Happy to see you growing your business, and buying good gear. I've used a miller wire feeder for years with my 302 trailblazer and never had an issue. 6011 and 7018 are great, but sometimes wire is what the job calls for. Best of luck buddy!!
You will like the arc reach feature. It's nice when your in the field to be able to adjust voltage at the feeder and not go back and forth to fine tune it. I ran mine on a bobcat 250 for a while then just replaced that with a trailblazer 325. It's the basic 325 but the set up works well. I just need to practice on my end mors.
I have an 8VS and love it. I've ran that .045 Lincoln dual shield wire with great results. For most standard welding I do, I don't like to mess with gas, so I either run .045 T-11 wire or Lincoln NR-212. The 212 is my overall favorite wire. It runs as smooth as butter and is great for out of position work. Unless you need to run the dual shield wire, give the 212 a try. It beats messing with a tank and hose every time. And wind is no worry with it.
It all depends on the structure and the WPS you have been given or if you’ve been given a WPS. Hobart fabshield21b is rated for structural applications up to 3/4”. I actually ran some on the structural job I’m using the suitcase. Since the engineer specs only call for a 70 series filler I can choose whatever I feel works best given the situation. However I like the way duel shield lays out and the fact it’s an x-ray quality weld so I mainly used duel shield on the job.
Hey not sure if that model will but at a old job I was at we had a Miller 12vs that they ran a push pull gun off of. So you could always do that for aluminum welding if that 8vs will support it
Get the esab 215 with a tweco spray master 250 with velocity consumables to start with, you can run it almost any where you have 120v or 240v outlets. Save up some $$$$ you made with the esab for the suit case and get one when you can
Man its amazing how prices have DOUBLED! I have ben binging some of your vids and it makes me sad that you got your champion elite for 2999 plus sale. They are about 5 grand now. I got a miller legend and a champion 10,000 230amp machines to fix up instead of a new machine for now
i have the miller extreme 8VS and the miller 8RC and i think they are both brilliant. in short crcuit the 8 vs is great.I run them both on a miller xmt 304 and have great results . for the age of the xmt 304 it welds as good as a any new machine.the miller suitcases run amazing with it. I have the Miller Optima pulse box set up on the 8RC feeder and it just works so well.It's a cheap way to get mig pulsing and still have a portable suitcase feeder. I agree with you on the weight of the 8vs compared to the bigger suitcase feeder its far easier to move about with the spool in it. I know the small spools are more expensive but if you hold on to your used small spools you can transfer the wire from the bigger spools on to the smalls ones quite easily.
I bought the Miller Extreme 8vs ArcReach same as your machine just slightly different name not sure if they are actually the same tho they look the same just the name is a little different. Lol running it with a miller bobcat 225g plus.
You can weld aluminum with a wire feed system like that. You just need a different gun you need a push-pull system How is it a push-pull system it pushes from the wire feeder and it pulls from the gun. There is a motor in the gun. Just like a spool gun. XR gun Miller makes it
@@derbadortheweldor8940 I've been in the welding field for 20 years. They have an entire dedicated XR Edge system In fact the same components. Are in the Miller 350p? all-in-one Mig
I can’t find any where in their website that says it will work with the suitcase 8. I don’t doubt your experience but if you know where I can find that a link would be awesome.
You should also do a bend test before you do any major repairs are fab. Not to knowledgeable about dual shield but a buddy of mine took a test one ever and seems fine and when the tested it it broke polarity and wrong current FYI
If he had the polarity backwards of course it broke. Duel shield as long as you have the settings mostly correct and you’re using electrode positive you can get very good results with much less effort. I just recently did a cutting and etching on a flat and a vertical weld and it turned out really well when I make my final review video I’m gonna show them in the video.
How well would this suitcase work as a regular mig welder with C25 gas on CC im really thinking about buying one of these to run off of my Hobart engine drive?
nice scoop bro, i got a question. sorry to ask. i just recently got into welding and caught onto it pretty quick. tig mig and stick. i was wanting to open a little mobile welding business maybe fixing farm equipment and irrigation. farming its real big in my area. their a welding shop a few houses down and i dont want them to think im trying to step on any toes. what do you think? the guys down the road have a pretty rowdy setup they do cnc plasma and the whole 9 yards. im just looking to do mobile work any shop work would have to be small parts i dont have a really big shop just a 2 car garage. i just dont want them thinking im trying to take their business.i have a little miller syncrowave 210 i mess with in the garage and a hobart mig and a assortment of grinders,clamps and other miscellaneous stuff i picked up along my learning path, i dont have a engine driven machine but am in the market for one
If they don’t do mobile and you do mobile I wouldn’t worry about it. And the unfortunate truth is you may have to step on their toes. I’d be polite to them but at the end of the day if you offer a service they or not offering and people go to you for that service they can’t be mad at you.
Call me ignorant but why would I use a suitcase feeder vs an old Lincoln flux core welder? I am newish trying to start a mobile business. I just bought a 2015 miller 250 EFI. Thanks.
I had a 12 . Just before they with digital come out . . I don’t think I had it set up right . Keep have Bird nest in the unit . So I ended up selling it I didn’t use it enough . I got a good deal on it from the guy. Still sold it for more then I payed for it . It hade two gun with it . A flux core gun and a gas gun . Payed $1200 sold it for $1800 . With biggest gas bottle you can get .like I saying I don’t think I had it set up right .
Derbador the welder, I noticed the Farm Vehicle license plate. Are you HERE in the Commonwealth of Virginia? If so please reply back. I might have some work; if you want it.
This may be a stupid question, but can’t you plug in a regular mig welder to the engine drive? I’m not trying to be a douche because this thing looks cool, but I’m genuinely wondering why this over just a mig. Thank you.
Yes you can plug a regular mig into an engine drive. But most portable Mig machines have a very small duty cycle. This lets you take advantage of the 100% 250 amp duty cycle of the bobcat. since all the suitcase does is push wire nothing inside heats up. Therefore there’s a 100% duty cycle at 350 amp on the suitcase. This allows you to run wire bigger than 1/16 without running into duty cycle issues or overheating
@@derbadortheweldor8940 sweet... that makes sense. I never thought about duty cycle. I live in Florida too, so duty cycle is probably shit down here. Thanks for the reply.
Excellent review. If you don't mind me asking do you have a mig that can run the large spools. Contact me by email if you like. I ve been a viewer for a while now.
@@derbadortheweldor8940 I see thanks for the quick response!One question wats the feature of consent current use for the the champion elite doesnt feature.
All spool guns use DC+ to weld aluminum. AC is used for tig because it gets its penetration from the DC- side and cleaning from the DC+ side of the sine wave. One of the oldest misconceptions of the welding industry is that you must have AC to weld aluminum.
Happy to see you growing your business, and buying good gear.
I've used a miller wire feeder for years with my 302 trailblazer and never had an issue.
6011 and 7018 are great, but sometimes wire is what the job calls for.
Best of luck buddy!!
I have the 12vs and .072 T8 wire and I like it. Great Video keep up the good work, and keep making videos, 😃😃😃 Thanks
Well put together video buddy.
Derbador you making major improvements. Quite impressive.
You will like the arc reach feature. It's nice when your in the field to be able to adjust voltage at the feeder and not go back and forth to fine tune it. I ran mine on a bobcat 250 for a while then just replaced that with a trailblazer 325. It's the basic 325 but the set up works well. I just need to practice on my end mors.
Did your trailblazer have arc reach also. I assume if my trailblazer doesn't it'll be VS
I have an 8VS and love it. I've ran that .045 Lincoln dual shield wire with great results. For most standard welding I do, I don't like to mess with gas, so I either run .045 T-11 wire or Lincoln NR-212. The 212 is my overall favorite wire. It runs as smooth as butter and is great for out of position work. Unless you need to run the dual shield wire, give the 212 a try. It beats messing with a tank and hose every time. And wind is no worry with it.
Yes but...., the NR212 is NOT rated for impact properties therefore, it can’t be used for structural applications.
@@williamthomas9463 It works for 99% of my work however.
It all depends on the structure and the WPS you have been given or if you’ve been given a WPS. Hobart fabshield21b is rated for structural applications up to 3/4”. I actually ran some on the structural job I’m using the suitcase. Since the engineer specs only call for a 70 series filler I can choose whatever I feel works best given the situation. However I like the way duel shield lays out and the fact it’s an x-ray quality weld so I mainly used duel shield on the job.
I’m gonna have to get me one! Sometimes I just like running wire!
I’m planning to get the pro fax wirefeeder it’s the same as that one for significantly cheaper!
Thinking " down the road" not " across the road" good deal great video, thanks for sharing!
Hey not sure if that model will but at a old job I was at we had a Miller 12vs that they ran a push pull gun off of. So you could always do that for aluminum welding if that 8vs will support it
Dude I’m debating on getting a suitcase for my bobcat!!! I also have my eye on a esab rebel awesome review
Get the esab 215 with a tweco spray master 250 with velocity consumables to start with, you can run it almost any where you have 120v or 240v outlets. Save up some $$$$ you made with the esab for the suit case and get one when you can
Man its amazing how prices have DOUBLED! I have ben binging some of your vids and it makes me sad that you got your champion elite for 2999 plus sale. They are about 5 grand now. I got a miller legend and a champion 10,000 230amp machines to fix up instead of a new machine for now
i have the miller extreme 8VS and the miller 8RC and i think they are both brilliant. in short crcuit the 8 vs is great.I run them both on a miller xmt 304 and have great results . for the age of the xmt 304 it welds as good as a any new machine.the miller suitcases run amazing with it. I have the Miller Optima pulse box set up on the 8RC feeder and it just works so well.It's a cheap way to get mig pulsing and still have a portable suitcase feeder. I agree with you on the weight of the 8vs compared to the bigger suitcase feeder its far easier to move about with the spool in it. I know the small spools are more expensive but if you hold on to your used small spools you can transfer the wire from the bigger spools on to the smalls ones quite easily.
Im asking cuz ima fan of the champion elite set up.
Do you have to ground the generator/welder (tb 325). Or just run a positive cable to the suitcase?
Can you weld aluminum with a suitcase 8v or 12v?
I wish you did a part of hooking it up I have a Hobart champion elite 260 and wanna get one but down know how it would hook up to this one
Looking to buy a suitcase welder to run off my Champion elite, with your experience do you recommend it or not
😂😂😂🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸. Sound like a sales man! I almost went and bought me another one!💯💰🇺🇸🤔🤔😂😎
What’s your opinion on the Hobart multiprocessor 200.
I had the same idea of trying to run ALUMINUM through it, haven't done it yet.
I bought the Miller Extreme 8vs ArcReach same as your machine just slightly different name not sure if they are actually the same tho they look the same just the name is a little different. Lol running it with a miller bobcat 225g plus.
Is the champion elite turned all the way up and then the the miller regulates as needed?
Hello buddy I thought u said if welding mig or soild wire u will just set the 211 up.
Do you plug your negative cable or positive cable into your suitcase when running flux core?
Woul you recommend the Miller 12vs extreme or the one you have?
I've got that one. I can't adjust my Vaults on the miller. I've got to adjust it from my generators
What Cain the wire used for structural?
I have the same set up you have bobcat 250 diesel suitcase and spool gun
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Does your suit case have pre flow & post flow
I run .035 and 1/16 fcaw wire in my suitcase
You can weld aluminum with a wire feed system like that. You just need a different gun you need a push-pull system How is it a push-pull system it pushes from the wire feeder and it pulls from the gun. There is a motor in the gun. Just like a spool gun. XR gun Miller makes it
I don’t think miller makes a push pull for a suitcase and honestly I wouldn’t want one in the field.
@@derbadortheweldor8940 I've been in the welding field for 20 years. They have an entire dedicated XR Edge system In fact the same components. Are in the Miller 350p? all-in-one Mig
I can’t find any where in their website that says it will work with the suitcase 8. I don’t doubt your experience but if you know where I can find that a link would be awesome.
XR alumafeed suitcase Type that in the Miller website. It's a whole system. It's just like your arcreach except it's for aluminum. Go have a look.
@@derbadortheweldor8940 Also, those systems are for big jobs. And I mean big big jobs. It'll run off the Hobart. I've rented one.
Goodevening, can I hook this up on a miller bobcat 260?
You should also do a bend test before you do any major repairs are fab.
Not to knowledgeable about dual shield but a buddy of mine took a test one ever and seems fine and when the tested it it broke polarity and wrong current FYI
If he had the polarity backwards of course it broke. Duel shield as long as you have the settings mostly correct and you’re using electrode positive you can get very good results with much less effort. I just recently did a cutting and etching on a flat and a vertical weld and it turned out really well when I make my final review video I’m gonna show them in the video.
How well would this suitcase work as a regular mig welder with C25 gas on CC im really thinking about buying one of these to run off of my Hobart engine drive?
I made a video about that around two years ago using a Miller S 32P. I would assume it works about the same.
Can I run a 12rc suitcase on a bobcat 225?
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nice scoop bro, i got a question. sorry to ask. i just recently got into welding and caught onto it pretty quick. tig mig and stick. i was wanting to open a little mobile welding business maybe fixing farm equipment and irrigation. farming its real big in my area. their a welding shop a few houses down and i dont want them to think im trying to step on any toes. what do you think? the guys down the road have a pretty rowdy setup they do cnc plasma and the whole 9 yards. im just looking to do mobile work any shop work would have to be small parts i dont have a really big shop just a 2 car garage. i just dont want them thinking im trying to take their business.i have a little miller syncrowave 210 i mess with in the garage and a hobart mig and a assortment of grinders,clamps and other miscellaneous stuff i picked up along my learning path, i dont have a engine driven machine but am in the market for one
If they don’t do mobile and you do mobile I wouldn’t worry about it. And the unfortunate truth is you may have to step on their toes. I’d be polite to them but at the end of the day if you offer a service they or not offering and people go to you for that service they can’t be mad at you.
@@derbadortheweldor8940 thanks brother, hope you are having a very productive week. love the vids
Call me ignorant but why would I use a suitcase feeder vs an old Lincoln flux core welder? I am newish trying to start a mobile business. I just bought a 2015 miller 250 EFI. Thanks.
Whats the cost of one of these?
I had a 12 . Just before they with digital come out . . I don’t think I had it set up right . Keep have Bird nest in the unit . So I ended up selling it I didn’t use it enough . I got a good deal on it from the guy. Still sold it for more then I payed for it . It hade two gun with it . A flux core gun and a gas gun . Payed $1200 sold it for $1800 . With biggest gas bottle you can get .like I saying I don’t think I had it set up right .
Derbador the welder, I noticed the Farm Vehicle license plate. Are you HERE in the Commonwealth of Virginia? If so please reply back. I might have some work; if you want it.
I’m in Louisburg NC and I frequently travel to VA. The truck I got from VA that’s why it has the fam use tag.
Would you be interested in another arcreach 12 like new . With Bernard gun
How much?
This may be a stupid question, but can’t you plug in a regular mig welder to the engine drive? I’m not trying to be a douche because this thing looks cool, but I’m genuinely wondering why this over just a mig. Thank you.
Yes you can plug a regular mig into an engine drive. But most portable Mig machines have a very small duty cycle. This lets you take advantage of the 100% 250 amp duty cycle of the bobcat. since all the suitcase does is push wire nothing inside heats up. Therefore there’s a 100% duty cycle at 350 amp on the suitcase. This allows you to run wire bigger than 1/16 without running into duty cycle issues or overheating
@@derbadortheweldor8940 sweet... that makes sense. I never thought about duty cycle. I live in Florida too, so duty cycle is probably shit down here. Thanks for the reply.
No problem
Have you ever heard of the Hobart Porta Feed 17?
I haven’t but it looks like a Miller s32p it might be the same thing
Will it run 45 wire?
That and 1/16 is all I run
Now see this is a more gooder deal.
More Gooder. Yay!
You must protect your harm i see have a lot burning
Excellent review. If you don't mind me asking do you have a mig that can run the large spools. Contact me by email if you like. I ve been a viewer for a while now.
Is there a reason for the suitcase
The suitcase has a better gun and duty cycle. The gun for the mm211 overheats quickly when running dual shield.
@@derbadortheweldor8940 I see thanks for the quick response!One question wats the feature of consent current use for the the champion elite doesnt feature.
I thought the chaimpain elite was just a DC machine. Can't weld aluminum with dc.
All spool guns use DC+ to weld aluminum. AC is used for tig because it gets its penetration from the DC- side and cleaning from the DC+ side of the sine wave. One of the oldest misconceptions of the welding industry is that you must have AC to weld aluminum.
I don't get why people just dont run a wireless remote. For $1500
211s will break down and cost $1000+ each time. Then the fans from miller will be mismatched, which takes a few more weeks to get back. F a 211
My 211 has been through hell and keep on kicking so I don’t know what your taking about
My board went out twice. First time was just after the warranty expired.
should have bought a chinese suitcase, chinese welding products are superior