Stephen A. & Mad Dog Russo get HEATED debating Steph Curry's legacy & the NBA Finals | First Take

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  • Stephen A. & Mad Dog Russo get HEATED debating Steph Curry's legacy & the NBA Finals | First Take
    Stephen A. Smith and Chris "Mad Dog" Russo debate how the 2022 NBA Finals will impact Steph Curry's legacy.
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  • @kwhitevuu99
    @kwhitevuu99 2 роки тому +468

    Steph and Giannis the only players I've seen average 25 in a finals with a knee ligament injury and they still get trashed 😂

    • @imaginehavingalimit
      @imaginehavingalimit 2 роки тому +38

      Steph played with the avengers to beat one man

    • @kwhitevuu99
      @kwhitevuu99 2 роки тому +69

      @@imaginehavingalimit LeBron hand picked his team and had refs on his side. Relax... Man was out here tackling people without a foul call

    • @imaginehavingalimit
      @imaginehavingalimit 2 роки тому +37

      @@kwhitevuu99 he didn’t hand pick those Cavs teams, y’all say stuff without knowing. Like LeBron wanted his second best player being gorge hill😐

    • @Theyaintme_cb6
      @Theyaintme_cb6 2 роки тому +1

      This is sports nobody cares about injuries, every player is dealing with some type of injury at this point so keep that same energy for the Celtics because Marcus Smart got a bad ankle, Tatum has a injured left risk and Robert Williams playing on a bad knee

    • @wasifchowdhury6913
      @wasifchowdhury6913 2 роки тому +14

      Steph is the most overrated player guy has no defense, has no handles, turns over the ball on and can't carry his team to the final single-handedly like LeBron or giannis. All he does is shoot threes. If he's having a bad night, he's basically deadweight to the team this year. The only reason why they're even in the finals is due to people like Jordan pool and other people on his team that are averaging 15 to 20 points a night

  • @dohertyz
    @dohertyz 2 роки тому +120

    "Can we get Skip Bayless?"
    Mom: "We have Skip Bayless at home!"
    Skip Bayless at home:

  • @jjackson59100
    @jjackson59100 2 роки тому +168

    People like Mad Dog are the reason I think the media voting for sports awards is bs.

    • @Theyaintme_cb6
      @Theyaintme_cb6 2 роки тому +20

      - Triggered Warriors and Steph Curry fan boy 😂

    • @weltonsouder9311
      @weltonsouder9311 2 роки тому

      I agree with you, but who should vote then? I don’t think players or coaches would vote honestly either.

    • @goatkobe9037
      @goatkobe9037 2 роки тому +2

      @@Theyaintme_cb6 4-6 lmfao 🤡

    • @user-bx8vr9jq7v
      @user-bx8vr9jq7v 2 роки тому +1

      lmao mad dog is right

    • @d.a.6293
      @d.a.6293 2 роки тому +1

      True but i think It would've been worse with ex players voting tbf

  • @SSJRome
    @SSJRome 2 роки тому +122

    Media not giving Steph FMVP in 2015 fucked up basketball discourse and gave light to so many terrible narratives.

    • @teezy9790
      @teezy9790 2 роки тому +31

      It’s actually despicable when you think about. Knowing how hard it is to to make it to the finals and win championships.
      They gave it to iggy assuming the warriors would be back and Steph will have other opportunities to win. Even tho steph was clearly the best player and closer on the court for his team

    • @SSJRome
      @SSJRome 2 роки тому +13

      @@teezy9790 and if he wins it this year i think they’ll still say it was a “ easy path “

    • @spazz8682
      @spazz8682 2 роки тому +3

      He ain't deserve it plain and simple iguodala the one who made the clutch plays and defense on lebron Steph was getting outplayed by delavadova most the series

    • @trickstergamer3383
      @trickstergamer3383 2 роки тому +1

      @@spazz8682 one iggy was able to make clutch shots cause of Steph letting defense leave him open and him guarding Lebron is a joke as Lebron still average 30+ which everyone wanted to give Lebron the award even tho he was on the losing team. The guy who should have won it is Steph cause besides Lebron Steph was the best player in that series and on the team

    • @fsch123
      @fsch123 2 роки тому +11

      @@spazz8682 Yeah he held LeBron to 36 points per game, really locked him up

  • @tommyanderson1748
    @tommyanderson1748 2 роки тому +41

    He up here calling Stephen a his “little buddy”. 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @johnbyrnes3790
    @johnbyrnes3790 2 роки тому +43

    stephen A is right. everyone is talking about the 2015 warriors as if they were the modern day warriors. they were absolutely kids that had no experience in the finals and still beat the best modern player of our time in lebron. also, if the roles were reversed and the warriors played without steph and klay, and the cavs won that series, would these talking heads call it a fluke win like the do for the dubs? the disrespect leveled at Steph is ridiculous

    • @YashRamisetty
      @YashRamisetty 2 роки тому +1

      Of course if the stars were out for warriors and Cavs won, we’d say well they got lucky.

    • @mynutsonyourchin2806
      @mynutsonyourchin2806 2 роки тому

      Without the weakest move in nba history curry would only have 1 ring, therefore curry with 4 rings and 1fmvp he’s top 14 behind Isaiah Thomas and Olajuwon don’t listen to these bought takes

  • @abielhebrew8393
    @abielhebrew8393 2 роки тому +74

    So we just gonna forget how KD lost to Curry at OKC after a 3-1 lead in 2016 with Westbrook, Ibaka and Adams? 🤷‍♂ Cmon now..

    • @rabbijoe316
      @rabbijoe316 2 роки тому +20

      This gets skipped over so often, and i don't understand why either.
      Steph only gets blame for the 3-1 he lost against an MVP with a squad. No credit for overcoming the 3-1 deficit against 2 MVPs.
      Makes sense.

    • @abielhebrew8393
      @abielhebrew8393 2 роки тому +2

      @@rabbijoe316 I would like to see what narrative they come up with next if he wins another chip and a finals MVP. Maybe they gonna critisize him for not breaking the all time 3's record or not shooting a dam full court shot in the finals lmao these analysts man I swear .. 🤦‍♂

    • @mav7079
      @mav7079 2 роки тому +1

      bunch of bums are just jealous of curry. that's all.

    • @julianbrown951
      @julianbrown951 2 роки тому

      Steph led Warriors in scoring 3 of 4 games in 2018 and scored 37 in the close out game. He got robbed all bc of game 3. He hit the go ahead 3 in game 3 too. No one brings this up

    • @mynutsonyourchin2806
      @mynutsonyourchin2806 2 роки тому

      Doesn’t matter the Durants warriors still happened, therefore curry with 4 rings and 1fmvp is top 14 behind Isaiah Thomas and Olajuwon

  • @chuckontal9962
    @chuckontal9962 2 роки тому +208

    These analysts never mention how tyronn lue has said the focus of their defense was to blitz curry. Durant went off (in part) because of the gravity that curry plays with. Couldn't stop both and they chose to stop curry so curry did what a good pg should do, let the other guy go off. Think curry averages like 26 6 n 6 or something in the finals.

    • @NbaXmixtapes
      @NbaXmixtapes 2 роки тому +8

      So u say curry was the reason kd could shoot over people n play defense n finish at the rim bc that seems like talent too me

    • @sidenote1459
      @sidenote1459 2 роки тому +9

      Look I have respect for curry, but people act like the other teams dont do that to Kobe, LeBron MJ and all the other all time greats. So idk why "he was heavily defended" counts for anything when most other star players have to deal with that and find ways to take over.

    • @yblinkk9264
      @yblinkk9264 2 роки тому +1

      That was 2016

    • @jaovao
      @jaovao 2 роки тому +14

      @@NbaXmixtapes KD had that talent in OKC but that’s wasn’t enough. 😂

    • @andrewbathish9265
      @andrewbathish9265 2 роки тому +1

      Why does that matter if he was doubled or noy

  • @tracyswrld6331
    @tracyswrld6331 2 роки тому +203

    It’s funny how people talk about the cavs being injured but won’t talk about it when it happened to the warriors in 2016 or how they would have won against the raptors even with no kd if klay just didn’t get hurt but no kawhi was getting all the praise in the world for beating a hurt team

    • @nicolasacosta1992
      @nicolasacosta1992 2 роки тому +26

      Horrible comparison

    • @user-bx8vr9jq7v
      @user-bx8vr9jq7v 2 роки тому

      you’re a moron steph curry lover i can tell

    • @jackdamenace13
      @jackdamenace13 2 роки тому +5

      Kinda like how they tried to discount the finals runs last season but want to act like Middleton being injured and the Suns choking in game 7 weren’t a big deal.

    • @nbatalk714
      @nbatalk714 2 роки тому +26

      Gsw was up 3-1 .. injuries had nothing to do wit it then.. if you wanna go there gsw played jokic this year no murray or porter, grizzlies ja was injured as well

    • @bhaskaran2126
      @bhaskaran2126 2 роки тому +14

      Lol 2016 they were not injured 😂😂

  • @King-QueenHalen
    @King-QueenHalen 2 роки тому +160

    Klay was also hurt in Toronto. In Cleveland, Draymond was suspended for a game and Steph was ejected in another.
    Edit: To be clear I’m mentioning these because Steph seems to be the only who gets his accomplishments downplayed because of circumstances. I pointed these out as not excuses as to why they didn’t win, but to point out Steph and the Warriors have also had circumstances that helped opposing teams. Had they not happened maybe things go differently or maybe they stay the same. My only point was to point out Warriors have circumstances as well

    • @quicko1418
      @quicko1418 2 роки тому +19

      Curry got ejected in the last 2 minutes draymond getting suspended would not stop them getting blown out by 20 in that game lol

    • @brooklynblack9015
      @brooklynblack9015 2 роки тому +8

      Excuses excuses lol 😂

    • @Jo-fk1be
      @Jo-fk1be 2 роки тому +7

      @@quicko1418 iguodala and bogut got hurt that game along with the fact draymond missed the game...

    • @Theyaintme_cb6
      @Theyaintme_cb6 2 роки тому +10

      The game was already out of reach when Curry got ejected

    • @derbyking8475
      @derbyking8475 2 роки тому +3

      @@Jo-fk1be those guys ain’t Kyrie and love lol u can’t name role players as excuses 2015 Kyrie love 2017 kawhi 2018 cp3

  • @n.l793
    @n.l793 2 роки тому +27

    Kd in Nba finals
    With Steph : 8-1
    Without Steph: 1-4

    • @robinilouga
      @robinilouga 2 роки тому

      9-1? Thought it was 8-1

    • @jadengrant6063
      @jadengrant6063 2 роки тому

      @@robinilouga probably meant playoff series

    • @robinilouga
      @robinilouga 2 роки тому

      @@jadengrant6063 yeah that might be true

    • @spazz8682
      @spazz8682 2 роки тому

      @@jadengrant6063 clearly says nba finals

    • @JariusKnows
      @JariusKnows 2 роки тому

      @@robinilouga he played 1 game in the Toronto series even though he left with an injury, so 9-1

  • @williamjohnson5997
    @williamjohnson5997 2 роки тому +4

    Worst thing about people like mad dog is that they are in charge of voting for awards. Sports media needs a serious overhaul

  • @thegalacticnugget7474
    @thegalacticnugget7474 2 роки тому +46

    2016 steph was playing with a sprained mcl and 3 other starters were hurt, stop ignoring the 2016 injuries and bringing up the 2015 injuries

    • @dylanallen7720
      @dylanallen7720 2 роки тому +8

      The injuries for the warriors were obviously not near at detrimental to them as the injuries to the cavs in 2015. Don’t over sell it.

    • @TRiXz_2K
      @TRiXz_2K 2 роки тому +8

      The reason why it’s completely different is because they had a 3-1 lead prior to the injuries. All they had to do is win ONE GAME just one. With 2015 Kyrie played 1 game and KLove didn’t play a single game in the finals. Those two situations aren’t comparable

    • @Shemzinho
      @Shemzinho 2 роки тому +8

      Shh that goes against the casual’s narrative

    • @Isaiahlovelace
      @Isaiahlovelace 2 роки тому +1

      😂😂people making excuses for 2016 now, nah bruh dont start that… not even finna argue about why that is not the same

    • @vaheed7518
      @vaheed7518 2 роки тому +5

      @@dylanallen7720 THANK YOU. People acting like Steph missed THE ENTIRE SERIES like Love and Kyrie did in 2015.

  • @FloorGeneral00
    @FloorGeneral00 2 роки тому +4

    Bron has been to the finals 10 times and lost 6 of them, people never wanna bring that up, Kd wasn’t gonna win anything until he joined curry- kd needed them not the other way around, can’t take anything away from curry just because his organization is great at developing talent. Curry never needed to leave his team of join a stacked team in order to win a chip where as others did

    • @theprodigy7002
      @theprodigy7002 2 роки тому

      Context is important nobody was going to beat the KD warriors and LeBron lost Kyrie in 2015 so that's 3 rings LeBron missed out on Curry is lucky.

  • @HikikomoriRen
    @HikikomoriRen 2 роки тому +26

    Stephen A. has a great point at the end of this video. People are looking at the Warriors who won the chip in 2015 like they we're already a proven team. No they weren't at that time. And even the Cavs at that time lost Kyrie and Love, they faced a "LeBron James" team. That's a PRIME James.

    • @greg7574
      @greg7574 2 роки тому

      bron was in his prime at 30? u don’t know basketball 😂😂

    • @zionchism8993
      @zionchism8993 2 роки тому +10

      @@greg7574 27 to 32 years of age is the average NBA players prime.....What are you on about?

  • @wjwhwh
    @wjwhwh 2 роки тому +24

    Little did they know all of these Steph Curry debates are about to unlock a whole new beast in the Finals..

    • @QuanLovesGaming
      @QuanLovesGaming 2 роки тому +10

      I doubt it.

    • @spottedlionartorias9899
      @spottedlionartorias9899 2 роки тому

      Lol Steph always good when he got the way better team

    • @trickstergamer3383
      @trickstergamer3383 2 роки тому +1

      It’s funny cause they talk about Steph but out of every player in the league you never hear a word from Steph about how he feels about these topics

    • @spottedlionartorias9899
      @spottedlionartorias9899 2 роки тому

      @@trickstergamer3383 yup Steph might have choking tendencies but he definitely don't have snowflake tendencies

    • @kaycgokuu2342
      @kaycgokuu2342 2 роки тому

      ​@@spottedlionartorias9899 this match-up is even this year what are you talking about? it's a 50-50 series them Cs had a tougher path to get to the finals and they hardened and play defense. As a warriors fan this can go either way

  • @KaMak719
    @KaMak719 2 роки тому +28

    The short answer is it doesn't. He's won championships and broken records. There are HOF'ers that do less. What really matters to his legacy is, what he does AFTER, if he losses the finals? Does he come back time and time again? Win some lose some? Does he continue to bring the best out of his teammates and play the way he always play?

    • @36firerahul
      @36firerahul 2 роки тому +1

      It does affect Curry in the rankings because he doesn't have a real ring. In 2015 the Cavs missed two of their top 3 players and Steph particularly underperformed in that series and he didn't even win finals MVP. 2016 was an all time choke job. 2017 and 2018 had Durant while playing way worse Cavs teams. If the warriors beat the Celtics and Steph performs well, that would absolutely be a huge needle mover for his legacy and in the all time rankings.

    • @cfhar080591
      @cfhar080591 2 роки тому +2

      @@36firerahul Steph Curry averaged 25.8 ppg that series. He easily deserved that FMVP

    • @36firerahul
      @36firerahul 2 роки тому +1

      @@cfhar080591 yeah while the Cavs missed 2 of their top 3 players. That is very impressive. I'm sorry but Curry has genuinely not proven he can be the lead guy in the playoffs.

    • @cfhar080591
      @cfhar080591 2 роки тому

      @@36firerahul Yeah because he's not doing anything in this year' playoffs

    • @KaMak719
      @KaMak719 2 роки тому

      @@36firerahul Instead of asking you rhetorically if Lebron's rings counts in Miami because Rondo's arm broke, or if his other rings count because Kyrie and Ray Allen hit those game winners? I'll just follow your logic that he doesn't have much of a legacy now anyways. So either way it doesn't matter. Like I said, he's made 6/8 finals, accomplished quite a few things for himself, this series will probably just be one of many he will have in his career. Reminder: Pretty sure GSW is down 2 to 3 crucial players at the moment.

  • @DuckFanDane
    @DuckFanDane 2 роки тому +8

    These analyst never talk about how the Cavaliers coach said that Curry was the best and most dangerous player and that’s why he was double-teamed there is no shame in Kevin Durant being a lesser player then curry. Curry is just a better player it’s OK. Curry actually goes up in statistics in the finals but it goes against the narrative

    • @mynutsonyourchin2806
      @mynutsonyourchin2806 2 роки тому

      Doesn’t matter the Durants warriors still happened for 3 years therefore curry with 4 rings and 1 fmvp is top 14 behind Isaiah Thomas and Olajuwon

  • @justinsanborn
    @justinsanborn 2 роки тому +12

    Same KD that lost to Celtics in round 1 with kyrie?

  • @n.dewayneb9258
    @n.dewayneb9258 2 роки тому +14

    I always say the same thing Steven a pointed out. Steph Curry played really well and the 2015 finals. He averaged 26.3 points per game and that finals. He doesn’t control the voting, therefore he wasn’t able to make them give him the trophy. Andre Iguodala averaged 16 points in that series, which is not bad at all. But he only won MVP because most voters cited the fact that the series shifted dramatically once he was inserted into the starting lineup. Am I opinion, Stephen Curry still should’ve won the MVP trophy that year. The fact that he didn’t shouldn’t be a knock against him.

    • @jasontyson3658
      @jasontyson3658 2 роки тому

      LeBron should have won on the losing team and Im not even a Bron fan. He was clearly light years ahead of every other player on the court, without him the Cavs would have lost every game that series. GS without Curry would have a legitimate chance of going at a bare minimum 7 games without him

    • @TopDrifter203
      @TopDrifter203 10 місяців тому

      @@jasontyson3658 nah

    • @jasontyson3658
      @jasontyson3658 10 місяців тому

      @@TopDrifter203 When the guy wins the MVP award because he was able to slow 1 guy down that shows how far ahead of every1 that 1 guy is

  • @teezy9790
    @teezy9790 2 роки тому +22

    Saying Iguodala deserved FMVP over steph cause is like saying
    Pippen deserved fmvp over Jordan
    Bruce Bowen deserves mvp over Duncan

    • @stephonaugustin1384
      @stephonaugustin1384 2 роки тому +4

      Bad comparison sorry

    • @spottedlionartorias9899
      @spottedlionartorias9899 2 роки тому +1

      Horrible comparison

    • @teezy9790
      @teezy9790 2 роки тому +5

      @@stephonaugustin1384 how? Your telling me that iggy defense on lebron was the turning point in the series win against Cleveland. Well then I can say the same for Scottie clamping up magic Johnson in 91

    • @Terror832
      @Terror832 2 роки тому

      Outside of a Westbrick-esque Game 2, Curry actually played very well in the series.
      Averaged 27.4 PPG on 49.5 FG% and 46.0 3PFG%.

    • @kero2526
      @kero2526 2 роки тому +1

      @@teezy9790 when you defend the only guy worth defending and actually do a good job, that's more valuable than scoring since Lebron was the only player they had to worry about and Iggy played great against him

  • @mr.m4087
    @mr.m4087 2 роки тому +11

    If KD is so good how come he lost to the Warriors while up 3-1? But I guess people only forget what the Warriors did. KD is so lethal that he couldn’t close out the warriors.

    • @jiggafromstatefarm9997
      @jiggafromstatefarm9997 2 роки тому

      Same Reason People Think That Lebron Is The Greatest When He Had One Of The Worst Playoff performances from a star in the finals

    • @Fraudkovic
      @Fraudkovic 2 роки тому

      Yeah y'all milk that one series where kd underperformed . He was facing a 73 win team. Why don't we milk how curry lost to 2nd year ja morant in the play in last year? If he's so good why did he lose back to back games against injured lakers and 9th seed ja morant.
      Not to mention he's been outplayed in every series by jokic ja and luka respectively

    • @zeroch1ll150
      @zeroch1ll150 Рік тому

      @@Fraudkovic 1 2 3 4 rings....Finals MVP! Go look at your self in the mirror. Ask your self why the hate is so real. Give the man his roses.

    • @Fraudkovic
      @Fraudkovic Рік тому

      @@zeroch1ll150 hate lmao. So it's OK to hate kd but you can't hate curry for the same reasons . Double standard as usual by curry stans.
      Also I don't hate curry. All of it is sports hate I'm sure he's a pretty good guy idk why bro acting like I'm going after his personal life.

  • @TheMarc477
    @TheMarc477 2 роки тому +3

    I hate these media guys man, warriors have been the best team in the west for the last 8 years

  • @Terror832
    @Terror832 2 роки тому +17

    I just looked up Mad Dogs bio and he’s 62 years old.
    Looks very young for his age.

  • @zelle_mewlion2266
    @zelle_mewlion2266 2 роки тому +5

    The disrespect to Stephen Curry smh 🤦‍♀️ . I can’t wait for this Finals series to start so everyone can just shut up.

  • @zeroch1ll150
    @zeroch1ll150 2 роки тому +16

    Curry has been to the finals 6 out of the last 8 years. Curry has been there every time.
    No one wants to give him his roses. Kevin Durant Doesn't get MVP without Curry.
    Look at what he did since he left. Curry still putting in work.
    Look at the team...they are back.
    KD with all his talent got SWEPT by Boston.

    • @leonardomoore1868
      @leonardomoore1868 2 роки тому

      Zero Ch1ll and gsw are not winning back 2 back w/o kd!

    • @iiiiiiii2625
      @iiiiiiii2625 2 роки тому

      @@leonardomoore1868 kd aint even back to the second round!

    • @zeroch1ll150
      @zeroch1ll150 2 роки тому +2

      @@leonardomoore1868 KD wins nothing without GS. It's not even a debate. GS was a champion before KD. Before all the injuries they where about to be crowned again. 👑
      Yall need to stop ✋️
      Curry is the only player that can make every player look better than they are just by stepping on the court.
      Look at every player that has left golden state. Besides KD, they all kinda disappear into the ether. KD won't win a ring either. He got his 2. He is great but he needs another super star and Kyrie ain't it.

    • @jarvisharding4403
      @jarvisharding4403 2 роки тому

      False

    • @jarvisharding4403
      @jarvisharding4403 2 роки тому

      The title they got before KD two of the key players on the other team were injured

  • @Itsouzy
    @Itsouzy 2 роки тому +2

    I like these 2 guys debating

  • @austinscanks7607
    @austinscanks7607 2 роки тому +11

    I love seeing these two debate it’s so entertaining 🍿👏🏻

  • @pabloramos420
    @pabloramos420 2 роки тому +3

    Bob Cousy 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @lrh-js6od
    @lrh-js6od 2 роки тому +6

    Aint no way steven a smith just violated a man and said “god rest his soul” in the same sentence

  • @Fosterdid
    @Fosterdid 2 роки тому

    The heck was the "bar of soap" shower stuff about too lol sort of a disastrous segment, but I love it all the same

  • @jayz6706
    @jayz6706 Рік тому +1

    Molly and SAS looking at each other when this dude started talking about dropping the soap and showers is priceless

  • @ekowbotchway482
    @ekowbotchway482 2 роки тому +2

    These are the same analyst! Even before curry’s entry into the nba ! Said he wouldn’t make it. Now ! We sit here to talk about his legacy which is funny.

  • @JohnnyTomala33
    @JohnnyTomala33 2 роки тому

    The graphic was wrong. It was 2015 NBA Finals Game 6.

  • @tk_drako
    @tk_drako 2 роки тому +1

    In 2016 Draymond got suspended and Bogut and Steph were hurt among a few other injuries on that team.

  • @darindthomas
    @darindthomas 2 роки тому +18

    If I could draft KD or Steph in their primes, I’m taking Steph, and it was an easy decision. Steph is much harder to game plan for

    • @alb4271
      @alb4271 2 роки тому

      Lol nah.

    • @TRILLTALKTV
      @TRILLTALKTV 2 роки тому +1

      steph is not that guy without klay the last 2 years proved it

    • @TWIZZIS
      @TWIZZIS Рік тому

      @@TRILLTALKTV imagine says that Curry is not that guy😮‍💨😂

  • @Shemzinho
    @Shemzinho 2 роки тому +24

    Steph benefitted from injuries in 2015. The Cavs and Raptors benefitted from injuries in 2016 and 2019. But they only mention 2015.

    • @cordo.
      @cordo. 2 роки тому +1

      warriors were up 3-1 in 16, they coulda rested. 2016 cavs were MISSING their 2 best players. they weren’t playing while still injured. 2019 raptors ONLY won because of injuries, not the same case in 2016

    • @look-at-curry-man2206
      @look-at-curry-man2206 2 роки тому +3

      @@cordo. If drey doesn't get suspended we winning tha series

    • @nickv3740
      @nickv3740 2 роки тому +1

      @@cordo. how is the 2019 finals not the same comparison? The Warriors had two of their stars hurt just like the 2015 Cavs. You and your anti Warriors bias smh.

  • @SavedPulley
    @SavedPulley 2 роки тому +4

    KD would have trouble guarding Curry. Stop playing. We know KD is great but u have to give respect and honor where its due. Stop limiting curry. Kd isnt doubled and triple teamed like curry. If we are only talking offensive scoring, regardless of how its done whether by height inside or out, Curry is just as good as KD, some could argue more lethal

    • @therightopinion4619
      @therightopinion4619 2 роки тому

      Agree but you start out with KD would have trouble gaurding Steph? Lol Steph has no shot at guarding KD 😂

  • @donaldamponsah2560
    @donaldamponsah2560 2 роки тому +1

    Ummm the graphic says 2016..that lineup was from 2015

  • @lynnwhyjae
    @lynnwhyjae 2 роки тому +3

    It would be amazing if you could choose what team you played in the Finals. These analyst are wild. They will talk about how Lebron dominated the East, but then say look at the lineup that the Warriors got to face in the Finals. You can only play who is on the schedule lol.

  • @Stonecoldalston
    @Stonecoldalston 2 роки тому +2

    2015 NBA Finals
    GM 1
    Curry
    26 & 8
    Clutch down the stretch
    Iggy
    15 & 3
    GM 2
    Curry
    19 6 & 5
    Iggy
    7 6 & 5
    GM 3
    Steph
    27 6 6 & 3 steals struggled in the first half
    Going 1-6 Second Half he scored 24 64% FG 66% from 3
    Iggy
    15 5 & 5 Iggy in that Second half had 5
    When the game was still winnable
    GM 4
    Steph
    22 & 7 47% FG 57% from 3 7 points in the 4th Quarter
    Iggy
    22 & 8 53% FG 44% from 3 6 points in the 4th
    GM 5
    Steph 37 7 rebounds 4 assists
    56% FG 53 % from 3 17 Points In the 4th
    Iggy 14 points 7 assists 8 Rebounds 45% FG 40% from 3 6 points in the 4th
    GM 6
    Steph
    25 Points 8 assists 6 rebounds 3 steals
    27% from 3 but still 13 Points In the 4th Quarter in which he shot 50% from 3
    Iggy
    25 Points 5 & 5 & 2 steals
    8 points in the 4th

    • @goldensniper8274
      @goldensniper8274 2 роки тому

      Curry should've clearly won fmvp in 2015, NBA messed up for real, imagine if it was someone like Luka instead of Curry averaging those numbers on that Warriors team he would've got the fmvp without a doubt

    • @Stonecoldalston
      @Stonecoldalston 2 роки тому

      @@goldensniper8274 definitely they only gave it to Iggy for the narrative that he slowed down LeBron which isn't even true

  • @gradymckinney7306
    @gradymckinney7306 Рік тому

    Lookin at lineup is crazy... Out of the 5 players who are u really counting on to get buckets? .. Mozgov and Thompson with delly

  • @mavxyz123
    @mavxyz123 2 роки тому

    How about discussing the finals and the strategy each team should use instead of looking for cheap hot takes ?

  • @pbjsquad5696
    @pbjsquad5696 Рік тому

    We need more of mad dog tho

  • @HellaADZ
    @HellaADZ 2 роки тому +3

    Warriors are the only team that’s held accountable for other teams injuries. Lol

  • @bxkid16
    @bxkid16 2 роки тому

    Lol these 2 are perfect together man

  • @Just1n1sK1ng
    @Just1n1sK1ng 2 роки тому +1

    Wasn’t that the 2015 Finals ?

  • @SEDRICKHENDRIXTHEGAMER
    @SEDRICKHENDRIXTHEGAMER 2 роки тому

    did they even talk about the gervonta ko at all?

  • @tobi3k
    @tobi3k 2 роки тому

    Stats from game 6 are from NBA Finals 2015, not 2016

  • @jimboslice727
    @jimboslice727 2 роки тому

    I f’n love these guys😂😂😂

  • @thekrazyhatter5063
    @thekrazyhatter5063 Рік тому

    I think they just struck gold with this duo

  • @dizzy8175
    @dizzy8175 2 роки тому +1

    Same storyline for days. ESPN is unwatchable until the games actually start.

  • @jmag579
    @jmag579 2 роки тому

    Dig the Mr Furley suit on Mad dog 😄

  • @dipsetny9291
    @dipsetny9291 2 роки тому +1

    ESPN got the 2016 Finals with Andre Iguodala as Finals MVP! That’s wrong! Get it together ESPN!

  • @isaiahbrown7925
    @isaiahbrown7925 2 роки тому +1

    What about klay not being there when kd isnt there stat means nothing where’s new media ?

  • @ChrisLehPooh
    @ChrisLehPooh 2 роки тому

    i remember when y’all was calling matt dellavedova the curry stopper😂😂😂. cavs we’re bad but any team missing option 2&3 is gonna be bad.

  • @JoeMama-tl4tr
    @JoeMama-tl4tr 2 роки тому +4

    Mad Dog “ another title would be great for curry but he ain’t passing up Bob Cousy”

    • @jestoril75
      @jestoril75 2 роки тому +1

      if he said that he should never be allowed to first take again 🤦🏽‍♂️ what is goin on? 🤣🤣🤣

  • @cw1229
    @cw1229 2 роки тому +2

    How they discredit curry for beating a hurt Cavs team but praise KD for joining Steph after losing to him?

  • @youngmoneyyy118
    @youngmoneyyy118 2 роки тому +2

    Before clicking on this I knew Mad Dog would be shitting on Curry

  • @brandonw6139
    @brandonw6139 2 роки тому +1

    You can only play who's infront of you

  • @markwootson5550
    @markwootson5550 2 роки тому +7

    that cavs team 2015 roster was pretty good defensively Delevadova almost saved that series he was balling.

    • @zacharygodfrey874
      @zacharygodfrey874 2 роки тому +4

      Balling putting up 7.5 points per game and shooting 28% 😂

  • @veltribrothers3925
    @veltribrothers3925 2 роки тому +1

    Why is this guy hating on steph. Steph never gets a call or the respect he deserves

  • @TheGallant9
    @TheGallant9 2 роки тому +6

    Steph was injured in 2016, 2017 and 2019 and the fact that the media tries to minimize him to a great shooter who Choked is Crazy. Like he ain't been hitting Clutch Buzzer Beaters his whole career

  • @ShutThePuck
    @ShutThePuck 2 роки тому +1

    Why is it that pointing out injuries and suspension in 2016 is excuses but pointing out injuries in 2015 isn't? Both teams traded the titles they should have won, stop making excuses, attrition is part of the competition, you get injured on the way that's just how it goes.

  • @jperson03
    @jperson03 2 роки тому

    Chris sounds like the Principal from Problem Child

  • @jacquonf4925
    @jacquonf4925 2 роки тому

    I forgot how bad that Cavs lineup was until they posted it on the screen🤣🤣🤣

  • @innovatorinternational3688
    @innovatorinternational3688 2 роки тому

    The history for me!

  • @dannyecorprew26
    @dannyecorprew26 2 роки тому

    What are KDs stats without Steph? Because I think that is also a fair way to look at his legacy- the hardware that he brought to people that wouldn't have got one without him

  • @thethrowaway4756
    @thethrowaway4756 2 роки тому +1

    They keep talking about legacy as if 30 is retiring lol

  • @rldsmith86
    @rldsmith86 2 роки тому

    You know who really loves all these crazy debates about his life; W. Stephen Curry II. Every time someone tells him he can't...he does! Every time one door closes he takes full advantage of the open window and when he does he turns mediocre into greatness; Davidson College, Golden State Warriors, Under Armour the list goes on.

  • @WangazWarrior
    @WangazWarrior 2 роки тому +1

    Lol can bring up the warriors not winning at home doesn’t mention the draymond suspension and injuries but in 2015 oh they were injured

  • @Benjamin-fc9ww
    @Benjamin-fc9ww 2 роки тому +2

    These analysts really keep using injuries as a reason to diminish Steph’s accomplishments. Players get injured everyday, it’s not a valid reason. If that’s the case then almost everyone’s title should be diminished. It’s a ridiculous argument.

    • @MrOctober44
      @MrOctober44 2 роки тому

      Actually it isn't. Beating a Cavs team with no Love or Kyrie was a cake walk. Plenty of people think that way.

  • @bo2395
    @bo2395 2 роки тому +1

    lmao I've had this Curry debate with many people in-person; no one has stopped me yet, so I dare anyone who agrees with Doggie to try:
    In 2016, Curry sustains an MCL Sprain in game 4 of round 1. For the rest of the postseason, he struggles to drive left, always having to shuffle his feet and push off his left leg (which isn't natural). He can't sprint around screens or back-cut effectively. He looks regressed physically and I watched those games. He resorts to being a sharpshooter the entire playoffs and when he tries to go left, he redirects back to his right. In those Finals, the Cavs defensive game plan was to force him left every time knowing he couldn't and double teamed him.
    The Warriors went up 3-1 because they straight up were the better team. It took a bogus suspension of their DPOY in a pivotal game 5, their 7ft rim protector Bogut being out for games 5, 6, 7, and the reigning finals MVP having back problems to shift the momentum back to the Cavs. I give them all the credit for making the comeback but I don't use that to diminish Curry. He did as well as he could, took contested 3s all postseason, lived and died by them, and lost in Game 7 of the NBA Finals by 4 points. All while playing through injury and not making it an excuse.
    Compare him to his first ever NBA finals where he was healthy and its like night and day.
    I DARE U TO LOOK UP: Stephen Curry Full Game 4 Highlights at Cavaliers 2016 Finals - 38 Pts, 6 Ast, SICK!
    Now go to the 2:32 mark
    BTW from now on when this 2016 take is brought up by any of these 'analysts' IM POSTING THIS SAME COMMENT

  • @thebpwtv4390
    @thebpwtv4390 2 роки тому

    Mr. A always talk about things we already know

  • @jmason105
    @jmason105 Рік тому

    Mad dog is not built for TV. He is definitely a radio guy lol.

  • @goldenstatewarriors9418
    @goldenstatewarriors9418 2 роки тому +1

    Mad Dog brought up Magic's 40 point salvo as evidence that he performed great before the '84 Finals. You act like Steph never had a great game like that before 2016... So Steph's championships with Durant don't count, but Magic winning with Kareem in his MVP year does? Make it make sense.

  • @Mo_Wat5
    @Mo_Wat5 2 роки тому +16

    If the Warriors win and Steph brings home the FMVP, I think you can argue he’s a top ten player of all time.

    • @doctorsam5771
      @doctorsam5771 2 роки тому +3

      You can argue now that he's a top 10 player of all time but with a 4th ring and a FMVP he should've won twice by now? He's a lock for top 10 players of all time, no one in that top 10 list comes close to him in terms of sheer impact on the game not named Michael Jordan

    • @trickstergamer3383
      @trickstergamer3383 2 роки тому

      They still gonna keep him out of it. If u look at the top 10 all time not one point guard and a player who under 6”6 is on that list is top 10. Ik Magic is point guard but that man was 6”9 he literally a point forward but I’ll give him point guard but no one who 6”6 or shorter is on that list

    • @Mo_Wat5
      @Mo_Wat5 2 роки тому

      @@doctorsam5771 I would say LeBron too

    • @FallINMItch44
      @FallINMItch44 2 роки тому +3

      @@trickstergamer3383 that’s cuz people are allergic to calling a small 6’3 guard a top 10 player. They bring up defense yet ignore Stephs ability to position himself in the right places for steals. They also ignore the offensive impact Steph brings through his three point danger, which pulls defenders closer to him thereby leaving his teammates open.

    • @look-at-curry-man2206
      @look-at-curry-man2206 2 роки тому

      @@Mo_Wat5 Kobe>>> LeGm no arguments

  • @edisongao9528
    @edisongao9528 2 роки тому +1

    This dude is like a NY version of skip bayless.

  • @Mark-in4fr
    @Mark-in4fr 2 роки тому

    Imagine getting clotheslined one the 90’s as a legal move.

  • @its_anthony4532
    @its_anthony4532 2 роки тому +4

    I think people forget that Steph curry gets double teamed every single game. I wonder why 😂

  • @ryanjohnson5882
    @ryanjohnson5882 2 роки тому +1

    I thought the Warriors were playing the Celtics not Lebron and the Cavs

  • @ahmedalguar153
    @ahmedalguar153 2 роки тому

    Omg I’m so scared it got so heated Come on now even espn now 🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @robburnett8404
    @robburnett8404 2 роки тому

    As a Queens guy this is so good but I can't believe we spewed this out for a national audience...

  • @DrSlipperyFist
    @DrSlipperyFist 2 роки тому +4

    They always talk about other teams being injured, but it never goes both ways with the warriors.
    Weren't they down their starting center in '16? Draymond suspended?
    Same with the grizzlies this year. Ja being hurt is a fact....but how about Iguadala and GP2 for the warriors?

  • @jasperjaen6775
    @jasperjaen6775 2 роки тому

    Hit em high!, Popular rappers, "championship"

  • @jaronwynn5023
    @jaronwynn5023 2 роки тому

    That’s suppose to be 2015 Finals not 2016

  • @binary
    @binary Рік тому

    debate on Curry is over.

  • @danieldiaz4692
    @danieldiaz4692 2 роки тому +5

    It's hilarious seeing SAS getting his own medicine back 🤣

  • @user-xd6gr1yb6d
    @user-xd6gr1yb6d 2 роки тому

    Oh. That Cavs starting 5 was really bad. Lol. I forgot.

  • @kaidjackson1200
    @kaidjackson1200 2 роки тому +18

    WHEN DID WE START DISCREDITING CHAMPIONSHIPS, NO MATTER WHO WON??? SO DISRESPECTFUL BRUH 🔥

    • @jaymoore9181
      @jaymoore9181 2 роки тому

      Yall do it all the time with the “bubble”

    • @kaidjackson1200
      @kaidjackson1200 2 роки тому

      @@jaymoore9181 APPARENTLY YOU DIDN'T READ THE FULL COMMENT BRUH...GOD BLESS YOU THOUGH

    • @jordybeans2392
      @jordybeans2392 2 роки тому +1

      💯

  • @tk_drako
    @tk_drako 2 роки тому +1

    All Mad Dog does is belittle Steph Curry and the Warriors constantly

  • @random-nz7dy
    @random-nz7dy 2 роки тому +1

    I really don't like the black hole conversation about injuries.
    You can talk about all the different finals in the last 10 years where there have been important players injured on the non-winning side.
    Last year the suns were the beneficiary of kawaii being injured. And then the bucks were the beneficiary of Devin Booker being injured.
    Part of winning a championship in any sport is a combination of not only being a great team but also being fortunate to be optimally healthy at the right time.
    That's just part of what goes into winning and championship.
    So you can go around and around all day long talking about this injury and that injury.
    As a matter of fact I think you could take any championship team from any sports League and make an argument as to why you could put an asterisk by their championship. Whether it's they played an easy conference, benefitted from injuries, a bad call, etc etc.

  • @keykeyblazeroyce1742
    @keykeyblazeroyce1742 Рік тому +1

    They trynna make him the new skip bay less 😂😂

  • @cudinutts5323
    @cudinutts5323 2 роки тому

    This guy reminds me of a mafia version of skip! I like it 💪🏿

  • @RuffRyder14
    @RuffRyder14 28 днів тому

    4:23 😂😂

  • @carlfrancis4704
    @carlfrancis4704 2 роки тому

    Mad dog talking basketball…
    Me: watched 1sec of clip and changed channel

  • @convertz_6258
    @convertz_6258 2 роки тому +2

    Him again 🤦‍♂️

  • @t00slimey4x4
    @t00slimey4x4 2 роки тому

    Note……It was the 2015 NBA Finals, not the 2016.

  • @vince5417
    @vince5417 2 роки тому

    The Splash boys vs the Brash boys if Boston is not physical with Golden State this series will be over quickly. Stephen and Madd Dog looking spiffy in those blazers.

  • @rickholladay4128
    @rickholladay4128 2 роки тому

    Less “mad dog” and more legit basketball minds