Best NEWER BIOS for my MSI B650 Tomahawk
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- Опубліковано 3 гру 2023
- This is the board that is paired with the 7800X3D, I'm open to trying different BIOS over time as they release.
AMD Build
AMD Ryzen™ 9 7950X3D - amzn.to/3G4ZprR
ASUS TUF Gaming X670E-PLUS WiFi - amzn.to/3UwYlSI
TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB DDR5 Ram 32GB Kit (2x16GB) 7200MHz - amzn.to/3YOMnpk
ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360 - amzn.to/3IBIxtO
MSI MPG A1000G PCIE 5 & ATX 3.0 - amzn.to/3MzleSu
Intel Build
Intel Core i9-14900K - amzn.to/3PVsav6
MSI MPG Z790 Edge WiFi - amzn.to/3k5E61j
TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB DDR5 Ram 32GB Kit (2x16GB) 7200MHz - amzn.to/3YOMnpk
DeepCool LT720 Liquid Cooler 360mm - amzn.to/3pF4imh
Corsair RM1000X - amzn.to/3A9aG7c
GPUs:
ASUS TUF GeForce RTX® 4090 - amzn.to/3JEcCd6
MSI Suprim X GeForce RTX® 4090 - amzn.to/43pcfdu
ASRock AMD Radeon™ RX 7900 XTX Taichi 24GB OC - amzn.to/3oqAGIG
ASUS ROG Strix NVIDIA GeForce RTX™ 4070 Ti OC Edition - amzn.to/3OsxhUc
Sapphire Nitro+ AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT - amzn.to/3PeKuyR
GIGABYTE AORUS Master GeForce RTX 4080 - bestbuy.7tiv.net/Kj2oxn
Monitor
Acer - Predator XB273U Nxbmiiprzx - bestbuy.7tiv.net/QOQV56
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Hope this helps some of y'all trying to work through the landmine field that is PC part, especially with AM5
hey there bratan, may I ask what BIOS settings are absolute must with this mobo+CPU combo? I have the exact same build, everything seems to be awesome, the only things I've changed so far are a -25 all core curve+ turned on memory context and turned msi software update(or whatever it's called) off.
Is there something else that I'd need to set for the most optimal performance?
I haven’t had any issues with the CPU with these BIOS revisions only Nvidia GPUs and RAM. Once I found one that didn’t kick my boot from CSM to UEFI OR allowed the Nvidia GPUs to boot then AND was able to set my 7600C36 timings, I was all set
Thanks for this! I just got my B650 a week ago. It only shows Bios Version: 1.70 => How can I know which exact number this is?
Also why did you say MSI centre is bad? What do I need to do in regards to driver downloads if I don't use MSI center? Is it just the chipsets and Bios as you showed?
Sorry if my questions are silly but I'm kind of a noob when it comes to this :D
Of course you need your GPU drivers and chipset driver straight from AMD, I just updated to the newer beta Bios last week but the final released one gave me issues with my RAM and when I looked it up seems to even be gone
7D75v1C2(Beta version)
Getting this motherboard for R7 7700, i get 7700 cheap and i get this mobo because in future i want to upgrade 7800x3d when prices drop.
That's a solid plan. Latest BIOS updates were a lot more stable when using Nvidia cards. Shoot might even drop a 9800X3D in it
I also have problems turning it on sometimes, the screen stays black and I have to turn off the PC many times, what bios do you recommend?
If you’re using an Nvidia card you can try to see about a BIOS that allows you to use CSM. That pretty much fixes the boot not working, my decision was between that or having an issue with RAM frequency not being stable past 7200. I dropped my Radeon card in and left it at that. Try some of the newer ones but the BIOS I was on was a beta from December I believe
t@@FIVESTRZ thx for answer, I'm using the latest non-beta version and it's causing this problem, which one should I try? i use a 6000 hz ram
@@OnitsTV try the latest beta before it. I haven’t changed since I tuned my RAM and dropped in the Radeon GPU. Something is wrong with the handshake between the Nvidia GPU and the monitor/PC connection. You can actually enter your windows code and if you know the key combo (Windows+X, U, R) you can restart the PC and sometimes that catches the handshake without pressing reset button
Hi! I’m on the v17 bios from august/23. My issue is that my ram oc might get unstable after cold boot or restart. Have you experienced this? And it might train the memory like 5-10 times correctly but eventually it gets unstable until I restart. I am thinking about switching the bios but concerned about the stability on the newer ones/that rtx problem you mentioned. Do you have any suggestions how to fix it or any experiences about the bioses? Thanks for the help! 😊💪
Also memory context/power down both are disabled
I was having memory issues with most of the bios in conjunction with the RTX issue. Threw in my 7900 XTX and that never gave issue. Just updated to the new one and I’m getting errors in Karhu after about 3-5 minutes. Was stable for 45 minutes prior so 🤷🏿♂️ this board is not one I’d recommend after this experience. Since this is a 3rd gaming only PC it’s not that big of a deal for me. If it wasn’t I’d sell and buy a second X670-E
@@FIVESTRZyea my exprience is pretty much the same 😅 I even changed the processor once because the first one was only capable of 5200mhz max. Have you tested the same bios I have(17), wondering is the newer ones any better or is it just a hassle for nothing if I update the bios. Wish I would have chosen another mobo xd
@@bilbobegkills8487 I’m with ya there. Might still choose something different lol. This thing is NOT it and the first bad product I’ve purchased from MSI since getting into PCs in 2018. There have been some defective units of decent to good products but I just don’t think this was a good product given its importance to the overall build.
Hi I just built my system yesterday but with a Ryzen 7700 and I had all the interesting stuff. Long boot times and bad WiFi connection with package loss and slow download speed. What could that be? I have fixed the boot times that’s better now but my old 6700k intel machine boots in like 5sec and this takes ages still. The WiFi is weird I have updated the bios and all the chipset things from AMD but the wifi issue stays no matter what i do. any idea what could be done there?
Nah, is this the only device in the house with issue with your wifi and did you double and triple check all the connectors are completly installed or screwed in all the way for a strong connection.
The ram your using (TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB DDR5 Ram) says its a xmp ram, does it also work for expo too? i have amd motherboard and a amd cpu 7800x3d
Yes it did, 7200C34 I think I had to move it to 1.45V
@@FIVESTRZ Im not really suure what that is, do you recommend just getting only expo ram instead for someone that doesnt know anything about voltages or anything like that so it saves me the headache?
@@ryancopeland7217 Yea, if you can boot with EXPO then manually increase the voltage a little bit but you should be fine.
please make the best CPU OC R 7800x3D 😀
Shoot I’m too basic for that bro. I’ll shoot over what I have including my RAM timings
I would love to have those timings as well if you don't mind :) @@FIVESTRZ
How come msi center is cancer for pc? It made me do it for mystic light since my cpu fan lights need it on my b650 edge wifi board.
I did not download all the programs and Uninstalled the ones that did slip through. Is that why or does it mess with the operations?
Been noticing mine will do weird things once and a while and it's a fully new build back in aug/sep. Was about to update the bios too since I did a beta by mistake
It’s convenient BUT conflicts with other softwares. For example you’ll have some issues with iCue or Razer software you’re GPU or other components lights will just cut off or introduce stutter. So many little things here and there. Not to mention turning on something like a game boost can cause the CPU to overheat
@@FIVESTRZ oh wow didn't know about the cpu. I got the 7800x3d with 7900xtx. Cpu never really hit over 50ish °c si maybe iv been getting lucky than maybe?
I definitely noticed the light the light thing though and have to restart pc n usually fixes it but I know I used the ram light and was a bit annoying getting msi to stop overtaking icue since corsair sticks.
Now when you say stutter you mean the lights or it can cause the game/graphics to stutter? Noticing stutter when play pcvr wirlessly to headset. Pc ethernet of course but I think it's because I don't have have a high-end router. Just the 6e spectrum gave and a 5g google mesh. Not sure if you have any tips for that or if it's even related to the msi software.
How hot would it cause the cpu to run? I don't think I use game boosters really though since both are powerful enough on their own and temps tend to stay decent since I run on air cooling. Have seen gpu hit over 70c where as like I said before cpu stays around 50 maybe 55c at heaviest but I did just recently change the gpu fan curve on afterburner software. Is that one bad too? I think it's msi afterburner can't remember at the moment
Hello guys, what is the most stable and newest version without any issue to use rightnow ? I want to buy a new b650 tomahawk but still searching for if it has so much problem or not. For me, this MB seems the one of the best that I can buy for my budget
I haven’t tried any of the newer ones because half of them were giving me black screens when using an RTX 4080, unless I booted into CSM which means no ReBar. Other issue was not being able to push RAM to 7600MT when I was fully stable on previous driver
Thank you for replying. So the version you upgraded in the video is the best to use with nvidia cards without any issue I guess. I will also use it. Thanks again !
@@raxtwi I'll let you know which one I am on but if you didn't buy this board, I would research some others. My ASUS X670-E gives no issues, can accept higher frequency RAM and is a better chipset from ~$80 more.
@FIVESTRZ I bought it today, waiting for it to be delivered. I hope I won't have any issue
For the one you have recommended, I had no budget. Thanks anyway
Until was forced to rollback bios, RTX was moved to next slot down so board was forced to load new device ID to bypass blackscreen. Fyi its still booty motherboard.. can not get better tighter timings expo. PBO is iffy as well stress test max 3hr . But old rx580 troubleshoot gpu everything works fine in every way. Far from a 4070 though lol.. Have a great holiday..
I got 7600C36 stable for 9 hours via Karhu but testing out the most recent beta. This board is a wild one for sure.
have you tried 7D75v1D and how it is ?
Nope, right now I have no issues and the RAM is all set and running stable in Karhu for about 10 hours. Might do it later but I usually don’t recommend people update when nothings wrong unless it’s a feature or better comparability that you’re after and the new BIOS gives you that
@@FIVESTRZ what bios do you have now?
@@AhmedEssam_eramax I have to check when I get home but that beta BIOS from December. It didn’t make a difference when I switched the 7900 XTX into that rig and all has been well since. Only the higher end RTX 4000 cards have boot issues
@@FIVESTRZ I am installing my system now and 3090 and 96gb 2 kits 5600 cl40. I want to go with the bios that make the system stable
@@AhmedEssam_eramax at that speed you should be fine. Gaming performance is gonna suffer but I’m assuming you’re going more the occasional games but mainly productivity route
i dont like the new one i have very long boot time and cant put expo profile for ram
Someone was talking about tweaking a setting to cut down the memory training times which speeds up the boot. I haven't gone that deep into the settings but I have seen it a few times. Not going to update my BIOS because everything is working right now including my RAM OC which half these BIOS makes it not work while others are 10 hours stable in Karhu
tight 6000 cl28 will be better for games
Yea you'd think so but I can't tell the difference and beefy tech did a side by side. I did go ahead and download Karhu to test and threw an error 5 minutes in but newer 7600C36 is 900% so far
@@FIVESTRZ hmm weird, yeah difference is small from what i have seen in overclockers forum with X3D CPU's
@@GoldenEagle0007 what’s noticeable is the voltage necessary. I was using 1.48-1.49V on DRAM at 6200C28 but now I’m 1.43V
@@FIVESTRZ im on 1.43 cl28 6000 in gear 1 because anything higher speed i don't see any difference whatsoever in fps, even cl30 6400 is no difference at all
@@GoldenEagle0007 yea the diminishing returns is wild. Also that’s crazy good/low voltages. Makes me wonder if I went too tight on my timings. I was somewhere in the 28-32-32-30 range