MSI B650 Tomahawk WiFi BIOS Tour & Settings Overview
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- Опубліковано 28 лют 2023
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MSI B650 Tomahawk WiFi BIOS tour and settings overview
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Nice board - I always enjoy watching watching the BIOS tours - there's always something new to learn - thanks Mike
More to come! and with the new tech on the horizon there will be looks of changes to be aware of
If others don't, I will. Thank you for taking the time to help us. Much appreciated 🙏
No problem 👍
Sent me spider senses tingling with a MSI BIOS Tour !!!!! Thanks for taking the time to show every nook and cranny of the BIOS, in my opinion MSI are the standard that other companies need to aspire to with regard their BIOS interfaces. Thanks Mike and Kath.
yeah MSI BIOS is pretty clear and straight forward
I agree with the MSI BIOS interface. Very thorough and useful. Cheers Bob! 😄
Brilliant and thorough video. Excellent content and insight into this boards features. Thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
Awesome video! Super helpful, only problem I had, you often said you can enable it or disable it. But you didn't explain what it does. But most likely you expected us to have the information already. Still a great and informative video👍🙂
if i went into detail on every setting it would be a really long video, i did mention if there were any specifics that need clarifying to get in touch either here or on the discord
Great video thanks Mike
You are very welcome
Great video mate, i got this mobo with r5 7600, and gskill 6000 cl30, followed your guide and enabled expo, pbo, CO -20, and everything runs smoothly till now, all the testing (cinebench etc) came out great, had my first gaming session yesterday and no issues whatsoever. Thanks for this detailed guide because honestly it was really tricky to find a step by step guide for clueless people like me! cheers
Glad it helped
@@mikesunboxingwhat is pbo and co -20 please tell?
@@anant0089 PBO means precision boost overdrive (some sort of a small auto oc). co means curve optimizer for the voltage. -20 = -20 millivolts.
but be careful, reducing voltage can cause system instability. -20 should be stable in most cases though.
@@mikesunboxing does the MSI b650 bios support 4x4x4x4 bifurcation for the x16 PCIE slot? unfortunately you skipped the pcie configuration settings in the video
@@thewildcard600 ok ty
Hi, Mike. Looks like B650 boards have lots of fun settings to play with. 👍
Yes they do, a little too much really, but nice to have the options
When I saw Tomahawk I thought we were reviewing a Tomahawk steak! 😆Seriously, it looks like a solid and well built mobo. I use ASUS mobos and my son uses MSI. MSI does take longer to boot but I do like the BIOS screens. Also use CSM when installing a hard drive with a previously installed OS. If its in UEFI it wont boot the OS. Thanks Mike & Kath! Cheers from Las Vegas. By the way it snowed in the mountains today. Strange weather! 😮
wow snow there? that must be a rare sight:?
I do find the MSI bios better to navigate on my dters pc versus my asus mb. Will be a while before jumping from AM4 2bh but glad of your tutorial Mike and Kath. Thanks for sharing👍
Fair enough!
Excellent, thank you. Just bought this board and you have done a lot to remove some of the mystic I have experienced with previous PC builds -- great!
Glad it helped
This is great board i use it with my Ryzen R5 7600x, mater of fact all the b50 series board are good from MSI, i still have all my Tomahawk boards from the first B350 to the b550 till now no problems ever and were just solid they make great boards period, but great review mate well done.
thanks appreciate it, just returned this one and got the edge wifi as a direct replacement, think i had a dodgy usb2 port
If you still have this build, how is it on booting up? Does it take a bit longer or even a minute or more? I've heard issues about this, especially with msi an I just recently got this MB an CPU, I notice it does take longer then my old ddr4 build.
@@shypony5820I have this exact board and it takes around 30 seconds to boot.
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Thank you thank you
I am literally buying the same setup used here except my ram is tforce delta 2x16 5600, it’s a great build I believe
Jo,finde ich bis jetzt auch echt geil das mainboard. Was braucht man noch? Eigentlich alles,was das Herz begehrt oder die CPU und der Speicher.
Thank you very much. I have the exact same MB / CPU combo. My question is does the restore factory default option in bios keep or reset the bios version. Thanks.
the bios level or version is hard coded, a reset of the cmos just resets the settings not the bios version
I was watching a video by Hardware Unboxed about the cheapest b650 motherboard. Interresting results, but what stunt me was that both MSI motherboard had the longest boot time of all. Around 40 second while Gigabyte MB were at about 23 seconds! Hope this will improve with more mature BIOS...
yeah boot times suck on msi at the moment, there is an option to override it but it could make the system unstable
@mikesunboxing are 13 extra seconds the end of the world? I think we will survive. 😊
Gonna get this motherboard when the 7800x3d comes out I can't wait
hopefully the bios updates get better soon and the DDR5 boot times decrease
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Hello! I find your videos very helpful (new pc builder, this is my first one)! I'm having a bit of trouble with connecting to the internet with this motherboard as the options at 7:11 for me are "Auto, Wi-Fi only, BT Only, Wi-Fi/BT Off". I tried it on Auto but it still wouldn't work on Windows 11 Pro, so I'm trying wifi only but I'm not sure it's working either. I was hoping to use both wifi and bluetooth but there is no option for it. Should I just use an Ethernet cable at this point?
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I have the same problem as you how did you fix it😅
@@mzd3ocho Hi, I had to connect to the router through the Ethernet cable and then update windows. It will prompt you to install all the missing drivers and that did it for me. If you keep having trouble you should be able to download the drivers separately on a usb from another pc and then install them on the windows one (I did it from Mac on my w11 a couple of weeks ago when my WiFi driver stopped working and simply reinstalled the new one. It was working once again but you shouldn’t get to this point unless it really isn’t working). As long as you can connect trough the Ethernet you should have issues after the couple of updates.
Again, Thanks for the video. Quick question, how do i disable fast boot ? I manually OC the ram and would like to have the bios train the memory every boot. Any help would be great. Thanks.
I think if you manually oc the ram the training is truncated anyway as you have chosen your own timings
Hi Mike, i have the carbon motherboard with a 7800x3d. Occasionally on power up. It enters the bios on its own. Not recognising my boot drive; samsung 980 m.2 then rebooting all ok. Your thoughts please as any info would be appreciated. Secondly how do you setup for 2 monitors ( including on board graphics)?
in the bios in the igou section choose forced and it will make the ports active
much easier as I thought.
Hi Mike, I'm looking at building a new gaming rig for the first time in about 15 years and am interested in investing into the AM5 Platform and currently have the following components on the shopping list (budget is around £2,000). The games I like the look of are mainly play FPS and RTS games like Cyberpunk 2077, Doom Eternal, Call of Duty series, Overwatch 2, Borderlands 3 and such like. I believe combining the Ryzen 5 7600X with a GPU like the RX6800XT or higher will squeeze the most performance out of the system and also has an upgrade path built in (the Ryzen 5 7600X can cope with the fastest GPU on the market, even the monster known as the RTX 4090 - so maybe when the price drops).
* CPU: Ryzen 5 7600X
* GPU: Radeon RX6800 XT or the 6950 XT
* Mobo: MSI MAG Tomahawk B650 WIFI
* CPU cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin or DeepCool AK620 (or maybe an AIO Liquid Cooler like the Arctic Liquid Freezer 2)
* RAM: Kingston Fury BEAST RGB 16GB (2x8GB) 5200 CL40 or similar
* PSU: CoolerMaster MWE Gold 750W V2 Fully Modular or similar (min.750W, at least B-Tier)
* Case: So many to choose from but 2 that I like are the Be Quiet! Silent Base 500DX and the Antec NX410 (ideally would like the Hyte Y60 but this is a tad pricey at over £200)
* Monitor: Gigabyte M28U (a 4k one).
sounds good to me, maybe try and get ddr4 5600 or 6000 that is the sweet spot performance wise and ideally CL36 or lower
@@mikesunboxing Cool, thanks. By the way, do you mean DDR5 5600/6000?
I had a question. Is the bios interface same for every b650 msi boards? Or MSI in general for that matters. Like I'll be buying a msi b650m gaming(non-plus), will the bios interface be same? And if it is then is it same for every other mobo vendors?
msi tend to be very similar and other brands will be same with maybe a few layout changes and descriptions
Thinking to buy this board or Gigabyte B650 Gaming X AX. What troubles me is , who from these 2 boards has better Linux support. Because the last 8 years I use only Linux.
no idea sorry, not used any form of linux for over a decade
Hello Mike, first time pc builder here and sorry if this is a stupid question. I’m trying to build a system with Ryzen 5 7600 and MSI B650 Tomahawk motherboard.. is it ok if I use “XMP” certified RAM or should I go for “AMD EXPO” certified RAM or is there any difference at all? Reading up online on this topic is a bit confusing so… anyway, Thank you. 🙏
either is fine, but i would recommend adding the RAM timings manually, actually that video is going out live tomorrow, worth taking a look
Thank you so much for taking the time to reply. I really appreciate it. Thank you for the clarification and I will definitely watch that video! Cheers!
@@mikesunboxing Hi. Sorry to be a pain, but could you provide a link to that video?
I'm looking at getting a MSI B650 Tomahawk with Kingston FURY Beast DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory and want to see what I might be getting myself into if I want to make use of EXPO / manually time my RAM. Thanks... and thanks for all of the content!
@@mjribes No problem - here is the link: ua-cam.com/video/H_6V85lAGvY/v-deo.html
@@mikesunboxing Awesome, thanks!!
Does anyone know how to change the sub timings. As we saw in the video they aren’t editable. How do I enable that.
Edit: u can just edit it, it just click and type doesn’t give much indication that it’s selected
Hi Mike, thanks for the great introduction. I have the same MB and the same processor but the EXPO profile just doesnt want to work. My NB Frequency is permanently at 3000 MHz (I have 2 DDR 5 16GB Rams. Do you know a solution for that problem?
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@@mikesunboxing thanks for the quick answer. Will do that :)
Hi Mike!
I'll build my 1st PC. I was using an Asus TUF gaming B650 plus wifi and unfortunate i got a faulty MB (A1 and B1 RAM and VGA Slots with no signal) My SSD Already has Win 11. It is ok if i boot Win 11 with this MB? Or i need to make a hard reset? Spec: AMD Ryzen 5 7600x, XPG 2x16 gb RAM 4800MhZ (5200 Mhz AMD EXPO Profile) MSI RTX 4060, EVGA 850 W Bronze +
the chipset is the same but the lan and audio are pretty different, i would be tempted to try it, but be mindful that a fresh install or at least a repair install might be needed
Worked out that disabling my on-board graphics made my pc not shut down
yeah mine is much better with is set to either off or auto
I havethis mainboard and RAM which is stated to support EXPO, however, the BIOS only shows "A-XMP". Do you by chance know if this is different in newer BIOS versions, or does my RAM have wrong specs?
The profile does seem to work, so your video aside everything appears to be fine.
if the ram has an EXPO profile installed it should be shown or accessible, but truthfully if it all works as it should, say a prayer and enjoy your pc
Do you know what would make it so i need to have asmedia sata enabled or disabled? Would appreciate the help, been having a frustrating day with the PC
should be enabled as default, are your drives not showing up?
I have b550 gaming plus should I disable integrated GPU? I have ryzen 5 5600g and GTX 1660 super !! What should I do?
yes it would be a good idea to disable it
Has anyone made a walkthrough of the B650? Everyone in their mother made a bios video. I need a video of someone showing what each outlet does and where wires will be located. Any guidance to find the content im looking for would be very appreciated.
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Hi there Mike! I hope you are doing well! I just have a quick question that I'm hoping I can get a answer too. So long story short, I got a brand new PC built not too long ago been about 3 weeks since it was built and the last week of it I accidentally got a malware virus and so I took it back too the company which I bought the parts from and had it built so they could do a fresh install of the OS windows 11 so it would completely get rid of the malware. I just got it back not too long ago and I have the exact same Motherboard and before the fresh install when i would either turn on my PC or even just restart it, I would see the motherboards logo first then it would boot into windows, but after the fresh install I now noticed it doesn't show me the Motherboards logo at all and just fast boots into windows. I'm not a very technical person which is why I am asking how can I get my Motherboards logo too show up again like before? I did go into control panel and disable fast boot in power options but that still didn't do anything so I am guessing that option is also enabled in the bios of my Motherboard, how can I get into the bios of this board and disable fast boot? Any assistance is appreciated thank you!
sometimes if the monitor is plugged into a different port, it doesn't get initialised before windows loads, so try plugging the monitor into a different port to start with
@@mikesunboxing Thank you that did it! The logo is showing up again like it used too! Appreciate the insight a lot! :) 👍
@@RedfieldChris-qx5gn Glad you got it sorted out 🙂
just a question. you can't adjust the vrms speed from the MSI motherboards.? cause on my asus motherboard i can adjust them.
vrms don't really have a speed as such
@@mikesunboxingbut on asus board you have the option to go extreme opening and closing vrms, standard and AI i think so.. that makes the vrms to clock higher than normal.
Does switching to UEFI also enable fast boot for you? I toggled between cmos/uefi and don’t see a way to disable this now.
not sure i will check and report back
@@mikesunboxing thanks mike please let me know. This has been driving me crazy. Not sure if I should reset my bios.
I got a lot of problems with this one and Ryzen 7700x, it doesn't show my SSD in the bios. But it does show it as a C drive to store things. also only usb audio jack on the front of pc works. its really bad too, my audio jacks in the back don[t work
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What's the highest RAM Mhz that this board and ryzen 5 7600x support?
not sure at the moment, with the bios updates it could be up to 10000
I have an issue with getting this board to work with both DIMMs installed. It works with one DIMM in the A2 channel but it wont work with both modules no matter which slots they are in. They both will work individually on A2 though. The module isn't faulty and I updated the BIOS with most recent version. Reseated both modules and made sure they were securely connected. Still only works with one. Anything else I can do?
Ryzen 7700x CPU
Corsair Vengeance DDR5 16GB x2
Try reseating the cpu sometimes uneven mounting pressure causes that
you can not disable hyperthreading in b650 or only at this board?
you can - its called SMT
yes it can be enabled or disabled
ASK? That model of motherboard takes them a while to start. because mine is?
we did a video on how to make that faster
what is the use overclocking profiles in msi bios
saving them to switch between
@@mikesunboxing can you please explain in details
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SOC bios update 27 April dropped
I personally prefer the old text BIOS settings - you can't get lost. With this new stuff I never know what is clickable and what is just a picture losing 5x more time in BIOS than used to.
i see that.
On my memory tab it only has three boxes. Is the memory loading correctly? I bought G skill. I have 2 32 gig sticks.
yeah sometimes that is all that is shown
PRO B650M-A WIFI No fast boots. Also my computer won't turn on with expo. I have rams that support and I own Rz 5 7600x.
i have a good video on that due out shortly, basically you need to enable expo but manually enter the first four memory timings from the box or sticker on the RAM, worked for me
@@mikesunboxing I try again. Thanks 🌹❤️
If I add an xmp supported ram to this motherboard, will it work?
yes it should do, AMD supports XMP and EXPO mostly
Yes, some of the sticks used in the QVL are actually XMP only (The corsair 48gb sticks for example)
so i got this board with a 7800 3dx and gskill tridentz5 with expo but when i go in to bios the expo button is greyed out and i cant click it i switch to 6000 in the memory setting any idea what i need to do ?
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Its been a week that I've built myself a pc , (7700x ,with 4x16gb corsair ram and im having issues enabling expo in my bios, when i boot nothing shows) what could be the cause ?
try with two sticks and you probably won't be able to run at EXPO speeds with 4 ram sticks, most boards struggle with 2
my case has one fan in the front and one in the back. both are running, but the fan control in BIOS tells me all systems fans are at 0rpm. only the cpu fan is around 800rpm with default settings. weird.
drop in the discord chat and we might be able to figure it out
yo i was wondering is it possible to update the bios withouy an usb
no i don't think so except via the msi center bios updater
Hello, thank you for this effort. I did everything but the screen is black and it is written that there is no signal ... I did not install Windows
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Hello friend, how do you see the compatibility with a 7800x3d and corsair CL36 Intel XMP iCUE ram?
might be okay, ideally you want the EXPO version of the RAM not XMP that is the Intel spec, and also you didn't mention what speed the RAM is
RAM 6400, The xmp version wouldn't work?
@@mikesunboxing
Everything was already purchased, along with the xmp ram, I have read that I would have to limit the ram to 6000, but I don't know if the Intel xmp version works on AMD
@@JoseLuis-be9bv it is possible it will work but not guaranteed.
I have a weird story for you
my ryzen 9 7900x can pull 211W (reported form the cpu package power sensor in hwinfo64)
but the max cpu package temperature is 85C it doesnt want to go higher
I get 28 913 pts in cinebench r23 multicore test
fair i did cool my room and coolant to 23C before running the stress tests odd that this cpu doesnt reach 90C easily
my aio is a corsair h150i elite capellix xt 360mm and I used corsair xtm70 paste
got the golden ticket there
@@mikesunboxing you mean golden chip?
No way
Hi, i have the same motherboard with 7800x3d but i don’t have CPU Ratio settings in the bios, donyou have an idea ?
might need a bios update? not sure really
@@mikesunboxing
I have the latest version :/ Have you a solution to undervolt the CPU whithout bios ?
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I'm building my first ever pc with a
ryzen 9 7900x cpu
Msi mag b650 wifi motherboard
And more
Regarding the bios update and win11 installation after the pc is assembled
Correct me where I'm wrong
1.Boot into bios by oressing the del key
2. Use M-flash to update the bios by use of a usb syick with the latest bios version
3.change the boot drive to the usb stick with the win11 installation
4.go through the prompts and select the ssd for installing win11
5.let it copy the win11 file
6. Removethr usb stick after this
7. let the pc install win11
sounds good to me
@@mikesunboxing thanks man
I get a little lost since I don't speak native English, could someone tell me at what minute of the video the RAM frequency increases and the AMD Expo is activated, please I would greatly appreciate it
2:25 it looks at ram
How did you make the menu red?
i didn't change anything, that was as it was
Does this board have any coil whine?
no not that i noticed
I have just built a new pc using this exact motherboard and cpu. I hav created a Windows 11 installation media on a USB driver (16GB). But even though the system sees the USB it wont boot from it and begin to install windows. I have set the boot priority to the USB and all it does is reboot into the bios screen, any ideas?
how did you create the install media? Did you run the windows media creation tool wizard?
How do you get to the Bios page? You never explained it
tap the delete key straight after turning on the pc
The MSI driver utility installer closed after it restarted to finish updating windows 10.... Having trouble trying get it back open to install the necessary files. Any help?
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is there a way to turn off all rbg through bios?
yes first page bottom right toggle
Is there no rgb control in the bios?
only on or off
I'm on a 4k monitor and the BIOS resolution looks super blurry. Any fix for that?
could be the hdmi cable or the monitor isn't scaling well
Hey Liebe Grüße aus Deutschland, ich habe ein Paar settings übernommen nur wenn ich den Curve optimizer einstelle erkennt das bios das nicht als neue Änderung an. Was kann ich da tun habe das selbe Motherboard
not sure? i haven't seen that happen before?
@@mikesunboxing Hey vielen dank für die Antwort ich habe es geschafft... nur kann ich kein Expo Profil auswählen nur halt XMP profil 1 wissen sie vielleicht warum ich habe einen AMD Prozessor und eine NVIDIA Grafikkarte. Mit freundlichen grüßen aus Deutschland.
if you plan to buy this thing for a modern ryzen cpu: don't
It's nearly impossible to flash that bios and I've been at it for 3 days now. going to RMA that chunk of e-waste
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When I select "PEG" the board is still always trying to boot from IGPU. I have to remove cable from the GPU and put it into motherboard HDMI to get picture. BIOS reset did not help. Sometimes forcefully resting the PC 10+ times will make the board put the picture through the GPU. But you can imagine how annoying this is. Is there any update for the board or should I return it and get some other board?
the board will only try to use the igpu if either there is no other GPU detected or it is told to via the bios. If there is an HDMI or DP cable in the igpu that will also trigger the Igpu
@@mikesunboxing Well, I have 4080 and I had i9 10900 and everything worked fine. I bought 7900X with B650 tomahawk and now it doesn't work fine. I am pretty sure that hardware that worked fine on previous machine is not to blame. Cables are the same, monitor is the same, everything is the same except for the board and cpu. edit: I have PEG as primary and no I don't plug display into motherboard, I plug in the 4080 (tried different outputs, even the DP one with DP cable) I only plug the hdmi into motherboard when the computer boots and gives no picture over the GPU. IGPU should be disabled but for some reason it works all the time andprevents 4080 from being the primary display output.
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Guys 1 question, i disabled the intregated graphics and the hybridGraphics and now when i restart my pc i got black screen ... What can i do? I have 4070 nvidia gpu but i think the system dont detect the gpu . Help pls
plug in the monitor to the GPU and see if the VGA error led comes on the motherboard
Can't seem to enable EXPO in the bios myself, every time i try this the system just won't boot anymore and i have to remove the CMOS battery in order to get my PC up and running again. Very frustrating! Am i missing something? (using MSI B650 Tomahawk, 7800x3d and 32Gb of Corsair Vengeance RGB Ram)
Turn on expo then go into the enhanced memory setting and manuallly add the memory timings in from the box or sticker on the ram
@@mikesunboxing Thanks will definitly try this when i get home!
@@Bannedf0rlife feel free to join the discord if it still gives you problems
PLS. Where is Multi-Threading (SMT) turned off?
use the search glass and type multi or smt and it should find it
@@mikesunboxing Yes. 😀It found "SMT MODE" :-) Do you think I can turn it off? Isn't there anything else I need to set? Thx
I enabled amd expo I have a amd 7800x3D and I had got it working prior I was able to play games but after I deleted my drivers and reinstalled them then enabled amd expo 1 my computer won’t post now.
Also same mobo as video
deleting drivers should not make the pc fail to POST. Maybe BOOT but not POST. What error code is on the diagnostic LED?
CPU and dram leds turn on briefly as normal when boot up after about 35 seconds they turn off and everything looks normal. I’ve tried reseeding ram and gpu also removed cmos and briefly and still not posting. I built this a week ago and had two faulty motherboards and the third one I got it to post and was able to install windows and play games frequently checking drivers to see how my pc was running and it was smooth but I decided to re install drivers after that I went back into bios and enabled and expo and now my pc won’t even post I just get black screen and my keyboard won’t turn on either which is wired. My set up is as follows. Tomahawk msi mag650 WiFi, amd ryzen 7800x3D, Radeon 7800XT, cool master cooler, gskill flare 32, 750 w power supply, 2 tb Corsair
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I'm trying to figure out how can i activate the wifi of my b650. I already enabled the wifi from the motherboard but still not showing up from my windows. Any help thanks
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Download the drivers from the site. Worked for me.
@@IvoryShard Glad to hear 🙂
hi, i have a problem. I have a graphics card, GeForce rtx 3080 ti. When start a game, this game is close in a few seconds or minutes. I was update bios trying with distinct version but the problem continue. AND also tried with distinct drivers versión of the graphics card and have a big power supply of 850w 😢 Whats can be the Solution?. thank you.
on another computer the video card works correctly.
new windows update and new chipset drivers first then DDU to remove the GPU drivers then reboot and install new GPU drivers
With this mobo will my fans work i got 3 120mm for the aio and 2 for back fans and 3 140mm for the bottom of my case but i dont know if this motherboard will work with the plugs the fans are Thermaltake SWAFAN EX12
depends if they are swafan ex12 rgb or ARGB
I can't change the week day in BIOS no matter what on my B650 ???
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7600x has really good single core performance!
yes it does, really good
My bios seems to freeze whenever I move a mouse or click certain things or try to save my settings and exit. Any fix?
Just fyi. I'm using the same motherboard. Just installed a 7700x and 5600mhz ram cl36
my guess is the cpu needs remounting and maybe the ram to
@@mikesunboxing pc works fine otherwise.
So you reckon I should just remount them?
Thanks for the reply btw!!
@@mikesunboxing
Re sat my RAM sticks and everything seems to work fine now!! Thanks!!!
@@MrZomfgwtfbbq Glad to hear that 🙂
When I put it uefi my ssd disappears😢 only works if I leave it on csm. Am in last bio update too.
you old drive is probably MBR rather than GPT, so it can't be seen in UEFI mode as MBR is not supported
@@mikesunboxing yup that’s what it was. I reinstalled w10 and it fixed it. I appreciate the reply.
@@spectrum6424 Glad you got it sorted out 🙂
How tf do I get out of this screen I already did the bios update it’s a new motherboard with new ram
if there is no operating system installed or detected it will remain in the bios
Why is the IDLE temp in BIOS for you so high? It's sitting at 46c. Is that normal? For me it sits even higher at 58c. Is this an AMD thing? With Intel in BIOS temps are in the 30s.
these chips run hot, really hot! mine had a 360mm aio on it as well
@@mikesunboxing I've been an intel user for life and this blows my mind. I set up a SFF (Ridge case) and a NH-L12S and it (7800x3d) idles 55-60c in Windows (and BIOS) and under load goes to 90c (but is capped at 90w). On the low end very hot but on the high end quite efficient.
Hi mike my msi bios is blurry screen😢
older TV ?
@@mikesunboxingno mike its a 4k msi monitor
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The onboard graphics are pathetic even on the 7800x3d. I tested it while waiting on my gpu to be delivered, and it doesn't seem any stronger than the integrated graphics in my ancient i7 4770.
very true it is awful
I don’t have BBS under my boot options how do I fix this?
it might be drive boot priority
Boot time pls.
the boot time is about a minute with the current BIOS and standard settings, with the memory training disabled it is about 30 seconds, i have done a video showing it in both modes
@@mikesunboxing A couple of new BIOSes have been released since this video was made. Have you tried them and are the boot time any better?
Any other noticable improvements? I'm deciding what mobo to get for the upcoming 7800x3d and this one has pretty much what I need.
@@mikesunboxing so boot time is still not fixed?
Bêta runner msi bios ???
beta is fine with am5
@@mikesunboxing I tested it on one of my m2 ssd, it took a while, and I didn't see any result notification...I came back to the main menu automatically. I haven't been able to really form an opinion on this option.
Using R5 7600 on this and cannot install the wifi driver..
what is the error message
@@mikesunboxing Hi mike, thanks for taking the time to reply, it says no suitable driver. However, I was able to fix it already by installing MSI center and installing the drivers there instead of msi website drivers.
@@jamesmanahan2800 Glad you got it sorted out 🙂
Did u time travel or sth? The time u record the video is 03/2023, but the bios version is 09/2023 😂😂😂😂
english format date vs us formatted date
@@mikesunboxingnice cover
@@Haddley333 lol!
Why does my ram say 4600 when it should be 6000
you enabled XMP or EXPO yet? if not you need to
@mikesunboxing yes but it still says wrong speeds is there a way to do this manually thanks for you videos this help me on my first build
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They removed set thermal limit which I don’t like 🤬
They did not. Got the latest Bios and I set it to 90.
I thought it was still there
The motherboard is really, really bad. I knew that the MSI startup is slow, but not that slow. After installing just Windows, with nothing on it, it takes at least 1 minute just to start. I've tried latest BIOS and it's even worse because it gave BSOD. I had to downgrade it (160 was initially) to make it start somehow. Let me explain. After you press the start button it just stays, screen is black and for at least 40 seconds the CPU and RAM LED (Red and Yellow) are on. After that they switch off, the green one for Boot will be on a second or two on and after all are off, then you'll see Win starting up. After Windows starts there's no problem. It works fine, but time is money and I can't wait it over a minute to start. So much money, but it starts like a 486 from the '80s. I've timed it with an older laptop which is on Win 8.1, i5 6th gen, 20 GB RAM and it takes less than 30 seconds. I've changed it to Gygabyte B650 Aorus Elite AX. DO NOT buy MSI !!!
i had a lot of problems with mine and also others, until i manually setup the RAM timings in the BIOS, since then it has been great and boots really quickly, but i will get some gigabyte boards in to see what they are like
User error 😊
Video this long needs time stamps. C'mon its 2023, basic stuff...
youtube are automatically adding them for a lot of videos using AI so should be done soon
never happened lmao
@@Mxru96boo hoo. Be thankful he took time out of his day to help us. Smh
@@Kamehaiku didnt help me xd
@@Mxru96 he helped non-smooth 🧠
Had nothing but problems with MSI x570 tomahawk win11 bios and MSI refused to replace the motherboard
NEVER AGAIN WILL I BUY MSI. DON'T BUY MSI PRODUCTS.
Can someone please help me? Every time I change my RAM speed/frequency I get a black screen. Everything powers on but my monitor gets stuck on "no signal". I am using CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 6000MHz CL30 AMD EXPO (CMH32GX5M2B6000Z30K). Please someone help
do you have them in the right slots
@@mikesunboxingmy pc is so slow on booting I did a clean window