A motorcycle being criticized for having a "too sophisticated" suspension. That's a first for me, and frankly ridiculous. Almost as bad as the AI-generated voiceover.
The suspension isn't new at all, it is well proven and used across many bikes. That's good. The "new" aero stuff works fantastic at cool weather, like 52 F and rain you'll really miss it if it is gone. Warm, not so much. I like it as I ride all year 50F and up.
As an avid motorcycle rider and racer for over 40 years, I find your assessment of the Mandello extremely odd. Once broken in the engine is quite magnificent, it has all the power you could want for the type of bike it is. Handling is wonderful and the Ohlins does a fantastic job once it is set up properly. Brakes are great, The quickshifter does need some improvement, mine only has an issue going from 1st to 2nd, the rest while not perfect every time is acceptable. I understand Moto Guzzi has addressed this issue in the 2024 models making changes to the clutch. I do not feel the shaft drive issue you speak of, I have owned 38 bikes, currently I also have a Tuono 1100 Factory (Most amazing machine) and a Multistrada v4s, and a few others. I find the V100 to be almost the perfect bike, I enjoy it so much I ordered a new Stelvio. I will say when pushed extremely hard the bike is out of its comfort zone, but after all it's not a hyper naked. I actually prefer the Manello over the Multistrada V4.
Agree 100% with everything you said. I use the clutch for the 1-2 upshift but the quickshifter is fine for all others. The engine and gearbox need a couple thousand km's to break in but after that it's game on. And I wonder how many reviewers realize that full engine power is not available until after the bike has received its first dealer service?
@@kingkrimson8771 Yah the 1-2 shift is rough but the rest is great. Didnt realise about the full power mode after first service?? got mine in next week so looking forward to getting those revs up.
Agreed, it's a beautiful machine, which will only get better and smoother over time. I wonder if the tester is really only used to 150hp hyper sports fours or similar. I personally think they are a breath of fresh air.
My V100S has 6K on it and revs really quick for a twin. Gear box is now snikitty great. I never use the quick shifter. Drive a broken-in bike, please. Four strokes are really tight new. I have zero issues with power anywhere but it is indeed lively above 4K. I feel no shaft effect at all compared to my R100RT, zero. It amazes me people gaslight the standard crap about Guzzi, and this is a long shot from a standard Guzzi. I love the fact that the V100S is so versatile and easy to live with. Tour, commuter, light sport? Yes, yes and yes. Pefect? No, the suspension although good is tight on square edge bumps. That's the Ohlin's not the bike. Needs storage crannies and a bigger dash. The brake dive is 100% user adjustable. So adjust it for less if that's your thing. Easy to do.
Granted, a 31 year old BMWR100RT compared to the Mandello V100S is kind of harsh. But, I could not find a shaft drive twin that was "modern" until Guzzi made the V100S. This was a take my money PLEASE purchase. Few things I buy are as spot-on as this MG V100S. It has the spunk of my 1979 CB70F and the legs of the BMW but more of both than either! The wind protection is more than good enough with a GIVI touring fairing. It is near perfect to still make you feel "out there" and not covered up in plastic. The tank wings WORK. Sorry, they are not gimmicky. Run at 48 degrees in rain mist and wind awhile and turn them in and then tell me they don't work. You'll wish the hell you didn't turn them in! Want more air in the summer? Easy, then you turn them in. I love the wings. I set the throttle to SPORT in the TOUR mode as it is more immediate, like a carburetor bike is. The drive by wire is soft at the initial opening for some reason and feels anemic. SPORT throttle response cures most of that squishyness. Being off the BMW I really notice this, still. My transmission still has a firm engagement, but it doesn't JERK anymore. It's worked that out but not the heavy CLUNK, that's still "audible" but you don't jump foreward a foot anymore if the brakes aren't applied. I also never use the quick shifter as I do it better myself. Oh I tested it and it is a second gear on up thing for sure, and is fine. I just like to shift. This bike has been needed in the market for like fifteen years! WTF everyone? Better, it is a bulls-eye on the requirements except a few niggles. The Guzzi makes a UJM seem like a specialist bike it is so good at what it does everywhere.
I'm glad I didn't watch this review before I bought my white v100. I've put 5,300 miles on mine in 6 months and I really like it. First time I watched this guy and he is a big whiner, he sucks.
lol...gave me the same impression! I ordered a v100 s after seeing almost all the reviews on youtube and after testing the bike from the dealer. 99% of the reviews are very positive!
Did you seriously throw that beautiful brand new motorcycle down on the ground just so you could get that ridiculous shot at 3:22? Or was it a case of being as bad a rider as you are a reviewer and you just crashed it and shot a picture before you picked it up? Egad man. Bad form.
An absolutely wonderful motorcycle! The engine is truly awesome. It gets better and better the more miles you ride it. Mine is the Aviazone Navale and comes with the just right options and price.
I just test rode the Mandello S. There was nothing old-fashioned about the bike. The tech works and the bike is beautiful. We were doing well above the posted speed around sharp curves and long sweepers. The only point of your review that made some sense is that the quick shifter was clunky 1st to 2nd, but then again so is my R1250GS. Listening to your review, I wondered if we were on the same bike. Yet at the end, you recommend it?!?!
I seriously think these bikes will become a classic in years to come. Almost like a hit song thats ahead of its time, and only appreciated later on down the track.
Honest reviewer! What a joke. This is honestly one of the worst reviews of a motorbike that I have come across. I just could not relate this to the bike I have come to love over the past 10000 miles. Has the reviewer even ridden the bike?
It does come with a power socket under the seat. You can also buy a second power socket for $30 (AUD) that takes 2 minutes to install into the dash cluster.
There was a lot I have to disagree with I bought a base due in part to your assessment and after 4000 miles of riding and tweaking I could not get the bike to stay planted in aggressive sport riding conditions. I ended up trading for an “S” because I liked everything else about the bike and the Ohlins system in my opinion transformed the bike. I owned a KTM SDGT for 5 years and the V100 S handles better in tight fast twisties in my opinion. So if the rider is going to meander then the base is fine but if you are looking for a destination bike that gets to the advanced stuff in comfort, I recommend the “S” with the Ohlins semi active. The QS works perfectly from 3rd to 6 th and I use it on every ride to get to high gear quickly and seamlessly With 5000 total miles on a V100 I find the bike to be a very enjoyable mount when one has to travel to get to great roads and doesn’t want to use a trailer.
I guess not everyone likes every product so I think I will put this review down to the bike not being to your taste. It would be pointless to take apart your review piece by piece so I will comment on the bit you got right. The quick shifter and gear change are poor on new machines however after you get some miles on the bike things improve, my bike now has 5000 miles on it and the whole gearbox experience os much improved .
For many motorcycle testers, once they see the shaft drive, they’ll claim they can feel the drive shaft effect before they even sit on it, never mind riding it. I’ve been riding shaft drive bikes for over 45 years and am still waiting to experience this drive shaft effect. But I’m sure any day now, I’ll get the full experience.
Please neve ride a Guzzi from the 70s or 80s. I can't imagine how you'd describe one. Life would be so boring if every bike had a near perfect honda gearbox and a hyabusa motor. It's just not what a Guzzi is about. Some get it, some don't.
This concept thing at the start just made me laugh. It's a new platform I agree but concept? This bike is from Piaggio group which also has Aprilia and I am almost sure that top notch. engineers were assigned to the project. Where is this bike vintage? Because it does not look like transformer or insect?
Guzzi exhaust music way better but lacks BMWs reliability
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wonderful review... I am looking to replace my city only W650 Cafe racer (looks do matter) with something more road biased to tickle my will to ride bigger distances. This one is on top of my list.
@@Otto-AutoPilot I agree. The Stevio isn't about being a top tier adventure bike it's about being better adapted to carry luggage and having more room on the bike. Not in love with the new WC motor I'm leaning towards the 2024 V85TT for that reason but I haven't completely ruled out the Stelvio.
Somehow it seems besides the bad things on the bike you are looking for the negatives in the positives and this sounds like whining. Weird way of making a review. I am wondering what is you day to day bike!
there are channels that makes "review" videos through other reviews and spec sheets, without even having the bike. your thumbnails, which are stock photo of the bike with white background and text, makes it seem like you are one of them. you have great footage troughout gorgeous places, consider making your thumbnails with your shots. black and nontextured regular font in front of solid yellow rectangle is also makes it looks like a low-effort video. all this and low view figures may make people think it is a content-farm channel, when they see it on their recommendations. aand what's with the different voice in your earliest video i can see (f 850 gs one) is it ai? was that your own voice but, this is ai? are you using fiver voice actors? new sub btw
Define stiff. On square edge stuff it is stiff, but not on everything else. It just can't seem to absorb harsh kicks real well. Even set as light as the comopession will go doesn't work. I'm 150 pounds, so the spring is too high a spring rate for me. If I adjust the spring lighter, the damping will be a notch gain too "tight" on square edge bumps. The valving range seems to be the problem. I'm no expert but is is a good suspension most of the time. But in no way will I say it is a magic carpet on square edge stuff.
On the bike, you can adjust the ride settings of each mode, rain settings in Sport mode and anti-skid settings in 4 modes. Since the bike responds to the throttle in sport mode 1 traction control 1 really sharply, I suspect that the sport mode settings of the bike you tested are set incorrectly.
I agree. My V100S is 100% adjutsabel to suit your needs. I set the throttle to "sport" but leave the rest alone in "tour". The sport throttle (engine) feels more like a carburator to me, faster response. But hell, go in there and adjust it and stop whinning. Sure I hated the rdie by wire at first, but adjusted it to suit, now no problems.
And I’m not after a tourer with extreme performance. Seating is important and the pillion was much loved by my wife when we tried the bike last summer. If I want to drive faster and have some fun in the twisties I use my Speed Twin 1200. The other option for me and my wife is a Tiger 900GT and yes it is a better bike than the Mandello on dirt roads and. Badly paved roads. Sold my Tracer 9GT as that almost gave me a heart attack on the way to a beach together with my friend. The electronics really had to work hard. Might be the tires that come as standard are bad. Nooo I would never drive hard on a dirt road with my Speed Twin. Had I wanted to I would have bought a Scrambler. Well well, by this summer the 1200 will get joined by a tourer of some sort.
As always to the point. My impressions of riding the Moto Guzzi were that they were not "classics" but simply outdated motorcycles. In what region did you make this film?
Outdated? Seriously? This bike was too long in coming after awkward ADV bikes. It is plenty modern. Mileage I get 52-54 MPH on mine all the time, 6K milke average is over 50 MPG mixed. Complain about the grip? There is a dedicated toggle in the display, and a few click and you are there. How many individual buttons do you want and for what? Good grief. Mirrors being weird? They work and are dead clear view behind. Not too big or small, just fine. My god man, the mirrors? This bike is hugely lighter feeling than the BMW 1250 varients, not the same bike. One loves being ridden used everywhere, he other mostly loves the Interstate. I drove them both. I sold a R100RT, so yes I started with a BMW but the new ones lost me. Way too big and heavy.
A motorcycle being criticized for having a "too sophisticated" suspension. That's a first for me, and frankly ridiculous. Almost as bad as the AI-generated voiceover.
The suspension isn't new at all, it is well proven and used across many bikes. That's good.
The "new" aero stuff works fantastic at cool weather, like 52 F and rain you'll really miss it if it is gone. Warm, not so much. I like it as I ride all year 50F and up.
You forgot to mention it's best feature, it isn't a BMW.
Or a hog.
As an avid motorcycle rider and racer for over 40 years, I find your assessment of the Mandello extremely odd. Once broken in the engine is quite magnificent, it has all the power you could want for the type of bike it is. Handling is wonderful and the Ohlins does a fantastic job once it is set up properly. Brakes are great, The quickshifter does need some improvement, mine only has an issue going from 1st to 2nd, the rest while not perfect every time is acceptable. I understand Moto Guzzi has addressed this issue in the 2024 models making changes to the clutch. I do not feel the shaft drive issue you speak of, I have owned 38 bikes, currently I also have a Tuono 1100 Factory (Most amazing machine) and a Multistrada v4s, and a few others. I find the V100 to be almost the perfect bike, I enjoy it so much I ordered a new Stelvio. I will say when pushed extremely hard the bike is out of its comfort zone, but after all it's not a hyper naked. I actually prefer the Manello over the Multistrada V4.
Agree 100% with everything you said. I use the clutch for the 1-2 upshift but the quickshifter is fine for all others. The engine and gearbox need a couple thousand km's to break in but after that it's game on. And I wonder how many reviewers realize that full engine power is not available until after the bike has received its first dealer service?
@@kingkrimson8771 Yah the 1-2 shift is rough but the rest is great. Didnt realise about the full power mode after first service?? got mine in next week so looking forward to getting those revs up.
Agreed, it's a beautiful machine, which will only get better and smoother over time. I wonder if the tester is really only used to 150hp hyper sports fours or similar. I personally think they are a breath of fresh air.
My V100S has 6K on it and revs really quick for a twin. Gear box is now snikitty great. I never use the quick shifter. Drive a broken-in bike, please. Four strokes are really tight new. I have zero issues with power anywhere but it is indeed lively above 4K. I feel no shaft effect at all compared to my R100RT, zero.
It amazes me people gaslight the standard crap about Guzzi, and this is a long shot from a standard Guzzi. I love the fact that the V100S is so versatile and easy to live with. Tour, commuter, light sport? Yes, yes and yes.
Pefect? No, the suspension although good is tight on square edge bumps. That's the Ohlin's not the bike. Needs storage crannies and a bigger dash.
The brake dive is 100% user adjustable. So adjust it for less if that's your thing. Easy to do.
Granted, a 31 year old BMWR100RT compared to the Mandello V100S is kind of harsh. But, I could not find a shaft drive twin that was "modern" until Guzzi made the V100S. This was a take my money PLEASE purchase. Few things I buy are as spot-on as this MG V100S. It has the spunk of my 1979 CB70F and the legs of the BMW but more of both than either! The wind protection is more than good enough with a GIVI touring fairing. It is near perfect to still make you feel "out there" and not covered up in plastic. The tank wings WORK. Sorry, they are not gimmicky. Run at 48 degrees in rain mist and wind awhile and turn them in and then tell me they don't work. You'll wish the hell you didn't turn them in! Want more air in the summer? Easy, then you turn them in. I love the wings.
I set the throttle to SPORT in the TOUR mode as it is more immediate, like a carburetor bike is. The drive by wire is soft at the initial opening for some reason and feels anemic. SPORT throttle response cures most of that squishyness. Being off the BMW I really notice this, still.
My transmission still has a firm engagement, but it doesn't JERK anymore. It's worked that out but not the heavy CLUNK, that's still "audible" but you don't jump foreward a foot anymore if the brakes aren't applied. I also never use the quick shifter as I do it better myself. Oh I tested it and it is a second gear on up thing for sure, and is fine. I just like to shift.
This bike has been needed in the market for like fifteen years! WTF everyone? Better, it is a bulls-eye on the requirements except a few niggles. The Guzzi makes a UJM seem like a specialist bike it is so good at what it does everywhere.
I think you talk a load of crap
I'm glad I didn't watch this review before I bought my white v100. I've put 5,300 miles on mine in 6 months and I really like it. First time I watched this guy and he is a big whiner, he sucks.
lol...gave me the same impression! I ordered a v100 s after seeing almost all the reviews on youtube and after testing the bike from the dealer. 99% of the reviews are very positive!
Did you seriously throw that beautiful brand new motorcycle down on the ground just so you could get that ridiculous shot at 3:22? Or was it a case of being as bad a rider as you are a reviewer and you just crashed it and shot a picture before you picked it up? Egad man. Bad form.
An absolutely wonderful motorcycle! The engine is truly awesome. It gets better and better the more miles you ride it. Mine is the Aviazone Navale and comes with the just right options and price.
I just test rode the Mandello S. There was nothing old-fashioned about the bike. The tech works and the bike is beautiful. We were doing well above the posted speed around sharp curves and long sweepers. The only point of your review that made some sense is that the quick shifter was clunky 1st to 2nd, but then again so is my R1250GS. Listening to your review, I wondered if we were on the same bike. Yet at the end, you recommend it?!?!
You don't get it. Did you even ride the bike?
I'm not sure this guy actually bothered to ride the bike since all he used was stock video and none of his own.
And on which website can you download such videos? :)
Quite strange review.... a kind of unassumed bashing..
I seriously think these bikes will become a classic in years to come. Almost like a hit song thats ahead of its time, and only appreciated later on down the track.
Ok, moving on to more competent reviewers.
Honest reviewer! What a joke. This is honestly one of the worst reviews of a motorbike that I have come across. I just could not relate this to the bike I have come to love over the past 10000 miles. Has the reviewer even ridden the bike?
What specifically do you disagree with and relative to which models are you comparing this bike?
It does come with a power socket under the seat. You can also buy a second power socket for $30 (AUD) that takes 2 minutes to install into the dash cluster.
...or, you can move the power socket under the seat to the dash location in about 10 min. and spend nothing
@@kingkrimson8771 True, it was cheap enough to buy an extra one so thats what I did.
Love this bike . I don’t why so much hate 😂
Amazing drone footage!
What kind of A.I. nonsense is this?
There was a lot I have to disagree with
I bought a base due in part to your assessment and after 4000 miles of riding and tweaking I could not get the bike to stay planted in aggressive sport riding conditions.
I ended up trading for an “S” because I liked everything else about the bike and the Ohlins system in my opinion transformed the bike.
I owned a KTM SDGT for 5 years and the V100 S handles better in tight fast twisties in my opinion.
So if the rider is going to meander then the base is fine but if you are looking for a destination bike that gets to the advanced stuff in comfort,
I recommend the “S” with the Ohlins semi active.
The QS works perfectly from
3rd to 6 th and I use it on every ride to get to high gear quickly and seamlessly
With 5000 total miles on a V100 I find the bike to be a very enjoyable mount when one has to travel to get to great roads and doesn’t want to use a trailer.
I remember my 1989 MkV having rock hard suspension. I would prefer something more solid.
I guess not everyone likes every product so I think I will put this review down to the bike not being to your taste. It would be pointless to take apart your review piece by piece so I will comment on the bit you got right. The quick shifter and gear change are poor on new machines however after you get some miles on the bike things improve, my bike now has 5000 miles on it and the whole gearbox experience os much improved .
Yeah. I find the gear box pretty good. I’ve realised it doesn’t like to be rushed.
Yes, mine at 6K is a completely different engine/transmission. No grips at all except it still shift to 1st from neutral with a clunk.
For many motorcycle testers, once they see the shaft drive, they’ll claim they can feel the drive shaft effect before they even sit on it, never mind riding it.
I’ve been riding shaft drive bikes for over 45 years and am still waiting to experience this drive shaft effect. But I’m sure any day now, I’ll get the full experience.
Please neve ride a Guzzi from the 70s or 80s. I can't imagine how you'd describe one. Life would be so boring if every bike had a near perfect honda gearbox and a hyabusa motor. It's just not what a Guzzi is about. Some get it, some don't.
This concept thing at the start just made me laugh. It's a new platform I agree but concept? This bike is from Piaggio group which also has Aprilia and I am almost sure that top notch. engineers were assigned to the project. Where is this bike vintage? Because it does not look like transformer or insect?
Здравствуйте, уважаемый мотоклуб Одинокий Волк! С Наступившим Новым Годом! И с наступающим Рождеством!
Guzzi exhaust music way better but lacks BMWs reliability
wonderful review... I am looking to replace my city only W650 Cafe racer (looks do matter) with something more road biased to tickle my will to ride bigger distances. This one is on top of my list.
Qual foi a melhor afinação de suspension que encontrou para a moto?
А кто говорит ⁉⁉ ИИ, или сам так на Энхлейском ❓❓🤔... Голос, шоттто не тот ....🤔🤔
Agree on a 10% of the review however stylish review
Looking forward to the Stelvio
Stelvio is same engine, quite same motorcycle. Heavy as hell. "They are same pictures".
@@podunkman2709 Slightly forward peg position for more relaxed knee angle and to my eyes, nicer appearance.
Ditto
@@Otto-AutoPilot I agree. The Stevio isn't about being a top tier adventure bike it's about being better adapted to carry luggage and having more room on the bike. Not in love with the new WC motor I'm leaning towards the 2024 V85TT for that reason but I haven't completely ruled out the Stelvio.
Somehow it seems besides the bad things on the bike you are looking for the negatives in the positives and this sounds like whining. Weird way of making a review. I am wondering what is you day to day bike!
Among your “dis” list, you missed the horn😂. I love my V100S… 5K miles, and really opening up.
there are channels that makes "review" videos through other reviews and spec sheets, without even having the bike. your thumbnails, which are stock photo of the bike with white background and text, makes it seem like you are one of them. you have great footage troughout gorgeous places, consider making your thumbnails with your shots.
black and nontextured regular font in front of solid yellow rectangle is also makes it looks like a low-effort video. all this and low view figures may make people think it is a content-farm channel, when they see it on their recommendations.
aand what's with the different voice in your earliest video i can see (f 850 gs one) is it ai? was that your own voice but, this is ai? are you using fiver voice actors?
new sub btw
Wish to own one, but will not. No dealers around, no support and I bet a nightmare to get parts. MG is a great bike company.
Easily the most complete review of this motorcycle. Subscribed.
Goddamn, another banger that was informative and beautiful to watch. Great work dude.
I found it interesting that nearly every other owner review claims the suspension is too stiff.
I’ve tested the standard version and I confirm it is very stiff, with some vibrations as well.
@@flobax21 Did you take the time to do any suspension adjustments?
Define stiff. On square edge stuff it is stiff, but not on everything else. It just can't seem to absorb harsh kicks real well. Even set as light as the comopession will go doesn't work. I'm 150 pounds, so the spring is too high a spring rate for me. If I adjust the spring lighter, the damping will be a notch gain too "tight" on square edge bumps. The valving range seems to be the problem. I'm no expert but is is a good suspension most of the time. But in no way will I say it is a magic carpet on square edge stuff.
What is your riding experience?
Vintage?
On the bike, you can adjust the ride settings of each mode, rain settings in Sport mode and anti-skid settings in 4 modes. Since the bike responds to the throttle in sport mode 1 traction control 1 really sharply, I suspect that the sport mode settings of the bike you tested are set incorrectly.
I agree. My V100S is 100% adjutsabel to suit your needs. I set the throttle to "sport" but leave the rest alone in "tour". The sport throttle (engine) feels more like a carburator to me, faster response.
But hell, go in there and adjust it and stop whinning. Sure I hated the rdie by wire at first, but adjusted it to suit, now no problems.
my bike is set for full response...I suspected you didn't have it because you whined.😂😂

I love the Mandello! Nice display and comfy
And I’m not after a tourer with extreme performance. Seating is important and the pillion was much loved by my wife when we tried the bike last summer.
If I want to drive faster and have some fun in the twisties I use my Speed Twin 1200.
The other option for me and my wife is a Tiger 900GT and yes it is a better bike than the Mandello on dirt roads and. Badly paved roads. Sold my Tracer 9GT as that almost gave me a heart attack on the way to a beach together with my friend. The electronics really had to work hard. Might be the tires that come as standard are bad. Nooo I would never drive hard on a dirt road with my Speed Twin. Had I wanted to I would have bought a Scrambler.
Well well, by this summer the 1200 will get joined by a tourer of some sort.
As always to the point. My impressions of riding the Moto Guzzi were that they were not "classics" but simply outdated motorcycles.
In what region did you make this film?
Alps. Almost everything - France, some in Switzerland and Italy.
Outdated? Seriously? This bike was too long in coming after awkward ADV bikes. It is plenty modern.
Mileage I get 52-54 MPH on mine all the time, 6K milke average is over 50 MPG mixed.
Complain about the grip? There is a dedicated toggle in the display, and a few click and you are there. How many individual buttons do you want and for what? Good grief. Mirrors being weird? They work and are dead clear view behind. Not too big or small, just fine. My god man, the mirrors?
This bike is hugely lighter feeling than the BMW 1250 varients, not the same bike. One loves being ridden used everywhere, he other mostly loves the Interstate. I drove them both. I sold a R100RT, so yes I started with a BMW but the new ones lost me. Way too big and heavy.
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