What's the BEST MOTHERBOARD for AMD's Ryzen 7 7800X3D?
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
- Hey everybody! Today we're checking out some cherry-picked motherboard options from MSI - my personal picks for your AMD Ryzen 7000 CPU, specifically the Ryzen 7 7800X3D which is probably the most highly sought-after CPU right now!
We'll be going over key features of five different X670E and B650 motherboards including a mini-ITX option and working out which one is best depending on your budget.
Thanks to @AMD and @MSIGamingOfficial for their input and support for this video!
Buy them now:
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D - amzn.to/3LyYVgt
MSI MAG X670E Tomahawk WiFi - amzn.to/3HjqPLf
MSI MPG B650 Carbon WiFi - geni.us/B650Ca...
MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk WiFi amzn.to/3Nkx852
MSI Pro B650-P WiFi - amzn.to/3n347QD
MSI MPG B650I Edge WiFi - geni.us/4Lmn
More info/product pages:
MSI MAG X670E Tomahawk WiFi - www.msi.com/Mo...
MSI MPG B650 Carbon WiFi - www.msi.com/Mo...
MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk WiFi - www.msi.com/Mo...
MSI Pro B650-P WiFi - www.msi.com/Mo...
MSI MPG B650I Edge WiFi - www.msi.com/Mo...
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Title should have been best "MSI" motherboard.
But MSI is the best. Asus too many variations quality worsens as a result, weird bios naming, doesnt work on Day 1. Gigabyte almost MSI but there have been recalls.
@@DominickDecocko Then explain how i’ve had multiple MSI and Asus products and motherboards in the last 5 years and every single MSI device was either terrible or failed, while every asus device still works flawlessly to this day. stop the 🧢 MSI is dog shit
Last I checked msi got hacked........if you download the wrong bios you basically just let an intruder in. So how is msi the best again?
@@DanTheManTriggerMan bro considers absolute useless dog shit the “best” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@DanTheManTriggerMan probably by chinese
Former X670E Carbon Wifi user checking in! I've used the Carbon Wifi for 7-8 months, my CPU died. Sent everything in for service, motherboard came back without issues.
I got an X670E Aorus Master board as I got sick of waiting for the motherboard back. I have to say, it feels like a competely different class of product. If you can afford the slight price increase, and can fit an E-ATX motherboard in your case, don't even think about it. Go for the Aorus Master.
X670E Tomahawk has been the best AM5 board for me in terms of BIOS features, RAM stability and overall firmware/software. It was released only a few months ago, quite a bit later than B650 and especially X670(E) boards, which gives it the benefit of being more mature. Better stability than Gigabyte Aorus and Asus Gene.
The case front panel takes care of USB, for which X670E has 2x 3.2 Type A (instead of 1 on Carbon) and more 2.0 than most cases have anyway. I connected 2x 3.2 + 2x 2.0 + 1x type-C 20Gb to my Fractal Design case, which gives in total 10 type-A and 3 type-C.
It also goes for 290$ on Newegg right now, same price as Carbon.
PCIE bandwidth in the past has made my old systems age faster, my 2600k I got rid off partly because PCIE 2.0 became limiting for the GPU, 6700k and Z170 I recently sold because it's only PCIE 3.0 and can't do rebar (aka SAM) which makes a huge difference. For that same reason B450 AM4 boards are now much less desirable than B550. I don't understand recommending PCIE 4.0 board, which almost guaranteed will become a limiting factor during AM5 lifespan when one can get PCIE 5.0 board with twice the bandwidth for the same money.
And B650 Carbon will limit the GPU to PCIE 4.0x8, basically PCIE 3.0x16 bandwidth if you have M.2 in slot 2 or 3! Come on, that is not good, that is a bigger downside than all upsides that board has combined.
I get buing 125$ B650 boards with PCIE 4.0, not 300$ ones. For that price it's only B650E and X670E.
Some extra features on Carbon like clear cmos button on back pannel and toolless M.2 slot do not overweight the drawbacks at all. But Carbon looks nicer, I'll give it that :)
2 more power phases on Carbon makes no difference either, these chips don't pull much power anyway, 20 or 16 or 14 or 12 phases it's all the same.
U have carbon x670e and have. Problems slow boot and just one ram don't work in sloot 1i don't now if normal 30 seconds and expo crash pc😢
I'm leaning towards this board (planning on the 7800X3D and the RX 7800XT). Haven't built a PC for 10 years now.... how was the build process? BIOS tricks/issues?
@@dieselboats7886 im just ordering exact same parts, now im looking at which mobo should i buy, did you built it yet?
Sorry for the delayed response, @@ivanvrdoljak5523. I pulled the trigger on the following:
MoBo - GIGABYTE X670 AORUS Elite AX
GPU - PowerColor Hellhound RX 7900 XT
CPU - Ryzen 7900X3D
Very happy with the selection. PC is very quiet and fast.
@dieselboats7886 did you end up building on the x670e Tomahawk board? I'm in the process of selecting a MB and this sits high on the list for me as it is reasonably priced.
Best explanation I've seen of real-world differences between B650 and X670! I kinda agree that a high-end B650 is probably going to be better than low end X670 for a few reasons. I'm probably the niche in that I have three M.2s so X670 was the way to go for me!
I also agree to get the high end B650 MBs
Asus B650 board has slots for 3x M.2
The title should be "What's the BEST MSI MOTHERBOARD for AMD's Ryzen 7 7800X3D?". This is misleading and not really helpful.
I went with the X670E Tomahawk since it was on sale for $279 at the time. Seemed a no brainer.
Anything that doesn't set your CPU on fire XD
I ordered the MPG X670E Carbon Wifi, had a feature I needed which is 2 19 pin front panel USB 3.0 ports on the board as my case (Corsair 7000D) has 4 USB ports on the front and I can eliminate an addon card for the other port. Dumping my ASUS board due to issues with it. This will be my first time using MSI motherboards I've always used Gigabyte and switched to Asus for my 5800x and 7950x, but the current issues plaguing Asus (and my board) lead me to switch. Great video though and a good explanation of the different features on the different boards.
Ironically having the same sort of situation just I've never had a gigabyte board before, only Asus
Good roundup A lot of people think X670E is always better but the Tomahawk and Carbon B650 are way better value even with high-end CPUs
Yep pretty much!
B650 are most reasonable option, X670E are more for future proofing since high end gpu like 4090 or 7900 series still using PCIe 4.0 interface. Currently using B650 carbon wifi along with 7800X3D plus 7900XTX myself, i won't see any changes in foreseeable future in my build except in cooling system upgrade.
@@magtral what kind of RAM are you using?
@@andretonno3992 Currently using G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo ( 2x16 GB ) 6000MHZ CL 30
@@magtral Thank you
Good guide thank you
I`m happy with my B650 Carbon and the 7800x3d.
Msi needs to fix there bios for the SOC voltage.
Got the newest beta bios and by enabling EXPO SOC goes up to 1,425v...way to high.
i change it to 1,15v... for now it`s stable.....
Has it been fixed?
@@metabolic2057they did. soc is 1,3 volt max
@@Wimpelmann awesome, im building my pc rt with this msi b650, 7800x3d and 7900 gre oc, been Reading all day about what parts go well w eachother oof
One thing you need to take into consideration is if you want to run a 10gbe network card, then you really need a 2nd pcie x16 slot that can handle the bandwidth. This may be a case for getting the 670e or 650e.
I've had my computer for many years and you may just wan that pcie 5.0 port because most games are GPU limited and you may want to upgrade 5 years down the road and keep your current CPU.
Yeah agreed i'd comment about that but you've mentioned it already, he's seeing advantages of USB ports 3.2 which is a good thing, but that B650 Carbon Wifi has only 2 PCIE x16 lane
now say if you put your RTX 40xx series the GPU itself will take 3 LANES, and it will probably cover the 2nd PCIE x16 lane, and if you got an ELGATO Internal Capture card like I do, it will be a TIGHT fit. - just saying , 😵💫🥶
No such thing. No x670e board has 2 x16 slots. It is either x16, or x16 that splits into x8 if you plug anything into 2nd slot.
This is not Threadripper or Xeon platform. There are not enough lanes for your scenario
10G lan will only take 8 Lanes, so x8, so you will need to sacrifice X16 lane for x8 and plug gpu in it, while your 10G adapter will be x8 too.
Only on some motherboards. In most cases it is actually x16 first slot, and x4 in 2nd slot, and both slots are not connected electrically. 1 goes to CPU and 2nd goes to chipset.
I went with the X78003dx and paired it with the newer (Nov. 2023) Gigabyte X670E Aorus Pro X. Obviously this video is older then the board's release but what are your thoughts on this board? My last two builds over the past 8 years have been gigabyte and i've really like them overall. MSI is my other favorite, as I don't deal with Asus any longer which was my favorite 10 years ago...
Is that a new CPU? I have the ryzen 7 7800X3D
someone know if all the msi boards suffers from the issue of expo? or it's already fixed?
Whatever fits the am5
Just get one that fits your budget and if you're going high end then its obvious, the cashe is sensite to heat in terms of volts so u dont need a motherboard that has the option to overclock, could do more damage than good
Great video, can we get an ASUS comparison please?
Very comprehensive!
lmao no it wasnt
the best boards are those that DO NOT use intel i225-V NIC, that trash NIC is not worth all the trouble it has, i dont know of any NIC that has gotten more attempts to fix that this, so many hardware revisions, even more driver updates, and still, its full of various issues, just do a good search on it, you will find tons of issues with it. Get the realteck equipped boards instead if you like to have a stable internet connection and avoid troubles. Sure not all are having issues with i225-v, but many has, and its out of proportion compared to other NICS. I bet intel is giving them away for free,
Why spend so much time discussing USB ports from @12:10 to @16:24 when we are looking for the best motherboard to match with the Ryzen 7 7800x3d? Actually the entire video is really just comparing mobo's and not explaining how these boards take advantage of one of the hottest gaming CPU's. Disappointing video and misleading title.
Thank you for this very clear and interesting video. I'm leaning towards the MAG B650 Tomahawk for a high-end build I'm planning using the 7 7800X3D and the RTX 4090. I won't need the very specific or optimal features that come with more expensive motherboards. Hope it will work out ! (also scared for my wallet)
@@MakeSh00t I've checked on RAM compatibility website and the 2x16gb 6000mT kit I bought seems to be supported by the B650 apparently. Also other comments have said the opposite, that MSI boards are more stable the Gigabyte. I will build with what I have once I receive my RAM and see how it works. If it doesn't I'll return. Why would motherboard be a limiting factor for performance when he literally said the opposite in the video though ?
@@MakeSh00t Also I've just looked at other comments recommending the B650 for value even with high end CPUs. Someone in the comments mentionned he is using a CL30 2x16GB 6000 kit also and hasn't seen any issues
@@MakeSh00t I don't know, many people also seem to have no issues. I'll wait until I build my PC and try it to see if it works well or not
How did the tomahawk work for your 7800X3D?
@@sheluvher0in666 It took a while for me to install my pc, it went through a lot of revisions. It's now finished and installed but I haven't used it yet. I benchmarked it though. CPU got higher than average score on 3DMark Time Spy and Cinebench. Only thing that's a bummer is that I couldn't get 6000 DDR5 to run stable so I ultimately just downclocked to 5800. But 7800X3D should work great (PBO enabled and iGPU disabled) looking at the benchmark results
Probably worth pointing out that you are comparing their top-end B650 motherboard to their entry-level X670e motherboard. They are the same price in Europe.
B650 mag tomahawk has 6 sata ports and didnt go cheap on audio connectirs
I want to use the AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D on my next build, but I want to be able to use all the 4 Nvme ssd on the motherboard without comprising the Graphics Card, I want to keep it at 16 so which motherboard would you recommend?
whats the difference between carbon wifi and edge one
Are there any other differences between the B650 Tomahawk and Pro B650? Would the Tomahawk be faster?
No if anything the Tomahawk X670E would be less capable as it has fewer power phases but they should all perform identically in terms of CPU performance.
Hi bro, B650 carbon and x670e tomahawk price is same on my country, What's the best choice? :)
B650 Carbon WiFi. More features, higher spec.
@ OP Hi. I am the reverse. x670E is cheaper than the B650 carbon in my country. Your choice on this on??
I need help, long time not in real desktop PC world, just using Notebooks.... Now I decided to build me a desktop PC based on Ryzen 7800x3d and amd radeon 6700 xt. Where I need help is Motherboard! I can't decide between MSI 650B Tomahawk and ASUS TUF GAMING B650-PLUS. PC would be used for development and gaming, no overclocking is needed. Any help to make a choice?
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Im new to all this but i decided to go with the 7800x3d matched to the asrock b650m pro rs motherboard
Pathetic MSI didn’t make a B650E board. PCIE 5.0 GPU slot at budget is a necessary for many people.
ASRock X670E Steel Legend seams as one of the best imo.
Is that board really good
@@Edgar-u8v9m Yes I'm satisfied
so we should not get asus after watching
jayztwocents video. wondering if 7800x3d is even worth getting. might have to go intel route.
The best mobos for AM5 are from ASRock. The Steel Legend has been great. My only complaint is that the primary CPU_FAN doesn't have the same controls in BIOS and is only 1A instead of 2A.
I have the x670e steel legend too, does the 1amp really make a difference?
It is a f*joke!
What do I see there, only 4x Sata and an extension of PCIe 1x?
What is that board good for and what do I do with all disks and PCIe 4x cards I gathered all those years.
AM5 boards are all shit! I need to buy MSI Pro Rs as a compromice and still put 260 on the table 😤
Keep in mind a lot of people are using usb c hubs for many of their peripherals so they only have one wire running to the pc.
Im glad I haven't started buying parts already with all this 7800x3d/asus crap going on.
Just don’t use an Asus board and you wont have issues. It was Asus’ choice to go outside AMD’s SoC voltage thresholds. Everyone else listened and haven’t had over volt problems.
I have actually down voted your vid, I HONESTLY spent days looking at MB specs to pair with the 7800X3D, considering we can't pre test drive them (which is what you should have done) we've already decided on a board. What we need is numbers, speeds, memory setting and most importantly BIOS settings, "What's the BEST MOTHERBOARD for AMD's Ryzan 7 7800X3D"...............well it's neither of these two boards biased on your reasoning.
Next time compare the two chipsets and run some numbers instead of just yapping on about board specs.
Yeah this video is crap, as he's just comparing them with features. I want a video of someone who actually tested all these boards and tell us(SHOW us) which one does NOT have COIL WHINE or has GOOD THERMALS VRM's etc etc
What board did you end up getting?
@@ItzneviiPS3 ASUS ROG STRIX B650E-E GAMING WIFI, sry for caps, copied and pasted.
@@2110FSX Thanks! Went for the Same board yesterday. Its been running super smooth with the 7800X3d, Latest bios and 6000 mhz DDR5!
I have a question maybe u could help me with. I have the same cpu and I have the b650 tomahawk wifi with 32gb 16x2 cl40. The ram says its compatible. What do u think about the cl40?
I am going for msi mpg b650 edge wifi board for 7800x3d... Any reviews or opinion from anyone?
00:01 best motherbord "sponsored by msi"
Best mainboard? Consider yourself lucky if you picked one that doesn't fry the CPU by applying 1.4V or more at V_DDCR_SOC just because you selected an EXPO memory profile.
i see you Intel fanboy
What do you think about Aorus Master X670E?
Yeah this video is crap, as he's just comparing them with features. I want a video of someone who actually tested all these boards and tell us(SHOW us) which one does NOT have COIL WHINE or has GOOD THERMALS VRM's etc etc
17:24 Just a quick question. i've got the b650 carbon wifi and i have a nzxt h9 flow case and my idea was to have a 360 aio + 7 case fans. would this not be possible cause it says 5 system fans?? and would it work on the tomahawk?
Hi there. You'll need to use a fan splitter cable or PWM hub. Highly recommend this one. amzn.to/45Rhl4v You can connect multiple fans to a single system fan header and control all of them from it. I'd hook up the 7 case fans to it and control them together.
ASUS, they're fire! Literally 🔥
Both seem overpowered for a 7800x3d it’s a low power chip with no overclocking.
I say if a person gets this awesome cpu, then obviously you would want top of the line. GIGABYTE X670E AORUS Master, beats every mobo you have in this video.
Good comparison man thanks!
best motherboard for the money and features is the b650e-e . hands down. Enjoy
A hot of the press really interesting and affordable feature packed board is the Asrock B650E Taichi Lite. Really love the design of it compared to its bigger brother and looks to have everything one needs with fantastic 24+2+1 VRMs and 1x USB4. Will wait for some reviews and it to be available in the uk. anyone have this one in States or elsewhere yet? any good?
Been looking to buy this exact board! Currently, it's 320 euro here in Germany. Will be looking at some price drops for Black Friday, hopefully.
Why not b650 vs x670 ?
He should have shown the msi x670e wifi carbon. It is way better.
i prefer NXZT b650e why ? Based on my pure white aesthetic
That's fair enough - it is a good looking board! However I prefer MSI's BIOS and fan control plus they have cheaper options as well as mini-ITX (although NZXT is technically ASRock)
Do u use the AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D??
@@CadillacCoopdaville23 yes i updated the bios of my B650e from NZXT. And the AMD R7 7800X3D works as a charm.. and what a beast.
The white in combination with my Fractal Design North White looks very clean.
No asus comparisons?!?!?.
Is the MSI PRO x670p with ryzen 7800x3d a good combination?
find a board with good VRM thermals + that offers 6 -7 USB ports gen3.2 + atleast x1 usb c port
And with at least 3-pcie x16(pcie4.0) lane or 4 lanes, the more the merrier. Also atleast one those pcie x16 lane, at least one of them must be pcie5.0 for you GPU
@@officialyashvirgaming this is the worst advice .. Atleast one pcie MUST be 5.0 for the GPU? No graphic card can utilize this generation of pcie lane, so if he does not plan to upgrade in the future to a brand new GPU, there is no point in spending a much larger amount of money for it. 6-7 usb ports with ATLEAST one usb c port... again you do not know what his plan is. Does he need the usb c? usb c is definitely not a must have feature. The thing you got right are the VRM temps, but almost every b650 board and higher has good enough VRM for it, apart from asus boards.
How about actually showing what real world differences there are and actually doing benchmarks and real gaming statistics?
What is the status with MSI and 7000X3D overheating issues?
See the latest info here www.reddit.com/r/MSI_Gaming/comments/12yh202/msi_update_on_amd_7000x3d_damage_issue/
Is there a no wifi option
I prefer the x670e tomahawk if I'm going for higher end
The MSI X670E that I ordered was DOA. I went with Asus Rog X670E-E and so far so good.
I'm tired of you peasants talking about price, just give me the best of the best without bottleneck, I feast on dragon over here..... lol.
Hell yeah and me i ain't even subscribed to the guy and im still commenting and roasting kids
Wat about asrock x670e steel legend
None of them has a f***g postcode, you have to shelf $700 to have that on a ACE board...
Which are the current best micro-ATX boards for this? 7800X3d with a 7900XTX? Thank you
Why would you want a micro-ATX board if you have a 7900XTX?
Nice to see an English person mention price In pounds but you repeat yourself to many times I switched off after a couple of minutes
Is that Carbon b650 good for that CPU? Asking to the people that has it. Plz I would really appreciate any support.
Best board for a 7800X3D? The Asus ROG Strix B650E-E.
Why?
Hi I have msi x570 pro carbon wifi would the ryzen 7 7800x3d be compatible thanks
No AMD changed the processor socket. X570 is socket AM4 and only supports up
To Ryzen 5000 series. You need to upgrade to x670 or b650 to use Ryzen 7000. Can highly recommend Ryzen 7 5800X3D instead.
@@CrazyTechLab Okay cool thanks for quick reply I've got x570 carbon with ryzon 7 2700x I just wanted to upgrade for newer games that are coming out but not to go over budget it can get very pricey
Hi again the ryzen 7 5800x3d be okay paired with RTX 4070 12GB Ventus 3X E 12G OC Graphics Card thanks
Or what would you recommend for about £600 thanks
@@christopheranderson4476 7800XT is also a good option but depends what games you play
Are you sponsored by MSI?
Got an x670 ACE 😅 I’m going to be fine with that
E-ATX that one cost more than the ATX RIP
In india its more than 400$
the question is ... will it burn
Yeah this video is crap, as he's just comparing them with features. I want a video of someone who actually tested all these boards and tell us(SHOW us) which one does NOT have COIL WHINE or has GOOD THERMALS VRM's etc etc
I need to know the best mobo to use with this cpu that is pcie 5.0 for the latest gpu
X670e TUF FTW!
i went full pov pack with a giga DS3H
i need a cooler , my noctua is not needed, its too big
i've always preferred TUF motherboards
As i have seen people saying, Asus Motherboard ARE almost burning the processor.
@@jotaquim5653 Dude that was old days first released, But now Asus fixed em all with their BIOS updates.
Anyway if you thinking like this then you'd be better off with INTEL mobo
@@officialyashvirgaming yeah, i get It, good to know.
What is the best memory for these boards?
Can highly recommend Kingston Fury 6000MHz DDR5.
I have the tomahawk with a 7800x3d and Kingston fury 6000Mhz ram, any ideas on how to get the boot time shorter? always hangs on memory timing on expo, I'm looking for maybe the best bios settings to boot fast and stable. thx @@CrazyTechLab
Same
Wish you couldve also compared with the x670e carbon wifi
Nice MSI commercial LOL
Not sure anyone is going to need pcie 5.0 support on GPU's for another few years yet.
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Him: 6 USB-A is not enough
Me: ??????
In India carbon is morenexosnsi than 670e
The MSI boards have so many problems with the bios... especially with booting... and they simply dont fix them. Dont get yourself a MSI board.
i dont need the WIFI
Is this video sponsored by MSI? Everyone knows MSI makes garbage mobos for b650 x670 and their customer support is the worst of all brands.
I got the crosshair hero for my 7800x3d
I want to get the ITX board . Thanks for the breakdown of features. Do you know when you'll be reviewing the Intel option?
Very soon hopefully!