The Prophet Rev2 sounds great! To me, however, this synth is all about great value for money. You can do so much with 4 LFOs, 3 envelopes, an extensive mod matrix, 2 layers per patch, onboard effects, etc. It's a true inspiration machine!
There are plenty of used Rev2 on the market, try purchase another. I watched a Yt video from a guy who sold his rev2 on 2 occasions and on his 3rd purchase he is keeping it because he understands its capability now.
@@alexanderbelov6892 if I had to only use one keyboard to make a track I’d rather use the deepmind. I love my rev2 but the deepmind does what I need it to easily.
@@alexanderbelov6892Functionality wise the Deepmind 12 leaves it way behind. On a side note, I sold my Rev 2 once I spent an afternoon on the Novation Summit, which is another with so much more functionality and depth. The rev 2 is ok, but I don't miss it. It's seriously overpriced for what it is, it should be much less than the Summit for example. Your primerily paying for the name 'Dave Smith'!!!....which I didn't like written on the front panel...spoiled the look of it.
@@maydaygoingdown5602 There is simple comparison of DS Rev2-16 and Deepmind 12: - Number of voices: 16 vs 12 - Number of OSC: 2 vs 2 - OSC waveforms: Saw/Saw+Tri/Tri/Pulse/Noise vs. Saw/Pulse/Global Noise - Stacking of two layers per patch: Yes vs No - LFOs per voice: 4 vs 2 - LFO waveforms: 5 vs 7 (OK) - Envelops: 3x DADSR vs 3xADSR - Modulation Matrix: (10 embedded + 8 slots) x2 layers vs 8 slots (so you can program up to 36 modulations per 2 layer instrument in DS Rev2 and only 8 modulations in DM12) - Patch memory: 512 Embedded+512 User vs ?+1024 User - Gate/control sequencer: 4x16-step vs 32-step - Polyphonic sequencer: 64-step 6-key vs No - Digital bypass mode: Yes vs Yes (no SFX) - Arpegiator: Yes vs Yes - Params Control: 55 knobs + 35 buttons vs 2 knobs + 26 sliders + 33 buttons + 1 dial knob - Keyboard: 61-keys with velocity and aftertouch vs 49-keys with velocity and aftertouch. Other functions are similar or I may miss something.
@@alexanderbelov6892 Yes kind of, the glaringly obvious being the huge price difference. No Wi-Fi midi on the Rev 2. The software editor on Deepmind 12 is better and actually works as should. The effects are far better on the DM.12. The ADSR generator of the DM12 compared to the Rev 2/Digital. I'm not saying the Rev 2 is not a good or nice synth, it is. It's just very overpriced for what it is, what it's capable of, and features compared to most other synths on the market. Especially when you can pick up DM12 used for 400 quid, or the Arturia Poly Brute for same price on return price. Or a brand new summit which again leaves it behind for less. But like I said, you gotta pay more for the name 'Dave Smith'.
A few things I wish my Rev 2 had: A much longer Reverb. A more aggressive distortion w a feedback loop (I understand FB Loop would be impossible). The ability for Layer B to be modulated by Layer A, or at least the oscillators, so that we can have an FM signal modulated by 3 other sources. I'm probably leaving something out, but other than that, I love it very much.
Great video ! I do have Rev2, Nord Stage 3 and Microkorg XL and I love my setup. I don’t feel like I need something elesse at the moment but I’m in love with the sound of mood sub 37. Unfortunately never had a chance to put my hands on it, that’s why I wanted ask for your opinion. Do you think this could be a good choice ? Pozdrowienia z Londynu !
Hi.. does the layering A B function come with rev 2 8 voices or is it just for the 16 voice version of this synth Great video really enjoyed watching it, thanks
Thank you for the inspiration, you are an inspirational person. Loved that patch, I thought the reverb on the Rev2 was not so good, but I have now to get a closer look/ear.
Gr8 video! I purchased one to compliment my Korg kronos2. I'm a guitarist and I agree every musician should have hardware to create. Thanks for sharing......
I'm so glad I saw this video especially since I own a rev2 .. I keep falling in love with it over and over ...tnx for the clip ....and .. Er what about that sound bank ..? Lol
I am stuck between the rev 2 and the moog matriarch.. it's such a hard choice .. part of me loves the Modular capabilities I can plug in the delay to other synths and just so much randomness I could create but another part says do I really wanna spend all that time tuning it and not being able to recall presets ..do you have any matriarch videos?
The Matriarch is not a poly synth, it is a paraphonic synth. It all depends on what kind of music you want to make. Both are great, but if for your first synth I'd go for the Rev2.
I have both. grab a matriarch now if you want to own a US made moog. They are shifting manufacturing to overseas because moog got sold. Get the rev2 later.
OH WOW!!!! You're the only one who has figured out how to pronounce my screen-name (as it is spelled phonetically)... Your senses of awareness and analytical decryption are proving to be #Formidible! :-D Also, I am SUPER glad that you are covering this topic. I am struggling to understand some things which I want to do as a new person versus what seems to be commonly available... Largely because I do not have the vocabulary/lexicon yet to understand what everything is. I really want to add dirt/fuzz on the SUPER FLAT sounds in Kontakt which took me nearly a year to upgrade to the full standalone version because I don't care for most of the sounds. But, after realizing how many things I was passing on/missing out on, which "Fundamentally" have nice qualities but need treatment... ...I decided that it was time for ME TO LEARN how to inject more dimensionality to the sub-standard tones and make them pop. Otherwise, I will never learn to truly produce. SO, I have a long way to go, and many things to learn my friend. P.S. I may end up expanding into a "Komplete" bundle over the holidays (but, if I don't... that won't surprise me either. LOL)
I'm beginning to form a quite strong opinion that it you want a really 3d sound that pops out your speakers your best bet is to go out of the box. I have recently upgraded to a Prism Sound interface and that really reveals to me what sounds are 3d and which aren't, and all the outboard gear I have delivers that sound immediately where vsts generally don't. The exception is only with Spectrasonics Trillian. I didn't own Omnisphere (yet) but I expect the sound quality will be on par, as even the fx section is just on another level to my other soft synths. I own Komplete Ultimate 11, Diva, Zebra and Serum notably. Another example is Strymon Nightsky I recently purchased. That is a proper 3d sound, especially when I run my Technics digital piano or other out of the box sounds through it. I don't own every soft reverb but compared to the ones I do they don't come close to the depth and clarity of image. Even my Behringer TD3 just sounds real. So what I'll suggest is take a long time compiling a list of the things you want or think you need, do lots of research, and then gradually start chipping away at it, I'm sure you'll be blown away as I have been. If not, you can always sell what you don't want 👍
@@jonnyidle I'm TOTALLY down to go out of the box. But I first need to learn which synths will allow me to route audio signal through to distort (not wanting to sample, but add effect to channels). And I want to learn to do that in VSTs first, due to: 1.) Utilization of hardware tools on day 1 as I will comprehend how to use them 2.) Cost of entry 3.) I already have a ton packed into my 2 bedroom apartment. So if I Dont know how to use a physical tool, then I am effectively purchasing decreased usable space.
@@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios yeah fair enough. There is a hell of a lot to learn if you are starting from scratch, and especially if you compare yourself to artists who's production you particularly admire, it can be quite disheartening, so don't do it. Remember: art is exploration. The finished product is the motivation, but it is in the exploring that we find meaning. Enjoy 👍
During this time, it was possible to disassemble the entire synthesizer, piece by piece. Well, if you don't like healthy criticism of your video, then... I am one of the first owners of Prophet 8 in the world. And I know what I'm talking about. I was hoping to understand the difference between the new version and the old one. Okay, I'll go watch some other video. Luckily there are a lot of them here.
Hello, hello! Let's discuss :) What do you think about Rev2 and my brand new patch? xD
happy Rev2 owner here, too... nice to watch, well done !
Thanks!
I liked your video a lot ! Small question : is this a 8 or a 16 voice version that you are using ?
Thanks! 16!
The Prophet Rev2 sounds great! To me, however, this synth is all about great value for money. You can do so much with 4 LFOs, 3 envelopes, an extensive mod matrix, 2 layers per patch, onboard effects, etc. It's a true inspiration machine!
Recently sold my Rev 2. I feel so stupid. 😭
There are plenty of used Rev2 on the market, try purchase another. I watched a Yt video from a guy who sold his rev2 on 2 occasions and on his 3rd purchase he is keeping it because he understands its capability now.
Should you keep the deep mind if you have the rev2?
They are at different levels of functionality. You can give 'deep mind' to kids.
@@alexanderbelov6892 if I had to only use one keyboard to make a track I’d rather use the deepmind. I love my rev2 but the deepmind does what I need it to easily.
@@alexanderbelov6892Functionality wise the Deepmind 12 leaves it way behind.
On a side note, I sold my Rev 2 once I spent an afternoon on the Novation Summit, which is another with so much more functionality and depth.
The rev 2 is ok, but I don't miss it. It's seriously overpriced for what it is, it should be much less than the Summit for example. Your primerily paying for the name 'Dave Smith'!!!....which I didn't like written on the front panel...spoiled the look of it.
@@maydaygoingdown5602
There is simple comparison of DS Rev2-16 and Deepmind 12:
- Number of voices: 16 vs 12
- Number of OSC: 2 vs 2
- OSC waveforms: Saw/Saw+Tri/Tri/Pulse/Noise vs. Saw/Pulse/Global Noise
- Stacking of two layers per patch: Yes vs No
- LFOs per voice: 4 vs 2
- LFO waveforms: 5 vs 7 (OK)
- Envelops: 3x DADSR vs 3xADSR
- Modulation Matrix: (10 embedded + 8 slots) x2 layers vs 8 slots (so you can program up to 36 modulations per 2 layer instrument in DS Rev2 and only 8 modulations in DM12)
- Patch memory: 512 Embedded+512 User vs ?+1024 User
- Gate/control sequencer: 4x16-step vs 32-step
- Polyphonic sequencer: 64-step 6-key vs No
- Digital bypass mode: Yes vs Yes (no SFX)
- Arpegiator: Yes vs Yes
- Params Control: 55 knobs + 35 buttons vs 2 knobs + 26 sliders + 33 buttons + 1 dial knob
- Keyboard: 61-keys with velocity and aftertouch vs 49-keys with velocity and aftertouch.
Other functions are similar or I may miss something.
@@alexanderbelov6892 Yes kind of, the glaringly obvious being the huge price difference.
No Wi-Fi midi on the Rev 2.
The software editor on Deepmind 12 is better and actually works as should.
The effects are far better on the DM.12.
The ADSR generator of the DM12 compared to the Rev 2/Digital.
I'm not saying the Rev 2 is not a good or nice synth, it is.
It's just very overpriced for what it is, what it's capable of, and features compared to most other synths on the market.
Especially when you can pick up DM12 used for 400 quid, or the Arturia Poly Brute for same price on return price.
Or a brand new summit which again leaves it behind for less.
But like I said, you gotta pay more for the name 'Dave Smith'.
A few things I wish my Rev 2 had: A much longer Reverb. A more aggressive distortion w a feedback loop (I understand FB Loop would be impossible). The ability for Layer B to be modulated by Layer A, or at least the oscillators, so that we can have an FM signal modulated by 3 other sources. I'm probably leaving something out, but other than that, I love it very much.
Very cool ideas, I like them :) I'd go Eventide H9/H90 for what you suggested!
15:01 is when the Rev2 gets real.
Great video !
I do have Rev2, Nord Stage 3 and Microkorg XL and I love my setup. I don’t feel like I need something elesse at the moment but I’m in love with the sound
of mood sub 37. Unfortunately never had a chance to put my hands on it, that’s why I wanted ask for your opinion. Do you think this could be a good choice ?
Pozdrowienia z Londynu !
If your goal is to rip the public with teriffic bass or a variety of leads, there will be nothing better than Subsequent37. Go for it!
Awesome creativity, I did similar stuff on Roland Jupiter & Roland Juno in the 80's. I like this David Smith Rev 2. Thanx for sharing 🎹🎼🎶🎵😎🕶️👓👍🏽
Waiting for that full bank of patches :)
Hi.. does the layering A B function come with rev 2 8 voices or is it just for the 16 voice version of this synth
Great video really enjoyed watching it, thanks
Thanks! I believe that 8 voice has got exactly same set of features, jus 8 voices of polyphony less.
Thank you for the inspiration, you are an inspirational person. Loved that patch, I thought the reverb on the Rev2 was not so good, but I have now to get a closer look/ear.
Thanks a lot, the reverb on this synth is very simple, but also very good!
@@FoliaSound I believe you and this proves one should make up his own mind before listening to the vocal majority. TY
Gr8 video! I purchased one to compliment my Korg kronos2. I'm a guitarist and I agree every musician should have hardware to create. Thanks for sharing......
Nice that you liked it, thanks!
Excelente revisión! La mejor que he visto. Divertida, sencilla y apasionada.
Mam go od 3 lat. . Zakochałem się. I miłość ta się pogłębia z czasem.
U mnie to samo :) Pozdrowienia!
I'm so glad I saw this video especially since I own a rev2 .. I keep falling in love with it over and over ...tnx for the clip ....and ..
Er what about that sound bank ..? Lol
Love the video, your energy and enthusiasm! Can’t wait to get on my rev2 now! Thank you!
I am stuck between the rev 2 and the moog matriarch.. it's such a hard choice .. part of me loves the Modular capabilities I can plug in the delay to other synths and just so much randomness I could create but another part says do I really wanna spend all that time tuning it and not being able to recall presets ..do you have any matriarch videos?
The Matriarch is not a poly synth, it is a paraphonic synth. It all depends on what kind of music you want to make. Both are great, but if for your first synth I'd go for the Rev2.
I have both. grab a matriarch now if you want to own a US made moog. They are shifting manufacturing to overseas because moog got sold. Get the rev2 later.
^^ I have both, and they’re both correct. But if it’s your first/only synth, Rev2 is probably the better option (if only for having presets).
8voice or 16voice？I’m not sure 😊
I went for 16 and don't regret it!
You need to tweak your DeEsser, your SSSSSS is too much.
Gotta push that comment
Excellent review 👍
where you say it's fat it isn't but i like your video, thank you, Paul!
Thank you too :)
OH WOW!!!! You're the only one who has figured out how to pronounce my screen-name (as it is spelled phonetically)... Your senses of awareness and analytical decryption are proving to be #Formidible! :-D
Also, I am SUPER glad that you are covering this topic. I am struggling to understand some things which I want to do as a new person versus what seems to be commonly available... Largely because I do not have the vocabulary/lexicon yet to understand what everything is. I really want to add dirt/fuzz on the SUPER FLAT sounds in Kontakt which took me nearly a year to upgrade to the full standalone version because I don't care for most of the sounds. But, after realizing how many things I was passing on/missing out on, which "Fundamentally" have nice qualities but need treatment...
...I decided that it was time for ME TO LEARN how to inject more dimensionality to the sub-standard tones and make them pop. Otherwise, I will never learn to truly produce.
SO, I have a long way to go, and many things to learn my friend.
P.S. I may end up expanding into a "Komplete" bundle over the holidays (but, if I don't... that won't surprise me either. LOL)
I'm beginning to form a quite strong opinion that it you want a really 3d sound that pops out your speakers your best bet is to go out of the box. I have recently upgraded to a Prism Sound interface and that really reveals to me what sounds are 3d and which aren't, and all the outboard gear I have delivers that sound immediately where vsts generally don't.
The exception is only with Spectrasonics Trillian. I didn't own Omnisphere (yet) but I expect the sound quality will be on par, as even the fx section is just on another level to my other soft synths. I own Komplete Ultimate 11, Diva, Zebra and Serum notably.
Another example is Strymon Nightsky I recently purchased. That is a proper 3d sound, especially when I run my Technics digital piano or other out of the box sounds through it. I don't own every soft reverb but compared to the ones I do they don't come close to the depth and clarity of image. Even my Behringer TD3 just sounds real.
So what I'll suggest is take a long time compiling a list of the things you want or think you need, do lots of research, and then gradually start chipping away at it, I'm sure you'll be blown away as I have been. If not, you can always sell what you don't want 👍
@@jonnyidle I'm TOTALLY down to go out of the box. But I first need to learn which synths will allow me to route audio signal through to distort (not wanting to sample, but add effect to channels). And I want to learn to do that in VSTs first, due to:
1.) Utilization of hardware tools on day 1 as I will comprehend how to use them
2.) Cost of entry
3.) I already have a ton packed into my 2 bedroom apartment. So if I Dont know how to use a physical tool, then I am effectively purchasing decreased usable space.
@@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios yeah fair enough. There is a hell of a lot to learn if you are starting from scratch, and especially if you compare yourself to artists who's production you particularly admire, it can be quite disheartening, so don't do it.
Remember: art is exploration. The finished product is the motivation, but it is in the exploring that we find meaning. Enjoy 👍
Good to hear you discussing things like this, guys. It's important to ask the right questions and give good answers. You both made good points here!
@@FoliaSound thank you and keep up the great videos!
Nice work!
Thanks!
u got that pack already? ;)
It's on the way, sir! Expect in next month maximum!
What are your thoughts on this vs a Juno-X? :)
Isn't Juno-X digital? I'm not sure whether it's different from Roland Cloud at all... Comparing analog vs digital - analog clearly wins!
all i have to say is ..polybrute - arturia are the real kings haha
Korg, king of bass.
Too many spechees…..
Sorry to hear that, hope you still like the sounds, man!
@@FoliaSound it’s fine.
22.5 minutes of video and almost nothing is said. Are you really a sound designer?
What would you like to hear? Did hou hear the patches? Don't like them? I'm fine with that, go watch something else!
During this time, it was possible to disassemble the entire synthesizer, piece by piece. Well, if you don't like healthy criticism of your video, then... I am one of the first owners of Prophet 8 in the world. And I know what I'm talking about. I was hoping to understand the difference between the new version and the old one. Okay, I'll go watch some other video. Luckily there are a lot of them here.
Ni e to hear that, take care!
It s not that amazing, just ok..
Ok, if you say so, Im just fine with it :) Cheers!
You buggin.