People may like to talk $*!^ about Tesla, but at least they are poorly made and can cut your fingers off. And how many cars can really say that these days?
@@Haolekine888they were and still are good cars. They only lied about the emissions. Here Tesla is lying about the range, practicality, and build quality.
"it feels like a truck" "no, no it doesn't." Thanks for the honesty man HAHA Edited edit: if you want luxury, quietness, softness, what a truck doesn't isn't.. don't get a truck... pretty simple, what you need from a truck isnt comfort... you don't buy a car to drive thru mud, off road, & work... You buy a car to drive on the road, you buy trucks for off-road... Metaphor: imagine if you will. you buy a skateboard. Then try to cruise down the road... You complain it isn't a long board, then change it. Why didn't you just get the longboard?...
To be fair.. he MIGHT mean it feels like a car and more comfortable than a truck? I am no fan of the low poly nightmare, but it not feeling like a truck may have been the closest thing to a compliment Justin actually gave it lol
Some quick points: 1. The higher the vehicle sits while moving, the more drag and less efficient it is. In this video, on what are essentially dirt roads, the truck should have been in road mode, chill setting with medium height (10 inch clearance - which will persist untill the truck reaches freeway speeds aprox 65mph at which point it will lower to about 8 inches off the ground). The other option would be baja mode, with the lowest height setting( this would allow the manual adjustment of persistent ride height on the fly, which does no happen in regular on road drive mode which is why some reviewers broke pieces when going off road at speeds higher than 25mph - around 60mph the truck lowers to about 8 inches off the ground). 2. It was cold and the auto climate will try to maintain desired temperature at all times when the vehicle is occupied or about to be occupied which means any time the truck was stopped somewhere with any of the doors open, the climate was working full blast. Kind of like letting your truck idle while you are sightseeing or chatting with friends. Climate can be turned off and this won't be an issue and save a lot of energy. 3. There was at least one option where you could have plugged into a 120V outlet overnight. That would have given you 1,800 watts per hour. Say you plugged in at 6pm and unplugged before leaving at 7am next morning, that would have been 13 hours, but lets assume 12 hours. 12h X 1,800 watts=21,600 watts or approximately 17.5% charge. 3. The gas vehicles had to send out one vehicle(after using emergency spare fuel) to come back with fuel for the rest of the vehicles to continue the trip. The same could have been done for the cybertruck in two ways. First option would have been to take along a 4-5Kwh inverter generator which would have provided 40-50kwh charge, which is about 30-40%charge for every 10 hours(most likely you guys camped for more than 10 hours). You would also need about 20 gal gas which will give you about 166kwh (one complete 0 to 100% charge plus 1/3). Second option and the preferred one since you were mostly on well graded and even paved roads, would be to only bring about 20-30gal of gas. You would use this gas to refil one of the other gas trucks after it strap pulled you, while the cybertruck was in drive and you first got it past about 5 mph then took your foot off the accelerator pedal and let the regen work, for about an hour at approximately 50mph (less time at higher speeds). This would regen more or less depending on speed. This option is more efficient than the generator. For fun and more complicated setup. Put a 30kwh diesel generator in the truck bed. Add transformer to 800V and suitably sized rectifier to it and conect a cable with the nacs connector, and now you have a portable 30kWh DC fast charger.
Great video!! Beautiful views! Last EV pointer: If you’re planning a trip where superchargers aren’t readily available, like this one, make sure to carry a mobile charger with the all-adapters pack. This setup allows you to charge from any outlet, including those at campgrounds with utilities, in case you run into trouble.
Attempt to save 5 watts of energy putting the display on dark mode while you draw literally 10s of thousands of watts through the drive train is hilarious to me
@@charlesadams7862 The tires are for grip not clearance. The truck has a foot and a half clearance stock in offroad mode which is about as high as you get without a purpose built hillclimb vehicle. And you probably don't need a skidplate since the bottom is a big smooth sheet of metal already. It isn't like there are moving parts down there to bash off. It depends how pointy the rocks are i suppose.
Honestly that's what makes this a real test. Like in real life people are gonna come across closed roads, closed gas station, situations where mph or watts per mile lol are poor. So yeah this was actually a great real world test.
@@Nunya-lz9ey Elaborate on what made this video fake? Literally anyone who has ever talked about the cyber truck complains about the poor mileage. It's a steaming pile of trash in the elements that tesla claimed it would dominate. It's a rich city folks "truck" and that's all it'll ever be.
-< My 1973 Ford is 51 years old and still going. It's been to the top of so many mountains. I've owned it for 39 years, drove it to work for my entire career as an electrician. I doubt you will be seeing any 50 yr old Cyber Trucks in 2075. I'll stick to my Ford.
you hiks are similar to the cycle nuts when the first car was made . "look how reliable the cycle is " " theyre aint no place to drive these cars , ill take my cycle""cycling more fun , keeps you healthy f a car " . you sound the same but in the 21st century . these cars are new technology not even 20 years old . give them some time . educate yourself and adapt, we are in the 21st century
@@sali1023Even when EVs are fully developed, most viewers here would still pick the gas guzzlers over the soulless, characterless greenmobiles that are the EVs. We won't adapt. We know we are being old schooled and antique, but we'll always loud and proud of it.
@@sali1023at the end of the day, the batteries are the main problem. Even is this pos is made from rustable steel. You know this. Your phone eventually won't hold a charge and it really doesn't take long in the grand scheme of things for that to happen. And to replace a whole battery bank in an Ev costs more than an engine swap, so no, you won't be seeing a 50 year old Ev on the road.
@@bewing77The cybertruck weighs less than the Ford F-150 lightning. It surprisingly extremely lightweight. The whole point of having the sheet metal exterior flat like that is to use lightweight sheet metal
the offroad challenge was the part they wanted to do in the later part of the video (but they didnt make it there) driving to the mining town was overlanding as they also mentioned in the video
You drive like my Grandma. But she was much cooler in her 68 Mustang. You should keep the fanboy Ford Bronco. It is 2024 and people are still talking about Electric Vehicles? We all know it will run out of juice with no charging station nearby. It might catch fire. It will be recalled.🐔🐰😫
Deboss Garage describes "range anxiety" very accurately. You're always looking at battery% and miles. Trying to calculate it in your head. And the consumption varies on terrain, road grade, weather temp, vehicle weight, etc.
I agree, i loved my model y however i do go into the mountains nearly every weekend and have run into scenarios where I simply couldnt reach parts of our national parks. After 2 years Ive sold it and gone to a Rav4 hybrid and i truly do not miss charging. /If/Once ranges are truly ~500 miles, the id gladly go back to full EV.
Which is why experienced EV drivers don't get range anxiety - they just trust the car, and it gets them places. If you're constantly worried about range, then you're doing it wrong.
which is so stupid. does anyone do that with a gas car? guess what, your gas car uses more power going up a mountain too. it's probably 500kg lighter (or more) so that makes a difference, but no one is staring at the MPG reading on their audi cluster all day. Oh, you used 1/3rd of your fuel driving at 80mph for 2 hours? You mean, just like pretty much every internal combustion car on the road today? CrAzYyyYyY!!!! Not gonna lie I hate the cybertruck. But dude, that 30 year old landcruiser, gets 13mpg. It's 25gallon gas tank is good for 350 miles. So going 160 miles, that's more than 1/3rd of the fuel capacity! Thing is, you can't just strap extra gas tanks on your tesla. And you sure as shit can't find charging in the same places you can find gasoline.
Fun Fact: If you're trying to hyper optimize an EV, standard cruise is often more efficient than manual driving. Adaptive cruise uses additional sensors for safety and is still more efficient for highways with any traffic, standard cruise only maintains speed with optimal efficiency. I've been able to greatly extend the range of many models of EVs using this. Even with -20 degree fahrenheit weather I've only had climate controls use 3-5% average with heated seats, steering wheel, and all comfort options on.
Larger tires roll more easily over obstacles and "raise" the effective "gear ratio" so fewer engine - or motor - revolutions are required per mile. They're also not automatically heavier than smaller wheels/tires. Particularly if the wheel diameter "grows" and the tire sidewall "shrinks" relative to overall tire diameter.
You "gained range" because "range" was recalculated when you were stationary. Batteries always "recharge" slightly when load is removed because reduced current flow means reduced heat and reduced internal resistance. Which is present in ALL batteries and must be "overcome" before any useful battery output is "created".
Talked to a guy at the grocery store about his Cybertruck. You could see the buyer's regret on his face as he described his experience thus far. This dude was not enthusiastic about any aspect of the truck's performance. The best thing he had to say was that it hadn't rusted yet.
one of ~3800 other losers.... I think this "truck" is mostly a lack-of-personality-compensator for weird nerds alienated from society from their silicon valley RSU/stock bonus millions
@@mantrachhaya6835I mean sort of. Supposedly wasn't even them that changed whatever it was that added soap that causes the pad to dislodge, and it's only happened on two vehicles. Probably could fix it yourself in like two seconds. But Tesla prob would rather be safe than sorry considering they're making ungodly amounts of sales either way (for what the car is and production numbers at least)
@@TheAnnoyingBoss no shit, 10 drag races and Cybertruck will lose all of it's energy, and 30yr old Toyota will continue to drag race for another bunch of hours XD
It was pretty ironic seeing "Invincible" on the side of the 'hype-r-truck' when it had to turn around before getting to Death Valley. And that was hardly real off-road conditions. Those were basically any rural gravel road in many parts of the US. 🤣
This is such a well produced video. Kudos to everyone in it, the production quality and editing. Such a fun video to watch and informative! Keep it up!
my boys really drove on some dirt roads and called it "offroading" 😂😂😂 I guess I offroad my civic everyday whenever I drive on the dirt road to my house 😂
i guess they didn't wanna risk it cuz it's not actually their cybertruck, plus you saw how bad the range was just on a dirt road, imagine actually going offroading, their range would be half of what it was in the vid
50 50 chance it was in the script. Let's start by driving 80+ MPH to drain the battery.... Then we can't continue the trip. Top gear did this when they had the original Tesla roadster. In their case it was a fake break down. Don't believe everything you see on UA-cam. These guys are here to make money. Shite needs to happen.,
As soon as I saw on the map they were going from LA out to Cerro Gordo, then across death valley I knew the exact shenanigan's that would happen. And then they got a Cybertruck already modified with inefficient tires and who knows what else.
@@nobeliefisok9174 enjoy your delusion and continue to defend the truck mate. Fact of the matter is, the modifications wouldn't have materially changed the outcome, and the 80 mph was at the start of the video, on a completely different day. On the final day, he was going as efficiently as possible. But if you need to turn off pretty much all useful creature comforts and still have massive issues with range, then what is the point of this vehicle?
@@danharold3087 thats a good argument against the truck. and yeah, but this isnt just donut on youtube, this is literally every truck owner. whos been explicitly happy with the cybertrucks range?
@@litetaker What is wrong with you? Panties in a wad or something? How on earth did you construe my comment to be "defending" the Cybertruck? And how do think that changing tires from 33" high efficiency tires to 35" off road capable tires would not materially change the range of the Cybertruck? Delusional often? You attack me for no reason, and do not even understand basic concepts. Reread what I posted then think about all the videos from Donut. They are videos of shenanigan's that the team gets up to, and I was predicting what those would be in this video. I was right. You, not normal people but you specifically interpreted my saying "shenanigan's" as the video was trying to deceive the audience when in fact the word is used correctly by me with the other meaning of the word... mischievous activity. You need to quit trying so hard to be a Tesla Troll, where you assume everyone not trolling Teslas must be delusional Tesla fanbois. Most people are neither, like me. Think before you post!
I have a few questions that weren't answered. One is, they appeared to have electricity at the ghost town. Could you not have used a regular 120V charger overnight to regain some range? Also, you are driving up into the mountains. Do you really need to conserve 50% power for the return trip? you'll regenerate a lot on the way back down. Also, those tires are going to reduce the range, just like large tires will reduce fuel economy on a gas car. It isn't fair to expect it to get factory range numbers after these modifications anymore than you'd expect a gas car to get factory fuel economy with large tires.
It takes 80 - 100 hours to charge a Cybertruck from a 120 volt outlet, so I guess you could do it, if the other 5 trucks and guys want to spend 3 days watching the CyberPaperweight charge slowly tick up...
Fair points, but they didn't harp on the range being below advertised as being something they were mad about anyhow, as it wasn't the point of the video. Plus to be fair, a stock Cybertruck evidently can't offroad quite as well as Elon says it can lmao. With that said, I think it's a pretty cool truck, with a lot of (fairly understandable) drawbacks and some (highly typical for Tesla) recalls and issues in the first production units. Yet people seem to only be allowed to have two opinions on it: Either it's literally the worst thing ever made or it's literal perfection with zero flaws.
@@sprinkle61 Would charge about 4-6 times as fast on 240V though (depending on 30A or 50A circuit), and 240V is most likely available since nearly all 120V generators operate at 240V split phase and give you two 120V circuits. With that said, it's probably something they'd need to plan ahead of time to wire up, I doubt anyone onsite has thought of EV charging as a design consideration for the circuit wiring and you'll need some heavy duty cables that can carry the current of that circuit without overheating. But if all that was worked out, 80 hours / double the voltage / 3 times the current = ~13 hours of charging, not bad.
regen working much worse than you expect. It's not like "disabling fuel injection during downhill", it's about "reduce speed to about 0 to regenerate energy back". Very bad, imo. The only working solution to reduce power consumption IS THE SAME for a gas car: Remove your foot off the gas and push it gently. And this is awful. Chinese hybrid car solved the issue while Elon Musk saying "energy efficient vehicles is all about Tesla", and you just can't make it low-powered lol
I wish they would bring back the progress bar at the bottom of their in video commercials like they used to do. It made it so much easier to skip through the commercial lol.
@@superdooper6969 what do u mean? It's easier to skip when the bar is at the bottom. And Walmart who said anything about Walmart?? I'm talking about the adds that the creators make during the videos.
What surprised me is the loose accelerator pedal cover recall gave the specific number of 3,878 total units delivered so far in about six months. That is way short of the initial 125K and later 250K units per year Tesla said it would produce. There must be some fairly serious impediments to volume production. Despite the low numbers delivered, owner blogs have a lot of complaining about quality control issues. The four years of resources Tesla spent on the Cybertruck probably would have been better put toward developing a less feature-rich entry level car which could have been sold globally. There are a lot of neat innovations in the Cybertruck and it does deliver top notch performance within limits of the battery capacity. Tesla is kind of stuck with the Cybertruck now, and they don’t have the entry level car that investors have been hoping for. It is a little late to be getting into the global entry level market now because BYD and other Chinese makers already have a large presence and the mind share granted by being there first.
I’ll tell you something great about Lone Pine, CA. I rode from Woodland Hills, CA to Lone Pine on Father’s day 3 years ago. Death Valley, which runs parallel to Hwy 395 (the Hwy the guys are on) hit 136 degrees. Painful is an extreme understatement as motorbikes don’t have AC. I got the first hotel on the left around 4:00 pm, cooled down and passed out for the night. When I got up I had NO KEYS!!! After panicking for about 10 minutes, I went out to my bike, that was parked right on the road, and found my keys in the trunk of my bike, when’re they had been since 4:00 pm the previous day. When in he led out the manger asked if I found my keys because he saw them in my bike the night before. What a wonderful little town. EDITED for grammatical errors.
they shouldnt be especially for a regenerative braking vehicle because they can recover all that inertia. my 2000 ranger is torsion key leveled on 31s with 200lbs of winch on the front, and its getting 20mpg mix which is the best that could ever be expected of a stock one. so theyre not helping, but to blame them entirely wouldnt be the right move
@@bernardhossmoto it doesnt have gearing. no matter what size tires you have on it, the car is gonna adjust for that by simply spinning the motor more slowly and with higher torque
@@jackradzelovage6961 I have an electric enduro bike with 15kW, the gearing DOES matter a lot. A lower gearing puts less stress on the battery. EDIT: It is not a gearing as in a gear box, it is the final drive ratio that matters.
@@bernardhossmoto thats probably because your motor is more efficient at higher speeds, so leaving it in a lower gear for longer nets you less consumption. i have no idea how tesla motors dyno or how wide their efficiency range is, ie di the bigger wheels actually drop it that far out of the efficient speed range? this becomes specific hardware dependent very quickly.
I have a feeling a lot of these are going to be found abandoned in the deserts of the Middle East. Plus the range combined with the weight of these will probably make a lot of them unrecoverable
@@alexeikotov7769 LOL ya I guess Utah will be ok, though he might need some heavier equipment. I’d be more terrified of them catching fire while I was recovering one though, especially a crashed or high centred one
@@NithinJune yes some are abandoned for that reason, but some people (especially ones with a lot of money) will leave a car just because it ran out of gas
I managed a trip like this before, it was a 2 person, week-long mountaineering/camping trip, driving over terrain like this to get to the hills *In an MX5* With nothing more than some half decent all-weather tires and a boot rack So well done cybertruck, you've proved to have the off-roading capabilities of a low end MX5 (except I could carry extra fuel)
This video doesent show any hardcore off roading but watch some other videos of the Cybertruck actually going off roading and it's definitely better than this video makes it look.
@@thomasadamian i think I have seen just about every off road demonstration of the cyber truck to date and the videos all prove that a 95 Honda civic can go more places than the cyber truck could ever dream. It's a scam get over it
watching you guys stop in Lone Pine and see the ghost town brought back so many memories of me spending summers with my grandmother and the trip up to the ghost town on motorcycles with my grandfather. when we were up there years ago they told us they were trying to make it a tourist destination. Was so cool to see their progress, thanks!
If anyone is curious, ~3800 trucks were recalled because if you stomped on the gas hard enough to break the grip off the top of the pedal, it was possible to wedge the grip into the front of the footwell in a way that wedged the throttle on. So far it caused no issues, but it could potentially be dangerous.
Perfect timing for this video, today there was a recall on 3900 cybertrucks due to a faulty accelerator pedal. Take a wild guess at how many are on the road currently...
I'd like to see gas generator, fuel cell, using regular charge plugs that fit 120v wall-power and 240v drier and cooking-oven outlets... If there is a multi-day parking period involved maybe try using solar to avoid battery drain while parked. Deep country in an ev I feel is possible but requires different preparation for combating range anxiety with whatever resources are available and with careful planning.
I think Stellantis is making exactly what you’re describing, the new Ramcharger has a gas generator and 690 miles of combined range. I’m not sure if it will support outlet charging or not but I do think it will be the most successful “ev” truck when it comes out.
"We're going off road now" "But then, the unexpected, a road closure" Yeah, that IS unexpected. 13:22 It gets better: "The infrastructure to support off road". These writers definitely had fun with this video. 😂
Cerro Gordo Mines has an elevation of 8800 feet. Furnace Creek - where 4 destination chargers are, has an elevation of 190 feet BELOW sea level. Why couldn’t you make?
hi Donut, great video and really enjoyed seeing a roadtrip video with the cybertruck. justin is one of them people who seems really geniune, comes across very humble and a gentle giant. Kudo's to donut anaother great vid :-) Peace out from Daz and my dog Max in the uk.
7:13 I could feel the anxiety of range !? Never thought I would. Haven't bought it but that would be new headache I don't want. Plus can't carry extra range either
Yeah shit the old hotel burned down after 100+ years, just when this guy arrived and started messing around. Yeah well now he needs donations from us to rebuild it so he can make money from it. Yes the old hotel was not up to code anymore and a risk to visistors, but it's really just a shame this historic building burned to the ground. But hey give this millionaire your hard earned money so he can 'rebuild' and is actually allowed to have people stay there. What a weird coincidence.
They tried to stretch it as far it would go. I like how they prove it can definitely do camping on the first stop, but then show the limits later. Try again with the range extender pack later! Might be interesting to see this attempted again. Could also try the Silverado EV or Rivian Max Pack. They have a little bit more range.
Another thing to consider is driving technique. I have a humble Chevy bolt and I can get close to 6 miles per kwh with one pedal driving and minimal climate controls. I can typically make a drive down to San Diego (122 mi) from LA using only 75-80 miles of range. Took me awhile to get used to driving exclusively one pedal tho.
Your typical hardware store generator makes 3-5 kilowatts of electrical power. In the 3 hours it takes the Cybertruck to drain its 123 kWh battery, the 5kW generator would have added only 15kWh of charge which is just 12%. To charge the vehicle completely assuming 100% charging efficiency, it would take 24 hours.
This was a dope episode i was cracking up. Everyone was on point the camera crew catching reactions, editors with the zoom ins and the guests man this was golden.😂
Another thing that needs to be accounted for is that the increase in suspension height and much larger tires will definitely eat up battery efficiency.
Everythings eats up mileage, this is how Cybertruck works, you just can't use it with lowest possible wattage, like the iPhones, it can't let you disable tracking, for real
Hats off to you guys for taking an EV truck to Death Valley. I was planning a trip to Death Valley in my Toyota Rav4 Prime and and I was looking for places to charge and I was like man what a nightmare. I just said forget charging. I think a PHEV is PERFECT for Death Valley. The Rav4 can pretty much go anywhere in Death Valley if you are brave enough it has 500+ mile range so you don't have to get range anxiety. Even when I ride my motorcycle through death valley I get range anxiety. I'm jealous you guys went to Cerro Gordo, when I was riding my motorcycle up the back end in Saline Valle of it which is extremely steep and rocky I ran into snow and ice. When I ran into enough of it I decided to turn around. I didn't know it was much easier on the other side. So what the Cybertruck fun to drive off road? Was it comfy on those bumpy rocky roads? I know the rav4 I had to air down it was so bumpy on those small SUV tires.
I’m glad this episode was geared towards the experience with the cyber truck, rather than a review of the cyber truck. Not biased. It lets the viewers decide their own opinions.
@@ChenteCasanova Tesla’s range testing is optimized to almost perfect conditions (temperature , flat roads, 65mph or less etc.). It’s unrealistic as a fairly cold/rainy day or bit of uphill driving already falls out of that optimal realm. In my own personal experience, we’ve never gotten more than 255-265 miles out of our 2 Teslas (Model 3 LR and Model Y LR), rated at 322 and 330 miles respectively. Great vehicles, but they have to fit your lifestyle or vice versa.
For range, the Honda prelude would have way outlasted every vehicle there by a lot. And not made more than a few feet once they went offroad. Those landcruisers original spec before modifications for off road only got 275 miles range. Your prelude was around 375. With the mods they did, they are probably closer to 230-240 miles range. The tesla with the modified tires was somewhat less.
I can't be the only one whose blood pressure went up when they turned the flashing light show on the first night... if a slightly bumpy dirt road chewed through double the battery charge, I was fully expecting the next part of the video to be waking up the next morning to find they'd just made themselves a Cybertruck-shaped paperweight!
Those 35"s are probably the biggest draw on battery life - the standard one comes on 31's I think, and they're specially built for the truck, low rolling resistance, etc.
low rolling resistance = low traction. thats not acceptable for off roading (obviously), and if they need to be changed out for normal tires before off roading then thats definitely a mark agaisnt the truck
@@jackradzelovage6961 That's why so many were getting stuck in just a bit of snow, the tires are not up to anything like that. Scary to think of something this heavy, this fast with no real grip.
I am generally a Japanese car guy, but that Silverado EV is brilliant. 400+ mile range and I just love how the back window and wall disassemble to create a 10' bed. Well done Chevy!
As an EV owner, I can say that that battery drain is pathetic. Not only is the design a sin against artistry, but a 76% drain on battery after an hour? I couldn't drain my battery that fast in winter, even if I tried.
Yeah that upcoming battery extender for the Cybertruck is an absolute MUST if you wanna go on trips like this. Just like bringing a jerry can, if you wanna go on a long distance off-road trip like that, youve got to have a way to extend your range. I wonder if one day itll be more common for there to be solar powered chargers installed on off-road trails...? Also, Battery capacity and charging speed has doubled in the last 10-ish years (hence why EVs are only a thing now) and is supposed to do the same in the next 10, so I wonder where we'll be then. Also, super lame that the Cybertruck didn't launch with the ext battery and solar bed cover
@@paul5683 There are already charging stations out there that are solar with a battery backup. Would be more than enough. The cost of transporting diesel to the middle of nowhere would cost so much that nobody would want to use the charging station. It'd end up costing 2x or more of gas. Keeping it solar means near zero upkeep costs, so the cost to charge would actually likely match or beat typical charging stations.
14:51 why they haven't fitted solar ? It would have help customer for that crucial few miles to next charging station. Solar panel would easily fit in that glass above body
Also, the reason you got charge back. You started conserving energy. basically it predicts off of usage. So going 80mph vs 65 will be different. say 40% & 80% if that makes senes.
I fucking LOVE when two completely disassociatedd UA-cam accounts that I’ve been watching for years have a completely out of the blue cross over 😂😂 amazinggggg
@@Fyre0 ohw wow did not know that. Seems odd to first use paper, because printing a plate is like a 5-10 minute job. At least that was the case when i bought new ones.
@@angeloverton7063 It's temporary, straight from the dealership/store. They're to be replaced by the actual plates from the department of motor vehicles after registration. Usually no more than a couple weeks.
I know it helps with the storytelling, but the decent from wild Rose pass down to stovepipe Wells is crazy, so all that downhill helped the Regen when you guys stopped for gas. We just drove up that way to panamint in my 20 year old Toyota and yeah that pass is brutal with 35"s and 4.88 gears
It may be undependable and handle horribly, but at least it looks stupid.
People may like to talk $*!^ about Tesla, but at least they are poorly made and can cut your fingers off. And how many cars can really say that these days?
You guys are cracking me up. 😂😂😂
Hey shut up it doesn't look stupid, it looks fucking dumb
Does anyone remember the Volkswagen "thing". The cyber truck is the 21st century equivalent and will age just as gracefully.
@@Haolekine888they were and still are good cars. They only lied about the emissions. Here Tesla is lying about the range, practicality, and build quality.
"it feels like a truck"
"no, no it doesn't."
Thanks for the honesty man HAHA
Edited edit: if you want luxury, quietness, softness, what a truck doesn't isn't.. don't get a truck... pretty simple, what you need from a truck isnt comfort... you don't buy a car to drive thru mud, off road, & work... You buy a car to drive on the road, you buy trucks for off-road...
Metaphor: imagine if you will. you buy a skateboard. Then try to cruise down the road... You complain it isn't a long board, then change it. Why didn't you just get the longboard?...
To be fair.. he MIGHT mean it feels like a car and more comfortable than a truck? I am no fan of the low poly nightmare, but it not feeling like a truck may have been the closest thing to a compliment Justin actually gave it lol
What does "feel like a truck" even mean?
I dunno but compared to the higher trims like the King Ranch or even Lariat F-150, the interior is not very luxurious from my experience.
@@ohwhoaitzjoe No question. I have been in some trucks that are so nice I felt like I should take my shoes off at the door.
He meant because of the 4 wheel steering at lower speeds, it turns the same as a model S so of course it doesn't feel like a truck because of that 😂
Some quick points:
1. The higher the vehicle sits while moving, the more drag and less efficient it is. In this video, on what are essentially dirt roads, the truck should have been in road mode, chill setting with medium height (10 inch clearance - which will persist untill the truck reaches freeway speeds aprox 65mph at which point it will lower to about 8 inches off the ground). The other option would be baja mode, with the lowest height setting( this would allow the manual adjustment of persistent ride height on the fly, which does no happen in regular on road drive mode which is why some reviewers broke pieces when going off road at speeds higher than 25mph - around 60mph the truck lowers to about 8 inches off the ground).
2. It was cold and the auto climate will try to maintain desired temperature at all times when the vehicle is occupied or about to be occupied which means any time the truck was stopped somewhere with any of the doors open, the climate was working full blast. Kind of like letting your truck idle while you are sightseeing or chatting with friends. Climate can be turned off and this won't be an issue and save a lot of energy.
3. There was at least one option where you could have plugged into a 120V outlet overnight. That would have given you 1,800 watts per hour. Say you plugged in at 6pm and unplugged before leaving at 7am next morning, that would have been 13 hours, but lets assume 12 hours. 12h X 1,800 watts=21,600 watts or approximately 17.5% charge.
3. The gas vehicles had to send out one vehicle(after using emergency spare fuel) to come back with fuel for the rest of the vehicles to continue the trip. The same could have been done for the cybertruck in two ways.
First option would have been to take along a 4-5Kwh inverter generator which would have provided 40-50kwh charge, which is about 30-40%charge for every 10 hours(most likely you guys camped for more than 10 hours). You would also need about 20 gal gas which will give you about 166kwh (one complete 0 to 100% charge plus 1/3).
Second option and the preferred one since you were mostly on well graded and even paved roads, would be to only bring about 20-30gal of gas. You would use this gas to refil one of the other gas trucks after it strap pulled you, while the cybertruck was in drive and you first got it past about 5 mph then took your foot off the accelerator pedal and let the regen work, for about an hour at approximately 50mph (less time at higher speeds). This would regen more or less depending on speed. This option is more efficient than the generator.
For fun and more complicated setup. Put a 30kwh diesel generator in the truck bed. Add transformer to 800V and suitably sized rectifier to it and conect a cable with the nacs connector, and now you have a portable 30kWh DC fast charger.
Great video!! Beautiful views! Last EV pointer: If you’re planning a trip where superchargers aren’t readily available, like this one, make sure to carry a mobile charger with the all-adapters pack. This setup allows you to charge from any outlet, including those at campgrounds with utilities, in case you run into trouble.
Attempt to save 5 watts of energy putting the display on dark mode while you draw literally 10s of thousands of watts through the drive train is hilarious to me
Those 35” bead-locks are draining the battery faster than anything else on the vehicle…
@@alfwatt Ground clearance or a good skid plate are very much wanted for offroad, and just think it didn't even have a winch.
@@charlesadams7862 The tires are for grip not clearance. The truck has a foot and a half clearance stock in offroad mode which is about as high as you get without a purpose built hillclimb vehicle. And you probably don't need a skidplate since the bottom is a big smooth sheet of metal already. It isn't like there are moving parts down there to bash off. It depends how pointy the rocks are i suppose.
Too much like my phone….and I already have one of those🙄
Its like getting led headlights to safe gas
I'm so confused there was no off-road in this video just driving on a dirt road😂
Imagine you making this video. What is the goal. What does it take to get views.
I'm pretty sure that's the joke.
Ford Model T saw worse roads
That was a risk for them enough
That's off-road to the CT
"Our route was too ambitious."
The route my unmodified VW Beetle could make...
Honestly that's what makes this a real test.
Like in real life people are gonna come across closed roads, closed gas station, situations where mph or watts per mile lol are poor. So yeah this was actually a great real world test.
And a route plenty of Tesla owners have already done. This video was fake af
@@Nunya-lz9ey Elaborate on what made this video fake? Literally anyone who has ever talked about the cyber truck complains about the poor mileage. It's a steaming pile of trash in the elements that tesla claimed it would dominate. It's a rich city folks "truck" and that's all it'll ever be.
@@jonathankuneli3463 That musk car was MODIFIED for off road and STILL lost...
Talking about garbage.
I live down miles of dirt road that look worse than this.
I daily an old Corolla.
-< My 1973 Ford is 51 years old and still going. It's been to the top of so many mountains. I've owned it for 39 years, drove it to work for my entire career as an electrician. I doubt you will be seeing any 50 yr old Cyber Trucks in 2075. I'll stick to my Ford.
you hiks are similar to the cycle nuts when the first car was made . "look how reliable the cycle is " " theyre aint no place to drive these cars , ill take my cycle""cycling more fun , keeps you healthy f a car " . you sound the same but in the 21st century . these cars are new technology not even 20 years old . give them some time . educate yourself and adapt, we are in the 21st century
@@sali1023Even when EVs are fully developed, most viewers here would still pick the gas guzzlers over the soulless, characterless greenmobiles that are the EVs. We won't adapt. We know we are being old schooled and antique, but we'll always loud and proud of it.
@@sali1023at the end of the day, the batteries are the main problem. Even is this pos is made from rustable steel. You know this. Your phone eventually won't hold a charge and it really doesn't take long in the grand scheme of things for that to happen. And to replace a whole battery bank in an Ev costs more than an engine swap, so no, you won't be seeing a 50 year old Ev on the road.
@@sali1023 Name calling?
@@KitKitChanIsaac then why you even riding a car at all ?? Be old school and ride a bicycle or better yet a horse , rednecks smh
10:40 😂🤣😂 The car Hauler in the shot is a nice touch. Great to see you have such high hopes for the Cybertruck. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I literally paused the video at that exact timeframe to look for a comment exactly like this. 🤣
I doubt I’d want to haul a Cybertruck on a trailer though given the weight
@@bewing77The cybertruck weighs less than the Ford F-150 lightning. It surprisingly extremely lightweight.
The whole point of having the sheet metal exterior flat like that is to use lightweight sheet metal
You know that's probably the way to do it. Haul the truck to the off-road course, have fun and haul it back,
@@pilotavery It weighs nearly 7,000 pounds with people in it. A jumbo jet is lightweight compared to a cruise ship but it's still a heavy thing.
7:46 "Offroad challenge" - Sees a couple sedans there...
Tesla's even
A model Y lol
the offroad challenge was the part they wanted to do in the later part of the video (but they didnt make it there) driving to the mining town was overlanding as they also mentioned in the video
@@karlmarx9255overland or down a road. 😂
They are Tesla model Y’s😢
Everyone saying the Truck is stupid:
"Well maybe it IS stupid, but it's also dumb"
- Patrick Star
You drive like my Grandma. But she was much cooler in her 68 Mustang.
You should keep the fanboy Ford Bronco.
It is 2024 and people are still talking about Electric Vehicles?
We all know it will run out of juice with no charging station nearby. It might catch fire. It will be recalled.🐔🐰😫
"You mean you can't keep up with two 30 year old Toyotas?" Lol
I'm so glad Justin is part of Donut. What a wonderful person.
Shut up dude. They all suck
Deboss Garage describes "range anxiety" very accurately. You're always looking at battery% and miles. Trying to calculate it in your head. And the consumption varies on terrain, road grade, weather temp, vehicle weight, etc.
I agree, i loved my model y however i do go into the mountains nearly every weekend and have run into scenarios where I simply couldnt reach parts of our national parks. After 2 years Ive sold it and gone to a Rav4 hybrid and i truly do not miss charging. /If/Once ranges are truly ~500 miles, the id gladly go back to full EV.
It's like walking on the moon with one tank of air - you know you're going to run out - it's only a matter of when - then you're dead.
Which is why experienced EV drivers don't get range anxiety - they just trust the car, and it gets them places. If you're constantly worried about range, then you're doing it wrong.
@@wojciechmuras553 range anxiety sure, but range annoyance in the winter in the mountains when you can barely break 200 miles is very real lol
which is so stupid. does anyone do that with a gas car? guess what, your gas car uses more power going up a mountain too. it's probably 500kg lighter (or more) so that makes a difference, but no one is staring at the MPG reading on their audi cluster all day. Oh, you used 1/3rd of your fuel driving at 80mph for 2 hours? You mean, just like pretty much every internal combustion car on the road today? CrAzYyyYyY!!!! Not gonna lie I hate the cybertruck. But dude, that 30 year old landcruiser, gets 13mpg. It's 25gallon gas tank is good for 350 miles. So going 160 miles, that's more than 1/3rd of the fuel capacity!
Thing is, you can't just strap extra gas tanks on your tesla. And you sure as shit can't find charging in the same places you can find gasoline.
Justin has been quite the gem of a host . Glad he is onboard the donut train !
Fun Fact: If you're trying to hyper optimize an EV, standard cruise is often more efficient than manual driving. Adaptive cruise uses additional sensors for safety and is still more efficient for highways with any traffic, standard cruise only maintains speed with optimal efficiency. I've been able to greatly extend the range of many models of EVs using this. Even with -20 degree fahrenheit weather I've only had climate controls use 3-5% average with heated seats, steering wheel, and all comfort options on.
Why did you start off with fun? then continue to bore the shit out of me
@@Tomberculosis-q1i it may be sad though the older you get, the more fun these facts become.
Props to the people who actually filmed this. There really are a lot of really nice shots.
(granted the scenery itself is gorgeous)
too bad the audio peeps have never heard of a high pass filter
This cyber truck is just a showpiece at this point, just to go out on the weekend on a Sunday to go have breakfast and go shopping and that’s it
Ha better not go to far on the weekend
That's all it ever was
There's nothing wrong with being a quiet quirky truck pulling up to the park on a Sunday afternoon
@@Derekzpartyit is. It’s just stupid american culture of big trucks, what you actually don’t need, and can do all that in typical sedan.
It's almost as bad as the Ford F-150 lightning to be honest...
this video aged like a fine wine, over the course of exactly one day!
And the cybertruck aged like milk over the same time period ! 😅
Did they account for the range loss by larger and higher rolling resistance tires?
Of course not. these are the same guys that thought putting the car's screen in dark mode would save battery...
It's a joke obviously @@Quinn_______
Larger tires roll more easily over obstacles and "raise" the effective "gear ratio" so fewer engine - or motor - revolutions are required per mile. They're also not automatically heavier than smaller wheels/tires. Particularly if the wheel diameter "grows" and the tire sidewall "shrinks" relative to overall tire diameter.
You "gained range" because "range" was recalculated when you were stationary. Batteries always "recharge" slightly when load is removed because reduced current flow means reduced heat and reduced internal resistance. Which is present in ALL batteries and must be "overcome" before any useful battery output is "created".
@@deeremeyer1749 What are you talking about?
Talked to a guy at the grocery store about his Cybertruck. You could see the buyer's regret on his face as he described his experience thus far. This dude was not enthusiastic about any aspect of the truck's performance. The best thing he had to say was that it hadn't rusted yet.
Lol
r/thathappened
Yet.
one of ~3800 other losers.... I think this "truck" is mostly a lack-of-personality-compensator for weird nerds alienated from society from their silicon valley RSU/stock bonus millions
If he had major buyers remorse he could easily sell it for close to what he paid for it.
This Video coming out the same day they all got recalled is hilarious
Also for a serious reason
that recall is already fixed and it was like a tiny piece of trim that nobody actually had a problem with. save your propoganda mr ccp
Apparently only 3800 vehicles on a weird issue only reported a month ago which is crazy. Better than some US car companies as far as response time lol
@@mantrachhaya6835 serious, lets talk about all of the serious ICE recalls every year. not like we have had 100 years to figure those out. oh wait
@@mantrachhaya6835I mean sort of. Supposedly wasn't even them that changed whatever it was that added soap that causes the pad to dislodge, and it's only happened on two vehicles. Probably could fix it yourself in like two seconds. But Tesla prob would rather be safe than sorry considering they're making ungodly amounts of sales either way (for what the car is and production numbers at least)
I loved the “your truck can’t keep up with a 30 year old Toyota” comment.
Except at the drag strip. Which isnt really a daily driving lmao
@@TheAnnoyingBosswho’s gonna drag strip on a 30 year old Toyota?
@@PotentialGrim mk4 Toyota supra lol
@@TheAnnoyingBoss no shit, 10 drag races and Cybertruck will lose all of it's energy, and 30yr old Toyota will continue to drag race for another bunch of hours XD
@5:01 "With Zack, again, impressed by the CyberTruck" took me out, lol!
So is there a part 2 coming where y'all actually went off a road?
Probably a part 2 where they’re getting towed to the nearest charging station.
Probably when they get two of those extra range batteries for the bed, and put all their stuff in the Camera Truck...
@@sprinkle61 another cybertruck to recharge cybertruck lol
14:29
Justin coming out of that tent like a bear out of a cage made me inhale my drink 😂 great video!
Poor Joe with that hot coffee though!
@@maxmike181 Wait, GTA: SA-style Hot Coffee? 😮
It was pretty ironic seeing "Invincible" on the side of the 'hype-r-truck' when it had to turn around before getting to Death Valley. And that was hardly real off-road conditions. Those were basically any rural gravel road in many parts of the US. 🤣
Which is accessible to any vehicle.
The road conditions were never the issue.
Funny that you can't test the off road capabilities because you can't drive far enough from a charger.
Any rusted out Subaru would have beaten it.
Vincible
This is such a well produced video. Kudos to everyone in it, the production quality and editing.
Such a fun video to watch and informative! Keep it up!
my boys really drove on some dirt roads and called it "offroading" 😂😂😂 I guess I offroad my civic everyday whenever I drive on the dirt road to my house 😂
i guess they didn't wanna risk it cuz it's not actually their cybertruck, plus you saw how bad the range was just on a dirt road, imagine actually going offroading, their range would be half of what it was in the vid
I miss "offroading" my Dodge Stealth/3000GT
Lived about 12 miles outside of town, and about 4 miles down a wash :D
Yeah, but does you civic have 'baja mode'? When in doubt go baja mode, worked for Brendan Schaub. 🤣
@@realElectroZap I've seen people do harder things with other vehicles that they even received from manufacturers lol
@@carholic-sz3qv lol
I'm so not surprised by the turn of events. But also disappointed you guys didn't get to finish the trip. I hope to see this trail revisited.
50 50 chance it was in the script. Let's start by driving 80+ MPH to drain the battery.... Then we can't continue the trip. Top gear did this when they had the original Tesla roadster. In their case it was a fake break down. Don't believe everything you see on UA-cam. These guys are here to make money. Shite needs to happen.,
As soon as I saw on the map they were going from LA out to Cerro Gordo, then across death valley I knew the exact shenanigan's that would happen. And then they got a Cybertruck already modified with inefficient tires and who knows what else.
@@nobeliefisok9174 enjoy your delusion and continue to defend the truck mate. Fact of the matter is, the modifications wouldn't have materially changed the outcome, and the 80 mph was at the start of the video, on a completely different day. On the final day, he was going as efficiently as possible. But if you need to turn off pretty much all useful creature comforts and still have massive issues with range, then what is the point of this vehicle?
@@danharold3087 thats a good argument against the truck. and yeah, but this isnt just donut on youtube, this is literally every truck owner. whos been explicitly happy with the cybertrucks range?
@@litetaker What is wrong with you? Panties in a wad or something? How on earth did you construe my comment to be "defending" the Cybertruck? And how do think that changing tires from 33" high efficiency tires to 35" off road capable tires would not materially change the range of the Cybertruck? Delusional often? You attack me for no reason, and do not even understand basic concepts.
Reread what I posted then think about all the videos from Donut. They are videos of shenanigan's that the team gets up to, and I was predicting what those would be in this video. I was right. You, not normal people but you specifically interpreted my saying "shenanigan's" as the video was trying to deceive the audience when in fact the word is used correctly by me with the other meaning of the word... mischievous activity.
You need to quit trying so hard to be a Tesla Troll, where you assume everyone not trolling Teslas must be delusional Tesla fanbois. Most people are neither, like me. Think before you post!
I love seeing Justin hosting more. He's hilarious 😂
Second that!
Yes
I have a few questions that weren't answered. One is, they appeared to have electricity at the ghost town. Could you not have used a regular 120V charger overnight to regain some range? Also, you are driving up into the mountains. Do you really need to conserve 50% power for the return trip? you'll regenerate a lot on the way back down. Also, those tires are going to reduce the range, just like large tires will reduce fuel economy on a gas car. It isn't fair to expect it to get factory range numbers after these modifications anymore than you'd expect a gas car to get factory fuel economy with large tires.
It takes 80 - 100 hours to charge a Cybertruck from a 120 volt outlet, so I guess you could do it, if the other 5 trucks and guys want to spend 3 days watching the CyberPaperweight charge slowly tick up...
Fair points, but they didn't harp on the range being below advertised as being something they were mad about anyhow, as it wasn't the point of the video. Plus to be fair, a stock Cybertruck evidently can't offroad quite as well as Elon says it can lmao. With that said, I think it's a pretty cool truck, with a lot of (fairly understandable) drawbacks and some (highly typical for Tesla) recalls and issues in the first production units. Yet people seem to only be allowed to have two opinions on it: Either it's literally the worst thing ever made or it's literal perfection with zero flaws.
@@sprinkle61 Would charge about 4-6 times as fast on 240V though (depending on 30A or 50A circuit), and 240V is most likely available since nearly all 120V generators operate at 240V split phase and give you two 120V circuits. With that said, it's probably something they'd need to plan ahead of time to wire up, I doubt anyone onsite has thought of EV charging as a design consideration for the circuit wiring and you'll need some heavy duty cables that can carry the current of that circuit without overheating.
But if all that was worked out, 80 hours / double the voltage / 3 times the current = ~13 hours of charging, not bad.
regen working much worse than you expect. It's not like "disabling fuel injection during downhill", it's about "reduce speed to about 0 to regenerate energy back". Very bad, imo.
The only working solution to reduce power consumption IS THE SAME for a gas car: Remove your foot off the gas and push it gently.
And this is awful. Chinese hybrid car solved the issue while Elon Musk saying "energy efficient vehicles is all about Tesla", and you just can't make it low-powered lol
So you ended up driving it with the features of Ford model T, while still doing 0 off road, what a great success piece of a press paper
This is how Donut works. Wasting 16 minutes of video just to say "no, you can't"
@@nikostalk5730 Cry cry cry
@@nocoffeenofun ha ha ha, who needs to cry on other's laziness?
@@nikostalk5730 you sure do
the road cloesd man
I wish they would bring back the progress bar at the bottom of their in video commercials like they used to do. It made it so much easier to skip through the commercial lol.
i would assume some sponsors request them to not have it
@@NithinJune probably lol
@@superdooper6969 so what's that got to do with anything?
@@superdooper6969 what do u mean? It's easier to skip when the bar is at the bottom. And Walmart who said anything about Walmart?? I'm talking about the adds that the creators make during the videos.
Well I mean from a sponsor's perspective of course they'd want you to watch their ads, or else why even bother adding ads
"Capable offroad."
It's only been a couple of seconds and I am already laughing. 🤣
It was scripted to make you laugh. Think about it.
What surprised me is the loose accelerator pedal cover recall gave the specific number of 3,878 total units delivered so far in about six months. That is way short of the initial 125K and later 250K units per year Tesla said it would produce. There must be some fairly serious impediments to volume production. Despite the low numbers delivered, owner blogs have a lot of complaining about quality control issues. The four years of resources Tesla spent on the Cybertruck probably would have been better put toward developing a less feature-rich entry level car which could have been sold globally.
There are a lot of neat innovations in the Cybertruck and it does deliver top notch performance within limits of the battery capacity. Tesla is kind of stuck with the Cybertruck now, and they don’t have the entry level car that investors have been hoping for. It is a little late to be getting into the global entry level market now because BYD and other Chinese makers already have a large presence and the mind share granted by being there first.
I’ll tell you something great about Lone Pine, CA. I rode from Woodland Hills, CA to Lone Pine on Father’s day 3 years ago. Death Valley, which runs parallel to Hwy 395 (the Hwy the guys are on) hit 136 degrees. Painful is an extreme understatement as motorbikes don’t have AC. I got the first hotel on the left around 4:00 pm, cooled down and passed out for the night. When I got up I had NO KEYS!!! After panicking for about 10 minutes, I went out to my bike, that was parked right on the road, and found my keys in the trunk of my bike, when’re they had been since 4:00 pm the previous day. When in he led out the manger asked if I found my keys because he saw them in my bike the night before.
What a wonderful little town.
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These monster tires are sure range killers.
they shouldnt be especially for a regenerative braking vehicle because they can recover all that inertia. my 2000 ranger is torsion key leveled on 31s with 200lbs of winch on the front, and its getting 20mpg mix which is the best that could ever be expected of a stock one. so theyre not helping, but to blame them entirely wouldnt be the right move
@@jackradzelovage6961 I think the larger tires mess up the efficiency of the stock gearing.
@@bernardhossmoto it doesnt have gearing. no matter what size tires you have on it, the car is gonna adjust for that by simply spinning the motor more slowly and with higher torque
@@jackradzelovage6961 I have an electric enduro bike with 15kW, the gearing DOES matter a lot. A lower gearing puts less stress on the battery.
EDIT: It is not a gearing as in a gear box, it is the final drive ratio that matters.
@@bernardhossmoto thats probably because your motor is more efficient at higher speeds, so leaving it in a lower gear for longer nets you less consumption. i have no idea how tesla motors dyno or how wide their efficiency range is, ie di the bigger wheels actually drop it that far out of the efficient speed range? this becomes specific hardware dependent very quickly.
I have a feeling a lot of these are going to be found abandoned in the deserts of the Middle East. Plus the range combined with the weight of these will probably make a lot of them unrecoverable
Not for Matt from Matt's Off Road Recovery!
@@alexeikotov7769 LOL ya I guess Utah will be ok, though he might need some heavier equipment. I’d be more terrified of them catching fire while I was recovering one though, especially a crashed or high centred one
cars get abandoned in the middle east because the owners can’t make the payments and also you can be jailed for debt there
@@NithinJune yes some are abandoned for that reason, but some people (especially ones with a lot of money) will leave a car just because it ran out of gas
@@MrJayrock620 it'll be a great video though...
Such an awesome video! Really appreciate you guys and your take on this!!!
Efforts to this vid:
1 tow track, 10-15l of fuel for Gas engine and bunch of laughing guys on Toyotas
I managed a trip like this before, it was a 2 person, week-long mountaineering/camping trip, driving over terrain like this to get to the hills
*In an MX5*
With nothing more than some half decent all-weather tires and a boot rack
So well done cybertruck, you've proved to have the off-roading capabilities of a low end MX5 (except I could carry extra fuel)
This video doesent show any hardcore off roading but watch some other videos of the Cybertruck actually going off roading and it's definitely better than this video makes it look.
But you didn't have blinkenlights.
@@thomasadamian i think I have seen just about every off road demonstration of the cyber truck to date and the videos all prove that a 95 Honda civic can go more places than the cyber truck could ever dream. It's a scam get over it
@@thomasadamian I will take a Subaru for proven offroad capability before a Cybertruck
Once Elon invents the battery pack, this thing will also be able to carry extra 'fuel'...
watching you guys stop in Lone Pine and see the ghost town brought back so many memories of me spending summers with my grandmother and the trip up to the ghost town on motorcycles with my grandfather. when we were up there years ago they told us they were trying to make it a tourist destination. Was so cool to see their progress, thanks!
Launching this on the day of a massive cybertruck recall 🤣🤣 the timing.
100% intentional lol
😂😂 I agree
"massive"?
@@tyrelirwinall of them.
If anyone is curious, ~3800 trucks were recalled because if you stomped on the gas hard enough to break the grip off the top of the pedal, it was possible to wedge the grip into the front of the footwell in a way that wedged the throttle on. So far it caused no issues, but it could potentially be dangerous.
This genuinely makes the cybertruck look absolutely pitiful and I honestly really wanted to like it...
The Cerro Gordo/Donut mashup I didn't expect. I've been watching both channels for years, that was awesome!
Perfect timing for this video, today there was a recall on 3900 cybertrucks due to a faulty accelerator pedal. Take a wild guess at how many are on the road currently...
Plenty of companies issue recalls to all of their vehicles.
This was the most hardcore off-road driving ever!!!!
On a dirt road
We've got main roads tougher than this 😅
@@Pomdownuder irony
Setting up to be the next Grand Tour with production like this. Kudos
We just need a sweeping monologue at the end with Justin waxing poetic about how their failure represents something profound and important.
when you have to bring 3 towtrucks, you know its bad
Absolutely underrated comment
and end up towing the towtrucks cause they run out of gas...
@@esaedvik the cyber-cope
I'd like to see gas generator, fuel cell, using regular charge plugs that fit 120v wall-power and 240v drier and cooking-oven outlets... If there is a multi-day parking period involved maybe try using solar to avoid battery drain while parked. Deep country in an ev I feel is possible but requires different preparation for combating range anxiety with whatever resources are available and with careful planning.
I think Stellantis is making exactly what you’re describing, the new Ramcharger has a gas generator and 690 miles of combined range. I’m not sure if it will support outlet charging or not but I do think it will be the most successful “ev” truck when it comes out.
Deep offroad in an ev is years away from being viable
Well a gas generator would make it a hybrid which they do sell those lol
Also they do have adapters for 120 and 240 plugs obviously though its alot slower charge
@@JugganLoo Yeah, technically the could have charged at that gasless gas station, it would have just taken hours.
"Today we're stopping at the ghost town of Cerro Gordo."
THE WAY I SCREAMED " NO WAYYYY" Ghosting Town Living mentioned!!!
Brent gotta fire up the duece and a half show that cybertruck what a real truck looks like
Not just mentioned, if you continue watching the video, they actually meet the guy
his whole channel and concept is a scam.
@@craigbikes8831 ur a scam
@@craigbikes8831 Yup. Just another wealthy techbro asshole.
"We're going off road now"
"But then, the unexpected, a road closure"
Yeah, that IS unexpected. 13:22
It gets better: "The infrastructure to support off road". These writers definitely had fun with this video. 😂
Cerro Gordo Mines has an elevation of 8800 feet. Furnace Creek - where 4 destination chargers are, has an elevation of 190 feet BELOW sea level. Why couldn’t you make?
I heard owners were having issues with their cybertrucks.
"the media told me cybertruck bad"
Yeah rust, bad visibility, less mileage, and no locked diff.
Like the guy who had his front screen stop working after he washed the truck.
Also isn’t bullet proof and is too big for even the US
Is your name a joke on tanner foust or is that your actual name
hi Donut, great video and really enjoyed seeing a roadtrip video with the cybertruck. justin is one of them people who seems really geniune, comes across very humble and a gentle giant. Kudo's to donut anaother great vid :-) Peace out from Daz and my dog Max in the uk.
7:13 I could feel the anxiety of range !? Never thought I would. Haven't bought it but that would be new headache I don't want. Plus can't carry extra range either
So rad to see Donut collabing with Ghost Town Living! Been watching both since inception for both and never dreamed of a team up!
Thats what I’m saying!
Who else remembers Cerro Gordo being in a video about rich people from tech companies buying things and turning those things into hipster attractions?
yea it's a scam
Yeah shit the old hotel burned down after 100+ years, just when this guy arrived and started messing around.
Yeah well now he needs donations from us to rebuild it so he can make money from it. Yes the old hotel was not up to code anymore and a risk to visistors, but it's really just a shame this historic building burned to the ground. But hey give this millionaire your hard earned money so he can 'rebuild' and is actually allowed to have people stay there.
What a weird coincidence.
I member
Yeah disappointed to see them hanging out with that asshole.
I remember insurance fraud and fleecing gullible idiots so yes.
They tried to stretch it as far it would go. I like how they prove it can definitely do camping on the first stop, but then show the limits later. Try again with the range extender pack later! Might be interesting to see this attempted again. Could also try the Silverado EV or Rivian Max Pack. They have a little bit more range.
Another thing to consider is driving technique. I have a humble Chevy bolt and I can get close to 6 miles per kwh with one pedal driving and minimal climate controls. I can typically make a drive down to San Diego (122 mi) from LA using only 75-80 miles of range. Took me awhile to get used to driving exclusively one pedal tho.
would love to see this thing’s actual off road performance, driving on dirt roads like that is something my Camry could do.
I want to say the scenery and shots of B Roll were absolutely stunning.
If doing an extended off-road trip, a generator would definitely be a required accessory with an EV.
Ahahahah
Which defeats the whole entire purpose 😂😂 The cybertruck is the most ironic vehicle ever made!
At that point geet a jeep
Your typical hardware store generator makes 3-5 kilowatts of electrical power. In the 3 hours it takes the Cybertruck to drain its 123 kWh battery, the 5kW generator would have added only 15kWh of charge which is just 12%. To charge the vehicle completely assuming 100% charging efficiency, it would take 24 hours.
@@electric_boogaloo496 I meant charge it overnight while camping.
I love my Cybertruck for off-roading! Huge Clearance! Tons of torque for climbing boulders. I did a 6 hour off-roading run and no problems!
3:30 "We wanted to drive something cool"
Sure, when were you planning on getting something cool?
the truck rusted after all that fog, but it's the rental place's problem
I missed the part where they went offroad? 😂
14:29
They were paid by tesla so they csnt say anything bad about it
This was a dope episode i was cracking up. Everyone was on point the camera crew catching reactions, editors with the zoom ins and the guests man this was golden.😂
Another thing that needs to be accounted for is that the increase in suspension height and much larger tires will definitely eat up battery efficiency.
Everythings eats up mileage, this is how Cybertruck works, you just can't use it with lowest possible wattage, like the iPhones, it can't let you disable tracking, for real
Freeman needs more work like this. He is the man. Now let's see him tear a telephone book in half when the Cybertruck fails him.
Wish y'all would do this with a Rivian!
the rivian might be capabale, but it's still not making it out there lol. unless there's solar superchargers along the route in death valley haha
Why? What do you think would happen different? You're going to have the same issues finding a place to charge.
The UA-cam channel collab I wasn't expecting but happy to watch
Hats off to you guys for taking an EV truck to Death Valley. I was planning a trip to Death Valley in my Toyota Rav4 Prime and and I was looking for places to charge and I was like man what a nightmare. I just said forget charging. I think a PHEV is PERFECT for Death Valley. The Rav4 can pretty much go anywhere in Death Valley if you are brave enough it has 500+ mile range so you don't have to get range anxiety. Even when I ride my motorcycle through death valley I get range anxiety. I'm jealous you guys went to Cerro Gordo, when I was riding my motorcycle up the back end in Saline Valle of it which is extremely steep and rocky I ran into snow and ice. When I ran into enough of it I decided to turn around. I didn't know it was much easier on the other side.
So what the Cybertruck fun to drive off road? Was it comfy on those bumpy rocky roads? I know the rav4 I had to air down it was so bumpy on those small SUV tires.
Lol you didn't actually watch the video did you.
I’m glad this episode was geared towards the experience with the cyber truck, rather than a review of the cyber truck. Not biased. It lets the viewers decide their own opinions.
"our route was too ambitious for the Cybertruck"
>drives on dirt road a fiat punto could easily get through with half a tank of gas
a 1.0 NA vw up would get through it
those 35s were killing the battery life FASTTTTTT😂😂
Stock are 33 ( actually 33.5 Goodyear Wrangler Territory RT - 285/65R20) , so I doubt it, plus electric motors deliver full torque instantly
@@BigWolfBoy50 thank you i did not know that, so the battery life is just that horrid regularly lol ?
@@ChenteCasanova Tesla’s range testing is optimized to almost perfect conditions (temperature , flat roads, 65mph or less etc.). It’s unrealistic as a fairly cold/rainy day or bit of uphill driving already falls out of that optimal realm.
In my own personal experience, we’ve never gotten more than 255-265 miles out of our 2 Teslas (Model 3 LR and Model Y LR), rated at 322 and 330 miles respectively. Great vehicles, but they have to fit your lifestyle or vice versa.
@@fc3sturbogtr ahhhh i seee thank you for the knowledge 🙏🏽
That was the most brilliantly unenthusiastic 'easter trip with the boys' cheer. yay.
That death pit is where you should park that Cybertruck.
My 91 Honda prelude could have made that trip😂
For range, the Honda prelude would have way outlasted every vehicle there by a lot. And not made more than a few feet once they went offroad. Those landcruisers original spec before modifications for off road only got 275 miles range. Your prelude was around 375. With the mods they did, they are probably closer to 230-240 miles range. The tesla with the modified tires was somewhat less.
im surprised yours still works my vtec went out and i have no idea what's wrong with her
Love to see Ghost Town Living getting some love! What a wonderful collab this is. ❤
I can't be the only one whose blood pressure went up when they turned the flashing light show on the first night... if a slightly bumpy dirt road chewed through double the battery charge, I was fully expecting the next part of the video to be waking up the next morning to find they'd just made themselves a Cybertruck-shaped paperweight!
Worries about battery charge, proceeds to throw a desert rave.
they charged after that so it doesn’t matter
Those 35"s are probably the biggest draw on battery life - the standard one comes on 31's I think, and they're specially built for the truck, low rolling resistance, etc.
low rolling resistance = low traction. thats not acceptable for off roading (obviously), and if they need to be changed out for normal tires before off roading then thats definitely a mark agaisnt the truck
@@jackradzelovage6961 That's why so many were getting stuck in just a bit of snow, the tires are not up to anything like that. Scary to think of something this heavy, this fast with no real grip.
Try a Offroad Roadtrip with a Chevy Silverado EV
I am generally a Japanese car guy, but that Silverado EV is brilliant. 400+ mile range and I just love how the back window and wall disassemble to create a 10' bed. Well done Chevy!
As an EV owner, I can say that that battery drain is pathetic. Not only is the design a sin against artistry, but a 76% drain on battery after an hour? I couldn't drain my battery that fast in winter, even if I tried.
I love that you guys went to Cerro Gordo. I've been watching him since the start of 2020
Too bad he's a fraud
You should’ve abandoned this box on wheels on the side of the road and still go see the Death Valley on your crew cars.
in truck world, bigger tires means lower fuel economy... lol
5:15 - holding his empty cup like he isn't already wearing his coffee lmfao
Thing can't even handle a car wash 💀
Take mine through the was a few times a week. Some of you really pull some weird $hit out of each others a$$holes lol
The cybertruck was such a joke and Donut only proves it more lol
Yeah that upcoming battery extender for the Cybertruck is an absolute MUST if you wanna go on trips like this. Just like bringing a jerry can, if you wanna go on a long distance off-road trip like that, youve got to have a way to extend your range. I wonder if one day itll be more common for there to be solar powered chargers installed on off-road trails...? Also, Battery capacity and charging speed has doubled in the last 10-ish years (hence why EVs are only a thing now) and is supposed to do the same in the next 10, so I wonder where we'll be then.
Also, super lame that the Cybertruck didn't launch with the ext battery and solar bed cover
It’s a decent sized bed. You could probably put a diesel generator in it and recharge it anywhere😊
@@taa-dow6713 or just bring your own solar kit
@@taa-dow6713 at that point just get a disel ICE driven car
More likely a diesel powered charging station.
@@paul5683 There are already charging stations out there that are solar with a battery backup. Would be more than enough. The cost of transporting diesel to the middle of nowhere would cost so much that nobody would want to use the charging station. It'd end up costing 2x or more of gas. Keeping it solar means near zero upkeep costs, so the cost to charge would actually likely match or beat typical charging stations.
14:51 why they haven't fitted solar ? It would have help customer for that crucial few miles to next charging station. Solar panel would easily fit in that glass above body
Also, the reason you got charge back. You started conserving energy. basically it predicts off of usage. So going 80mph vs 65 will be different. say 40% & 80% if that makes senes.
"preffered height high" I think this is the most efficient settings... LOL
Great job demonstrating that ev’s are for going to work and back in the city.
Expensive and impractical.
I fucking LOVE when two completely disassociatedd UA-cam accounts that I’ve been watching for years have a completely out of the blue cross over 😂😂 amazinggggg
7:43
Dude: Hug?
Justin: No, thanks 😂
Everyone: This is awkward….
he wasnt going for a hug, it wasnt awkward
@@dirtrider88 it looked like it, that was the point.
The dang licence plate almost flew of the cybertruck a 12:40 😂😂
that's a new-car paper "plate"
@@Fyre0 ohw wow did not know that. Seems odd to first use paper, because printing a plate is like a 5-10 minute job. At least that was the case when i bought new ones.
that always happens
@@angeloverton7063all new cars have temp tags for a little bit
@@angeloverton7063 It's temporary, straight from the dealership/store. They're to be replaced by the actual plates from the department of motor vehicles after registration. Usually no more than a couple weeks.
I know it helps with the storytelling, but the decent from wild Rose pass down to stovepipe Wells is crazy, so all that downhill helped the Regen when you guys stopped for gas. We just drove up that way to panamint in my 20 year old Toyota and yeah that pass is brutal with 35"s and 4.88 gears
Was that the base real wheel drive model? Have not been following closely but Tesla advertised 600 mile range for the dual motor back in 2021