Radiohead on the DeepMind 12
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- Опубліковано 23 тра 2024
- The synth pad on Radiohead's "Everything In Its Right Place" is a famously wide and immersive sound. Many believe it consists of 2 separate Prophet 5 recordings playing simultaneously in the L and R channels. In this video, I show how the Behringer DeepMind 12 can leverage its Uni Voice mod source to create a patch that achieves the same stereo effect in real time, without the need to record multiple takes. Headphones or quality speakers are highly recommended.
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00:00 - Intro
00:28 - Background
01:41 - Stereo Techniques
04:06 - Uni Voice Explanation
07:59 - Everything In Its Right Place Patch
17:19 - Patch Demonstration
I am infinitely disappointed that after setting up all of the various knobs and sliders correctly, you did not proclaim “Everything in its right place”.
wow this was a missed opportunity
Excellent work here. I did an entire album with this synth 5 years ago. Super JX plus this and an 808, it was really easy to use and made the album feel vibey. I wish the brand would focus on original products more than copies, this is the best thing they ever created.
Agreed! Clones only do so much
Do you have a link so we can hear some of this album you mentioned ?
I'll take that compliment. Thanks.
as an amateur to sound design I almost hate listening to Radiohead because their sounds are so perfect. I've looked everywhere for great demonstrations of their stuff, especially from Kida A, and this video is so helpful and so well done. Thank you for making this and being so well spoken. Now if I could find a great video on the opening vocal remixing that'd be great lmaooo
I like to imagine Jonny Greenwood scratching Thom’s vocal on a turntable haha
@@jakubdomine It's actually Jonny Greenwood scratching Thom's vocal on a Kaoss Pad KP1!
Respect! So many people, me included, do not understand what they are doing. The Deepmind can be a bit (too) raspy with the filter open and we tend to move on to other synths because we don’t dive deep enough and figure out what we are doing.
You clearly know what you are doing, showing us we are wrong by getting amazing results.
With your clear explaining, I would definitely suggest starting a Patreon or whatever for your turorials
Thank you! I’m still toying with ways to support myself with content, a tutorial Patreon page could be interesting.
Wow! I thought my 'everything' patch was fairly good, but this is by far a more accurate recreation. Going to bust out the deepmind right now and get this going! Thanks
Happy to help!
I've owned a Deepmind 12 for around 4 years. I have used it really sporadically, I don't know much about synthesis. I am learning a lot from your videos; please keep them coming, you have a really pleasant way of explaining things!
amazing! i'd love to see more content like this, approaching more tracks, radiohead or not, but using the deepmind12
This was fantastically matched! Thanks for the patch; would love to see you do more of these. Recreating famous synth sounds is a hobby of mine.
YES! PLEASE KEEP THESE DM12 VIDEOS COMING!
Thank you so much! I will enjoy following along over the weekend!!!
This is fantastic! Very well done. There needs to be more Deepmind videos on here.
Can't believe how 2 uni voices actually sounded like a double take. Been gigging 4-5 times a week with DM12 for over a year now and I really didn't know how to use that function effectively. Excellent work man thanks a lot for this. Amazing sounding patch!
That was really cool and informative! I would love to see more famous patches breakdown on DM12 like this one
On it!
Thank you for this ! I’ve had the DM12 for a few years now , and this is first time I’ve heard a clear description of the uni voice mod source.
That was a big motivation for making this video. There’s really not much good info out there online about it, but it’s so useful
Well done. This is one of the best synth sound design videos that I’ve seen on YT. Thank you so much! And that Deepmind is really amazing. Subbed.
Thank you so much!
@@jakubdomine Just one note, it's a bit hard to see the lcd screen when you zoom in. Anything you can do to help there would be appreciated in future videos. Again, great work!
@@cheek1m0nkey yep I’m aware, I’ll have a secondary camera set up in future videos that’s focused on the screen to address this.
Dang you nailed it! The compression and reduced sustain with mod wheel really brought it home.
Yep, that changing filter envelope is absolutely key
This is beautiful and definitely deserves more praise, great job man ♥
Sounds spot-on. Thanks for this video.
This is literally almost perfect! Great job!
Incredible work. Maybe it was the goal-oriented format, but I learned more about my DM12 here than in dozens of tries trying to struggle through more comprehensive but super-long walkthroughs. Keep it up!
I always find example-driven tutorials more helpful than open-ended ones
Damn found your channel some week ago and your DM12 Tribute video where you said you were to sell it, now this just popped up and both are some of the best tutorials of the DM12 I’ve seen, but most of all I’m amazed how good sounding patches you made; you really should consider creating a patch set and sell it, I’m not kidding when I say it’s among the best DM12 patches I’ve ever heard.
Thanks, I appreciate you! Definitely glad I didn't end up selling the DM12. I have been exploring ways to sell patches and help people learn the synth so keep an eye out!
Count me in $$$ are ready 👍🏼👍🏼
I’m gonna need a full deepmind course. You’re an incredible teacher, you’re extremely clear and your explanation make perfect sense. I don’t even own this synth nor have I heard the song but I’m enjoying this tutorial 😁 sub’d
Thanks for the kind words!
YESSSS Help me utilize the full potential of this machine! Keep these coming. Thank you!
Great tutorial, explaining not only how the patch is done in this particularly synth, but what each thing you're doing is trying to achieve.
Saw another comment that you want to sell patches: if you make patch packs tied to these tutorials, you both build an audience for tutorials and target specifically people that would be interested. So, a Radiohead pack, or even just a Kid A pack.
Definitely going to use this approach for future videos, have some ideas lined up already. Thanks for the insight!
Excellent. Great work. Great Deep Mind demo too.
If this is layered with a faint rhodes to get that ring, I feel like you just recreated the sound in whole. Great job.
Nailed it. Great breakdown
Fantastic tutorial. Id love to see more patch creations even if its less elaborate as this one!
That’s the plan! Keep an eye out for more in the future
Man it's crazy how much that fair comp dialed in the sound perfectly. That was a genuine "Holy Shit" moment for me. Good job
I had the exact same reaction and immediately went to comments to see if I was alone
Haha I had the same Aha moment while making the patch, couldn’t quite dial it in until I tried compression
Awesome video, you nailed it
Truly impressive well done 👍
Thank you!
Dope video, can't wait to make some patches with this idea!
Have fun!
Awesome video! Fun fact last year I bought an old Italian electric organ/piano called the Crumar DP50. Looking it up online it seems a few people think it's actually the sound used for "Everything In It's Right Place". I tried experimenting a bit and the claims are quite promising, one of the presets sounds really close, and with the manual settings you can get even closer. In any case regardless how they did it you got really close with the Deepmind, so great job! Also shows off how versatile of a synth it is!
I have seen some info online about the DP50 too, definitely a plausible theory! I heard a few recreations of the Everything patch using the Prophet 5 that sounded incredibly close to the original (just in mono, of course), so that was enough to convince me personally.
@@jakubdomine you made it sound very close!
Mate, you are a genius!❤🫶🏼
Subbed for more DM12 please!
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Wow, amazing thank you!
Sounds great!
Awesome tutorial. MORE PLEASE!!! DeepMind 12 is a monster. Thanks 💙💛💙💛💙💛
Thank you, I’m on it!
Nicely done!!
I don’t even have a deepmind but that was pretty impressive! Absolutely love this sound
Nailed it
Wow! I knew that with the compression, you could get a totally new sound, but here you got a totally new synth!!! I have heard many complaints from D12 users about its supposedly weak sound; I am sure they haven't tried the compression fx at the end of the chain...
Good sound design on the DM12 usually requires some use and understanding of the FX. The synth can sound a little thin at times, mostly when only using 1 osc per voice.
ty for increasing the value of my dp12
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This sound is EPIC. Always thought it was a Fender Rodhes though. Funny
great job
😭it’s perfect
Great video!
Thank you! Love your tiktok page btw, your chops are insane
aww man thanks so much! :)@@jakubdomine
the goat
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oh this... this is... a fucking banger
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well done 🎹
I respect the tapco s8 speakers, hidden gems
Definitely underrated, only drawback is that they’re SO heavy
@@jakubdomine true, i have the s5 monitors for casual producing and listening and they look out of proportional heavy😂
You are great!! 🎉
Thank you!
hell yeah dude
Really great tutorial. I clicked expecting just a performance but I came away with a lot of information on sound design.
Glad it was informative!
You nailed it. Great sound design. I have the Deep Mind 12 and my only complaint is the screen is too small for my eyes and editing sounds. Great job on this track.😊
the ipad app is a total game changer!
Amazinggggg
xo from Arg
Nice patch altough I'm inclined to say recording the same part twice adds to the organic feel which I feel is present in the song, unless they actually used midi and I'm completely wrong hehe
I’m almost certain they used MIDI in the original recording. The Prophet 5 shown in session photos is modded to use MIDI. If you want a more organic sound than the one I got, you could add some parameter drift and oscillator drift (in the Poly edit menu) to make the L and R voices sound even more separated
i hope can buy this sinth this year
You wont regret it! It’s one of the best gear purchases I’ve made
Great video and tutorial, makes me wish more an more to have a DeepMind12... With your experience, do you recommend this synth as a overall synth to make presets from famous songs from 80's and 90's songs?
Thanks and keep doing this awesome content videos :)
Thanks for the kind words! And I’d say so, just about anything you can do on the Juno 106 is possible on the DM12. However if you’re looking for more of a Yamaha DX7 FM sound, the DM12 might not be the thing for you.
You Danish name-brother has the same synth. Great video! Greeting from Jakob :)
All these Jacobs in the world just don’t get us…
@@jakubdomine Losers :)
taking a bong hit every time he says mod matrix
I made this Patch on the Sequential REV2 while I discovered it's binaural possibility's, it was pretty easy.
Oh yeah, the Rev2 would make this pretty straightforward as well! Would love to own one someday
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I don’t even play piano why did I watch this whole video
Listening to the original i can hear that the left and right side have different filter modulation. I don't know if it's possible on the DM12, but i would make two patches, pan one hard left and the other hard right. One patch could have filter modulated by the mod wheel and the other with a different controller. I would offset the pitch subtly on one of the patches, maybe by dialing in some tuning instability/analog feel.
You could achieve this by just mapping Uni Voice to osc pitch fine tune or filter cutoff/env depth to create a larger difference between the two sides. That’s the power of the Uni Voice source!
That was sick. I'll cancel the order on the super 6 then.
The Super 6 is on my wishlist too!
6 day update, binural deep mind 12 cured my g.a.s and got me pregnant
6:16 Knight Rider theme vibes.
Less talk more rock
This is a tutorial video, this video is probably more up your alley: ua-cam.com/video/dQw4w9WgXcQ/v-deo.htmlsi=mvmhOHaEBkvmLRSI
I reckon the smallest bit of parameter drift would have been a nice cherry on top.
I think it would mess up the VCF intonation quite a bit. Even with no drift the VCFs are never perfectly in tune
@@jakubdomine Yeah good point actually
@@j-b-l8147 wait sorry haha I thought you were replying the new video about using VCFs as soundsources, parameter drift would probably sound good on this patch
@@jakubdomine That's so funny, I was a little confused but I agreed because I literally just watched the vcf oscillator video 😆
Hey dude, I was born in Hartford City, IN. My DM12 encoder went bad after a year and I took it apart and tried to fix it and was shocked to see it was all worn down inside.
Hey fellow Hoosier! Are you talking about the control knob in the center? Mine’s always been janky, seems like lots of people online have issues with it too
Ok, right.
3:00 The way the voice LED's light up are in no way related to where the sound is in the stereo image, like you insinuated. It only shows which voicecards are activated at that time, be it left , right , or mono.....They just happened to correspond to the sides for a few times. As you can clearly see, the third time you played, some on the left and some on the right lit up....All a matter of chance (internal timing)
Lower voicenumbers to the left, higher to the right is definitely NOT a rule of thumb, more a question of "luck". Had numerous times that is is just "the other way around".
If that was true, the voices(numbers) would be walking/moving from left to right at 3:55.
I'd encourage you to read the DM12 manual, as all of my info on the Pan Spread parameter came directly from there. The voice chips are selected according to internal voice allocation logic, but the voice chip numbers themselves absolutely influence the stereo position when the Pan Spread parameter is used. I did not claim that the Pan Spread LEDs are used to indicate stereo position all the time, they only show which voice numbers are being used, and when Pan Spread is activated it uses that same voice number information to place voices in the stereo field. The only "luck" involved is exactly which voices are allocated with each new key press (I'm fairly sure it's actually deterministic, though not something we can really control as users). At 3:55, I've turned off Pan Spread and am instead using an LFO to modulate the VCA Pan mod destination, so the voice LEDs no longer correspond to stereo position at that point.
It 7:59 tickles!
Can I do that patch with deep mind 6?
Why do your modwheels not have paint on them. my deepmind 12 has the same wheels except the tops are painted black and it wears off and looks like shit. is yours just a newer version?
I think mine’s just newer, yeah. I hear lots of people had issues w the mod wheel paint so Behringer probably just stopped adding it
I really wish you demo'd at the proper tempo but amazing work.
Hey you're in Indianapolis, have you been to Knobcon?
I have not! Will have to check it out
If money didn’t matter, deep mind 12 or Juno X?
To each his own, but I'm leaving because I can't find the part where he plays Radiohead on the Deepmind 12
17:19
Just check the description next time, I always write video chapters there.
That's good, thanks@@jakubdomine
Can you do one on Burn the Witch!?
I think an expression pedal opening up the filter instead of the mod wheel might yield a better performance, because this tune requires two hands to perform…so you could get a smoother opening while not missing any beats of the riff.
Definitely agree, wish I had an expression pedal for this reason.
Dude.... I have this synth but my god....
dude, it was just the Rhodes...
Envelope still sounds a bit clicky but otherwise sounds good.
Thanks! My first take on the patch had a much softer click, but the original track has such a prominent clicky attack that I had to turn it up to match.
@@jakubdomine True but the click on the original has a different quality to it.
Did he get to playing...?
Check the description, I wrote video chapters with timestamps. I play a short demo with the patch at the end of the video.
Too poppy envelopes
My first take on the patch had a much softer click, but the original track has such a prominent clicky attack that I felt that I had to turn it up to match.
Huh? You clearly CAN create that stereo depth on a Prophet 5 … because that is what is used on the original recording.
And it’s extremely easy to do now with modern Prophet 5’s, Rev 2, Prophet 6, OB-6, etc.-and lots of other non-Sequential synths-because of Midi.
More importantly, it will sound more accurate because Behringer doesn’t cut it if you want the real deal. For most sounds, including this one, you would be better off using a good soft-synth like Diva to get a more accurate sound. The DeepMind is good at getting in the ballpark, but it never nails the actual vibe or tone when you try to match it up to real synths like the Juno, or the Pro 5 in this demo.
In every demo of the DeepMind I’ve seen where a classic song or sound is recreated, the DeepMind has never satisfied. I would prefer a soft synth 100% of the time.
On the other hand, if you just use the DeepMind to make new sounds and treat it like it’s own synth, I think it would be much more successful for that purpose. Its buzzy mid range sound keeps it from achieving warm, vintage sounds, but it might have some use as a stand-alone modern synth?
But if you want to re-create classic sounds, or be inspired in that way, the DeepMind will fail every time, much like it does here.
Of course overdubbing 2 P5 recordings would sound closer; I never claim that the DM12 captures the timbre of the Everything patch better than a P5 does. The whole point of my video is that the DM12 lets you emulate the stereo width of the sound in real time with a single, playable patch and without overdubbing.
Suggesting that the DM12 isn’t a real synth makes you sound like the type of tw4t that listens with their eyes. But I’m sure that’s not the case.
I used to own a JP8 and JP6, if I could go back in time and grab them, they’d be up for sale in an instant. Massively overrated for what they are. Unless you’re a collector.
Some of the old synths were amazing, but not much more so than modern cheaper synths.
@@jakubdomine ignore the haters bro. I was skeptical as to how close you could get with the dm12 and the end result blew my mind! Awesome demonstration.
You use your eyebrows a bit too much to pretend to make facial expressions