The NSMB series isn't fundamentally bad, the level design is cool and the games are all very fun at the end of the day. The mainly get a bad rep because of their lack of distinction between each other. Some level design and themes do feel too identical, but there still plenty of new ideas with each entry. To me these new ideas are enough to make a new entry not feel redundant, but that isn't the case with everyone. I wish we still got more new 2D Mario games. I would hope that we would get more games in the future, maybe with cool new mechanics, ideas, and themes to make the games more fresh, fixing the criticism many others have for the game.
@@staringcorgi6475 That is definitely an issue. NSMB2 suffers the most from reused themes, tile sets and music. NSMBU is a little better with some new music, tile sets, and themes like Haunted Forest, Lava Peach's Castle, or even Snow at Night. But at the end of the day it's the same as NSMB and Wii, the changes are very small and shallow. I suppose Nintendo wanted to play it safe, but it didn't really help at the end of the day. They don't have to go all out with new worlds like Odyssey, just a little more effort can go a long way.
@@semario2606 I had some fun with NSMB2, awesome times with Wii, but when I got u deluxe on the switch, idk man, it felt like a cash grab. My brother and I couldn’t get around to finishing it. We are still on world 3 to this day. Felt like it had no passion, no originality, and wasn’t very fun. To this day I miss my Wii because I had NsMB Wii and it was awesome
@@fasttheplayer2535 Nintendo was leaning very hard into the casual player base during the Wii U era. Wii Sports, Wii Fit, and NSMBW all got sequels on the Wii U that were very similar to the original. I imagine Nintendo didn't make many changes and played it safe because that's what they thought people wanted. "People like Mario Wii, let's do that again." This obviously backfired, because in consumer's eyes, why get a new game when you can just play the Wii game instead. To me the game is appealing because of its similarities to Wii, but I am sure I am in the minority. If they made it like Tropical Freeze where it has similar mechanics but expanded the level design and themes it would probably feel more unique.
i feel like nsmb is a franchise that heavily depends on if you like platformers or not, i like platformers a lot and because of that i like nsmb, but if your kind of in the middle or dont like platformers you will feel like it gets repetitive
In nsmb ds, when you complete the game, you can go into the pause menu and press these buttons in order to unlock a secret challenge mode. The buttons are L,R,L,R,XX,YY
@@Kdkjdjewerdnxa I'm not going to lie, here - the use of sprites instead of 3D character/object/background models makes the graphics look inferior, cheap-looking, ugly and outdated there. This is why I like the _New Super Mario Bros. U_ and _New Super Luigi U_ the best out of all 5 video games from the New Super Mario Bros. video game sub-series, even though I have yet to play them (I've seen extensive video game gameplay videos on UA-cam for these 2 New Super Mario Bros. video games, so I know here what I'm talking about here). I strongly prefer either 100% 2D sprites (for 1980's/1990's retro video games) or 100% 3D character/object/background models (for modern video games); I don't like a mix of the two as they would then clash there.
You forgot to mention that Star Coins in the first NSMB were also used to save the game, as before you beat the game you could only save the game after a boss OR after buying an alternate route through Star Coins. On my recent playthrough I actually saved bunch of these closed roads for later, just to be able to save the game
New Super Mario bros Wii was my first Mario game ever and I instantly fell in love and have grown into the Mario fan I am now,and playing ever single New game in the series has never let me down at all it’s such a fun creative series that I just can’t stay mad at or hate I know we haven’t gotten a New Mario Game in a long time but for me,I can wait because I just replay all of these and still enjoy it Thank You Nintendo for giving me the best childhood ever
I started out playing Super Mario World and All Stars. New Super Mario Bros. Wii felt like such a regression. The power ups sucked and the levels were so bland.
New super Mario bros franchise is like a cupcake. It's a perfectly delicious dessert but if you kept getting fed the same cupcake over and over again your gonna get sick of eating it.
fun fact: in new super luigi u, levels are actually not 100 seconds long, as they had to slow down the timer a little because the levels would have been too hard otherwise. I think NSMBU seconds do equal one second but in Luigi U they are definitely longer (not sure about the exact ratio, feels like 1.5)
Even though I’ve seen all the parts of this video on their own, I’ve watched this video twice now. Very rewatchable content you’ve made here that I really love! Amazing job on this series!
@@20000dino Oh I can be critical but still enjoy the things I love. Heck, I don't criticize, because I'm able to look pass them and enjoy things the way they are
I love these retrospectives so much, especially the ending part were it shows a montage of different parts of the game. Makes me feel so nostalgic and happy 💕
I used to be one of those that think the nsmb series is "all rehash and generic" but this video has made me realize just how fun some of these games can get. It especially brought back memories of me playing ds and wii as I forgot how much fun I had with them when I was younger. I should 100% them sometime.
Had all those games had their own different aesthetics and music, keeping their respective level designs... would they be as good as Mario 3 and world? I think so. I don't have a problem with the games. The art direction, however...
Art anf musics are big parts. Imagine if U had the wangogh style. Instead of only one level. Also bowswr Jr drawing should be the story. Also also why not give enemies rhemes like pirates vikings ninjas etc like DKC-games
Honestly the games themselves are fine, if each had a different artstyle + Soundtrack to distinguish themselves from each other I don't think anybody would have an issue with them.
In what way is New Super Mario Bros for the DS „underrated“? Its literally one of the top most sold DS games. Commercials were everywhere and people always remember it for playing the local multiplayer together along with the good minigames. Its a Treasure till this Day.
I think these games are very good and more people would appreciate them if they were marketed better because they’re way more unique than they seem at face value.
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"Their collection of games that, despite being so similar, are also so different from each other"... I feel like that applies more to Super Mario Bros., Super Mario Bros. 3, and Super Mario World more than The New Super Mario Bros. games.
super mario bros 3 was extremely different from the original and super mario world, what are you on about lol. The original didnt even have an overworld and smb3 had an actual inventory for powerups, meanwhile super mario world was one big world with way more secrets instead of separate worlds, but it removed the inventory for powerups. Not to mention all 3 games had extremely different art styles, meanwhile all new super mario bros games look nearly identical, with the same overworld. This really sounds like the opinion of someone who never played through all those games.
I was saying that about those games. Maybe I worded it wrong. It's harder to describe differences between The New Super Mario Bros. games than those three classics.@@cypress2647
In hindsight, it certainly could've been better, but at the same time, there is a lot to praise. NSMB was a strong start, implementing many of the fundamental mechanics we'd expect from modern 2D Mario, however, the game can be difficult for some to return to, and in many aspects, such as level design, was surpassed by NSMBWii. NSMBWii is a modern classic. A game that set standards. A game that checked off boxes you didn't even know you needed, but now cannot play Mario without. It is top-notch in nearly every regard, and still remains the best-executed 2D Mario game in the series. NSMBU stands on equal footing when it comes to level design, but drops the ball with everything else, from bosses to music to world maps to enemy rings to power-ups to the finale. NSMBU at times feels creative and well-inspired, and at other times feels like a shameless, whole hog rip-off. It desperately needed more development time to seal in the cracks, as well as introduce at least one new gameplay mechanic, which it sorely lacks. NSMB2 no doubt stole much of that development time, and accomplished jack squat with it. It is a forgettable, reprehensible game that rode off the tails of everything else. Nuff said. So, in short, the NSMB games started strong and peaked early. They rode the wave of success and innovation until later titles failed to uphold those standards. That laziness ensured the NSMB games would never be revered in the same way as the classics. Honestly, had the series managed to improve past NSMBWii, upping the anty in several regards and consistently subverting the audience's expectations, it could've been incredible. It could've been the best. As of now though, it's pretty good all things considered.
Wii is okay at best, tight level design being trashed to make giant levels that accommodate multiplayer hurts the gamefeel for singleplayer campaigns. DS has significantly better level design
Before NSMBWii the last 2D Mario game where Koopalings appeared was Super Mario World, the last Mario game where they appeared was Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga on GBA
Having growing up playing the ‘New’ franchise since the beginning, it will always admire me every time I come back and replay them (even if games like NSMB2 didn’t live up to everyone’s expectations).
New Super Mario Bros Wii was the game that I grew up on with my older brother. We got the Wii when I was 6 or 7, and all we had was Wii Sports, MarioKart, and the Wii version. I didn’t become a diehard Mario fan, but I bout cried when I heard that title screen music again. I remember being so terrified of giant Bowser that I had to go to my room while my brother beat him. Maybe I’ll go back and play it sometime.
NSMB for the DS is probably my favorite Mario game of all time. Such great nostalgia, and great level designs, just great all around. Even though, I have to admit that the Wii version had the better boss fights
NSMB will always have a special place in my heart regardless, especially the first game. It just gets me so nostalgiac and excited for reasons I don’t understand.
Fun Fact:During the Bowser & Dry Bowser Boss Fights in New Super Mario Bros 2 the claw swiping attacks actually don't hurt you that just destroy the platforms
20:05 That's not true, the Koopalings had their last appearence in Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga! Also die shifting of Worlds/Combininf two world styles into one wasn't initially done in SMB2 but Super Mario Bros. Wii.
15:55 that brings back happy memories, I am currently 17 and when i was younger and had my ds I loved mario. And since we used to play with no tutorials I had to find every small detail by myself. And at some point during bowser’s castle I was really confused on how to pass the level. I was surprised when my mom helped me and turned out to be great at the game, really connected me a lot more to my mom. After I was I able to buy my first console by myself (Nintendo switch) Im just looking forward to play these games with my parents. Mario has done so much for us Its just crazy ;p
I think “bad” is a misnomer. More like disappointing. I kinda think of the first one for the ds as a Super Mario Land situation: a basic game that introduced us to Mario but unlike the Land series, we never got a Mario Land 2: Golden Coins after, instead we got more of Mario Land 1 (if that makes sense). Considering how innovative or just flat out creative Mario was originally as a 2d platformer, dependable, C+ to B+ quality games don’t really cut it
Loved the video! You made me appreciate these games even more than I already did. A lot of the stuff you said reminded me of my childhood as well haha. Very well editing and the audio is really nice!
The real reason why there such a huge amount of disdain for NSMB series, is how it affected the Mario Series as a whole The bland aesthetic bled into every corner of the Mario Series, the main 3D platformers, the Paper Mario series, the sport games were all infested with the blandness of the NSMB series
My biggest issue with NSMB is what I call the Yoshi syndrome. Crafted World and Story can be 200/10 games otherwise, but it speaks volumes that Crafted World becomes a billion times better as soon as you underlay Yoshis Island music. For NSMB, Bah Baaaaaah is no soundtrack in my world, no matter how good or bad the music might be, it just annoys me to death
This is suspiciously similar to Silok Hawks video on this idea of, a retrospective of the entire New super Mario series. I don’t just mean the idea, but yeah it is the same idea. I am talking about how similar all the reviews of each game are. The main differences that set the reviews apart are literally just this guy adding subjective points that are extremely dumb once you look into them for more than a second. The main one being him saying that NSMB for the DS was an underrated game, even though it was one of the best selling games on the DS, which the DS was also a really well selling console. I am not saying this guy 100% ripped off Silok Hawks video, I am just saying that it is suspicious how all of the reviews in a 1 hour and 20 minute video are all structed very similarly to his video.
this is a great video. Something i found funny though, is that line about nsmb ds being an underrated game, but then right after that in the nsmbwii segment its said that nsmbds was the 2nd best selling 2d mario game, i think it's odd to say its an underrated game when it seems like it was quite popular. I guess you could argue selling well doesn't mean the game wont be underrated or something.
Really don't get why there's dislike for these games. Like yeah I can see lack of innovation but they all feel quite different to me when I play them, but based on the game style. This is personally my favorite franchise because it's what I started with, and the sounds and visuals are just great. Don't really know why we're having the debate that this franchise sucks when it really doesn't.
I'm tired of people talking bad on NSMB. These games definitely still hold up by today's standards. In addition to that, NSMB DS gets flack for being 'unoriginal' by today's standards when in actuality it literally brought back 2-D Mario to the modern era. Mario Bros Wii made multiplayer (wonky) fun and inventive and NSMB U had Luigi U which was one of the best level packs we've seen since NSMB 2 (Which I can admit feels like the most contrived game). NSMB is a great series and I think everyone needs to boot up an old copy and remind themselves why they love Mario in the first place
I've always though NSMB was bad, dude, you can't remind me why I love it in the first place when I never did. I bought the DS one on release and thought it was boring. Yes, even back then. For me, SMB3 was the pinnacle of 2D Mario that they never surpassed (World is still good though).
50:08 in defense of the change, this type of thing happens on Earth as well. For example: Go from Northern Arizona (say the town of Flagstaff) and you'll be in the Mountains and cold and snow; and go down I-17 towards Phoenix and all of sudden your in the Desert where its hot, dray and sunny. I'm sure places like that exist in Japan where you have Mountains.
I think I just noticed an interesting detail New super mario bros 2. (actually the 3rd game) introduces elements from Super mario bros 3 Meanwhile New super mario bros U (the 4th), introduces elements from Super mario world (the 4th game, if you exclude Lost Levels) I really like how they followed the same pattern
I think it may be cause of my autism or something, but I CANNOT HANDLE THESE GAMES WHEN I WAS LITTLE cause I had to collect every single coin, break every block even though how tedious it was. And sometimes it’s not even possible!! (Yea. This didn’t get any easier for me with NSMB 2) And I would get so like emotionally affected over it that I couldn’t handle playing anymore💀
They could easily make one of the best new super Mario Bros game by just changing up world themes, more creative level design, adding new power ups like the boomerang suit, the blue shell, the mega mushroom, ext. It would also be pretty cool to see a map that connects but also just doesn't randomly change from over world to dessert. And they need harder bosses ASAP. I don't see a problem in them keeping the koopalings but Only for the main castle. I hope they do the same thing Mario ds aimed for. Unique bosses, all that pizazz.
I bet someone else has already commented this, but the bowser heads in the bowser fight in new super mario bros 2 are made out of stone, like gargoyles, not metal
NSMB DS and Wii will always be special to me, probably poured over a thousand hours into each as a kid. But all of these games bring back childhood memories, DS was the game that made me fall in love with games Wii was the only thing I wanted for Christmas back in 2009 2 came out on my birthday and I remember my dad bringing me to GameStop to get it and U was the sole reason why I got the Wii U, joke was on me I guess lol
IMO I would be extremely happy if they took the Luigi bros concept and combined it with the idea of NG+ Finish the easier levels as Mario, then unlock Luigi mode with remixed shorter levels Heck maybe they could have extra fun with it and make the opening for Luigi continue directly after Mario's ending, with Mario winning but being bamboozled and captured
A couple of things in NSMB2 worth talking about were the Invincibility Leaf being added. The second is the new level type unique to that game, the Rainbow 🌈 levels.
NSMB2 has a special place in my heart as it was the first ever official mario game and game console game that I ever played. And it was one of the first games that I ever owned on my 3DS for my birthday back in 2013 at that time my only experience with mario was playing a bunch of mario based flash games both the good and the bad ones.
I think the next game can have a 3D world like artstyle and have a twist on existing level theme. 9 tweaked worlds and 9 remixed world which have their original theme. A red desert and ice-covered snow world is a good example. The power up can be poison flower where you have to wait a while before defeating enemies and a cheese that turns mario into mouse mario which let mario walk on ceilings. They should have original bosses instead of boom boom in the tower levels like mega hammer Bros or king bob-omb. The castle having Koopalings is fine but they can have interesting attacking method once in a while. The world map can be more inspired by Mario world in certain worlds while keeping the format for the others. Would be nice to see more obscure and new emeries like shy guys and goloomba. There can be more moves to reward advanced players like roll and long jump. The score system should be hidden and the game should limit Mario to 25 lives. Coins also should reward you with power-ups when it reaches 100. I think that’s enough for a new 2D Mario.
NSMB:Wii was the first game in the series I played and when I got to the final fight, my 6 year old self legit wondered why there was so much time left on the clock. And then mega Bowser appeared. Still one of, if not the coolest 2d Bowser fight.
I think Luigi U's difficulty is great as a bonus mode or DLC, but would be really bad as the primary game and turn a lot of people away. It's the kind of thing that's fun when optional but too much when the focus.
I think that the reason so many people have a problem with these series is because of how they were viewed versus what they were meant to be. I don't think these were supposed to be very innovative Mario games, I think they were just there to give each Nintendo system a 2D Mario game for the sake of just having one available on each system rather than to innovate across each entry.
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The reason Daisy wasn't chosen to be kidnapped by Bowser in New Super Luigi U is because Daisy would've killed Bowser herself.
fr girl would kick his ass
Super Mario Run says hi.
@@EWOODJ Didn't Daisy lock herself up in that one?
@Righteous 2k have you played Mario Party 3?
@@EWOODJ She wasn’t kidnapped, she just got lost in the pipe system.
“It’s insanely ridiculous how easy this fight is”. *Proceeds to get hit by Bowser!*
Lmao
He's not rong tho
@@Scarabola whats a rong
@@Bluemantopvids it's when you wear a thong backwards
Ok
People forget to mention that the penguin suit also prevented you from sliding on ice which helped a ton in some levels
Same with blue shell increasing swim speed
The NSMB series isn't fundamentally bad, the level design is cool and the games are all very fun at the end of the day. The mainly get a bad rep because of their lack of distinction between each other. Some level design and themes do feel too identical, but there still plenty of new ideas with each entry. To me these new ideas are enough to make a new entry not feel redundant, but that isn't the case with everyone. I wish we still got more new 2D Mario games. I would hope that we would get more games in the future, maybe with cool new mechanics, ideas, and themes to make the games more fresh, fixing the criticism many others have for the game.
I think the presentation is boring it feels like a mario game that was not made with passion kinda like an ea sports game
@@staringcorgi6475 That is definitely an issue. NSMB2 suffers the most from reused themes, tile sets and music. NSMBU is a little better with some new music, tile sets, and themes like Haunted Forest, Lava Peach's Castle, or even Snow at Night. But at the end of the day it's the same as NSMB and Wii, the changes are very small and shallow. I suppose Nintendo wanted to play it safe, but it didn't really help at the end of the day. They don't have to go all out with new worlds like Odyssey, just a little more effort can go a long way.
@@semario2606 I had some fun with NSMB2, awesome times with Wii, but when I got u deluxe on the switch, idk man, it felt like a cash grab. My brother and I couldn’t get around to finishing it. We are still on world 3 to this day. Felt like it had no passion, no originality, and wasn’t very fun. To this day I miss my Wii because I had NsMB Wii and it was awesome
@@fasttheplayer2535 Nintendo was leaning very hard into the casual player base during the Wii U era. Wii Sports, Wii Fit, and NSMBW all got sequels on the Wii U that were very similar to the original. I imagine Nintendo didn't make many changes and played it safe because that's what they thought people wanted. "People like Mario Wii, let's do that again." This obviously backfired, because in consumer's eyes, why get a new game when you can just play the Wii game instead. To me the game is appealing because of its similarities to Wii, but I am sure I am in the minority. If they made it like Tropical Freeze where it has similar mechanics but expanded the level design and themes it would probably feel more unique.
i feel like nsmb is a franchise that heavily depends on if you like platformers or not, i like platformers a lot and because of that i like nsmb, but if your kind of in the middle or dont like platformers you will feel like it gets repetitive
In nsmb ds, when you complete the game, you can go into the pause menu and press these buttons in order to unlock a secret challenge mode. The buttons are L,R,L,R,XX,YY
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@@696Productions It’s not cap bro, it’s genuinely real
100% real. It makes it so you can’t move backwards in a stage. Like in SMB1
@@696Productions its real lol
Remember secret codes damn
10:34 Fun fact! Goomboss is one of the few original characters from Paper Mario which made it to a non-RPG game.
Toadette!
This isn't Goomboss, it's just a giant goomba, Goomboss made his first non rpg appearance in Super Mario 64 DS
@@SameSeam He didn't say that the Giant Goomba was Goomboss, just that Goomboss is a Paper Mario character that appeared in a separate franchise.
Honestly love the NSMBU final boss the most due to the fact that Mario commits both grand theft auto and vehicular manslaughter to defeat Bowser
I also love that games final bowser fight as well
And that's the only mainline Mario game where you can play as your Miis.
I think it’s very satisfying how they make 3d things look 2d. For example a swinging platforms from the first castle level in nsmb U
That’s vice versa
It's pretty cool
A lot of it is actually 2D. They use sprites pretty heavily especially in the earlier ones.
@@Kdkjdjewerdnxa I'm not going to lie, here - the use of sprites instead of 3D character/object/background models makes the graphics look inferior, cheap-looking, ugly and outdated there. This is why I like the _New Super Mario Bros. U_ and _New Super Luigi U_ the best out of all 5 video games from the New Super Mario Bros. video game sub-series, even though I have yet to play them (I've seen extensive video game gameplay videos on UA-cam for these 2 New Super Mario Bros. video games, so I know here what I'm talking about here). I strongly prefer either 100% 2D sprites (for 1980's/1990's retro video games) or 100% 3D character/object/background models (for modern video games); I don't like a mix of the two as they would then clash there.
@@Kdkjdjewerdnxa nice and cool
Fun fact, in NSMB DS Bowser Jr. has a unique falling animation if you manage to press the switch without defeating him in the final fight
Not really it's just his running animation sped up
You forgot to mention that Star Coins in the first NSMB were also used to save the game, as before you beat the game you could only save the game after a boss OR after buying an alternate route through Star Coins. On my recent playthrough I actually saved bunch of these closed roads for later, just to be able to save the game
31:50 He once again fails to ask the ever-important question: "How did Mario go from Super Mario to Small Mario in between the cutscene and gameplay"
he got hit or smth idk
Isn’t this just the same videos in a compilation?
New Super Mario bros Wii was my first Mario game ever and I instantly fell in love and have grown into the Mario fan I am now,and playing ever single New game in the series has never let me down at all it’s such a fun creative series that I just can’t stay mad at or hate I know we haven’t gotten a New Mario Game in a long time but for me,I can wait because I just replay all of these and still enjoy it Thank You Nintendo for giving me the best childhood ever
100 percent relate and agree with you!
Yes thank you Nintendo and these games are pretty good
Me but with DS
I started out playing Super Mario World and All Stars. New Super Mario Bros. Wii felt like such a regression. The power ups sucked and the levels were so bland.
@@XXXXX8 cool but when did I ask?
The blue baby yoshi was probably the inspiration for the bubble flower power in Mario Wonder.
New super Mario bros franchise is like a cupcake. It's a perfectly delicious dessert but if you kept getting fed the same cupcake over and over again your gonna get sick of eating it.
Terrible food analogy
@@vacuumblink2300 Maybe you didn’t understand it but it’s a pretty good one bro. Learn some reading comprehension skills
"all of the mario games are very similar"
Enter mario bros wonder
fun fact: in new super luigi u, levels are actually not 100 seconds long, as they had to slow down the timer a little because the levels would have been too hard otherwise. I think NSMBU seconds do equal one second but in Luigi U they are definitely longer (not sure about the exact ratio, feels like 1.5)
It's the opposite. A second in vanilla U is less than a real second, but a second in Luigi U is 1-to-1 with a real second.
Vanilla how?@Jekuma
The mini shroom also lets you run on water and jump extremely high to access other areas. It's pretty useful
And now there's Super Mario Bros Wonder
Even though I’ve seen all the parts of this video on their own, I’ve watched this video twice now. Very rewatchable content you’ve made here that I really love! Amazing job on this series!
Why are people all of a sudden hating on games they grew up playing and liking? I just don't get it
Because it's called growing up and being critical of things they once enjoyed or still enjoy ? Maybe you should try it, sometime.
@@20000dino Oh I can be critical but still enjoy the things I love. Heck, I don't criticize, because I'm able to look pass them and enjoy things the way they are
you are wrong@@20000dino
I love these retrospectives so much, especially the ending part were it shows a montage of different parts of the game. Makes me feel so nostalgic and happy 💕
I used to be one of those that think the nsmb series is "all rehash and generic" but this video has made me realize just how fun some of these games can get. It especially brought back memories of me playing ds and wii as I forgot how much fun I had with them when I was younger. I should 100% them sometime.
Had all those games had their own different aesthetics and music, keeping their respective level designs... would they be as good as Mario 3 and world? I think so. I don't have a problem with the games. The art direction, however...
Art anf musics are big parts. Imagine if U had the wangogh style. Instead of only one level. Also bowswr Jr drawing should be the story. Also also why not give enemies rhemes like pirates vikings ninjas etc like DKC-games
omg the nostalgia from NSMB DS is unreal, mostly the music and level layouts.
Honestly the games themselves are fine, if each had a different artstyle + Soundtrack to distinguish themselves from each other I don't think anybody would have an issue with them.
In what way is New Super Mario Bros for the DS „underrated“? Its literally one of the top most sold DS games. Commercials were everywhere and people always remember it for playing the local multiplayer together along with the good minigames. Its a Treasure till this Day.
I think these games are very good and more people would appreciate them if they were marketed better because they’re way more unique than they seem at face value.
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Who here after SMBW trailer
That little montage u did at the end just gave me a whole wave of nostalgia 😢
Out of curiosity, what would you rate every game in this series out of 10 (NSMB2 I know you gave a 7/10)?
"Their collection of games that, despite being so similar, are also so different from each other"... I feel like that applies more to Super Mario Bros., Super Mario Bros. 3, and Super Mario World more than The New Super Mario Bros. games.
I agree, but its also true for this series.
super mario bros 3 was extremely different from the original and super mario world, what are you on about lol. The original didnt even have an overworld and smb3 had an actual inventory for powerups, meanwhile super mario world was one big world with way more secrets instead of separate worlds, but it removed the inventory for powerups. Not to mention all 3 games had extremely different art styles, meanwhile all new super mario bros games look nearly identical, with the same overworld.
This really sounds like the opinion of someone who never played through all those games.
I was saying that about those games. Maybe I worded it wrong. It's harder to describe differences between The New Super Mario Bros. games than those three classics.@@cypress2647
Thank you for the compilation! This is really entertaining to watch, and have background noise
In hindsight, it certainly could've been better, but at the same time, there is a lot to praise. NSMB was a strong start, implementing many of the fundamental mechanics we'd expect from modern 2D Mario, however, the game can be difficult for some to return to, and in many aspects, such as level design, was surpassed by NSMBWii. NSMBWii is a modern classic. A game that set standards. A game that checked off boxes you didn't even know you needed, but now cannot play Mario without. It is top-notch in nearly every regard, and still remains the best-executed 2D Mario game in the series. NSMBU stands on equal footing when it comes to level design, but drops the ball with everything else, from bosses to music to world maps to enemy rings to power-ups to the finale. NSMBU at times feels creative and well-inspired, and at other times feels like a shameless, whole hog rip-off. It desperately needed more development time to seal in the cracks, as well as introduce at least one new gameplay mechanic, which it sorely lacks. NSMB2 no doubt stole much of that development time, and accomplished jack squat with it. It is a forgettable, reprehensible game that rode off the tails of everything else. Nuff said. So, in short, the NSMB games started strong and peaked early. They rode the wave of success and innovation until later titles failed to uphold those standards. That laziness ensured the NSMB games would never be revered in the same way as the classics. Honestly, had the series managed to improve past NSMBWii, upping the anty in several regards and consistently subverting the audience's expectations, it could've been incredible. It could've been the best. As of now though, it's pretty good all things considered.
You really need to work on your spelling and grammar.
Wii is okay at best, tight level design being trashed to make giant levels that accommodate multiplayer hurts the gamefeel for singleplayer campaigns. DS has significantly better level design
Won’t forget how they gave away NSMB2 for free digitally when it launched, got it for free lol. Rip eshop
Before NSMBWii the last 2D Mario game where Koopalings appeared was Super Mario World, the last Mario game where they appeared was Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga on GBA
Having growing up playing the ‘New’ franchise since the beginning, it will always admire me every time I come back and replay them (even if games like NSMB2 didn’t live up to everyone’s expectations).
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new super mario bros wii was my childhood
Wow! That's one of the most complete and elaborate reviews I've seen recently. Surely deserves more subscribers. Great video!
New Super Mario Bros Wii was the game that I grew up on with my older brother. We got the Wii when I was 6 or 7, and all we had was Wii Sports, MarioKart, and the Wii version. I didn’t become a diehard Mario fan, but I bout cried when I heard that title screen music again. I remember being so terrified of giant Bowser that I had to go to my room while my brother beat him. Maybe I’ll go back and play it sometime.
If I’m being honest, if they combine nsmb wii’s levels with nsmb u’s world map, it would be the best game ever
the Koopalings did make an reappearance in the Mario franchise before NSMBW via Mario and Luigi: SuperStar Saga in 2003.
NSMB for the DS is probably my favorite Mario game of all time. Such great nostalgia, and great level designs, just great all around. Even though, I have to admit that the Wii version had the better boss fights
No it isn't
NSMB will always have a special place in my heart regardless, especially the first game. It just gets me so nostalgiac and excited for reasons I don’t understand.
Fun Fact:During the Bowser & Dry Bowser Boss Fights in New Super Mario Bros 2 the claw swiping attacks actually don't hurt you that just destroy the platforms
The original new super mario for the ds definitely isn't bad so many good memories
20:05 That's not true, the Koopalings had their last appearence in Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga!
Also die shifting of Worlds/Combininf two world styles into one wasn't initially done in SMB2 but Super Mario Bros. Wii.
15:55 that brings back happy memories, I am currently 17 and when i was younger and had my ds I loved mario. And since we used to play with no tutorials I had to find every small detail by myself. And at some point during bowser’s castle I was really confused on how to pass the level. I was surprised when my mom helped me and turned out to be great at the game, really connected me a lot more to my mom. After I was I able to buy my first console by myself (Nintendo switch) Im just looking forward to play these games with my parents. Mario has done so much for us Its just crazy ;p
Your videos are always so entertaining and relaxing to watch!
I think “bad” is a misnomer. More like disappointing. I kinda think of the first one for the ds as a Super Mario Land situation: a basic game that introduced us to Mario but unlike the Land series, we never got a Mario Land 2: Golden Coins after, instead we got more of Mario Land 1 (if that makes sense).
Considering how innovative or just flat out creative Mario was originally as a 2d platformer, dependable, C+ to B+ quality games don’t really cut it
They're all good games. The only thing wrong is that they've all been the same since wii.
DS and wii are the only unique ones
If those two were the only game, think the series would be more well received
I really appreciated the extra editing effort at the end of this video. lots of nostalgia and the perfect ending to your commentary.
Loved the video! You made me appreciate these games even more than I already did. A lot of the stuff you said reminded me of my childhood as well haha.
Very well editing and the audio is really nice!
Very good quality, you deserve 30x your sub count.
Dang… watching this vid was kinda useless bc they are just copy paste from his vids before
Did yall know in nsmbw toad houses, you can ground pound onto ur friend's head and steal their turn
its icredible how much effort you put in to this video! great work.
The real reason why there such a huge amount of disdain for NSMB series, is how it affected the Mario Series as a whole
The bland aesthetic bled into every corner of the Mario Series, the main 3D platformers, the Paper Mario series, the sport games were all infested with the blandness of the NSMB series
It hurt my soul when you didn't grab that star coin at 27:40
My biggest issue with NSMB is what I call the Yoshi syndrome. Crafted World and Story can be 200/10 games otherwise, but it speaks volumes that Crafted World becomes a billion times better as soon as you underlay Yoshis Island music. For NSMB, Bah Baaaaaah is no soundtrack in my world, no matter how good or bad the music might be, it just annoys me to death
This sub-franchise is vaguely the main reason as to why that meme of *My Dancers: Koopas, Goombas!* aka *Bah Bah* remotely even exists :)
The main reason why the New Super Mario Brothers series went stale is because Nintendo used Super Mario World as a template to build the games.
This is suspiciously similar to Silok Hawks video on this idea of, a retrospective of the entire New super Mario series. I don’t just mean the idea, but yeah it is the same idea. I am talking about how similar all the reviews of each game are.
The main differences that set the reviews apart are literally just this guy adding subjective points that are extremely dumb once you look into them for more than a second. The main one being him saying that NSMB for the DS was an underrated game, even though it was one of the best selling games on the DS, which the DS was also a really well selling console.
I am not saying this guy 100% ripped off Silok Hawks video, I am just saying that it is suspicious how all of the reviews in a 1 hour and 20 minute video are all structed very similarly to his video.
this is a great video. Something i found funny though, is that line about nsmb ds being an underrated game, but then right after that in the nsmbwii segment its said that nsmbds was the 2nd best selling 2d mario game, i think it's odd to say its an underrated game when it seems like it was quite popular. I guess you could argue selling well doesn't mean the game wont be underrated or something.
New Super mario bros 2 is underated
Its fu**ing overratet, the maps are so damn uncreativ. Compare it with donkey kong tropical breeze for example. It looks so ugly if you compare it.
@@TheRmaster86 wasnt comparing it to anything lol
Propeller Mushroom was absolutely broken
Really don't get why there's dislike for these games. Like yeah I can see lack of innovation but they all feel quite different to me when I play them, but based on the game style. This is personally my favorite franchise because it's what I started with, and the sounds and visuals are just great. Don't really know why we're having the debate that this franchise sucks when it really doesn't.
NSMB DS 1 and 2 are some of my favorite games I've ever played, most ppl who hate the series never even played it
I'm tired of people talking bad on NSMB. These games definitely still hold up by today's standards. In addition to that, NSMB DS gets flack for being 'unoriginal' by today's standards when in actuality it literally brought back 2-D Mario to the modern era. Mario Bros Wii made multiplayer (wonky) fun and inventive and NSMB U had Luigi U which was one of the best level packs we've seen since NSMB 2 (Which I can admit feels like the most contrived game).
NSMB is a great series and I think everyone needs to boot up an old copy and remind themselves why they love Mario in the first place
Wait... Luigi U has different levels? I need to give them a try then.
I've always though NSMB was bad, dude, you can't remind me why I love it in the first place when I never did. I bought the DS one on release and thought it was boring. Yes, even back then. For me, SMB3 was the pinnacle of 2D Mario that they never surpassed (World is still good though).
@@ZeroKitsune I don't care about your opinion
Fun fact: in 5-Castle, there is a block that can net you a mini mushroom.
50:08 in defense of the change, this type of thing happens on Earth as well. For example: Go from Northern Arizona (say the town of Flagstaff) and you'll be in the Mountains and cold and snow; and go down I-17 towards Phoenix and all of sudden your in the Desert where its hot, dray and sunny. I'm sure places like that exist in Japan where you have Mountains.
4:12 it's the only block moving at a different speed too
Never played it, but i love that in the intro cutscene to NSMBU Mario reacts first (of course) and Luigi comically reacts last
NSMB DS also had the boo houses which were very cool levels
Phenomenal video, the pacing, humor, and delivery was perfect. I especially loved the coin part. Subscribed!
I think I just noticed an interesting detail
New super mario bros 2. (actually the 3rd game) introduces elements from Super mario bros 3
Meanwhile New super mario bros U (the 4th), introduces elements from Super mario world (the 4th game, if you exclude Lost Levels)
I really like how they followed the same pattern
I think it may be cause of my autism or something, but I CANNOT HANDLE THESE GAMES WHEN I WAS LITTLE cause I had to collect every single coin, break every block even though how tedious it was. And sometimes it’s not even possible!! (Yea. This didn’t get any easier for me with NSMB 2) And I would get so like emotionally affected over it that I couldn’t handle playing anymore💀
Sounds more like OCD to me.
"The guy from the baseball game" hit me so hard
I was big fan of that game and i remember petey piranha from there too
7:05 I honestly wonder if the minigames were supposed to be its own release but they just ended up adding them to mario 64/new super mario bros ds.
Small youtuber try not to make the most informative, entertaining, and detailed video ever known to man challenge (impossible)
They could easily make one of the best new super Mario Bros game by just changing up world themes, more creative level design, adding new power ups like the boomerang suit, the blue shell, the mega mushroom, ext. It would also be pretty cool to see a map that connects but also just doesn't randomly change from over world to dessert. And they need harder bosses ASAP. I don't see a problem in them keeping the koopalings but Only for the main castle. I hope they do the same thing Mario ds aimed for. Unique bosses, all that pizazz.
I bet someone else has already commented this, but the bowser heads in the bowser fight in new super mario bros 2 are made out of stone, like gargoyles, not metal
NSMB DS and Wii will always be special to me, probably poured over a thousand hours into each as a kid. But all of these games bring back childhood memories,
DS was the game that made me fall in love with games
Wii was the only thing I wanted for Christmas back in 2009
2 came out on my birthday and I remember my dad bringing me to GameStop to get it
and U was the sole reason why I got the Wii U, joke was on me I guess lol
IMO I would be extremely happy if they took the Luigi bros concept and combined it with the idea of NG+
Finish the easier levels as Mario, then unlock Luigi mode with remixed shorter levels
Heck maybe they could have extra fun with it and make the opening for Luigi continue directly after Mario's ending, with Mario winning but being bamboozled and captured
A couple of things in NSMB2 worth talking about were the Invincibility Leaf being added.
The second is the new level type unique to that game, the Rainbow 🌈 levels.
Frosted glacier is World 4 and sparkling waters is well free in new Super Mario Bros u
I don’t know who told you nsmb in ds was underrated especially when right after you said that you showed it sold 30 million copies
Mario's model in the first new super mario game is super detailed to be in a 2D DS game, like it!😃
NSMB2 has a special place in my heart as it was the first ever official mario game and game console game that I ever played. And it was one of the first games that I ever owned on my 3DS for my birthday back in 2013 at that time my only experience with mario was playing a bunch of mario based flash games both the good and the bad ones.
I think the series gets a bad rap. Was it kinda…. lazy of Nintendo? Yeah, 100%. But the levels are so well made that it’s hard to be mad at it.
I think the next game can have a 3D world like artstyle and have a twist on existing level theme. 9 tweaked worlds and 9 remixed world which have their original theme. A red desert and ice-covered snow world is a good example. The power up can be poison flower where you have to wait a while before defeating enemies and a cheese that turns mario into mouse mario which let mario walk on ceilings. They should have original bosses instead of boom boom in the tower levels like mega hammer Bros or king bob-omb. The castle having Koopalings is fine but they can have interesting attacking method once in a while. The world map can be more inspired by Mario world in certain worlds while keeping the format for the others. Would be nice to see more obscure and new emeries like shy guys and goloomba. There can be more moves to reward advanced players like roll and long jump. The score system should be hidden and the game should limit Mario to 25 lives. Coins also should reward you with power-ups when it reaches 100. I think that’s enough for a new 2D Mario.
awesome long video, I love watching stuff like this over a long time. Reminds me of the silokhawk video
NSMB:Wii was the first game in the series I played and when I got to the final fight, my 6 year old self legit wondered why there was so much time left on the clock.
And then mega Bowser appeared. Still one of, if not the coolest 2d Bowser fight.
I think Luigi U's difficulty is great as a bonus mode or DLC, but would be really bad as the primary game and turn a lot of people away. It's the kind of thing that's fun when optional but too much when the focus.
5:28 "It's insanely ridiculous how easy this fight is" *footage showing him getting hit by Bowser's fireball* Good job🤦😆
I think that the reason so many people have a problem with these series is because of how they were viewed versus what they were meant to be. I don't think these were supposed to be very innovative Mario games, I think they were just there to give each Nintendo system a 2D Mario game for the sake of just having one available on each system rather than to innovate across each entry.
Maybe this is how Nintendo got the idea of super Mario party 7:43