The Massive Space Stations that Protected Planets -- The Golan Line Explained (Star Wars Legends)

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  • Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
  • We cover Golan Defense Platforms, the massive Space Stations that protected planets in Star Wars Legends, on today's Star Wars lore video!
    Gameplay footage via Thrawn's Revenge
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  • @pll3827
    @pll3827 4 роки тому +159

    If I recall, during the Yuuzhan Vong war in Legends, they discovered a cloaked Golan II Defense Platform left at Bilbringi - most likely left behind by Grand Admiral Thrawn as part of some grand plan for the first Battle of Bilbringi.

    • @KMCA779
      @KMCA779 4 роки тому +28

      You have to be impressed with that platform. It lasted something like 20 years with no maintenance, no refueling, no crew and was still combat capable and manageable with a crew smaller than 100. (what happened to that original crew, clone madness?)

    • @pll3827
      @pll3827 4 роки тому +19

      @@KMCA779 Golan Arms produces the highest-quality products. I assumed droids kept it operational, and the crew just left the station without decloaking it for plot reasons.

  • @jmaitland5709
    @jmaitland5709 4 роки тому +322

    Been playing Thrawn's Revenge all day and then this pops up, perfection

    • @anauthentictincan6850
      @anauthentictincan6850 4 роки тому +3

      Min NSMH I was about to start up a game myself 😂

    • @connorinacar9008
      @connorinacar9008 4 роки тому +2

      I’m still learning on the FoC expansion so far I’m juggling planets because I only have one fleet with all my heroes and good ships because why not.

    • @JeanLucCaptain
      @JeanLucCaptain 4 роки тому +10

      YOUR SPACESTATION IS UNDER ATTACK! meh, it's a Golan 3 it can take care of itself.

    • @awkwardarovods
      @awkwardarovods 4 роки тому +1

      When I get a comment that is one that im gon do

    • @cooperk.3560
      @cooperk.3560 4 роки тому +2

      Try the remake mod, it great

  • @Dori-Ma
    @Dori-Ma 4 роки тому +171

    I always assumed Golans had slow hyperdrives that were mothballed once they arrived to their assigned posts.

    • @blackore64
      @blackore64 4 роки тому +28

      I always assumed they were assembled on site.

    • @scarling9367
      @scarling9367 4 роки тому +29

      For their size, I'd say the same. Much like modern manufactured homes. Built then transported to their respective sites. Could even pull the hyperdrive for the next batch.

    • @sethb3090
      @sethb3090 3 роки тому +17

      I kind of figured they'd have removable hyperdrive modules, so if you ever needed to move one you could have a hyperdrive brought in and attached, tow it out of the planet's gravity well, and send it on its way. That would allow for shipping the things without requiring the cost of a permanent hyperdrive, so Golan could just maintain 20 or 30 hyperdrive modules for rent.

    • @topphatt1312
      @topphatt1312 3 роки тому +1

      Lmao I didn’t even think of how tf the things got there hell I didn’t even think about them until a couple days ago when I watched a video about thrawns blockade of courecant (idfk how it’s spelt)

    • @JeanLucCaptain
      @JeanLucCaptain 3 роки тому +5

      ya just strap on a commercial drive you wanted to get rid of anyways, it only needs to make a one way trip.

  • @schmidtyfilms9592
    @schmidtyfilms9592 4 роки тому +177

    Could you cover the legacy era a bit more? I understand alot of people don't care for the legacy era and its lesser known but I always liked how far after it takes place from everything else in starwars.

    • @billclark5055
      @billclark5055 4 роки тому +10

      100% agree. Been saying this

    • @concept5631
      @concept5631 3 роки тому +8

      I think the lack of interest is from how it basically made Anakin's sacrifice meaningless as the Sith eventually come back and resumed their neverending war with the Jedi.

    • @concept5631
      @concept5631 3 роки тому +5

      @@PanzerVII-df8hg I like it.
      I had/have the idea brewing in my head that after Anakin died the force slowly started to fade away with force-wielding individuals becoming rarer and rarer. With both the Jedi and Sith being left in the history books the New Republic and Imperial Remnant (or something like them) would continue the Jedi-Sith conflict in spirit and fight for thousands of years as the Jedi and Sith did.
      That's just my thoughts on the matter tho.

    • @concept5631
      @concept5631 3 роки тому +3

      @@PanzerVII-df8hg I imagine if they did the concept of the force slowly disappearing really, *_really_* well they could pull it off. But we're talking about Lucasfilm here, so its unlikely they could/would pull somethng like that off.

    • @anonymousli4204
      @anonymousli4204 3 місяці тому

      😂 What do you mean a lot of people don't care for legends? I would argue that more people don't care for the actual movies and like legends more.

  • @MightyGalvatron
    @MightyGalvatron 3 роки тому +28

    Imagine a few of these things protected by shields generated from the surface like the second Death Star was. Between planetary shields, defense fleets, surface artillery and orbital platforms, it's no wonder the Emperor needed a superweapon before he could wrest total control from the Senate.

  • @nilok7
    @nilok7 4 роки тому +80

    I wonder if gravity well generators could improve Golan platforms, maybe able to drop ships outside of effective range from hyperspace.

    • @anishbayya2275
      @anishbayya2275 4 роки тому +7

      Just like thawns strategy to use interdictes to get his ships right where he wants then, golans can do the same bringing to enemy right at them

    • @bluerobin2982
      @bluerobin2982 4 роки тому +1

      Thats what grav well stations are for

    • @nilok7
      @nilok7 4 роки тому +8

      @@anishbayya2275 Or in contrast, the Golan's gravity well emitters could be used to to counter Thrawn's strategy by forced the Star Destroyers out of Hyperspace in the wrong place, especially if they were stronger.
      If they were dropped out of Hyperspace next to a friendly Star Destroyer, they could accidentally broadside one of their own thinking that it was the Golan they were supposed to be next to.

    • @nilok7
      @nilok7 4 роки тому +10

      @@Fiber64 You wouldn't want to use the generators during normal traffic, only when you are under attack, or about to be attacked if you get an early warning about an attack from a listening post or an informant.
      So long as the attacking fleet isn't larger than what the Golan platforms could handle, the idea would be to activate the generators once combat has been engaged to prevent additional fleet resources from reinforcing the initial attack.
      Furthermore, preventing a fleet from performing hit and fade attacks would be advantageous, especially since the Rebel Alliance would know how effective those strategies had been up and till now.

    • @anishbayya2275
      @anishbayya2275 4 роки тому +5

      @nilok7, that would be a good idea, but knowing thrawn, he would have other ideas on how to attack the golan, but if all of the sudden There were interdictors without thrawn knowing this, then what you just said summarized what would happen perfectly

  • @sergeantwrath1512
    @sergeantwrath1512 4 роки тому +123

    Alerted by the discord of this video, love the community

  • @hanifloka130
    @hanifloka130 4 роки тому +136

    Eck: "Bilbringi still relied on Golan IIs"
    Me, in TR as the Pentastar Alignment: *buys all three Golans and a Validusia*
    Also me: "UNLIMITED POWER!!"

    • @randomguy-tg7ok
      @randomguy-tg7ok 4 роки тому +13

      Though at the same time a Golan I is weaker than an ISD in TR, and a Golan II is about as powerful as one.

  • @danielbeck2739
    @danielbeck2739 4 роки тому +41

    I grew up with the original 80's series, on VHS no less. I also have the special editions too, needless to say I prefer the 80's overall. But I would definitely agree with some of the effects of the 90's special edition. And I'm going to say this just the vast majority of us would agree, Han shot first.

    • @andrewadams8601
      @andrewadams8601 4 роки тому +1

      Same here. I was still pretty young when the special edition came out and I remember reading about the changes made in Star Wars Insider. Things like the better explosions and digitally added extra starfighters attacking the first Death Star really improved the quality of the movies without being distracting. Some of the added scenes didn't blend so well and were distracting, even back then. Nowadays, my wife and I made a game out of seeing if she can guess which scenes have been added by the difference in special effects used.

  • @KBworker
    @KBworker 4 роки тому +9

    @8:54 So I thought I was one of the few to remember this golden Darth Vader mask box but here it is, in the memory of one of my favorite Star Wars youtubers... I am proud to say that I saved that box from one of my mom's ' cleaning rampages' and to this day it still occupies a prominent position in my bookshelf..

  • @anishbayya2275
    @anishbayya2275 4 роки тому +23

    I can tell you really like the battle of the dreadnoughts, I really wish you can make more of those videos, or even make a second part to the video

  • @TheWingland
    @TheWingland 4 роки тому +155

    What would have happened if UNSC had defeated he covenant forces and captured the forerunner fleet in Halo Wars instead of destroying the ships?. #askeck

    • @wearsjorge55
      @wearsjorge55 4 роки тому +9

      Doubt it would've made a difference. I got 2 theories.
      1. Covenant come back with a larger force, decimate humanity before they can learn anything more
      2. Humanity doesn't end up using the ships as they're unfamiliar with forerunner tech and it would take a long time to assimilate it with their own

    • @pedrokantor3997
      @pedrokantor3997 4 роки тому +1

      Jesus how many times does this question show up? In every video?

    • @EthanThomson
      @EthanThomson 4 роки тому +2

      HOW would they have done it though? The only ship that knew where it was isvthe spirit of fire

    • @commanderpotato5244
      @commanderpotato5244 4 роки тому

      Ethan Thomson グミ Life finds a way

    • @josesanchezrodriguez1783
      @josesanchezrodriguez1783 2 роки тому +3

      @@wearsjorge55 Anders was there and she was an even better Forerunner expert than Halsey, humans were reclaimers too so the ships might have been even easier to use, also Serina was there so she might have been able to control them.

  • @jaqdraco
    @jaqdraco 4 роки тому +12

    Massive space stations!!!!
    Deathstar: Am I a joke to you?

    • @LoLotov
      @LoLotov 3 роки тому

      I'm curious if a deathstar would be large enough to support some of these in orbit... could hold them with a few tractor beams if not. Maybe they could be set into recesses in the outer hull of a deathstar for hyperspace travel, then launched back out and held in orbit when entering combat.

  • @scoman91
    @scoman91 4 роки тому +6

    Oh man, I remember when the gold special editions came out. Those changes just blew my six-year-old mind. My uncle had pretty much raised me and my siblings on the original VHS set and seeing the updated versions were incredible. I'm on the cuts with newer stuff, I don't hate Hayden and I think it makes a little thematic sense since this was who Anakin was in his prime before he discarded his old name and before his got immolated, but the big no I can definitely do without.

  • @user-rr6jj5mr6f
    @user-rr6jj5mr6f 4 роки тому +12

    Planetary shields: can't be easily surpassed
    Eclipse, Death Star and torpedo sphere: ayayayaya

  • @thesharpercoder
    @thesharpercoder 4 роки тому +156

    What type of planetary shield did we see in “Rouge One”? #askeck.
    [EDIT] Who made it, is what I want to know. Do we know? Was it a Golan?

    • @stevenwilliams1805
      @stevenwilliams1805 4 роки тому +11

      Great question, I like to see the answer to.

    • @mason3872
      @mason3872 4 роки тому +31

      Ray shields only block lasers while particle shields block physical objects and weapons such as missiles or starships. Scariff was probably particle shielded.

    • @scarlet_nation001
      @scarlet_nation001 4 роки тому +8

      It’s wiki says it’s a Shield Gate

    • @POTATOEH81
      @POTATOEH81 4 роки тому +8

      @@scarlet_nation001 the shield gate was only the ring shaped space station that opened and closed the entry/exist hole

    • @Dark_Fusion19
      @Dark_Fusion19 4 роки тому +4

      Rogue.

  • @stephenlutz6936
    @stephenlutz6936 4 роки тому +57

    Imperial officer: Golan platforms are great for planetary defenses. I think we should set up dozens around the planet.
    Imperial officer 2: No, no. Let's only set up 2-3, what's the worse that can happen?
    *Enemy fleet with over fifty ships comes out of hyperspace*
    Imperial Officer 2: Crap

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish 4 роки тому +5

      It's 2-3 per section of space, or geosync over important locations on poorer worlds.

    • @JeanLucCaptain
      @JeanLucCaptain 4 роки тому +5

      GERMANY: HANZ JUST GO AROUND THEM!

    • @bladedninja8853
      @bladedninja8853 3 роки тому +4

      I think that's because the Empire was the "police" of the galaxy. They had to be very mobile so they just used more star destroyers as alternatives.

  • @angry_eck
    @angry_eck 4 роки тому +8

    as a kid I watched phantom menace like at least once a week and I had the original trilogy on DVD aswell and my dad told me about him going to see the movies in theaters so that's my nostalgia

  • @cd5sircoupe
    @cd5sircoupe 4 роки тому +26

    Regarding the Ask Eck: Man I was so hyped to see each of the Star Wars SE movies in the theaters when they came out. I grew up with a mismatched set of 80s VHS runs of the OT, supplemented with a behind the scenes documentary on the special effects. I was like the only kid I knew at school that had seen the original ANH Jabba scene with the Scottish actor before it got put in the SE version.

  • @j.tastic9132
    @j.tastic9132 4 роки тому +4

    I got my dad an old vhs set for his birthday of the original editions a while back. First time I saw the original mos eisley shot I had to do a double take. It was just so different from the scene I had seen a million times before.

  • @mohammadkhan-dk6ep
    @mohammadkhan-dk6ep 4 роки тому +45

    2 Umbaran MHC's (Star Wars) vs Covenant Scarab (Halo)

    • @nobleman9393
      @nobleman9393 4 роки тому +1

      Oh Yeah!

    • @pedrokantor3997
      @pedrokantor3997 4 роки тому +2

      I'd wager that the MHC could take on a Scarab in an one-on-one fight. No need for two.

    • @CainTheOverlord
      @CainTheOverlord 4 роки тому +2

      Scarab should win, it is superior to Star Wars walkers in just about every way.

    • @coolstuff1959
      @coolstuff1959 4 роки тому +2

      Umbran weapons were electrified plasma guns far superior to mainstream weaponry

    • @billclark5055
      @billclark5055 4 роки тому +1

      Scarab wins no doubt. They'd need at least 4 to stand a chance. How about Umaran MHC vs AT-AT.

  • @Ddnmddnn
    @Ddnmddnn 4 роки тому +30

    How to defend a planet??
    SEND THE IMPERIAL GUARDS

  • @_JayRamsey_
    @_JayRamsey_ 4 роки тому +2

    Omfg, Vader saying, "noooooo!" before saving Luke is just the worst.

  • @jetoak
    @jetoak 4 роки тому +2

    I'm not certain if someone else have said this before, but the Shield Gate that was used to defend Sacrif was known as a Golan M1385 as mentioned in The Rebel Files.
    It's defenses were not was prominent as the dedicated defense platforms in this video, since the installation had only turbolasers. My speculation is opening and closing the shield access point likely draws lots of power, which is why there was an obvious escort of star destroyers stationed around the gate.

  • @bigbitehood1353
    @bigbitehood1353 4 роки тому +1

    I grew up on the '97 special edition too!! Basically everything you said, I agree with

  • @leynadrebout1027
    @leynadrebout1027 4 роки тому +3

    #AskEck Have there been Jedi, outside video games, who primarily used force techniques as a weapon instead of lightsabers? We see dark siders do this, like Mother Talzan and also Sidious seems to prefer force powers to lightsabers, but I can’t think of a Jedi who has done it to a large extent.

  • @jasonkrynicky3170
    @jasonkrynicky3170 4 роки тому +2

    7:30 putting hyperdrives in a golan would make it easier for a tiny boarding party to steal it...by gaining control and then jumping away

  • @TheMrPits
    @TheMrPits 4 роки тому

    My first copy of Star Wars was recorded off CBC TV on VHS in the early 80's. My copy had short Canadian commercials stuck in between different scenes that still occasionally slip into my memory when re-watching new copies. Honestly, it's all apart of the nostalgia for me, especially since the recording was done off an antenna onto an old VHS. I would pause and slow trac that thing so much looking at explosions frame by frame, I wonder today if that VHS would even play on an old VCR. Was also a different time, when CBC could broadcast a movie that was fairly recent without a ton of issues.

  • @toby1061
    @toby1061 3 роки тому +3

    Honestly if I had to defend courasaunt, I would have 6 Gilman defense platforms, 25 Orbital defense platforms, 5 Victory 2 Star destroyers, 400 venators, 16 ISDs, and 1 executor.

  • @toverkleet
    @toverkleet 4 роки тому

    Never could wrap my head around how they looked. Cool video ^^

  • @LiliaArmoury
    @LiliaArmoury 4 роки тому +2

    with the special editions i love what they did on bespin

  • @jameskandosii240
    @jameskandosii240 3 роки тому +2

    I used to play my own sort of table top game with starwars as a kid with my friends. We used Wookiepedia as a reference and my friends never understood why I wanted to own Golan Arms until I researched lvl 3 Golans and nobody could touch my planets.

  • @vaelophisnyx9873
    @vaelophisnyx9873 4 роки тому +5

    dreadnought idea: a bunch of Golan 3s welded together and given the gift of movement by bits of Moncal scrap

  • @ZoeMalDoran
    @ZoeMalDoran 4 роки тому

    The thing with ship weapons in the Saga Edition Star Wars sourcebooks can be confusing at times - most capital ships are given half the weapons they were listed with in earlier sources (some conversions from earlier games forgot to do that because they either weren't told the reason why or they forgot).
    The reason is that unlike the previous d20 Star Wars RPG, Saga Edition didn't use firing arcs. Instead the game designers worked on the assumption that a capital ship or large space station could bring a maximum of half its guns to bear on a single target, so that's what was listed in the ships' stats.

  • @RedJet-bq6fq
    @RedJet-bq6fq 4 роки тому

    Interesting. Star Wars space stations always fascinated me

  • @oldtimefarmboy617
    @oldtimefarmboy617 4 роки тому

    Having a hyperdrive of any sort would be a necessity since defense platforms would be more efficiently built at a fixed construction facility then moved to the planet or other location where the purchaser wants it. Then if the need for the defense platform goes away, it could be sold and the new owner could move it to where they want it. Since rapid deployment would not be necessary, unlike a battle ship, getting there is more important than getting there quickly.

  • @johnathancorlett2410
    @johnathancorlett2410 2 роки тому

    There are VHS copies of the original cinema versions that were released as special editions in the 80s or 90s, they’re pretty cool to see

  • @hanifloka130
    @hanifloka130 3 роки тому +1

    A Golan III and Validusia are pretty much all you need (correct me if I'm wrong) to defend a system from medium sized fleets in Thrawn's Revenge. I defended Sluis Van with just those against a New Republic fleet of two Home One type MC80s and a few smaller ships. The defenses annihilated the fleet, only missing one MC80 that escaped just in time, but was badly damaged.

  • @battlefieldcustoms873
    @battlefieldcustoms873 4 роки тому

    I have been watching Armada videos all day and this pops up, *this is where the fun begins*

  • @Asko83
    @Asko83 4 роки тому

    I remember a note in the Thrawn trilogy where, I think it was Lando, a character talks about the timing of a pirate attack being done so that the defense stations aren't near the target. And a later book by Zahn has a mention about the Golan platforms (and now I can't be certain of the exact words since it has been a while since I read it) lazily circling the planet Muuninlist. So my impression is that the Golan stations would not be geo-synchronous and that is it possible for a fast & small force to reach a planet by flying past them, but that the main point of the stations would be to defend planets from major attacks and in that case they would likely be able to move to intercept enemy fleets. And of course if a Golan is placed to defend a space station (like an orbital dock or something) then you can just park it near that target, but planets being what we scientists call "large" it simply isn't worth it to try to dot the orbit with space stations. As for having a hyperdrive in a Golan... If the only time you plan to move it from one system to another is when it is delivered to the customer after being built, then having a hyperdrive attached permanently might not be worth it. Using a tug or even a detachable drive (if you have a company that produces these stations, you could make a dedicated "Golan-transporter" to move them to where they are needed) is going to save a lot of money and remove a part that would need more maintenance over the years while doing nothing. The later Golan's having hyperdrives might imply that either hyperdrives are so cheap that they can just stick one on a station or the tactics regarding the stations have changed and perhaps moving them between planets as needed (blurring the line between a ship and a space station) could be more common than before.

  • @kreshes7381
    @kreshes7381 4 роки тому

    Me too grew up on VHS films and i was unpleasantly surprised to see psychedelic partyhard in Jabba's palace in "special" RotJ

  • @anonymousli4204
    @anonymousli4204 3 місяці тому

    8:14 I think the only reason why we don't see ships shooting further than line of sight in the movies is because it wouldn't look good on film. They actually do shoot really far. One time in the beginning of Empire strikes back with the ion cannon but other than that, you don't really see them shooting that far.
    Obviously they can. 2 golans at opposite ends of a planet can defend it from 360°.

  • @Aw12ish.
    @Aw12ish. 4 роки тому

    This is what iv been missing so much

  • @evancanfield5354
    @evancanfield5354 4 роки тому +8

    The second ensign uprising shall begin

  • @christiankirkenes5922
    @christiankirkenes5922 4 роки тому

    YES!!!!, I had the silver edition because in the words of my father "widescreen will never take off, you lose too much viewing area with the top and bottom bar" -Typed on my widescreen computer monitor

  • @suddenshotty
    @suddenshotty 4 роки тому

    Looks like I grew up the same way as yourself, I also now work on films, haven't done Star Wars yet, but had some credits in some Marvel films.
    Whenever I go back to watch the original 6, due to watching them so much as a kid I can basically recite them as they play ( Some parts down to the individual sound effects).

  • @scullystie4389
    @scullystie4389 4 роки тому

    I got some serious nostalgia hearing you talk about the gold VHS special edition set. I watched those so many times I wore the ESB tape out.

  • @gabrielbarba7434
    @gabrielbarba7434 4 роки тому +2

    9:27 yeah me too haha I used to know it line for line

  • @brianjohnson5272
    @brianjohnson5272 4 роки тому

    My favorite large battle tactic in EAW is as the imperials to hold a interdiction cruiser until late fight and as the enemy begins to break drop it in behind my lines and hit the GWG at 2 seconds before hyperspace jump. It gives a lovely 8 seconds of cheap shots.

  • @pwnorbepwned
    @pwnorbepwned 4 роки тому

    Wow Eck, no lie, your description of your childhood with these movies is identical to my own. I have nothing to add to that. ^_^

  • @MyGamer125
    @MyGamer125 3 роки тому

    Had a dream about a variant of these a while back. I called it the Golan-SL. Basically, it was a Golan III with a mini Death Star Super Laser. Probably wouldn’t work, but it still seems more practical than a Death Star, and they could probably shew through fleets with ease

  • @prometheus8010
    @prometheus8010 4 роки тому

    I feel you should do a breakdown of the best and worst parts of Space stations across Star Wars time. And what you would want it to look like and do. If you do decide to do this can you include the space station in the old republic trailer over koraban

  • @naoltitude9516
    @naoltitude9516 4 роки тому +3

    This is gonna be a spicy one!

  • @ultramategamer6428
    @ultramategamer6428 4 роки тому

    Just to say, one of the best changes is that the victory scene in a new hope originally had a lot of people replaced with cardboard statues, they changed it so it was all people and no cardboard statues.

  • @darthhodges
    @darthhodges 4 роки тому

    Official DVD versions (not 4k but it's the best you can get) of the theatrical versions were released in 2006, I think, but they didn't make a lot of copies so they can be hard to find. I haven't seen it but I hear they are the true original theatricals where A New Hope doesn't even say "Episode IV: A New Hope". My VHS copy of A New Hope I grew up with had the subtitle as in the 1979 theater rerelease.

  • @Kais101010
    @Kais101010 3 роки тому

    Hahaha I grew up on the silver edition 🤣, and the same, watch them almost every weekend growing up

  • @zarander
    @zarander 4 роки тому

    Good old Golan space defense platforms. Stackpole liked using them.

  • @Dan_Crampton
    @Dan_Crampton 4 роки тому +1

    What's the other game you show footage of? It looks pretty awesome! Wouldn't mind having a look at it myself 🙂

  • @karlodeluna7077
    @karlodeluna7077 4 роки тому

    Yess! Been curious about Defense Platforms for a while now.
    I’m kinda desperate to get the NR Navy ranks explained, I’m an avid reader of the EU but I always get annoyed and sometimes confused with the Ranks in the Navy.

  • @patrickdonovan2323
    @patrickdonovan2323 4 роки тому

    Just got off a lucky defense of my dreadnought shipyard at yaga minor as the pentastar, no defending fleets, and I got attacked by 8 capital ships, managed to hold them off due to a 3rd party, sure wish I had those Golan 3s

  • @cameronmacdonald635
    @cameronmacdonald635 4 роки тому +4

    #AskEck
    What if Golan defence platforms were used to defend Earth or Reach from a Covenant fleet instead of (or in addition to) Mac platforms?

    • @nobleman9393
      @nobleman9393 4 роки тому +2

      Eck has to answer that.

    • @johnverick-smith9794
      @johnverick-smith9794 4 роки тому +1

      We would have lost a lot sooner. Both times. Covenant shielding and armor is highly resistant to purely energy based weapons. The UNSCs only advantage is the sheer kinetic energy imparted to the shields and armor. Anything else is more easily absorbed and dissipated.

    • @pedrokantor3997
      @pedrokantor3997 4 роки тому +1

      @@johnverick-smith9794 Then why is it easier to penetrate Elite's shield with energy weapons if they are so resistant to energy based weapons? Even the Jackel shields will overload with enough energy blasts, while being pratically impervious to UNSC small arms fire. Even the UNSC sniper rifle can't penetrate Jackal shielding. You're just wrong I'm afraid.

    • @musashimcclellan681
      @musashimcclellan681 4 роки тому +2

      @@pedrokantor3997 He was talking about ship grade weaponry, the super MAC has enough kinetic energy to destroy all but the biggest ships in a single shot. The MAC would be more effective than turbolasers.

    • @johnverick-smith9794
      @johnverick-smith9794 4 роки тому

      @@pedrokantor3997 did you even read the post? Or did you want to just say UNSC sux. Because he was talking about the weapons they use in space which frankly operate at ridiculously faster velocities than any small arms ever could. That was the question. The ground battles weren't even mentioned in the video or the question. Also halo 4 introduced the handheld railgun. I can blast jackals all day long with that. Thank you and have a good day sir.

  • @darthhodges
    @darthhodges 4 роки тому

    I basically agree with you on the Special Editions. I grew up watching the theatricals on VHS (I was 13 when the Special Editions came out) and overall I liked the Special Editions but I didn't love every change. They screwed up Han shooting Greedo but I actually prefer "Yub Nub" over the Special Edition ROTJ ending music (the new visuals are nice, though). Other changes they made since 1997 I am also mixed on. Rerecording Boba Fett's voice bothered me, not that they did it but it sounds like they chose bad takes. I can't blame the actor as I've seen him act outside of Star Wars, he is capable. Having Boba sound like Jango makes sense but they at least could have done it well.

  • @IRMentat
    @IRMentat 4 роки тому

    Yub nub 4ever!
    I can appreciate alternate cuts, gods knows there are movies that I would kill for alternate edits of, e.g. a chronological captain marvel re-edit.
    I vastly prefer when the original media is not screwed with after launch. I remember buying butterfly effect and the dvd ending was different to the one I saw in he cinema, thematic but irritating, that’s amplified when the original cut is not so much as available as packaged in extras so the ONLY available option is a fan-edit based on a conglomeration of 5-6 different media sources (most other franchises could never build up the support to even get that level of professionalism put into a fan work).

  • @vitorkennedy1862
    @vitorkennedy1862 4 роки тому +1

    Golan III is my favorite, with them Coruscant is the most well protected world in the Galaxy

  • @bradhedgehog12
    @bradhedgehog12 4 роки тому +2

    Bro. I remember them Badass Stations all too well. In Star Wars X wing alliance.

  • @cellianexurianity5021
    @cellianexurianity5021 4 роки тому

    Eck, im not sure if this is a dumb question of mine, but would there be anything you would like to cover over cartoon network's 2003 clone wars, lore wise? It does have some tidbits that might interest you. Some things such as the nelvaanian race. The giant green battle platforms the separatists used, or more, like how the force works underwater like kit fisto demonstrated

  • @justinlast2lastharder749
    @justinlast2lastharder749 2 роки тому

    Why a Golan can be Sturdier than a Star Destroyer: The only Engines it has are those it needs to stay in Orbit. That's a whole lot of extra power for Shields and Weaponry compared to a Star Destroyer. Not needing to move allows for thicker Armor as well.

  • @heavyarms55
    @heavyarms55 4 роки тому

    I really like this video! I would love you to do more videos on various pieces of equipment in Star Wars! Reminds me of your old ship breakdowns. But your quality is much better now!
    As for Special editions, I think we are all going to like the version we grew up with. And I grew up with the same version you did. I almost always picked a Star Wars movie when my parents let me rent a movie. It makes me wonder why they didn't just buy the trilogy for so long, since I must have rented the movies at least 20 times each.

  • @Werrf1
    @Werrf1 3 роки тому

    Re. Hyperdrives - I'd imagine that there was some kind of hyper-capable tug that would be able to attach to the station at some point to move it through hyperspace, similar to the hyperdrive rings that the Jedi starfighters would attach to in the Prequel era. Something like the Class Four container transports we saw in Rebels; attach a handful of those to various points on the station and hyper it to wherever it's going, then detach and use the ships for other duties.
    I kind of hate the idea of a defensive fortification with a hyperdrive. History tells us that if you give something a capability, _somebody_ is going to make use of it. That's how you ended up with battlecruisers engaging dreadnoughts at the Battle of Jutland, resulting in the famous line "There seems to be something wrong with our bloody ships today" as battlecruiser #3 blew up. It doesn't make any sense to equip a vessel with a hyperdrive if it's never expected to need one, and it's just begging some bright spark of a CO to decide to "improvise" by going and attacking some pirates next door, leaving a critical system with a gap in its defences.

  • @timderoche7838
    @timderoche7838 4 роки тому

    I still have my trilogy on VHS before they made those changes, still love watching that trooper hit his head on the door lol

  • @sempermilites87
    @sempermilites87 4 роки тому

    I actually have the OG Original ones in VHS. Where Han did shot first and where Jabba was a human stand in until Lucas thought of an actual creature. I don't have a VHS player nor do I want to actually play them in fear of damaging them. Not sure how much they are worth now.

  • @DavidP089
    @DavidP089 4 роки тому

    I think I'd want a couple Lucrehulk battleships to defend my planet. Those things were nasty strong.

  • @ThieflyChap
    @ThieflyChap 4 роки тому

    I grew up on the original originals, the non-special editions we had taped off of the telly, and I can say honestly I prefer the newer ending music of RotJ, and the 'Han shot first' debate has never bothered me. He was going to shoot Greedo anyway, so whether he pulled the trigger first or not is irrelevant to me. I do agree that the originals need to be released on DVD/Blu-Ray.

  • @CvlturedSage
    @CvlturedSage 2 роки тому

    These are probably the most (in terms of physics) the most realistic ships in all of Star Wars.

  • @siva4wotblitzhero531
    @siva4wotblitzhero531 4 роки тому +1

    Before I saw an actual Image of a Golan Defense Platform I thought it was Spherical like a Deathstar but much,much smaller and just Turbolasers and Point Defense Weapons

  • @LegendaryJew
    @LegendaryJew 3 роки тому

    The Golan on planet earth has a great distillery, hope these stations had one too

  • @vodeankandosii3982
    @vodeankandosii3982 4 роки тому

    Liked for "Yub Nub" and the perfect delivery of it. :)

  • @sisnoXsisnosis
    @sisnoXsisnosis 4 роки тому

    I grew up on that gold box as well!

  • @samuelvoegelin7249
    @samuelvoegelin7249 4 роки тому +4

    #AskEck Hey love the videos, here is my question. During the Battle of Felucia during the Clone Wars, we see it change hands throughout the three years of the war. Can you explain how and why this was such a huge slog other than the plants?

  • @justinvanvolkenburg5298
    @justinvanvolkenburg5298 4 роки тому +1

    Any plans to do some RPG entries for the various ships you and the various designers brought back?

  • @mjohnsimon1337
    @mjohnsimon1337 4 роки тому

    Red Team vs Ghost Crew.
    MJOLNIR Armor vs the best Plot Armor Disney has to offer... may the battle commence!
    #askeck

  • @samspeed6271
    @samspeed6271 4 роки тому

    Quite an interesting video about the Golan, it's just a shame you can't capture them in Thrawn's Revenge.
    In the remastered version of RotJ, I found the new music inside Jabba's Palace is a little too much in my face for my liking. And 'nub nub' is such a sweet tune, it just fits the scene of the Ewoks celebrating their victory over the Empire with their new Rebel friends so we'll.
    I grew up with the original VHS releases of Empire and Jedi, it's what I watched so many times in my childhood.
    But I'll tell you one thing the Disney versions of the films miss: the 20th century fanfare. It's such a small thing that makes a big difference, the drum roll is an integral part of the Star Wars theme that everyone seems to ignore, but to me it never feels right without it.

  • @marty2129
    @marty2129 4 роки тому +7

    "...we are talking about a smaller aspect of the Star Wars universe" - proceeds to talk about +2 km size of heavy orbital defence platforms...
    Also, holy smokes, we are probably the same age and got to Star Wars probably at the same time...

  • @LoneWolf20213
    @LoneWolf20213 4 роки тому +1

    I am a man who like's flexable ship's, but thisline is special as I think I would have a series of these in my blockade to protect my planets in a support fleet

  • @zarander
    @zarander 4 роки тому

    The X-wing novel stats were different to what the video said. I remember Stackpole saying the G2s were the equivalent of an Impstar.

  • @low-key5341
    @low-key5341 4 роки тому

    Nice job Eckhart. Great video mate!

  • @redpandarampage2191
    @redpandarampage2191 4 роки тому

    Golan III platforms are OP in the Sins of a Solar Empire Star Wars mod. And I agree that Victory Celebration is miles better than Yub Nub.

  • @jamiegodwin3070
    @jamiegodwin3070 4 роки тому

    I found a boxed set of the original trilogy on VHS in a drawer the other day; not entirely how to watch them anymore though.

  • @toby1061
    @toby1061 3 роки тому +1

    I always get bum rushed by the new republic before even having Golan 1

  • @lightspeedvictory
    @lightspeedvictory 4 роки тому +1

    #askeck which type of deflector shielding is a more effective form of protection: a bubble-like field that’s constantly active or when the hull is struck, sensors in the armor trigger nearby generators that trigger a transient energy field localized in the area?
    Video suggestion/request:
    X-83 Twintail vs. Tie Defender (Legends)

  • @theQuickining
    @theQuickining 4 роки тому +1

    I also have the gold VHS version of the star wars trilogy my brother has the original VHS star wars trilogy but I no longer have a VCR to watch them

  • @SubayAdamm2
    @SubayAdamm2 4 роки тому +1

    When i play Thrawn's Revenge, i just spam Golan III (i just built 3-4 Golan's to Coruscant lmao)

    • @Erolsaurus
      @Erolsaurus 3 роки тому

      I built a golan 3 on bilbringi because it was my only shipyard planet.

  • @LibraMiku271
    @LibraMiku271 4 роки тому

    That's surprising that Golen defense platforms took form during the Clone Wars particularly the Golan 1 then Golan 2 & 3 used after the Battle of Endor in Legends.

  •  4 роки тому

    What about the Geostationary Lagrange Points? Earth has them, including the moon, it creates a perfectly distanced ring of space stations so that a surprise attack on the planet would not be so easy and because they are geostationary, planetary ground guns can always have sight of them for support, so the stations themselves don’t need as many capital ship guns and related weaponry, and instead focus on tractor and interdiction tech to keep the capital ships in range of the much stronger planetary guns protected by the planetary shields and the stations themselves allowing for stronger glass cannon types of ground guns to be used therefore protecting the space stations more who already have diverted capital gun space to extra shields and stronger hulls

  • @terryosborne272
    @terryosborne272 4 роки тому

    I have original box set of Star Wars Trilogy as the films were released. You can get them if you look. I have the Executor Tin Box set that was released just before the Special Released box films.

  • @good7bad13
    @good7bad13 4 роки тому +1

    #AskEck what if Ghidorah from King of the monsters was to crash land on Curascant during the clone wars?

  • @a.p.e.x3195
    @a.p.e.x3195 2 роки тому

    I havent read any legends material except for the new character encyclopedia ( the one that only goes to episode two)

  • @jeffrutledge4824
    @jeffrutledge4824 4 роки тому

    Hell just give every planet its own deathstar type station.oh yeah shield the exhaust vent.

  • @Code_Exodus
    @Code_Exodus 4 роки тому

    The additional tweaks really should be a enable or disable option in DVD extras.

  • @niallwood
    @niallwood 4 роки тому

    this was surprisingly interesting