I had gs 1250 because I thought it is top of the top. But somehow I didn’t enjoy it. Now I have mg stelvio and I am much more happy. Even though gs was better on the paper.
I bought a 2023 MG V7 Stone Special Edition 2 weeks ago brand new. Had a $3k rebate. Drove 250 miles to pick it up (500 round trip lol). I LOVE IT! Already have 850 miles on it and getting ready for the 1st service around 930 miles. Next very well may be the Mandello. I love the styling, shaft drive, and how easy they are to maintain, especially with motor not being hidden under the tank, radiator, etc. Old school and beautiful! Thank you so much for this review and all of the others you have done 👍
I think these are a great bike. Very underrated. I am seriously thinking of getting one of these after I am finished with my 1100 Tuono. I am getting a little long in the tooth for Hyper- nakeds now and will want something more comfortable but still fun and sporty. And shaft drive is a bonus. I am not into Adventure bikes at all and would much prefer something like the Mandello. Fortunately here in Normandie, France ,where I live, we have a Guzzi dealer near us.
Tuono 1100 Factory to V100S is the journey I took, probably for the same reasons. V100 is a pleasure and not quite so intense as the Tuono. Terrific bike, zero regrets
I have the red and gold V100 and it’s a sacrifice worth taking not having the electronic suspension for the looks over the V100S, plus, the savings at purchase and simplicity for reliability makes the V100 the canny buyers choice
I bought the White/Gold. I still haven't taken the active suspension pill yet. It has saved me a ton of money, and since I've never even test rode a bike with it. I can't miss not having it.
@@otter7467took mine to MCT suspension, Darren replaced the fork springs and oil and replaced the rear shock, bike rides so much better and as you say is a bargain, I didn’t need all the other stuff the S comes with
I believe the wire cable you are noticing on the throttle is not the ride-by-wire, but is for the heated grips. I have the same thing on my Yamaha Tracer 9GT.
I have a '23 V7 Stone Special Edition and a '24 V100 Mandello Aviazione Navale. The difference in riding the bikes is like night and day. The V7 has a smoother transmission, where the V100 makes a terrible "clunk" going into first at a stop. I'm a low-tech person, so the Navale has enough gizmos for me. Although, I think the price difference between the Navale and 100 S when I bought mine was less than $1000, I probably still would've gotten the Navale (I work in foreign military sales for the USAF, so the connection with the Italian F-35s hit a mark for me, more so than the Ohlins suspension). Guzzis are definitely a niche bike, and those that know, know!
Would i buy? Well .. my answer has been a 'Yes' this afternoon. Took the Grey S Model as it looks more elegant than the green one for me. I lover the handling, suspension and sound of this bike! Power and Torque is enough almost everywhere. (Coming from a BMW K1200S i need to state, that the V100 is not made for high speed Autobahn .. but instead it is such a fun to drive on country roads!) This bike moves your soul! 😊
It's always great to hear from actual owners and their personal experience, so please, keep us all updated, I look forward to hearing from you more! take care, Scott
When I was buying Mandello, guy from dealership told me that Stelvio is more comfy. I am 184cm so was quite curious. It was more Aprilia dealership and since they sold last model he allowed me to sit on his bike 😅. I sold my VFR800X few years ago so Stelvio is not my cup of coffee but I have to admit that position is very comfortable and the quality feel is there 👍
I don’t understand why the s can’t have the gold wheels like the regular version, it’s there when they first announced the bike and I thought it looked absolutely fantastic and now you get this boring black wheels.
@@markellott5620 You don't realize you're talking nonsense, do you? While riding, you can't see anything except the handlebars, indicators, and tank top. Then, apart from these two or three pieces, nothing has any meaning.
Hey Scott. How comfortable would that suspension be on small, rough alpine roads? Is it as soft/comfortable as your F900XR. I ask as that's what I've currently got and the suspension in Road mode seems to cope very well. How would the Guzzi compare?
About the same, maybe the XR would be a little softer, as this is Ohlins and they are performance focused. But in the softest setting, this is coming close to the XR. This has a lot more feel and feedback coming from the front and rear and that can be mistaken for being hard but it's more about communication and how the suspension is speaking to the rider. Once I adjusted to that amount of feedback, I'd say it can get almost as soft as the XR.
I’ve always wanted to buy a Moto Guzzi but, there are now zero dealerships in Atlantic Canada. The closest is over 700 kilometers away and there’s next to zero chance to snag a demo ride. The dealership I liked in Georgia (where I ride a lot) is closed. In my imagination, I’m presuming in Europe and Britain there’s no problem finding dealerships . . . or, is it an issue there too? It’s a pity because the more videos I watch like this, the more I want to ride and possibly buy one.
The closest one to me closed and they sent their inventory 250 miles away (in the US). Went there 2 weeks ago and grabbed a V7 Stone Special Edition. I love it! I know I'll be doing the maintenance, but these bikes are great for that with the exposed motor and easily maintained shaft drive. Basically change fluids like a car and you should be good to go. Well worth the 500 mile round trip...plus there was a $3k rebate since it was a 2023 brand new 😅
Dealership in the UK is limited but improving. My nearest dealer is 60 miles away (I know, nothing compared to 700km). I bought the standard V100 in red. Had it for 1 year now and done 7,000 miles. It's a keeper, although I do need to swap out the rear shock, as it's too harsh for British roads even on the softest settings. The forks are absolutely fine though - no problems there. Hope you get the chance to try one out soon.
Remember when all bikes had throttle cables? How did we survive! 🤣 Maybe I missed it, but no mention of the flaps? Now that's gimmickry I get worked up over. To me it was a waste of labor, coming up with those.
Long time watcher first comment, this is kind of a gripe. Of all of the times I needed to see the bike in your non moving intros and with drone shots and you didn’t do it 😢.
That's simply because this is just the "S" update, I did the full review last year when it came out, it's a tag or card in the video, in the upper right. Also it's a business case, I will make 50 euros on this video, in total after one year on youtube, so I'm not spending time on it.
@@NothingToProve I watched it when it came out multiple times, but this was the color I was looking for. Kind of in real life outside from the side. In my opinion you’re the best / only reviewer that will stand “behind” the bike while you talk , so the bike is still the focus, but on the stand, if that makes sense. OCD first world problems my man.
@@NothingToProve Btw there’s a really tough looking matte grey one I really want to buy but haven’t seen a single review on either. Something Navy related, low production. I just like the color. Since you’re in Europe I assume you’d have an easier time finding one.
I tested this bike twice and really wanted to by one. I also tested the R12 ninet twice and made an impulse decision to buy the BMW at the last minute. I love the BMW but miss the wind protection on the motorway and I do agree that the engine sound is better. But the R12 does sound sweet between 4-8k revs and pulls a little harder. I did have concerns over reliability on the Guzzi too and the heating in the city where I often ride. I might at some stage switch to the Mandello S, if I start touring more!
I had r nine t urban gs. Oil leak between engine and gearbox. Motorcycle was after guarantee period. I had to pay 500€ to fix it. Main seal. I also had gs 1250, problem with shaft. Waiting for new one: 4 months. In that period motorcycle could wait at the dealer or I had to sign a document that I ride on my own risk. BMW reliability? No thank you.
I`m still in love with my Ducati Multistrada 1000 DS 2004. I’ll never change it to all this stupid mods. I am the boss of of my tour and all this tech i handle betwin my right hand and my brain! My Ducati has more character then any of this modern bikes will Come close to 😎👨🏼✈️clever you anyway ❤
Guzzi moves the heart. Simply one of the last real and loved motorcycle brands left in a sea of machines.
Stelvio, Mandello and now Mandello S… Have you noticed that you laugh more in these tests than in other tests? 🤟😁
🤩 Well thats the Guzzi affect I guess
I'm really surprised you haven't bought a Guzzi, you seem to get a lot of fun out of them, Guzzi do things the Guzzi way..come and join us.
I had gs 1250 because I thought it is top of the top. But somehow I didn’t enjoy it. Now I have mg stelvio and I am much more happy. Even though gs was better on the paper.
I test rode both std and s. 6 months and 17000klm later pleased I purchased the S
I bought a 2023 MG V7 Stone Special Edition 2 weeks ago brand new. Had a $3k rebate. Drove 250 miles to pick it up (500 round trip lol). I LOVE IT! Already have 850 miles on it and getting ready for the 1st service around 930 miles. Next very well may be the Mandello. I love the styling, shaft drive, and how easy they are to maintain, especially with motor not being hidden under the tank, radiator, etc. Old school and beautiful! Thank you so much for this review and all of the others you have done 👍
I think these are a great bike. Very underrated. I am seriously thinking of getting one of these after I am finished with my 1100 Tuono. I am getting a little long in the tooth for Hyper- nakeds now and will want something more comfortable but still fun and sporty. And shaft drive is a bonus. I am not into Adventure bikes at all and would much prefer something like the Mandello. Fortunately here in Normandie, France ,where I live, we have a Guzzi dealer near us.
Tuono 1100 Factory to V100S is the journey I took, probably for the same reasons. V100 is a pleasure and not quite so intense as the Tuono. Terrific bike, zero regrets
I think after I've done with my ZX10R I might try a Guzzi. Always fancied trying one out. Similar reasons to you really 👍
I love the suspension and the engine on my V100 Mandello S!
No buyer's remorse! In my opinion, the S model is definitely worth the extra expense!
Same here.
same here
Shaft drive over chain for me. Enjoyed your review as much as you enjoyed riding the bike. Well done.
The review I was waiting from you. 👍👍
@13:38 That is your heated grip wiring. It has to do that as it's fixed inside of the grip.
When the Stelvio gets this suspension, it will be a breakthrough bike for Moto Guzzi.
Your rough roads are better than the best roads in the uk
Similar in NSW Australia…brutal on my s1000r.
I have the red and gold V100 and it’s a sacrifice worth taking not having the electronic suspension for the looks over the V100S, plus, the savings at purchase and simplicity for reliability makes the V100 the canny buyers choice
I bought the White/Gold. I still haven't taken the active suspension pill yet. It has saved me a ton of money, and since I've never even test rode a bike with it. I can't miss not having it.
@@otter7467took mine to MCT suspension, Darren replaced the fork springs and oil and replaced the rear shock, bike rides so much better and as you say is a bargain, I didn’t need all the other stuff the S comes with
You make me wish I had gotten the S. I liked the Navale which doesn't offer that suspension. Great bike.
I ordered navale as well. I wish it had the ohlins.
I believe the wire cable you are noticing on the throttle is not the ride-by-wire, but is for the heated grips. I have the same thing on my Yamaha Tracer 9GT.
I have a '23 V7 Stone Special Edition and a '24 V100 Mandello Aviazione Navale. The difference in riding the bikes is like night and day. The V7 has a smoother transmission, where the V100 makes a terrible "clunk" going into first at a stop. I'm a low-tech person, so the Navale has enough gizmos for me. Although, I think the price difference between the Navale and 100 S when I bought mine was less than $1000, I probably still would've gotten the Navale (I work in foreign military sales for the USAF, so the connection with the Italian F-35s hit a mark for me, more so than the Ohlins suspension). Guzzis are definitely a niche bike, and those that know, know!
Would i buy?
Well .. my answer has been a 'Yes' this afternoon. Took the Grey S Model as it looks more elegant than the green one for me.
I lover the handling, suspension and sound of this bike!
Power and Torque is enough almost everywhere. (Coming from a BMW K1200S i need to state, that the V100 is not made for high speed Autobahn .. but instead it is such a fun to drive on country roads!)
This bike moves your soul! 😊
It's always great to hear from actual owners and their personal experience, so please, keep us all updated, I look forward to hearing from you more!
take care,
Scott
The wire on the throttle is for the heated grips. Since it is extra option, is not that well integrated directly to the handlebars.
When I was buying Mandello, guy from dealership told me that Stelvio is more comfy. I am 184cm so was quite curious. It was more Aprilia dealership and since they sold last model he allowed me to sit on his bike 😅. I sold my VFR800X few years ago so Stelvio is not my cup of coffee but I have to admit that position is very comfortable and the quality feel is there 👍
It's good to enjoy one's work.
To me the V100 is probably the most elegant and well designed motorcycle on the market right now. It's not cheap though.
the song came to my head probably be there awhile now
After 1million klm on every bike imaginable my v100S is the most enjoyable all round bike I have owned and ridden.
Haven't hopped on one of these yet,but I did a Stelvio,and it fit like a glove.I don't think I'd trade my V85TT
Travel for one though.
I chose the S. £2k difference on the standard model. As I was spending that much, the extra was worth it.
Question is which MG???? V85 Stevio or Mandelo? Or v85 / stelvio with the electronic suspension?
I don’t understand why the s can’t have the gold wheels like the regular version, it’s there when they first announced the bike and I thought it looked absolutely fantastic and now you get this boring black wheels.
I had to change mine to gold. Could not stand the black ones
totally agree
@@markellott5620 You don't realize you're talking nonsense, do you? While riding, you can't see anything except the handlebars, indicators, and tank top. Then, apart from these two or three pieces, nothing has any meaning.
@@mavieskizz I'm not talking nonsense. If you can't come up with an intelligent response, say nothing.
Hey Scott. How comfortable would that suspension be on small, rough alpine roads? Is it as soft/comfortable as your F900XR. I ask as that's what I've currently got and the suspension in Road mode seems to cope very well. How would the Guzzi compare?
About the same, maybe the XR would be a little softer, as this is Ohlins and they are performance focused. But in the softest setting, this is coming close to the XR. This has a lot more feel and feedback coming from the front and rear and that can be mistaken for being hard but it's more about communication and how the suspension is speaking to the rider. Once I adjusted to that amount of feedback, I'd say it can get almost as soft as the XR.
@@NothingToProvethank you for the detailed response, Scott. That is very helpful. Ride safe.
Good choice but it does come down to dealer network.
I’ve always wanted to buy a Moto Guzzi but, there are now zero dealerships in Atlantic Canada. The closest is over 700 kilometers away and there’s next to zero chance to snag a demo ride. The dealership I liked in Georgia (where I ride a lot) is closed. In my imagination, I’m presuming in Europe and Britain there’s no problem finding dealerships . . . or, is it an issue there too? It’s a pity because the more videos I watch like this, the more I want to ride and possibly buy one.
The closest one to me closed and they sent their inventory 250 miles away (in the US). Went there 2 weeks ago and grabbed a V7 Stone Special Edition. I love it! I know I'll be doing the maintenance, but these bikes are great for that with the exposed motor and easily maintained shaft drive. Basically change fluids like a car and you should be good to go. Well worth the 500 mile round trip...plus there was a $3k rebate since it was a 2023 brand new 😅
Dealership in the UK is limited but improving. My nearest dealer is 60 miles away (I know, nothing compared to 700km). I bought the standard V100 in red. Had it for 1 year now and done 7,000 miles. It's a keeper, although I do need to swap out the rear shock, as it's too harsh for British roads even on the softest settings. The forks are absolutely fine though - no problems there. Hope you get the chance to try one out soon.
Going to trade in my EV for the new cruiser hopefully.
What helmet are you using, if you don't mind me asking?
I might be wrong, but it looks like Held helmet
Interesting machine from a niche brand. The OCD in me saw that throttle wire as well☹️
My 2022 Ducati Multistrada V2S also has the throttle wire...
i have the standard V100 Mandello and the throttle wire does not do that
@@johngoodlass Mine neither.
S has heated grips, that's the wire for heated grips
Remember when all bikes had throttle cables? How did we survive! 🤣 Maybe I missed it, but no mention of the flaps? Now that's gimmickry I get worked up over. To me it was a waste of labor, coming up with those.
Is the 16500 euro ride away price, or are there other cost when you purchase it? Thankyou.
Talk to your dealership, they are all different.
It means you are ready for Stelvio S
Long time watcher first comment, this is kind of a gripe. Of all of the times I needed to see the bike in your non moving intros and with drone shots and you didn’t do it 😢.
That's simply because this is just the "S" update, I did the full review last year when it came out, it's a tag or card in the video, in the upper right.
Also it's a business case, I will make 50 euros on this video, in total after one year on youtube, so I'm not spending time on it.
@@NothingToProve I watched it when it came out multiple times, but this was the color I was looking for. Kind of in real life outside from the side. In my opinion you’re the best / only reviewer that will stand “behind” the bike while you talk , so the bike is still the focus, but on the stand, if that makes sense. OCD first world problems my man.
@@NothingToProve Btw there’s a really tough looking matte grey one I really want to buy but haven’t seen a single review on either. Something Navy related, low production. I just like the color. Since you’re in Europe I assume you’d have an easier time finding one.
Biggest problem is dealer network in Australia. I'd love one but would have to travel 200klm for servicing😮💨
I have a dealer within 8 km! But they are sparse outside large cities.
Seems directly comparable with the tracer 9 gt plus.
I've managed 135mph so far on the M18
I tested this bike twice and really wanted to by one. I also tested the R12 ninet twice and made an impulse decision to buy the BMW at the last minute. I love the BMW but miss the wind protection on the motorway and I do agree that the engine sound is better. But the R12 does sound sweet between 4-8k revs and pulls a little harder. I did have concerns over reliability on the Guzzi too and the heating in the city where I often ride. I might at some stage switch to the Mandello S, if I start touring more!
I had r nine t urban gs. Oil leak between engine and gearbox. Motorcycle was after guarantee period. I had to pay 500€ to fix it. Main seal. I also had gs 1250, problem with shaft. Waiting for new one: 4 months. In that period motorcycle could wait at the dealer or I had to sign a document that I ride on my own risk. BMW reliability? No thank you.
@@piotrwiszniewski4179 Fair enough, I'll trade it in for the Guzzi then😂😂
I`m still in love with my Ducati Multistrada 1000 DS 2004. I’ll never change it to all this stupid mods. I am the boss of of my tour and all this tech i handle betwin my right hand and my brain! My Ducati has more character then any of this modern bikes will Come close to 😎👨🏼✈️clever you anyway ❤