, will focus on use this grips in may way.

  • @BrendanDormanMMA
    @BrendanDormanMMA 4 роки тому +11

    Nice work brother. Conceptually and in execution, you're going hard in the wrestling paint. I dig it.

    • @SonnyBrown
      @SonnyBrown  4 роки тому +2

      Thanks mate! Took a while to put together so glad you enjoyed it! Its always hard to guess what people will like or not so I will just have to keep putting in work :)

  • @ffnovice7
    @ffnovice7 4 роки тому +4

    Super underrated video resource

  • @KaliCarter
    @KaliCarter 4 роки тому +10

    This is a damn good video essay, brother. I appreciate your efforts.

    • @SonnyBrown
      @SonnyBrown  4 роки тому

      Thanks very much for the compliment Kali !

  • @999yuiop
    @999yuiop 4 роки тому +12

    Great video Sonny. Hopefully you can do a video on how to defend against mat returns and rides and other aspects of folkstyle wrestling, there aren't many videos out there covering it.

    • @SonnyBrown
      @SonnyBrown  4 роки тому +3

      Yeah I think I will start to cover more defensive moves for a bit.

  • @bottle_coke
    @bottle_coke 4 роки тому

    Very informational! All your videos are great film study

  • @joaopedrosilva8052
    @joaopedrosilva8052 4 роки тому +2

    Another great breakdown. Thank you!

  • @theodorewurz8424
    @theodorewurz8424 4 роки тому +40

    Catch as Catch Can is the most adaptable for Mixed Martial Arts, basically for the reasons stated in this video. It has all the holds, controls and pins of folkstyle but it is more brutal and includes nasty submissions, often from the same pinning positions of folkstyle. I have trained both, Catch just builds off of folkstyle. Erik Paulson call Catch "Bjj on steroids", but its really folkstyle on steroids.

    • @theodorewurz8424
      @theodorewurz8424 4 роки тому +4

      @oliver closehoff I'll ignore that comment about JKD lol. Too much to get into and it opens a can of worms. Catch is a real system, and just like Bjj every coach will have their own take on it; but it does have principles, a philosophy and fundamentals (which are actually pretty much the folkstyle fundamentals).

    • @theodorewurz8424
      @theodorewurz8424 4 роки тому +3

      @oliver closehoff And the reason you don't see many guy in MMA using it are because 1) not many learn it; 2) because MMA, typically, is being taught a Muay Thai, Freestyle takedowns, Bjj, and Boxing. There hasn't been enough exploration and innovation in the typical MMA program. I think this is slowly changing though. We'll be seeing some successful Catch Wrestling based fighters in MMA soon.

    • @theodorewurz8424
      @theodorewurz8424 4 роки тому +2

      @oliver closehoff Curran Jacobs. There is a ton of work getting off your back in Catch, just like in Folkstyle. Because of the pin, guys don't work there, but they get good at getting off their backs and getting back up. Catch is like folkstyle in that respect. Watch Curran, Victor Henry and my friend Jesse James Kosakowski. They are all using Catch and doing very well in MMA. Curran will be making his pro debut soon, Jesse will be fighting again soon and Victor Henry is ranked number 1 nationally and should be in the UFC soon.

    • @theodorewurz8424
      @theodorewurz8424 4 роки тому +4

      @oliver closehoff The only thing really holding Catch back is that there aren't many people who know it. But when I show it to people, they like it.

    • @oneguy7202
      @oneguy7202 4 роки тому +5

      @@theodorewurz8424 real catch is too hard to find

  • @lucabarbaresco630
    @lucabarbaresco630 4 роки тому

    really really nice video, as always
    parabéns

  • @nickyb1499
    @nickyb1499 3 роки тому +1

    Great video, Davis is honestly one of my favorite fighters

  • @jobilibalawa1008
    @jobilibalawa1008 4 роки тому

    great breakdown

  • @FM-kb3hf
    @FM-kb3hf 4 роки тому +4

    Nurmagomedov and GSP have freestyle base and they are the folkstyle kryptonite!

    • @youseffsoliman5711
      @youseffsoliman5711 3 роки тому

      Can you explain why please?

    • @FM-kb3hf
      @FM-kb3hf 3 роки тому +1

      @Luke Brown GSP started wrestling under Russian wrestling coach beside mma

  • @aiyahuntacheimumbi236
    @aiyahuntacheimumbi236 4 роки тому +5

    You do such a great job streamlining these videos with great visual examples and by keeping your explanations brief and easy to follow. If you had any interest I think a Jon Jones Greco Roman Wrestling video would end up being pretty popular.

    • @SonnyBrown
      @SonnyBrown  4 роки тому +3

      Thank you! I spend a lot of time making sure its the way you have seen it.

  • @forcewayne9884
    @forcewayne9884 4 роки тому

    Great video

  • @pheonixxavier6725
    @pheonixxavier6725 4 роки тому +3

    I love wrestling

  • @xyungdethxxnarcotic1583
    @xyungdethxxnarcotic1583 3 роки тому +2

    I have been wrestling for 7 years and I plan on fighting soon and this is basically my plan lol I’m not the best at takedowns but compared to most fighters I’ve found it easier to take down strikers and bjj guys but my bread in butter in collage was my mat wrestling and grinding guys down from the top until they had nothing left witch made them easy to take them down in the second or third or even overtime

  • @chrisXDfull
    @chrisXDfull 4 роки тому +2

    phenomenal

  • @tayl0165
    @tayl0165 4 роки тому

    Awesome video!

  • @jongrappler287
    @jongrappler287 4 роки тому +1

    inside wrist to 1 arm kimura! Excellent work as always!

  • @moondragon130
    @moondragon130 4 роки тому

    Good vid on an underated tactic

  • @Utellglass
    @Utellglass 4 роки тому +3

    It be nice to see a study of Olympic judoka turn MMA fighter Dan "Dad" Kelly and his combination of judo grip fighting tactics and dirty boxing. Especially all his meta tactics of launching offense from grabbing of the gloves/wraps

    • @SonnyBrown
      @SonnyBrown  4 роки тому +4

      That could be interesting as he did have some interesting clinch entrys, I would have to go back and take a look. Also I might have the best chance of actually speaking to him about it.

    • @gladiumcaeli
      @gladiumcaeli 4 роки тому +1

      That would be awesome to see

  • @sl0ptart
    @sl0ptart 3 роки тому +1

    Could you please do a breakdown of Brian Ebersole? He's still one of my all-time favorite fighters. Unfortunately he got to the UFC late in his career and didn't get to fight much there but there are a few techniques he used that I still don't see anyone else use. Specifically beating up people on the ground with his shoulders. He would also routinely give up a guillotine because no one could ever make it work on him.

    • @SonnyBrown
      @SonnyBrown  3 роки тому +1

      Yeah actually I could, I have an interview with Brian on my podcast "The Sonny Brown Breakdown" if you want to give it a listen.

    • @sl0ptart
      @sl0ptart 3 роки тому

      @@SonnyBrown Thank you so much... There's very little info on him on UA-cam and the little bit there is focuses on his cartwheel kick which is his least impressive tool in his arsenal in my opinion.

  • @johndeneen980
    @johndeneen980 3 роки тому

    Another superior warrior

  • @navigatingel6104
    @navigatingel6104 2 роки тому

    I was here before the shoutout

  • @a.j.rusinek8856
    @a.j.rusinek8856 4 роки тому +3

    You need to do a breakdown on Mirko Cro Cop and Andeson Silva. Great breakdown as always.

    • @SonnyBrown
      @SonnyBrown  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks A.J. Might be tempted to do one of those someday.

  • @ishakaimen1576
    @ishakaimen1576 4 роки тому +33

    It’s starting to look like wrestling is the best base martial art not bjj.

    • @ivantheterribler8346
      @ivantheterribler8346 4 роки тому +10

      Wrestling is definantely important

    • @joaopedrosilva8052
      @joaopedrosilva8052 4 роки тому

      For mma yes, because of the ruleset.

    • @ivantheterribler8346
      @ivantheterribler8346 4 роки тому +13

      A hybrid style of wrestling and jiujitsu is the best

    • @ishakaimen1576
      @ishakaimen1576 4 роки тому +1

      Ivantheterrible r yes I was thinking the same thing, but what do you think this martial art should focus more on? Wrestling aspect or bjj aspect? Or 50%-50%?

    • @ivantheterribler8346
      @ivantheterribler8346 4 роки тому +1

      @@ishakaimen1576 i like your question, i would say 50/50. Take the takedowns from wrestling, the passing of bjj. The control and submissions of bjj. The ability to fight off your back in bjj and getting back to your feet. The conditioning and strength of wrestling, and the ground n pound of khabib.

  • @adamsmith3413
    @adamsmith3413 3 роки тому

    We Are..Penn State!

  • @ugurkaraalioglu2813
    @ugurkaraalioglu2813 4 роки тому +1

    👏nice breakdown what is next ,please ufc 100 lesnar-mir full analysis 👍

    • @SonnyBrown
      @SonnyBrown  4 роки тому

      Oooo not a bad idea. Would be a good one.

    • @ugurkaraalioglu2813
      @ugurkaraalioglu2813 4 роки тому

      @@SonnyBrown I watched the match full yesterday mir lockdown made the attempt but failed both rounds are pretty impressive performance by lesnar but in my opinion the second round ruthless and effective seemed unstoppable.

    • @ugurkaraalioglu2813
      @ugurkaraalioglu2813 4 роки тому

      @@SonnyBrown I think two people were able to control frank mir on the floor,lesnar ( mostly ufc 100 ) and overeem ( limited time ) .

  • @alanl7911
    @alanl7911 2 роки тому

    Ben askren was doin this as well! This stuffs way better than bjj imo cos its simpler and u dont lose posish (position). I dont like throwing in hooks and doin seatbelt. U lose the top and u cant beat “smesh” ppl. Khabib loves doin wrist rides.
    I guess if youre confident in your bjj, u could do standard turtle back take and throwin hooks for rnc. But keeping it simple like iowa ride after a takedown, wrist ride, cross-body leg ride even crucifix is cool andl fun cos u can just sit on top with at least one free hand to slapp ur enemy to death!
    Good video. I learnt a couple of moves. Now to the mats :)

    • @SonnyBrown
      @SonnyBrown  2 роки тому

      Yep, BJJ Scout did a great series on Askren 🙏

  • @kamalashraf4846
    @kamalashraf4846 3 роки тому

    Stopped the vid to like it.

  • @seetsamolapo5600
    @seetsamolapo5600 2 роки тому

    What's the difference between folkstyle and bjj ground control/positioning?

    • @SonnyBrown
      @SonnyBrown  2 роки тому

      The pin makes a big difference.

  • @briantokuyoshi9905
    @briantokuyoshi9905 3 роки тому +1

    After watching this video, it looks like the Khamzat Chimaev uses a similar blueprint in the Rhys McKee fight

  • @mikmac1048
    @mikmac1048 3 роки тому +1

    Makes you wonder if Justin used his offensive folk style against khabib outcome would probably be the same tbh

    • @SonnyBrown
      @SonnyBrown  2 роки тому

      Wouldve been interesting! 🙏

  • @prud5930
    @prud5930 3 роки тому

    8:51 LMAO he does the hand movement everyone does when they feel like the cross-arm wasn't legal. Fuckin shakes his finger n everything.

  • @luanmantilla3575
    @luanmantilla3575 2 роки тому

    So chops are useful

  • @samcharles3363
    @samcharles3363 4 роки тому

    1:16 I think most people call it a western

  • @prud5930
    @prud5930 4 роки тому

    8:51 broo he did him dirty there, what's the use in throwing a cross arm that fast

    • @acasillas
      @acasillas 2 роки тому

      You've never wrestled a day in your life

    • @prud5930
      @prud5930 2 роки тому

      @@acasillas
      ):<
      Well u don't know my life sir

  • @manonjuliette1725
    @manonjuliette1725 4 роки тому

    Folkstyle wrestling is just a goldmine for mma and jbb, people sleep on it

  • @andrewferris1903
    @andrewferris1903 4 роки тому +7

    Just watching those guys on bottom struggle made me tired, brutal.

    • @SonnyBrown
      @SonnyBrown  4 роки тому +1

      Cheers Andrew. Yeah I wouldnt want to trade places with them.

  • @tmpace9
    @tmpace9 4 роки тому

    Here comes Ed Ruth

  • @dboyzero
    @dboyzero 4 роки тому +1

    so, aside from superior athleticism, how do you mitigate this kind of ride and punch style? my first thought is to be more willing to put your back on the mat and try to play guard from there, but even nog couldn't seem to work that game effectively. so what's the answer, just do your damnedest to try and avoid letting him get top position at all costs?

    • @ishakaimen1576
      @ishakaimen1576 4 роки тому +1

      Don’t let them get their grips, hand fight hand fight. It’s like a rear naked choke

    • @theodorewurz8424
      @theodorewurz8424 4 роки тому +3

      Going to guard would be a terrible idea. Learn to wrestle. Nothing counters wrestling better than wrestling.

    • @SonnyBrown
      @SonnyBrown  4 роки тому +1

      Good question and something I will look to cover in the future.

  • @dantean
    @dantean 3 роки тому +1

    Excuse me while I go look up what "folkstyle wrestling" means. Possibly I'll return after doing that.

    • @SonnyBrown
      @SonnyBrown  2 роки тому

      Haha I was hoping this video would help !

  • @ivantheterribler8346
    @ivantheterribler8346 4 роки тому +1

    He uses some techniques that khabib uses.

    • @SonnyBrown
      @SonnyBrown  4 роки тому

      Yeah some crossover is there for sure.

  • @JrKinabalu
    @JrKinabalu 3 роки тому

    He should fight khabib. They both had domination grappling style.

  • @ffnovice7
    @ffnovice7 4 роки тому

    Would be cool if you hired a Japanese translator for catch wrestlers under the Gotch lineage

    • @SonnyBrown
      @SonnyBrown  4 роки тому +1

      I actually looked into this briefly to get some Shinya Aoki and Sakuraba stuff translated but the only ones I could find were very expensive. I am sure it would have been quality work but I couldnt justify the costs.

    • @ffnovice7
      @ffnovice7 4 роки тому +1

      @@SonnyBrown i see no worries

  • @toplobster740
    @toplobster740 3 роки тому +1

    Sent here by Dan Hardy.

    • @SonnyBrown
      @SonnyBrown  3 роки тому

      Very cool, where did he mention it?

  • @dondamaria3524
    @dondamaria3524 4 роки тому

    Freestyle wrestlers like cejudo and romeeo rarely use their takedowns...is it because they lack ground controll unlike folkstype wrestlers who have great ground cpntroll

  • @Rifforecordz
    @Rifforecordz 4 роки тому +1

    All of this is beautiful but where does Masvidals knee come into play...?

  • @sulbul64
    @sulbul64 4 роки тому +2

    sonny u should be doing that new details show not dc

    • @SonnyBrown
      @SonnyBrown  4 роки тому

      haha I wish. I will be watching what DC does though he is awsome.

  • @dimelo2melo961
    @dimelo2melo961 3 роки тому

    Very similar as khabib's style

  • @oneguy7202
    @oneguy7202 4 роки тому +4

    Its really unfair that here in Europe we dont have folkstyle wrestling, at least we have Russian wrestle with bears

    • @falty2580
      @falty2580 4 роки тому

      Freestyle and Greco is even more efficient

    • @aryanfraz9215
      @aryanfraz9215 4 роки тому

      You are not alone :-(

    • @aryanfraz9215
      @aryanfraz9215 4 роки тому

      @@falty2580 nope, folkstyle have the ground controll and greco and freestyle dosent have that so for mma they are not more efficent than folkstyle

  • @BURGAWMMA
    @BURGAWMMA 2 роки тому

    I've been coaching folkstyle wrestling and running MMA clubs for decades... folkstyle wrestling is a mediocre martial art, it's just over-represented in American MMA because it's the only combat sport available for free in the public school system... if freestyle, Greco-Roman, boxing, Muay Thai, Brazilian jiu-jitsu sambo and Judo were available for free in the nation's Public School System things would look very different

    • @SonnyBrown
      @SonnyBrown  2 роки тому +3

      Im not sure if its a mediocre martial art, but I think you could make the argument that being free in public schools allows it to attract a much larger participation rate and then has a wider and tougher field to filter out the absolute best athletes.

    • @BURGAWMMA
      @BURGAWMMA 2 роки тому

      @@SonnyBrown EXACTALLY and don't forget the radically lower liability aspect that allowed coaches to drive harder and the tough competitive nature of interScholastic competition. Nobody gets kicked out of the Brazilian jiu-jitsu team for showing up late or quitting during a match. You don't even have to show up if you don't want to. It's a completely different world.

  • @MrLazenby007
    @MrLazenby007 4 роки тому

    Great work Sonny Brown! You keep raising the bar. But let’s not introduce the word jiu jitsu except to say that Phil Davis adapts none of its philosophy and utilises classic catch wrestling, luta livre, or sub wrestling moves: hammerlock, double wrist lock, and the gator roll. No hybrid mix on display in any of the footage broken down. I imagine Phil has basic knowledge of jiu jitsu tactics and how to nullify them and even apply some of them where absolutely necessary but a jiu jitsu guy he is most certainly not.

    • @SonnyBrown
      @SonnyBrown  4 роки тому

      Thanks mate, I only included the reference to BJJ as I know he had a blue belt and Loyd Irvin used to corner him.

    • @graciederangementsyndrome3669
      @graciederangementsyndrome3669 4 роки тому +1

      @MrLazenby007 Even if BJJ is not relevant to Phil's approach and fighting style, it's a stretch to credit CACC and Luta Livre since Phil Davis never trained in either one.

    • @MrLazenby007
      @MrLazenby007 4 роки тому

      Gracie Derangement Syndrome I guess he never trained at alliance San Diego under then head grappling coach Neil melanson who professes to be a catch guy?

    • @oneguy7202
      @oneguy7202 4 роки тому +2

      @@MrLazenby007 bin already include teachniques from catch and all, no gi is luta livre esportiva with other name

  • @TheVitin7711
    @TheVitin7711 3 роки тому

    Overrated all he does is hug

    • @SonnyBrown
      @SonnyBrown  2 роки тому

      Well that's one way of looking at it 😕