The part that scares me the most is: imagine being hit by this absolute massive piece of tank as a pedestrian. This thing is sharp and stiff all around.
This always reminds me of how people are always talking about how “old cars were built tougher” and showcase one of them hitting a barrier and the car basically shrugging it off but the person inside has turned into paste
No, older car isn't tougher and they're not dangerous because of that. It's not crumple zone that's slowing the passenger down (you wouldn't want that), but mainly airbags. Considering that most car had its chasis stopped before passenger hit the airbag (including cybertruck), there's basically no difference on how large/long it takes to crumple as long as the passenger cell remain rigid. An effective crumple zone is mainly there to prevent passenger cell deformation from crushing its passenger (cybertruck chasis is pretty strong, so...) I like how so many people just see the crash test and goes "ohhh, energy transfer bad", like they even know what they're talking about. It's middle school physics man...
Exactly. It's true thatl frontal isn't that bad - bc the Cybertruck has traditional aluminum crumple zone. For that side impact, you'd rather be in the Ford that "looks" worse.
The old cars had one thing going for them .... mass. I had a big car. A 1977 Lincoln town car with a big ole 460 big block. Thing was like a tank. Thick sheet metal. Empty weight (no driver, no gas) was something like 4880 lbs. Of course when a car like that was to hit an econo box weighing in like 1/2 the weight, the favor is going to be in favor of the large car. One thing older cars were really poor at was rollover. The A & B pillars on some of the older cars were really thin and flimsy in a rollover. The pillars on new cars are made to support the whole weight of the vehicle in a roll over that puts the car upside down.
NOTHING built today will be operable in 40 years. Almost everything operable today built 40 plus years ago, will still be operable. It's humans fault we are so soft we have to nerf our engineering to protect the ones nature is trying to eliminate from the gene pool.
@@ryboi1337 1:49 Guy is saying a fist is more dangerous than being stabbed with a knife. More surface area means more dissipation. The entire suite of crumpling features of a car impacting a wall with its full mass does indeed have a different display of dissipation than a car impacting a barrier that actuates 1/2 to 1/3 of a car's crumpling capabilities with its full mass behind it. The former was the standard, we could argue is the best case scenario, before someone conceived of the latter decades later, arguably a real world scenario, and car engineers and manufacturers had to devise better means of supplying more crumpling capabilities and reinforcement for the event where less was available. Former standard did not test side impacts, someone realized t-boning happens and started to test it, and since doing so we've implemented side airbags. Analogize this statement with the hypothetical of if Tesla didn't present a side impact test and imagine a youtuber saying 'It's much easier to dissipate energy with a side impact....than not being crashed into the side' okay the analogy sort of falls apart, sort of like the statement where a third of the car dissipates more energy than the full car falls apart.
Engineer here: When someone speaks of "space grade steel", he instantly loses every bit of credibility to me. Can you please refer to weight in the unit of waterbottles and space in the unit of footballfields from now on? Thanks!
He's a tesla fanboy trying to show everyone that Cybertrucks aren't bad in one, extremely specific way. He's basically saying "look guys! The Cybertruck actually _does_ do the bare minimum! It's made of SpaceGradeSteelTM (i'd put my money on it being shit cheap stainless steel lmao), after all".
Fun fact: The German "Car License / Class B" allows you to drive vehicles up to 3.5 Tons in weight. This includes the vehicle, driver, passenger and everything else you put into the car. thus, vehicles like the Hummer EV couldn't even be driven without the small (literal) truck license. This would also make the "Beast" problematic. That would make just under 400kg of added load kinda making it super impractical. (metric tonnes)
It can be "typisiert" to 3.5 tons. That is usually made for recreational vehicles. As long as the weight of the car including all passengers stays below 3.5 tons. 2995 + 5 x 80 = 3.395 kg. Acceptable. But then you could not tow anything.
Same in Italy so I guess this is an EU-wide rule. Max weight with regular class B driving license is 3.5 tons including everything, however it is +/- 5%, you can add another 150 kg allowance
Don't forget, that vehicles with more than 3,5t of max weight are limited to 80km/h in Europe. So the Cyber Truck being 3,1t but having a load capacity of 1t in the truck bed equals 4,1t of max weight. C1 class drivers license needed and limitation to 80km/h.
@@theagentsmith Its still more with a trailer. That means CT must be a truck with truck license and 80 (100 in Poland...) top speed. I just calculated M3, MY, CT on my longest route i drive regularly. The CT is 2 hours slower than the 3. But fully loaded. And as a truck it does not have to follow the passenger car UN/ECE rules. It will be interesting to see how this conundrum will be solved.
@@CerberusTenshi the Cyber Truck will most likely be classified as car though. And the max total weight limit will be reduced to 3500 kg. That is on paper, if people will actually keep to that... probably not.
It’s not about how the car holds up in a crash but its ability to provide the lowest deceleration possible so that your fragile human body doesn’t experience 100G forces.
Like he said in the vid, with how heavy/Dense it is with such a Low center of gravity you can be assured that just about anything it hits is getting yeeted. Very few things are liable to be able to stop that thing on a dime so deceleration is probably not going to be as big of a danger as you might think...
Your assuming we are hitting a immovable object. In my ram I hit someone going and 10mph with a 10 tone dump trailer hooked up and their vehicle didn’t effect my momentum at all. They where send flying 10 feet and the car was like half the length it was before but my truck only had a dent and a bit of a twist to the bumper.
The human body can survie 88gs of force in an insta stop to 0 speed, the air force tested it in the 60s F1 pilots can survive a 150mph crash into a wall, even with the crumpling zone, what do you think experience more Gs, mr Joe crashing at 50mph or an F1 pilot at 150mph? Honestly what keeps you alive is the passenger area not crumpling and the airbags softening the impact, the crumpling zone is nore of a marketing tactic for "cheap materias that give up easily"
well, if you open your eyes, and watch the proper comparison with the lightning 150, you will see, that those passengers go splat just as fast mate, Just don't drive like a fuck head
The frontal offset test doesn't dissipate energy more effectively. The front offset test was actually developed because the insurance industry felt the full frontal test was not challenging enough. I find it interesting that you disparged "internet experts" while doing the same thing.
The offset test dissipates energy more gradually, over a longer distance, producing a fewer G's on the car/passengers. If you choose to not use the term "effectively" to that, so be it.
@@ScottSuhr-l8m total energy dissipation isn't what is important here. What is important is the dissipation of energy on the passengers. A vehicle being able to dissipate 50Gs of force means fuck-all if 49 of them are dissipated into the passengers. It's the difference between taping an egg to a sledgehammer and hitting concrete with it and taping a soda can to the front of the sledgehammer with the egg on the back and doing the same. One of those eggs will be intact, and it ain't the first one.
@@ScottSuhr-l8m it imparts the same force through a smaller area increasing the pressure across the fewer components disappating the energy. It's a harder (and more representative) test.
Exactly lol, Muskrat fanboy successful clickbait 😂 There’s no technical analysis, just another “Xpert” making a video pretending to be intelligent. Simple unbiased observation and common sense is enough to tell how unsafe this Tesla scam is compared to real trucks. Look at the snapped neck in the full frontal test. The fact that it didn’t move in the side test means the energy went into the cabin whereas when the F150 almost flips, that’s the truck converting the energy into physical movement of a few tonnes of weight. 😂 This guy can’t do basic physics and judges safety by how big the dent is 😂😂😂
the dude has no idea about basic physics, taht much is shown in the first few minutes when he asked, after the side ways impact "which would you rather be in" reffering to how the "cybertruck withstood" the impact. All the force of the impact was put into the cybertruck, while the ford dissipated a good chunck of it into the air by moving. that is simple physics yet he failed at that
yeah i know, a full fleet recall, this video has the potential to age as well as milk... half a year later body panels are flying off, windshield wipers too, body damage from water alone(rust and de-coloration), they're getting stuck in all kinds of 'easy' off-road conditions... the trend right now is to polish them mirror finish, like how idiotic is to reduce their visibility to that degree..
@@duroxkilo Every one of your items is mis-stated or at best severely exaggerated: no body panels have flown off -- only the "rubber" flexible seals along the rear tonneau cover; windshield wipers had a simple software problem regarding their movement; the body is not being damaged - it gets a little patina similar to a stainless appliance -- and idiots have been wrapping cars with mirror finishes for years (NOT common, or trending in any case with CT -- I'm in SoCal and I have yet to see a polished CT -- I agree with the idiocy when they do that wrap); ANY vehicle can get stuck in soft sand -- the ford towing it out was on hard-pack. If the positions were reversed, the CT would be towing the Ford. -Why aren't you railing about the 462,869 Kias recalled in the same week for a FIRE hazard: "Kia America has issued a “park outside” recall for 462,869 model year 2020-2024 Telluride vehicles because of a risk of fire while parked or driving." www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases/kia-telluride-recall-fire-risk), let me guess, you don't like Elon. . . -Or the 116,020 SUVs Mercedes recalled for electrical FIRE risk: "Mercedes-Benz has issued a recall covering 116,020 SUVs across several models, including vehicles by Mercedes-AMG and Mercedes-Maybach. The recall covers an issue with a 48-volt ground connection under the passenger seat, which left unattended, could result in a fire." www.caranddriver.com/news/a60257844/mercedes-benz-48-volt-grounding-recall/ Those are much more severe problems that a wiper that works intermittently. . . on a few thousand CTs. Try to understand the issues and put them in context before embarrassing yourself on line. . .
@@ScottSuhr-l8m yeah i'm not reading all that but thanks for the effort. i did see pictures a few months ago, it was all over X w/ a rear panel actually missing. in fact i just checked again after reading your first paragraph and yes entire panels can detach.
@@duroxkilo That's the main problem, people don't want to read anything that goes against what they believe, irregardless of what's actually factual, only to continue to spread misinformation because it's the cool thing to do and because none of their friends like Tesla's or other EVs.
On all new trucks, there seems to be no limit on the height of headlights. People have become very complacent about dimming high beams and now with these trucks, blinding headlights have become a huge problem. You might consider doing a video about that problem too.
The headlights are in the bumper, the horizontal line of the cybertruck is a daytime running light. So for that truck specifically at least it won't be a problem.
I also have found this to be a big problem, especially in Australia when people add suplumentry driving lights. I have to hit the brakes and stop because I litterally cannot see what is going on around me, I'm blind.
Yeap. Not sure if there is a limit for height in every country but I can confirm this is getting to be a problem, especially with more powerful headlamps. I have to drive on Sunday's at evening going back home in the motorway and I did this with an older Passat but gave up using that car because all the SUVs full with weekend luggage would blind me while overtaking and started using only my C4 which is much higher....It worked fine but now I am starting to have the same problem with that car too. SUVs and such have much hire headlamps and so when they overtake you, the light reflects on your driver's side rearview mirror and tends to blind you. I don't have a problem when they are behind me, the auto dimming mirror solves that and I also don't have a problem when at a highway and they are coming in the opposite direction but when they overtake you in a dual carriage motorway it is terrible.
Some of it is complacency, some of it is that modern LED lights are often a lot brighter and a lot more directional than the old ones were and a lot of them are just not aimed properly. I remember when I needed to re-aim my motorcycle headlights after changing the bulbs and the local regulations here are extremely hard to understand. The gist is that they should be pointed slightly down, but by how much isn't something that is at all clear, especially with the increased variety of vehicles that people are riding around in.
the scariest thing in this video is 16000 pedal misapplications annually in the US alone. like, i’m not a very experienced driver, have been driving for just over two years. however, the thought of the existence of so many people doing “>press pedal >car not doing what intended >press same pedal harder” truly scares the shit out of me
@@Rocketman0407 Well they won't get the "Darwin Award" if they sit in a Cybertruck because they can just plow over pedestrians or small cars without even getting a scratch. It seems insane to me that you need a special license to drive a moped or scooter but not for this! I guess preventing someone from harming themselves is more important then preventing them from harming others.
The reason the Cyber Truck is banned in the UK is because any smaller scale car crash can be fatal to the person on the receiving end of the cyber truck. Its secure but it will wreck another car.
Exactly This car is very safe such a big impulse won’t come to a stop suddenly. So that point where the passangers brain is separating from the skull when crashing is not important (as long as u don’t drive against another tank)
Good nic. Anyway, u know what they say about men with big cars? You know what they say in Africa being the only thing that is not big in America? Yes u know
thats such a weird reason to ban a vehicle. Busses and trucks exist there dont they not? but believe it or not if those massive vehicles get into accidents with smaller cars, the smaller cars are also gonna get destroyed so like what?
Former paramedic, current insurance risk manager here. Quite the discussion in the comments. Many good points, but also a few understandable misunderstandings and some considerations missing altogether. I just want to inform everyone about "the third collision". The first is the vehicle hitting something, the second is the body hitting the interior of the car (which seat belts and airbags deal with) and the third is the inner organs crashing inside the body. So, the faster these are travelling when the body itself suddenly stops, the more dead you'll be. Ligaments will rip straight through the organs they keep in place. Organs will smash against your rib cage or even the skin that is suddenly stationary because it has hit the dash or hopefully the airbag. This is what the crumple zone deals with. It's there to make the breaking distance of your body as long as possible, while the rigid cell around the interior tries to stop physical objects spearing through or smashing your whole body to pulp in one, rather swift, go. The crumple zone is about reducing the G force your body is subjected to in a crash. The seat belts help you slow down more in tandem with the car, stopping you from smashing into the dash and the steering wheel. An airbag helps cushioning the last bit of retardation. Also alleviating the stretching strain on your spine. (This is also helped by the active seat belts in modern cars, that strap you in just as the crash starts - or before, in the case of very modern cars - and then it will release a bit of slack, first and foremost so your ribs will not break and puncture your lungs and/or your heart. Yes, they have thought of that, too.) But an airbag where seat belts are not in use (or you sit too close to the wheel) is now a double Mike Tyson punch in the face. 600kgs vs 300kgs, or thereabouts. Not recommended. I worked at a crash site where a family of five in an American style van (Chevrolet, I think) collided with a Hyundai Accent. When the difference in weight is that big, the outcome is almost given, and the weight adds to the safety in that one instance. In fact, the 12-year old in the van ONLY survived because they had a trailer - a camper van - behind them, pushing the van forwards another few inches before it stopped, reducing the G forces on the family in the van. This according to the surgeon who opened up the kid to deal with internal bleeding. In this case, the Hyundai was stopped short AND pushed back a bit, making the G forces even higher than if they had just rammed into a mountain. They did not survive. Neither would anyone in the case of two very heavy cars with extremely rigid bodies colliding at 60mph, both stopping short. In theory, if they were identical in every way and one of them were heavier than the other - or even travelled at a higher speed than the other! - the people in that car would be better off than those in the slower OR lighter car. But looking at traffic at large, everyone driving as fast as possible in a car as heavy as possible is not gonna make us all safer. With regards to older cars, I have seen enough steering columns lodged in broken chests to prefer newer models for long distance travel. I drive my veteran carefully for many reasons. Sorry for writing such a long comment, but even this is a fragment of all the factors and aspects of collision safety. It is a tremendously complex field if you want to be detailed about it.
Yeah, I’m very peevy in my car around heavy vehicles for this reason. I prefer smaller cars, but that doesn’t seem to be an American trend. Stroking the ego for large vehicles that barely get used for their intended purpose. Good job, Murica.
People just don't like Elon Musk and try their best to attack him wherever and because they're too stupid to find good points they just have to make shit up
When I was still working as an engineer in that specific area, strikter pedestrian safety regulations for the US market were already anounced. I would have to check what the current regulations are in the US. One thing I can tell you, is that you will never see one of those things on european streets. By design there is absolutely no chance that they will pass current regulations.
How are pedestrian safety regulationsfor small trucks? Also it would still be able to be driven on the streets, the Mustang front and hood design f.e. had to be redesigned ( lower nose, no hood vents ) so it could be sold here but you could still get US imports registered before official sales.
In my neck of the woods, the CT's curb weight requires you to have a commercial driver's licence (same with the F150) - so it will likely never sell (never mind the fact that we simply have zero EV infra).
From what I heard is that at least for France the tesla truck will not be legal as is on different levels : the tint on the glass (easy fix), the weight (debatable, not sure yet), the sharp edges of the body and that one will be most likely the reason why will never see that ugly thing in France and most likely the whole EU.
An engineer and you spelled stricter "strikter"? Were you engineering Tonka trucks by chance? I don't think tesla was designing this for europe because they disregarded certain things that would make it legal in europe as far as shape and weight. Its designed for the US market, clearly. They love massive overkill trucks, and this is bulletproof... Personally i think the cybertruck was created to expand Teslas fan base to those who are a little more on the redneck side. As soon as some back country folk get to unload a magazine in the side of a cybertruck, they're gonna fall in love.
The cyber truck is a Gucci shirt. You’re not driving it to pick up groceries, you’re driving it too be the center of attention while buying your groceries 😂
@@myetoob23 Haha come on. So the body had nothing to do with it? It’s the same technology as the old one they both drive solo and got the same defective dash.
This is a defense video disguised as a review, I was expecting some factual data but all I got was "well those guys are just as bad, how come no one is talking about them"?
Exactly lol, Muskrat fanboy successful clickbait 😂 There’s no technical analysis, just another “Xpert” making a video pretending to be intelligent. Simple unbiased observation and common sense is enough to tell how unsafe this Tesla scam is compared to real trucks. Look at the snapped neck in the full frontal test. The fact that it didn’t move in the side test means the energy went into the cabin whereas when the F150 almost flips, that’s the truck converting the energy into physical movement of a few tonnes of weight. 😂 This guy can’t do basic physics and judges safety by how big the dent is 😂😂😂
the thing that scares me the most about these is, i drive a VW beetle convertible. Its a small car. Meanwhile, Tesla literally suggested to people to remove their side mirrors for looks. In a 3 ton truck. edit: I am well aware there are cameras which are meant to replace the physical mirrors. I am also an auto technician who has seen many cars, some only a few years old, with broken cameras and sensors. I like cameras and sensors as a backup, but do not want to rely on them.
At least, the cameras remain, so it's not that big difference than any modern semi with the camera mirrors. The question is, where are you going to see the picture from those cameras. I hope, not on the center screen, which would be stupid AF.
??? As much criticisms as Tesla deserves... this is NOT one of them. Removing mirrors is to make the car more aerodynamic, the whole electric car segment has been trying to get rid of mirrors in favor of camera/monitor in order to gain more efficiency... This should have been done a long time ago with gas cars as well, but efficiency is nowhere near as critical for gas car buyers, and so the regulation has stayed requiring them..
video summary: the crash tests are completely fine and up to standard. He is “horrified” because of how much damage this beast can do to other people/cars in crashes
@@Texan_BoyKisser Yeah, it also has a person that is payed on how fast he can get there, and is most likely tired or doing other stuff. I have seen people clipping toe nails, reading, watching TV and making food on a hot plate just to name a few. So it's not like the licenses guaranties anything really.
and you forgot to add the arm chair engineer diploma bro. The amount of bullshit on the internet abt teslas and cybertrucks is fucking wild. The amount of things they say abt the cybertruck that are COMPLETELY NORMAL like not being rated by the NHTSA is crazy. ppl rly need to stop doing research (and voicing their opinions) with a conclusion in mind. Evidence first, then conclusions, never the otherway around.
"the driver kept pressing the accelerator thinking it was the brake" How do you even get a driving license if that's your level of control over your car?
I think it could happen to anyone, although it’s probably a pretty low probability. You have to keep in mind that when it happens, there’s going to be some intial confusion and the inner ear can be really deceptive in those situations. Hell, there have been some passenger jet crashes because a pilot was so convinced by his inner ear that he refused to believe what the instruments were telling them. I understand the sentiment, it’s really difficult to believe that your brain can malfunction sometimes, but we are all imperfect organisms that evolved through an imperfect process on an African Savanna
@@vinsanity982Let's just decelerate from 20 to 0 mph...oh wait, that looks exactly the same as if I'm driving with 200 mph seeing houses and cars flying by not being able to steer properly 😂
So what is making AI driver, somehow affiliated with Tesla, an expert? I don’t think any argument is directly disproven by saying „Oh this would only be the worst scenario possible“ 😂
the partial crash test is to prevent cheating because cars were getting better at full frontal but did poorly in head on collisions. Getting both right is important so would prefer to see the full crash tests instead.
Exactly, also, correct me if I am wrong, but partial crashes are way way more common than head on collisions. Also the way he said "Your strict pedestrian impact testing", those are not strict as they could be, look at any modern car that's being sold in the EU. Cybertruck is a moving blade and should not be allowed anywhere as of now.
@@samuelbucher5189 and that is what did not happen. In a full frontal the trucks will crumple less because there is more mass to crumple. I've had a full frontal with a concrete barrier before, the old car stopped it easily without much Gs on me. One of the key features cars have in a full frontal is to lengthen the collision time by going up as we know from trigonometry that results in a longer path. However partial tests are more important if you care about road safety because thats whats going to happen if you hit a tree or have a head on collision and thats why this comparison shown in the video is incomplete or inconclusive. The heavier the vehicle the harder it will be to lift up as well in a full frontal to extend the crash duration. Ofcourse being crash incompatible is a problem but the cybertruck seems to have a lower bumper than the other display trucks that pretend to be a full semi. At least it isnt pretending to be a full semi.
When i realised how ridiculously massive and heavy trucks (and cars in general) are getting nowadays, my respect for the old, small but surprisingly practical trucks like the Datsun, old f-150 trucks and even the Japanese kei trucks got higher than ever.
I duly concur. Several years ago, I found and bought a 2004 Tacoma, regular cab with over 56k miles, in great condition. Glad I did when I did then. To this day, it still has under 100k miles (typically just my work truck, to and from work), and still runs great (doing all the maintenance and upkeep myself). Thought about selling it a few times (have gotten some great offers for it), but then they just don't make these smaller trucks anymore. Only thing I would've wished it was was a 5-speed instead. Ah well. No loss there. Some of these newer, bigger trucks look pretty darn good. But there is something about the smaller trucks of yesteryears that just can't be beat.
@@harryv6752 ironically, those new bigger trucks have smaller flatbeds despite their massive size. Why? Because nowadays, a truck is more of a status symbol rather than a workhorse. People buy these trucks (like the cybertruck featured in the video) because they think it makes them look badass. What's the point of having a 3 ton road-legal tank with a 0-60 mph of less than 3 seconds, but only using it to drive your kids to school?
@@Enola_Straight "makes them look badass" sums it up perfectly. The CT is an amazing feat of engineering, but the people buying and driving it won't be working in construction lol. It'll be those who bask in the sun shining out of Elon's butthole, where everything he touches is amazing, who will be lining up to buy this truck. It will be massive in the USA and I imagine the Arab countries will buy it by the shitload as well. Europe? Well, we have smaller streets and less worship of the massive car (it still exists don't worry) so it won't be appearing over here in it's present incarnation anyway. We have all these silly regulations to protect other road users from pedestrians to cars, and the CT hitting a normal car would be instant death to anyone in the non steel vehicle. As for pedestrians, bikers, cyclists? Sliced and diced baby with those sexy sharp edges. But USA is #1 so anything goes. Would love to take a ride and even test drive one of these on a track though :) Not down on Tesla per se, just think the CT is kinda... well silly when it comes to practical road use.
@@Enola_Straight Yeah, totally. Faking the funk but really not about the funk at all. Had a buddy who bought a 2022 Forerunner that he decked it out. Raised it. Threw on a winch, light bar and light pods, some big wheels, gnarly tires, a roof rack, and was still planning on doing more to it. I used to clown on him like, "Bro, so when are you takin' that thing off road? You doing all this to it and it ain't even been on dirt yet. You're not even an outdoors guy." He'd typically respond with, "Just waiting on you." And I'd throw back to him, "Sh1t. That's YOUR car. I'm always out there on the weekends. Where' YOU at?" It was funny. He babied it like crazy, rarely drove it, and yet was hooking it up for some big off roading adventure he would never go on. And though funny, people will do what they will with their money, practical or not. I tend to only spend my money on things that are useful for me. Fruck the image or trying to look cool or baddass. That's just whack.
As someone who rides my bike everywhere and goes home at 11pm I have started riding with sunglasses because of how bright the headlights are on most vehicles, the problem is that at the end of the day I'm forced to ride on the road in some areas, and being blinded every 30 seconds by a passing truck driving with their brights on is probably the worst part of my day, they don't even need it, there's brand new streetlights on this road
There are also stupid people using their high beam headlights when cars are coming on the other side. A reminder to those people: the law strictly prohibits this behavior. I got very unlucky recently because of that.
I would guess they are not the high beams some or most of the time. its so easy to upgrade your headlights. My wifes Lacrosse falls into this really bright category with a simple HID light upgrade. I didnt know what I was doing at the time of order. They are being downgraded soon.
@@Andrew-FKF HID lights have the benefit that you can still see the pattern, but with the high beams it's just one giant glare. In my unlucky case, it was that one giant glare.
I would wait for independent crash testing, it's hard to say by eye how the Cybertruck performs. That being said, Cybertruck appears to have a shorter period of slowing down the passenger compartment in the fair comparison with F-150, which means greater forces on the passengers.
@@deus1655 Which is primarily limited by the length of the crumple zone. Strength is the only other significant variable, and determines the smoothness and slope of the deceleration: too weak and there is a sudden spike of deceleration when the crumple zone 'bottoms out', too strong and the deceleration is too rapid to make much difference to the forces on the passengers.
There is no rear axle on the cyber truck. He said that as a joke for smooth brain folks like you. He explains it within the next 60 seconds of the video. You'd know that if you didn't have the attention span of an acorn.@@strangelet4588
FYI it's actually harder to dissipate the force for the front overlap test as the force is focused on one corner of the vehicle. This is why the overlap test was introduced - vehicles had been acing the frontal crash test, but in the real world, occupants were getting injured badly.
@@ashwinnaidoo796nah I think he just explained improperly. He meant the small overlap is obviously going to crunch in more than a full frontal, not that it’s easier to pass. But in the real world, a full squared frontal is insanely rare unless you have no self preservation.
The hummer was absolutely complained about. The fear wasn’t quite as wide spread bc there was a concern no one would buy one anyways but the weight of these vehicles are approaching numbers that some residential infrastructure like Suva urban streets and driveways lifespans will literally be altered if this continues.
The thing I fear the most is shitty drivers like how tf people get petals mixed up and press it for that long and don’t even try changing it like wtf 😭
@@MrPacman64 then you weren't following the conversation. 9k pounds and 0-60 in 3s, there were non-stop discussions in car circles for a while about how dangerous of a recipe it was, not to mention its size. However cybertruck took all the attention away because it looks sharp enough to cut a pedestrian in half, so people (outside of car circles this time) are concerned
@@davidsucks922 my point was that I didn't have to follow the convo about cyber truck because everyone made a big stink about it... I gave equal attention to both and all I've seen is cyber truck hate
partial overlap crash tests are actually much more difficult and introduced later because full frontal impacts were too easy and not representative of real world crashes because much less area is available to absorb the impact energy
if liveleak has taught me anything, it's that chinamen are absolute geniuses at turning good things into absolute trainwrecks. but yeah, special licensing won't do shit without making other problems even worse. a far better solution is one that tesla are already moving towards, that being the use of ai in the cars, since ai are actually reliable, and because it would cost significantly less to install an ai into some threshold of the percentage of cars on the road, vs forcing every single person who drives to take some test from a slow af government agency or whatever.
I live in the Czech Republic and sometimes see imported trucks like F150, and they are effing HUGE. I am always super cautious around them, and I cannot even comprehend how you guys in the US can drive around these things daily. Be safe you all.
That's because you drive Fiat , 😂Scoda or Trabant size clown cars for gas economy because fuel is equivilant to what? $7.00+ a gallon. If you as an older person can exit one of these vehicles GOOD ON YOU! At 6'4" I own a PT Cruiser , Nissan Rogue and a F150 crew cab pu. The Nissan is horrible as for passenger or a driver PT is a convertible so rear seat is only an option unless you have kids and is not as bad to exit so guess which one gets used the most? Btw all get about the same milage so no advantage to geting yourself all in a knot to drive the smaller cars.
@@matthofnagel3992lmao, any modern small car will get 2x or even 3x the efficiency of an oversized truck nobody needs on a daily. Trucks have their use, but most people in the usa who own trucks don’t need the bed capacity, it’s only for their ego. Also you forgot to mention parking as a huge factor. You will really feel those 13L/100km when oil prices will eventually rise.
@@matthofnagel3992 Weird how there are almost none of these dumbass trucks in Czech republic yet most if not all elderly people that drive a car just drive something with a seat a bit higher or just have it adjusted up, so they have an easier time getting out. You're out here showing europeans a solution to a problem that doesn't exist. Noone in their right mind needs a massive pick up truck - Europe is a prime example of that.
@@tdg9281 You don't know what some people do. Some have trucks for certain jobs.. hauling big trailers... campers... lmao. What makes you so important that you determine that everyone doesn't need a certain vehicle for a certain reason? Lmao. Not everyone is a fragile ❄❄❄❄. People who own them don't need the beds for the space? Why don't they? Each and every single person doesn't need the space, then share your all knowing knowledge as to why. What's the alternative for each and every one of them? 'OnLY FoR ThEIr eGO' Nice 5 year old cartoon character pfp 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@Asymmetrical-Saggin A lot of people with big ass trucks are for their fragile ego or to over compensate for something. Yeah some people need trucks for work, but there's definitely a huge chunk of people buying trucks and large SUVs just for the sake of "owning the road"
I can answer this for you. Inexperience in one field does not mean you're inexperienced in others. Plus, you will get old as well and earlier than you like, you will be in similar situations, just because your body gets old and so does your brain. Still, I'm also faszinated with crashes that seem so unnecessary.
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@@leandergihr9598 so a guitar player that plays the guitar for 20 years is worse than one who plays it for 1 year? i dont get your logic. you should know what the break & what the gas is if u drive a car on a regular basis. no matter the age. and if u are so old u cant do it anymore u just shouldnt enter the driver seat of a car anyways.
I've got 5 years behind the wheel of my Tesla - almost exclusively driven in 1 pedal mode. I also have an ICE suv that (shocker) requires both pedals be used. It takes a tiny, insignificant, momentary lapse in muscle memory - not attention - muscle memory, and bam, you are now rocketing forward. I've had it happen once, for about a tenth of a second, and I nearly drove into traffic. One pedal creeping forward, decided I wouldn't make a gap safely, released the accelerator (causing full regen braking) and thought 'I wont stop in time with just regen' and put my foot down abruptly thinking it was the brake - since I was currently feeling braking forces while my foot was on *a* pedal. That's all it takes.
I drive a sedan, ride a bike and do a lot of walking. I hate the selfishness of the people who have no legitimate needs for a "monster" truck. But insist on getting one and making America's roads a nightmare for everyone else.
As a German, it just puzzles me... what's the point of having a fast acceleration, if you can only ever drive the car at a crawl? Literally any moderately decent car can do 200 km/h or more. Doesn't matter if it's a hatchback, a minivan, a roadster or whatever. I used to own a Kia Picanto. 65 HP, and a top speed of 160 km/h. It weighed 850 kg, and was fine for just getting from A to B, if you were okay with cruising at a casual 130 km/h - whioch is already 10 MPH over the US speed limit. That tiny little car could basically tackle any standard US road situation with ease. So what's the point of having those giant trucks and massive motors? Seems absolutely pointless.
Ah, but you haven't taken into account American logic: Driving a 1500kg hatchback at 200kph = Not Manly ❌ Driving a 3000kg truck with the same carrying capacity at 100kph = Manly ✅ Ich verstehe es auch gar nicht.
Perhaps you need to be on public roads in the US to understand. People in well handling vehicles often travel at speeds in excess of 80MPH, but then come upon those driving slower, and especially when those slower drivers won't get out of the passing lane, there is a need to maneuver around and quickly speed back up. Further with trucks, the torque and HP is a function of towing/hauling capacity. While it is true that many owners never use their trucks to their full potential, they are still designed to be capable of it for those purposes where it is useful. Frankly I could say the same about most EVs if it weren't for the utility of trucks, that it seems rather silly to design them with power plants that can accelerate from 0 to 60MPH in under 10 seconds when on public roads they just need to keep up with everyone else, and yet sports cars exist which are even less useful, but at least more visually appealing.
@@stinkycheese804 You still don't need s 4 litre v8 to have a good performing car it's a nonsense. Look at what is on general sale in Europe unless you need huge amounts of torque (not many do) then a smaller better designed engine is a far better idea than a huge displacement v series
As an European, the first time I saw an American truck in real life I was like: "WTF, how a car has become so fucking big?" while sitting on my 335i nearly touching the floor. I think the height of my car was literally the size of his wheels. Absolutely gigantic.
Having any truck somewhere near the size of a F150 (length and width) or bigger can't even get to my house. They would not be able to take some of the 90degr. corners on the narrow roads of the town (mostly build 1500 and earlier). Delivery vans already have a hard time. Trucks/lorries/semitrucks can drop off their cargo outside of the city-center and electric vans take care of the logistics for the final km(s). Works perfectly fine and makes for very calm pedestrian living environment without noisy engines and exhaust fumes where people can sit outside their house and safely cross the street without having to look at metal boxes on wheels everywhere. We have cars, but they are smaller and kept out of sight whenever possible. Infrastructure for pedestrians, bikes, buses and trains gets the same or higher attention as for cars.
german here, I rarely ever see American pickups drive through here but when they do they barely even fit. Saw one parked at the side of the street and it was partially blocking the road while all other cars were behind the line. American trucks are built for wide ass American car dependent infrastructure roads, they don't always work on European pedestrian friendly streets
Absolutely. You guys are driving in the old parts of the town with the mirrors almost touching. That thing on that road would be like a bulldozer. @@Killbayne
@@Chris_winthersyea but no one actually cares about that they just hate Tesla and besides if that truck is going fast enough where those edges make a difference you where probably going to die anyway even if there where rounded
I can overlook the fact that its ugly, I can overlook the fact that it'll kill anything or anyone it runs into, but I can't overlook the price or the messed up cargo area, or the aluminum frame, or the lack of range, and mostly the price. I could never justify buying something for that much money that doesn't do what my 40 year old truck can do when it comes to being a truck or traveling any distance needed without hesitation. Most pedestrians who get run over are generally in some way at fault either due to tempting fate, or just plain stupidity. If you get run over in the street, its more likely natural selection at work not the fault of a truck being too tough, too high, or too deadly in some way.
you’re absolutely right, i live in Germany and for a (import) cybertruck you would actually need a special truck/semi license (everything over 3500kg max weight). I‘m not scared about the size and the weight though. i‘m just scared (even over here) about the stupidity of people being allowed to drive… driving licenses should include regular actual driving training mandatory for everybody that wants to keep their license.
You also need trains to be the main method of transportation since the vast majority of people inevitably don’t have what it takes to always follow safety rules on the road.
@@oceanthresher6184 thats probably what teslas first „non“-crashtest ad suggested, make the truck so smart that you can never crash it. not that i like the idea really that the car thinks for me in that way, but active crash protection is really a thing and it works.
This is the same reasons bike helmets and body armor are built the way they are, they're supposed to crumple to slow the impact, not stop all movement instantly.
The thing is. The car might be just as 'safe' as other trucks. But you have to realize what happens when it crashes With other smaller types of cars which is where it starts getting lethal
Tbh, I'd rather be in a sturdy box that would protect my family than sacrifice half of it to crumple zone saving some asshole speeding on his rigged Toyota Safety of others is very low priority in such situations
He has a point tho. SUV's are just absolutely stupid. Only if you have to regulary haul heavy equipement in off road situations they make some sense. Apart from that theyre dangerous, wasteful and impractical. Every mercedes Sprinter, Iveco or whatever box van is cheaper, offers a ton more space and uses half of the gas while having better visibility, and maneuverability.
there definitely should be a required license to drive a truck over a certain weight. the fact that anyone with a basic license they got when they where a teenager can get a massive truck with zero oversight is just stupid.
@@Rilex037no, they just get smaller cars bc the insurance is expensive for the first few years until the insurance becomes cheap again, so you get a small save car to save on insurance. Rich kids still get fancy cars bc they don't care
I've wondered about the rigidity of the frame. Cars in the old days were like that and during collisions the force was transfered directly to the passengers resulting in crashes where the car survived but the passengers didn't. They decided people's lives were more important and cars were redesigned to have crumple zones which absorbed and redirected the energy around and away from the occupants.
I think the car is rigid since its intended to be a viable vehicle in space conditions. (even though 99.9% of people will never even get close to space) I'd be interested in seeing how much force is applied to the passengers in these cyber truck collisions, because a major factor in safety isn't just crumple zones, but seat belts and airbags too. Crumple zones were applied before proper seat belts or airbags became standard, so we must keep that in mind as well when talking about older cars and safety
Indeed. While AIDRIVR may not see the difference. I do. Look at how far the mannequin goes into the airbag. That's... substantially more in the cybertruck. Which is TERRIFYING. Because in case you haven't seen one of these tests before, the energy it takes to go that far into the airbag ain't much less than what it takes to turn your organs into paste, I'd in fact argue its likely the same or even more given how the back of the mannequin in the cybertruck seems to snap, which would mean that's enough body to break a spine. I assure you, the spleen is weaker than the spine. Don't know who needed to learn that, but there it is. So yeah... This mess looks like a deathtrap for everyone involved. Not to mention how the doors seem very easy to block up which would put the "trap" in death trap even more. I'm surprised its even legal, even by USA standards. And I already find USA standards HORRIFYING as it is!
@@domosrage5434Hah! "viable in space conditions" that's a good one... That mess isn't viable in Space. Not even close. Its way too heavy for its own good there, plus the windows are a mess (there's a good reason space vehicles minimize glass and absolutely do not have glass in sharp angles), etc, etc.
I've accidentally pressed the gas once in my life and as soon as the car revved/jerked into motion I immediately switched pedals because I realized I was pressing the gas and not the break. How do you keep pressing the "break" and not realize the pedal you're pressing is making the car move faster? Like honest to god genuine question? How does it not somehow click that you might be pressing the wrong pedal if the harder you pushes the faster your car is going and the louder it's getting when you press said pedal?
I assume you were a young person with a car of average weight and acceleration when that happened. If you imagine the same thing happening in a 3 ton vehicle with sports car like acceleration and maybe even a person with slightly slower reactions (old person or inexperienced driver for example), the potential for serious accidents increases drastically.
@@khazaddum6570 I'll admit I was only 20 but the vehicle I was driving was Actually a 2013 Ram 1500 Big Horn and I was in 4x4 low which is stupidly responsive on the accelerator and turns off both TCS and ABS so I spun the tires.
Actually, the worst thing about the crash test is how the driver dummy's had snaps back with force after hitting the airbag, something that *does not* happen in the F150 test you compared it to. There are videos out there analyzing exactly these two tests and in the F150 video it takes a lot longer for the driver's head to come to a full stop, which means less impact, and less trauma. This part was considered bad for the F150 (one of the less successful aspects in its test) so it must be much worse for the Cybertruck. Also, you might want to mention that its design makes it illegal to drive in EU, since unlike the US they have proper pedestrian safety laws, with which the CYbertruck is not compliant, while the F150 is.
That said, it's an open question why anyone in the EU would want to drive either vehicle. We have much more practical pickup trucks for work that calls for it (e.g. construction, see Iveco Daily with a truck bed and Piaggio Porter), more practical work vehicles for other things (i.e. vans), and when it comes to showing off various German manufactures have your back.
F150s may be legal here, but nobody is buying them. The biggest pickup I've seen all year were a couple Ford Rangers, and a RAM 1500 last year (which at stock ride height towered over my stock wagon, as in my eye level was at the top of that things tire). Nobody here wants either of these 2, because they also don't fit in regular lanes, let alone parking lots. Model Y's are literally line-to-line here, while I have a comfy 30ish cm on either side of my wagon
@@istvanlorinczi2817 Yes, at my workplace, Ford Mazda and Suzuki dealer, we have a few rangers, usually company cars, where they need the added ruggedness you dont get from a van. But those are pretty big compared to everything else on the road. I have seen a few Ram 3500 where i live, and they dont fit anywhere
Where are you getting your information? Are you just stating what you think is accurate based off your location and how many you see in your location? Do yourself a quick Google search and you will see the F series is the most purchased 1/2 ton for 2023. I have a new 2022 F-150 Supercrew and it fits in lanes just fine. It's also not at all hard to park even in small spaces, given I have the 360 camera package which does help make it easier. I think you've never owned a fullsized, and are just spitting out a lot of opinionated assumptions.@@istvanlorinczi2817
The dummys head position means absolutely nothing without having the telemetry and sensor data. This is why you can't trust internet experts. The neck could just as easily be bending because its a different airbag, or a different seating position, or a different dummy. No real expert is going to draw these kinds of conclusions from a video clip without the sensor data. The actual crash testing groups look at the actual data. So, go look at what they rate the Cybertruck when its out and see what they rate it. Morons on the internet think that using stainless steel body panels somehow has ANYTHING to do with crumple zones. The part that does the crumpling is never the sheet metal. Its the crash beams and frame/subframe elements doing the crumpling. The Cybertruck has those just like any other vehicle. The fact that its sheetmetal doesn't bend and dent as much means exactly nothing.
I was trying to give it a shot but then you said "it has all wheel steer so it doesnt have a rear axle" and i just cant now, calling everyone out for being a fake expert while being a fake expert lmao
the cyber truck is also fucking edge galore its like a drving razor, the hummber ev is heavier yes but at least it wont CUT THE PERSON ITS RUNNING OVER IN HALF
@@Ezmurloc dawg a bumper with curved edges has a chance to not kill the ped. look at the normal trucks and the cybertruck. do you get my point, lacerations lead to blood loss, hey what a coincidence the cybertruck has edges right where the ribcage and femur is. mind you that's where the lungs and the largest artery is respectively. fucks sakes
My only concerns are A, obviously a pedestrian collision would be a minor inconvenience for the steel frame but almost certainly deadly for the victim, and B if i was in a front end collision with a bullet shaped aerospace steel armored truck im gonna die and they'll be fine
@@skyluke9476 Yeah honestly this "concern" doesnt make a ton of sense. Getting hit at high speed by a truck is going to kill you/mess you up horribly. Like, you're a pedestrian getting hit by a truck. What else could possibly happen.
Gotta mention that (especially as a car guy) I love your takes on pedestrian safety. As a 6’1 dude, the fact that some of the trucks in my area are so high up that the hood is just below my chest freaks me the hell out.
Lots of Honda copy, on the suspension, the under bed trunk and more. But wait, there are few delivered and few proven to be reliable. Not only if you buy an electric truck, you will get stranded and that is one big headache. Without many charging stations and it is not made for serious off-road use and it does not float. Deep mud nd soft sand, forget it. Sorry, soy boy fan boys keep trying. FAIL
Love the fact that you say people aren't giving an accurate comparison when you did the same, the full frontal crash @1:50 and the side impact test @2:28 are two entirely different models of F150s. One was a Lightning with a full battery pack and low center of gravity (like the cybertruck). The other is an XLT model, that means it's a gas powered vehicle and not an electric vehicle, hence no low center of gravity to prevent roll over.
@CentralStormz Yep! I did the UA-cam research for him just now in a matter of seconds: "2022-2024 Ford F-150 Lightning EV NHTSA MDB Side Crash Test". SMH 😏🤣
Nice catch. I felt like he was living under a rock when he said @6:40 "I didn't hear anyone complaining about safety when the Hummer EV was released." Like what bro, where you at. Overall a good video, America definitely has a mental illness that causes people to buy larger and larger trucks. After all, the F150 is Americas most popular Grocery-Getter
I think the main reason they're attacking the Cybertruck is because it's made by Tesla and Elon, and one half of the political spectrum is now required by decree to hate everything he and his companies do, even if it's actually good.
The most important part of a car crash is always the passenger. In the full frontal crash, the test dummy gets junted all the way forward, and its head bends backwards. That's not a position you ever want to be put into. I don't care if it looks like the car could just drive away, I care about any major injuries that might occur to the passengers.
There were a ton of people that complained when the Hummer EV was released. Lots of articles shortly thereafter about the problem with big trucks and the dangers of heavier weights in collisions. I think the cybertruck complaints got noticed more because it's so different.
yeah theres a growing discourse about how utterly negligent our regulations are here in the us, the cyber truck is just one of the most visible examples, those hummer evs are one of the dumbest, most recklessly designed things i've ever seen
the cybertruck gets noticed because in is so ugly and functionless. trucks are for hauling and towing, an this thing cannot accept a 5th wheel or have a bed big enough to carry a toothbrush. It would make an excellent can opener, however, as all the corners could easily open big 55 gallon cans. And if hit by the front corners of this truck, a pedestrian will be cleanly and instantaniously be cut in two! Yuk!
@bartlevenson Only thing, it has a space for 5th tyre, just you have to order it as an extra, Goodyear custom-made sculpturevwith 2part rim cover. It's jyst money and sliding rear cover for looks. And a lot of greasy fingerprints, despite not being painted. Oh and panel gaps sure could open various things, as they're mostly non-consistent. Otherwise i agree.
The most terrifying bit to me is that people buy this to feel safe when they get into accidents that they cause themselves, life of the person they hit be damned.
@@stevenrs11 Yeah, I think phones, drugs/alcohol, and other distractions are a much bigger threat than pure vehicle size. Full Self Driving is a way to fix this.
@@AlphaCrucis Full self driving will become a pandemic. Software like that is impossible to perfect. Issues such as drugs, alcohol, phones, and other distractions will be gone- but will be replaced by scarier and uncontrollable and unpreventable issues such as glitches, bugs, hacking, failed updates, corrupted AI, etc.
@@shadeline Perfection is impossible regardless. Glitches have always happened with transportation. Now it will just be different kinds of glitches. There will always be tradeoffs. That said, one pro of FSD is that it will be orders of magnitude safer.
it's not about the crumple zone, it's about the movement of the front occupants heads and the sudden impact with the airbag, you will notice with all of the other vehicles the front occupants heads travel much further before they come to a stop, this is by design, it prevents permanent brain damage
Read about the totaled Altis hitting a cybertruck? Whats interesting in the article was the one injured was the occupant of the CT and the guy in the totalled Altis was alright. IDK how accurate the article is but....
Ehh I’d paint that thing the second i got it. Stainless will oxidize anyone who doesn’t paint it is insane. That said why isn’t tesla painting these things again?
I knew of a case where a little old lady went to her agent's office, paid her car insurance premium, came out, got her pedals mixed up, and drove her Lincoln Town Car through four rooms of the insurance office, until the building's back wall stopped her. She told the police "The harder I pushed on the brake, the faster it went!"
@@bificommander7472 Pretty much! Even the building owner was the insurance agent himself. Fortunately, no one was injured at all. The agent was most concerned that all of his office's computers were destroyed, but all data were backed up at corporate. The company overnighted him a whole new set of computers with all software and data installed like nothing had happened. He was back in business the next morning.
Something that amazes me is that everyone forgot that bullet proof glass on a civilian car is completely useless, just add weight so you take more energy. It’s even dangerous in a case of a crash, in a standard car you take your head rest and smash it in the window to leave the car. In the cybertruck, you’ll have to pray that the firefighter get at you fast.
So far everyone has gave their opinion on accidents of the cyber truck hitting property/people but imagine how easy it is now for people to get their hands on a crowd plough and can then boost away or even attempt to ram higher grade audiences. All while appearing like a normal unmodded vehicle.
@@TheDgdimick in fact, on some vehicle they can’t be removed, that’s why you can buy a little tool that you put in your glove box. It’s like a mini hammer but with a sharp metal end that way you can break the window, if it’s not bullet proof.
The crumple zone is about stopping the cybertruck. If someone hits a CT, it is their crumple zone that counts for them. Crumple zones are NEVER designed to save the obstacle being hit.
@@ScottSuhr-l8m whiplash is fun, and the cyber truck will help its passengers get it, a bike helmet is designed to break to disperse the force of the impact if you wear one that hold together that force will be transfered to you head and neck, in other words "your the crumple zone"
Thanks for the video putting the Cybertruck in context. I think there's something quintessentially American to say that they don't care if what they're doing reduces the safety of everyone around them as long as it makes it safer for themselves.
You overlooked one thing with the crumple zone, it is there to absorb the impact which it does so noticeably worse then the other full frontal crash. You can see the dummy basically contorting their spine as they get a lot less travel distance
His point was that ANY car or truck that hits an absolutely immovable object is going to be pain. Small differences like this don't warrant all the hate; there are cars and trucks with worse frontal collision scores.
The Cybertruck getting hit at all will probably be a write off for the insurance company! They will not let you drive it. EVs after accidents are totaled.
@@CouchPotatordid you even watch the video? There's a side comparison of two front hits and the other cars dummy neck remains straight, the cybertruck dummy's neck has alot of movement
I am in the UK and I use a RAM 2500 for moving logs into the house during this colder season. I feel like a terminator using that thing on small back roads. It truly makes you realise how daft they are when Doris in her Honda Jazz is having to drive into a ditch just so I can get past in this stupid thing. For the record I do enjoy using it offroad and a load bed is perfect for unsplit logs Edit: I love that the average response from Americans is not that we should make smaller vehicles that are safer and more economical. But that we should make roads bigger, ruining the countryside
That last reason is part of why trucks have gotten bigger but it seems people over exaggerate how big normal duty trucks are because my 92 Chevy 1500 is only 700lbs lighter than a 2023 one.
So what's the alternative? You wanna haul those logs with the Honda Jazz? I've driven a Fuso Canter with the biggest cargo box legally possible and never felt bad when it came to tight situations and others do not seem to care much either, cause most people know that those big vehicles are working for them too. We can all be cool with each other 24/7, 365 days a year. From Cybertruck to Renault Twingo. Nobody has to be in a hurry 🙂
It's nice to see a man can criticize his own purchase... And I agree horses for courses you need to move logs and pick up is the easiest.. Or maybe even a transit Tipper with just a hi front also.. Trying to be an armchair engineer..lol.., it appears that the height of the bonnet is an important point anything above 40 inches is 45% more likely to kill predestrian.. But then if you travel above 25 miles an hour it's the same anyway.. And everyone does that.. Hopefully all cars eventually will have collision avoidance that is 99% effective.
Sounds like the UK makes unsafe roads that are to small then. You don't even have to drive into the ditch if a Semi is on the road with you in the USA.
"Strict" pedestrian impact testing, you mean 'logical'. You make a good point, although I think the cybertruck is an awful car and extremely unsafe so are 99% of pickup trucks, thankfully we don't see them in Europe/UK.
@Zorro9129 > Citation needed Not everyone's genital is as tiny and pathetic as yours to feel the need to overcompensate with an oversized truck who's boot is small than pickups of the 70s
@@Zorro9129 No. I do not need a flatbed. My daily needs require a one ton subcompact car that doesnt drink much fuel. For the two times a year I need a bigger car to haul something, I go to the local hardware store and rent a hauling van. And its cheaper than what I would have to pay for feeding a 3 ton pickup that cant fit in half the parking spots in my city.
@@2MeterLP Fine then. But I bet you can't mount a machine gun on your dinky subcompact. Nor does it probably have good acceleration and speed which you could get with a sportier coupe.
Just like to point out that the side collision test clip is with an ICE F-150, not a Lightning. It has a much higher centre of mass and is much lighter - hence it going more sideways. Great video - I agree… I know family that own trucks, but every one of them actually use them for it’s intended function - hauling, towing, etc, regularly, so they know how to handle a truck safely at its limits. I think people are scared of the Cybertruck (and the Hummer EV) because it’s more form and ridiculousness over function, and that especially attracts people who will not be careful with it - inexperienced divers looking for a status, or someone with poor impulse control pushing road safety to it’s limits. We’ve all experienced a sporty car cut across three lanes on the busy freeway - sometimes it’s irresistible to certain drivers with all that speed at their fingertips. Now imagine that same driver at the wheel of something just as quick, but it weighs 6x as much and is built like an APC - that’s scary.
@bcubed72 the Lightning LOOKS like an F150, but is build on a completely different chassis that include the battery pack creating a lower center of gravity, similar to the Cybertruck... fella
Tesla drivers are already some of the most entitled and dangerous drivers rivaling pickup drivers. The buyers of the Cybertruck are going to be a mix of those and THAT is what is truly terrifying.
@@1985HabsFanForever The Lightning trim level is a big engine, alloy wheels, and sportier suspension. Still an F150. Kind of like GMs Super Sport trim level.
Except the fact the steel used... is stated by the company to be not resistant to corrosion at all and as the steel is naked... anything that gets on it can and will eat it.
Stainless steel is merely corrosion resistant, high Chromium and Manganese content helps, but in the end, you have inhomogenities in chemical composition at crystalline grain boundaries, where the corrosion sets in and spreads. Works even better if you scratch up the surface, since that will become the new nucleation point for corrosion. Sure, when compared to regular steel it's going to take a few months for it to start to rust instead of instantly, but dipping the parts in a zinc bath could dramatically improve the corrosion resistance.
@@lich109 not actual rust of the panel but surface stains from airborne iron particles landing on the vehicle during manufacturing and shipping. The panels themselves are not rusting.
@@lich109 not one example of the panels themselves rusting. Just surface stains. Easy to take care of. There are a few products that clean iron particles off the surface. No big deal.
As an Australian, we deal with horrible car crashes from reckless drivers…and that comes from smaller cars. These “mini-trucks” are abominations. They’re monstrous and ugly cars essentially. I live in a country that takes road safety EXTREMELY seriously. I don’t even own a car because they’re too expensive. I find it completely revolting these awful looking vehicles are normalised in the USA. We hate shit like this. They take up too much space and are a danger to the community.
The difference between these two is that while both take roughly the same amount of time to stop, the f150s crumble zone allowed the deceleration to be more controlled in that time resulting lower overall g forces on the passengers. The cyber truck took roughly the same amount of time to stop from impact, but the short crumble zone means it crushed slowly at first but had a sharp deceleration as the crumble zone ended, essentially resulting in a large spike of g-forces right at the end of the deceleration. That's the dangerous part of the cyber truck.
Except your full of crap and are clueless about it actual g forces in the crash. Tesla had been building the safest cars on the road. What makes you think that this truck will be any less safe? Safety has ALWAYS been Tesla's first priority. CT will win safety awards mark my words.
@@footbrakefreddy It looks like an airbag problem to me... The one on the F150 seems to be lower which stops the head and torso at the same time, while the one in the Cybertruck only stops the head
You have literally no idea what you're talking about. You're watching a 2 second video clip and making all kinds of wild assumptions about crumple zones and G-forces. You cannot tell from these videos what the G-loads were and over what time. Just stop.
Lost me the moment he made the claim that in the frontal offset crash it was much easier to dissipate the energy. That test was specifically added because its a lot more difficult to safely dissipate the energy. The force is concentrated in a smaller area. In fact for a couple of years the Wrangler rolled over when the IIHS did the test.
@DavidPruitt You are right. It's more difficult. But what is true is that it's not fair to compare to a full frontal crash. And it will always look like more crumple zone when you do make an overlap test due to more force on one part of the vehicle and it collapsing further. Basically. I know I didn't explain this in detail or fully correct, but we all know that you have to compare the same test to the same test. Not two completely different testing techniques.
That’s extremely silly to ban the cyber truck or any Tesla for that matter, because you allow 15,000 pound semi trucks that can tow 80,000 pounds, that could cause far more damage and lives than every single Tesla combined
It lost me when he kept saying ''space grade stainless steel'' wich is just a marketing name, only used by fanboys that really believe everything elon says.
@natmarelnam4871 i think you missed my point. I never argued that it had an axle at all. Im pointing out that its illogical to assume an axle snapped just because a wheel broke off center.
The guy behind me got rear ended by a giant Silverado a few years back. It totaled 5 cars, killed 2 people, and ruined my neck. That truck was just his daily driver.
it is as you said stainless steel and thick, so whoever crashes with it WILL collide with a basically immoveable object since its center of gravity is low as well, crashing with a cybertruck seems super scary
The dual motor Cybertruck weighs 6700 lbs, which is about the same as other class 2b light/medium duty trucks such as the Ford F-250, Nissan Titan XD, and Ram 2500, Chevrolet Silverado 2500.
@@PharozosIn Europe, lorry driver must have C license, or C+E for lorry+trailer. They don’t hand out those like it’s Christmas, they are limited to 90 km/h, and are under bigger scrutiny. Do lorry drivers do stupid shit here? Sure! But it’s much more rare, compared to regular drivers. Now, every cun- I mean, person here can buy a RAM, and those drivers have the regular B license like. I’m sorry, but I put more trust into the professional driver, over some wanna be cowboy with small genitalia complex.
@@athl0n I'm not speaking about the driver. I'm talking about the 33,000 pounds of truck and trailer. I have seen plenty that are falling apart. It only takes a split second of inattention to merge on top of a regular car.
Better Question: Would you rather crash in a car that you know if safe (rating from IIHS, NHTSA, and manufacturer) or crash in a car that you have use "trust me bro" logic on (manufacturer tests only)?
I would rather crash in a car that will survive and keep driving with only cosmetic damages than a car that has a crumble zone in the engine and will crumble beyond repair
@@vnc.t So a tank, then. As a bonus, unlike the cybertruck, the tank will also keep the driver intact after a crash, allowing you to keep driving immediately. They don't suffer cosmetic damage, either.
I definitely agree! Seeing the number of people driving big diesel and gas pickups just to get groceries is absurd. I do more "truck stuff" with a Forester than most of my friends do with their trucks. It's more convenient and more efficient.
My dad has a f150 and order the cyber truck. We go skiing every weekend and biking in the summer at hard to reach places. a truck is needed for the offroading and especcialy for hauling dirt bikes and bikes. but most people dont need them which is why i agree with you
Though it does seem 90% of f150 owners only buy them because they think they're country folk but in reality, all it does is hall their disgustingly obese American family to mcdonalds and to buy three bags of grocery. Subaru is what real outdoors people use. Go to any state park and tell me how many you count.
@@toggle.i can get to all the same places as almost any pickup expecially stock pickups in my fucking station wagon and with hauling dirt bikes and shit I just use my trailer. you do not need a 8000lb truck to drive up to ski or to get around the basic offroading that it can handle.
I agree, a 3000kg truck that is silent and launches like a rocket is straight up dangerous to everyone around it. Especially if a driver like you said mistakes accelerator for brake pedal, that thing has no mercy for any wall or such.
@MadsterV I would argue that's just natural selection. But, they could kill others with their sheer stupidity. If you are intending to brake, and you notice you're revving the engine and you still don't stop, there's nothing that can possibly help you
@@MadsterV Yet it happens in the US almost daily because automatics don't require any real aptitude or concentration to drive them, the majority of cars in the US are basically just powerful go-karts with a go pedal and a stop pedal, that is why so many immature teen drivers and demented elderly drivers find themselves hitting the accelerator as soon as they are flustered and end up wrecking someone's house/shop/life.
The silent factor on all electric is scary, I was walking into the store and i felt weird for some reason and i turned around and there was a electric just a foot behind me, no warning so you could move, and i wasnt even in the middle of the isle either.
Interesting insights. I'm from germany and I share your aversion to seeing people alone in these huge SUV's, looking down on their phone, blasting through the city. I'm a cyclist, so this stuff scares me alot. But these sharp edges on the cybertruck are something else man :D it will never drive in germany...
People need to understand those stainless steel panels have nothing to do with the reinforcement of the vehicle. That’s why the truck is illegal in Europe.
I feel for the firemen having to cut people out of these steel coffins. Also that neck movement in the front crash test is very concerning....not sure why you didnt mention thay
Because these dolls have actual sensors that tell qualified people when something bad is happening inside. Do you really think that you can tell without any actual training what happened in this video is worse than what happened in all other cars?
5:52 I still remember a very dramatic example of this. My company used to load new cars onto railcars. One morning when I came in late, I see a railcar door that’s been pried wide open at the top deck, and a car on it’s roof 20 feet below. Turns out one of the few coworkers I hated there (she was a two faced, backstabbing, habitual liar that thought she was above everyone), had pressed the gas instead of the brakes and launched herself of the top deck and fell 20 feet. She shattered her ankle and we never saw her again. We found out that she lied (shocker) about a brake malfunction. So the company that built the car took it back inside and did diagnostics on the crash. They found out that a few seconds before the crash, she applied 100% accelerator and 0% brakes according to the computer’s “black box”. Glad she was gone though. Sucks that a car had to get destroyed for it though.
@@juggernautjim7719 Not crown vics in this case. However, that is a fantastic guess, as it was the other big Ford assembly plant in Ontario. We were loading Ford Edges, Ford Flexes, Lincoln MKX’s, and Lincoln MKT’s. AND I actually did work shipping the crown vics, but it was only for 2 days in 2010 when the guys in St. Thomas were too burnt out to ship everything themselves that weekend. unfortunately, I don’t remember any of the names of the people that we were shipping with in St. Thomas though. But yes, Autoport was a great gig.
Don't be too hard on her for "lying" for pressing the wrong pedal (the rest of the stuff she did is fair game though). Far, far too many people do this. You are confident that you are pressing the brake and the car keeps going. You then press harder but are now panicking, so you are unable to think clearly. At that point you are simply hitting what you think is the brake while trying to steer around obstacles. All of this typically happens in a matter of seconds, not even enough time to tell yourself that you are on the wrong pedal.
@@anthonypelchat It's because of piss poor driver training. People are allowed to drive cars without even knowing the bare basics about how they work. I'm not saying everyone needs a BAR certified mechanic, But basic understanding of car workings goes a long way. Also just basic vehicle operation and literacy is so far down from what it once was. People need to be trained to operate complex machinery, and we aren't doing that.
@@GregoryVeizades I agree. We probably also need better training before larger vehicles are allowed to be driven. Won't ever happen though. We will have fully self driving cars before we have a mostly safely driving population.
This video felt so natural that I didn't even pause and think that this is not your usual kind of video until you mentioned it at the end. I am all for it.
Honestly the fact that so many people have a license scares me. I mean until we have better public transport it’s probably essential in some situations, but at the same time the sheer danger of bad drivers feels like it’s ignored. We kind of just accept that a lot of car accidents occur without looking at the driving capabilities of people who have been in multiple accidents.
@@clintpreslar452 It's about the same argument people have about whether we have souls or not. I just say if you are convinced that you have no soul, then maybe you don't. Maybe this world does consist of something metaphorically comparable to players and NPCs 🤭
The biggest difference between the F150 full frontal and the Cybertruck full frontal is how much force is imparted on the driver. Look at how far back the Cybertruck driver's head gets pushed versus the F-150. It actually is horrifying.
@@wwjccsd Are you implying the force data is different? Tesla seems to be hiding the data, so I find that hard to believe. If Musk says it is safe I am certain it isn't.
sometimes happens to very, very experienced drivers, in Europe too. Sadly, I have seen this as part of my job in motor insurance. It usually results from a combination of being completely distracted when behind the wheel + finding yourself in a sudden stressful unfamiliar situation.
@@move2003ny Honestly, I've never witnessed such things personally. Guess it's a rather rare case after all. But since you're working for an insurance company, I bet you get to see a lot of weird accident cases within a year.
Because it seems like many americans drive with on foot on the accelerator and one foot on the brake pedal. I've never ever mistaken the pedals because my right foot is the only foot operating those pedals.
2:04 : What you can see here is (side-by-side comparison with the Lightning) that while the airbags inflate at approximately the same time the Tesla driver head hits the airbag in about half the time compared to the Lightning. This can be either due to a shorter crumple-zone or due to much faster acceleration of the driver head… or both.
slow down the video text time the tesla hit the wall first and airbag fully inflates by the time the ford goes off which did hit the wall later but also the ford head hits the airbag first which could mean a harder stop sadly for the tesla still just going off by the video
@@AtlasReburdenedare you purposefully ignoring the fact that the dummy had its neck snapped at the end? Just because it deployed doesn’t mean everyone is going to live happily ever after
@@AtlasReburdened Yup, that's another design flaw for the cybertruck. What's also interesting is why they cut the footage not allowing us to look at the rebound either which is also very important for safety... But looking at the decapitated passengers and dead driver, I don't see a reason to.
Ironically, the Cybertruck actually looks way safer and more "friendly" than most US trucks, because it's slightly more compact and the front doesn't block the driver's view as much. From my EU / German view (who has been in the US), whats scary on US roads: 1) drivers test being a joke (compared to Germany); 2) road design and rules being absurd, almost seems like its designed to make it unsafe (4-way stops = measuring who is more stubborn, default right-on-red, weird roundabouts, suicide lanes etc) and inconsistent local road designs with page-long documents printed on signs to explain it ; 3) driver behavior (nobody keeps enough distance, people don't keep right on highways, etc.) 4) crazy vehicles, like everyone driving a truck, or even crazier: cars with spikes coming from their wheels for some godawful reason 5) pedestrian-unfriendly city design and the sheer distances involved as a result of it - and no, I don't mean the distance to drive through Texas, I mean the distance to your grocery store
Man, if you think America road design and rules are absurd, come & live in Taiwan for a month... just a month, see if you can take it. And we don't even need big SUV to get the chaos.
number 2...yes yes yes... what idiot thought "equal rights" intersections was a good idea??? Just designate one road has priority and problem solved. No more guessing who goes first or playing chicken
I remember in the 90s Jeep had a bunch of these pedal mis-applications. I think it was in the grand Cherokee. 60 minutes or something did a study and realized that Jeep had actually moved the gas pedal over so that when your leg/foot went straight ahead, it hit the gas instead of the brake. I wonder what the orientation is on those Teslas?
I seem to remember that in the eng that whole Toyota stuck accelerator pedal debacle was simply a bunch of pedal misapplications, later coupled with people getting into their heads when driving Toyotas.
a thing ive noticed with a lot of "influencer" types that own teslas is they dont know how cars work. theyre so used to driving a tesla that they actually forget how to use the brakes because teslas have a system that automatically makes the car come to a stop. i can imagine that this is a more common reason than it seems
@@filipcsizmar4860 yes, they solved it making a really huge brake pedal xD. i think driving a manual is better to understand what you are driving. countries with automatic cars have a lot of these pedals mistakes, they are easier to drive, and maybe an old person that lost the skill to drive a car, still is able to drive automatic. less things to do, ultil you have to brake fast
@@averagelurker1577 I doubt it, if you’ve driven a Tesla, you’ll know that you have to use the physical brakes whenever you need to stop in a situation that doesn’t give you 10 seconds of braking time. The regen brakes aren’t that strong, you’ll have to use the physical ones every once in awhile.
@@oldrrocrevery car maker that doesn't aim for manufacturing faster, safer, cheaper tech-advanced cars with every year should be ashamed of whatever it does instead of this. All these cars are made for fragile-ego people.
@@jacksdad23 They have the normal 2 pedals (accelerator and brake) setup but only need to use the accelerator for most driving as it deaccelerates when you take your foot off of the petal. I don't use that feature in my EV as it is less efficient.
what makes you think it is less efficient? The deacceleration is just the motor resistance turning the kinetic energy back into electricity. If you set it to roll freely, you are giving up the regeneration and are possibly being less efficient. @@youferrer
Even if cybertruck passed safety regulations in the EU (which in the current state it won't), it would require C category license which is more expensive to get and you have to be at least 21 years old. C category license together with B which you have to have before would cost around 3000 euros in my country. In addition it would require 90 km/h speed governor and couldn't use many roads.
The thing that will kill the cybertrudk will be the insurance industry. Finding someone/anyone to repair the Stainless Steel after a minor accident will be the real question. Yeah it maybe bulletproof but good luck trying to fix that dent after.
Be much more than just a bent panel that gets replaced. Subframe etc etc AND..... at what cost? The insurance companies premiums are going to go into the stratosphere. Lets also not forget that the battery will have to be VERY carefully inspected by someone who actually knows what they are looking for and the slightest crack will mean replacement and we all know how much that will cost.@@AndrewHadi07
One thing you missed is that the frontal crash test isn't just about how much the vehicle resists intrusion into the cabin (i.e. the dash crushing/pinning the driver's legs) but how much the truck absorbs the crash over time....this ends up being how much force is placed on the occupants. The dummies have sensors to measure this, and I haven't seen that data......but it looks to me like the Cybertruck stops more abruptly. Differences of milliseconds are huge in that force. To your comment about them not running into things like that? They could have a head-on collision with a vehicle coming toward them. Forces multiply in that instance. They could also drive straight-on into the back of a fire truck or cement barrier......but of course Teslas never do that do they?
Yeah, thats one of the main issues I'm seeing here, if this thing really is that solid then when someone does crash this thing EVERYONE involved will die not just the occupants of the other vehicle, if it dissapates energy at even just half the rate of the other vehicle the shock alone would kill the passengers of the truck and the remaining energy will just flatten the other car
@@icandreamstream . Hopefully it means they can't sell this deathtrap without a total structural redesign, notice the giant corner where the windshield meets the body of the truck? That's a MASSIVE weakpoint, meanwhile no other modern vehicle is designed with sharp corners, so it's possible that this vehicle will not only be incredibly dangerous to the occupants and other vehicles (much less bystanders), but it may not even survive a rollover or it may suddenly collapse unpredictably over certain speeds, if you ever wonder why so many safe cars seem to look the same, it's because one design is safer than the rest.
The part that scares me the most is: imagine being hit by this absolute massive piece of tank as a pedestrian. This thing is sharp and stiff all around.
But not all the soccer moms in ext suburbans with air pods in, coffee in one hand and screaming kids in the back.
@@ptownfloyd9509 It would end worse if they were in a cybertruck
@@jamesburton5225 an accident is an accident. Anything at 6k lbs and up is gonna be carnage
I was taught to look both ways before you cross the street
Yeah, I don't think you are coming off very well as a Pedestrian regardless of the car.
This always reminds me of how people are always talking about how “old cars were built tougher” and showcase one of them hitting a barrier and the car basically shrugging it off but the person inside has turned into paste
UA-cam has a Malibu vs BelAir test that shows exactly this. You'd be annihilated in the 1959 car.
No, older car isn't tougher and they're not dangerous because of that.
It's not crumple zone that's slowing the passenger down (you wouldn't want that), but mainly airbags.
Considering that most car had its chasis stopped before passenger hit the airbag (including cybertruck), there's basically no difference on how large/long it takes to crumple as long as the passenger cell remain rigid. An effective crumple zone is mainly there to prevent passenger cell deformation from crushing its passenger (cybertruck chasis is pretty strong, so...)
I like how so many people just see the crash test and goes "ohhh, energy transfer bad", like they even know what they're talking about. It's middle school physics man...
Exactly. It's true thatl frontal isn't that bad - bc the Cybertruck has traditional aluminum crumple zone. For that side impact, you'd rather be in the Ford that "looks" worse.
The old cars had one thing going for them .... mass. I had a big car. A 1977 Lincoln town car with a big ole 460 big block. Thing was like a tank. Thick sheet metal. Empty weight (no driver, no gas) was something like 4880 lbs. Of course when a car like that was to hit an econo box weighing in like 1/2 the weight, the favor is going to be in favor of the large car. One thing older cars were really poor at was rollover. The A & B pillars on some of the older cars were really thin and flimsy in a rollover. The pillars on new cars are made to support the whole weight of the vehicle in a roll over that puts the car upside down.
NOTHING built today will be operable in 40 years. Almost everything operable today built 40 plus years ago, will still be operable. It's humans fault we are so soft we have to nerf our engineering to protect the ones nature is trying to eliminate from the gene pool.
Love it when a non experts confronts other non experts to convince other non experts
You hit the nail on the head with this comment.
Its political, they are on full-on attack mode against Musk, and the Cybertruck is just caught in the crossfire against their real target.
Any criticisms on the video for non experts like me? Or at least where to find the experts?
Have you realy just added even another part to the chain with that comment XD
@@ryboi1337 1:49 Guy is saying a fist is more dangerous than being stabbed with a knife. More surface area means more dissipation. The entire suite of crumpling features of a car impacting a wall with its full mass does indeed have a different display of dissipation than a car impacting a barrier that actuates 1/2 to 1/3 of a car's crumpling capabilities with its full mass behind it.
The former was the standard, we could argue is the best case scenario, before someone conceived of the latter decades later, arguably a real world scenario, and car engineers and manufacturers had to devise better means of supplying more crumpling capabilities and reinforcement for the event where less was available.
Former standard did not test side impacts, someone realized t-boning happens and started to test it, and since doing so we've implemented side airbags. Analogize this statement with the hypothetical of if Tesla didn't present a side impact test and imagine a youtuber saying 'It's much easier to dissipate energy with a side impact....than not being crashed into the side' okay the analogy sort of falls apart, sort of like the statement where a third of the car dissipates more energy than the full car falls apart.
Engineer here: When someone speaks of "space grade steel", he instantly loses every bit of credibility to me. Can you please refer to weight in the unit of waterbottles and space in the unit of footballfields from now on? Thanks!
Don't you care about the wear and tear in a bombardement of high energy particles and hard ultra violet radiation?
The metal rusts quickly and if you want it painted tesla charges you even more money, space grade metal is getting destroyed by earth grade elements
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It's the typical American commercial slang.
He's a tesla fanboy trying to show everyone that Cybertrucks aren't bad in one, extremely specific way. He's basically saying "look guys! The Cybertruck actually _does_ do the bare minimum! It's made of SpaceGradeSteelTM (i'd put my money on it being shit cheap stainless steel lmao), after all".
Fun fact: The German "Car License / Class B" allows you to drive vehicles up to 3.5 Tons in weight. This includes the vehicle, driver, passenger and everything else you put into the car. thus, vehicles like the Hummer EV couldn't even be driven without the small (literal) truck license. This would also make the "Beast" problematic. That would make just under 400kg of added load kinda making it super impractical. (metric tonnes)
It can be "typisiert" to 3.5 tons. That is usually made for recreational vehicles. As long as the weight of the car including all passengers stays below 3.5 tons. 2995 + 5 x 80 = 3.395 kg. Acceptable. But then you could not tow anything.
Same in Italy so I guess this is an EU-wide rule. Max weight with regular class B driving license is 3.5 tons including everything, however it is +/- 5%, you can add another 150 kg allowance
Don't forget, that vehicles with more than 3,5t of max weight are limited to 80km/h in Europe.
So the Cyber Truck being 3,1t but having a load capacity of 1t in the truck bed equals 4,1t of max weight. C1 class drivers license needed and limitation to 80km/h.
@@theagentsmith Its still more with a trailer. That means CT must be a truck with truck license and 80 (100 in Poland...) top speed.
I just calculated M3, MY, CT on my longest route i drive regularly. The CT is 2 hours slower than the 3. But fully loaded.
And as a truck it does not have to follow the passenger car UN/ECE rules. It will be interesting to see how this conundrum will be solved.
@@CerberusTenshi the Cyber Truck will most likely be classified as car though. And the max total weight limit will be reduced to 3500 kg. That is on paper, if people will actually keep to that... probably not.
It’s not about how the car holds up in a crash but its ability to provide the lowest deceleration possible so that your fragile human body doesn’t experience 100G forces.
Like he said in the vid, with how heavy/Dense it is with such a Low center of gravity you can be assured that just about anything it hits is getting yeeted. Very few things are liable to be able to stop that thing on a dime so deceleration is probably not going to be as big of a danger as you might think...
Your assuming we are hitting a immovable object. In my ram I hit someone going and 10mph with a 10 tone dump trailer hooked up and their vehicle didn’t effect my momentum at all. They where send flying 10 feet and the car was like half the length it was before but my truck only had a dent and a bit of a twist to the bumper.
The human body can survie 88gs of force in an insta stop to 0 speed, the air force tested it in the 60s
F1 pilots can survive a 150mph crash into a wall, even with the crumpling zone, what do you think experience more Gs, mr Joe crashing at 50mph or an F1 pilot at 150mph?
Honestly what keeps you alive is the passenger area not crumpling and the airbags softening the impact, the crumpling zone is nore of a marketing tactic for "cheap materias that give up easily"
well, if you open your eyes, and watch the proper comparison with the lightning 150, you will see, that those passengers go splat just as fast mate, Just don't drive like a fuck head
@@gilliesiut2332And you're somehow proud of that?
The frontal offset test doesn't dissipate energy more effectively. The front offset test was actually developed because the insurance industry felt the full frontal test was not challenging enough. I find it interesting that you disparged "internet experts" while doing the same thing.
The offset test dissipates energy more gradually, over a longer distance, producing a fewer G's on the car/passengers. If you choose to not use the term "effectively" to that, so be it.
@@ScottSuhr-l8m total energy dissipation isn't what is important here.
What is important is the dissipation of energy on the passengers.
A vehicle being able to dissipate 50Gs of force means fuck-all if 49 of them are dissipated into the passengers.
It's the difference between taping an egg to a sledgehammer and hitting concrete with it and taping a soda can to the front of the sledgehammer with the egg on the back and doing the same. One of those eggs will be intact, and it ain't the first one.
@@ScottSuhr-l8m it imparts the same force through a smaller area increasing the pressure across the fewer components disappating the energy. It's a harder (and more representative) test.
Exactly lol, Muskrat fanboy successful clickbait 😂 There’s no technical analysis, just another “Xpert” making a video pretending to be intelligent. Simple unbiased observation and common sense is enough to tell how unsafe this Tesla scam is compared to real trucks. Look at the snapped neck in the full frontal test. The fact that it didn’t move in the side test means the energy went into the cabin whereas when the F150 almost flips, that’s the truck converting the energy into physical movement of a few tonnes of weight. 😂 This guy can’t do basic physics and judges safety by how big the dent is 😂😂😂
the dude has no idea about basic physics, taht much is shown in the first few minutes when he asked, after the side ways impact "which would you rather be in" reffering to how the "cybertruck withstood" the impact.
All the force of the impact was put into the cybertruck, while the ford dissipated a good chunck of it into the air by moving. that is simple physics yet he failed at that
"Or if you hold onto that accelerator pedal just a little bit too long". What horrifyingly beautiful foreshadowing.
yeah i know, a full fleet recall, this video has the potential to age as well as milk... half a year later body panels are flying off, windshield wipers too, body damage from water alone(rust and de-coloration), they're getting stuck in all kinds of 'easy' off-road conditions... the trend right now is to polish them mirror finish, like how idiotic is to reduce their visibility to that degree..
@@duroxkilo Every one of your items is mis-stated or at best severely exaggerated: no body panels have flown off -- only the "rubber" flexible seals along the rear tonneau cover; windshield wipers had a simple software problem regarding their movement; the body is not being damaged - it gets a little patina similar to a stainless appliance -- and idiots have been wrapping cars with mirror finishes for years (NOT common, or trending in any case with CT -- I'm in SoCal and I have yet to see a polished CT -- I agree with the idiocy when they do that wrap); ANY vehicle can get stuck in soft sand -- the ford towing it out was on hard-pack. If the positions were reversed, the CT would be towing the Ford.
-Why aren't you railing about the 462,869 Kias recalled in the same week for a FIRE hazard: "Kia America has issued a “park outside” recall for 462,869 model year 2020-2024 Telluride vehicles because of a risk of fire while parked or driving." www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases/kia-telluride-recall-fire-risk), let me guess, you don't like Elon. . .
-Or the 116,020 SUVs Mercedes recalled for electrical FIRE risk: "Mercedes-Benz has issued a recall covering 116,020 SUVs across several models, including vehicles by Mercedes-AMG and Mercedes-Maybach.
The recall covers an issue with a 48-volt ground connection under the passenger seat, which left unattended, could result in a fire." www.caranddriver.com/news/a60257844/mercedes-benz-48-volt-grounding-recall/
Those are much more severe problems that a wiper that works intermittently. . . on a few thousand CTs.
Try to understand the issues and put them in context before embarrassing yourself on line. . .
@@ScottSuhr-l8m yeah i'm not reading all that but thanks for the effort.
i did see pictures a few months ago, it was all over X w/ a rear panel actually missing. in fact i just checked again after reading your first paragraph and yes entire panels can detach.
@duroxkilo "yeah i'm not reading all that"
*proceeds to read all that* 😂
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That's the main problem, people don't want to read anything that goes against what they believe, irregardless of what's actually factual, only to continue to spread misinformation because it's the cool thing to do and because none of their friends like Tesla's or other EVs.
On all new trucks, there seems to be no limit on the height of headlights. People have become very complacent about dimming high beams and now with these trucks, blinding headlights have become a huge problem. You might consider doing a video about that problem too.
The headlights are in the bumper, the horizontal line of the cybertruck is a daytime running light. So for that truck specifically at least it won't be a problem.
I also have found this to be a big problem, especially in Australia when people add suplumentry driving lights. I have to hit the brakes and stop because I litterally cannot see what is going on around me, I'm blind.
@@UltimateGattaioh same, I drive a commodore and get blinded constantly by 4wds
Yeap. Not sure if there is a limit for height in every country but I can confirm this is getting to be a problem, especially with more powerful headlamps.
I have to drive on Sunday's at evening going back home in the motorway and I did this with an older Passat but gave up using that car because all the SUVs full with weekend luggage would blind me while overtaking and started using only my C4 which is much higher....It worked fine but now I am starting to have the same problem with that car too.
SUVs and such have much hire headlamps and so when they overtake you, the light reflects on your driver's side rearview mirror and tends to blind you.
I don't have a problem when they are behind me, the auto dimming mirror solves that and I also don't have a problem when at a highway and they are coming in the opposite direction but when they overtake you in a dual carriage motorway it is terrible.
Some of it is complacency, some of it is that modern LED lights are often a lot brighter and a lot more directional than the old ones were and a lot of them are just not aimed properly. I remember when I needed to re-aim my motorcycle headlights after changing the bulbs and the local regulations here are extremely hard to understand. The gist is that they should be pointed slightly down, but by how much isn't something that is at all clear, especially with the increased variety of vehicles that people are riding around in.
the scariest thing in this video is 16000 pedal misapplications annually in the US alone. like, i’m not a very experienced driver, have been driving for just over two years. however, the thought of the existence of so many people doing “>press pedal >car not doing what intended >press same pedal harder” truly scares the shit out of me
yeah what a crazy statistic 😨
Those people should not be driving probably. How many of those gets a Darwin Award?
It reminds me of Einstein's definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results.
Manual transmissions don't have this problem.
@@Rocketman0407 Well they won't get the "Darwin Award" if they sit in a Cybertruck because they can just plow over pedestrians or small cars without even getting a scratch. It seems insane to me that you need a special license to drive a moped or scooter but not for this! I guess preventing someone from harming themselves is more important then preventing them from harming others.
The reason the Cyber Truck is banned in the UK is because any smaller scale car crash can be fatal to the person on the receiving end of the cyber truck. Its secure but it will wreck another car.
The UK is a Nanny State gone wrong, no one cares about UK.
Exactly
This car is very safe such a big impulse won’t come to a stop suddenly. So that point where the passangers brain is separating from the skull when crashing is not important (as long as u don’t drive against another tank)
Good nic. Anyway, u know what they say about men with big cars? You know what they say in Africa being the only thing that is not big in America? Yes u know
thats such a weird reason to ban a vehicle. Busses and trucks exist there dont they not? but believe it or not if those massive vehicles get into accidents with smaller cars, the smaller cars are also gonna get destroyed so like what?
yes, but for those vehicles you need a special license and cant just buy them so whats your point?@@logan-vq3dm
2:01 even your fair comparison shows the lightning had around 15 degree neck whiplash, while the cybertruck had 45 degree neck whiplash.
He's saying the people are not experts he's definitely not. He doesn't knows anything.
You might want to skip frame by frame, they look pretty similar
@@fayenotfayethat's why they use crash test dummies filled with measuring devices. The tilt of the head is one of the measured parameters.
I don't know what kind of vision and image processing algorithms you have, but both Cybertruck and F150 have similar neck whiplash angles.
@@actualyoungsoocope
Former paramedic, current insurance risk manager here. Quite the discussion in the comments. Many good points, but also a few understandable misunderstandings and some considerations missing altogether.
I just want to inform everyone about "the third collision". The first is the vehicle hitting something, the second is the body hitting the interior of the car (which seat belts and airbags deal with) and the third is the inner organs crashing inside the body. So, the faster these are travelling when the body itself suddenly stops, the more dead you'll be. Ligaments will rip straight through the organs they keep in place. Organs will smash against your rib cage or even the skin that is suddenly stationary because it has hit the dash or hopefully the airbag. This is what the crumple zone deals with. It's there to make the breaking distance of your body as long as possible, while the rigid cell around the interior tries to stop physical objects spearing through or smashing your whole body to pulp in one, rather swift, go.
The crumple zone is about reducing the G force your body is subjected to in a crash. The seat belts help you slow down more in tandem with the car, stopping you from smashing into the dash and the steering wheel. An airbag helps cushioning the last bit of retardation. Also alleviating the stretching strain on your spine. (This is also helped by the active seat belts in modern cars, that strap you in just as the crash starts - or before, in the case of very modern cars - and then it will release a bit of slack, first and foremost so your ribs will not break and puncture your lungs and/or your heart. Yes, they have thought of that, too.) But an airbag where seat belts are not in use (or you sit too close to the wheel) is now a double Mike Tyson punch in the face. 600kgs vs 300kgs, or thereabouts. Not recommended.
I worked at a crash site where a family of five in an American style van (Chevrolet, I think) collided with a Hyundai Accent. When the difference in weight is that big, the outcome is almost given, and the weight adds to the safety in that one instance. In fact, the 12-year old in the van ONLY survived because they had a trailer - a camper van - behind them, pushing the van forwards another few inches before it stopped, reducing the G forces on the family in the van. This according to the surgeon who opened up the kid to deal with internal bleeding. In this case, the Hyundai was stopped short AND pushed back a bit, making the G forces even higher than if they had just rammed into a mountain. They did not survive.
Neither would anyone in the case of two very heavy cars with extremely rigid bodies colliding at 60mph, both stopping short. In theory, if they were identical in every way and one of them were heavier than the other - or even travelled at a higher speed than the other! - the people in that car would be better off than those in the slower OR lighter car. But looking at traffic at large, everyone driving as fast as possible in a car as heavy as possible is not gonna make us all safer.
With regards to older cars, I have seen enough steering columns lodged in broken chests to prefer newer models for long distance travel. I drive my veteran carefully for many reasons. Sorry for writing such a long comment, but even this is a fragment of all the factors and aspects of collision safety. It is a tremendously complex field if you want to be detailed about it.
Oh an expert… er… APPEAL TO AUTHORITY! APPEAL TO AUTHORITY!
Phew.
Yeah, I’m very peevy in my car around heavy vehicles for this reason. I prefer smaller cars, but that doesn’t seem to be an American trend.
Stroking the ego for large vehicles that barely get used for their intended purpose. Good job, Murica.
Good info . I barely drive my car is getting old but has less miles than most new cars
People just don't like Elon Musk and try their best to attack him wherever and because they're too stupid to find good points they just have to make shit up
@@Macrocephaly I dislike him because he is dishonest, I assume that's a good enough reason to not like someone?
When I was still working as an engineer in that specific area, strikter pedestrian safety regulations for the US market were already anounced. I would have to check what the current regulations are in the US. One thing I can tell you, is that you will never see one of those things on european streets. By design there is absolutely no chance that they will pass current regulations.
How are pedestrian safety regulationsfor small trucks?
Also it would still be able to be driven on the streets, the Mustang front and hood design f.e. had to be redesigned ( lower nose, no hood vents ) so it could be sold here but you could still get US imports registered before official sales.
@@Enforcer_WJDExplain to me why my Stryker shouldn't be street legal
In my neck of the woods, the CT's curb weight requires you to have a commercial driver's licence (same with the F150) - so it will likely never sell (never mind the fact that we simply have zero EV infra).
From what I heard is that at least for France the tesla truck will not be legal as is on different levels : the tint on the glass (easy fix), the weight (debatable, not sure yet), the sharp edges of the body and that one will be most likely the reason why will never see that ugly thing in France and most likely the whole EU.
An engineer and you spelled stricter "strikter"? Were you engineering Tonka trucks by chance?
I don't think tesla was designing this for europe because they disregarded certain things that would make it legal in europe as far as shape and weight. Its designed for the US market, clearly. They love massive overkill trucks, and this is bulletproof... Personally i think the cybertruck was created to expand Teslas fan base to those who are a little more on the redneck side. As soon as some back country folk get to unload a magazine in the side of a cybertruck, they're gonna fall in love.
The cyber truck is a Gucci shirt. You’re not driving it to pick up groceries, you’re driving it too be the center of attention while buying your groceries 😂
and probably not in a good way mostly.
@@jperryhalme when im buying groceries not in the good way:
Or maybe they just actually like all the technology that comes with that ugly ass truck 🤷♂️
@@myetoob23 Haha come on. So the body had nothing to do with it? It’s the same technology as the old one they both drive solo and got the same defective dash.
@@DemarcusQ huh? Can't say I follow you
This is a defense video disguised as a review, I was expecting some factual data but all I got was "well those guys are just as bad, how come no one is talking about them"?
Thanks for the heads up. Cybercuck = opinion discarded
Exactly lol, Muskrat fanboy successful clickbait 😂 There’s no technical analysis, just another “Xpert” making a video pretending to be intelligent. Simple unbiased observation and common sense is enough to tell how unsafe this Tesla scam is compared to real trucks. Look at the snapped neck in the full frontal test. The fact that it didn’t move in the side test means the energy went into the cabin whereas when the F150 almost flips, that’s the truck converting the energy into physical movement of a few tonnes of weight. 😂 This guy can’t do basic physics and judges safety by how big the dent is 😂😂😂
the thing that scares me the most about these is, i drive a VW beetle convertible. Its a small car. Meanwhile, Tesla literally suggested to people to remove their side mirrors for looks. In a 3 ton truck.
edit: I am well aware there are cameras which are meant to replace the physical mirrors. I am also an auto technician who has seen many cars, some only a few years old, with broken cameras and sensors. I like cameras and sensors as a backup, but do not want to rely on them.
At least, the cameras remain, so it's not that big difference than any modern semi with the camera mirrors. The question is, where are you going to see the picture from those cameras. I hope, not on the center screen, which would be stupid AF.
I'd wager that most accidents are caused by people who don't use those mirrors anyway. Maybe Tesla has a better way?
??? As much criticisms as Tesla deserves... this is NOT one of them. Removing mirrors is to make the car more aerodynamic, the whole electric car segment has been trying to get rid of mirrors in favor of camera/monitor in order to gain more efficiency... This should have been done a long time ago with gas cars as well, but efficiency is nowhere near as critical for gas car buyers, and so the regulation has stayed requiring them..
cant in Australia, its a safety feature n it illegal to remove safety features you can change them but NOT REMOVE
most accidents are left turns @@notdan995
video summary: the crash tests are completely fine and up to standard. He is “horrified” because of how much damage this beast can do to other people/cars in crashes
You know semi trailers exist right, and in far greater numbers than what this vehicle will be sold in.
@@kingcosworth2643Semis require special licenses and can only drive on certain roads.
@@Texan_BoyKisser Yeah, it also has a person that is payed on how fast he can get there, and is most likely tired or doing other stuff. I have seen people clipping toe nails, reading, watching TV and making food on a hot plate just to name a few. So it's not like the licenses guaranties anything really.
@@Texan_BoyKisserlicenses don't mean shit. It all depends on who is driving the damn thing
@@losientoo that's why they're personal and nontransferable. Now, if your state is giving them out like candy that's a different issue.
It's always been so funny to me that the Cybertruck looks like the Top Gear electric car experiment.
that car on the episode was a funny joke, the cybertruck is a real life nightmare.
"Jeff"
@@areti4384*Geoff
OMG I forgot about Geoff, you're so right hahaha
If everyone just drove a Geoff.
You forgot to add the sponsored badge bro
and you forgot to add the arm chair engineer diploma bro.
The amount of bullshit on the internet abt teslas and cybertrucks is fucking wild. The amount of things they say abt the cybertruck that are COMPLETELY NORMAL like not being rated by the NHTSA is crazy. ppl rly need to stop doing research (and voicing their opinions) with a conclusion in mind. Evidence first, then conclusions, never the otherway around.
"the driver kept pressing the accelerator thinking it was the brake"
How do you even get a driving license if that's your level of control over your car?
I think it could happen to anyone, although it’s probably a pretty low probability. You have to keep in mind that when it happens, there’s going to be some intial confusion and the inner ear can be really deceptive in those situations. Hell, there have been some passenger jet crashes because a pilot was so convinced by his inner ear that he refused to believe what the instruments were telling them. I understand the sentiment, it’s really difficult to believe that your brain can malfunction sometimes, but we are all imperfect organisms that evolved through an imperfect process on an African Savanna
What I heard was that the electronic brakes malfunctioned. I think some models of Tesla don't have manual brakes?
@@vinsanity982no dude, it can't happen to normal people, you shouldn't be allowed to be a driver if you do that
@@vinsanity982Let's just decelerate from 20 to 0 mph...oh wait, that looks exactly the same as if I'm driving with 200 mph seeing houses and cars flying by not being able to steer properly 😂
@@emperornephew6487You can’t argue with biology
The cybertruck just being recalled for self-pedal misapplication puts this video in a new light.
And after the creator spent so much time hyping up how Tesla's safety standards are top notch too LMAOOOO
@@StoutShako Sounds like the troll doesn't have any money😂. What's your annual pay? LMAO 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@timbrown9305 'mOnEy mAkEs yOuR oPpINiOn MaTtEr!' hopefully you will grow out of your autism as you get older.
Another brand had a similar recall recently. If the engine lost speed signal it'd default to 255. Ooops....
Yeah, less than 6 had the pedal trim fall off so they did a quick recall to check the other 220 delivered. Not some revelation or risk.
The internet armchair engineers were wrong on this?!!?!?
Shocking, I know
@@AIDRIVRThank you for this video! Somehow it is ok to sell the F150 in Europe, but the Cypertruck is too pointy.
You understand the irony here right? You are an armchair engineer and so is this guy haha
@@mitchellbarnow1709 And the Fiat Ducato, Ford Transit, VW Crafter, Mercedes Sprinter, VW IDBuzz.
@@harriska use your own mind.
So what is making AI driver, somehow affiliated with Tesla, an expert? I don’t think any argument is directly disproven by saying „Oh this would only be the worst scenario possible“ 😂
"I dOnT sEe AnY dIfFeReNcE"
the partial crash test is to prevent cheating because cars were getting better at full frontal but did poorly in head on collisions. Getting both right is important so would prefer to see the full crash tests instead.
Exactly, also, correct me if I am wrong, but partial crashes are way way more common than head on collisions.
Also the way he said "Your strict pedestrian impact testing", those are not strict as they could be, look at any modern car that's being sold in the EU.
Cybertruck is a moving blade and should not be allowed anywhere as of now.
Then they should have compared partial to partial.
@@samuelbucher5189then Tesla Should arrange to have its vehicles tested by IIHS
@@samuelbucher5189 and that is what did not happen. In a full frontal the trucks will crumple less because there is more mass to crumple. I've had a full frontal with a concrete barrier before, the old car stopped it easily without much Gs on me. One of the key features cars have in a full frontal is to lengthen the collision time by going up as we know from trigonometry that results in a longer path. However partial tests are more important if you care about road safety because thats whats going to happen if you hit a tree or have a head on collision and thats why this comparison shown in the video is incomplete or inconclusive. The heavier the vehicle the harder it will be to lift up as well in a full frontal to extend the crash duration. Ofcourse being crash incompatible is a problem but the cybertruck seems to have a lower bumper than the other display trucks that pretend to be a full semi. At least it isnt pretending to be a full semi.
And knowing Musk, I'm sure it's not just a coincidence those aren't included here.
When i realised how ridiculously massive and heavy trucks (and cars in general) are getting nowadays, my respect for the old, small but surprisingly practical trucks like the Datsun, old f-150 trucks and even the Japanese kei trucks got higher than ever.
I duly concur. Several years ago, I found and bought a 2004 Tacoma, regular cab with over 56k miles, in great condition. Glad I did when I did then. To this day, it still has under 100k miles (typically just my work truck, to and from work), and still runs great (doing all the maintenance and upkeep myself). Thought about selling it a few times (have gotten some great offers for it), but then they just don't make these smaller trucks anymore. Only thing I would've wished it was was a 5-speed instead. Ah well. No loss there. Some of these newer, bigger trucks look pretty darn good. But there is something about the smaller trucks of yesteryears that just can't be beat.
@@harryv6752 ironically, those new bigger trucks have smaller flatbeds despite their massive size. Why? Because nowadays, a truck is more of a status symbol rather than a workhorse. People buy these trucks (like the cybertruck featured in the video) because they think it makes them look badass. What's the point of having a 3 ton road-legal tank with a 0-60 mph of less than 3 seconds, but only using it to drive your kids to school?
@@Enola_Straight "makes them look badass" sums it up perfectly. The CT is an amazing feat of engineering, but the people buying and driving it won't be working in construction lol. It'll be those who bask in the sun shining out of Elon's butthole, where everything he touches is amazing, who will be lining up to buy this truck. It will be massive in the USA and I imagine the Arab countries will buy it by the shitload as well. Europe? Well, we have smaller streets and less worship of the massive car (it still exists don't worry) so it won't be appearing over here in it's present incarnation anyway. We have all these silly regulations to protect other road users from pedestrians to cars, and the CT hitting a normal car would be instant death to anyone in the non steel vehicle. As for pedestrians, bikers, cyclists? Sliced and diced baby with those sexy sharp edges. But USA is #1 so anything goes. Would love to take a ride and even test drive one of these on a track though :) Not down on Tesla per se, just think the CT is kinda... well silly when it comes to practical road use.
@@Enola_Straight Yeah, totally. Faking the funk but really not about the funk at all.
Had a buddy who bought a 2022 Forerunner that he decked it out. Raised it. Threw on a winch, light bar and light pods, some big wheels, gnarly tires, a roof rack, and was still planning on doing more to it.
I used to clown on him like, "Bro, so when are you takin' that thing off road? You doing all this to it and it ain't even been on dirt yet. You're not even an outdoors guy."
He'd typically respond with, "Just waiting on you."
And I'd throw back to him, "Sh1t. That's YOUR car. I'm always out there on the weekends. Where' YOU at?"
It was funny. He babied it like crazy, rarely drove it, and yet was hooking it up for some big off roading adventure he would never go on.
And though funny, people will do what they will with their money, practical or not. I tend to only spend my money on things that are useful for me. Fruck the image or trying to look cool or baddass. That's just whack.
Cars have to be regulated by size and weight but not by absurd CAFE standarts.
Japan done great work by implementing Kei dimentions.
As someone who rides my bike everywhere and goes home at 11pm I have started riding with sunglasses because of how bright the headlights are on most vehicles, the problem is that at the end of the day I'm forced to ride on the road in some areas, and being blinded every 30 seconds by a passing truck driving with their brights on is probably the worst part of my day, they don't even need it, there's brand new streetlights on this road
There are also stupid people using their high beam headlights when cars are coming on the other side. A reminder to those people: the law strictly prohibits this behavior. I got very unlucky recently because of that.
I would guess they are not the high beams some or most of the time. its so easy to upgrade your headlights. My wifes Lacrosse falls into this really bright category with a simple HID light upgrade. I didnt know what I was doing at the time of order. They are being downgraded soon.
@@Andrew-FKF HID lights have the benefit that you can still see the pattern, but with the high beams it's just one giant glare. In my unlucky case, it was that one giant glare.
yuk sorry that sounds no fun@@Sedaura
@@Andrew-FKF It's okay. In my unluckiness, I'm still lucky to have made it out alive with no physical injuries.
it's not about how well the car holds up, it's about how well it protects the people inside
I would wait for independent crash testing, it's hard to say by eye how the Cybertruck performs. That being said, Cybertruck appears to have a shorter period of slowing down the passenger compartment in the fair comparison with F-150, which means greater forces on the passengers.
Its the time it takes to stop, not the length of the crumple zone.
@@deus1655 Which is primarily limited by the length of the crumple zone.
Strength is the only other significant variable, and determines the smoothness and slope of the deceleration: too weak and there is a sudden spike of deceleration when the crumple zone 'bottoms out', too strong and the deceleration is too rapid to make much difference to the forces on the passengers.
@SanityTV_Last_Sane_Man_Alivelol bruh you clearly are the one that doesn't get it
not to mention the rear axle not snapping on the F-150...
There is no rear axle on the cyber truck. He said that as a joke for smooth brain folks like you. He explains it within the next 60 seconds of the video. You'd know that if you didn't have the attention span of an acorn.@@strangelet4588
FYI it's actually harder to dissipate the force for the front overlap test as the force is focused on one corner of the vehicle.
This is why the overlap test was introduced - vehicles had been acing the frontal crash test, but in the real world, occupants were getting injured badly.
So bro j blatantly lied then 😭
bros a so called expert shut the hell up
@@ashwinnaidoo796nah I think he just explained improperly. He meant the small overlap is obviously going to crunch in more than a full frontal, not that it’s easier to pass.
But in the real world, a full squared frontal is insanely rare unless you have no self preservation.
Oh, my, shill is not an engineer either ... Who would have thought :)
So? The reason the video shows the frontal was to show it measures up to the safest truck.
The hummer was absolutely complained about. The fear wasn’t quite as wide spread bc there was a concern no one would buy one anyways but the weight of these vehicles are approaching numbers that some residential infrastructure like Suva urban streets and driveways lifespans will literally be altered if this continues.
@@OmarRodriguez-vl2tq And when they do address them it'll be in some half-arsed slap dash way.
The thing I fear the most is shitty drivers like how tf people get petals mixed up and press it for that long and don’t even try changing it like wtf 😭
i never saw or heard anything about the hummer lmao
@@MrPacman64 then you weren't following the conversation. 9k pounds and 0-60 in 3s, there were non-stop discussions in car circles for a while about how dangerous of a recipe it was, not to mention its size. However cybertruck took all the attention away because it looks sharp enough to cut a pedestrian in half, so people (outside of car circles this time) are concerned
@@davidsucks922 my point was that I didn't have to follow the convo about cyber truck because everyone made a big stink about it... I gave equal attention to both and all I've seen is cyber truck hate
partial overlap crash tests are actually much more difficult and introduced later because full frontal impacts were too easy and not representative of real world crashes because much less area is available to absorb the impact energy
It seems to me the horror is less the vehicles themselves and more the idiots driving that shouldn’t have access to them.
Exactly, and no "special license" is going to fix that.
@@arcguardianif they had the same standards that Germany had when getting your license people would be WAY better drivers.
if liveleak has taught me anything, it's that chinamen are absolute geniuses at turning good things into absolute trainwrecks. but yeah, special licensing won't do shit without making other problems even worse. a far better solution is one that tesla are already moving towards, that being the use of ai in the cars, since ai are actually reliable, and because it would cost significantly less to install an ai into some threshold of the percentage of cars on the road, vs forcing every single person who drives to take some test from a slow af government agency or whatever.
@@arcguardian so then should we have them?
EXACTLY
I live in the Czech Republic and sometimes see imported trucks like F150, and they are effing HUGE. I am always super cautious around them, and I cannot even comprehend how you guys in the US can drive around these things daily. Be safe you all.
That's because you drive Fiat , 😂Scoda or Trabant size clown cars for gas economy because fuel is equivilant to what? $7.00+ a gallon. If you as an older person can exit one of these vehicles GOOD ON YOU! At 6'4" I own a PT Cruiser , Nissan Rogue and a F150 crew cab pu. The Nissan is horrible as for passenger or a driver PT is a convertible so rear seat is only an option unless you have kids and is not as bad to exit so guess which one gets used the most? Btw all get about the same milage so no advantage to geting yourself all in a knot to drive the smaller cars.
@@matthofnagel3992lmao, any modern small car will get 2x or even 3x the efficiency of an oversized truck nobody needs on a daily. Trucks have their use, but most people in the usa who own trucks don’t need the bed capacity, it’s only for their ego. Also you forgot to mention parking as a huge factor. You will really feel those 13L/100km when oil prices will eventually rise.
@@matthofnagel3992 Weird how there are almost none of these dumbass trucks in Czech republic yet most if not all elderly people that drive a car just drive something with a seat a bit higher or just have it adjusted up, so they have an easier time getting out. You're out here showing europeans a solution to a problem that doesn't exist. Noone in their right mind needs a massive pick up truck - Europe is a prime example of that.
@@tdg9281 You don't know what some people do. Some have trucks for certain jobs.. hauling big trailers... campers... lmao. What makes you so important that you determine that everyone doesn't need a certain vehicle for a certain reason? Lmao. Not everyone is a fragile ❄❄❄❄. People who own them don't need the beds for the space? Why don't they? Each and every single person doesn't need the space, then share your all knowing knowledge as to why. What's the alternative for each and every one of them?
'OnLY FoR ThEIr eGO'
Nice 5 year old cartoon character pfp 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@Asymmetrical-Saggin A lot of people with big ass trucks are for their fragile ego or to over compensate for something. Yeah some people need trucks for work, but there's definitely a huge chunk of people buying trucks and large SUVs just for the sake of "owning the road"
16.000x per year 😅
I am always amazed how people who are overwhelmed by 2 pedals can have so much money to buy such cars.
Greetings from Germany.
I can answer this for you. Inexperience in one field does not mean you're inexperienced in others. Plus, you will get old as well and earlier than you like, you will be in similar situations, just because your body gets old and so does your brain.
Still, I'm also faszinated with crashes that seem so unnecessary.
16000 is universal for all vehicle types im guessing, not only tesla drivers
We live in very specialized world ,you basicallyneed only one very specialskill to be rich + we live in iIdiocracy don't you see some girls just show ass on onlyfans and make millions ?
@@leandergihr9598 so a guitar player that plays the guitar for 20 years is worse than one who plays it for 1 year? i dont get your logic.
you should know what the break & what the gas is if u drive a car on a regular basis. no matter the age. and if u are so old u cant do it anymore u just shouldnt enter the driver seat of a car anyways.
I've got 5 years behind the wheel of my Tesla - almost exclusively driven in 1 pedal mode. I also have an ICE suv that (shocker) requires both pedals be used. It takes a tiny, insignificant, momentary lapse in muscle memory - not attention - muscle memory, and bam, you are now rocketing forward. I've had it happen once, for about a tenth of a second, and I nearly drove into traffic. One pedal creeping forward, decided I wouldn't make a gap safely, released the accelerator (causing full regen braking) and thought 'I wont stop in time with just regen' and put my foot down abruptly thinking it was the brake - since I was currently feeling braking forces while my foot was on *a* pedal. That's all it takes.
I drive a sedan, ride a bike and do a lot of walking. I hate the selfishness of the people who have no legitimate needs for a "monster" truck. But insist on getting one and making America's roads a nightmare for everyone else.
As a German, it just puzzles me... what's the point of having a fast acceleration, if you can only ever drive the car at a crawl? Literally any moderately decent car can do 200 km/h or more. Doesn't matter if it's a hatchback, a minivan, a roadster or whatever. I used to own a Kia Picanto. 65 HP, and a top speed of 160 km/h. It weighed 850 kg, and was fine for just getting from A to B, if you were okay with cruising at a casual 130 km/h - whioch is already 10 MPH over the US speed limit. That tiny little car could basically tackle any standard US road situation with ease. So what's the point of having those giant trucks and massive motors? Seems absolutely pointless.
Ah, but you haven't taken into account American logic:
Driving a 1500kg hatchback at 200kph = Not Manly ❌
Driving a 3000kg truck with the same carrying capacity at 100kph = Manly ✅
Ich verstehe es auch gar nicht.
Perhaps you need to be on public roads in the US to understand. People in well handling vehicles often travel at speeds in excess of 80MPH, but then come upon those driving slower, and especially when those slower drivers won't get out of the passing lane, there is a need to maneuver around and quickly speed back up. Further with trucks, the torque and HP is a function of towing/hauling capacity. While it is true that many owners never use their trucks to their full potential, they are still designed to be capable of it for those purposes where it is useful.
Frankly I could say the same about most EVs if it weren't for the utility of trucks, that it seems rather silly to design them with power plants that can accelerate from 0 to 60MPH in under 10 seconds when on public roads they just need to keep up with everyone else, and yet sports cars exist which are even less useful, but at least more visually appealing.
Some people have jobs where they need trucks, cant haul very much with a shitty kia
Real Germans would NEVER ask that question.
@@stinkycheese804 You still don't need s 4 litre v8 to have a good performing car it's a nonsense. Look at what is on general sale in Europe unless you need huge amounts of torque (not many do) then a smaller better designed engine is a far better idea than a huge displacement v series
As an European, the first time I saw an American truck in real life I was like: "WTF, how a car has become so fucking big?" while sitting on my 335i nearly touching the floor. I think the height of my car was literally the size of his wheels. Absolutely gigantic.
Having any truck somewhere near the size of a F150 (length and width) or bigger can't even get to my house. They would not be able to take some of the 90degr. corners on the narrow roads of the town (mostly build 1500 and earlier). Delivery vans already have a hard time. Trucks/lorries/semitrucks can drop off their cargo outside of the city-center and electric vans take care of the logistics for the final km(s). Works perfectly fine and makes for very calm pedestrian living environment without noisy engines and exhaust fumes where people can sit outside their house and safely cross the street without having to look at metal boxes on wheels everywhere. We have cars, but they are smaller and kept out of sight whenever possible. Infrastructure for pedestrians, bikes, buses and trains gets the same or higher attention as for cars.
But they are practical. Towing RVs and hauling for jobs. Have to have it.
german here, I rarely ever see American pickups drive through here but when they do they barely even fit. Saw one parked at the side of the street and it was partially blocking the road while all other cars were behind the line. American trucks are built for wide ass American car dependent infrastructure roads, they don't always work on European pedestrian friendly streets
335i is an amazing car and I bet you would enjoy the Cybertruck just as much.
Absolutely. You guys are driving in the old parts of the town with the mirrors almost touching. That thing on that road would be like a bulldozer. @@Killbayne
Actual title: 'trucks are becoming too dangerous'
Trucks have always been dangerous, it is just getting worse.. Especially for the person not in the truck…
god bless America 🙏☠️
Not a big deal
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Doesn't help when that truck has edges that are literally as sharp as a knife
@@Chris_winthersyea but no one actually cares about that they just hate Tesla and besides if that truck is going fast enough where those edges make a difference you where probably going to die anyway even if there where rounded
I can overlook the fact that its ugly, I can overlook the fact that it'll kill anything or anyone it runs into, but I can't overlook the price or the messed up cargo area, or the aluminum frame, or the lack of range, and mostly the price. I could never justify buying something for that much money that doesn't do what my 40 year old truck can do when it comes to being a truck or traveling any distance needed without hesitation.
Most pedestrians who get run over are generally in some way at fault either due to tempting fate, or just plain stupidity. If you get run over in the street, its more likely natural selection at work not the fault of a truck being too tough, too high, or too deadly in some way.
you’re absolutely right, i live in Germany and for a (import) cybertruck you would actually need a special truck/semi license (everything over 3500kg max weight). I‘m not scared about the size and the weight though. i‘m just scared (even over here) about the stupidity of people being allowed to drive… driving licenses should include regular actual driving training mandatory for everybody that wants to keep their license.
Ah Germany, the world’s bastion of freedom and personal choice. FFS, you guys aren’t even allowed to criticize jewish criminal behavior.
@@keithmccormack6248this is about cars... cry elsewhere
@@keithmccormack6248go cry in your hospital so they can charge you for it bozo
You also need trains to be the main method of transportation since the vast majority of people inevitably don’t have what it takes to always follow safety rules on the road.
@@oceanthresher6184 thats probably what teslas first „non“-crashtest ad suggested, make the truck so smart that you can never crash it. not that i like the idea really that the car thinks for me in that way, but active crash protection is really a thing and it works.
This is the same reasons bike helmets and body armor are built the way they are, they're supposed to crumple to slow the impact, not stop all movement instantly.
Yeah that's why the cybertruck has a crumble zone
When the tesla got hit on the side, got damn. The passengers would have way more than whiplash.
It sounds like you didn't watch the video.
@@hiview3977 you sound slow
Nothing will save you on a bike.
The thing is. The car might be just as 'safe' as other trucks. But you have to realize what happens when it crashes With other smaller types of cars which is where it starts getting lethal
A typical Tesla or other E-Car weighs the same as my Chevy pickup truck when empty. 5ooo lbs.
Yes, a weapons race has started long ago. Ironically, it's the safety measures that drives it.
Womp womp
Tbh, I'd rather be in a sturdy box that would protect my family than sacrifice half of it to crumple zone saving some asshole speeding on his rigged Toyota
Safety of others is very low priority in such situations
Yes and no. Cars have a less tendency to roll over in a side impact, trucks and vans roll very easy in side impacts.
No need to be a expert to see this thing is the most hazardous thing on the road
cant belive this dude got me with the bait and switch of "um acktually all trucks are bad, the Cybertruck is the best of the worst therefore the best"
Clickbait fr
He has a point tho. SUV's are just absolutely stupid. Only if you have to regulary haul heavy equipement in off road situations they make some sense. Apart from that theyre dangerous, wasteful and impractical.
Every mercedes Sprinter, Iveco or whatever box van is cheaper, offers a ton more space and uses half of the gas while having better visibility, and maneuverability.
@@cheafchecker72You’re wrong.
@@beckigreenNo, he's right
So he didn’t spew the negative bs you were looking for?
there definitely should be a required license to drive a truck over a certain weight.
the fact that anyone with a basic license they got when they where a teenager can get a massive truck with zero oversight is just stupid.
There is in Europe alteast, for a normal drivers licence the car may not exceeding 3,500 kilograms (7,700 lb)
@@niklasravudd539 yeah, and new drivers can only drive small cars with less than 100 hp or something for few years
@@Rilex037no, they just get smaller cars bc the insurance is expensive for the first few years until the insurance becomes cheap again, so you get a small save car to save on insurance. Rich kids still get fancy cars bc they don't care
here in florida, america the first car I drove was a 7000 pound F350 lol
@@alexflosho a 3 year old was ran over earlier this year in my town because their truck was too tall for them to see behind them properly
I've wondered about the rigidity of the frame. Cars in the old days were like that and during collisions the force was transfered directly to the passengers resulting in crashes where the car survived but the passengers didn't. They decided people's lives were more important and cars were redesigned to have crumple zones which absorbed and redirected the energy around and away from the occupants.
I think the car is rigid since its intended to be a viable vehicle in space conditions. (even though 99.9% of people will never even get close to space)
I'd be interested in seeing how much force is applied to the passengers in these cyber truck collisions, because a major factor in safety isn't just crumple zones, but seat belts and airbags too. Crumple zones were applied before proper seat belts or airbags became standard, so we must keep that in mind as well when talking about older cars and safety
@@domosrage5434 Pedestrian don't have seat belts or airbags!
Indeed. While AIDRIVR may not see the difference. I do. Look at how far the mannequin goes into the airbag. That's... substantially more in the cybertruck. Which is TERRIFYING. Because in case you haven't seen one of these tests before, the energy it takes to go that far into the airbag ain't much less than what it takes to turn your organs into paste, I'd in fact argue its likely the same or even more given how the back of the mannequin in the cybertruck seems to snap, which would mean that's enough body to break a spine. I assure you, the spleen is weaker than the spine. Don't know who needed to learn that, but there it is.
So yeah... This mess looks like a deathtrap for everyone involved. Not to mention how the doors seem very easy to block up which would put the "trap" in death trap even more. I'm surprised its even legal, even by USA standards. And I already find USA standards HORRIFYING as it is!
@@domosrage5434Hah! "viable in space conditions" that's a good one... That mess isn't viable in Space. Not even close. Its way too heavy for its own good there, plus the windows are a mess (there's a good reason space vehicles minimize glass and absolutely do not have glass in sharp angles), etc, etc.
@@ulizez89 crumple zones are not for pedestrians either.
I've accidentally pressed the gas once in my life and as soon as the car revved/jerked into motion I immediately switched pedals because I realized I was pressing the gas and not the break. How do you keep pressing the "break" and not realize the pedal you're pressing is making the car move faster?
Like honest to god genuine question? How does it not somehow click that you might be pressing the wrong pedal if the harder you pushes the faster your car is going and the louder it's getting when you press said pedal?
Looking at automobile accident statistics makes you realize just how stupid people can be
I assume you were a young person with a car of average weight and acceleration when that happened. If you imagine the same thing happening in a 3 ton vehicle with sports car like acceleration and maybe even a person with slightly slower reactions (old person or inexperienced driver for example), the potential for serious accidents increases drastically.
@@khazaddum6570 I'll admit I was only 20 but the vehicle I was driving was Actually a 2013 Ram 1500 Big Horn and I was in 4x4 low which is stupidly responsive on the accelerator and turns off both TCS and ABS so I spun the tires.
Actually, the worst thing about the crash test is how the driver dummy's had snaps back with force after hitting the airbag, something that *does not* happen in the F150 test you compared it to.
There are videos out there analyzing exactly these two tests and in the F150 video it takes a lot longer for the driver's head to come to a full stop, which means less impact, and less trauma.
This part was considered bad for the F150 (one of the less successful aspects in its test) so it must be much worse for the Cybertruck.
Also, you might want to mention that its design makes it illegal to drive in EU, since unlike the US they have proper pedestrian safety laws, with which the CYbertruck is not compliant, while the F150 is.
That said, it's an open question why anyone in the EU would want to drive either vehicle. We have much more practical pickup trucks for work that calls for it (e.g. construction, see Iveco Daily with a truck bed and Piaggio Porter), more practical work vehicles for other things (i.e. vans), and when it comes to showing off various German manufactures have your back.
F150s may be legal here, but nobody is buying them. The biggest pickup I've seen all year were a couple Ford Rangers, and a RAM 1500 last year (which at stock ride height towered over my stock wagon, as in my eye level was at the top of that things tire). Nobody here wants either of these 2, because they also don't fit in regular lanes, let alone parking lots. Model Y's are literally line-to-line here, while I have a comfy 30ish cm on either side of my wagon
@@istvanlorinczi2817 Yes, at my workplace, Ford Mazda and Suzuki dealer, we have a few rangers, usually company cars, where they need the added ruggedness you dont get from a van. But those are pretty big compared to everything else on the road. I have seen a few Ram 3500 where i live, and they dont fit anywhere
Where are you getting your information? Are you just stating what you think is accurate based off your location and how many you see in your location? Do yourself a quick Google search and you will see the F series is the most purchased 1/2 ton for 2023. I have a new 2022 F-150 Supercrew and it fits in lanes just fine. It's also not at all hard to park even in small spaces, given I have the 360 camera package which does help make it easier. I think you've never owned a fullsized, and are just spitting out a lot of opinionated assumptions.@@istvanlorinczi2817
The dummys head position means absolutely nothing without having the telemetry and sensor data. This is why you can't trust internet experts. The neck could just as easily be bending because its a different airbag, or a different seating position, or a different dummy. No real expert is going to draw these kinds of conclusions from a video clip without the sensor data. The actual crash testing groups look at the actual data. So, go look at what they rate the Cybertruck when its out and see what they rate it.
Morons on the internet think that using stainless steel body panels somehow has ANYTHING to do with crumple zones. The part that does the crumpling is never the sheet metal. Its the crash beams and frame/subframe elements doing the crumpling. The Cybertruck has those just like any other vehicle. The fact that its sheetmetal doesn't bend and dent as much means exactly nothing.
I was trying to give it a shot but then you said "it has all wheel steer so it doesnt have a rear axle" and i just cant now, calling everyone out for being a fake expert while being a fake expert lmao
the cyber truck is also fucking edge galore its like a drving razor, the hummber ev is heavier yes but at least it wont CUT THE PERSON ITS RUNNING OVER IN HALF
@@stg607animationsI don’t think you understand that a truck will usually kill a pedestrian anyways, those edges make no difference
@@Ezmurloc dawg a bumper with curved edges has a chance to not kill the ped. look at the normal trucks and the cybertruck. do you get my point, lacerations lead to blood loss, hey what a coincidence the cybertruck has edges right where the ribcage and femur is. mind you that's where the lungs and the largest artery is respectively. fucks sakes
@@Ezmurloc do you realize what a knife travelling at 30 kmh does to your body?
@@stg607animationsDo you realize that doesn't actually matter?
My only concerns are A, obviously a pedestrian collision would be a minor inconvenience for the steel frame but almost certainly deadly for the victim, and B if i was in a front end collision with a bullet shaped aerospace steel armored truck im gonna die and they'll be fine
Honestly, any pedestrian collision can be deadly, it just boils down to what badge you want to be stamped by when you die.
Yea, you'll buff right off.
Sounds like a you problem
I’m pretty sure an f150 hitting a person has the same effect.
@@skyluke9476 Yeah honestly this "concern" doesnt make a ton of sense. Getting hit at high speed by a truck is going to kill you/mess you up horribly. Like, you're a pedestrian getting hit by a truck. What else could possibly happen.
If the cybertruck crash tests were so good they'd be bragging them up. The fact they haven't speaks volumes.
Gotta mention that (especially as a car guy) I love your takes on pedestrian safety. As a 6’1 dude, the fact that some of the trucks in my area are so high up that the hood is just below my chest freaks me the hell out.
Try it from 5'6"
as someone who is barely 5'5, I am thanksfull that I dont live in a place where vehicles like that drive on the roads
Yeah… what about a 12 year old kid…
Try it from 3’11”
look both ways before crossing. works for me, havent gotten hit by a big scary truck yet
Remember that experiment in highschool physics where you need to drop an egg without it breaking by building something around it to absorb the shock?
No
Water/egg in a kids plastic thermos worked for me.
my friend filled an entire trash bag with newspaper and put the egg in the middle, we all thought he was a genius
Ah yes we can fix the Cybertruck by showing it down with flexi straws and a parachute made of IHOP napkins
Lots of Honda copy, on the suspension, the under bed trunk and more. But wait, there are few delivered and few proven to be reliable. Not only if you buy an electric truck, you will get stranded and that is one big headache. Without many charging stations and it is not made for serious off-road use and it does not float. Deep mud nd soft sand, forget it. Sorry, soy boy fan boys keep trying. FAIL
Love the fact that you say people aren't giving an accurate comparison when you did the same, the full frontal crash @1:50 and the side impact test @2:28 are two entirely different models of F150s. One was a Lightning with a full battery pack and low center of gravity (like the cybertruck). The other is an XLT model, that means it's a gas powered vehicle and not an electric vehicle, hence no low center of gravity to prevent roll over.
@CentralStormz Yep! I did the UA-cam research for him just now in a matter of seconds: "2022-2024 Ford F-150 Lightning EV NHTSA MDB Side Crash Test". SMH 😏🤣
tesla fan boys are rabid they will lie through there teeth to "Prove" they are better.
Nice catch. I felt like he was living under a rock when he said @6:40 "I didn't hear anyone complaining about safety when the Hummer EV was released." Like what bro, where you at.
Overall a good video, America definitely has a mental illness that causes people to buy larger and larger trucks. After all, the F150 is Americas most popular Grocery-Getter
AI DRIVR being a non-expert while blaming a non-expert lol
I think the main reason they're attacking the Cybertruck is because it's made by Tesla and Elon, and one half of the political spectrum is now required by decree to hate everything he and his companies do, even if it's actually good.
The most important part of a car crash is always the passenger. In the full frontal crash, the test dummy gets junted all the way forward, and its head bends backwards. That's not a position you ever want to be put into. I don't care if it looks like the car could just drive away, I care about any major injuries that might occur to the passengers.
There were a ton of people that complained when the Hummer EV was released. Lots of articles shortly thereafter about the problem with big trucks and the dangers of heavier weights in collisions. I think the cybertruck complaints got noticed more because it's so different.
There's a growing voice in general about how absurdly wreckless car companies have gotten with these massive vehicles
yeah theres a growing discourse about how utterly negligent our regulations are here in the us, the cyber truck is just one of the most visible examples, those hummer evs are one of the dumbest, most recklessly designed things i've ever seen
the cybertruck gets noticed because in is so ugly and functionless. trucks are for hauling and towing, an this thing cannot accept a 5th wheel or have a bed big enough to carry a toothbrush. It would make an excellent can opener, however, as all the corners could easily open big 55 gallon cans. And if hit by the front corners of this truck, a pedestrian will be cleanly and instantaniously be cut in two! Yuk!
@bartlevenson Only thing, it has a space for 5th tyre, just you have to order it as an extra, Goodyear custom-made sculpturevwith 2part rim cover. It's jyst money and sliding rear cover for looks. And a lot of greasy fingerprints, despite not being painted. Oh and panel gaps sure could open various things, as they're mostly non-consistent. Otherwise i agree.
Cybertruck is 3000lbs lighter than the Hummer ev.
The most terrifying bit to me is that people buy this to feel safe when they get into accidents that they cause themselves, life of the person they hit be damned.
I got t boned in my truck by a lady on her phone driving a sedan. I'd have been dead in most any other vehicle.
@@stevenrs11 Yeah, I think phones, drugs/alcohol, and other distractions are a much bigger threat than pure vehicle size. Full Self Driving is a way to fix this.
@@AlphaCrucis Full self driving will become a pandemic. Software like that is impossible to perfect. Issues such as drugs, alcohol, phones, and other distractions will be gone- but will be replaced by scarier and uncontrollable and unpreventable issues such as glitches, bugs, hacking, failed updates, corrupted AI, etc.
@@shadeline Perfection is impossible regardless. Glitches have always happened with transportation. Now it will just be different kinds of glitches. There will always be tradeoffs. That said, one pro of FSD is that it will be orders of magnitude safer.
@@shadeline AI will get better over time but drunk drivers not.
it's not about the crumple zone, it's about the movement of the front occupants heads and the sudden impact with the airbag, you will notice with all of the other vehicles the front occupants heads travel much further before they come to a stop, this is by design, it prevents permanent brain damage
Read about the totaled Altis hitting a cybertruck? Whats interesting in the article was the one injured was the occupant of the CT and the guy in the totalled Altis was alright. IDK how accurate the article is but....
Doesn't matter, buyers of the CT are already braindead.
Yea the Cybertruck guy was "injured" while the altis guy was not because the altis guy was at fault in the accident.@@stpatr3k
"prevents permanent brain damage"
...well that won't be necessary for the people buying a Cybertruck
“Anyone can go out and buy one” Does everyone have an extra $110,000 now?
$66,000 as of now😊
@@the_even_toed_ungulate. no, still just over $100,000
I have $55 to my name and I'm on my way to grab one while that "anyone can get one" thing is still going on
😂 “space grade stainless steel” requires cleaning after every trip outside
😂😂
Well, there's not a whole lot of free-floating acid in space, is there?
Down here on Earth, on the other hand...
You must be slow
I'm not sure you understand words very well
Ehh I’d paint that thing the second i got it. Stainless will oxidize anyone who doesn’t paint it is insane.
That said why isn’t tesla painting these things again?
I knew of a case where a little old lady went to her agent's office, paid her car insurance premium, came out, got her pedals mixed up, and drove her Lincoln Town Car through four rooms of the insurance office, until the building's back wall stopped her. She told the police "The harder I pushed on the brake, the faster it went!"
So the insurance company was doubly screwed.
@@bificommander7472 Pretty much! Even the building owner was the insurance agent himself. Fortunately, no one was injured at all. The agent was most concerned that all of his office's computers were destroyed, but all data were backed up at corporate. The company overnighted him a whole new set of computers with all software and data installed like nothing had happened. He was back in business the next morning.
@@bificommander7472guess you could say that the insurance company needed insurance. 😂
Something that amazes me is that everyone forgot that bullet proof glass on a civilian car is completely useless, just add weight so you take more energy. It’s even dangerous in a case of a crash, in a standard car you take your head rest and smash it in the window to leave the car. In the cybertruck, you’ll have to pray that the firefighter get at you fast.
The glass isn't bullet proof. Just shatter resistant beyond normal glass.
So far everyone has gave their opinion on accidents of the cyber truck hitting property/people but imagine how easy it is now for people to get their hands on a crowd plough and can then boost away or even attempt to ram higher grade audiences. All while appearing like a normal unmodded vehicle.
Don't know what nonsense world you live in, but the last 2 vehicles I owned the headrests were not removable.
@@TheDgdimick in fact, on some vehicle they can’t be removed, that’s why you can buy a little tool that you put in your glove box. It’s like a mini hammer but with a sharp metal end that way you can break the window, if it’s not bullet proof.
it's a marketing point, which is especially effective for a pickup truck trying to be "tough" and "masculine"
Proper cars: proper crumple zones
Cybertruck: You are the zone
The crumple zone is about stopping the cybertruck. If someone hits a CT, it is their crumple zone that counts for them. Crumple zones are NEVER designed to save the obstacle being hit.
@@ScottSuhr-l8m whiplash is fun, and the cyber truck will help its passengers get it, a bike helmet is designed to break to disperse the force of the impact if you wear one that hold together that force will be transfered to you head and neck, in other words "your the crumple zone"
Thanks for the video putting the Cybertruck in context. I think there's something quintessentially American to say that they don't care if what they're doing reduces the safety of everyone around them as long as it makes it safer for themselves.
ESPECIALLY when it doesn't even do that
Because getting hit with an F-150 and you would walk away scratch free 🙄
@@ZackScriven You know, you'd look like less of a clown if you watched the video before posting...
@@miccullen I did. I stopped watching when he said the back axle snapped at 0:55 when it’s simply the rear wheel steering the wheel turned.
@@ZackScriven Watching less than a minute of an eight-minute video is not "watching the video."
You overlooked one thing with the crumple zone, it is there to absorb the impact which it does so noticeably worse then the other full frontal crash. You can see the dummy basically contorting their spine as they get a lot less travel distance
His point was that ANY car or truck that hits an absolutely immovable object is going to be pain. Small differences like this don't warrant all the hate; there are cars and trucks with worse frontal collision scores.
The Cybertruck getting hit at all will probably be a write off for the insurance company! They will not let you drive it. EVs after accidents are totaled.
@@guyfawkesuThe1 Don't forget that these body panels all need to be replaced even with tiny scratches as its super hard to fix bare SS.
Did you watch the video without sound?
@@CouchPotatordid you even watch the video? There's a side comparison of two front hits and the other cars dummy neck remains straight, the cybertruck dummy's neck has alot of movement
I am in the UK and I use a RAM 2500 for moving logs into the house during this colder season. I feel like a terminator using that thing on small back roads. It truly makes you realise how daft they are when Doris in her Honda Jazz is having to drive into a ditch just so I can get past in this stupid thing. For the record I do enjoy using it offroad and a load bed is perfect for unsplit logs
Edit: I love that the average response from Americans is not that we should make smaller vehicles that are safer and more economical. But that we should make roads bigger, ruining the countryside
That last reason is part of why trucks have gotten bigger but it seems people over exaggerate how big normal duty trucks are because my 92 Chevy 1500 is only 700lbs lighter than a 2023 one.
So what's the alternative? You wanna haul those logs with the Honda Jazz?
I've driven a Fuso Canter with the biggest cargo box legally possible and never felt bad when it came to tight situations and others do not seem to care much either, cause most people know that those big vehicles are working for them too.
We can all be cool with each other 24/7, 365 days a year. From Cybertruck to Renault Twingo. Nobody has to be in a hurry 🙂
It's nice to see a man can criticize his own purchase... And I agree horses for courses you need to move logs and pick up is the easiest.. Or maybe even a transit Tipper with just a hi front also.. Trying to be an armchair engineer..lol.., it appears that the height of the bonnet is an important point anything above 40 inches is 45% more likely to kill predestrian.. But then if you travel above 25 miles an hour it's the same anyway.. And everyone does that.. Hopefully all cars eventually will have collision avoidance that is 99% effective.
Sounds like the UK makes unsafe roads that are to small then. You don't even have to drive into the ditch if a Semi is on the road with you in the USA.
@@dozerboyd8784WHY does the Whole world laugh at Americans behild their backs?????
"Strict" pedestrian impact testing, you mean 'logical'. You make a good point, although I think the cybertruck is an awful car and extremely unsafe so are 99% of pickup trucks, thankfully we don't see them in Europe/UK.
Pickup trucks are extremely versatile. Europe is much worse off for not having them.
@Zorro9129
> Citation needed
Not everyone's genital is as tiny and pathetic as yours to feel the need to overcompensate with an oversized truck who's boot is small than pickups of the 70s
@@Zorro9129 No. I do not need a flatbed. My daily needs require a one ton subcompact car that doesnt drink much fuel. For the two times a year I need a bigger car to haul something, I go to the local hardware store and rent a hauling van. And its cheaper than what I would have to pay for feeding a 3 ton pickup that cant fit in half the parking spots in my city.
@@2MeterLP Fine then. But I bet you can't mount a machine gun on your dinky subcompact. Nor does it probably have good acceleration and speed which you could get with a sportier coupe.
I don't know why you snowflakes in Europe are so offended by any vehicle that isnt a compact.
Just like to point out that the side collision test clip is with an ICE F-150, not a Lightning. It has a much higher centre of mass and is much lighter - hence it going more sideways. Great video - I agree… I know family that own trucks, but every one of them actually use them for it’s intended function - hauling, towing, etc, regularly, so they know how to handle a truck safely at its limits.
I think people are scared of the Cybertruck (and the Hummer EV) because it’s more form and ridiculousness over function, and that especially attracts people who will not be careful with it - inexperienced divers looking for a status, or someone with poor impulse control pushing road safety to it’s limits.
We’ve all experienced a sporty car cut across three lanes on the busy freeway - sometimes it’s irresistible to certain drivers with all that speed at their fingertips. Now imagine that same driver at the wheel of something just as quick, but it weighs 6x as much and is built like an APC - that’s scary.
He knows that already I'm sure.
A Lightning is an F150, fella. It's a trim level.
@bcubed72 the Lightning LOOKS like an F150, but is build on a completely different chassis that include the battery pack creating a lower center of gravity, similar to the Cybertruck... fella
Tesla drivers are already some of the most entitled and dangerous drivers rivaling pickup drivers. The buyers of the Cybertruck are going to be a mix of those and THAT is what is truly terrifying.
@@1985HabsFanForever The Lightning trim level is a big engine, alloy wheels, and sportier suspension. Still an F150. Kind of like GMs Super Sport trim level.
Except the fact the steel used... is stated by the company to be not resistant to corrosion at all and as the steel is naked... anything that gets on it can and will eat it.
Stainless steel is merely corrosion resistant, high Chromium and Manganese content helps, but in the end, you have inhomogenities in chemical composition at crystalline grain boundaries, where the corrosion sets in and spreads. Works even better if you scratch up the surface, since that will become the new nucleation point for corrosion. Sure, when compared to regular steel it's going to take a few months for it to start to rust instead of instantly, but dipping the parts in a zinc bath could dramatically improve the corrosion resistance.
@@jackvernian7779Not a few months, people have reported rust after 11 days.
@@lich109 not actual rust of the panel but surface stains from airborne iron particles landing on the vehicle during manufacturing and shipping.
The panels themselves are not rusting.
@@virtualbystander If you say so. That certainly seems contrary to how they recommend you treat your car.
@@lich109 not one example of the panels themselves rusting. Just surface stains. Easy to take care of. There are a few products that clean iron particles off the surface. No big deal.
As an Australian, we deal with horrible car crashes from reckless drivers…and that comes from smaller cars.
These “mini-trucks” are abominations. They’re monstrous and ugly cars essentially.
I live in a country that takes road safety EXTREMELY seriously. I don’t even own
a car because they’re too expensive.
I find it completely revolting these awful looking vehicles are normalised in the USA.
We hate shit like this. They take up too much space and are a danger to the community.
The difference between these two is that while both take roughly the same amount of time to stop, the f150s crumble zone allowed the deceleration to be more controlled in that time resulting lower overall g forces on the passengers. The cyber truck took roughly the same amount of time to stop from impact, but the short crumble zone means it crushed slowly at first but had a sharp deceleration as the crumble zone ended, essentially resulting in a large spike of g-forces right at the end of the deceleration. That's the dangerous part of the cyber truck.
Yeah just look at the way the neck stays in one place in the ford and the way the neck jolts in the cyber truck…
Except your full of crap and are clueless about it actual g forces in the crash.
Tesla had been building the safest cars on the road. What makes you think that this truck will be any less safe?
Safety has ALWAYS been Tesla's first priority. CT will win safety awards mark my words.
The guy that made this video is even less informed that the fictional people he’s debunking…
@@footbrakefreddy It looks like an airbag problem to me... The one on the F150 seems to be lower which stops the head and torso at the same time, while the one in the Cybertruck only stops the head
You have literally no idea what you're talking about. You're watching a 2 second video clip and making all kinds of wild assumptions about crumple zones and G-forces. You cannot tell from these videos what the G-loads were and over what time. Just stop.
Lost me the moment he made the claim that in the frontal offset crash it was much easier to dissipate the energy. That test was specifically added because its a lot more difficult to safely dissipate the energy. The force is concentrated in a smaller area. In fact for a couple of years the Wrangler rolled over when the IIHS did the test.
He is absolutely right. But you have to define dissipation. Rolling over IS dissipating energy, even if aint great for a passanger.
@DavidPruitt You are right. It's more difficult. But what is true is that it's not fair to compare to a full frontal crash. And it will always look like more crumple zone when you do make an overlap test due to more force on one part of the vehicle and it collapsing further. Basically. I know I didn't explain this in detail or fully correct, but we all know that you have to compare the same test to the same test. Not two completely different testing techniques.
That’s extremely silly to ban the cyber truck or any Tesla for that matter, because you allow 15,000 pound semi trucks that can tow 80,000 pounds, that could cause far more damage and lives than every single Tesla combined
@@RH-th1zu Yea but without those 20k semis we kinda go back to 1800s
It lost me when he kept saying ''space grade stainless steel'' wich is just a marketing name, only used by fanboys that really believe everything elon says.
the fact that everyone was saying it snapped a rear axle when it doesn't even have one, is peak internet experience.
cant break a bone if you don't have it in the first place
There's also many other components actually holding a wheel into place, like a wheel bearing, tie rod, etc.
@natmarelnam4871 i think you missed my point. I never argued that it had an axle at all. Im pointing out that its illogical to assume an axle snapped just because a wheel broke off center.
😂😂 it doesn’t have axles. Just electric motors with cv shafts
@natmarelnam4871😂😂😂 it don’t have axel. Just motor and cv shaft 😂😂😂
The guy behind me got rear ended by a giant Silverado a few years back. It totaled 5 cars, killed 2 people, and ruined my neck. That truck was just his daily driver.
it is as you said stainless steel and thick, so whoever crashes with it WILL collide with a basically immoveable object since its center of gravity is low as well, crashing with a cybertruck seems super scary
If the Cybertruck ever comes to Europe it'll likely be limited to 90 km/h because it's too heavy. You'd also need a special license if that happens.
As it is now with its 3+ tons, you'd already need a C license (light truck) on top of the regular B license.
@@Hamachingo I thought that was 3.5 tons but I wasn't sure. Thx for the clarification.
The dual motor Cybertruck weighs 6700 lbs, which is about the same as other class 2b light/medium duty trucks such as the Ford F-250, Nissan Titan XD, and Ram 2500, Chevrolet Silverado 2500.
@@MrTeff999those aren't common in Europe
no but it's a cmparison to make for licensing purposes.@@scdu
Totally agree - it's a scary moment when some truck comes up behind you and you can't even see their headlights.
If that scares you wait untill you see a 18 wheeler. Teasing aside. We do way more dangerous stuff than share the road with these all the time.
you'll notice the eyesore in your mirrors 😂
@@PharozosIn Europe, lorry driver must have C license, or C+E for lorry+trailer. They don’t hand out those like it’s Christmas, they are limited to 90 km/h, and are under bigger scrutiny.
Do lorry drivers do stupid shit here? Sure! But it’s much more rare, compared to regular drivers.
Now, every cun- I mean, person here can buy a RAM, and those drivers have the regular B license like. I’m sorry, but I put more trust into the professional driver, over some wanna be cowboy with small genitalia complex.
@@athl0n I'm not speaking about the driver. I'm talking about the 33,000 pounds of truck and trailer. I have seen plenty that are falling apart. It only takes a split second of inattention to merge on top of a regular car.
Get a bigger truck.
Better Question: Would you rather crash in a car that you know if safe (rating from IIHS, NHTSA, and manufacturer) or crash in a car that you have use "trust me bro" logic on (manufacturer tests only)?
yep. no cyberteuck
I would rather crash in a car that will survive and keep driving with only cosmetic damages than a car that has a crumble zone in the engine and will crumble beyond repair
@@vnc.t The cybertruck will probably kill you.
@@vnc.t So a tank, then.
As a bonus, unlike the cybertruck, the tank will also keep the driver intact after a crash, allowing you to keep driving immediately. They don't suffer cosmetic damage, either.
@@vnc.tso you want your car to survive rather than yourself?
I definitely agree! Seeing the number of people driving big diesel and gas pickups just to get groceries is absurd. I do more "truck stuff" with a Forester than most of my friends do with their trucks. It's more convenient and more efficient.
Cool story
My dad has a f150 and order the cyber truck. We go skiing every weekend and biking in the summer at hard to reach places. a truck is needed for the offroading and especcialy for hauling dirt bikes and bikes. but most people dont need them which is why i agree with you
Though it does seem 90% of f150 owners only buy them because they think they're country folk but in reality, all it does is hall their disgustingly obese American family to mcdonalds and to buy three bags of grocery.
Subaru is what real outdoors people use. Go to any state park and tell me how many you count.
I feel like I do more truck stuff with a toaster than what most people do with an actual truck.
@@toggle.i can get to all the same places as almost any pickup expecially stock pickups in my fucking station wagon and with hauling dirt bikes and shit I just use my trailer. you do not need a 8000lb truck to drive up to ski or to get around the basic offroading that it can handle.
I agree, a 3000kg truck that is silent and launches like a rocket is straight up dangerous to everyone around it. Especially if a driver like you said mistakes accelerator for brake pedal, that thing has no mercy for any wall or such.
people who mistake brake for acceleration should not be allowed to operate big metal machines
@MadsterV I would argue that's just natural selection. But, they could kill others with their sheer stupidity. If you are intending to brake, and you notice you're revving the engine and you still don't stop, there's nothing that can possibly help you
@@MadsterV Yet it happens in the US almost daily because automatics don't require any real aptitude or concentration to drive them, the majority of cars in the US are basically just powerful go-karts with a go pedal and a stop pedal, that is why so many immature teen drivers and demented elderly drivers find themselves hitting the accelerator as soon as they are flustered and end up wrecking someone's house/shop/life.
Morons exist. I recently saw in news where a worker bulldozed a house at wrong address.@@MadsterV
The silent factor on all electric is scary, I was walking into the store and i felt weird for some reason and i turned around and there was a electric just a foot behind me, no warning so you could move, and i wasnt even in the middle of the isle either.
Interesting insights. I'm from germany and I share your aversion to seeing people alone in these huge SUV's, looking down on their phone, blasting through the city. I'm a cyclist, so this stuff scares me alot. But these sharp edges on the cybertruck are something else man :D it will never drive in germany...
it is banned in europe...
Cyclists scare me. They rarely follow the rules and expect me to be able to see them while breaking the rules.
"it will never drive in germany." Just as the Unimog, Ford Transit, Fiat Ducato, VW Crafter, VW IDBuzz, Iveco Daily.
@@yasemeen Nonsense. Its just as banned as the yoke.
@@yasemeen What? IS THAT FREEEEEDOM!!
People need to understand those stainless steel panels have nothing to do with the reinforcement of the vehicle. That’s why the truck is illegal in Europe.
I feel for the firemen having to cut people out of these steel coffins. Also that neck movement in the front crash test is very concerning....not sure why you didnt mention thay
Tesla shill, I think
With force, that's a C1-C4 spinal cord injury for sure
A demo saw in a heavy rescue truck will dice that cybertruck up like it was lettuce.
What wheel do you need sir? Diamond
Because these dolls have actual sensors that tell qualified people when something bad is happening inside. Do you really think that you can tell without any actual training what happened in this video is worse than what happened in all other cars?
5:52 I still remember a very dramatic example of this. My company used to load new cars onto railcars. One morning when I came in late, I see a railcar door that’s been pried wide open at the top deck, and a car on it’s roof 20 feet below. Turns out one of the few coworkers I hated there (she was a two faced, backstabbing, habitual liar that thought she was above everyone), had pressed the gas instead of the brakes and launched herself of the top deck and fell 20 feet. She shattered her ankle and we never saw her again. We found out that she lied (shocker) about a brake malfunction. So the company that built the car took it back inside and did diagnostics on the crash. They found out that a few seconds before the crash, she applied 100% accelerator and 0% brakes according to the computer’s “black box”. Glad she was gone though. Sucks that a car had to get destroyed for it though.
Where they Crown Vics you were loading by chance? I knew a few guys that did the same job
@@juggernautjim7719 Not crown vics in this case. However, that is a fantastic guess, as it was the other big Ford assembly plant in Ontario. We were loading Ford Edges, Ford Flexes, Lincoln MKX’s, and Lincoln MKT’s. AND I actually did work shipping the crown vics, but it was only for 2 days in 2010 when the guys in St. Thomas were too burnt out to ship everything themselves that weekend. unfortunately, I don’t remember any of the names of the people that we were shipping with in St. Thomas though. But yes, Autoport was a great gig.
Don't be too hard on her for "lying" for pressing the wrong pedal (the rest of the stuff she did is fair game though). Far, far too many people do this. You are confident that you are pressing the brake and the car keeps going. You then press harder but are now panicking, so you are unable to think clearly. At that point you are simply hitting what you think is the brake while trying to steer around obstacles. All of this typically happens in a matter of seconds, not even enough time to tell yourself that you are on the wrong pedal.
@@anthonypelchat It's because of piss poor driver training. People are allowed to drive cars without even knowing the bare basics about how they work. I'm not saying everyone needs a BAR certified mechanic, But basic understanding of car workings goes a long way. Also just basic vehicle operation and literacy is so far down from what it once was. People need to be trained to operate complex machinery, and we aren't doing that.
@@GregoryVeizades I agree. We probably also need better training before larger vehicles are allowed to be driven. Won't ever happen though. We will have fully self driving cars before we have a mostly safely driving population.
This video felt so natural that I didn't even pause and think that this is not your usual kind of video until you mentioned it at the end. I am all for it.
This should be illegal. It doesn't pass safety tests
They don't in UK
Honestly the fact that so many people have a license scares me. I mean until we have better public transport it’s probably essential in some situations, but at the same time the sheer danger of bad drivers feels like it’s ignored. We kind of just accept that a lot of car accidents occur without looking at the driving capabilities of people who have been in multiple accidents.
Yes, we accept that in exchange for personal freedom. Death is not the end. Stop being a coward.
@@WOWWOW-hk1tb death is the end…
@@clintpreslar452 It's about the same argument people have about whether we have souls or not. I just say if you are convinced that you have no soul, then maybe you don't. Maybe this world does consist of something metaphorically comparable to players and NPCs 🤭
Blud thinks they're a player@@im3phirebird81
@@WOWWOW-hk1tbsays the one who is already dead, between their ears 😅
The biggest difference between the F150 full frontal and the Cybertruck full frontal is how much force is imparted on the driver. Look at how far back the Cybertruck driver's head gets pushed versus the F-150. It actually is horrifying.
Ah yes another "expert." Eye test means more than the actual force data pulled from those dummies.
@@wwjccsd Are you implying the force data is different? Tesla seems to be hiding the data, so I find that hard to believe. If Musk says it is safe I am certain it isn't.
@@wwjccsdActual force data says this POS will never he allowed on European roads
Well and that the F150 is an actual truck and the cybertruck is a suv at BEST.....
Maybe I'm being typically European, but how the hell do thousands of people manage to confuse the accelerator pedal with the brake pedal? 🤣
it is a rooky mistake.
@@MrMadmaggot Maybe I'm too harsh on those people since I'm from Germany, especially since we actually learn how to drive a car. 😅
sometimes happens to very, very experienced drivers, in Europe too. Sadly, I have seen this as part of my job in motor insurance. It usually results from a combination of being completely distracted when behind the wheel + finding yourself in a sudden stressful unfamiliar situation.
@@move2003ny Honestly, I've never witnessed such things personally. Guess it's a rather rare case after all. But since you're working for an insurance company, I bet you get to see a lot of weird accident cases within a year.
Because it seems like many americans drive with on foot on the accelerator and one foot on the brake pedal. I've never ever mistaken the pedals because my right foot is the only foot operating those pedals.
2:04 : What you can see here is (side-by-side comparison with the Lightning) that while the airbags inflate at approximately the same time the Tesla driver head hits the airbag in about half the time compared to the Lightning. This can be either due to a shorter crumple-zone or due to much faster acceleration of the driver head… or both.
Are you purposefully ignoring the fact that the airbag in the tesla extends much further, or is that happening on the subconscious level?
slow down the video text time the tesla hit the wall first and airbag fully inflates by the time the ford goes off which did hit the wall later but also the ford head hits the airbag first
which could mean a harder stop sadly for the tesla still just going off by the video
@@AtlasReburdenedare you purposefully ignoring the fact that the dummy had its neck snapped at the end? Just because it deployed doesn’t mean everyone is going to live happily ever after
@@AtlasReburdened Yup, that's another design flaw for the cybertruck. What's also interesting is why they cut the footage not allowing us to look at the rebound either which is also very important for safety... But looking at the decapitated passengers and dead driver, I don't see a reason to.
It's actually the other way around lol.
Ironically, the Cybertruck actually looks way safer and more "friendly" than most US trucks, because it's slightly more compact and the front doesn't block the driver's view as much.
From my EU / German view (who has been in the US), whats scary on US roads:
1) drivers test being a joke (compared to Germany);
2) road design and rules being absurd, almost seems like its designed to make it unsafe (4-way stops = measuring who is more stubborn, default right-on-red, weird roundabouts, suicide lanes etc) and inconsistent local road designs with page-long documents printed on signs to explain it ;
3) driver behavior (nobody keeps enough distance, people don't keep right on highways, etc.)
4) crazy vehicles, like everyone driving a truck, or even crazier: cars with spikes coming from their wheels for some godawful reason
5) pedestrian-unfriendly city design and the sheer distances involved as a result of it - and no, I don't mean the distance to drive through Texas, I mean the distance to your grocery store
but,,, muh pickup truck !! can i get a " AMEN" ?
Man, if you think America road design and rules are absurd, come & live in Taiwan for a month... just a month, see if you can take it. And we don't even need big SUV to get the chaos.
good reason for u to stay in europe
number 2...yes yes yes... what idiot thought "equal rights" intersections was a good idea??? Just designate one road has priority and problem solved. No more guessing who goes first or playing chicken
Don't forget to mention pedestrian green walk light when the cars also have a green. Ridiculously idiotic.
I remember in the 90s Jeep had a bunch of these pedal mis-applications. I think it was in the grand Cherokee. 60 minutes or something did a study and realized that Jeep had actually moved the gas pedal over so that when your leg/foot went straight ahead, it hit the gas instead of the brake. I wonder what the orientation is on those Teslas?
I seem to remember that in the eng that whole Toyota stuck accelerator pedal debacle was simply a bunch of pedal misapplications, later coupled with people getting into their heads when driving Toyotas.
This nearly kill Audi in US when they started to sell it there. Audi used EU style pedals and americans "understand" difference between brake and gas
a thing ive noticed with a lot of "influencer" types that own teslas is they dont know how cars work. theyre so used to driving a tesla that they actually forget how to use the brakes because teslas have a system that automatically makes the car come to a stop. i can imagine that this is a more common reason than it seems
@@filipcsizmar4860 yes, they solved it making a really huge brake pedal xD. i think driving a manual is better to understand what you are driving. countries with automatic cars have a lot of these pedals mistakes, they are easier to drive, and maybe an old person that lost the skill to drive a car, still is able to drive automatic. less things to do, ultil you have to brake fast
@@averagelurker1577 I doubt it, if you’ve driven a Tesla, you’ll know that you have to use the physical brakes whenever you need to stop in a situation that doesn’t give you 10 seconds of braking time. The regen brakes aren’t that strong, you’ll have to use the physical ones every once in awhile.
This guy: “MUST…. DEFEND…. CYBERTRUCK!!!”
Americans will spend a lot of money in hopes somebody will think they are special, what a way to live life
Yet BMWs, Mercedes, Ferraris and Rolls Royces ... are all made elsewhere.
@@oldrrocrevery car maker that doesn't aim for manufacturing faster, safer, cheaper tech-advanced cars with every year should be ashamed of whatever it does instead of this. All these cars are made for fragile-ego people.
You do realize that's just human behavior and has been so for all of our existence? Americans didn't invent rich people being weird and snobby.
As an EV driver, the best thing to do is when stopped, put your foot over the brake, even if not needed due to the one pedal driving.
If there’s only one pedal, how the fuck do you hit the break?🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@jacksdad23 They have the normal 2 pedals (accelerator and brake) setup but only need to use the accelerator for most driving as it deaccelerates when you take your foot off of the petal. I don't use that feature in my EV as it is less efficient.
@@jacksdad23 bruh..
by not hitting any pedals@@jacksdad23
what makes you think it is less efficient? The deacceleration is just the motor resistance turning the kinetic energy back into electricity. If you set it to roll freely, you are giving up the regeneration and are possibly being less efficient. @@youferrer
Even if cybertruck passed safety regulations in the EU (which in the current state it won't), it would require C category license which is more expensive to get and you have to be at least 21 years old. C category license together with B which you have to have before would cost around 3000 euros in my country. In addition it would require 90 km/h speed governor and couldn't use many roads.
This isn't an everybody car. The demographic this vehicle is aimed at will not find that to be a hurdle.
I like how one of the reasons that pop up headlights were removed from cars was a pedestrian hazard with their sharp corners… yet this is allowed
The thing that will kill the cybertrudk will be the insurance industry. Finding someone/anyone to repair the Stainless Steel after a minor accident will be the real question. Yeah it maybe bulletproof but good luck trying to fix that dent after.
You dont repair it.. You change the panel, and you dont even need to paint it.
I think Tesla does their own insurance, don't they? I think I heard that somewhere.
@@AndrewHadi07it sure as hell won't be cheaper than doing so
Surely if something was able bend the metal to make a dent, something should be able to bend the metal to remove a dent.
Be much more than just a bent panel that gets replaced. Subframe etc etc AND..... at what cost? The insurance companies premiums are going to go into the stratosphere. Lets also not forget that the battery will have to be VERY carefully inspected by someone who actually knows what they are looking for and the slightest crack will mean replacement and we all know how much that will cost.@@AndrewHadi07
One thing you missed is that the frontal crash test isn't just about how much the vehicle resists intrusion into the cabin (i.e. the dash crushing/pinning the driver's legs) but how much the truck absorbs the crash over time....this ends up being how much force is placed on the occupants. The dummies have sensors to measure this, and I haven't seen that data......but it looks to me like the Cybertruck stops more abruptly. Differences of milliseconds are huge in that force.
To your comment about them not running into things like that? They could have a head-on collision with a vehicle coming toward them. Forces multiply in that instance. They could also drive straight-on into the back of a fire truck or cement barrier......but of course Teslas never do that do they?
Yeah, thats one of the main issues I'm seeing here, if this thing really is that solid then when someone does crash this thing EVERYONE involved will die not just the occupants of the other vehicle, if it dissapates energy at even just half the rate of the other vehicle the shock alone would kill the passengers of the truck and the remaining energy will just flatten the other car
@@terracar2003 Which means sky-high insurance beyond normal tesla amounts because of the injury risk
@@icandreamstream . Hopefully it means they can't sell this deathtrap without a total structural redesign, notice the giant corner where the windshield meets the body of the truck? That's a MASSIVE weakpoint, meanwhile no other modern vehicle is designed with sharp corners, so it's possible that this vehicle will not only be incredibly dangerous to the occupants and other vehicles (much less bystanders), but it may not even survive a rollover or it may suddenly collapse unpredictably over certain speeds, if you ever wonder why so many safe cars seem to look the same, it's because one design is safer than the rest.